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The Kill Power Hour #058 - Gentlemen (1993)
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Tucker finishes off our #2's like a professional shit-taker, and Tyler and Eric are right there with their shit-talking. Fortunately, everyone seems to be a fan of the Afghan Whigs' fourth record, and our close look reveals some surprising personal stories as well as connections to songs by Samiam and The Wrens. #1's from here on--enjoy!
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Introduction to 'Kill Power Hour'
00:00:05
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Kill Power Hour, podcast where three friends spend the better part of an hour arguing and explaining how gentle boys become gentle men Each week we go through one item on our top ten lists. We're currently on albums and this week we'll be discussing Tucker's second favorite album of all time, 1993's Gentleman by the Afghan Whigs.
00:00:24
Speaker
I'm your host, Derek, and as always, I'm joined by my best friend, Talker. I am him. I am him. My best friend's little brother. Yeah, I thought I was the only one that can't talk. It's these guys. How many cans have you opened in the last 30 seconds? Because I feel like I heard... Do you have two drinks?
Morning Routines and AI Banter
00:00:40
Speaker
Echo of effect. I'm kidding. You got that button on your computer? I got lasers. I just learned how to open in them really quickly. It does a 10-second delay on everything. tight Hey, I worked all day.
00:00:51
Speaker
I'm done with my responsibilities. I woke up at six in the morning. well that's I don't believe that. so That was your first poor choice of the day. but To drive to work? Is that what you said? Yeah, I teach like an hour away.
00:01:02
Speaker
oh and You have to teach it. you and When I do demos and stuff like that, I got to get there early. dude AI is just going to take you over your job. What could you possibly be doing that fucking bard can't figure out? What's your guys' is AI of choice?
00:01:19
Speaker
I don't use it. I don't use that shit. Fuck that. prefer organic intelligence. That's kind of hard to come by with this crowd right here. Yeah. You're, you're working at the co-op. Shouldn't you get to the organic intelligence? Yeah.
00:01:31
Speaker
Is that why all the billboards look like that? It's great. It's greenwashing. Ooh, you did some of my billboards. Shit. I know. i know. This is, this is hilarious. I tell tabby this all the time. I'm like, I know the co-op billboards by the fact that they don't say
Humor in Branding and Pronunciation
00:01:47
Speaker
co-op. They don't say you're the, the grocery store's name on the, on the billboards. Yeah.
00:01:51
Speaker
Really? I can't fucking tell. I'm like, oh, that's a great billboard. But man, that's got to be for the co-op. What are they advertising? Like broccoli? Great things in life. Yeah, man. Just good times, bro.
00:02:02
Speaker
and Do you remember that? Good times. You were asking me to digitize old ah Centennial Today footage. And there was that one... PSA that we did for, it was like a food donation bank and you just went on, you got a paper bag over your head and you were known as Plop Man.
00:02:18
Speaker
Plop, yeah. Jesus. It was an acronym, people with a purpose. Yeah. I don't know if that... business organization still exists but it's still funny that's a that's a noise and a movement with my mouth i don't feel good saying it's not it's a good one to actually test we don't have ah windscreens on our microphones because it's not a strong plosive Plop. Plop.
00:02:42
Speaker
Plop. That's what everybody wants to hear is three guys making plops. What about, how do you pronounce this band's name? Is it the Afghan Whigs? Because it's got that in there. Holy shit. It is the Afghan Whigs. No, stop.
00:02:58
Speaker
Whigs. God damn it. Yeah, people that talk like that are... Lots of silent H's in this band. Yeah, there's something like that. Something like that. What album was this again?
00:03:09
Speaker
Oh my god. Dude, you guys. You guys. Yeah, no. ah I don't know. I've heard this before. You probably, I mean. Probably blasting from your brother's room. When did you first hear this,
First Encounters with 'Gentleman'
00:03:22
Speaker
Tucker? So this album came out in 93. I heard it um thinking somewhere around like 95. So a couple years late.
00:03:32
Speaker
But you were getting into Mudhoney around the same time? I was not a Mudhoney person. What? Yeah. Don't we have one of their albums? No. Are you thinking it's seaweed? No.
00:03:44
Speaker
Or sabado? I think. I'm thinking. Morphine? Morphine. There we Oh, OK. Sorry. Jesus Christ. I get those two bands mixed up all the time. Very different. But I'll give it to you because there's M's.
00:03:57
Speaker
Mudhoney. How's Mudhoney? I was getting in. Mudhoney was like fake punk. They were like. It wasn't like poppy stuff like the Blink-182 was. Yeah. But it was like, I swear to God, Mudhoney was on that album that Madonna was doing in the mid-90s where she was scouting like punk bands.
00:04:15
Speaker
Oh, I don't remember that. What's that silver? but Aren't they from Seattle? Mudhoney? Mudhoney? Yeah, they're like a sub pop OG, I feel like. no um Definitely noisier than morphine. but um um Yeah, so like this was the other, if you will,
00:04:33
Speaker
Outside of like a couple of rap albums, that Morphine album, this was like the other non-pop punk, melodic punk that I like had in my quiver, at least until like senior year graduating. Then I would like, you know, I think we got into some like funky shit at that time where it was like maybe a System of the Down album or maybe like a Cake album or...
00:04:57
Speaker
i you know definitely like sprinkle some Bjork in there. i got into Bjork. But this album, I think, was the first of any musicians, any musical group's album that like had that bottom-of-the-barrel, wretched, sort of underbelly, dark, nasty,
00:05:21
Speaker
yeah feeling to it, like that like the person singing about like the dark, well, quoting Dooley here, the dark psyche of the 90s male is what he kind of was trying to explore with this album.
00:05:35
Speaker
And I think you know consecutive albums, you get into like Cursive and some of the other stuff that Tim Cashers in. um And it's self-deprecating.
00:05:49
Speaker
It's like really nasty, but like vulnerable at the same
Themes and Impact of 'Gentleman'
00:05:54
Speaker
time. So it doesn't sound like the the crazy shit he's singing about isn't like It shows him as very vulnerable and broken, but also some of this stuff is like, oh God. yeah yeah yeah If this was to be autobiographical and this guy's been asked about it like a gazillion times, and it's always like, no, man.
00:06:11
Speaker
like Some of this stuff was inspired by things in my life. Yeah. but Turns out you can write stuff but about things that aren't about you. Yeah. I mean, do do authors get, do like book authors get asked those questions? Yeah.
