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070 - Mailbag Q & A Part 1
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Show notes are available at https://thediygoalie.com/pod070
This week we go through a handful of questions/topics brought up by goalies and goalie parents. We cover topics such as affiliate goalies at practice, how to structure your year for goalie development, how to stay focused when the puck is in the other end, and more!
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Rebranding the Podcast
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Welcome to the DIY Goalie Podcast, where hosts and goalie coaches Nathan Park and Connor Munday share their insights on how to become ah better goalie.
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Goalies, welcome back to another episode of the DIY Goalie podcast presented by True North Goaltending. And we are still kind of doing some of the rebrand stuff. So you guys may have noticed we dropped some new artwork on the podcast today, um or I guess this episode.
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um So, you know, trying to look somewhat a little bit more professional, even though we really aren't. But, you know, we try to fake it till we make it anyways.
Connor Munday's Return and Fatherhood Experience
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um Connor is ah back today ah after taking a little bit of a hiatus with the birth of our newest goalie coach who's kind of slacking a little bit, hasn't picked up any shifts yet. So I don't know.
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We'll see. We might have to cut her loose. But I'm sure Connor is very much both loving and hating his life in the last two weeks. So ah how are we doing so far, Mr. Dad?
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Oh, I am tired. ah i mean, like, you know, people tell you, you know like, ah prepare for the the minimal amount of sleep that you'll get. But yeah, I'm... ah i'm I'm very, very tired.
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um But no, it's been it's been fun. It's been good. i feel like my microphone is a little loud. I'm not entirely sure. Just a little bit. That's okay. That's what post-production is for.
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Yeah, exactly. oh yeah i've I've turned it down on my end here, so hopefully ah hopefully we're a little bit better. um Yeah, I mean, it's its it's been a roller coaster to say the least. A little bit of a complication at birth, but All in all, Emerson is here. She's happy. She's healthy. She's currently sleeping as I'm watching her on the baby monitor.
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um But yeah, no, I'm glad to be back, ready to get back into it here.
Excitement for Upcoming Goalie Camp
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i guess this week as of, as this episode goes out, we'll be day two and our week long goalie camp with t true North goaltending. So that'll be fun. If it already hasn't been already on, no check, check back with me in a few days.
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um Yeah, no, beyond that, we're all we're all good on ah on our front over here. It's been, like I said, it's been a roller coaster. It's been a learning curve. Thank you to everybody who have reached out on social media, on our pages, saying congratulations. really means a lot. And um yeah, just happy to be back.
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Perfect. Well, we can get back to chirping the heck out of Connor and making him feel bad. So that's
Goalie Development Plan Framework
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what I'm looking forward to this episode.
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So we'll we'll hop into it today. We're doing kind of a bit of a mailbag episode, um kind of put it out in a couple of the Facebook groups and Instagram. and put it out there just asking ah if anyone had any questions or topics they'd like discussed. and We also kind of took some comments from some previous posts and stuff like that.
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um So we're just going to kind of go through a couple of um comments that were thrown our way and we'll see how long each one takes. This might end up being another two-parter like our last one that we thought was going to be one part and was two but um stay tuned. I'm sure if you guys see the title called part one then you'll know exactly ah this the spoiler alert was there already so Um, yeah, I guess we'll hop right into it.
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ah So the first one, and is a little long cause this was an email from Brad who loves it when we, uh, tell each other how much we hate each other.
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So, and he included that in the email, but I'm kind of, I'm so, I'm so happy Brad's back. We miss you, Brad. Yeah. Yeah. um And I did take as much of the filler that I could that still made sense. So it is going to be a little bit long and there's a couple points that we'll go over.
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um But there's mostly just one kind of general broad point. um But he had said, what do you think the best framework is for a goalie's development plan over a calendar year?
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So off season, tryout prep, in season, spring, cetera. So for example, for a soon to be 12 year old goalie playing U13 AAA next year, here's what we're thinking.
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His team is going to supply one hour of goalie specific training every other week. I will video his games from behind the net and edit it down to five-ish minutes.
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We will watch the videos together and try to analyze it, but we'd also like to have a goalie coach do video review. Shameless plug, we do that. If you guys are looking for that, reach out.
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And then use the video to help plan a session with him on the weeks he doesn't have the goalie-specific training through the team. We also spend an hour on the ice together. We come up with a plan together. We share the ice with a group of players. We get blue line in and they get the rest, which helps keep the cost down off season. I think it's good to take at least a month where there's no hockey at all.
