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Blackwater Holylight
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Blackwater Holylight, as the name suggests, is all about contrasts. It’s a fluid convergence of sound that’s heavy, psychedelic, melodic, terrifying and beautiful all at once.
As a heavy band, their songs aren’t anchored to riffs, but rather riffs come and go in waves that surface throughout the band’s meditative, entrancing songs. It’s a hypnotic sound, with orchestral structures that often build tension and intrigue before turning the song on its head — not by simply getting louder or heavier, nor by just layering elements. They expertly subvert the implied heaviness of a part, dissecting it and splaying the songs guts out to seep across the sonic spectrum.
Now, having toured together extensively following the band’s wildly-successful breakout self- titled debut in 2018, Blackwater Holylight has honed their sound and identity to a powerfully captivating beast. Their live set is all about the slow build, seeming to combine the melodic tension of early Sonic Youth crossed with the laconic fever-dream blues of the first Black Sabbath album, and wiry experimentation of post-punk and krautrock.
The lineup on the most recent album is Allison (Sunny) Faris (bass/vocals), Laura Hopkins (guitar/vocals) and Sarah McKenna (synths), with new guitarist Mikayla Mayhew and drummer Eliese Dorsay fleshing out their sound in exciting ways.
“The process of this album was vastly different from our first record,” says Faris. “One, because we recorded it over the course of a few weeks, whereas the first record was over the course of about a year. And two, this album was a true collaboration between the five of us. Each of us had extremely equal parts in writing and producing, we all bounced ideas off each together, and we all had a say in what was going on during every part of the process.”
“One of our favorite things about this album is that because it was so collaborative, we didn't compartmentalize ourselves into one vibe.” She continues. “It’s heavy, psychedelic, pop, shoegaze, doom, grunge, melodic and more. The whole process was extremely organic and natural for us, we were just being ourselves.”
Veils of Winter opens with fuzzed-drenched, drop-tuned bass and baritone guitar leading a dirge riff on “Seeping Secrets.” Faris’ lilting and funereal vocals drop in, adding to the mournful atmosphere until a short turnaround progression hints at changes to come, as Faris and Hopkins harmonize eerily and the tune suddenly turns into a krautrock charge. “Motorcycle” kicks off deceptively with a heavy grunge riff building up for about 40-seconds before the song abruptly shifts gears into a synth-led post-punk harmony, sounding something like Lush meets Syd Barrett era Pink Floyd. “Death Realms” is perhaps the poppiest track, based around soaring shoegaze guitars and interwoven light vocal harmonies. Soft piano notes, occasional woozy whammy bar dives and a driving tom-tom beat solidify its hooks. “Spiders” is a creepy- crawly guitar riff and counterpoint keys, while “Moonlit” explores prog-structures with a shredding guitar solo crescendo. The penultimate track, “Lullaby” is exactly that, a lulling, expansive tune exemplifying Blackwater Holylight’s genre smashing sound as it subtly moves across a vast sonic landscape atop a hypnotic 6/8 beat and repetitive 3-note motif. Throughout the album, their songs shirk traditional verse-chorus-verse structure in favor of fluid, serpentine compositions that move with commanding grace.
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Introduction to the Podcast
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are listening to Something Rather Than Nothing, creator and host Ken Vellante, editor and producer Peter Bauer. So this is Ken Vellante with the Something Rather Than Nothing podcast and I'm very excited to welcome some members of Blackwater Holy Light, which is a band
Meeting the Band: Blackwater Holy Light
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um I just love and I've been uh wanting to have on the podcast and really want to welcome you um uh Kayla, Sarah, and Sunny of Blackwater Holy Light to the Something Rather Than Nothing podcast. Yeah thank you so much for having us. Thank you. Thank you. Uh first of all what I was wondering if you could uh if you could tell us
Formation and Evolution of the Band
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Just about how Blackwater Holy Light came about. And I love that you're such an eclectic band. It's really talented and fun to see live and listen to your albums. How did it how did it all come about? Yeah, so the band started in we formed in 2016 in Portland, Oregon here and we started off as just
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a four piece me Sarah, a woman named Kat and a woman named Laura. And yeah, just kind of started as like a little kind of fun idea that I was having and then it kind of just turned into something a little bit more
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kind of first scene is like, oh, maybe we can go we can actually play shows and stuff. So we got a little set together and then chose like our name, finally, which took kind of a long time. And then just kind of like started like a lot of other, you know, bands do playing playing in basements and then kind of booking local shows and
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We had all been in other bands previously, um, in Portland. So we kind of had some, you know, connections in the scene and, um, knew how to book shows and all of that. So we kind of just sort of slid in and, um, yeah, just started just playing around town and then just kind of slowly grew from there. Yeah. And then thanks, thanks for that background.