00:06:26
Speaker
Every book is essentially nonfiction. Yeah. No, it's absurd. It's absurd that people think that because they don't think that in the writing world. it's ah It's just assumed that a lot of stuff is made up. But for some reason, when you're singing a song, people always take it so earnestly. like Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:43
Speaker
and maybe I feel like that gets attached to male writers. I'm going to be an asshole here. Yeah, man. Well, I don't think that's an asshole thing. I mean, it's... ah Tyler, wood what books have you written or read?
00:06:55
Speaker
I don't even read books anymore. What's a book? men Like the Bible. Dude books. ah Lots of dude books like the Bible and the Bible too. yeah That's my favorite sequel.
00:07:08
Speaker
or What's the the Satan's Bible? what do you What's that called? Anarchist's Cookbook? No. Tyler orders that when he listens to Danzig. Oh my God. It's just the satanic. The whole earth catalog? i don't know.
00:07:23
Speaker
Firing on all cinders. the Cinders. Cinders. Wow. We're hanging up. Okay. So next week we'll revisit this album. So later this was, so gentlemen was Afghan wigs fourth studio album.
00:07:36
Speaker
um Major label debut. Yeah. And it was their major label debut. They'd been on sub pop and they, they put this out on Electra. Sub Pop wasn't major back then?
00:07:46
Speaker
I guess not. I guess they were an indie label. But yeah, I would say the same thing. I'm like, Sub Pop would be a huge deal. ah or Yeah, now it'd be massive. You'd be so fucking pumped. But I think, you know, by the end of the 90s, like the CD distribution model, like the whole, I mean, what LimeWire and Metallica is like. Yeah.
00:08:07
Speaker
They're actually distribute but distributing a physical product to physical locations. Yeah. And like retail sales are dependent on that still. And like, there's not even streaming. So, you know, this album finds Afghan wigs at, I mean, it's the middle of their recording career.
Afghan Whigs' Commercial Journey
00:08:25
Speaker
Pretty much. It is also their most popular and is the most well-received. ah So it's like, not only is it like artistically really bad-ass, but commercially it fucking kicks ass too. Is it still regarded as their best? Yeah, I mean, it keeps getting put on people's lists of like top- How would that how would that make you feel?
00:08:52
Speaker
like If your album keeps getting entered into... so just like oh your Your best work is 40 years behind you. Yes. that I mean, yeah, that would get... oh i mean But they're still recording music, it seems like. they got i no but there It sounds like the decline is continuing. That's every band, though. you is it It's very rare. when I'm better every day. oh my God.
00:09:13
Speaker
I wake up and I'm like, ooh. I didn't think it could get any better. and Yeah, sorry. Well, so that's... OK, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I think that's possible, Tyler.
00:09:26
Speaker
So this band, forget when they broke up the first time. I should know this. But so they broke up, I think, right around maybe like 2000 or so or 99-ish, 2001. OK, so close. And never them live.
00:09:40
Speaker
two thousand one okay so it' was close um and i never saw them lie Basically, when they were like having that fucking momentous peak. You know you could see them on 120 minutes on MTV. They got videos.
00:09:56
Speaker
um They're on playing what are like nascent festivals of the 90s. Beautiful Girls. They were on one of my favorite movies that didn't make the cut, Beautiful Girls. um So fast forward.
Tucker's Concert Experience
00:10:10
Speaker
all the way until the fall of 2012 when I had just moved back to Minneapolis. And some buddies that are reps in like the skateboard and snowboard industry who knew I liked this band that like kind of nobody liked and that was like kind of old news or whatever. Sure.
00:10:26
Speaker
Afghan Wigs got back together, which I knew which i had heard about, but like didn't even wasn't even paying attention. i was broke, jobless, whatever. And these dudes who are doing pretty good They're like, yo, ah so such and such. I've got a fourth ticket. Such and such bail. Do you want to be my date? you know So I went out with these dudes.
00:10:46
Speaker
And they took me to ah Marvel Bar and Bar La Grassa. We had like badass meals, tons of drinks. Everything's just getting swiped.
00:10:58
Speaker
ah We go to the Varsity. And we see this show. And like I've never done. ah psychedelic drugs. I've never done any man-made drugs. i I want to set this up because this is like, I get, i I feel that I feel it like in my body still, but like I had an experience at this show and I've been to hundreds and hundreds of concerts.
00:11:25
Speaker
I had an experience at this show when they were playing songs from this album that were full out of body. Like i have never felt that immense energy that can't even be described as like joy or like heavenly. I don't even fucking know how to describe it, but like I fucking black out and you shit your pants. Well, yeah. I mean, you know, they found me on the street the next day.
00:11:52
Speaker
It was the most intense feeling I've ever had in my entire life was at this show. And I just remember being like so overwhelmed by it And walking from there to Luce and like we'll end up with stack of pizzas because these guys all ordered their own pizza and like had like two slices. It's like your love of this album is bracketed with so much pizza.
00:12:12
Speaker
Just access. All this free shit. Yes. This album's great. It came with so much pizza. This album. I had half a pizza for every song.
00:12:27
Speaker
So anyway, um i just think that it's possible that this you know this band toured their fucking asses off, broke up, got back together a dozen years later. And you know I don't have anything to measure it against besides like videos yeah of their performances. But holy fuck, like I've not seen ah bunch of old farts give it more. Yeah.
00:12:48
Speaker
Would this record be number two before you had seen that show? I think it would because it's it's one of those things that you know Like Liquid Swords or NOS, it was written.
00:13:02
Speaker
Not NOS's best album, but it's the best one for me. yeah and It's like the one I listen to front to back and can sing whatever, rap along. It's just that thing that I've carried for so long.
00:13:14
Speaker
yeah Yeah. I think it would.
Album Structure and Deep Dive
00:13:17
Speaker
and and That show is now like made it so other shows are like not even near as good as it it should be.
00:13:27
Speaker
how How different does this album sound? Because I had never really listened to this before. Never intentionally. Maybe in your car or something like that. But the the remaster version? Yeah, is it much different?
00:13:41
Speaker
yeah It's pretty spot on. Okay. I think it's just from Sonic. sounds so good. It sounds great. For a record made 93, it could sound a hell of a lot worse. oh I listen to this studio monitors with headphones in the car. like Everywhere it sounds really good. Dually produced it, too. I mean, this guy...
00:14:04
Speaker
I think, you know so he was in like in his teenage years, he was like a- Dooley? Greg Dooley. He's the lead singer. Okay. He wrote the album. He produced the album. um He was like a cinematographer, videographer guy in his teenage years.
