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Speaker: Welcome everybody to your 303 Endurance Podcast.
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Speaker: Welcome to episode 345 of the 303 Endurance Podcast.
Speaker: You are listening to your weekly connection to coaches, experts, and pro athletes to help you reach your endurance goals.
Speaker: We're your host, Coach Rich Soares and 303 Chief Editor, Bill Plot.
Speaker: Thanks for joining us for another week of endurance interviews and discussion.
Speaker: Bill, how are you doing this week?
Speaker: I'm good.
Speaker: I'm still in Iowa.
Speaker: I'm sitting in my brother's smaller music venue called The Blues Shop.
Speaker: And I'm with all the artist names all over the wall.
Speaker: Across the way is Kyle Eastwood, Clint Eastwood's son.
Speaker: What?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: He's got all kinds of folks on here.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: A bunch of blues people.
Speaker: He's got, let me see here behind me.
Speaker: These are probably names you wouldn't know.
Speaker: I'm trying to find one you might know.
Speaker: There's a bunch of people I...
Speaker: Bo Ramsey.
Speaker: Well, you wouldn't know Bo Ramsey.
Speaker: Anyway, he's got... Sounds familiar.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Huh.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: So while he's sitting in this empty little... Well, it used to be a jewelry store way back in the 1800s.
Speaker: And a shoe store and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker: So... That's really cool.
Speaker: And he's got a bedroom there or something that you can... Or an apartment?
Speaker: No, I crossed the courtyards of my sister's house that she... She actually lives in Santa Barbara, but she bought this house.
Speaker: It was built in 1865.
Speaker: And then in between here and her house is a little courtyard where she has an outdoor stage.
Speaker: And we had...
Speaker: a major, a really awesome concert the other night on Monday night with this country singer named Jessica Lynn.
Speaker: You can Google her.
Speaker: She's pretty popular.
Speaker: She was actually playing here.
Speaker: It was almost like a family reunion.
Speaker: And then she was traveling in the US and then she was heading next to Clear Lake to play in the Surf Ballroom, the last place where the Big Bopper and Richie Valens played before their plane crashed.
Speaker: So they were heading up there to play in a big gig, about 3,000 people.
Speaker: So here she is playing for 40 of us.
Speaker: And then she was great.
Speaker: Funny story, she had a dog that didn't have any back legs.
Speaker: So this dog had fake back legs and was getting around on these prosthetic legs.
Speaker: I've never seen a dog with prosthetic legs.
Speaker: Have you?
Speaker: I have...
Speaker: Not.
Speaker: I've seen them with a wheel.
Speaker: They have their both legs amputated with a little wheel, like little wheels, like a little thing that their body rests in.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Huh.
Speaker: So that's the colorful place I'm at.
Speaker: We've got all kinds of music here.
Speaker: There's a great gig tomorrow night.
Speaker: Today's his birthday, so shout out to David.
Speaker: 51 years old today.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: Happy birthday.
Speaker: When do you head back home?
Speaker: Monday morning.
Speaker: Monday morning.
Speaker: Okay, cool.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: So what are you up to?
Speaker: Well, I just got in a quick ride this morning before we recorded.
Speaker: It's been a kind of busy week at work and, you know, I'm just getting ready for Boulder 70.3 in a couple of weeks.
Speaker: So I've got another race rehearsal training block this weekend doing a three and a half hour ride followed by a 40 minute run on Saturday and then Sunday, another long run.
Speaker: And I just, you know, getting ready for the, getting ready for that hot run that we're going to have out there at the Boulder Res after the, um, the swim and the bike.
Speaker: Hopefully it cools down a little bit, huh?
Speaker: Hopefully.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Probably won't.
Speaker: It'll be probably not.
Speaker: I'm not, I'm not going to count on it.
Speaker: That's for sure.
Speaker: But no, I'm excited.
Speaker: It's going to be Lauren's first 70.3.
Speaker: So hoping that goes well for her and her boyfriend.
Speaker: So.
Speaker: Oh, great.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: That'll be fun.
Speaker: Yeah, well, I've got an interesting show today.
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Speaker: So Bill, as I was thinking about this week's episode and what we were going to talk about,
Speaker: This thing came across, this email came across my desk, so to speak, or my desktop.
Speaker: And it is an event that's happening this upcoming week.
Speaker: It's called Ask Me Anything with Mark Allen.
Speaker: And it's going to be open to the public, so anybody can join and listen in.
Speaker: And I thought...
Speaker: One of the things that you and I could talk about in this week's discussion is if you had an opportunity to ask Mark Allen anything, what would that question be?
Speaker: And it could be anything about his race history, his coaching philosophy.