Live Performance Memories
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Um, I know I had seen,
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seen you in in Eugene in Portland and actually I was on business travel and ended up seeing your show opened up for Mono Lord in Atlanta, Georgia. Oh, you did? Yeah, yeah, I was on business. I worked for a teacher's union was out there and I was like, this can't be true. That was a fun show. That's when it was super cold. Yeah, it was freezing. Like 20 something degrees. Yeah, it was really cold.
00:02:59
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You probably had the same experience I had. I've been to Savannah, Georgia. I've never been to Atlanta, so I'm like...
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You know, Hotlanta, here we come, doesn't matter what time of the year it is in 25 degrees or so. Hell of a show, hell of a show.
Exploring Artistic Interests
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So what about, one of the things I ask about, this podcast is kind of like a lot of different forms of art and, you know, the musicians and painters and sculptors and documentary filmmakers.
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For you in the band, maybe all of you just want to kind of chime in, what type of arts do you enjoy to consume in art and make outside of your various musical projects? She wants to start. Yeah, for me, I obviously enjoy music, but also visual art.
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music videos and seeing how artists like can include visuals to go like along with the music and that's like something especially like during these times when no one can go see live shows just like just been like watching a lot of music videos and it's really cool to see the animals incorporated with that. Yeah same I love visuals but
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Actually, I've been really enjoying watching dance videos, just people dance in general. There was never one that was into ballet when I was younger, and now I'm obsessed with it. Yeah. Just so it's such a beautiful form of expression. Yeah. Yeah, I'm kind of on the same page as Michaela and Sarah. I love visual stuff. I've always had a soft spot in my heart for film photography and
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you know just like more analog photography and also with Sarah I love watching people dance ballet all kinds of dance I suppose is really fun but it's also I mean I guess you can kind of say that about any type of arts like you know if you see someone making their craft in front of you and just loving it that kind of just makes you love it too a bit but yeah been watching lots of movies
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Yeah, I definitely share a lot of that. And one of the things I enjoy about each of the band members, because I follow both your separate projects and a lot of things you create, I could definitely tell that about the band. And I enjoy that vibrant, even just music videos. Sometimes it seems strange to bring it up. And I've seen a couple of your videos, and I remember one of them was kind of like this.
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Dark kind of like murder or horror one. It was just I loved it so much. I forget for which song it was it was Yeah, that video was funny because we made it on Valentine's Day A few years ago and it was like snowy and cold
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We were just having fun being, making a casual murder video together on Valentine's Day. I think that was fun with that too. We didn't have a script for it. Yeah, we just sort of figured it out. Yeah, I would even think there was a general idea. No, nothing. Just kind of came to fruition. Yeah, like that. Yeah, it was fun. That was awesome.
00:06:34
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I wouldn't have guessed that. Wow, it's pretty good how it came about organically. But yeah, I love those video accompaniments. I just recently did a documentary film class for the first time in my life. And it was really fascinating to see how difficult it was to kind of combine elements of sound, music, and visuals to kind of accentuate each one if you do it well.
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And I'm sure you went through that process and creating that, but it was, it was noticeable. And I think metal has a special role where you can use some visuals and metal that just, just make the point that just you put that exclamation point on there.
00:07:20
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Um, so yeah, well, thanks. Thanks. Thanks for that. Um, so, um, I asked, you know, this is, uh, the podcast itself is, you know, intended to be a lot of fun around some difficult questions.