00:14:21
Speaker
and i think i Honestly, like I think that lends this album not only like the the last song, like Brother Woodrow, like that's got like a video like a movie ending song to it, I feel like, the vibe. And that's definitely what he was pushing for.
00:14:38
Speaker
But hearing you guys talk about how good it sounds, I think they thought about this, or not they, but Greg thinks about this in like these romantic movie sort of ways.
00:14:50
Speaker
And i honestly, I think that's kind of what part of the sound is like. Mm-hmm. right so And speaking of sounds, so like the first album starts with... if Speaking of sounds. Speaking of sounds, we're talking about us album.
00:15:04
Speaker
That's a fucking NPR level segue there.
00:15:11
Speaker
Speaking of sounds, this record has some on it. It's 945 and the news is an next. Yes. So if I were going starts with this like...
00:15:23
Speaker
ethereal sort of windy. What the fuck? Was it bees? Was it wind? No, man. These guys were driving over the, wind we the bees. like They were driving over a bridge from Cincinnati um into Tennessee, I believe. Trunk full of skyline chili. And they just, wow.
00:15:42
Speaker
Isn't that what Cincinnati's known for? I think that is the, which is just fucking chili and spaghetti. Which is the grossest piece of shit. That's what you're known for? That's nasty. It's actually the perfect meal for Cincinnati. Yes, it is. Let's take two of the trashiest, most low-rent meals you can make and smash them together.
00:16:03
Speaker
I mean, Cincinnati has the art museum. Yeah. But like the rest of the state of Ohio is like it Florida, and it should just go away. Yeah. I've never heard a good thing about Cincinnati. I've been there a handful of times. Yeah.
00:16:17
Speaker
It's always not great. Well, the Afghan wigs came from there. Yeah. They've got a good art museum and they've got the Afghan wigs. They can claim that. Do they still live there, do you think? don't know.
00:16:29
Speaker
I could see Greg Dooley as like a warm weather sort of guy. Oh, okay. You know. Yeah. I feel like there's a Reddit room or whatever those are called called Fat Greg Dooley because he got a lot bigger. Yeah.
00:16:42
Speaker
we have no I hope I have one of those when I get older. We'll at larrys we'll have to have the producer. How can they have that and not like a ah subreddit for Glenn Danzig's forehead?
00:16:53
Speaker
No, they have a subreddit for Glenn Danzig. They have all these pictures of like Glenn Danzig with kitty, like a box of kitty litter. Like he's going to the fucking store and these people are taking pictures of him and like judging him on the Internet. like I love it.
00:17:07
Speaker
Okay, so Fat Greg Dooley was a zine that public published a half edit published a half a dozen issues back in the early 90s. That's all hilarious. Holy shit. That's a great name for a zine.
00:17:20
Speaker
We should start our own zine that just just complete, like each, it'll be sectioned into thirds and it'll be just like cartoons and just shit talking ourselves. I like that.
00:17:31
Speaker
I would do a collaborative zine with you guys. and i with the third But we have to we have to stop we have to stalk each other and take awkward photos of like our mouths open or like bending over or like falling. That can be your section.
00:17:43
Speaker
Fucking freak. Well, no, if you look in like the modern news, everybody all the press photos are of people with their mouths open. Modern news. Whatever is in the checkout aisle at festival is not modern news, Tyler.
00:17:56
Speaker
That's the National Enquirer. Festival food. You guys hear about Bat Boy? This album. He's Trump's son That would make a lot of sense.
00:18:09
Speaker
I really like the albums that had they it their first song. It is not a catchy song. It's a mood setter. And it's a ballsy move because it's a first fucking song. And if you have a picky person who's not in it for the long haul, you've lost them.
00:18:29
Speaker
Yeah. But i think I think back then you could force people because the only way they heard this is if they fucking bought it Yes. So they're stuck with it. Do you think somebody back then was like, fuck, I paid it' fucking $9.99 for this shit. yeah I'm only going to listen to one song? No, they're probably going like one or two. Yeah, you need to be able to get through a few of it.
00:18:48
Speaker
Which is funny because that really is the case with most albums. It's three singles and a bunch of filler. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Well, this turns out writing songs is hard.
00:18:58
Speaker
Yeah. This album had so many fucking jams on it. So if I were going is definitely the intro song. It's the buildup. It's the quiet beginning. um One thing I will mention though, ah and Greg Dooley does this in another album. I don't know if it's black love or which album he does this on, but the Some of the lyrics in If I Were Going are actually in um Debonair as well.
00:19:22
Speaker
Oh, okay. the And it don't bleed and it don't breathe. It's locked its jaws and now it's swallowing. It's in our heart. It's in our heads. It's in our love, baby. It's in our bed. So, in the first, which is fucking, the lyrics in this whole album are like, damn, that's sure hard to hear.
00:19:39
Speaker
They don't need a copy and paste from one song to the other. Come on, Dooley. So in this in the first song, though, he's like warming us up, right? Like he's kind of like he's setting the stage a little bit. And then by the time you get to by the time you get to Debonair, which is one of the singles on the album, it's like he's screaming these lyrics. And it's like in a completely different context.
00:20:00
Speaker
Yeah. And it's almost aggressive, not sad. This guy does scream a lot. like Yeah. And let's bring this up here if you If I had to like tell somebody about this band, um I would be like, every song starts out soft with the mood and then ends up the same way.
00:20:19
Speaker
It always ends up with screaming his screaming parts of the... That's like his there's a fucking formula. yeah There's a bit of a formula. I'm not saying it's bad at all, but I can see it coming.
00:20:31
Speaker
Yeah. Well, so then you get into it. So the first song is definitely the T up for the second song, which is Gentleman. I love that little overlapping drum beat. And then the go. like that's Yeah, he goes now. And then bam. And then the guitars really start digging in.
00:20:47
Speaker
yeah That's actually my inspired track. What? Oh, shit. Wow. The second song. I mean, to start what is essentially the first, I'll say, real song on there with your attention, please. Mm-hmm.
00:21:01
Speaker
Like the whole thing feels name, name the album after the song. Yeah. But like that first lyric in that song. Yes. It's like, it's like those movies when you watch 10 minutes of the movie and then the titles.
00:21:15
Speaker
Yeah. No, I mean, listen to Beatles, Sergeant Peppers, you know, like they get up and they make the announcement. Yeah. This, this is a show. This is a story that's about to unfold.
00:21:25
Speaker
I love that shit. Yeah, it's good. And people have, you know, they're always saying about this album, or have said, I should say, is that it's like a concept album, and it's really not.