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He plays baseball. I think multi-sport is beneficial strength, mobility, endurance training camps. So that was kind of just like a list of off season stuff. um We're super on the fence about spring hockey, especially for goalies.
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I think the time and money might be ben better spent by just doing goalie specific training than playing on a spring team. But he seems to have a lot of fun playing spring hockey. So I'm torn on this one.
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He's not doing any mental performance or cognitive training right now, but I know he probably should be. So before I hop this over to you, yes, he should be.
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So, but do you have initial thoughts on that or do you want me to kind of dissect it a little bit? I know there is a lot in there, but sad yeah general framework.
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Yeah, there definitely was a lot in there, um I guess. So first off, let's tackle like kind
Importance of Off-Ice Training
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of a general year. like a general framework, I guess. So, okay. So start of the year to the end of the year. So, um,
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Yeah, I would say definitely the the off-ice portion of it, incredibly beneficial. um You know, keeping up with your fitness regime, whatever that may look like.
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um And then when it comes to on-ice... on ice um I've mentioned it in previous podcasts before podcast episodes before where I would with the junior teams that I would work with, I would spend the first month this year. So I'm focusing on just simple, um simple habits, for lack a better term.
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Skating, tracking, stick work, um you know, not going into too, too complicated or too, too, for lack of a better term.
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Yeah. Complicated. Advanced. Yeah. Thank you. Too, too advanced stuff. You know, again, like taking the, taking the month off doing other sports.
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Great. um depending when I guess you get back on to the ice. um Cause, cause you know, like as, as a goal or like you're filling it, you're feeling out the team, you're feeling out just kind of what's just kind of what's what.
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And then just, you know, it never, it never, it never, ever, ever hurts to go back to basics and do that for at least the first month. um Moving into about middle of the year,
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At that point, you should already be set in some kind of routine. um I would say i would be focusing the way that i did it when I was coaching would be um just we'd be tackling more so at that point, just kind of weaknesses, weaknesses.
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strengths um and then i talk i personally took it a step further it's like we're preparing for the next team that we're playing um whether that was a team that was from british columbia or a team that was just up the road um kind of spent that little bit of time as well it's like here's what we know about this team when we played them before So here are these drills that we're going to do to kind of counteract that so we can be better prepared for that.
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um Towards the end of the year, again, everything just kind of packs up together at that point. um at that you know At that point, you're not you're not reinventing the wheel or anything at at the end of the year. You're just kind of...
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um bringing everything together, going back to basics a little bit and preparing for playoffs. If your team is in playoffs or, uh, provincials or nationals or whatever, looks beyond playoffs.
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Um, and then yeah, end of the year, take a month off, you know, do, do whatever and advance and other things. Um, yeah, this, the, the, the spring hockey side of things,
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I've coached in it. I know people that have been in it and I know people that like it. I know some people that don't like it. I think for you, it's,
Spring Hockey: Pros and Cons
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you know, it's, it's a beneficial time to, you know, get away from hockey, go and play different sports. You know, I always played baseball when I was done playing throughout the year.
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Hand eye coordination still sucks for some reason. um But, you know, it, it, I guess at that point in time, it just, it depends on what is, what does your kid want to do?
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at that point in time, right? Yeah, those dollars probably would be better spent to private goalie coaching. But even then, there can be there can be too much of that at that point. It doesn't hurt to just take a month or a month and a half or whatever that may look like At that point in time, kids are still in school, so they can be focusing on their schoolwork at that point.
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um Go into other sports or just t or just take some time away from physical activity in general for you know a couple weeks and then gradually get back into it.
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Yeah. I'm a little on defense about the cognitive side of things when I, I mean, I guess you 13, cause they'd be what 11, 12, probably not a bad idea to start introducing that. I don't think I would personally get more into it until they're about 15 ish or so just me personally with the very limited knowledge that I have about it.
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Um, um, But yeah, I mean, like, I don't, it it sounds to me that Brad's got a pretty good handle on um just kind of what their year looks like as a whole.
