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Ep 14 Tool Talk
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Denise and Tiffany talk tools of the trade including: how to choose yarn, needles, and hooks, and a little something special at the end. You can find complete show notes at https://arcticedits.com.
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Introduction and Hosts
00:00:15
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Hello and welcome to Knit, Design, Edit, Sleep, Repeat with Lisa Conway, Denise Finley and Tiffany Wooten. Let's listen in and see what's happening, who's happening and what's new in their world.
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Due to scheduling challenges, today's episode will not be with Sarah LaRoe. Her episode will air at a future date. Instead, listen to Tiffany and Denise as they talk tools of the trade.
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Well, hello, Ms. Sparkle Coordinator. How are you? Hello there, Ms. Tiffany. I am good. How about yourself down there in hot, hot Texas? Girl, it's hot, hot, hot, hot and hotter. Like it's, we're up to 20 something hundred degree plus days this year already and it's only July, so it's gonna.
00:01:13
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It's going to be miserable. I could never live there again. I'm telling you, I could never live there again. I just turned our air conditioner on for the third time this summer. I'm so jealous. I will say it's better than Florida and the humidity and swimming to the mailbox. I do not miss that.
00:01:32
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No, no, no, no. I went to visit Florida back in May and I texted, like the first thing I sent everybody besides, you know, it wasn't even, hey, I'm here. Hey, I'm in the area. It was, I do not miss the humidity at all. And they all laughed and said, well, that's exactly what I tell people is Chicago is really bad too when it gets hot. Yeah. Because of all the lakes. Yeah, because of the lakes. We lived eight miles off of Lake Michigan and it was just like an armpit. Yeah.
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It's awful. Don't miss that. Don't miss it. Not at all. Not even a little bit. Not even a little bit. All right, y'all. So our lovely listeners.
Episode Preview
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This is another chaos train with the Miss Denise and I. So, you know, all your seatbelts need to be fastened. Your tray tables need to be in your upright positions and hold on because
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uh miss miss lisa is still recovering from her surgery it went well it went just as expected um you've got us for a few more episodes so and then she'll be back in the hopefully be back in the swing of things at that point but um
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Until then we're going to ride this chaos train and we're just going to have fun with it. And we just always have fun. I did have managed to chat with Lisa for quite a while the other night and she is doing surprisingly well and she looks great. I was very encouraged by that. So I wanted all of our listeners to hear that too. Yes. Yeah. She's been, she's been up and talking to both of us in the last week and she's been
00:02:58
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you know, pushing through and she's starting to get to that, okay, what am I going to do things? So she's starting to get a little restless, which is good. If restless is good, but just overdoing is bad. That well, and finding that balance is really hard.
Essential Knitting Tools
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So today, Ms. Denise and I are going to be doing tool talk. We're not doing tool time, just for those of us that grew up in the nineties and watched nineties TV shows.
00:03:24
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It's not tool time, it's tool talk. And if you don't know what that is, I'm sorry, you missed out on the gloriousness that was JTT in his prime. So anyways.
00:03:35
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I am an 80s child. What can I say? I raised 80s children, so I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. So what you got in store for us today, Miss Denise? Well, you know what? I was thinking that while we're on this kind of hiatus, kind of in the middle of things and not really focusing on editing stuff, that it might be interesting to some of our listeners
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budding designers or experienced ones all over the place, they might be interested to have a basic knowledge or to rehear a basic knowledge about two of the tools of the trade that are absolute necessities. That's yarn.
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and needles or hooks. You can't do anything in our industry without either one. So this would be good even for basic makers too, who are just joining, who are just getting in, devolved and learning what we're getting ready to do. So, and this is another one of those that if y'all, I'm going to put this up up front now and we'll remind you later. If you do have questions, hit us on Instagram or the Facebook group or in the email that we can never seem to remember.
00:04:45
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Um, since Lisa got on my case last time, she goes, I can't believe she said I laughed so hard. You couldn't remember it anyway. She's cracked up at us when she was editing our episode y'all. She thought it was the funniest thing that we can remember the email of knit design edit at gmail.com. She thought it was the funniest thing and laughed. She said she was laughing, crying at us. So we probably provided her off of fibroflaro. We provided her entertainment and her recovery. So
00:05:15
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Yes, exactly. That's what we aim to do. That's our thing. But anyway, I just thought that that would be a good thing to kind of go over. I concur. So you want to start with yarn or you want to start with hooks and needles? I think we'll start with yarn because... Yarn is always fun. The soft and fluffy stuff. The squishy stuff you want to do. Squishy, squishy. However, one of the things that I got to thinking about was even experienced knitters.
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sometimes are like, okay, I can't afford what is used in that pattern or I can't, I don't like the consistency, the blend, whatever fiber it is or anything.
Exploring Yarn Types
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So what can I use to the fiber? Exactly. So what can I use to substitute it?
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Yes. Well, I have found a couple of places that they could go to online that details in detail, not just the makers themselves, not people makers, but the yarn manufacturers. You can always go to their websites and see their websites always got to get pretty pretty. But overall, like what does wool yarn? How many different kinds of wool yarn are there? You know, what can you use to replace that? It's found and this will be in our show notes, of course, that can be accessed on our rev page or Facebook page.
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is knittingknowledge.com. This is where I've pulled this information from. And it was fairly complete, but it was also very concise, which is always a good thing for me. Because I'm not the author that I am.
00:06:47
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But one of the things that I wanted to talk about was, first of all, yarn weight. You know how those little numbers on the side of the yarn bands that they have now one, two, three, four, five, six. It'll have the skein with the number on the label on the side of the yarn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's numbers one through five. Six. Here I am with a bad editor. I was going to say, I think it's six. Yeah, six is super bulky. Yeah. So
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That is not always as accurate as knowing whether it's worsted or decay or sport or fingering or errand. That is so true. There's so many little subdivisions in each one. I had picked up a worsted weight and I started working with it and I was like, this feels so much more like a decay weight and this is going to mess everything up on my project.
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Well, I know we said we weren't gonna name names and I really, this is not a criticism at all, but I know that Knit Picks, Will of the Andes worsted is a light worsted. It is a very light worsted. Across the board, it's a light worsted. It's a comfortable worsted, but it is a light worsted. It is my favorite, but I know you're going to have to adjust your needle sizes. Correct. I actually had to hold it double on a sweater I made last year to be able to make gauge on a worsted project. So yeah. I've heard people do that. And that's one of those things you have to know.