Comparative Analysis of 'Gentleman'
00:21:36
Speaker
it's Yeah, I don't think of it as that.
00:21:39
Speaker
But apparently this song reminds Tyler of a Henry Rollins or Beach Boys song. Fucking Kokomo. Let's see here. It's ah Same I Am, the pith from ah Billy.
00:21:51
Speaker
Oh.
00:22:09
Speaker
I can't see the ground When am I living with myself? I've got girl This is a living hell Not a single female life anywhere
00:23:11
Speaker
I'm not a man.
00:23:58
Speaker
Living here, not a single human life Anywhere to be seen and wealthy
00:24:40
Speaker
So that was Sam I am The Pith from the album Billy, 1992. I feel like his voice, the first time I listened to Afghan Wigs again, I'm like, oh, this has Sam I Am vibes, like early Sam I Am vibes. I just feel like the voice is really similar, especially once... ah you know, Fat Delilah or whatever fuck his name is.
00:24:59
Speaker
Wow. Fat Delilah. Craig Dooley. Oh my God. Fat Delilah. Was that like the catalog for overweight little like preteen girls? Wow.
00:25:10
Speaker
Delia's. Delia's. Sorry. Fanta-Liva. Holy shit. It's been a long day to today. Anyway, i love it a similar vibe in my my my head. you get stuck You get stuck in a certain way you listen to music. I experience music differently than someone that's listening to Taylor Swift every day like you see. Sure.
00:25:30
Speaker
yeah ah The way up my perspective is, it's just a little bit different. Yeah. Sam I am has that pretty noticeable lisp though. Right. Oh, don't even notice it. I love it. oh yeah. Cause he had to, the whole song is about taking a pith.
00:25:45
Speaker
God damn it. Wow. Jesus Christ. damn it. EC, I gotta give it to you, man. You are so quick. No, he probably wrote that shit down.
00:25:56
Speaker
he was just waiting for the moment. ah This dude can't remember a person we hung out with every day for 10 years, their name, but he just can fucking fire this shit off so quick. can do that, yeah.
00:26:07
Speaker
It is a superpower of yours. I want to give i want to recognize that right now. That song was cool, and I need to explore more Simeyam. But I will say, just even listening to that song made me appreciate the guitar tone.
00:26:23
Speaker
on gentlemen yeah so much more because yeah there is something about like a hyper compressed metal zone distortion guitar and the guitar tones on this album are all over the fucking place but they're so clean and interesting even when they're like overdriven I ate it up I ate the whole i I wish that this album didn't have the singing on it just for my own like listening pleasure like I really love the way this album sounded Yeah, that's that's actually a great idea. I didn't care for the remastered version has the second disc of demos.
00:26:59
Speaker
And they didn't really seem that interesting to me because there wasn't a huge difference. But I would love to just hear the instrumental versions of this song. Totally. Like you could with the ah Liquid Swords.
00:27:11
Speaker
like Right. Just hearing those is amazing. Well, and I can't speak to, let's say, post-1965 um or even around 1965 Afghan Wigs because that was their album from 98. That's my other favorite.
00:27:27
Speaker
oh So confusing. this Their album called 1965 came out Okay. But so what I'm saying is, I'm surprised. What I'm saying though, is to your comments is this is one of those bands that toured their fucking asses off. Like, you know, so when we talk about making tight albums and being solid like that, I mean like EC or Tyler and I saw a bad religion last weekend.
00:27:53
Speaker
Oh yeah. How was that? they It was fucking amazing. yeah These guys have been playing, again, yeah, they've been playing since 1980, and they are tight and energetic and on the same page. It's all these smiles, too, even from Greg.
00:28:10
Speaker
Yeah. Which... Normally the band was all smiles and then Greg was kind of a grumpy dick the whole time. This one was all jams and weird songs that I didn't never imagine seeing them play live. and Yeah, they played six or eight songs that like we have not heard live. Nice. Cool.
00:28:28
Speaker
Which was fucking incredible. And they were cuts. Yeah. They're old songs. Yeah, they've been showing up in my random... mixes lately. So I've been listening to yeah some stuff from, I think, the album No Control. Oh, yeah. Sounds great.
00:28:44
Speaker
Yeah. So song number three, half hour into this, what do we got here? Yeah. We are going little slow. B Suite, you might notice we're starting a pattern.
00:28:55
Speaker
First song, mellow. Second song, up. Absolutely. Third song, mellow. Yep. Four song, debonair, up. So they start this thing. they like intentionally greg intentionally wanted to get people up and down with this <unk> so this album has some of the best fucking lyrics yeah this one this song especially something about his dick is a brain and his brain wants to fuck your ass or something the first is wow So the first the first verse is, ladies, let me tell you about myself.
00:29:30
Speaker
I got a dick for a brain, and my brain is going to sell my ass to you. There we go. Now I'm OK, but in time I'll find I'm stuck because she wants love and I still want to fuck. And then he talks about how he's ashamed. and like I mean, he's like, but it's pretty gnarly.
00:29:46
Speaker
I mean, all the lyrics in this movie. All the lyrics. All the lyrics in this All the lyrics in this movie. um So, I think where we're getting at if this was a concept album, if this is ah a linear story of sorts, which it's not, but for those who are imagining that, like we're kind of- Pretend we're in a castle.
00:30:10
Speaker
but Well, these are the are all the all the people that are like so into this band and this came out and they're like, oh my God, this guy. fiction Fucking Fat Delilah, man. He's writing some really, really epic fucking songs about his life and it's just a guy Well, this this people pitch this album as a breakup album. And so this is the sweaty, sultry beginning of a romance possibly, right?
00:30:34
Speaker
That's how I read it. I think this is where he's starting to realize that it's breaking down. okay. Because he's like, let ah his second verse is, ladies, let me tell you about my love.
00:30:46
Speaker
She kept giving me more, but it wasn't enough. Okay. So he's breaking up with her because she can't meet his exceptionally horny needs. Yeah, he likes to do it a lot. right. Makes sense.
00:30:57
Speaker
But then what we come to learn, like, that this album, if you're if you're re if you're following along with the with the interpretation of the lyrics. Like he basically makes this picture of just the most volatile, unhealthy, codependent relationship that you one could, I mean, it's just with each. want to date Dooley.
00:31:19
Speaker
No. No. Stay away from Delilah. He's a real nasty fucker. Number four. Dilly. Piss me off so much, even though it's a great song. What? Fucking claps, dude.
00:31:30
Speaker
Really claps. I fucking love the claps. This was the other main man single on here. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a great song, but the claps. like I love it. it's ah It brings up the mood again, and it reminds me of...