00:11:27
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I just, it's, you know, as as adults in general, we talk about like a work-life balance, right? It's it's the same deal with with kids. There's got to be that, there's got to be that sport-life balance at the same time. If you overload your kids in sports or in hockey, then,
Balancing Sports and Life
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Then they're going be burnt out a little bit quicker. Jamie Phillips, if I recall correctly, that conversation, he talked about that um a little bit, kind of getting pushed too hard. And we've seen hockey families kind of go on about that or just, you know, they they push their kids to the brink of that they eventually hate the sport and by extension hate their parents.
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um But i mean, yeah, I mean, you know, like spend it like like taking a couple of weeks, you know, three, three, four weeks prior to the start of the season, being on ice, just getting a little bit of conditioning. And and then once you finally get on, once you get back on the ice more consistently, then that would be the time that I would start to um dive deep, deep dive a little bit more into just kind of the straight basics of things before running full speed.
00:12:29
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been a few weeks since I've been able to say this, but you're wrong. And at which point, Nathan? I'm getting there.
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and I disagree on the cognitive side of things. I think as early as you can get some of it going, especially like the visual stuff as well, like even just something simple like concentration grids um or some sort of like you know, multi object work with whether it's like multiple ball work or, you know, something like that. Just ah just because I think with how skilled the game is getting, um I think there's no kind of
00:13:12
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better time than now, I guess, to, uh, start kind of training stuff like that, especially as goalies, since it's so important being able to see things, being able to process things in front of us.
00:13:24
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Um, that was the only thing that I personally disagree on, but, uh, Other than that, no, I think overall you kind of hit the nail on the head. um Just on the spring hockey side of things, I do think there um would be benefits to doing something more along the lines of like the three on three um as opposed to full on spring.
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And. and i I don't know. The biggest problem I have with spring hockey nowadays is like it's like spring and summer hockey. Like when we were playing spring hockey was like couple weeks at the end of March and maybe all of April and then maybe creep into May a little bit. But you basically had June, July fully off and most of May.
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Now it's like these kids are playing until like early mid July for spring teams. And I get it like it's It's a cash grab like it's a good moneymaker for these programs.
00:14:23
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um It's the the perception is that more hockey is better. You're going to get better. But the problem is, is. you don't get a lot of those kind of athletic skills that you get from doing other things. So you could even play spring hockey as a player. You can go play ball hockey as a player, a goalie, go play baseball, soccer, whatever, or three on three. Cause in my opinion, then you're getting a lot of,
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quality ish game like reps, um, as opposed to, you know, spending a lot of money on spring hockey to go to these fancy tournaments that, you know, you just get peppered with shots. You don't get any practice. Like, um, I don't know.
00:15:06
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That's my viewpoint on it. Um, but yeah, all in all, sorry, go ahead. yeah No, still have a little bit more to go, so hop in. not you know i was i mean like I think you're kind of already going that way. it like like The thing with spring hockey, it's just...
00:15:24
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area it's It's portrayed as... You know, this ah second winter season, you know, like you were saying, you play more hockey, you get better.
00:15:35
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Not always the case. none No scouts or no high-profile people in hockey, for lack of better term. Aside from the people that are running these programs are going to say that, yeah, come play.
00:15:50
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Yeah, if if you stay with me, I'm going to sign you. When I go to the... WHL, you're going to come with me or whatever, right? it's just it's it's It's extra hockey that's there. It's not meant for development.
00:16:03
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it's just it's it's ah it's It's just an ability to play the game a little bit longer than you normally would throughout the winter season. There's no... I would say, and I'm going to maybe have a target on my back after this, ah there is no real benefit to playing spring hockey other than just for the sake of playing spring hockey, hockey in spring.
00:16:29
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Yeah. Well, and that's the thing. If, if you guys find it fun, you're not sick of hockey, like your kid's not burnt out. Great. Um, if you have the money, great. Like that there's nothing necessarily wrong with it, but the other side of things too, especially for the goalie side is there's usually not any sort of development, um,
00:16:47
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um You might get a program that offers like two goalie sessions over the course of the spring, but there's really not even any practice time, which might not necessarily be a bad thing for goalies just because a lot of practices aren't run very well for goalies.
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um But even still, it's it's one of those I think there is better time and money spent, um but it's not necessarily a bad thing. Like don't hear what we're not saying, I guess. But, so you know, just...
00:17:15
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Just think about it. um Burnout's a real thing and not enjoying the games, a real thing. Having that proper balance ah is important.