Art as Vulnerability and Expression
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And one of the big questions I have, uh, and I'd like to bring attention to is what is art? And I was wondering if, uh, if any of you wanted to just kind of take a stab at that type of discussion, what, what you think art is. I really liked, um,
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when you send the questions that you're going to be going over. I really loved this one because it's a hard question. Um, and I also appreciate you asking questions that are kind of outside of the normal, normal interviews. So to me, I really feel like art like is vulnerability in a lot of ways. It is completely vulnerability arts. Love, love is also vulnerability to me, but it is, it's an outlet that people get to put,
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get to express themselves in a way that they don't get to do on a daily basis to the really obvious public eye. And it's kind of tapping into a part of yourself and putting out into the world, you know, like, this is me. This is what I have to say. This is something that I stand for. These are my values. And I'm going to express my values through this visual or this sound. And I think that
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for a lot of folks that can be really hard, you know, because you're kind of, you're putting yourself out on the line and you're saying like, you know, I'm in the ring. I'm here. Everyone's looking at me, you know, but you choose to do it anyways. So it's, I think that it's like this really kind of can be a sort of a fragile thing because it's so personal and so public and, um,
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Yeah, it can be scary, but it's also like completely fulfilling. And I think that the scary and the fulfilling parts are what kind of make it also like the love factor to where these things are all kind of intertwined. And I don't really think that they can exist without each other. I guess is my answer. Beautiful words like wow. Yeah, like,
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to add onto that, it's also just kind of like, can be a stamp and like a moment in time. Like it's something you can look back on, like, you know, art you made years ago and it's like, just reflects like how you were feeling at that time and like, in which ways you were vulnerable and like, wanted to put yourself out there. And where your life is like, it's good. Yeah, it's also extremely therapeutic, I think. Yeah, I know for me personally, like,
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For me, I think it's just a way of getting my internal fear and anxiety out and playing it on any type of instrument. Honestly, even if I'm terrible at it, but just releasing that. And it's just a extra prize to be able to have someone else here. It's terrifying, but yeah. Yeah.
00:10:34
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Is there, is there, and not to jump in, I mean, there's some great, great thoughts that you have. Is there, as far as the piece where like you're processing stuff out, you know, I'm a metal fan. Now I don't play an instrument, but I adore metal.
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And for me, it's that kind of like really burning out and getting out a lot of strange energies. You know, I guess maybe that's the best way I can put it, but. Strange energies is definitely the way. That's a new, that's a new biennium. You got enough side products to use strange energies. That's fine. We'll start it up.
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Well, you know, does it do that for you? I mean, play in a metal. I mean, metal seems to me like I always talk about metal crowds when I when I have a metal show on the podcast. And it's like this kind of like shared communion and with the band. And it's not always like that. Sometimes it's messier than that. But what is it meant for you to for your art that you perform to be metal? And what does it do for you when you play and experience the show?
00:11:44
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Oh, God. Yeah, like I don't think we ever like write stuff, at least not me, like putting it out there like, oh, this is going to be metal. It's just like putting out like, you know, what we're feeling. And it just ends up being heavy because, you know, life is heavy and like the things that we go through are heavy. And but yeah, especially like playing shows.
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I sometimes say like, oh, like just playing a show is cheaper than going to therapy. Yeah. I like that. It's true. Yeah. It's just definitely getting to release all that, like all that energy you have like pent up, all that anxiety kind of just like goes away when you're playing. Yeah. It like doesn't, it doesn't. Sometimes it makes it way worse, but like once you start, it's always.
00:12:43
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I like that playing a show is cheaper than therapy. Yeah, it's true. I definitely see it in those terms and I'm always fascinated on the performer side is, you know, like,
00:13:00
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how that works out for you. And one of the things I wanted to ask in general, and I'm talking about some of the energy and some of the things we can or can't do now within a pandemic. One of the questions I've had is, and it's really connected to the pandemic, and I'll explain why. Because the last show that I saw was your show in Eugene with
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Coyote. And yes, so like I interviewed Sarah Bilt for the for the podcast and like I just had this connection because I love that show so much and I love how the show because of the different influences and styles within Blackwater Holy Light but also within Coyote it was interesting to be at a show and be like okay this seems like like a soul blues metal you know.
00:13:54
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Oh, she was lovely to talk to as well. Stylistically, it was you, I think Blackwater Holy Light.
00:14:04
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means that the table and I have been saying metal but of course you're more than a metal band and I saw in the show one time in Atlanta you had a show I mean it was definitely a metal show but there was one song he played that had a little bit more of a pop like appeal to it and I saw when you were playing you looked over at each other and you kind of indicated each other okay they're buying this this is cool
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That's awesome. I saw you look around and being like, okay, we're in Atlanta. There's supposed to be metal. This is metal in our book, but it's kind of fun. Personally, I think we have a lot of not metal moments in our music. Honestly, when people kind of ask about the band, they're like, oh, really generic. What kind of music do you play? I always say heavy psych because I don't even really feel like we're like medley enough to be classified as metal.