00:31:47
Speaker
My inspired by track. Oh, shit which this was a tough one. I had maybe like three or four bands that were in consideration. Oh, it all seemed to apply to a specific thing.
00:31:57
Speaker
Like I was thinking of a John Spencer blues explosion. with the main vocalist kind of swagger and like sex driven okay stuff. I was thinking of the lemon heads and just sort of like that. I don't know. They always struck me as sort of like a Southern sounding man, which these guys do too.
00:32:13
Speaker
But ah as an album, I was inspired by another album, The Meadowlands by the Rens. And we're going listen to this song called Hopeless. shit.
00:32:42
Speaker
Not this time to I'm the only one you got to use And if I tell you
00:33:33
Speaker
No, I feel I was the one who got used and used to just about anything you would tell me.
00:34:30
Speaker
Say you wanted to stay Now you've got to get away You've got to get away Go find someone who wants you Someone to pray to Get on your knees to Lay down and please you too It just won't
00:35:14
Speaker
Shimmer, center, and
Personal Connections to 'What Jail Is Like'
00:37:28
Speaker
That was Hopeless by the Wrens. a I should have put that album on my fucking list. It's so good. The Beach Boys should have been left off.
00:37:39
Speaker
I don't know. there's a And and by gentlemen reminding me of that album, I feel like is one of the highest compliments I could pay this album. It's put together exceptionally well.
00:37:54
Speaker
I didn't even think about the up-down, up-down pacing until I had mentioned it. I knew there was a... They would bring the mood up and then bring it back down, but it never felt like a pattern that I got tired of, you know? Yeah.
00:38:06
Speaker
Well, I love it when it's done intentionally because when it is done intentionally, if they're giving you it because you need it. Yes. Right? Like, some albums...
00:38:19
Speaker
pick a fucking genre, but when they kind of go low, when they go soft, or when they go slow, or whatever. Right. i I mean, They do it because they've run out a good songs. Three quarters of the time, I'm like, why the fuck is this thing in here? You're killing the vibe. It's like a skipper. But yeah on an album like this, you're like, no, this is intentional. Yes.
00:38:37
Speaker
so And then it from Debonair, you go into When We Two Parted. And i that's my favorite song on the record. like Oh, shit. Fade Out. yeah faint out It's so weird. Well, i think that's probably the fade out of the first side.
00:38:53
Speaker
Maybe. don't know. So I like that song when we two parted, but I, I, um, it is a song I skip a lot, like 30 years with the album. yeah It's one that like, unless I'm,
00:39:10
Speaker
if i'm If I'm intentionally listening, right like for something that I want to be a part of, which music can also be the background, but if I'm trying to be a part of the music or have a- simplicity to the melody, like the melodic bass in that in that song that I can imagine would get tired after 30 years of listening to it. It doesn't have the complexity of the other songs.
00:39:30
Speaker
yeah It's so simple and good. If I'm cooking or if I'm like cruising and I don't, whatever. If you don't want to stop and change the song. Yeah. like' not like It's not a horrible song. Like, like fucking number eight. No.
00:39:44
Speaker
um Oh, wow. Well, so, so before we get to number eight, we cannot. Sorry. I mean, obviously there's a six and a seven, but. There is.
00:39:55
Speaker
Okay, so I think six and seven are the best two songs put together in an album of any album I've ever listened to. No way. I'll have to go back. Numbers one and two are better. Yeah, one and two is a good combo. That's such a good combo. Dude.
00:40:10
Speaker
so Six, I've got nothing written down for because I feel like it just, it's like all the other songs mashed together. There's nothing, it's a great song, but there's nothing like. That's what I, exactly what I wrote is the first meh song for me where I'm like, oh, wow.
00:40:24
Speaker
This band has played out their tricks and oh as good as they are, this is this song is nothing new in the album at this point. I actually like it for that reason. Yeah.
00:40:35
Speaker
Well, Mike, I think it's a great song, but it's just nothing. it's a yeah It's a great I wouldn't call it a great song, but it's a very good song. But there you go. I agree. It's in an album of amazing songs. Good doesn't rise to the top.
00:40:47
Speaker
so And you got number seven and the piano. That's the first introduction piano. So at the sound so hold up. Hold up.
00:40:57
Speaker
So. Fountains in Fairfax. Fountain in Fairfax. an actual An actual fucking corner. Whoa. So this album is real. Dude, it's fucking real, bros. The pyramids built the aliens.
00:41:12
Speaker
What? Okay, so if you- I don't know why these balloons are keep going. I thought these things would be done by now, but- I can't.
00:41:25
Speaker
Tucker found his effects button, so we're- And the balloons is stuck. It's really stuck. It's like that Zoom, that classic Zoom video where the the judge has got the cat face.
00:41:39
Speaker
He's like, I swear. There's a lawyer. He's like, I promise you, Honor, I'm not a cat. So serious.
00:41:49
Speaker
Well, so Found in Fairfax is a Mess is written about this dude um attended AAMA meeting with a friend of his who was going through some trouble.
00:42:00
Speaker
And at this meeting, he saw some really down and out motherfuckers. But then he also saw some people who he thought were like auditioning. So they were like trying to absorb somebody's fucking terrible shit.
00:42:15
Speaker
Oh, God. It's so fucking tragic. And he actually wrote this song because of that. Yeah. That it was so messy. So I love that this song, again, and ah someone who doesn't do like nasty, nasty shit, like some of this, he's talk one of the songs he talks about sharing and eating all this stuff, but like I just love it.
00:42:35
Speaker
I just love when people are spilling their darkness, even if it's not real. Like just... do you watch murder mystery shows i don't that stuff is all scary to me yeah thank you but so the aa like story where he spies people trying to get it like inspiration for their characters so is this a city or a corner in la i'd say yeah yeah right there was a i forget which show it was but it was about stand-up comedians It was a fictional show, and they were going to like AA meetings because they could get time on a mic. Whoa. And so they would just practice their jokes. and full like god recovery oh um Oh, my God. Oh, Holy fuck. That's so rotten. I know. so They're so desperate for mic time. Jesus Christ.
00:43:22
Speaker
That's so rotten. I fucking love that story, but that's what that's what that reminded me of. ah Well, so then what, so that cues up what jail is like, I think on a really high energetic nasty note. Shouldn't the question be phrased? What is jail like?
00:43:37
Speaker
I think he's saying this relationship is what jail is like. Oh, okay. Because again, too, if you think about like how we've, you know, things are getting nastier and nastier and like messier and stuff. And yeah this, this song I think is the pinnacle of the argument.