Speaker: It could be what brand of toothpaste he uses.
Speaker: Yeah, right.
Speaker: Think about that.
Speaker: You and I should talk about that here in just a minute.
Speaker: I'd be curious to hear what your thoughts are.
Speaker: Also have some endurance news.
Speaker: The 2021 Ironman World Championship coverage is going to be airing on NBC and Peacock this weekend as well on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker: And then we also have the PTO Canadian Open in Edmonton bringing all of the big hitters.
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: over the weekend and, um, got a few things here happening in the three Oh three.
Speaker: We've got Boulder 70.3 coming up August six cycle to the summit.
Speaker: I don't know if you caught this bill, the, uh, Pikes peak cycle to the summit, August 13th.
Speaker: No.
Speaker: And, um, they do.
Speaker: Um, the reason that it came to my attention is, I don't know if you got copied on this email to Mike Tierney.
Speaker: Remember Mike from the, the unicyclists.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Apparently he has been shut down by that race.
Speaker: No, no unicycles.
Speaker: They're allowing e-bikes and tandems and everything else, but unicycles.
Speaker: Did he send us an email?
Speaker: I got copied on it.
Speaker: I missed it, I guess.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Asking us to try to help lobby to get him up.
Speaker: I just think he's, I just think he's keeping us and keeping us informed and what's going on.
Speaker: I missed that.
Speaker: Maybe it's buried somewhere in my, that's kind of a bummer.
Speaker: I wonder why they're doing that.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Well, anyway, we'll talk about Cycle to the Summit and, of course, Harvest Moon coming up.
Speaker: And, yeah, so why don't we get into our show here and why don't we just kick it off?
Speaker: I want to have this, I'm going to hit you with a hard question early, Bill.
Speaker: So if you had the opportunity to ask Mark Allen any single question, what would that question be?
Speaker: Oh, man.
Speaker: That's a hard one.
Speaker: This early in the morning.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I think maybe why he thinks triathletes take things so seriously.
Speaker: That'd be a good one.
Speaker: Like why, I mean, why do 55 year old men worry about
Speaker: saving three seconds on a transition because they want to learn how to do speed laces.
Speaker: I'm like, really?
Speaker: I mean, I'm not saying you shouldn't try to learn how to save three seconds.
Speaker: I'm just like, I don't know a sport that seems so nuanced as triathlon.
Speaker: And in the age group situation.
Speaker: You mean like so competitive, like why would, why, why, what other sport where would you have a,
Speaker: male, a 55 year old male being so competitive or not so much competitive.
Speaker: But why?
Speaker: Why are they?
Speaker: I think we all sweat the small stuff so big time.
Speaker: Like why?
Speaker: why is it we don't focus on getting in better shape or why is it we don't focus on losing a little weight or relaxing a little more?
Speaker: You know, I mean, we, we tend to focus on all the things that, you know, which piece of equipment, which wheel, which blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker: Instead of why do we make it so hard?
Speaker: I feel like we, I feel like we make it way too hard.
Speaker: I think that'd be a good question for him.
Speaker: Cause I feel like he's a little bit simpler focus kind of person.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker: It does.
Speaker: You know, I'm rereading his book, fit, fit body, fit soul.
Speaker: And you know, the basic premise of it is, is that there are a lot of, a lot of people who are going around trying to become faster, fitter, leaner, whatever, um,
Speaker: And they reach these goals, these physical goals, but they are still unfulfilled, right?
Speaker: They're still left feeling like their life is incomplete, like they don't have everything in balance.
Speaker: And this is part of his whole working with Brant Segunda and his whole kind of sort of religious shaman studies that he did with Brant Segunda.
Speaker: And it's, you know, he wrote this, you know, it's basically the steps or the keys to a happier and healthier you beyond just the physical training, right?
Speaker: How do you get your soul right as well as your body?
Speaker: Interesting.
Speaker: So what you're saying is kind of similar to the question I was thinking, which is how does the principles in that book or, you know, the things that he's learned, you know, as a shaman and that's those studies, how do those things show up in his coaching style?
Speaker: Like when he's talking, when he's working with athletes, right?
Speaker: Does he, does he not, does he just coach the body and the training and the physical aspect or does he also try to,
Speaker: get into the kind of the soul part of it, the mental part of it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It just seems like, it feels like a lot of people try to buy speed rather than just become faster.
Speaker: And they buy things way before they're ready to take advantage of them.
Speaker: Oh, I see where you're going.
Speaker: So why is that in traffic?
Speaker: Maybe it's the same thing in golf.
Speaker: Maybe people buy, and I know that's true to some degree.