00:14:59
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but we're just like, we do have heavy moments. And I don't know, I guess sometimes we're kind of doomy, but, um, but yeah, I don't know. I guess it's just sort of everyone's opinion on that, on that front. We all listen to different types of music. Yeah. Like some of us listen to the others listen to jazz. Yeah. Yeah. We're all over the place. Like I think, yeah, like we're, yeah, we're all, we're all,
00:15:27
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have a very eclectic taste in music and we all kind of have our our favorites are all very different from each other although they do there's lots of inter intersections there as well with our music that we like but yeah that's cool too though seeing even on that I enjoyed it not just that old people who specifically like that sounds pretty universal sound i think we get some folks that listen to all types yeah
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Yeah, it's cool. Like that Montelord tour was awesome because it did draw obviously like a huge metal crowd because because that's what Montelord is. But then it was fun to have us there too, because yeah, like Sarah said, it kind of drew in some other folks. And I don't know, it's I think maybe for some people, they're like, oh, I never would have gone to see Blackwater Holy Light on their own or I never would have gone to see Montelord on their own. But it's cool seeing both and seeing all these people that are kind of like in this
00:16:25
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Maybe new, maybe familiar, maybe kind of a little bit of both territory. But I think we're talking about Death Realms. It's like this really shoegacy song that we have that's always just. Or lullaby. Right. I don't know. Yeah, now we're like naming them all up. I fucking know. But I'm supposed to curse. Well, I amongst the crowd there, like in Mano Lorde, because I was amongst the crowd, I mean, like,
00:16:54
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the whole crowd like adored you and I'm sure you probably picked up on some of that but it was kind of fun because I was watching it being like I had seen you guys play and you know up in Portland a couple times and you know so I'd seen you so I knew what to expect and it's always interesting in a different area with a different crowd and well like what Blackwater Holy Light was adored amongst the masses in the crowd so
00:17:16
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Yeah Yeah, yeah, so hey, you know I was gonna get into a bit as far as you know doing art right now I've asked different questions on the show because there are components of my show that is definitely activists around issues that are Warrant to artists and that are important in our world and I was just wondering if you'd like to comment around the role of art in
00:17:42
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you know, in a couple of ways. One in a pandemic or like what it does to artists or like how important is it or is it more important than ever?
Art as Connection and Resistance
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And the other one is really the kind of the role in art as far as disrupting, eliminating racism and patriarchy, misogyny in our society. And I just ask that in the sense because it keeps coming up. OK, so
00:18:14
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I kind of am hearing you just ask the question, like, why is art important in short? Yeah. And. Yeah, I mean, I really do. I truly do think that art is going to save us. I think that I think that. I think that there's so many things going on in the world right now that is giving people a reason to disconnect.
00:18:44
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and to disassociate with each other based off of, you know, political or other reasons. And it's like a lot, yeah, it's a lot of kind of go out and like survive kind of to each their own mentality that I see within, you know, the political climate right now. But on the other hand, there's also
00:19:13
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a ton of people that are just resisting that and saying, no, we have to come together. We have to be one. We have to fight and using art and things like, you know, like people that are all going out to the protests. And like, even if it doesn't really seem like a piece of art, even stuff like snack block, that's still a creative
00:19:35
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movement that's still people that are going out and using their creativity to connect to help each other and to like persevere through what everyone is kind of going through as a collective. So it's like it's, it's kind of on it's a sort of a two sided point, I guess, because yeah, I guess I just feel like with this administration, there's a lot of like, to each their own kind of mentality, I suppose, but
00:20:04
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Um, yeah, like we need, we need to be here for each other. We need to create with each other. We need to collaborate with people that we didn't think that we would collaborate with. And we need to, to expand our minds. We need to grow and we need to like do that all together. And I don't know, for me, it's, for me, it's like kind of the reason to keep going, you know, because
00:20:32
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I want to create things. I want to make things. And I want to also digest other people's art. And for me, that's kind of like the reason they get up and put my socks and shoes on in the morning. Because if you don't have that, then what do we have? Like what this this fucking pandemic, you know, and we have this president who is terrible and and doesn't care about art, doesn't care about people, doesn't care about anything. So it's like,
00:20:59
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We need this so that we can survive. We need this so that we can continue forward. I guess. It's kind of how I see it. And I think that there are maybe had more questions in there, but yeah, as far as like the role of art in a pandemic, like I feel like this has been a really like necessary shift and just like everyone's consciousness, just like, you know, people are so stuck in like the daily grind and like capitalism and just.
00:21:28
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go to work, work, work to survive. But like this is, you know, force a lot of people to just kind of slow down and like, you know, have no agenda other than just to like be into exists and to like see like what we can create. And I feel like that's been a really cool opportunity.