00:17:27
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um And yeah, just that general framework for the course of the season. I do think incorporating video work is is is a great idea. um i do think getting the extra beneficial ah goalie work is a good idea, whether it's through your organization or on the private side of things.
00:17:46
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And then in the off season, you need to make sure if you guys want to take this seriously, you guys need to make sure you're doing the right things in the off season.
Off-Season Strength and Flexibility
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and That, like we talked about, most likely means stepping away from the rank.
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That means actually working on your strength and flexibility, not just the flexibility, but the strength and especially strength in your full range of motion. And that's where a lot of goalies struggle or don't do. And that's when they get hurt, right? Because You're not blowing a groin because you're not flexible enough. It's because your muscles aren't strong enough at that point of flexibility. Right. So you need to be working on both the visual and cognitive stuff. I think important, but also just doing this stuff to take care of you. Right. Like the eating properly, the hydrating properly, sleeping properly, all of that stuff like summer vacation for kids is
00:18:43
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you know Both of us were there, I'm pretty sure i can speak for you, but staying up till 2 a.m. m playing Call of Duty or NHL 25 or 26 now or whatever, then sleeping the next day until 12 then, you know, like...
00:18:58
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getting up and eating three bowls of cereal is your meals throughout the day until your parents get home or whatever, right? Like that's, you know, if, if you're trying to take it seriously, make sure you're taking care of yourself. Um, that's a big thing for, for kind of the off season stuff, uh, multi-sports huge.
00:19:16
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Um, and then I would say, August is kind of when you want to start getting back into it. So with some private training or some camps or some shinies or whatever the case is, then you can kind of ramp yourself up for tryouts. If your tryouts are in the fall, if your team's already set, great. Then you can hit the ground running when you start exhibition games and all that stuff. So, um and then, yeah, you kind of covered...
00:19:42
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yeah i was oh No, I was just going to say, i kind of forgot about the other stuff that Brad was talking about in there. I got so hyped up on, like, here's what you do throughout the year. um Yeah, so I i got the offseason covered. You got the inseason covered. Yeah, no, there you go.
00:19:55
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I mean, you know, if if if you follow just some of these hockey accounts or like some of these and NHL player accounts, you know, like we saw Leon Dreisaitl and Connor McDavid get pumped in a beer league game.
00:20:10
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We, um, Casimir Casca, so he just posted on his channel, not that long ago, that three ice tournament, that three on three ice tournament that happened in Florida, not that long ago.
00:20:21
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Um, you know, so bits and pieces, you know, like that, of being on the ice over the course of the off season, it's never really a bad thing. just as long as you're not on the ice for lack of a better term, 24 seven throughout the, ah throughout the off season.
00:20:36
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And then, yeah, Nathan's right as well. August is really when things got to start amping up again. Cause September's two, three, three weeks away at this point. Yeah. Three weeks away.
00:20:47
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ah but So, yeah, so it's it's it's it's at that point in time now where it's like, yeah, no, things things have to start to have to start getting moving again. And then, yeah, the the video component about it is is huge.
00:21:00
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um Hit us up. surenesscoattening and com um And yeah, no, and Nathan nathan so Nathan's already covered all that. Yeah. So that was one of our items. So this is probably going to turn into a two-parter.
00:21:17
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So moving on to the next one. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we'll throw it around. We hate you, Brad.
00:21:25
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Just kidding. ah No, we love you, Brad. um So the next one comes from YouTube from Mr. Gammon 3YT. And it's crazy that taken us till episode 70 to shout him out because he's probably the one guy keeping the algorithm going for us with the comments that he makes. So yeah.
00:21:47
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Shout out to you for that. um I will apologize. Sometimes I kind of don't know how to answer some of the stuff you yeah throw our way or you talk about WHL goalies that I just don't, unfortunately, right now have the time to watch. But yeah.
00:22:05
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The one that I want to touch on is he was bringing up the thought of having extra goalies at practice from affiliate teams.
00:22:17
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And the thought process behind that is to alleviate the um the stress, I guess, on the goalies ah in practice. If there's three or four of them, there's time to take breaks. They're not getting peppered with the, you know,
00:22:33
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general flow drills that are shot shot shot um and also for and kind of the experience for the affiliates coming up to practice with the team above them as well as a chance for the coaches from the team above to kind of see what the affiliate goalies look like and i know he had mentioned that this was something that uh Brian Decord talks lots about and I do need to read more of his stuff um because I know he's got a lot of good stuff.
