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Balancing the Future Ep. 26 - Unlocking Leadership and Purpose with Jesse Rhodes Jr.
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In this inspiring interview, Jesse Rhodes Jr., an executive, author, and advocate for personal growth, shares his journey of resilience, leadership, and purpose. From overcoming challenges to writing his transformative book, Jesse emphasizes the power of self-love and vulnerability. He discusses financial literacy, navigating corporate shifts, and empowering the next generation to take action. This conversation is a powerful reminder to embrace your unique potential and create possibilities.
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Transcript
Introduction of Jesse Rhodes
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Welcome to another episode of Balancing the Future. And I'm telling you, today is special. And I say this a lot, but we've got Jesse Rhodes. Jesse Rhodes is an executive. He is.
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I mean, I won't go into the organizations that you've been a part of, but you're a sophisticated,
Journey to Authorship
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popular guy. But now I think what I'm most excited about, you're now an author. And that is fantastic.
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Welcome. but i'm Thank you you. You share as much as you think you need to share with the audience about yourself because they need to know who you are and why you're sitting here right now. I appreciate you.
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And I'm sure we'll get to me. My name is Jesse Rose and also Junior. I'll go to why the junior has been popular and and purposeful, even the creation of being an author. Thank you for having me on the show. i really appreciate being here, being present with
Life's Purpose and Roles
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you.
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And we're about to get into. And me is one thing is my purpose. I work with humans to create possibilities, not excuses. I took a book to get that one liner clear. And it was the book was a process. And I realized everything I do for being involved in nonprofits to even my day job at Amazon to what I do with this youth to now be teaching at University of Washington this fall. Wow.
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It all sits around that is what's with you? What's your assignment? First of all, get out your way, right? Do your value-based work. And once you understand that and you see what's clear in your mind, what you're out to do, take action.
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And I realized throughout my entire career in life, it's been that first generation going to college, first to do many things, break six figures. It was, going to keep learning and keep trying. to keep falling and keep getting back up.
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So that's me. I love humans. so All right. Fantastic. You know, I started thinking about just authors. Yes. And inspiration. Yes. And who becomes an author?
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Yes. Because I know those that have gone through the process, quite honestly, a lot of work. Yes. And not ah um not a lot of people want to put in that much work. Why'd you do it?
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Wow.
Inspiration and Writing Process
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It was a process. So, dear friends, one, you may know, Kevin Mowbray was actually a huge inspiration in my creation process.
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Early on, my Deloitte career, he kept saying, you need to be a you write a book. And back then and today, always done speaking engagements for, you know, high school students, college students, professionals within NABBA and beyond.
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And I light up. I just love doing it. And he said, you need to write a book. Fast forward probably 10, 15 years of Mike Miscali years. He kept saying, Jesse, you need to write that book. One time he came out to Seattle.
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We're hanging out. So I live now Seattle, Amazon headquarters. And he said it again. It's stuck. said, you know what? You've been consistent and persistent on it. I knew I needed to write this book.
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So what was holding me back? I was wondering what was holding me back. So fast forward, I actually went to this nice retreat. And while we're out there, I met some cool people. Veronica Berry, amazing woman in Seattle.
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And what she's out to create is space of energy and wellness. It is checking with yourself. So while i was out there, I said, want to write a book.
Public Speaking and Writing Preparation
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This time was different. Because someone else was in the room. He said, oh, I have a publisher for you.
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So now the idea became realized. because So first all, OK, now I'm accountable. I went from the idea I have a name to reach out to.
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So i gave Chris Vega a call from Blue Cactus Press. And I was like, hey, I want to write this book. And but I'm not a writer.
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And they were like, talk to me. How long have you been public speaking? I said, 25 years. OK, you've been writing your book for 25 years and it clicked.
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I had to write my book for 25 years. I am an author. So for me, your question is mindset. It was allowing me space and grace to see myself.
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And unlearned, someone my childhood told me could not write. don't know who that person was. I was a teacher a family member, but know someone. Probably a family member. You know how they sneak up on you. They sneak up on you know? Right?