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Yeah, so I mean, but this is just general information. Basically, it's about fibers, like the plant fibers that are made, what they're made out of. Of course, you have wool, right? Well, in wool, we have merino wool, which is super fine wool that comes from those lovely merino sheep. You just want to squish them too. You want to squish them a bit, kind of a love of a tickle hole. Exactly. I wanted, at one point in time, I really thought I was going to have my own sheep farm and that didn't happen. So anyway.
00:08:39
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There's Shetland wool, actually comes just from Scotland's Shetland Islands, but I love using it. It's thicker than merino sheep wool and it's also got a very very water resistant capacity to it. Oh okay, I've never used that so that's interesting. Yeah but it is itchy.
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Yeah, I mean, a lot of wool can be, unfortunately. I would want to make a sweater. Yeah. There's also organic wool. It's not chemically treated, processed, or altered in any way. So this makes it good for people maybe who have chemical issues. Yeah, I think that chemical issues are sensitivity. Correct. But they're also wool blends. And what they tend to mostly blend them with are alpaca, silk, or acrylic.
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Um, I've seen them blended with several other things too. I've seen them. Yeah. And I don't know how sorts of blends out there. Oh God. Yeah. But they were talking about just with wool. Then this is one of my favorites because I have them all over my house. Alpacas. Alpacas. They're so cute. They're so cute. They're squishy and fluffy. And yes, y'all I'm, I am that person. I'm sorry. You're just going to have to deal with me being that person, but I am too. But let me tell you about alpaca or let me tell you a little bit about this, um,
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knitting knowledge.com is it does then under each classification of yarn, it has a chart of pros and cons. Okay, why would you want to use this yarn and why wouldn't you not want it like under the alpaca, it can be expensive, it felt or pills easily.
00:10:17
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and it can grow and lose its shape over time. Which brings me to a funny story. I was making a sidewalk shawl. It's a pineapple crocheted pineapple. It's stunning. It is stunning. I was making it for a swap for somebody. And she was short, five four, five three. Well, when I got done with it and it was out of alpaca, it was too long for me.
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So guess who had to do that all over again? I was gonna say that thing grew quite a bit then. It was crazy and I tried blocking it thinking that would shrink it up and it did not. Not even a little bit. That's no just that's the warning about warning about alpaca. Then there's cashmere which I just did the bride's shawl in.
00:11:00
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which is just like bada and y'all horns, you know, it's gorgeous. I think my mom did my wedding shawl at a cashmere too. She told me about you doing your wedding shawl. Yes, it is absolutely stunning. And actually I got to loan it to a friend for her wedding for her something borrowed. So that was a lot of fun.
00:11:21
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Daniel's, I did in a Serafina pattern by Donny. It's on Ravelry. It's a pattern on Ravelry. And it turned out prettier than any of the other ones I've ever done. And I didn't even edge. I was going to edge it with a ruffle and I thought, eh, we'll just ruin it. Then we also have mohair. Angora. I am so scared to use mohair. Oh, no. You can't move. I mean, it's so soft. And I've got a project sitting over here.
00:11:50
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and one of my Ziploc bags with the pattern and all the yarn and everything. I have a pattern sitting over here to work it and it's mohair and something else.
00:12:00
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And I am so petrified to use it. Well, the mohair-ish type yarn that scares me to death, which is more silk than mohair, but it's silk emer, is the kid silk haze. And your mom told me about, I think that's what she said she made your wedding shawl out of. And I was like, oh my gosh, that stuff, I would never use it by itself because it's so lightweight. But I mix it with a DK weight usually, or a fingering weight. And I say that could be done. Makes a beautiful aura.
00:12:29
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Yeah, this this mohair pattern that we've got over here, three friends and I all bought stuff to make it. We haven't done it yet, of course, but because we find all these other patterns we want to make ahead. But of course, it's a mohair and something else held together. So yeah, it's a double. Well, my first real legit full sweater project, where I learned to knit continental, I was living in Boulder, Colorado at the time, and it was mohair.
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and it was on like size 10 needles so it was kind of a big bulkier look and it was a peach color it was absolutely gorgeous and it was knit a sweater in four days but theirs was over the weekend you know so it was every saturday for a month and then we went home and did homework right i got you so but that was mohair and i was i wore that thing out i think it wore holes in it i mean seriously i just love that thing yeah i could see that that sounds comfortable
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So mohair, you know, is from those crazy goats, or no, angora is from the goats, right? Angora is also a super soft. It's very warm too, angora. A lot of people line their mittens, not gloves, but mittens. They'll make a liner out of the angora inside. That's interesting too. There's also lama wool, which tends to be a little tougher.
00:13:51
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It's similar to alpaca, but it's more it's hollow inside. So it tends to have a little more halo to it. Okay. And it's also has it does not have any lanolin. So people that are sensitive to lanolin usually can use the other.
00:14:11
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the llama the llama yeah they they get it from two places the inner coat and the outer undercoat uh-huh the outer coat is coarse really coarse right it's that inner coat that's um soft soft of course there's also cotton you know um what i'm wondering about if any of the listeners out there know or you know i am all ears
00:14:36
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the sugar and cream cotton and different other cottons that we've used since we were kids to make washcloths out of or whatever placements. That is so stiff and yet you can go and get other brands that are soft. And I don't know if it's the processing? It's got to be the way they process because even dishy softer than sugar and cream. And one of my girlfriends, one of my really good girlfriends is a cotton dyer.
00:15:02
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And that's all, you know, she's got all sorts of cotton blends and cotton, cotton and organic cotton. And what did she just she got a sparkle something for her, one of her
00:15:15
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later in the year boxes. I think it was her Halloween box that she got it for. And so she could probably speak to it a lot better, but it's got to be the way that it's processed because sugar and cream is so rough. Stiff. Yeah. Here's the thing. There's American cotton, Egyptian cotton, which is more expensive and it's made with the soft, smooth texture and long fibers. Standard cotton is made with mid-length fibers and a huge variety of colors. And there's Pima, which I adore.
00:15:44
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Pima is a middle ground between American and Egyptian. Yeah, Pima is what I usually work with. Yeah, Pima, I make a lot of cowls out of Pima and stuff like that that's close to your skin because it's soft. Yeah. And then of course we have the silk that is absolutely stunning to work with. It's smooth. I love silk yarn, but I do usually hold it with something else. Not all the time, depends on what I'm making.