00:23:05
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um But so Yeah, i I do definitely see the benefit for it. I do also see how that could turn into a logistical nightmare sometimes, depending on situations of organizations and all that stuff.
00:23:21
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um I do think it's probably something you don't want to do all the time for every practice, especially if you have a more systems focused practice where the goalies are not really doing much to begin with. um But I do think that there is ah benefit to having a little bit of extra competition.
00:23:43
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um you know, like having that kind of push. Like I think a lot of times we forget when we are set on our team and kind of in our team's own little world that there are people out there that are pushing for our spot for next season and seasons beyond.
00:23:58
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So I think it's good to have that little reminder that there is competition there. um And then I do think for depending on this practice structure, yeah there is a bit of benefit to Having some downtime, especially if it is a flow drill heavy practice.
00:24:16
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And also if you do have somebody who is somewhat knowledgeable in goaltending, having that third or fourth goalie where you have a break outside of the net.
00:24:27
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can allow that person to come up to you and actually give you feedback in the middle of practice. Um, so I do think that there is benefits to that. I do think it's good to experience a level up, um, for a little bit. And, um, you know, if you were to do that occasionally, i think that'd be kind of the happy medium where it's not every practice, but um you know, every now and then. And i do think it's good from an organization standpoint too, to kind of try and, and get that exposure throughout your entire organization to see the higher levels and to have coaches kind of get a sense of, of where their potential affiliates are. Cause that happens all the time where a goalie in tier two gets hurt. So the tier three goalie moves up and now the tier four goalie is moving up to tier three to help. Right. Cause
00:25:21
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you know, tier two and three only have one goalie, but tier four has two or something like that. Um, so that happens all the time. I've affiliated up a few times in my minor hockey career. So, um,
00:25:34
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I do think there's benefits to it and probably something that organizations should look more into if they're looking to have a, you know, holistic goalie development program and try and actually build their goalie skill kind of throughout their whole organization.
00:25:56
Speaker
Yeah. um Yeah, I get I get where they're coming from on that. um I know that there are some goalies that aren't a fan of that.
00:26:09
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ah Yeah. When I coached when I coached juniors, we had like we would bring in goalies every once in a while like for potential to be on the team or just as an option. um or just as an affiliate rather. And there's there was definitely some turmoil that happened with that.
00:26:27
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um yeah they're like interject quick though that is where communication comes into play too right yes and and the and the coach that i worked with at that point in time just there was none yeah and i also think too if this is like an organizational thing then it just kind of is the norm and it doesn't really rustle as many feathers but sorry is that no no fair enough ah Thank you. um Yeah, it's yeah. No, there's definite there's definitely a benefit to it.
00:27:02
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um I know that there is also potential for some goalies not to like that. um From a coach's standpoint, think.
00:27:15
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I love and I hate it. I loved it, especially when I did get time with the goalies because I could just send the affiliate down the other end. I didn't really have to worry about that a whole lot because I'm not going to be seeing them so often.
00:27:26
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i it It allowed me an opportunity to to at least have a look and say, yeah, it's potential for next season or potential for now. um But yeah, otherwise, like, yeah, like if if if I had the chance to run with the goalies out of one end, it's like, yeah, affiliate guy, you're going down the other end. See you later, basically, because I got to I have a job to do with the with the other two guys that I'm seeing consistently throughout the season.
00:27:48
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um But yeah, like there's especially from a minor hockey standpoint. Yeah, there's definitely some logistics that come with that. I can't imagine that there's too many hurdles that you have to jump through with that.
00:27:59
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but um it'd be mostly scheduling oh yeah that'd be the big thing yeah yeah exactly yeah no no there no there's definitely some legitimacy to that and i think uh something that maybe more organizations should be looking into but i mean goaltending obviously being an underrated position you know nobody really thinks about that about 10 minutes to practice time Yeah, I would say if you're doing two practices a week, say so we'll just round up nicely and say eight practices a month, I would say you could maybe do that twice, maybe once, once to twice in the month, I think would maybe be a good thing.
00:28:42
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um And having that good balance, I think would would be good um without obviously running running over or taking over the practice from, uh, from the other goalies.
00:28:55
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um do you want to read the next one? Do you have the list or do you want me to just keep going? Did you send me it? I don't know if you send me it. Okay. I think I emailed it to you, but that's okay. I'll just keep going. I have it here.
