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Inspire Club Ep #39 - Tony Martignetti
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In this episode of the Inspire Club Podcast, host Matt Manners speaks with Tony Martignetti — leadership coach, bestselling author and Chief Inspiration Officer at Inspired Purpose Partners. Tony shares the story of a leader whose humanity shaped his career, the moment that made him walk out of corporate life and his mission to help others “shine their light.” A powerful conversation about purpose, authenticity and creating a leadership imprint that lasts long after you leave the room
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Introduction to the Inspire Club Podcast
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Hello, and welcome to the latest episode of the Inspire Club podcast. I'm your host, Matt Manners, founder of the Inspiring Workplaces Group. And as always, let's get straight into it and introduce this week's guest.
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Today,
Tony Martinetti's Journey from Finance to Coaching
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we're joined by Tony Martinetti, leadership coach coach, bestselling author and chief inspiration officer, great title, at Inspired Purpose Partners, also a great name for an organization, even if I do say so myself.
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With over 25 years of experience in finance and strategy within the life sciences sector, Tony's transitioned to coaching to help leaders navigate change and unlock their true potential.
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He's the host of the virtual Campfire podcast and author of the Climbing the Right Mountain and Campfire Lessons for Leaders, where he shares insights on authentic leadership and personal growth. Tony's mission is
Role as Independent Judge for Inspiring Workplaces Awards
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to guide individuals to lead with purpose, clarity and connection.
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incredible purpose to have. um and welcome to the podcast, Tony, how are you? I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me. I'm looking forward to our conversation today.
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And I must say thank you for being one of our esteemed independent judges in North America for the Inspiring Workplaces Awards. So ah very grateful.
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Impossible to have the awards without people like yourself giving up your time. So very, very grateful to you. And I'm extending that on behalf of all the entrants too. So thank you.
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Wonderful. So let's get straight into it. As people know, if you've been listening for a while, and if you don't, then you're about to find out. The first question for the Inspire Club podcast is the most important one.
Inspirational Leadership of Henry Tamir at Genzyme
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And it's asking you, Tony, to share a story about someone who's inspired you at work along the way and why. I love this question. And, you know, I'm trying to find a story that I want to share that is been a different one because I share a lot of the the about one particular person who comes to mind.
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um And here it is. So i I worked with a gentleman. His name is Henry Tamir. Henry was a ah leader of an organization I worked for called Genzyme.
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And I worked there for a number of years. I was there for about eight years. And it was a transformational part of my journey. Um, because it was, you know, earlier days I was, you know, up and coming manager.
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um and what was interesting about Henry is that he was a CEO of the company and, um he was Dutch came from, you know, good stock, uh, coming from Europe and,
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ah The great thing about him was that he had this real um sense of vision for the future and a vision for impact, but also the ability to connect on a very personal level.
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He'd come down to people's offices and have conversations with you about things that are important to you. And yet he's running this big organization of 10,000 plus people global.
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um So his vision was about, you know, making an impact on patients and always saying, put it in the patients first. You know, what's important to the patients? That was always at the center of everything that he did.
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He's passed away a few years back, unfortunately, but he was he left such an imprint on so many people.
Importance of Human Connection in Leadership
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And now many of the people he led have become CEOs and leaders of organizations throughout the biotech and life sciences industries um and definitely had an impact on me.
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Well, thank you, Henry, for having an impact on you, Tony. And um um what a testament tespience and to him that so many people have gone on to succeed and do so well, too. um It's incredible how many stories we've heard that come back to that human connection.
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Those are the, they're the people that have truly inspired others, um taking that moment to check in with somebody on ah on a one-to-one human level. um And
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how fresh it always seems to be in your mind I can see looking at you when you're telling that story, it seemed very, very fresh, the memory of of Henry and that moment years ago. and and I suppose it's the first time I've actually asked this in in a follow-up to the story, but 10,000 people, obviously, even despite how henry how good Henry was, no doubt, to do that with 10,000 people is impossible.