00:43:57
Speaker
If they're really, if the, if it, if everything's falling apart based on a singular time, right. They broke up. This is that moment in time where he is fully unleashing his side of things. Now, he's already said that he's a bastard and an asshole and all this other stuff. But like this is where the part that like is beyond him, it either has the ownership of the other person or it's just part of being a couple. This is where he lets it all out.
00:44:23
Speaker
And this is my favorite song. My argument is that that's the next song. My curse. Well, he actually couldn't sing this song himself. It was supposed to be him.
00:44:35
Speaker
So my favorites. My what? I'm sorry. It's fucking number eight is not sung by him, right? Correct. No, that's a woman. Yes. Okay. man I know. But like, I couldn't tell almost. I'm like, is he just like,
00:44:51
Speaker
Is there a lot of heroin involved? A ventriloquist? You do so much heroin, you sound like a woman. You sing higher? No, no. Well, the first thing I wrote down for that for that is ah it's fucking painful. It sounds like what happens if you're trying to sing along and you can't hear yourself.
00:45:09
Speaker
yeah So every fucking note you're trying to hit is like fucking really off. um That's what it sounds like to me. Like it just, it was jarring. All right. But I want to hear more about Tucker. what so why is what jail is like your favorite song?
00:45:25
Speaker
Well, so as you said, it was the apex. Yeah. But it's got to be more than that, right? Well, so it was the song that I identified with when I felt trapped in my marriage.
00:45:38
Speaker
Oh. I was thinking this was a Stacy album. i had a I had a blog post about it. Ooh. And she read it. She's like, was that about me? And i was like, no.
00:45:49
Speaker
It's about my other wife. Wow.
00:45:53
Speaker
That was pretty great. All right. So anyway, we're going listen to ah and track number seven, ah What Jail Is Like. I want you to corner me.
00:46:46
Speaker
No matter what I do, I'll tell you a secret that shared in me once or twice. I loved her. She loved me.
00:47:08
Speaker
But the shame you never lose, Infatuated with a lunatic
00:47:55
Speaker
Lonely, or maybe, or maybe not at all demands Your idea, your image, your death
00:49:08
Speaker
I'll warn you, if you want me, I'll scratch my way out of pain. Why am I an
00:49:23
Speaker
animal? That was What Jail Is Like by the Afghan Whigs. ah Who here has been to jail? I don't know what jail is like.
00:49:35
Speaker
Oh, God. It's way worse than the way he fucking explains it. I've been arrested and thrown in the back of a cop car, but never. Thrown? Well, set gently like a good boy. Embellishing.
00:49:48
Speaker
Wow. He threw me in the back of a cop car. I went to San Diego County Jail once for a day. And that was horrible. Oh, because you were just putting up stickers. Dude, I mean, I got, I just told this story to someone. I got fully, they moved, they moved, they did not, I did not have sex with anyone in the, ah either willingly or against my will, but they move you from room to room.
00:50:14
Speaker
And it got colder and colder and there's no clocks. So it's all fucking psychological. You're miserable. You don't know how long you've been in there. Yeah. I don't even know. vegas Dude, on like my third or fourth room, they move you into this like straight dungeon-y looking shit.
00:50:32
Speaker
No, dude, the door was like a half. Are you guys ready for the dungeon level? Is there a dungeon master? Dude, the door was like a half a foot. Fat Delilah. Sorry. yeah So we get in there and there's like, you know one, two, three, four, five spot big numbers on the ground. And then by each number, there's two squares and you're supposed to put your feet in there.
00:50:53
Speaker
And they basically like make you turn. You have to take off all your clothes, kick it aside with your feet. Then they fucking de-louse you. They powder you with that fucking chemical powder. oh my god They make you turn around. They do your fucking front side. Then they make you turn back around, put your hands back up.
00:51:10
Speaker
Then another guy or whatever comes and gives you like a soggy grocery bag full of ill-fitting shit-stained county prison clothes. you And they just give it to you. And then they make you pick it up and then you turn around and you get back in line and then they like, they let you out and like those five dudes that you're with or you're,
00:51:30
Speaker
you are one of five walk into a room that's super bright, big room, probably like 40 guys. And the dungeon door that I described is so it's fucking thick. It's so thick and loud that when it opens, it's like a cartoon. like do And everybody wakes up to five naked dudes holding soggy ass bags in front of their crotches.
00:51:50
Speaker
So then you get, and think I like the Afghan wigs version. Dude, it just, I can keep going, but it's just just so bad. Yeah. i ended This is what soggy bags of shit sink clothes are Well, shout out to Brian Horde. I don't know if you remember him. He's a pro skater. Well, i don't know if he ever went pro. He's am.
00:52:11
Speaker
He rode for DECA, which was that company that ryan Rodney Mullen and Daywan had for a hot minute. okay um So Brian and I traded slippers.
00:52:23
Speaker
like flip-flops because I had, I had two lefts and he had two rights and he's like a size 13. Yeah. yeah He had like one big, one small and I had one big, one small. So we, we swapped and we started talking about skateboard shit.
00:52:35
Speaker
So that was cool. I need you to connect the dot to this record for me. Well, you asked what, someone asked if they'd ever been to jail. and Yeah, would. Oh, okay.
00:52:46
Speaker
Oh, geez. My Georgia jail experience had less skateboard and less delousing, but more home, more arson, equal nakedness and flip flops.
00:52:58
Speaker
Just no skateboarders. Oh, that's fair. Yeah. I got to call my girlfriend from jail o and be like, Hey, Kira, I'm not gonna make it home tonight. Oh, I killed a man. Why?
00:53:10
Speaker
Why? I'm in jail. It was the same day my house burned down and then I went to jail. I didn't go to jail for burning my house down. Yeah. But it was great. Good times. I was going to say that the house would have been flooded without wet her panties got out if you made that phone call. Ew. But apparently it was burnt down so maybe I just put out the fire. I just put out the fire.
00:53:31
Speaker
Oh God. This is, ah is this over yet? Is, okay so the next song the next song is my curse which is sung entirely by marcy mays and because it's sung by a female i think people think of it as a counter to the narrative that we've been fed yes but as you alluded to the dude couldn't come up he didn't have the big enough balls to sing this yeah really yeah you think he's just like out of his fucking vocal range is that no couldn't figure out his lyrics are too vulnerable
00:54:02
Speaker
Yeah, too vulnerable. And he i think he did, again, intentionally think that even though it's maybe something that is more inspired by his side of things, represented with the female voice gives the female character yeah a little bit of their own side, if you will. Yeah.