Speaker: I've been around, like they buy the best driver in the world because they think they can get 10 extra yards.
Speaker: But when's the right time to max out your physical ability and then complement it with better equipment as opposed to maxing out your equipment before you're even close to maxing out your physical ability?
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Well, cyclists do that too, right?
Speaker: I mean, how many cyclists go out there and try to shave six ounces on a frame when it would be easier to just lose six pounds?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Well, that's true.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Yeah, right.
Speaker: I know there's a lot of, hey, if I can afford it, I want the best bike.
Speaker: And I totally understand that for sure.
Speaker: But I feel like triathlon is, and cycling, you probably throw in this category too, of course, but
Speaker: I feel like there's a lot of there's so much more into a triathlon in terms of all the different disciplines and the types of ways you can buy speed or technology, whether it's a wetsuit versus, you know, different shoes or $250 running shoe.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And you're running a 10 minute pace in a $250 running shoe.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: And all of that is fine.
Speaker: I'm not criticizing people for buying the nicest things because they can.
Speaker: That's totally cool.
Speaker: But why is it that we're that way?
Speaker: I mean, what is in the culture of triathlon that has... You know, there's... It's almost like we're all running for money.
Speaker: It's really interesting.
Speaker: Is it uber competitive group?
Speaker: Is it just a one-upsmanship of the sport?
Speaker: It's really... I don't know.
Speaker: I actually think it's...
Speaker: I think triathlon is a little bit of, I don't know.
Speaker: It's kind of a, I don't know.
Speaker: It's kind of a little bit of an escape from the real world.
Speaker: It's kind of like, you're kind of this athlete in the moment and you're kind of, I don't know, you're kind of living out this pseudo life as an athlete and it's kind of nice to have nice equipment, I guess.
Speaker: Yeah, I think it's just interesting that we buy into our, you know, we're always looking, and whether it's triathlon, whether it's life, whether it's, you know, we all want that magic bullet.
Speaker: And I'm sometimes wondering why we don't just go run a little faster, a little harder, a little longer, as opposed to buy a new pair of shoes.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: And it's just an interesting, and maybe that's just human nature.
Speaker: Maybe that's bigger than that.
Speaker: You know, maybe it's, it could be all kinds of stuff, but I'd be curious how he is and what his take is on that of keeping it simple.
Speaker: And can you, can you win simply?
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Well, when we do this post this weekend for this show, I think I'll put that question in our show post and see what kind of response we get from folks.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, it'd be interesting.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So, uh, folks, if you are, uh, thinking about this, this open for anybody, I've got a link here in the show notes, or there will be a link here in the show notes, but a virtual virtual event next Thursday, Mark Allen, bring your questions, settle in to hear stories and pearls of triathlon wisdom from ESPN's greatest endurance athlete of all time.
Speaker: Uh, uh, TriDot actually pushed this out to all of the TriDot coaches and ambassadors, but it is open to the public.
Speaker: 7 p.m.
Speaker: Mountain Time this coming Thursday, July 28th.
Speaker: Awesome.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And there's actually, when you go to this link and you click to register, you'll get an email back asking you to submit your question that Mark Allen will read and answer during the show or during the event.
Speaker: All right.
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Speaker: So St.
Speaker: George Ironman World Championship from this year, which was the 2021 Ironman World Championship rolled over to 2022.
Speaker: That NBC coverage is airing this weekend, Bill.
Speaker: Oh, is it really?
Speaker: Be interesting.
Speaker: Oh, so they're going to do kind of the usual Kona recap kind of video, but this time obviously from St.
Speaker: George.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Oh, that'd be kind of neat.
Speaker: Yeah, and that neat.
Speaker: So yeah, it's going to be a 1 p.m.
Speaker: Mountain Time, 3 p.m.
Speaker: Central, or sorry, 3 p.m.
Speaker: Eastern documentary.
Speaker: We'll chronicle, just as it has in the past, what has become the most iconic single-day endurance event in the world, along with stories of both professional and inspiring age group athletes competing in this prestigious triathlon.
Speaker: It will be available globally on Ironman YouTube channel as well.
Speaker: So there's a link here in the show notes for that.
Speaker: Among the features for this are going to be two young Norwegians at the top of their sport, the Olympic gold medalist Christian Blumenfeldt, reigning 70.3 world champion Gustav Eden.
Speaker: Going head to head, two top Americans and rising star Utah resident Sky Mensch is featured in this as well as Heather Jackson.
Speaker: After a stretch of unfamiliar form, Daniela Reif looks to return to glory and chase down her fifth Ironman World Championship.
Speaker: They've got Australian Renee Kiley, who was a pack-a-day smoker and did not exercise, apparently sharing how she turned her life around.