00:16:11
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And then, of course, there's linen and flax. There's bamboo. These are all hemp. Hemp is the one that's kind of new to, well, it's not new, but it's new knowledge to a lot of people. It's really strong and durable. That's what a lot of people make bags now, like marker bags and wall hangings and things like that. So that's what makes hemp interesting for me. I love linen for garments because as you can wear it, it gets, you know,
00:16:38
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Yeah, I love linen because, you know, it softens as you wear it and wash it. And it's just so comfortable.
Synthetic Yarn Insights
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And my favorite scarves I made sitting in a hot bedroom in Texas, Houston was silk and I just are not silk linen. And it might have been a linen silk blend, I'm not sure. But it was so nice after I got it done. Yeah, it was. Yeah, I I've got a pair of linen pants. Well, actually, I've got several pairs of commercial linen pants that I've
00:17:08
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I bought big box stores because for work, because they're easy. And I'm wearing them the other day and somebody was like, I love your pants. And I was like, thanks. They're like 10 years old. Right. I just bought them. I just bought a pair of white ones to wear with an outfit that are top that I'm crocheting because I wanted to look fabulous. But you're going to look fabulous. You're the sparkle coordinator. Anyway.
00:17:30
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So that was all the animal and plant-based yarns, but we also have man-made yards, which are the synthetic type. So then we talk about acrylic, which is absolutely the most well-known, popular, probably most used yarn on the planet, I would think.
00:17:48
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And just to preface for our listeners, we are not bashing any yarn through any of this. This is just a knowledge base. We personally, and I'm pretty sure Lisa does the same thing. We all use all kinds of yarn depending on what our project takes and what we can pull off at that point in time and everything else. We do not hold any kind of preference to anything. And yes, we have our favorites, but I mean,
00:18:12
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But if I'm making a blanket for a baby that's gonna erp up all over it and have to be washed five times a day, it's gonna be out of acrylic. Something like steel, you know? I have, I'm not lying to you, I have an afkin that's in storage in another state right now.
00:18:28
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but that I got for my first wedding present from my best friend's mom. It was one of those ripple afghans in my colors back then. And it is still together. It is still used. I mean, and that was, I'm not even gonna tell you how long ago.
00:18:47
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I found when we went and cleaned out my grandmother's house when she passed away I opened up a box and there is a box of granny squares out of acrylic yarn that might I think my great grandmother started it.
00:19:02
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So I got to bring it home because I'm the crocheter in the family. So I'm gonna try that's it's I've got to find the box, of course, not only so where it went but right I want to keep working on that and the the colors still look phenomenal like that way. Yes It's never they don't know their color at all. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's you can wash it a hundred million times and it's just fine And it comes right back out the way it's supposed to it's good There was one a couple of tears in it where our dog got her nails hung up in it
00:19:32
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Yeah, and she kind of jerked it away and hurt her nail and it was bad. But other than that, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that thing and it's over 50 years old. So after acrylic, we have polyester and there's rayon, which is really cool. I like it when they put rayon in yarn as a blend because it makes a better drape.
00:19:56
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personal opinion. That's just what I think. Yeah. There's also nylon. Nylon is nice because it gives that bounce and it gives the rebound. This is really good for socks that people may not have. And super good for cables. Cable knitting? Cables, yes. I didn't even think about cables. Super good with cables. And they just pop right out of there. Yeah, yeah. Cables would be good. And I would think, I would actually use it for hats too. Yes. So that the hat will bounce back and it will keep its sizing and its shape correct. Yes.
00:20:24
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away because you know when you wear something especially a hat or something like that over time it'll start stretching i would actually use a hat i would use nylon and a hat too i just am using a yarn right now from i'm not going to say who but it's um 50 acrylic 25 polyester and 25 rayon and i have used it before and it it's like a merino
00:20:48
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the wool part is merino and i have used it before and the cables just pop like crazy while i'm making a sweater with it now that it's just amazing the drape that it's getting in it is it good yeah i'll have to see that when you're done with it really well anyway and we always talk about different yarns like the specialty yarns and the novelty yarns a lot of them come in and out of trend
00:21:12
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They really do. Ribbon yarn. Now, self striping yarn is not a trend at all. Self striping yarn is always great because you don't have to think about it. And like for baby knitters like me, it's great because it just changes the colors and you don't have to worry about trying to weave in your ends or join your ends or anything. I love self striping yarn.
00:21:30
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Yes, I love it all the time, every day and then on Sundays, twice on Sundays. But then there's boucle yarn, which I despise, but that's just a personal thing. Chenille, marled faux fur, variegated yarns, thick thin yarns, tweed, heather, and just the heather yarns are really pretty. They are really pretty. Erin, wait, you know, you make a sweater or a vest or something out of them. I have a friend, one of my friends that I've mentioned in their previous episode,
00:21:59
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that dies, Krista, she just did a white tweed line, not too long ago. Oh, it was spectacular. Like everything was just gorgeous. And then Chanel, I have a sweater that I got some Chanel yarn.
00:22:17
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I think I got it on sale at one of the big box stores and I made a sweater out of that. Let me tell you what, I wore the crap out of that for two years and I made it a split hem tunic and it goes well down below my butt and I pulled it out to wear it this year and it is pulling apart and I was just like, you've got to be kidding me.
00:22:39
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Well, if your dire spinner friend wants anybody to make, I have a car coat pattern that I've wanted to use for years and I want to make it winter white, but a winter tweed would be great too. That would be pretty. So here's some questions you want to ask yourself about what kind of yarn you want to be using for your project. Let's have it. Especially if you're going to trade Z's. Do the whole, oh, I can't afford that, or I don't want to use that color. Yeah, substitutions.
00:23:06
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So when will you wear the final item? Do you want it to be warm and cozy or cool and breathable? Truth. Or do you live in Florida or do you live in Alaska?
00:23:17
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Yep. Or do you live in Texas in the summer or Texas in the winter? Because those are two very different climates, let me tell you. Portland is pretty much the same all the time. Well, at least we don't get a ton of snow. Maybe I need to come visit and get some cool air then. Seriously. Or what texture do you want your final garment or outfit or project to be? Does it need to be smooth and durable or soft and fluffy?
00:23:41
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I have a friend right now who's using this really cool thick and thin yarn for a baby blanket. And she made the star blanket. It is so cute and it's so weird. She said she could use it as a blanket, as a wall hanging, or basically as a rug. It's that versatile. It's amazing. Do you need the final item to be hand washed or machine washed?