Middle Management's Role in Engagement
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Does that just mean it's so so vital and this is the area that always seems to her be a place people struggle with. We have to get that management level right because there they can be the Henry's for teams to engage with people, to to drive people forward, to give those moments that encourage on a human level to inspire people.
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And seemingly at all it stop it's that piece we can't get right.
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Well, i love that you're tapping into this because there's there's two things I'll say about that. Number one it's the small moments. It's not like you have to spend every waking moment with everyone. Yeah, that's impossible.
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um But it's when you're traveling through town, you know, making sure that you're stopping in you know because we're you know as a global organization, making sure that you are getting out and seeing people and making sure that your presence is known.
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um That you're not just staying in the ivory tower and, you know, speaking from um some perch, but also making sure that there's a ripple effect, that you are making sure that through your um example as a leader, you're showing other people how to show up as yeah well. Yeah.
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And so that it's not just about you alone, it's also how you're creating a model for other people. um I said the word imprint earlier, which I think is something that is how we should be thinking about it, a leadership imprint.
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How do we create an imprint on other people that then becomes something that is almost stays with them long term? Fantastic. I think we're probably going to pick up on this a bit more, but for now, thank you so much to Henry for inspiring you. um Something we've added to the podcast, a negative experience story that you've encountered along the way that's become a force for good.
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You know, it's been a driver to go, not that way. Yes. Okay. Well, this is the the the moment that made me leave the corporate world and into this into the world that I'm in now.
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um
Leaving Corporate for Personal Values
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And ah I'll talk about the lead up moment, not necessarily just the moment that I left. um I was working at a company. It was my last corporate role. And I noticed something about the leaders there, the CEO and other people who I was working with, that they didn't really care about people.
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They cared about the bottom line. And it was more about treating them like cogs in the wheel of getting things done. know, I heard comments batted around where like, oh, you know, who cares if they leave?
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We'll just replace them. There's plenty of people out there we can, you know, we can replace them with. And we're in an industry that saves lives, right? So here we're talking about life sciences and I'm hearing these comments about treating people like disposable assets.
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Yeah. And that really hurt me because to me personally, I was like, well, Yeah, if I wasn't here, you know, is this something you would say to me say about me, that I'm disposable, that any one of us are disposable?
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and That's not inspiring. And for the people who are every day, you know, spending their their lives trying to save lives, that is not what we want to be doing. We don't want to be seeing ourselves as just something that can be tossed out like yesterday's, you know, um old garbage, right?
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Yeah, a number on a spreadsheet. Yeah. And I just think i think that, you know not to be so defensive and you know so offensive with my language, but I think that's how it felt. felt very offensive.
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And that led up to a moment where i was sitting in a boardroom looking at everyone and in this particular company and saying, gosh, everyone here is like checked out. There's an argument going on between two ceos two C-suite members.
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And I decided at that moment that I had enough. I was like, well, I'm going to leave this room to change the room. So I got up and left. And that was the start of my journey into the world of making a difference in leaders to inspire change in how we show up.
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And I've got a few questions, but I'm going to follow straight into what, so what's your why? What what gets you out of bed in the morning? Yeah, I
Mission to Discover Unique Brilliance
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love that you you asked that question. um I'm going to just be very blunt about this. It's a sense of that everyone's walking around not shining their light. And I know that sounds very hippy-dippy, but I'll just be honest.
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you know I want a lot more people to embrace their true brilliance and to bring that to the surface so we can benefit. Not just they can benefit, but we can benefit from all that they have to share.
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their unique brilliance. there you know We want to make sure that people bring that brilliance to the surface and shine it on everyone else. And so that's what I'm doing every day is trying to unearth our unique brilliance in the world so that we can show up every day feeling connected to what's most meaningful to us.
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What a fantastic ah reason to get out of bed in the morning. um And without giving away everything you do how do you go about unearthing that brilliance in us. I mean, I'm keen to know more.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, part of it is really um getting people to to go back and look at their journey to getting to where they are now. What got them to this moment that they're in?