Speaker: So that looks like one of their non-pro features, as well as...
Speaker: Well, I don't know how to pronounce these folks' names.
Speaker: But anyway, there's going to be a, it's going to be just like the regular NBC coverage of Kona, but like you said, this time for St.
Speaker: George.
Speaker: I wonder how that'll be.
Speaker: I wonder what, so I've talked to over the years, lots of people who, when I mentioned I've done triathlons or I'm sort of in the business or whatever, they're like,
Speaker: Oh, you know, I watch that show every year about the Hawaii Ironman or triathlon or however they say it.
Speaker: They don't follow the sport.
Speaker: They don't know much about what's going on in the sport, but they tend to watch that and enjoy it.
Speaker: It'll be interesting if someone catches it and be like, wait, where's this?
Speaker: What kind of confusion that's going to add.
Speaker: Oh, I'm sure.
Speaker: It'll be interesting to see how they position it and whether it's a one-time event, you know, or that's something that's going to be something that people will see again in the future.
Speaker: I don't know what's really famous about St.
Speaker: George in terms of what's St.
Speaker: George's Alihi Drive.
Speaker: I guess, is it Owl Canyon or Snow Canyon where the bike goes into?
Speaker: I know that's kind of famous.
Speaker: I don't know that there's another.
Speaker: I'm sure there is.
Speaker: I guess the point is I wonder if they'll start to...
Speaker: brand a little bit of some of that race to try to in case they go back in the future for other things.
Speaker: I think, I think that's in there.
Speaker: I wouldn't be surprised if that's in their long-term plans.
Speaker: Like, do they start, do they start to package certain parts of that as a iconic thing, you know?
Speaker: Yeah, that's what I'm kind of curious.
Speaker: I'm curious how they position it.
Speaker: Is this sort of positioned as a one-time thing or is it going to be positioned more like you're going to see this in the future again?
Speaker: Have you been there?
Speaker: No.
Speaker: No, okay.
Speaker: No, uh-uh.
Speaker: It's definitely got the elements to be.
Speaker: Iconic.
Speaker: It's pretty cool.
Speaker: The reservoir is really neat that they swim in.
Speaker: There is a good climb.
Speaker: I think it's a Hell Canyon.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: Maybe it's a Snow Canyon.
Speaker: I know I've said that twice.
Speaker: But it is pretty cool.
Speaker: And then the run is very hilly.
Speaker: There's some great... I could see it being...
Speaker: If it's not the world championships, it could be some kind of qualifier or something pretty cool.
Speaker: There's definitely a lot of elements to it.
Speaker: It's a neat course.
Speaker: I wish I had gotten there this year.
Speaker: I don't think I want to do it.
Speaker: No.
Speaker: It'd be hard.
Speaker: I think it's a harder...
Speaker: I think it's a harder course than Kona if you factor out the heat.
Speaker: I mean, I know St.
Speaker: George can get hot, but I don't think there's... There's just nothing like Kona hot.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: It's oppressive.
Speaker: Oh, it's crazy.
Speaker: I mean, you and I know, just running out there for four miles, it feels like you were out there for eight.
Speaker: Yeah, it's just...
Speaker: I mean, the actual topography of Kona isn't really anything to write home about.
Speaker: I mean, yeah, they've got the hills of Kona Tavi and all that stuff, but it's the dang heat and wind.
Speaker: It's not the topography.
Speaker: Whereas St.
Speaker: George has the topography.
Speaker: You know, it's got the pretty big hills.
Speaker: It's got iconic things like that.
Speaker: I mean, you got the hot, you got, what is it?
Speaker: Panini, or what's the hill?
Speaker: Palani Drive.
Speaker: You've got some.
Speaker: Palani, yeah.
Speaker: Definitely got some hills, but not, I'd be curious if you looked at the elevation difference.
Speaker: I mean, there's good elevation on the bike ride on the Queen K, but St.
Speaker: George is, that's a world-class course for sure.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Well, it'll be interesting to see what 2023 brings and see how Kona goes this year.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Um, yeah, well, let's, let's pivot a little bit.
Speaker: Talk to in that same, maybe conversation.
Speaker: We can talk about the Boulder 70.3 coming up and we can think back to the Boulder Ironman.
Speaker: What, what is iconic about racing in that venue?
Speaker: Boulder?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Like if you were to make a Iron Man movie and Boulder was your backdrop, what would you, what would you highlight?
Speaker: Oh, interesting.
Speaker: Um, well, you know, the Boulder course, I mean, I just, I think that
Speaker: We could make the Boulder course more interesting and take advantage of a lot more of some of the iconic things that make Colorado cycling Colorado cycling.