00:24:07
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That is a huge thing right there that a lot of people don't think about is how to wash and care for the yarn because a lot of yarns need to lay flat to dry because otherwise they're going to lose their shape. You're going to lose the detailing of whether it's cables, lace, whatever it is. Right. And then, you know, like we were talking acrylic, you can just throw that in the washer and dryer and away you go.
00:24:28
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Well, here's a tip that I'm sure a lot of our listeners know about, maybe you do too, but I was taught years ago that to save at least one
Choosing the Right Yarn
00:24:38
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ball band, I save all of them for a very altruistic reason, but save a ball band. And if you're gifting it to somebody like a baby shower or a wedding shower or a birthday gift, Christmas, whatever, you slip that ball band in with it and circle the yarn direction.
00:24:53
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Yeah, I actually have cut out the yarn care on there and put it on put it on the ribbon. Yep, exactly. Good idea. That's cute. I like that. Yeah, because they're not going to know about the rest of it. And they're not really going to care about the rest. No, they just need the yarn care part. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I just toss it in there. Okay, a couple of more things to to contemplate before you make something. Is the final item designed to be worn by a baby or someone with sensitive skin?
00:25:21
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You want to go with something maybe softer or less caustic. What color will the knitted item be and how much do you want to spend on your yarn?
00:25:33
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Those are very important considerations, and there are many others too. Can you think of any? There's a ton, but those are all the really good ones right off the top to consider the help you decide what you're doing. I know there are a few yarns that I use, especially when I crochet, that if I don't have the correct gauge or if I'm crocheting a little tighter, it hurts my hands with that kind of yarn. So I have to kind of stay away from that.
00:26:00
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I have that problem with fingering weight. Fingering weight starts to hurt my hands. I don't typically stitch with anything smaller than Erin or DK because the way that I hold for tensioning, it actually starts to get my cramp my hands and I have to take more breaks than I would with a thicker yarn.
00:26:22
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Huh. Well, one of the things that this site has is a yarn name, a fiber type, and a description. It's a yarn type comparison chart. I like it. And it's very, very, very, very good. As far as, like I said, knittingknowledge.com. Knittingknowledge.com. That's going to be a good website. I'm going to have to bookmark that one. Yeah. I haven't looked through a lot of the rest of the other ones because we put this together kind of on the fly in less than 12 hours. I mean, look.
00:26:48
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Yeah that's actually a lot of good information though for what you did come up with. But that was just the basics. One of the ones that I'll throw out there for our listeners that they may or may not know for as far as substitutions if they have like a specific band or a specific yarn brand or information and they would just want something that will substitute easily for that. So we were talking about wool at the end use earlier. Right.
00:27:17
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They can actually go to yarnsub.com and we'll put that in the show notes too. And you can throw that name of that yarn in there and it will give you a list of yarns. And it will give you a percentage of how close it is to the yarn you use. Correct. I've used that before. And what's different? All the fiber's different, so make sure you gauge it. Or the yardage is different per band or whatever.
00:27:43
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That's actually one of my go-tos for figuring out substitutions, especially with helping my designer substitute yarn, is that site specifically. But I'm going to have to check out knitting knowledge. I don't think enough people know about that yarn sub. I have used it off and on for years. I use that website all the time. It's actually one of my bookmark sites for when I'm doing edits, so that I can help give suggestions on, hey, you may want to think about this.
00:28:12
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Hey, let's talk about this for a substitution or something. And like yarns that get discontinued, they've got discontinued yarns in there. Um, like, so, um, so one of the yarns that you and I were talking about the other day that's discontinued is Lion Brands easy twist. Yeah. It's just continued now. And, um, it's got a couple of options in there.
00:28:38
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first substitutions. There's not a lot because I know you're going to conquer that next, but it does have discontinued yarns in there. So if you have you or somebody else has an old, you know, skein of yarn or somebody gifts you, Hey, this is laying around the house. Here's a free, you know, screech, free skein of yarn. And you're like, well crap, what do I do with this? What do I combine it? Yeah. So
00:29:04
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Yeah, it's actually a really good site to find something similar or something to substitute. Yeah, it's one of my favorites. I know that the dreaded mystery yarn when the ball band is gone. That's the worst thing. Because you're going to lead this guess. Yes, and you're like, what is in here? What am I supposed to do with this? Right. Oh, it's worsted. Oh, good. That helps. Yeah.
00:29:29
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It's worth it. Okay, let's find something, you know, find an easy pattern we can do this with. Yeah, let's go. Two more sources before I talk about ply. I am also a spinner, as is Lisa. And one of the things you learn as a spinner is twists and ply. And I think as if knitters had more knowledge on that, they would be much happier with their finished garments, and it wouldn't end up in the bottom of a drawer or the back of a closet.
00:29:55
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So I would encourage as many, especially designers out there that could, to just get a cursive knowledge about it. You know, I'm not shaking my finger and say they have to. It's just, it helps me a lot. And there's a couple of books, and I mention spinners because one of them is about spinners. It's the Spinners Book of Yarn Designs, and it's by Sarah Anderson. And it's a really pretty book on top of it. It has pretty pictures. I mean, look.
00:30:23
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right um and then the other one that had it just has some helpful graphs it's an older book god knows i probably bought it in an older bookstore oh yeah i got it at goodwill i mean look goodwill's got some good stuff i haven't even looked at the copyright on it it's called all about knitting and it looks like a compendium like there are several other authors that contributed to it but it has and i'm only showing this to you it has see these pictures
00:30:51
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like what it's got pictures of like what the fibers look like that's cool yeah and then we've got a video up between the two of us so that we actually see each other while we're talking and we're not talking to you know right it makes it easier facial cues facial cues that's why the whole mask thing just almost destroyed me anyway um so as far as the s and the z twist how this one author explained it in her book is she said
00:31:19
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spinners we we spin we might spin four individual the basically the same size strands of yarn okay into balls and then we're going to ply them together which means we're going to twist them together okay so you're going to take four strands and make them one right exactly okay and if you twist all of those strands four strands together to the right that is called an S twist okay if you twist them to the left
00:31:47
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That is a Z twist. Now, why are they called S and Z? I don't know. I got you on this one. Okay. I knew this one. Oh, good. Because I actually had, I got confused and I actually had to look it up. See, together we were wondering. So the reason that if you, if you twist it to the right, it's called an S twist is because if you look at the twist a little bit looser, it actually forms the S. Okay. And then if you twist it to the left, it looks like a Z.