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Right? And here I am thinking can't write. I've been writing my life. I'm working at Amazon. I'm executive. I write docs all the time, right? And I can't write my own story.
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Everyone has a story to be heard. And so that ah realized I is beyond just myself. It's my community. need to put these words onto paper.
Designing the Book's Cover
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OK, would you mind holding that book up? Oh, yeah, because I like the cover. Thank you. why does Why does that cover look the way it looks? Wow. Because that is unique.
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When I think about leadership unlocked and I see that cover, it's just unique. Yes. What do you see? Can see that question? You're going to ask me a question. I see a lot of different things. I see life.
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I see color. I see inspiration. I see just opportunity. I see beauty. So, yeah. Thank you for that. It's all those things and more, right? yeah Okay. Because it's what you see.
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I was intentional by having a cover that won't keep you at stop. Your mind will pick up things. had one year late show and she saw the connection to her culture.
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Mm-hmm. Spanish culture and the heart and a formation there. And the ripples go beyond the page. It's not restricted and confined to the shape of the book. It goes beyond.
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Right. And so for me, it was heart centered work. So i want to make sure you see your heart and see what comes to life for you. But i always love asking people, hey, what do you see? Because each time I do, I get additional nuggets of insights and perspective of not only what's on the cover, but what's it within you.
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Wow. So thank you for that. Now I feel better about myself. Yeah. So what's in there?
Themes of Self-Improvement and Action
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Man, think about this way. Three structures.
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First part. Get out your way. That's the value based work. Practice gratitude. Set boundaries.
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endurance, all the key pieces that we take for granted about where we are at stop. Unlearning behaviors, past trauma.
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And so I really intentionally lean in sharing personal stories. Myself, my children come up in the book. My friends come up in the book, cop my work. I'm also on the restaurant. and that's the first piece, look with it.
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The second part is the application. How do I apply ah my my work, my value-based work? By the way, that never ends, right? and Unless you're in the you know you're not no longer here, you're constantly looking with Fed to see where you unlock.
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The application is working with others. So for example, trust model. Provide, seek clarity. Hey, if i say I'm gonna move this book, you already have one perspective of what that means.
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I can move it to the left. I can move to the right, move it forward, backwards. I can wait till next week to move it. I can it with my hand or maybe use piece of paper move it.
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All these have layers to it, right? And so that providing that clarity, seeking that alignment. Okay, I don't practice boundaries, And I say yes to everything. And I said, I'm gonna move the book.
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But I don't have the capacity move the book. And you're like, Jesse, move the book. Right? And your mind, you're thinking that should be the right away. Well, I'm swamped. I'm overwhelmed. have so much going on.
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don't have time with the book. You know what? actually forgot to move the book because I'm overwhelmed with distractions of other things. Now I broke trust with you. And so those elements of practicing, setting boundaries, practicing gratitude, addressing fear, working through it, is so critical in how we work with others.
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When you address, align, you deliver, you inspire. Period. But not only inspiring others, but you inspire yourself.
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And so I dive into that piece saying, hey, you could do a lot in 24 hours. Well, if you could inspire 100 people, that's 2,400 hours. If you could inspire a million people, that's 24 million hours. Wow.
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Anything is possible when you work with others and you are a consistent in your message and how you deliver, too. And of course, so important, it wraps it all around just the heart.
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Love. Love yourself. Are you really loving yourself if you don't address fear? Are you really loving yourself you don't set boundaries?
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Think about that. Is that constant inspection and self-checking is critical in order to really inspire and be the fool you can be?
Action and Humanity in a Fast-Paced World
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What do you feel is going on right now?
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I don't know where this question is coming in the world today and all that's moving. and And as quickly as it's moving, what's going on? Oh, man. Because I know you like people.
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Yes. So what what do you feel? Thank you for that question. Energy is happening. That's what's happening. Because when I was going through the process. Right. And I was saying I was upset about the time I want the book out last year. Right. I come on. It's taking so long.