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and And so that is you know a journey of unearthing you know what are the moments that got them into the work that they're doing? What were the things that got them excited in um ah in the early days of their their life? Sometimes the secret lies in you you know the the childhood memories of you know who we were and the things that frustrated us.
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And understanding those things, the story helps us to ignite the spark of who we are. And um the thing that I've really noticed over the past few years is that it's also about integrating those different identities that we used to have into who we are now.
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As an example, I was an artist as a child, and I always have secretly been an artist, but I never really saw the value in that. I've thought, hey, I'm the analytical type. I need to be the person who knows the numbers.
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And so therefore i did that. I was you know playing that role, but I never felt quite complete until I started to see that this identity that I was holding back on was the superpower I needed to bring into the room.
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And so now that's what I help other people see is there's a sense of like, what is an identity that I've held back or have held in the shadows that needs to be brought into the room.
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I mean, that that must and unburdening yourself with without or freeing up your your true self or a past identity must be very liberating and and add so much to that person's um capabilities at work, I can imagine.
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Absolutely. um And, you know, when you think about it, it's not just about the person who who benefits from that. It's everyone around them. know, when someone feels lit up, um you know, like I said, there's a sense of everyone around you gets the benefit.
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yeah They see, you know, the strengths come come out and you start to see a person who's you know, feeling engaged and connected and, and wants to do more because of the fact that they feel like a sense of, oh, wow, like this is what I do more, uh, most skillfully. And this is how I can do it.
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And on the flip side, i mean, it's painful to be in a place where you're not, you can't remember who you are or what you loved. And you're in that kind of negative cycle. Um, personally, I, I've found myself now,
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And long may it continue. I haven't felt like this for 10 years since I first started Inspiring Workplaces. I've been doing a lot of work, like the stuff you're kind of talking about. And it it's liberating um and and it's energizing. And and i like to think that that's helping the people around me, like you like you say. And that's one of the main drivers for me to do that work.
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um But yeah, I think there's equal strengths, like Getting rid of the negative, I guess, is is such a positive. Yeah. but I can't explain it properly.
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Yeah. And may I just, I'll just add a little bit more of a dimension here is that, you know often people say, well, but what if the environment around you doesn't really support that? um Well, that's that's something that is important to recognize is there's an inside job and then there's outside job.
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um When you start to become more connected internally and you start to work with your environment and say, OK, does my environment support who I'm becoming, who I am?
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And how can I make shifts to connect with others in this way? If they're not supportive, then you start to say, well, maybe this is not the right environment for me. yeah um And that takes a lot of courage.
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does But the awareness is the first step, becoming aware to say, wow, maybe this is not the place where I'm best supported.
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So going back to part two thinking, Not being valued, not being seen as a person, um just a number on a spreadsheet. and And I can relate to that. I worked in a global company in Sydney. When it came around to my review, was down to somebody in New York looking at an Excel spreadsheet to determine whether I got a pay rise and a promotion, which I found incredibly distant and and and a cop-out, to be honest with you. So it wasn't long before I left that organization, even though my visa depended on it.
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I felt so strongly that I don't feel valued here. So I'm going to risk it all and try and find another job in Sydney. And and I did. madam well But and I prefaced the next statement slash question with the fact I like AI.
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um I think there are benefits to it, ah but I am absolutely petrified now at the pace of change without any seeming seeming thought by government or business leaders at the destination we're hurtling towards. And I'm not going to go to the full end of the world destination.
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i'm I'm going to talk at the one that I think we're already, were at a station on the way there where people over profits is now a very simple binary choice that organizations are making, um where grad level is almost evaporating in some places because they know AI can fill that entry entry entry level role.
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And that is literally what CEOs, CFOs looking at people over profits. And with then the excuse I'm starting to see on LinkedIn and I'm pushing back on LinkedIn now on this.
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Well, that's, they're the boring jobs. They're the mundane tasks that'll free people up. That's somebody's career might be somebody's passion, somebody's paycheck. So it's starting to bother me, um, how we're framing.