00:32:13
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Well, and when you're spinning fast, like I have a production spinner wheel that I can really fast on. I guess I never really stopped to look at it. I should have. And I have a little thing that hangs on the side of my spinning wheel that tells me the size of each one of my twists. You know, do I want it this size, you know, the lace weight, do I want it for DK weight, you know, that kind of thing. Right. But also,
00:32:37
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As a spinner, I can spin each individual one S, but then I can ply it Z, and it is still good for crocheters. I bet that comes out really cool. It's wonderful.
00:32:55
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It's just, I love doing it that way. Because it's got a core of strength with the S, because the Z tends to rat back on itself when you're spinning it. So I know that commercial yarn makers are all, I can honestly say, with the exception of the one we mentioned yesterday, all commercial yarn is S twist.
00:33:18
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Yeah I know of one Z twist yarn still and then the one that's discontinued so there's only one active line of Z twist everything else is S twist and that's why and if you're a crocheter and you have an issue with your yarn splitting that would be why is because it's an S twist and S twist is way more
00:33:41
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compatible to knitting knitting. Yes, because when we knit, our needle takes it the same way as the twist. As we crochet it, it's going in the opposite direction. Yeah, that's always exactly because we're kind of untwined, unplying untwisting. Exactly. Yeah. Whereas with the Z twist, it works. It's more compatible with crocheting because we are working with the ply instead of against it. Kind of like a green.
00:34:06
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you know, working against a grain or with, yeah, against the grain and with the grain. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And that was something that somebody didn't realize. And I wish as a, as a crocheter, I wish there were more commercial Z brain yarn or Z twist yarns. Like I just, I was rushed when I found out that lion brand discontinued their, their Z twist. There's easy twist because that was just my absolute favorite.
00:34:35
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All right, Miss Denise. So I will make sure that whims makes it to our, well, whims is the, the name brand of that Z twist that we were talking about y'all. We will have a link to that. It is a non-affiliated link. I was just going to say we are not sponsored by any yarn or correct. We are not sponsored. We are not affiliated. Nothing. Um, you may check with things we know about.
00:34:58
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You may check with some of your friends, some of your maker friends, because they may be affiliated with the company that produces whims. And if they are, I'm sure they would appreciate any couple pennies that can come off of your sale, because it's no extra money out of your pocket if you use their affiliated link.
00:35:17
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That's neither here nor there. I just wanted to make sure y'all knew it was a non-affiliated link. It's just a general information link. Exactly. So what you got next for us on the learning, learning parade today, Ms. Miss Deese. Well, let's talk about our second most important tool that we have in our little treasure chest.
Needle and Hook Varieties
00:35:34
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That would be needles and hooks. Oh my. Oh my. Exactly. That's how it works. Exactly. So,
00:35:44
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We all have our preferences. We do. And what's funny is I don't think a lot of us, especially me when I learned this, knew I had a preference for a certain reason. Correct. It was actually, there are, let's just go over and you throw in if I don't have all of them. Different types of hooks.
00:36:03
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the head of the hook to the small base or the whole thing or the needles, the points and down as far as they can or the whole thing. Correct. They can be either wood, bamboo, plastic, nickel, steel, chrome, aluminum, resin, acrylic.
00:36:29
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And I think and a combination of any of the above. Yeah, I do. I know that there are some custom makers, especially custom hook makers. I don't think there's custom needle makers. Well, no, there's going to be there's going to be some out of wood. And I'm sure somebody out of resin probably, but I've seen they'll make like these really beautiful intricate handles and then they will use metal tips and they'll use like a standard metal tip or whatever. But
00:36:57
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Yeah, or there's a combination thereof, you know, where I think the most common one I have seen has been a metal tip hook with a plastic or some sort of an ergonomic handle.
00:37:13
Speaker
Yes. So ergonomic isn't necessarily a hook style. Well, it's a hook style, but it's not a crochet head style. It's a base of the hook style. It's where you hold it. Yeah, because I have to use ergonomic because of my carpal tunnel. Because my day job, I do a lot of typing. So I do better
00:37:38
Speaker
I do better to have an ergonomic or a bigger handle on the hook, especially the smaller the size of the hook.
00:37:48
Speaker
Definitely. I have noticed that with a smaller sized hooks. I feel better with a larger grip Yeah, it gives me a little bit more control over Even the yarn, you know as it's going through the hook kind of thing Yeah, I have noticed that just recently which yeah and so one of the things that and I don't know if it's on your list there talking about the different
00:38:12
Speaker
types everybody will have a preference you may not know it like she said you're gonna have to try a couple of different kinds and big box stores galore can help you with that for sure here's here's my story short and sweet um i prefer chrome
00:38:30
Speaker
or even aluminum knitting whether the tips are that way on cables or whether it's the whole, you know, straights. But I didn't know why I preferred those until I was trying to do a pair of socks on plastic.
00:38:47
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There was a brand of plastic needle that was very popular about a year or two ago and my local yarn shop that I prefer in the area here actually out on the coast, she really really tried to convince me to use this and I did and I got about halfway through a hat before I wanted to throw it. Well plastic
00:39:07
Speaker
or resin even tends to be stickier. It holds the stitches to the needle, whereas I tell it doesn't move as easily on the needle. Correct. I'm a very fast knitter, especially if I'm doing nothing but knit, knit, knit, knit and hat. And that's what it was. It was just a hat knit all the way around.
00:39:27
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you know and I just I can do that watching TV you know basically yeah just like a million miles an hour but it was making me slow down and it was making me mad oh that can that frustrating for sure yeah well that was when I realized oh well that's why now not for all projects now if I'm doing a lace say in like a cashmere
00:39:48
Speaker
or cables even in worsted maybe just acrylic even. I'm gonna want something stickier so those things don't just drop off. Yeah so they don't go flying off the needle. I hate dropping stitches like that. I know I have one of the most frustrating things
00:40:08
Speaker
that I have won at a yarn shop thing. And it's about this, you know, it's maybe four inches long for the listeners that can't see my fingers. But about four inches long, it looks like a miniature crochet hook. It's a knitting hook on one end and a crochet hook on the top. And I don't know what it's called, but I love that thing. If I ever lose it, I'm gonna have to hurt somebody.
00:40:28
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I mean, I've seen them recently. I think I've seen it recently at Joann's. They come in a kit with things too. Some of them do, yeah. Some of them are singles and some of them come in the kits. But it's funny that you're talking about your preference for knitting needles. So my preference for crochet is I have to have not only an ergonomic handle, but my handle has to be something non-metal.