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And I realized patience is also in the key, you know, indicators in the book. And I had to be patient and give myself grace. And I realized, hold up, the world is forgetting the power humanity. Mm-hmm.
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And I know it's within us. We just saw it not so long ago during COVID folks leaning in and being home and had to restart, tap into humanity. We need an awakening.
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And so for me, it' if you said, besides saying create possibilities, not excuses, I also say, get out of your own way. yeah Hear your assignment.
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Take action. And I realized today people are sitting and not taking action. And that inaction itself isn't action. Think about that.
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You had stop with your own self and you see things you know you need to take response on. Now, it's impossible for you and I to fulfill every seat possible. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a lawyer. Right.
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And I realized if you are in your position and you understand your assignment, take action. that allow me the reality of the timing of this book, of the humanist component of we are all that we need and the world is desperate to make the impact that only you can make.
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I think we forgot that. I don't care if you have a twin or how many siblings, you are uniquely sculpture created. You have lived experiences, impacts, trauma.
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as I check, learn how to walk. You fell a few times, right? Absolutely. Of course. But we didn't stop. We got up. We were inspired by those around us that were walking too. I would have walked like my parents, you know, or my siblings.
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So you got back up, fell again, got back up. Listen, whoever's listening, get back up. We need you. We need you in here. need you working. Take action from your seat.
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We love you. We appreciate you. You know, when I think about, because I think there's a generation, or maybe there's two generations that are trying to figure it out. And you've got these folks that have come up and through COVID.
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And it's a younger generation. I won't call out which one it is. Yeah. But there's a younger generation. Yeah. When you see what's going on with them, because i can I know me. I know how I was raised and my fears and why I'm doing what I'm doing. but I think they're confused or they need some assistance.
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Does this help? Oh, big time. It help
Challenges for Younger Generations
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helps. to say keep Thank you for that question. And um so I'm a proud father. I have a beautiful son, 26 years old. Can't believe it.
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have a beautiful daughter that just graduated from college, WPI, Worcester Polytech Institute. She masters and bachelors in four years, robotics engineer.
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Blessed to have my son with me in Seattle. He moved out there with me. said, Dad, you going? I'm going. Right. Cool. And i share that from the lens of a father. And I'm impressed on one, the access to information to add.
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How they communicate is different than what we're used to. We're used to the phone calls and, you know, helping pick up the phone. They communicate through tools and gaming and social media. Right. OK, I'm learning. I'm seeing your your style of communication have shifted.
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Got it. Hungry. And I also see a significant and high rate of imposter syndrome. Okay. Right? Being home, that COVID period, kind of interact with others.
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Gaming, that's from afar, right? So I can be open, be my full personality behind the console or laptop, whatever, right? Oh, you want me engage and work through conflict management?
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What's that? want me to sit up and speak in front a large room about what's possible, what I'm out to create. How do that? So I was very intentional about saying, hey, I see, the way, don't know what human doesn't have imposter syndrome.
00:14:40
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And I'll small analogy. Picture you sitting in front of a pool. Right now, don't know about you. We know pools are pretty cold when you go in. Right? Oh, yeah.
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Now, some of us jump right into it. Like, splash and all. know what? There's one time, one time i jumped in the pool.
Corporate Changes and AI
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And it was so cold, I got right back out. Only one time i actually happened. That's his pool. was the pool. was friggy. And I got back out. But besides those, that one time in my entire life, by the way, y'all, I stayed in the pool, warmed up.
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And I share that analogy because some folks may never get in the pool. They just sit there by the side, but they made him, not even put their toe in it. Oh, I'm gonna sit inside, I'm gonna enjoy son. And nothing wrong with that, by the way, I'm just letting you know. Other folks will run backwards and just leap in and take the full splash, full show.
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And others would walk right in And so what i break into here is understand we all have that immediate hesitation of the cold. Some still just jump right in and then work through what it is there to work through.
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And I offer those who decide not to put your toe in the water, jump in. How bad can it be? And if it's frigid, get back out. Try not to pull.