Speaker: Um, you know, the boulder course is really generally pretty flat.
Speaker: I mean, especially, I mean, I, I didn't do it in subsequent years, but in that first year it went way out East.
Speaker: And, you know, I mean, that isn't the best feature.
Speaker: You know, some of those Eastern planes aren't our best features.
Speaker: The mountains are right.
Speaker: Getting some climbs and it would have been very interesting.
Speaker: I think if, um,
Speaker: They got some left-hand canyon riding in on the boulder course, right?
Speaker: Or something like that.
Speaker: Well, that's interesting you say that.
Speaker: I mean, okay, so as you know, they changed the course after that first year, I think for several reasons.
Speaker: But I do know that when they originally were plotting that course, they had planned to go up to Carter Lake.
Speaker: And then, so we had all those floods, you know, in what was that, 2013, which caused damage that was still in play when 2014 race happened.
Speaker: So that would have been cool, climb up the dams of Carter Lake and then go across and then down.
Speaker: I mean...
Speaker: At downhill, it's probably a little sketch, but you can manage it.
Speaker: That would have been cool.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But if you took today's course, and you had to be creative in producing that show, Boulder 70.3, I guess the hot run, the what?
Speaker: Maybe how fast can you go up the diagonal and back?
Speaker: I mean, what is it that you would focus on to make it interesting?
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: You know, and the Boulder Res isn't, I mean, as pretty as it is out there, I don't know what it would look like if it was made for NBC coverage, that sort of thing, right?
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: But, you know, you've got some really interesting landscape in St.
Speaker: George and of course in Kona, beautiful, right?
Speaker: I find it pretty fascinating.
Speaker: I mean, just, it's different.
Speaker: That whole lava field,
Speaker: You know, the lava fields coming right up to the ocean.
Speaker: That's, that's pretty.
Speaker: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker: I'm sure Kenny Withrow could put together something to make Boulder look like amazing, right?
Speaker: Oh, I'm sure he could.
Speaker: Well, you know, got the flat irons, right?
Speaker: But it's like how, how featured is that kind of stuff in the course itself?
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But yeah, Boulder's got a lot of beautiful attractions.
Speaker: I'm sure that they could make it be very visually appealing.
Speaker: When you coach athletes getting ready for Boulder, what challenge does the course offer you the most as a coach?
Speaker: Is it heat?
Speaker: Hot.
Speaker: The hot run.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker: That's a great question.
Speaker: That's exactly right.
Speaker: I think what I try to focus on is a pacing and hydration strategy that prepares you for that hot run.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Because it can be, I mean, last weekend on Sunday, it was, Saturday was,
Speaker: Low 90s.
Speaker: Sunday was high 90s.
Speaker: It was 97 on Sunday.
Speaker: In August, it's just going to be warmer.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I think with Boulder, the thing that always struck me when I did it is we've all ran in hot, and we've been places that are hot, but it's just that exposure.
Speaker: There's just really no break.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: That's the other thing is because there is –
Speaker: There's no shade out there.
Speaker: There's no shade on the bike course.
Speaker: There's no shade on the run course.
Speaker: Really coaching athletes to stay on top of sunscreen so they don't get burned because once your skin starts to get burned, that is just another stress on your body.
Speaker: And that just makes you feel hot and uncomfortable.
Speaker: And now you're chafing and you've got, ugh.
Speaker: But like, you know, I was running the other day here in Iowa and it's hot and humid.
Speaker: It feels a little like Kona sometimes.
Speaker: But, you know, the pavement, the black pavement, obviously, is very hot.
Speaker: And you intuitively think, well, the dirt, running on dirt in Boulder, does that feel less hot?
Speaker: Or does it almost feel dusty and makes you feel hotter?
Speaker: You know what I mean?
Speaker: Is it meant to, cause I'm sure the ground temperature is less because it's not blacktop, but it, it seems, I don't know something about it.
Speaker: Just the dust, the crunching of the gravel, the no trees.
Speaker: You just feel like you're out in the desert or something.
Speaker: It's pretty tough.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, it's good to be prepared for that for sure.
Speaker: And some heat adaptation and making sure you've got a good hydration and skin care, skin protection strategy is good in practicing that.
Speaker: Do you wear sun sleeves?
Speaker: I do not wear sun sleeves anymore.
Speaker: I have a full sleeve or a shirt, sorry, you know, the...
Speaker: not a sleeveless kit.
Speaker: I've got the, you know, short sleeve kit.
Speaker: So it goes pretty much down to the, um, pretty far down on my upper arm.
Speaker: And so I just have a little bit of sunscreen that I apply to my, my forearms and I'm usually pretty good in my, in my quads and my calves.