00:40:56
Speaker
because the metal actually pulls the heat from my hands and makes my fingertips go numb and kicks my arthritis in so that I can't work. It hurts so badly, so badly. So yeah, I have to use, that's when I got onto the combination handles where a metal tip and a grip handle or the ergonomic hooks, that's when I got into that was when I discovered I had that problem.
00:41:24
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Well, that would be good for listeners who have any kind of like arthritis or purple tunnel or any kind of dexterity issues. Correct. Yeah. I was very hesitant when I started knitting to try metal needles. I kept trying to use wood and I discovered that the
00:41:45
Speaker
Because the yarn overlays the needle when you're knitting because everything I've done has been in the round I have are on circular needles. I don't I don't use straight needles Because everything overlays the needle I don't have the same problem with knitting needles that I do with crochet hooks because yarn acts as a barrier
00:42:08
Speaker
Now what's funny is I have some straight needles that people have gifted me and they're beautiful. They're like pieces of art. And the wood, the only one that wood that I like is a polished wood.
00:42:22
Speaker
So it's slicker. It's not just the woodwood that you pick up at the big box stores or the bamboo that you pick up at the big box stores where it doesn't have a coating on it. This has like a finish on it that makes them go faster too. Oh, I can see that being really nice. There are also those available. I can't remember. Yeah, I can see that being really, really nice.
00:42:41
Speaker
So, but also, okay, so we're talking about grips. I know that there are the ergonomic grips, but there are ones that are just decorative that I have. There's a couple that I've come to love. And this was something my husband bought me for Christmas one year online. I don't even know how he came across it.
00:42:57
Speaker
and they look like old-fashioned hairpins and they're crochet hooks but the way they're shaped happened to fit I have tiny tiny tiny hands right so they fit my hand just perfectly and I'm just gonna go to town on that and yeah so you might want to play around with different
00:43:15
Speaker
Yeah, I don't always just stick with one, you know. Yeah, definitely get out of your box and find find something else and try something else because you never know what's going to be more comfortable. Well, let's talk about the bugaboo out there with our circular needles, cables, the cables that attach them. Yes, the connectors and all that. Yes, I personally have never had a lick of trouble with any of my interchangeables that I have. I have two sets, two full sets.
00:43:44
Speaker
And then I have some haphazard things here and there. And I know that one brands that you can find at big box stores, cable, fit another online brand only needle. I know that too.
00:43:56
Speaker
but some of them are just so stiff and it's really hard to work if you have some of them can be really hard to work with even if they're fixed you know they're not interchangeable even if they're fixed yeah i think people doesn't move again you have to supple right exactly again you have to work with you know experiment here and there yeah now i have my favorite and um i'm just going to tell you right now it is i wrote it down
00:44:24
Speaker
nylon coated multi-strand steel cable. It doesn't not, it just does whatever you want it to do. It has no memory because the other plastic cables have what they call memory.
00:44:41
Speaker
And I was unaware of that. So that all makes perfect sense to me as a knitter who's been doing this for a lot of years. Yeah. Because it was so frustrating sometimes. It was like you were always fighting that cable to get out of your way. Yeah. Or would flip up where you were. Yeah, I would flip up. Yeah. So I've had that problem where I've had a cable move on me. And I'm like, what are
Knitting Techniques and Tools
00:45:04
Speaker
you doing? Like, I don't understand. I know. Yeah. Cable memory would make sense though, or plastic memory.
00:45:10
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's what it is. And then there's always the little discussions that people have amongst themselves. So straights versus circs, you know, circulars, which do you prefer? I use circulars all the time, even when it calls for straights, because it's easier for my wrists. I have arthritis also. I've discovered that same thing as I've been using circs for everything.
00:45:33
Speaker
I've never actually used straight needles. I've got some that somebody gifted me from somewhere I don't know where. The circulars, I have been able to master and handle a lot easier. You're right. They help with my wrist and dexterity.
00:45:55
Speaker
But then the DPNs, the double pointed needles. Terrifying the crap out of me. Oh, that I was probably 10 years old when I learned to knit my first pair of mittens on DPNs. Oh, wow. Yeah, so to me, but they have them in bamboo and wood and metal and plastic and all the other kind of I've seen them in all sorts of materials. And I tried, I tried to start an advent. There's one of the many
00:46:24
Speaker
of the patterns that was written for Advent, you know, holiday Advent and stuff. Um, and I found one that's just different squares and I fell in love with it. Yeah. Bought the pattern, looked at the pattern. First thing it says is you have to start this with DPNs. And I was like, well, there I go. Nevermind. Add in that file over there. But the one thing about DPNs that it's comforting to me is
00:46:48
Speaker
Um, many people use the little nine inch darling needles or whatever they're called for socks and hat, maybe hats and things like that. But those hurt my hands to work with. And I've heard I'm on their group and I've seen a lot of people, as many people that love them that say that they've tried them, honestly tried them and it hurts their hands.
00:47:10
Speaker
And the same is with me. So when I finish a hat, I can just put it on the double pointed needles in wood and I'm not gonna lose those stitches. And it's good to go. So that's a lot of information that you probably didn't even really need to know. My mom's got a set of short tips for her interchangeable serks. She's got a set of short tips that I used for the last thing that I needed some small work done on. And those were super comfortable to use.
00:47:39
Speaker
So that was a different thing. Let me ask you a quick question here. Just knitter to crochet or to crochet or to knitter because I do both and I know you're doing both now. Yeah. You know how sometimes we've talked about this before. My crochet hooks go walk about just for whatever reason. Oh, I have to find whatever I have before I can get to the store. Right.
00:48:00
Speaker
knitting is the same same thing because we have two of them you know likelihood of losing them is more that's the other reason why i use circs is so that i don't lose the other right exactly but i have heard and seen in discussion groups where people have said oh i lost my my whatever my metal hook and i just had this wooden one hanging around and i started using it but now my work looks different
00:48:25
Speaker
Have you found that to be true? Yes, 100% true. I have actually had that problem where I did the same thing. One of my hooks went walking in the middle of a project, and I was like, well, here's the same size. Let's try something else. I think I went from metal to, what did I do, metal to acrylic, I think, or metal to metal. I think it was metal to acrylic, I think is what I did, because I wasn't using my acrylics that much at that time.