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the positives of AI at the expense of people, um and which accelerates your negative, um you just you discussed, I think. And I wondered if you had any thoughts around that.
AI as a Tool for Human Augmentation
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It's a very big topic, but I feel like we are there.
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Yeah, well, well i mean I'll comment on it. And I think there's, you know I don't have a solution. I wish I did. no. I think, you know as you said, we're just starting to really come to the you know to a realization we need to do something more um collectively to to think about how we're looking at this.
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And don't think any one government or any one group can can um can mandate or change the way we're looking at this. It has to be a collective conversation. Agreed.
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So I think it's a big thing. I think the starting point is to say, you know, how do we um use this as a, you know, we see it as a mirror of who we are. You know, the the AI is being crafted in a way that is, it's mirroring our own sense of of what the world looks like.
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And so if we want an AI to help us, It shouldn't replace us. It should be a way to um augment what we're doing, but it shouldn't replace jobs entirely.
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yeah So how do we find ways to um leverage our strengths in a way that helps AI see the value of who we are? I mean, helps us use AI as an enhancer of our abilities, not a replacer of our abilities.
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I think that's a brilliant commentary on it and much much more eloquently put than I i have done so. um And to add to that, I saw another post from a big company, from their CEO, and it was commented on by a company called Unmind that people might know of, where it was talking about ai helping us work faster, be more productive.
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And actually, to your point, rather than replacing us or making us work even harder and faster, maybe... taking a step back and actually going, how how it helps us to work better and give us more room to have those human moments and connections rather than let's just make that hamster wheel even faster.
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And it's like, we're learning nothing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, and and that's why the the talk right now, it seems to make it always look like it's a negative, like, oh, this is great. We can remove all those jobs.
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Well, don't think about removing the jobs. Think about removing the tasks that are not quite as necessary. But think about the ways that the human can make this, you know connect the bridge between the task and the the things that need to be done to bring it to the next stage, which is where we excel in communicating and in connecting with others.
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And I think that's where we need to continue to think, how are we using our human skills to our best of our ability and not get bogged down in what's being replaced?
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Yeah. Well, sorry for that slight digression, but it just um hearing your story about what led you to go and set up on your own, made me think about what's happening right now. um
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What's the best advice you've ever been given and who is it from? Oh, goodness. I mean, I could go on for hours. i think that um the best advice, and and this was one that I can't remember where it came from, to be honest with you, um but it's it's stuck in my head.
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and And here it is. So um that amateurs compete and professionals create. amateurs compete and professionals create.
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And when I first got out into the world of working on my own, I was like, gosh, like I had to think of the competition and fighting and winning and all those things.
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And it's, you know, when I started to think, well, what about working together with others? and finding ways to expand the pie or create with others.
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And that advice really became an eye opener for me. I started connecting with people who are doing it already, who had been long in the game. And it really got me thinking about what I could learn.
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um Having an open mind as opposed to being closed and saying, oh, I have to, i can't share what I know. Yeah. othersrs In fact, you know, that's the thing that is the most, I think the biggest challenge most people face is they think that, you know, what you know is like um something you need to keep to yourself.
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Yeah. The more you give away, the more it comes back to you, the more people get to know you and what you, what you're all about. And I think that is the beautiful thing.
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Yeah. iod done Become known. I had a very similar mindset and then a wiser man than I from New York said to me that he wanted to collaborate with me and I just saw him as a competitor.
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um And he went, Matt, I think it was JFK that said this, but a high tide raises many raises many boats. um And I went, ah, and like a light bulb moment. So we started working together and I've then flipped that viewpoint to, okay, they might be seen as a traditional competitor and in some people's minds, but how can I work with as as many people as possible?
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And is it's it's it's it's a great mindset to be in and great advice. Amateurs compete and professionals create. Love it. Absolutely love it. um If you have so many, I just wonder if you've got another piece of advice having heard such a great one.