00:29:07
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um So this one's from an anonymous member on Facebook.
Private vs. Semi-Private Training
00:29:12
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um When is private one-on-one training advisable? We have been doing small semi-private for a few years now. My son is first year U13 and wants to shoot to make AAA next year.
00:29:25
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Also, what should they be doing off the ice? So we kind of touched on the stuff off the ice in the previous point that Brad had. Um, but what are your thoughts on when you think private one-on-ones are good as opposed to like semi-privates and so on and so forth?
00:29:47
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Um, I mean, selfishly sign with us and, uh, you know, we'll get you, we'll get you in once a week. Um, um, mean yeah, I mean, private, if if it's an option to you,
00:30:01
Speaker
I don't say i wouldn't say that it's a bad option. Definitely. I mean, we've talked about in other episodes as well, more tools in the toolbox, the better more. And it doesn't necessarily hurt to have different voices. Now, when it comes to private one-on-one training, you don't want to have a coach that's going to completely undo the work of maybe say one of your other coaches or just that's not going to listen to your goalie.
00:30:26
Speaker
Um, so there is kind of that caveat to it but i don't i don't necessarily think it's as it's a bad option if you have the ability to do so um yeah and then in terms of what they should be doing off the ice rewind the episode back to when we were talking about better on brad's point um
00:30:50
Speaker
I mean, i it's it's it's something that I didn't have the private one-on-one training when I was playing. The coaching that I had was the the seven... Oh, shoot. What's the...
00:31:01
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oh shoot what's the the August week camp that goalie camps would do every year that we're doing as of this week. And when they havele camp yeah the summer camp, yeah, that's what i was trying to say. I was trying to say seven for some reason. i was weird.
00:31:18
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um And get some sleep. Thank you.
00:31:23
Speaker
um and then like and then when like when i was when i went to uh when i went to school here in the edmonton area place place named vimy ridge academy you know i got to work with guys like dustin schwartz curtis muka lio master to name a few um travis rollheiser um you know and so that was that was kind of that was kind of the training that i did throughout the year there wasn't at that point in time aside from gavin may he rest in peace uh the the one-on-one training that that there was that that there is now and in in today's climate when it came to it so um i don't like again it's it's it's that sport life balance too at the same time you don't want to be overloading your goaltender you know and sending them to every different one-on-one training camp throughout the year it's just
00:32:09
Speaker
it you have your You'll have your regular coach. i mean like like like You see it in the NHL too sometimes. Teams will have their regular and NHL goalie coach and then sometimes these goalies will go off to a different goalie coach um should their schedule permit it. Yeah.
00:32:24
Speaker
we know here in Edmonton, Dustin Schwartz, unfortunately got fired. um You know, he was, he got ridiculed about it for a while. Cause there was, there was myth. I don't think it was actually true about Mike Smith hiring his own guy um throughout the year, whether that was true or not, doesn't, doesn't necessarily matter. Cause again, more, no more, it doesn't hurt to have another voice in your corner and especially more tool tools on toolbox better.
00:32:48
Speaker
Yeah. um I actually, i don't hate the semi privates. Um, For three reasons. First off, we kind of touched on it before, but the competition aspect, like having another goalie there almost kind of elevates you a little bit. Like, you know, especially if you do like those little battle games that we like to do at the end and you put stuff on the line.
00:33:11
Speaker
Um, I think having that compete in that battle there kind of just in the semi-private session is good. Usually also kind of lowers the cost a little bit.
00:33:22
Speaker
Um, the semi-private's usually cheaper per goalie than, than a full on private. And then the other thing too, um, it's good for breaks. Like, I mean, us personally, when we do a private at our facility, we have a lot of discussions. So, um,
00:33:41
Speaker
there's like, it's not too jarring on the goalies for the most part, but, uh, you know, if you do have a, so a goalie coach, that's running a session, that's just constantly like, go, go, go, go. go That can, you know, be pretty taxing.
00:33:57
Speaker
And then the other thing too, is it, I think the most beneficial part of a semi-private is being able to watch somebody else go through the same thing that you're doing.
00:34:10
Speaker
And, I'm going to take this as a point that I want you guys to take home. If you are in a camp or in a tryout or a semi-private or any sort of situation where you are not in the net the whole time and there is an opportunity that somebody else is in the net doing the same thing you are, take the opportunity to learn and watch.