00:48:53
Speaker
And yeah, the work was completely different and I had to pull it all apart and start all over from where it changed out. Okay, so it's true with crochet. I mean, I don't think I've ever done that with crochet enough for it to be noticeable. But in knit, it really does make a difference. Yeah, I've noticed it. I haven't done it with knitting because I've only completed a couple of projects.
00:49:16
Speaker
But with crochet, I have had that problem where I was like, oh, I guess I'm going to the store tomorrow when it opens because I need to replace this hook like right now. So yeah.
00:49:27
Speaker
Yeah, okay. I think that a word of warning for the listeners, especially if they're new, that it can make a difference in the look of your shirt. It can make a difference. Especially if it's something you're wearing. You might as well go ahead and make peace with yourself now that you're going to end up having multiple sizes. Exactly. Especially once you find your preferred hook style.
00:49:48
Speaker
Um, you were going to have multiples of just about everything that you have in there. Um, you know, you'll have a complete set of hooks in one, you know, one size and then, or in one brand, and then you're going to have a half set and another brand and then, oh, wait, here's doubles of the first brand. And yeah, just make peace. You're going to have a coffee mug full of hooks at some point. Like it's just, it's, yeah, that's what mine.
00:50:11
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I've got a coffee mug over here that I broke the handle off of a couple of years ago. It's a hand thrown mug from one of my girlfriends. And yeah, it's my hook mug now. My needles are in my my straights anyway, or in a vase and my I show you what my hooks are in this little metal thing for a desk.
00:50:26
Speaker
With pencils, literally. Well, one of the things that would be fun, and I don't think we have time for it today, but maybe sometime in the future, I think as much as Lisa and I covered what makes a good pattern for a designer, I think it would be helpful for the makers out there
00:50:47
Speaker
To go through a pattern step by step and what would you need to purchase for it? And what are you going to use this for? You know and that kind of thing. I think that at some point in time We might want to discuss that for sure and if somebody has any ideas for especially for that topic Make sure you throw them out to us so that we know right and also before I say my last little
00:51:09
Speaker
bit uh which is cute because a lot of people don't know all of it i think it's adorable but um do you have anything to add to any of the needle or hook situation no i don't think so like i said just make sure that you aren't afraid to try a different style even if you don't think you're gonna like it um because you will be very surprised like i was with my knitting needles
00:51:30
Speaker
I really didn't think I could use, I was insistent that I had to use wood and it was just, I was having the worst time with it and my mom's like here and tossed me a set of her metals and sure enough it was fine and I haven't had an issue with them since but I just have to be careful that I don't.
00:51:48
Speaker
Actually spend too much time on the metal itself. I think to a designer and I've designed crochet things Large projects, but not knit at all. I've had ideas in my head and I've written them out Well, I did one sweater. Yeah. Yeah, I guess I did but I think it would help designers especially when they're designing toward that Maybe easy easy pattern kind of to think about those things too, you know, like what kind of
00:52:16
Speaker
As you, as a new knitter, you were using wood to start with, you said? Yeah. I think that gives a lot of control. But also, like you said, it can be frustrating. Yeah, I don't remember what the problem I was having. I think it was the yarn-wood combination that I was using. Yes, I was just going to say it depends on the wood fiber. Yeah, I think it was the fiber I was using that I ended up having the issue with.
00:52:42
Speaker
I ended up switching over to metal and I was just fine, so I was just like great, okay. Learn, learn, learn. If we quit learning, that's a bad thing. Yeah, you're
Knitting Slang and Humor
00:52:52
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always learning and you're always finding what makes your happy medium and such.
00:52:57
Speaker
Well, I'm going to finish us off here because it's been a while with a list of knitters slang. Oh, this is always fun. It is. This is, and probably most of them know it, but this is knitters terminology that a lot of newbies I have found in some of my knitting groups are not aware of, especially frogging. Poor, this one little girl, she's like, I don't know what you're talking about when you say frog. Do I have to make a certain sound or something? It was just so sweet, you know?
00:53:24
Speaker
My husband looked at me the first time my mom and I were talking about it because I didn't have anybody to talk crafting with at home in Florida. So when we moved out here and we were, you know, my mom and I were sitting there talking crafting, he was so confused when we started talking about frogging. He's like, what are you talking about? I said, you know, when I take it apart, he's like, yeah. And I said, it's called frogging. And he's like, why? And I was like, rip it, rip it. And he was like, oh,
00:53:54
Speaker
We're such creative people. And we're easily entertained. Yes, this is true. But this particular, I'm going to give credit to the people where I found it, this particular list I found at StitchAndUnwind.com. Okay. So it's online. You can reference it yourself if you want to hang it, you know.
00:54:13
Speaker
Oh, that's a frame. Yeah, it's cute. So cake. And a lot of people are very confused about yarn cakes, because they're looking for yarns made out of cake. Wouldn't that be? Yes. So but it is actually yarn wound onto us into a cylindrical shape or donut shape or whatever shape your thing goes. DPMs are double pointed needles. Yep. DS is your D-stache.
00:54:38
Speaker
Okay, I've never heard that one. Which is sell or trade unwanted yarn. Yeah. I've never heard DS as a D-stache, but I like it. There's EOR, which is every other round or every other row. And I have seen that in patterns. I've seen that one a little bit, yeah.
00:54:57
Speaker
Flashing, I don't know what this, I've never heard this one, but it says similar to pooling below, which they explain it in below, but it's more linear. It's like peaks and valleys instead of wavy, because pooling can tend to be wavy. F-O is a correct finished object. Frog, you already explained that. You did a wonderful job doing it. What is the frog pond?
00:55:25
Speaker
I would think it would be the pile of yarn that you've just ripped out. Yes, it's a storage place for the knitted items that are waiting to be frogged. That's the timeout corner, but I like frog pond better. My frog pond, no, my timeout corner is I'm still considering whether it needs to go to the frog pond or not. Okay. At that point, it's just been bad and it's being disciplined. I like it. I like it frog pond. I like that.
00:55:52
Speaker
FSOT, if you look on Ravelry, it's for sale or trade. Okay. They use that terminology a lot. Gifted, it just means the act of giving someone yarn or a garment or whatever. ISO. In search of? Correct. Like a certain kind of yarn or a certain kind of pattern you're looking for. Pattern, yeah. Or something, a person, maker or something, yeah. Okay, so there's K-A-L.