Creativity During the Pandemic
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Even though it's like, it's really hard to like
00:21:55
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just even be a person right now, like with the world being so heavy in this pandemic, but just to have this opportunity to learn from it and grow. And I think a lot of people have been changing their perspectives about how they want to live going forward. Yeah, it's a big one. Yeah, I think it's done a lot of those things. I know for myself,
00:22:24
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I've done a lot of walking and I've really accelerated the things that I produce because I paint and I write and I do the podcast. I found myself really, I wasn't sure at first how I'd respond to being like, okay, maybe I'll create a bunch more things to process through things. That's what I did, but it was certainly something to respond to. I was talking to artists around
00:22:51
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you know, really over the last few months with the pandemic and some are like, I don't want pressure to produce right now, even though I'm not supposed to be doing anything because like, I don't want pressure to produce. Like I want things that rise organically and others are like, I'm going to so, so big, like forcing creativity is impossible. You know, it needs to, it just needs to come out of you. Like, I don't know. I guess there are some, some people that can just sit down and be like, okay, I'm forcing myself to like,
00:23:20
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write music or I'm forcing myself to paint or I'm forcing myself to do all of these things. But, um, that just seems like so difficult to, for me coming from a person that like, I really can't force myself to do those things. Like it just comes out when it comes out. And, you know, it's like really my situations around me are what like present the opportunities for those things to come out. But yeah.
00:23:43
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Yeah, yeah. And listeners, we're talking with Michaela, Sarah, and Sunny of Blackwater Holy Light Portland. I'd say I would go to say metal, an eclectic Portland band. You can say metal if you want to say metal. An eclectic metal band.
00:24:02
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The dark dark was it was one word. I definitely heard that in there. It's kind of like dark psych. Heavy psych. Heavy psych. Heavy psych. So so we got you know we heard about a bit about how Blackwater Holy Light came together and and I you might have answered this but I I tend to ask it in general anyways.
00:24:25
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Do you end up each of you in creating, you know, your art or art through Blackwater Holy Light? Are you doing it, you know, because like you're absolutely compelled to create in a certain way. And the question is, why, why do you create things? So like, what pushes you to put, you know, all that energy into creating songs? And do you ever step back and say, you know, why am I doing this and like, taking a step back that way?
00:24:54
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Like for me, I just don't know what else I would do. Like I've just never really thought about doing anything else. Like I've kind of been, I've been playing music since I was like a little kid and like, I've just kind of always known like that's what I want to do. Like I don't know what I would do if I didn't have it. So I just create because I can't not, I think. Yeah, same. I don't think I always knew that I was,
00:25:25
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was going to be a musician necessarily. Um, I think once I decided that for myself in kind of my early twenties, like then similarly to Michaela, I was like, okay, this is all I'm seeing. But I, I kind of, I do it again, kind of like what we were talking about a little earlier is like, it's just, it's therapeutic and it's how I process my pain and it's how I process my trauma and it's how,
00:25:55
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I process my love and it's just it's it makes I validate myself with how I'm feeling kind of with with the music because yeah like I just sort of yeah it's kind of like I like I can't not I just have to I have to get it out like that's how it happens it's I guess we don't have a choice yeah
00:26:22
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I've heard you talk, I've heard you mentioned a couple times like love in connection to art. And while I'm noticing this, you know, I've done a bunch of episodes here is a lot of times when I'm talking about the definition of art, surprisingly, like, I'm not saying it hasn't come up, but that word, which seems very intuitive me to come up in a discussion of art would be love. And I just noticed that that word. And I just kind of kind of picked that out because I'm
00:26:48
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actually a little bit surprised that in the definitions of arts that I of art I've heard it tends to be maybe it's just a bit more cerebral right and less from the emotions in the heart but I mean that's what art that's where art hits you right that's where like the the baseline hey not to not to put anybody off here but this way the baseline hits you or the or the drums you know and the sounds um now a big question I have on the podcast is the name of the podcast and I don't know
00:27:18
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if Michaela you just said somebody has to answer that question or like you all want to jump in but the the idea is why is there something rather than nothing and sometimes I post this question for artists pose it in a certain way of saying you know is your art you know come from nothing but whatever way you want to answer it do anybody want to take a stab at why is there something rather than nothing?
00:27:45
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Yeah, this is a really interesting question. Yeah, it is an interesting question. Why is there something rather than nothing? Well, I guess we'll start with saying that I'm extremely thankful and grateful that there's something rather than nothing. We can create anything because yeah, like what would we do?