00:54:21
Speaker
um I read some it. Throne's breadcrumbs, really. yeah Pretty much. I listened to the song a bunch of times and I couldn't get it. I'm not saying the lyrics didn't hook up, but her voice was too...
00:54:35
Speaker
I don't know. i I thought of this as the quiet apex of the record. OK. So what jail what Jail is like is like, I agree with you totally, Tucker. like it's It is the peak of the record.
00:54:47
Speaker
But when it's followed by my curse with different vocalists, it's just like, what? Yeah. Well, and it's intense. ah Yeah, it's it's the best juxtaposition you could ask for, I think, in the sequencing of a record.
00:55:01
Speaker
Like, yeah, I really keep coming back to the sequencing and being like, goddammit, this is perfect. They did it really, really, really well. ah Because the way this record closes out, too, with these next three songs is.
00:55:14
Speaker
Yeah. Next three songs. they take you back up to Now You Know. And i don't necessarily agree with this, but. Greg Dooley has said that this is like his most violent song.
00:55:26
Speaker
Really? So the what? but
00:55:35
Speaker
well Why are we fucking talking about this record still?
Closing Tracks and Artistic Conclusion
00:55:40
Speaker
OK, so now you know as the is the last ah up song, we'll call it, the ah intense one.
00:55:47
Speaker
Yeah. Followed by the only cover on this song. I keep coming back. It's actually a cover. It's a Tyrone Davis cover. And I'm not familiar ah with this ah with this gentleman. But he's ah he's an older gentleman.
00:56:09
Speaker
Jesus Christ. Very informative. Moving on. What is this? Are you just reading a census? No.
00:56:18
Speaker
he was ah He makes somewhere between a year. He male. College lived dwelling but so sizable dwelling
00:56:35
Speaker
He had 2.5 children. This should be called the No Information Podcast. Do want to not learn a goddamn thing? what ah Tyrone Davis had half a child. I want to hear more about this man. but real talent Real talented guy.
00:56:56
Speaker
um So I keep coming back as like a mellower song i think it's kind of like a closer yeah it's like a side i don't know like i think because it's not one of greg's songs he's choosing it as like uh exhale because brother woodrow the true last song is like the credits Yeah, it's an instrumental. It's a very nice bookend to the first track on the album too which is like a very subtle, like as you said, ethereal track. Yeah. I don't Yeah.
00:57:32
Speaker
I'll take a good fucking instrumental any day. Yeah. It's a really beautiful way to end the album. Beautiful is a stretch, but yeah. ah So the last thing I'm going to say about the album is ah the cover.
00:57:46
Speaker
Because the cover is so fucking amazing. you know who made that photograph? It's a Nan Golden. oh that's new. Oh, shit. Wow. Is that from the Ballad of Sexual Dependency? Nan and Brian in bed. Yeah. Okay.
00:58:01
Speaker
Dang. So I don't know if it's inspired by that or if it... I don't know. But it's like that that whole vibe and holy shit, it's powerful.
00:58:15
Speaker
I think that light on those kids and like the fact that like you can tell they already feel the burden of... Yeah. Adulthood. Yeah. That's cool. Relationships. Yeah, I didn't know the story behind that photograph. Sadness.
00:58:30
Speaker
Because, yeah, I know that. it And a good connection to another band I was thinking of, Big Star. Oh. When I was listening this record. You ever listen to them? oh Just a little, but like very sporadically. should listen their first two records. like I feel like you would dig that. there's It's that, I would call it like a Memphis swagger.
00:58:51
Speaker
Oh, okay. That I feel like this album had. there' Wasn't there a documentary about that band? Probably. i never watched? They were, there were a I think, like the Afghan wigs not really appreciated during their heyday and left a bigger mark.
Recent Musical Explorations
00:59:05
Speaker
Well, and they're from big stars from the, what, 70s? Yeah. Yeah, that was yours. Good stuff. Yeah, that was yours. Well, as you've been listening to, boys. Well, you know, I've been listening to a lot of Janelle Monae's latest album.
00:59:22
Speaker
I like it. It's energetic. It's Janelle, but it's not like her last two, which I think are fucking like front to back party fucking bangers. Explain Janelle Monae to someone who's never listened to Monae before.
00:59:36
Speaker
kind she bisexual pansexual i can't keep track of it doesn't it doesn't definitely bongos how does that relate to the no i'm just trying to so i was trying to give you ah so she's a prince prodigy i was just trying to give you like a full picture like she's a prince prodigy pop fucking royalty. Like she's super good.
01:00:00
Speaker
She does a lot of music for other people. ah pretty evocative lyrics because she's kind of got this, like, I don't give a fuck, but it's not like nasty, like some of the shit that Tyler's had us listen to with like the whatever girl. Yeah, no, it's not like sex based. Yeah, it's like fun liberation sort of equality, like hippie, dippy, futuristic type stuff.
01:00:25
Speaker
um So I've been listening to that. And then Tokyo Cuban Boys and Kazuaki Misago. It's like this Japanese jazz album. I've been trying to find a lot of Japanese jazz. I really like it, but I don't know anything about it. I don't know who to look for. And I keep mispronouncing everyone's names. And I don't remember the names.
01:00:45
Speaker
So I like keep those guys. I feel like that's a a very specific phase that all 40 something year old white men go through. Really? Japanese jazz phase. Wow.
01:00:57
Speaker
Tyler, get ready. It lasts about seven months. Okay. Wow. Have you already had yours? I have not had mine yet. Oh, well, I i wish it upon you. but He sees a late bloomer.
01:01:09
Speaker
Yeah, it'll come eventually. Something's going to come. Alkaline Trio came out with a new song. I don't like the way it sounds in regards to the the... Like, the fucking recording sounds fucking weird, but maybe I just need to get used to it.
01:01:23
Speaker
Fucking awesome song. And Tucker, you should like this. yeah if I can't believe you haven't seen it. um It's got Steve Caballero in... he He, like, skates this bowl at this pink motel, and apparently it's, like, a throwback to, like, this, like, 87, 88 skate video where he... Yeah, so it's, like...
01:01:43
Speaker
First of all, Ackline Treehouse got a new drummer, so there's like some new energy. Oh. The song's got a cool vibe. There's some fucking zombies. The song's super Is it called Blood, Hair, and Eyeballs? Yes. I feel like Matt Skiba just got fucking fired from Blank-22, which is hilarious. Really?