Speaker: I'm usually pretty good in the back of my neck.
Speaker: What I do, I actually grab, I actually will pick up a travel size flip top sunscreen in the grocery store.
Speaker: And I just keep that with me.
Speaker: And when I'm riding out on the course, I will just pull that out and put a big blop on each quad as I'm riding.
Speaker: And then I've got this, then I've got this like sort of a palette, if you will, of sunscreen that I can just grab and then rub on my ears, the back of my neck, rub into my arms, you know, while I'm riding so I can stay on top of it.
Speaker: I was never very good at keeping up with sunscreen.
Speaker: I got the big slather after the bike ride.
Speaker: You know, I'd always, of course, put it on before and then the big slather getting onto the bike.
Speaker: But that was, I kind of relied on that.
Speaker: And then, of course, they miss a spot here and there.
Speaker: I can remember a couple of Ironmans take off the top and you're like, oh, they missed a couple of, always kind of around the armholes, you know, and there was like, it looked like rare meat.
Speaker: Yeah, right.
Speaker: It wasn't even red.
Speaker: It went beyond red.
Speaker: It was that,
Speaker: getting ready.
Speaker: Uh, purple.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Purple.
Speaker: Oh my God.
Speaker: That hurt.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: Well, and Ironman for a while there during COVID was not having sunscreeners, uh, sunscreen volunteers, but that, uh, that is back in business now.
Speaker: They, it was interesting.
Speaker: The, um, athlete guide for Iowa, Ironman, Iowa, they weren't going to do it, but they ended up actually doing it.
Speaker: So, um,
Speaker: I didn't think about that.
Speaker: I did, you know, back to our conversation a little bit about iconic Boulder.
Speaker: And when you think back to the Ironman, I will say that running on the Boulder Creek was really cool.
Speaker: And yes, very fun.
Speaker: I mean, I hated it when we crossed over on Pearl and then we're out kind of in the,
Speaker: along the creek out there it was pretty exposed but but that was about it i mean most of it was in the not i wouldn't call it the shade but there was definitely shade but then running up and down the creek and i remember dave kirsten kirsten calling it the flux capacitor you know and it kind of was that shape and it was awesome it was really awesome all the crowd and the
Speaker: Running near water somehow makes you feel cooler.
Speaker: I know some people would ditch off and jump in real quick, and I never did that.
Speaker: And then you see all kinds of crazies on the Boulder Creek path anyway, so that's always, there's some eye candy there just to kind of keep you interested.
Speaker: That was a really fun run.
Speaker: I think that the full-distance Ironman Boulder run was more enjoyable than the half-distance.
Speaker: Oh, totally.
Speaker: Because of the Boulder Creek run.
Speaker: path i didn't love it when they changed the last time last couple years where they you ran from the boulder res and you you went down j road and then down into boulder oh my god that was so hot like yeah running west on j road into the sun it was 103 degrees on blacktop oh my god that was brutal
Speaker: But I know how that goes with permits and city.
Speaker: They were always fighting traffic and closing roads and trying to make things as least impactful as possible.
Speaker: That's why they changed the big loop course.
Speaker: Because I think that course went through at least three different counties.
Speaker: And that causes all kinds of traffic control and permits and costs.
Speaker: And so then it contained it all to Boulder County.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Well, so, um, yeah, so, uh, Ironman world championship airing this weekend and, um, you know, we'll see how that goes.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: I'm going to shift gears on you a little bit, Bill.
Speaker: We've been talking about the tour.
Speaker: I'm not going to go into a big deal on the tour standings here right now, other than to say Tata Bogotá is still number two and Jonas Vingago is now in first place.
Speaker: It's starting to look like he's going to hold on to that.
Speaker: Um, he's on the, uh, jumbo Viz, Vizma team with Sep Kuse.
Speaker: And guess where Sep Kuse is in the standings.
Speaker: Well, last I looked, which has been a few days now, he was like 17.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: He's now eight, eight.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: Top 10.
Speaker: Awesome.
Speaker: American.
Speaker: That's great.
Speaker: Good for stuff.
Speaker: I know their team had a rough day a few days ago when I was actually able to tune in a little bit.
Speaker: They lost a couple of writers in a crash, but yeah.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: I don't know how he's doing now.
Speaker: That's awesome.
Speaker: Is he number one on their team?
Speaker: No, Jonas Vingago is.
Speaker: He's in the yellow jersey.
Speaker: Todd Bogotcha is second.
Speaker: And Wot Barnard is third in that classification after stage 18.
Speaker: I got to imagine today's another big climbing day.