00:34:36
Speaker
And I think, Every goalie coach out there can, uh, S you know, stand behind this, but it's so frustrating to us to say the same thing to three different goalies in a, in a three goalie session because they weren't listening or,
00:34:53
Speaker
you know, weren't really paying attention when you were talking to the other goalie, right? Use the feedback for the other goalies to make mental notes, but also like watch, like watch what the other goalie doing and say, oh, they're doing that really well. That's working for them. Maybe I can try that.
00:35:10
Speaker
Or, oh, they made a mistake here and I don't want to make that same mistake. And you can also see it too. Like we talk about watching hockey and that situational awareness and stuff like that.
00:35:22
Speaker
These are situations that will help with that too. If you can be an outsider with a different perspective, watching somebody else do it, it's almost just as beneficial as when you're in there doing it and getting feedback. So use that properly and actually take that seriously. Like, don't just like, yes, you can grab a water break and kind of relax a little bit, but You still want to have your brain engaged, especially since ice time and goalie development is so limited. Take advantage of it.
00:35:54
Speaker
You can still learn when you're not in the net. Um, yeah, that means I kind of, sorry, I kind of missed out on the, the semi-private part again, I get so hyper-focused on one thing. Well, um, and, but that's good because i was just going to kind of circle back because their initial question was when is private one-on-one training advisable?
00:36:16
Speaker
So I would say if it's available to you and you can afford it Great goal. But I do think there is merit in mixing it up between small group sessions as well as one on one sessions um just to kind of get those different looks and stuff like that. But you could argue that it's not as beneficial for the younger kids. um You're probably, you know, once you hit U13 is when I think it would start to like really make a big difference to start having the one on one training.
00:36:50
Speaker
Um, but again, it depends on where you're at. Like you could argue with the elite level streams or whatever that's, uh, that you could do that earlier. But I think as long as you're getting some goalie development, regardless of how it comes, it's not a bad thing.
00:37:05
Speaker
And I do think if it's available to you, mixing the one-on-one with the semi-privates is also a good thing too. Yeah, I got I got nothing else on that.
00:37:16
Speaker
All right. So next point from Hockey Mama two four six. Love the username, by the way. Yeah, I think that was an anonymous on Facebook, too. But I think now you can like make a little name or whatever.
00:37:33
Speaker
But anyways, um they said would love to know tips and tricks goalies can use to stay engaged when play is largely out of their zone.
Staying Engaged as a Goalie
00:37:44
Speaker
can i Can I jump in on this one? Because I i got a couple. um Go for it. There was an Ingle Radio podcast episode a while ago featuring, I think it was Corrine Schroeder from PWHL New York Sirens.
00:38:00
Speaker
And she was saying that when the plays when the play was out of their zone, she would... quote unquote commentate the game or kind of commentate what was happening down the other end which I which I thought was kind of really cool um because you know she's she was keeping herself engaged she was in a in a sense kind of analyzing and kind of talking about what's happening in the other end of the ice um um i would also say with that if you don't want to commentate or be the crazy person talking to yourself throughout the game um it doesn't hurt or just kind of try and um
00:38:42
Speaker
for lack of it a better pro read the game is how i'm going to call it. um You know, try to anticipate where's X1, where's X2, where's X3? Where do you think that pass is going to go? How are, how is your team setting up in the offensive zone? How are they setting up in the defensive zone?
00:38:59
Speaker
Being able to understand and kind of learn systems that way from the, basically the best seat in the house doesn't isn't necessarily a bad thing you know the more you can flex your hockey iq if you will um the better which uh which i would say is is is the biggest thing so for me i would say commentate the game be a be a play-by-play broadcaster Or if you don't want to do that, um begin to or start to learn and understand just kind of how how teams are are, how the players are setting up when it comes to being in the offensive zone. Because we you we as goalies, when the play is in our zone, we're focused on one thing and and it's that little black rubber thing that's on the ice.
00:39:42
Speaker
um But when you pay attention to it at the other end, i so take that opportunity to to find, okay, where's the high guy? where who are Who are the threats ah to to that goalie in the zone? Where's the bumper? you know what what are What are they setting up? Is it box plus one? Or is the defense setting up you know the diamond pla diamond plus one or whatever, right? The the umbrella or whatever systems there are.
00:40:08
Speaker
um You know, ah being able to, again, understand and um flex the hockey IQ, I don't think is necessarily a bad thing.