01:01:59
Speaker
So he's got like some fucking angst in him, and they got a new drummer. Okay. Man, we got... Everything going, everything happening. They're going to tour in March, which who knows when this podcast will come out, maybe 2025. So it doesn't fucking matter, but yeah, um everyone will be dead.
01:02:16
Speaker
Yeah. That was my jam. And then and we we went and saw the Vital Legion concert. So that was in the mix. Was Elkaline Trio ever related to Blink-182 or no? No, when one of the dudes dropped out of Play 22, Matt Skiba joined, recorded a few albums, and then the guy came back and they just fucking fired Matt Skiba.
01:02:37
Speaker
That sucks. Wow. That's fucking whack, man. Yeah, not cool. Dilla. There you go.
01:02:50
Speaker
Fat. Fat Skiba. Fat Skiba. Have you checked out my new zine? Fat Skiba. It's got pictures of a mind kitty litter. God damn What was funny and interesting is that Alkaline Trio was my first show back after COVID.
01:03:05
Speaker
It was apparently also the first show that anyone else in that fucking theater, everyone else was middle age and ah mildly overweight. Um, and we were all crying in unison. It was pretty hilarious. I will remember this for the rest of my life, but, uh, it was a show that bad religion supposed to play, but they got fucking COVID.
01:03:23
Speaker
Um, Matt Skiba comes out and fuck you. I mean, I guess if you're a famous person, people get to judge you or whatever. He was very overweight, but holy fuck, man.
01:03:34
Speaker
we Could you imagine being a person that tours your entire life months out of the year and then all sudden you can't fucking do it for two years or something? Could you imagine what that would do to your fucking psyche? Yeah, I know.
01:03:46
Speaker
I would just go fucking insane and drink and eat all all of the eat 400 pounds and then... When I get back on tour, all of a sudden I'm massively sweating and fucking 400 pounds. and But it was, it was great. so Piece of the hut for real, man. Wow.
01:04:03
Speaker
Holy shit. Gross. Well, what, uh, what about you EC was you've been listening to? Uh, well, a little bit of big star for
Music Industry Anecdotes
01:04:11
Speaker
sure. Cause I was, and oh yeah, just trying to like,
01:04:16
Speaker
go through all the references that this band was lighting up for me. um I was like, worst case scenario, the comparison I was making was Stone Temple Pilots.
01:04:28
Speaker
That would have been the worst. I know, right? That was the worst. I was like, because there's something about that mid-'90s grunge. What was the other one? Creed?
01:04:39
Speaker
Oh, dude. but and um us ah To bring back the Wrens one more time, when the Wrens put out their their great album of the Secaucus,
01:04:52
Speaker
so caucus They were going to be hired by the label that eventually signed Creed, but they were like, no, we don't want to commit to this like bullshit contract.
01:05:04
Speaker
And so the next on the punching list was Creed. Whoa. And they blew up, in the and then the Wrens, Meadowlands came out of this being yeah. I've got a great Creed story that has to do with me.
01:05:17
Speaker
So I'm living in Albany, Georgia, and our family owns a Harley-Davidson dealership. And one day we get a phone call. from none other than the manager of Creed. Wow. Their first single just got a huge, like, fucking blew up.
01:05:31
Speaker
And he's like, i'm going to buy these fuckers matching motorcycles. So they called us somehow. in we ordered the motorcycles and we fucking sold them the motorcycles. That's my Creed story.
01:05:44
Speaker
Oh. you might need to workshop that story a little bit fuck that story take that to an a a meeting and see if we can workshop it there's potential there moving on what ec you you have a fucking wait is this is this podcast is over so that was a that was just done we're moving on to pizza toppings right Top 10 pizza toppings. Vegetarian, but I like pepperoni, goddammit. What are put on your tombstone?
01:06:15
Speaker
The podcast. Man. ah There is no question for me what my number one favorite album is. Wait, we're running number ones already? Yeah.
01:06:26
Speaker
This is creme de la creme. We get to guess here. um Gang of Four. It's never changed since I was 17. Okay, so it's not Ween.
01:06:38
Speaker
It's not Tim Riley Gold. It's not your own album. He has his number one album. Okay. It was on the list for a while, but I wanted to make room for the Beach Boys.
01:06:51
Speaker
Aren't your parents super mag up? Was it Kid Rock?
01:06:56
Speaker
Definitely still influenced by my parents' record collection. they've been buying so many Kid Rock seven inches lately. It's not ween, it's not bad. Actually, it's Kid Rock just relates three inches because it makes them feel bigger. Oh my God. Is it?
01:07:12
Speaker
Wow. It's not Bob Mould anything. Oh, is it Pixies?
01:07:18
Speaker
That's a really good fucking guess, Tucker. um And I really wish I had room for Pixies. What awful music is similar to Pixies? No, this is amazing music.
01:07:28
Speaker
And honestly, i could have picked one of three albums from this band. Pave it? Would have fulfilled my number one slot. It's Ween. Oh, it is Ween. and And if this was my true number one, I would make you listen to The Pod from 1991.
01:07:46
Speaker
But that album is not for the uninitiated. OK. So we're going play the best album by a popular census.
01:07:59
Speaker
by Wayne, 1997's The Mollusk, which inspired, which was so fucking legendary, then literally inspired the show SpongeBob SquarePants. No way. This album birthed an entire fucking universe. It's a concept album.
01:08:14
Speaker
It's a weird album that was recorded literally a few miles down the road. from my aunt's house in New Jersey where I would spend summers. So I feel like genetically connected to this record. Shit.
01:08:25
Speaker
Jesus Christ. Okay. Tyler, when I'm back home. Dude, that's your creed story. That's your creed story. That's my creed story, too. But Tyler, when I'm back home, do you have any more mushrooms?
01:08:39
Speaker
We're going to take them. And we're gonna listen to this? We're going listen to this we're going sit in your hot tub. And it's, you are going to define your life in two halves. Wow. gri Everything up until now. then everything after. but That song, I'll be your Johnny on the Spot, fucking tripped me out when I heard it the first time. This whole album will trip you out.
01:09:02
Speaker
I mean, that is a spark. Tucker lives nearby. He could come over to that hot tub and eat said mushrooms. Strap on your jammy pack, boys. We're listening to the fucking mullet. Oh yeah, Mutilated Lips. Oh man, it's been a while since I've listened I've never heard it before. But I have, and it is fucking weird. Dig into it. It's a trip.
01:09:22
Speaker
So join us next week as we listen to my fucking favorite album of all time. Fucking favorite. Fucking favorite. 1997 Opus, The Mollusk. Until then, well.