Speaker: I mean, they've only got, what, two days left before the, you know, the chance of the lay.
Speaker: That's it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So how much separates each person?
Speaker: Top two?
Speaker: Not much.
Speaker: We've got Tata Bogotá is a minute, four seconds back.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Woot van Aert is 2.10 back.
Speaker: And just to give you some perspective, Sepp Kuss is only 3.27 back.
Speaker: So realistically, so what is there, two stages left that count?
Speaker: It's going to be pretty hard.
Speaker: It's going to be pretty hard to make up that minute.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Well, and of course, Sepp is working for Jonas, so he's not going to attack Jonas for the yellow jersey.
Speaker: I wonder what the greatest deficit somebody's overcome with two stages left.
Speaker: Oh, that'd be a good question.
Speaker: That'd be a good thing to research.
Speaker: That'd be hard.
Speaker: I wouldn't think that'd be easy necessarily to figure out without some pretty good math, but...
Speaker: You know, if we were football announcers, if we were watching a football game, we'd have that information already.
Speaker: That's true.
Speaker: Well, if we were really good at our job here, we probably would have had that information already.
Speaker: But I'm guessing it's not much more than those numbers, right?
Speaker: I mean, it's hard to overcome that.
Speaker: It is.
Speaker: It really is.
Speaker: Those guys protect so well and position themselves.
Speaker: They know exactly where they need to be to keep up with the guy that's got the minute on him, right?
Speaker: I mean, it's pretty tough to meet that up.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Well, and, uh, and this year the, uh, tour doesn't exactly end on the 24th because the tour de France films actually starts on July 24th and that's a 640 mile, 144 women from 24 teams.
Speaker: Oh, cool.
Speaker: So that, uh, and that's going to be aired as well.
Speaker: So that'll be cool.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Awesome.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Well, PTO Canadian Open this weekend, 23rd and 24th.
Speaker: We've got the, I think it is, let's see here.
Speaker: The men's rankings.
Speaker: The races are on different days.
Speaker: So the men's, let's see.
Speaker: Christian Blumenfeldt is ranked number one, Patrick Lange, number two, Gustav Eden, number three, Magnus Dietlev, number four, and Lionel Sanders, number five.
Speaker: Boy, interesting.
Speaker: Jan Ferdano, eighth.
Speaker: That's interesting.
Speaker: Matt Hansen, 10th.
Speaker: Sam Long, 11th.
Speaker: Rudy Von Berg, 13th.
Speaker: Chris Leiferman, 16th.
Speaker: Just a...
Speaker: give a shout out to some of our local local pros.
Speaker: Well, that's a big that's a pretty damn stellar field there.
Speaker: Oh, yeah, this is this is going to be this is actually a pretty, pretty, pretty big promoted race.
Speaker: The women's equally impressive.
Speaker: Let's see here.
Speaker: Just lost my mouse.
Speaker: There it is.
Speaker: It's back.
Speaker: The women, Daniela Reif, ranked number one.
Speaker: Ann Haug, number two.
Speaker: Laura Phillip, third.
Speaker: Kat Matthews, fourth.
Speaker: Lucy Charles, fifth.
Speaker: Taylor Nibb, sixth.
Speaker: Sky Mench, seventh.
Speaker: Jackie Herring, twelfth.
Speaker: Now, what distance is this?
Speaker: This is... Is it 100K total or something like that?
Speaker: Yeah, it looks like it is a 100K race, 2K swim, 80K bike, 18K run.
Speaker: Now, has Taylor done that distance?
Speaker: Wait, she was in Czechoslovakia, wasn't she?
Speaker: I think she was.
Speaker: Yeah, because she beat Daniela Ryf.
Speaker: Yeah, she's done this distance before.
Speaker: Yeah, okay.
Speaker: Well, what's cool is they actually have this new platform called PTO Plus that will allow you to watch it live from their website.
Speaker: So that is a, I guess it's going to, the service is going to launch as a free registration only service to maximize audience engagement worldwide for PTO's flagship events this summer, starting with the inaugural PTO Canadian Open event.
Speaker: in Edmonton the 23rd and 24th and so yeah so it's free I don't even do that then it's free I don't know when I'd watch it I am so over all these streaming things oh my gosh I mean it's seriously like you get on the you get it like I've been you know traveling around I get on tv and you use like 10 options Hulu and Apple Plus and Netflix and Amazon and
Speaker: whatever whatever whatever and you're like oh my god i just want to watch a show you know right i know it's now it's getting hard which ones do you pick like the days of right just calling netflix good are kind of over right i mean i've had netflix for jesus it seems like as long as i've had my cell phones to see you get married to this stuff i've had netflix since they were mailing c dvds back and forth but
Speaker: Nowadays, it's kind of hard to know.