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Yeah. first um everyone I'm going to ask for a second bit of advice. Okay. Well, here's a great one. This is coming from one of my coaches, Dori Clark. Dori said to me once, she said that people value you to the extent that you value yourself.
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So if we're constantly, you know, down talking ourselves or diminishing our value or, you know, always comparing ourselves to others, then what happens is um people pick up on that vibe. They pick up on this sense of like, oh you know, this person's so down on themselves.
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You know, they um they pick up on that vibe. And so I love that phrase. It's a real important one. So we need to start by you know having our sense of like we we have value.
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We value ourselves. And that radiates from there. So I think that is an important starting point, you know starting to think about how do we um belong to ourselves? How do we connect with our own value and not try to seek validation and value from others?
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And ultimately, that is where all value starts. Yeah. In fact, I'll just take it one step further. I've been writing a lot of poetry lately, and I wrote a poem recently that said um ah to it's called to be of love.
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and And it's my turn now is to say, i don't want to be of value any longer. I want to be of love. which I know is really, you know, we're going to get a little hippy dippy out there. But I think that's the secret is don't try to be of value to people.
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Instead, be of love to people. And that is where people change the game. When you have conversations and you're just trying to share, you know, your sense of your heart to people, that changes how, you know, you're trying to push your agenda as opposed to just trying to push your heart out into people.
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Amazing. I'm going to have to pause on that one just for a second. um That's very, very powerful. um
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I think this is probably the ah best follow-up question to that, actually, is what do you think is the most important quality in a leader um these days?
Presence in Leadership
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Yeah. um Their presence.
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Yeah. i And really what I mean by that is, you know it's not um how how much you you know have a vision or how smart you are. It's about showing up and showing people that you care. um you know Being able to be at the front of the room and and and be honest about where things are um and being honest about things that you know aren't going great.
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And also being confident that you can move them forward from that, you know, the most darkest moments in um in your company's history. That's what people really, you know, resonate with when you're vulnerable and not vulnerable and like, OK, well, you know, I messed up that or, you know what? But really showing that you're human.
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Then people say, like, this is somebody who I want to follow.
00:25:29
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That's the first time we've had that answer, um their presence, and then everything following up, showing up, showing you care, being honest, being confident, vulnerable. Fantastic answer. um Really, really like that one.
00:25:44
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Might have to explore that one a bit more with you and at a later date. um um Yeah, let's just go into... ah Actually, haven't haven't asked this one in a long time. um If you could swap jobs with anybody for a day...
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Who would it be? What would it, what would you be doing?
00:26:04
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oh my gosh. um Well, I guess I would say the the first person that comes to mind is like maybe Rick Steves. Cause I, you know, i love traveling and you know, he's ah he's always been someone who I've, I really thought was got a coolest job. He gets to, to travel around and,
00:26:21
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and have these really cool adventures. um But i'm goingnna I'm going to flip it on flip it to another person entirely. um The person who I think I would most want to have the job for is to be a ah docent at a museum.
00:26:35
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um And the reason why is I just, i love museums. I'm a museum nerd. um i There's so many things about museums that light me up um because they house like so many interesting things that Curiosity just abounds in some these buildings.
00:26:54
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And the structure of museums. There's so many things about museums that, like, how do they design them so that they um they foster wonder and awe? But also, you know, you can just get lost in a painting. And so there's like a zooming in and zooming out in a museum that has me be, I could be lost in a museum for hours.
00:27:15
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So... So yeah, you know that's probably the geekiest answer you've ever heard. Fantastic answer. Absolutely fantastic answer. I mean, I am. And again, at first, I was in love with the museums as a child and they've only just recently rediscovered them. So it's been a big two, three decade window there where I'd lost touch with them. And it's really, they they are full of wonder, um whether it be art or natural history or and anywhere in between. and,
00:27:44
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and This is going to make me sound a bit geeky now, but it just made me think of A Night at the Museum. And what I wondered whether you were a fan of that film, if you love museums and pictured yourself being Ben Stiller, having fun in the evening with it but the museum coming alive. I think I thought it was such a fantastic premise for a film.