00:40:19
Speaker
Yeah, um that's. ah Yeah, I think being able to. i don't know, like take a bit of a break.
00:40:31
Speaker
a little bit like if you are you know, like when the pucks in your zone, we're obviously like constantly focused on the puck where, you know, scanning for threats all the time as goalies. If we're talking about a 60 minute game, you're you're technically on the ice and supposed to be focused for the entire 60 minutes. And then there's also like whistles and face offs and stuff like that.
00:40:56
Speaker
So. so there There is, i think, some merit in taking that time to almost kind of reset yourself a little bit like it.
00:41:08
Speaker
It's a mentally taxing position. And this kind of comes from a conversation that I had with one of our goalies who is kind of, um you know, using us for mentorship for this upcoming season. um Again, shameless plug, you can do it yourself, too, if you want to head to TrueNorthGoaltending.com.
00:41:29
Speaker
But he was talking to me because he goes and sees um Brad Wall, who we had on one of the very first episodes, like maybe like episode four or something way back at the start.
00:41:42
Speaker
um And he was talking about... some during the game stuff that they've they've been working on together um because he wanted to really improve his mental game this year.
00:41:57
Speaker
And one of the things that they kind of came up with was like in terms of focus, like when the pucks in the other end, 50 percent focus. Then when it's coming like and kind of down on the rush about 75% as, yeah and as soon as it crosses that red line, then we're up to a hundred percent focus. Yeah, I need some sleep too.
00:42:21
Speaker
Take the words right out of my mouth. Yeah. um But and i I thought that was actually interesting. That's nothing that I've ever really thought of before or really come across before. But ah thinking about just how much like mental energy and output that we put in during a game, I i do think that it's OK to maybe you know, take that time to have a bit of a reset. Like if you have a breathing routine or whatever, you can maybe focus on that for a little bit or, um you know, go through whatever your kind of mantra or reset routine is um stuff like that. So i do think there is a little bit of merit to that.
00:43:04
Speaker
um But we also have to make sure i think to have some sort of trigger, right? to be able to get back into proper mode. So if like,
00:43:19
Speaker
we're not going to lie and say that all of us are a hundred percent focused for a hundred percent of the game. Like that's obviously not true. So if you can almost have some sort of trigger for yourself to get back into it. So for example, and kind of making a trigger. Like if the puck crosses the opposing player or opposing teams, blue line, um, that that's kind of you know, your trigger, like you can almost like tell yourself like blue line and then go and get ready. And, uh, then you're,
00:43:48
Speaker
ready to go and um that's kind of part of helping you to stay engaged um when the puck's coming back onto you find what works for you whether it the trigger whether it is like commentary whether it is um you know whatever like some sort of mantra or saying well the puck's in the other end um you know doing quick look arounds or something like that watching the play develop on the other end um Anything like that, it's going to end up being personal and kind of what works for you as the goalie. And, you know, um best best thing is, is just to make sure that you are fully engaged once the play is coming back towards you.
00:44:35
Speaker
Um, and it's okay to take a little bit of a breather, a little bit of a kind of, you know, step down on the mental focus when, uh, when the play is in the other end, just make sure obviously we're not caught sleeping.
00:44:47
Speaker
Um, but, uh, yeah, find what works for you. Anything that can kind of help you as best you can to stay engaged and make sure that you are ready to go. Once that puck starts making it back, making its way back to your end.
00:45:01
Speaker
Um, that's, that's kind of the biggest thing that we want, uh, want to see. Um, and Connor, uh, had to go and deal with dad duties. Um, but, uh, we're, we're coming up on 45 minutes anyways. So what we'll probably do is we'll save the last, uh,
00:45:19
Speaker
um four or five yeah five that we have here for next time uh we'll kind of end it there um but as always guys thanks for tuning in um we do have our our camp coming up uh next week so i guess once this draws it'll be or drops this will be uh the second day of the camp so i'm hoping once the camp is done and i'm kind of done all of that stuff i can Button up the last few things i have to do on the new website and we can officially move everything over to True North Goaltending.
00:45:51
Speaker
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00:46:12
Speaker
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00:46:25
Speaker
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00:47:08
Speaker
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00:47:30
Speaker
As always, guys, thanks for tuning in. We appreciate it. If you've made it this far on episode 70, You guys take care, make some saves goalies.