Speaker: If you were to start fresh, what would you choose?
Speaker: Same with all these sporting events.
Speaker: It's like, my God, it's hard to figure it out sometimes.
Speaker: It is.
Speaker: And, you know, and they add up, right?
Speaker: You know, pretty soon, you know, you're paying this for Disney and you're paying that for Netflix and this for Hulu.
Speaker: And yeah, it adds up fast.
Speaker: I need a orbits of, or when you pick your favorite travel thing, just give me one place.
Speaker: I'll check the boxes.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I'll just check the boxes of the stuff I want.
Speaker: You give me a total and we'll call it good instead of all these different subscriptions all over the place.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: There might be something.
Speaker: Is there a kayak of streaming services, right?
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Maybe there's a business idea, Rich.
Speaker: Screw all this podcast and triathlon stuff.
Speaker: Let's go make some money.
Speaker: Well, what's new in the 303, my friend?
Speaker: You know, I've been a little out of the 303, but all I know is we're in the heat of the summer, and we've got some premier bike events coming up, the Copper Triangle and the Triple Bypass, and obviously Boulder, but there's other triathlons happening.
Speaker: We've got even the Sprint up there in Loveland Piggies event, what's it called, the Lone Tree, not to be confused with Lone Tree Colorado, it's called the Lone Tree Sprint, which is outside of Loveland, and we've got
Speaker: yeah, it's just everybody's busy doing their stuff, right?
Speaker: And I've got my We Ride 4 event next weekend down in Lake City.
Speaker: So I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker: We ride from South Fork to Lake City, doing out and back from Lake City to Gunnison or near Gunnison and then back to South Fork.
Speaker: And I'm trying to prep a new course for Ride the Rockies.
Speaker: So working on that.
Speaker: Can't tell you much.
Speaker: Awesome.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So lots going on.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: We mentioned, um, the, uh, Pikes Peak cycling hill climb, which is rebranded, I guess the Broadmoor cycle to the summit, which is the race that we're talking about that August 13th race.
Speaker: Um, and I would love to do that, but I think I am going to be out of town.
Speaker: Unfortunately timeout a second though.
Speaker: You know, we've done Pike's Peak several times.
Speaker: And how in the hell do you race it, right?
Speaker: It's hard enough just to do it.
Speaker: Oh, my God, right?
Speaker: I mean, I don't feel like I have anything left when I just do it, let alone race it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: What would I do different?
Speaker: You know what I mean?
Speaker: Like, obviously, if you get in shape, I guess it's hard to do Pike's Peak anything but at your heartache.
Speaker: It is, right?
Speaker: Because I mean, even when you're pacing yourself, that section getting from crystal reservoir up to the brake check, I think that's the hardest section.
Speaker: Totally.
Speaker: I mean, I might argue with you to get up to where they drop people off for the shuttles before you- That last stretch?
Speaker: Yeah, that-
Speaker: I think I might add up after the brake check when you get to that next sort of plateau.
Speaker: I would put that in that category.
Speaker: But yeah, that's super hard.
Speaker: I can't go any harder.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That was a hard ride.
Speaker: It gets scarier the more I think about it.
Speaker: I don't know if I... It's like when you get out of the rhythm of doing it, now that you think about doing it again, you're like, oof.
Speaker: It's a grind.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Well, it's gorgeous though.
Speaker: It's, it's a neat ride and it's, I'd say anybody listening, if you want to notch a 14 or on your bike, on your bike, definitely.
Speaker: That is so much better than Mount Evans from a road perspective.
Speaker: Oh yeah.
Speaker: Totally.
Speaker: It's harder for sure.
Speaker: But, uh, I think it's worth it because downhill is much more pleasant.
Speaker: Well, I have a link here in the show notes, Bill, for all of the multi-sport events, all of the running events here in Colorado as well.
Speaker: So if folks want to browse those, you can.
Speaker: There's a lot of things that we have not mentioned that are in here as well.
Speaker: Awesome.
Speaker: Well, you have fun this weekend.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Well, thank you.
Speaker: We have some great upcoming guests.
Speaker: We've got six-time Ironman world champ, Mark Allen coming to join us to talk about his partner partnership with Tridot and the new Mark Allen addition training resources that people can use on that platform.
Speaker: We also have Tim Hola, who's going to join us to talk about the Norseman triathlon when he gets back after that race in early August.
Speaker: I actually saw that Slow Twitch was doing an interview with him in his backyard.
Speaker: He had a post in Instagram this week.
Speaker: So talking about his plans for Norseman.
Speaker: Thanks again for listening this week, folks.
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