00:28:02
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It really was. I mean, let's be honest. it's ah as As juvenile as it is, it was it was a wonderful idea. yeah oh brilliant idea. I think it really really went straight to the inner child in me. yeah i absolutely loved it.
00:28:15
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So to that to that point, we'll finish with a few few quick far questions. um um I'm guessing if you're Ben Stiller, you'd be a night owl. But ah Tony, are you an early bird or a night owl?
00:28:27
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um I will say i used to be a night owl. That's for sure. I mean, I would, you know, definitely be burning the midnight oil and I had a severe case of FOMO. You know, I didn't want to be the last, the first one to go to bed. That's for sure.
00:28:41
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But I'd say now I'm truly a morning person. i you know, i love being up in the early morning, that sense of quiet, And the ability to have that awakeness of, you know, the morning and, you know, hearing the the day awake, um you know, the birds chirping and everything. It's just something magical about that.
00:29:03
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i've I've been a morning person. for a while and I've started getting up even earlier and I've misjudged it I need to probably have another half an hour in bed I'm finding I need that coffee a little bit later in the day than planned um what's one of the songs that you go to to try and fire you up if you need to be fired up Oh my gosh.
00:29:26
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There's so many songs. I'm like a music ah fanatic. um But this particular song that always comes to mind is, I always think about um ah Ben Harper.
00:29:38
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um He's one of my favorite musicians. And um the one song that burned to shine is is is one that comes to mind. ah It's by Ben Harper.
00:29:48
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And I can hear it right now and i so in my mind. The other one, i just one more because this is ah is White Stripes, ah Seven Nation Army. That's just like, you know, the guitar on that particular song is just, it was, it cut through people's, you know, you through your chest, you can just hear I've seen them in concert. I've seen that band in concert. It's wonderful. They're wonderful.
00:30:12
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One of those moments, you you just wish you'd had that idea. Yes. I was watching ah Jack White, isn't it? um Yeah. And um he was on Real Time with Bill Maher.
00:30:24
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Well, Bill Maher was mentioning that he was at a Dodgers game with him and Seven Nation Army came on in the stadium and he turned around to him and said, is this cool? And he went, I didn't used to like it, but now I love it.
00:30:36
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Yeah. yeah Um, and it must be an incredible moment to hit because it is, is a truly a remarkable song. like the The first moment you hear it for the first time, you it's just incredible.
00:30:50
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And then 500 times later, it's still incredible. So it really is. I'm going to have to look up Ben Harper and burn burn to shine though. Um, I've got a, uh,
00:31:01
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he's like He's a cousin in France, but he's like a brother to me, an older brother, and he loves Ben Harper. So I'm going to have to go look up that song after after we finish this podcast. um And I will message you and let you know.
00:31:13
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Nice, nice. um What's your favourite film? this is as People always get sick of me saying this, but it's not what you think the best film ah ever made is. It's just your favourite film that you can just always put on and watch and be happy.
00:31:28
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Yeah, it's a great question. And um i i usually i i move around this one a lot because as sometimes i'm ah I'm thinking of different things in different moods. Yeah, absolutely. um One of the movies that over the past few years has been really on my mind is Baby Driver, um which because I love the music in it, but I also love there's the driving scene in it is just such a cool thing.
00:31:50
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um If you haven't seen that movie, go check it out. I, uh, I saw it on a plane to America and as soon as it finished, I watched it all, watched it straight again, straight again, all over again. Uh, the music is incredible yeah and and the cast are super cool. ah Totally. Totally. Yeah.
00:32:06
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Like Jon Hamm. Uh, I'm going to, cap while I'm going to run out of the person I want to say, I'm his name evade evades me. Um, but he's not, it's not Jamie Foxx.
00:32:18
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He's in what walking dead he's in Wolf of Wall Street and I cannot think of his name now. I can't remember it either. But yeah, I totally know what you're talking about. Yeah. Great, great film. Might have to put that on later.