00:56:17
Speaker
Knit along. And then there's M-A-L. Make along, and there's also C-A-L, which is crochet along. Exactly. And those three are in here. I was like, what? But then there's also K-I-P. Do you know what that is? Knit in progress? Knit in public. Oh, OK. Yeah. Especially since once a year now, they all make a big deal. Yeah, once a year we do it, yeah. L-I-S. Local yarn store. Yes. What is a muggle?
00:56:46
Speaker
Muggle as in like Harry Potter muggle, like non-magical folk? Sort of, only they're non-nidders in our world. Oh, okay. Yeah, I've actually heard them refer. I live in Yarn Mecca, okay? The area of the country I live in right now, there is a, you couldn't swing a dead cat, as my daddies would say, and not hit a yarn store. So. All right. And they talk about muggles a lot. It's just terrible. That's funny. I've never heard it referred to that way. OTN?
00:57:17
Speaker
On the hook? Well, that's, that's OTH. Oh, on the needles. On the needles. Or off the needles. A lot of people say it's off the needles, but like it's on the needles. Okay. How many projects do you have OT in? I got you. You know, like if you're texting. PIF, which is weird, it's pay it forward, but I've never heard that used in the knitting context before. So that's a new one to me. Pooling.
00:57:43
Speaker
is when one color is in a variegated yarn, bunches together. And I know that people pull colors on purpose, and that is not a technique that I have ever attempted. I have not, either. R-A-K. Random act of kindness. OK.
00:58:04
Speaker
You know, like if you just give a small gift to a fellow knitter or send them a small little card, letting them know, oh, you're doing a good job. You know, that kind of thing. The yarn group I used to be part of in Northwest Indiana was very much like that. They were wonderful. I missed them. Do you know what Sable is? Mm-mm. OK. Stash acquisition beyond life expectancy.
00:58:33
Speaker
I like that. That's funny. Yeah, we talk about Sable a lot around here. I mean, look, I'm getting to that point, let me tell you. So sex is stash enhancement experience. It means buying yarn. Okay.
00:58:59
Speaker
Sure. And that's what they said here. I mean, it's on the list. I don't know if that's accurate, but it's on the list. Right. Do you know what to tink means? In knitting, it's a knitting phrase.
00:59:11
Speaker
Yeah, tinking is where you pull back, but you keep your stitches, like you're pulling each stitch apart to pick up the previous stitch so you don't drop them. Tink is knit actually spelled backwards. Okay. And before that phrase became popular, I always said, I'm knitting backwards.
00:59:31
Speaker
Okay. Which kind of is the same. Yeah, that actually, when you explain it that way, that's exactly what it is. But yeah, because you're just going backwards, you're taking a stitch off at a time. And hopefully you didn't have to go that whole 400 stitch row. Exactly. Do you know what a toad is? No. Toad is a trashed object abandoned in disgust. All right.
01:00:00
Speaker
I have one in my closet right now that put my back back out. So UFO. Unfinished object. Correct. Vanilla. The plane. An easy to read plane pattern. Exactly. Whether it's crochet or knit. Yep. WIP. A whip. Work in progress. Correct. What is yarn barf?
01:00:25
Speaker
When you try and center pull and the half of the skein comes out on the center pull. Exactly. I had a friend who absolutely refused to use anything even if it had a center pull because she was sick of that stuff. And she'd just take the band off of it and put it in a bowl and just go away. I know plenty of people who do that. I'm a center pull person all day long. Yep. And two more. Do you know what a yarny is?
01:00:50
Speaker
I would assume a yarn centered person. Yes, lover of all that is the glorious world of yarn. 100%. Exactly. And
01:01:01
Speaker
This is the funny one that it's not on this list, but I think it should be included, whoever these people have done that have done this. If you have your PhD, what do you have? projects have done. Correct. One time, funny story, and then we close this out. I was on a plane going to Texas, and a gentleman asked me with a cowboy hat and a big belt buckle on, what business are you in, little lady? And I said,
01:01:31
Speaker
I'm in plastics. He said, really? How do you do that? Because I had this really nice dress on, you know, that was back when we dressed when we traveled a long time ago. And I said, I lead a team of well-seasoned executives to become leaders in their field.
01:01:56
Speaker
He was just more impressed with me the whole flight. He bought me a drink. I didn't even drink at the time. I'm like, well, you can have this if you just get me a soda. And he was just impressed the heck out of him. And basically what I was is a Tupperware manager. I like it. So now I tell people I have my PhD. I have several PhDs, actually. Yeah, yeah. And they're like, oh.
01:02:21
Speaker
Yeah, I've got several PhDs hanging out too, so I can understand them. Yeah, exactly. You can hang them on the wall. No. That's funny. But I just thought that was a little lighter end to some stiff stuff. Well, that was a very educational hour, Miss Denise. I appreciate all that information and I'm sure some of our listeners will appreciate it as well.
01:02:44
Speaker
Well, even if all it does is make somebody look into it more in depth for themselves, there are a lot of things that I had never considered my first 25 or 30 years of knitting until I really, my kids got older and my baby finally got to the point where I didn't have to worry about sharp things.
01:03:02
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I could concentrate more on my craft. Yeah. And that's one of those things that I didn't actually start thinking about plies and twists and all of that until the last couple of years. And then especially getting into the editing where I was like, okay, what makes the difference? And yeah, finding people who spend, I could, I could sit and watch somebody spend all day long. I have no desire to do it myself, but I could watch it all day long. I love watching it.
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it is my zen it does the same thing to me it just puts me almost into a trance yeah and i i love watching it whether it's by hand with a drop spindle or on my my wheels yeah yeah i love watching people spin all day long i have no desire to do it i have no desire to learn it like that's one of i'll be honest that's one of those things that i just i don't i
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I have no time for it, but I will watch it all day long. Right? Go to sleep with it.
01:03:57
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Yeah, for sure. Well, man. This has been fun, girl, for me. It has. Ladies and gentlemen, you may now have to return your Tay tables to your upright positions and unfasten your seatbelt when the captain has turned off the fasten seatbelt sign. We hope this flight of chaos coordinated has, or the chaos train has been an entertaining and an informational ride.
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and be sure to tune in next time and keep giving good vibes to Lisa. Lisa needs all the good vibes she can get. So exactly. Y'all have a wonderful time and have a wonderful um day of the time of day whatever it is and may you have the day you deserve. Exactly. Love you Miss Denise. Okay. Love you too. See ya.
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Join Tiffany and Denise next time when they talk with Trish Hernacki, a knitwear designer from Indiana.
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