00:28:11
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Sometimes nothing's chill too though. Yeah. I don't know. Like why is there something rather than nothing? Because the world needs it. Cause putting your creativity out and into the world and letting other people digest it.
00:28:40
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is good for you and it is how we all grow. I kind of think like there's something there because we're people, we're malleable, we change, we grow, we form, we have values and like we need the art and we need all of this in order to do those things and to be like the best versions of ourselves.
The Therapeutic Nature of Art
00:29:06
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:09
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just need it, like I think whether they know it or not, like everyone creates something like in some way, like everyone creates, everyone makes art, like whatever that means to them, everyone is vulnerable and you know, everyone needs that something, whatever that is, whatever your something is, yeah. It's also another good way to, you know, influence other people too.
00:29:40
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So that vulnerability and also find influence. Yeah. Yeah. We would just be dust. Yeah. Yeah. I, uh, this question and I, I, I,
Philosophical Questions in Art
00:30:03
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I thank you for trying to stab at it. The funny part, or at least to me, the funny part about the question is it's almost along the lines of the biggest question, and there's no easy way to answer it. Part of the thing is with the podcast, what I try to do is really top the bigger questions that are behind why we do things.
00:30:03
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uh,
00:30:30
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Good. There's things now that I'm going to go home and think about. So thank you. Oh, yeah. Well, and of course, we can always chat in the future, too, because I mean, like these questions are really big. I mean, I took a philosophy of art.
00:30:47
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a class. And it was, oh my gosh, it was a bit it was a long time ago. So it was at the University of Rhode Island. And so, you know, it's a question like the questions that I'm asking now, like they might have been submerged for me, or maybe I didn't actively thinking about as much. But once I kind of pulled them back into a podcast, it was like, wow, I've been like thinking about these things for
00:31:14
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for a long time and studying them. And it tends to be fun and being able to talk to artists and be able to kick it around. I'm always a bit surprised about the angles. I want to let each one of you just speak a little bit more openly towards the end here about
00:31:39
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Like I said, I mean, it's no mystery. I love the art that each one of you do and the collective Blackwater Holy Light. But could you just point out to the listeners ways to find you, your music, your art, or how you would like to share what the many listeners are going to be listening to hear what Blackwater Holy Light has to say. So the easiest way to find us is we have a website.
00:32:09
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And it's just Blackwaterholylight.com. And on that website is links to videos. There's photos, links to our Instagram, links to our Facebook, Spotify, Apple Music. We're available on all streaming platforms. It's also connected to our merch store. If anyone wants merch stuff, you can buy our records from our label, Writing Easy Records.
00:32:38
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And so yeah, all that good stuff is just right there all together on our website, blackwaterholylight.com. So you could find, you could find everything there.
00:32:49
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um well hey I wanted I wanted to to thank all of you uh so much it has been like I said I wanted to be able to get you on on on the podcast and also like I said connecting to that uh last show before we have shows again you know the last show uh in Eugene and really thank you for um
00:33:10
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the art, your energy. It' when I get to see you and check out black water. going to enjoy, enjoy their would love to have you bac
00:33:30
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Thank you so much for having us and for asking challenging questions. It's, it's fun. It's fun to try and get through them and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Appreciate you. Yeah. I'm going to sit on that for a while. That one's the tough, you know, what's, you know, what's cool. I never quite answered these. Eventually I'm going to be a.
00:33:50
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a you know a guest on my own show. You did it for yourself buddy. I nobody's there hasn't been a collective uprising to say enough of asking these bullshit questions everybody else you answer them but um what happened what what my favorite response and it isn't really a response is the buddhist response to why is there something rather than nothing and they basically say bullshit don't even bother with the question
00:34:16
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it's gonna kind of like there's no answer like there's no answer that we'll know or be able to prove so just like if you want to dabble with the question that's fine but you'll have more fun not trying to answer it and looking another way that's awesome so so you know if you if you get asked to it be like you know i think they call it an unanswerable or question or something that you don't talk about not to censor yourself but it's kind of like a guide in life of being like
00:34:47
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Sit down, meditate, see what your relationship is with yourself. Don't worry about the creation of all the universe. Also, it's nice to have the opportunity to try and make a response to something when you know that there aren't any rules. Thanks for that. Yeah, that's a big part of it. This was a lot of fun. I hope you enjoyed it. Awesome. Cool. Thank you so much for having us on.
00:35:15
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Alright, well you have a great, uh, have a lovely Sunday, okay? Yeah, you as well. Alright, bye now.