00:32:30
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Um, something you've done, but we'll never do again. ah Oh my goodness. ah ah Climbing to the top of, of Mount Kilimanjaro.
00:32:42
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Oh, wow. um And it's insane. Do never do it again. i would say it's just, it was a lot. It was a lot. And um and went feet and,
00:32:54
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um i'm glad i did it but it was strenuous and also challenging with the altitude you know it's just really challenging to get up there and i love climbing so it's not like um it's still a passion of mine but wow that was a big one yeah that's that's that didn't realize it was that high well that's yeah yeah no wonder um And the last question, best place you've ever visited in the world? And if you could be anywhere right now, where would it be?
00:33:27
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Wow. That's a great question. um I would have to say one of the best places is Thailand, um particularly Koh Samui, which was just one of these beautiful places that just felt like you felt at peace.
00:33:45
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you know You could just sit there all day and you know enjoy the breezes and also know that there's all this culture around you. and amazing people.
00:33:56
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um Just a wonderful place. Yeah. I agree. i haven't been there in doing the maths now. 22 years.
00:34:10
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um And it was part of my travel around the world when I finished university. And we got there and we were supposed to continue down from coast, we to Singapore through the, through the, you know, that peninsula, Malaysian peninsula.
00:34:27
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And we, it was so breathtakingly different and relaxing and quiet because we weren't on the main, main drag. We went down the coast and.
00:34:38
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it was about four pounds a night or something in this hut, um, that we just stayed there for four weeks and flew straight to Singapore. Um, we, we kept pushing it back a week. I will get, what we'll, we'll go back to the mainland and then get a train to there then travel.
00:34:51
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And then week by week went down and we go, well, you have to go now because our flight's going from Singapore to Australia. So, but it was, it was, as you, as you put it, was so relaxing, so stunning.
00:35:02
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ah The people were so friendly. So, um, absolutely love Kosemui and, ah wonder I wonder how much it's changed. Probably a lot. ah Yeah, it's been a long time for me too. So definitely I'm now thinking I want to go back there now. Yeah, I'm just drifting off thinking about it. So I lied. This is the final question. who would Who would be a good guest for the Inspire Club podcast?
00:35:28
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Oh my goodness. It's a great question. i had the best guest on my show that I think would be such a cool guest for this show. Her name's Jill Bolte-Taylor.
00:35:41
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And Jill, she's a neuroanatomist. And what inspired me most about her is first of all, she's got an amazing TED talk with 30 million some odd views.
00:35:51
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But she is someone who survived a stroke and lived, you know, helped, she basically reprogrammed her brain from the inside out and found way to reconnect with the world and went on to write these amazing books.
00:36:08
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One of them is called Whole Living, Whole Brain Living, which is just remarkable. And she got me to really see that we're walking miracles. Every moment, our cells and our body are doing all these amazing things to make this moment possible.
00:36:24
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And so if you're feeling like, oh my God, you know, I'm frustrated or I don't have this, I don't do this, or there's all these things are frustrating me. Just think about the blessings that we have just to be here today in this moment and all the things that are happening just to make us.
00:36:42
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It's amazing. Well, what a great recommendation, a wonderful way to finish the podcast. Um, Is there anything else you'd like to add to that beautiful sentiment? Well, the one thing I'll just say is that this is something that has been a mantra of mine in the past, you know, say six months or so, is that if you're feeling stuck in anything or frustrated, get in conversation.
00:37:05
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You know, that's the one thing that... is always the best way to see things that did in a different way is conversations are the gateway to anything. So if you, if you feel stuck, just talk to somebody and that's the way to, to see things differently.
00:37:23
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Fantastic. Thank you so much. Great advice. And we really appreciate your, your time and wisdom on this podcast. So thank you very much, Tony. Thank you so much. It wonderful.
00:37:34
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And thank you to you for listening to this podcast. Very grateful that that you do. And we will be back again next week with another episode. See you soon. Take care of yourselves and be safe. Bye-bye.