00:15:56
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You know what I feel is based on what's going on is that's so much change. It's like it's overwhelming the amount of change. And I can see what's happening within corporate America. I've been, you know, I've been in corporate America for over 25 years.
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And I know it when it was a certain version. And now but within the last 15 years, yeah it's just moved incredibly fast. And you've got the human component of it. That's trying to figure out what the heck is going on. I mean, what do you see when you see how things how the environment's changed in corporate? And I'm not trying to make it all about corporate, but it's important to understand what's happening to the human equation.
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Big time. I mean, what is it? What what do you see yeah Because I like to see if others see what I see because yeah and you may have been around as long as i don't know. but yeah yeah As long as i i am proud, proud. 49 Oh, this year. There you go. I'm excited.
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share because those live moments, that all the punches and bruises in between contribute and also to 25 plus years in corporate America. I grew up at Dolly and Touche, was there for total of 10 years. Ernst & Young as well, still family to me. They are here present um to working at.
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Walmart. and I was a director for data analytics and I was also at Target. Awesome. Post breach. So the cyber cyber hit right? Remember that time, the credit card? I remember that.
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And I came on board and we were responsible to provide responses. hey am I'm just coming to the company and learning the culture of the company and I'm helping saying, here's where we want to strip and i our framework and our our environment, right?
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And work with those tech teams to now Amazon. I had chance to play in different various roles from risk management to HR, DEI. I said DEI,
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right? It's wellness now. It's wellness now. Well-being, right? A well-being. yeah are you want to look yeah Together, at all different beautiful terms. right is The humanist component.
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And the work is the work has always been the same. The work is the work. I think about with AI, even today, people getting worried about AI. I'd embrace that. I'd do different cool things. I'm learning. I equate it to the days where, and I'm redating myself, when people are all concerned about Microsoft Excel and Microsoft database and Access and PowerPoint.
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And we're going to put that in your resume, proficient in Microsoft Word or the whole Microsoft suite. Right. That was the thing. Yeah. AI is that today. It's accelerated. It's taking big, big complications and make it simplistic and you calculate and compute response.
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OK. Your role will look different throughout my 25 year career. My role has shifted. And to be nimble, guess what? You're different too, right? And so embracing and working through and not being that they're stuck and say, oh my gosh, I went to college.
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And I'll tell you this, I think about all the software development engineering SDEs, right? How they're thinking through and pivoting this time of shift and say, okay, how has this impacted my career?
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I always believe as you're working, as you're living and experiencing, think about that. Hey, how are we evolving and impacting our career? Period. It's not a bad thing.
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Here's the part that's a challenge. So that's the that's that's the technical part. That's the job part, being innovative, moving with flow and ease. Being willing to constantly learn. i always tell people, and I'm guilty too, y'all, where you're in these corporate spaces that offer all this amazing training, and we don't always take advantage of it, getting back to boundaries.
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We're constantly running hard and fast to to make others feel good in our mind, really ourselves, it's whole other conversation, right? That you neglect the continuous growth as theirs. That's one.
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On the humanist side, this is the shift.
Individuality in the Workplace
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People are forgetting to see people as people at work. i don't like that. because it shows up. I mentioned conflict management earlier.
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When someone is stressed or working through fear, they have a default way of being. Being like, I'm gonna react to this matter a certain way, because throughout my life I learned way of being.
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So for me in the book, I mentioned about putting the mask on and smiling and being happy. Because when you're smiling being happy, one's gonna ask you questions. I could be going through serious, heavy things in my life.
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I'm smiling and being happy. But then I realized much later that people felt in my energy a disconnect. He's smiling and being happy, but i feel something different.
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And you break trust unintentional. You don't seem more authentic. You're not connecting. So imagine I showed my leadership work. I work with my team. I'm smiling, being happy. yeah And they're like, no, we want to feel this moment. with this This project, it hurts or whatever, sucks, whatever, right?
00:21:14
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Lean with it. Feel it. Express it. Then work through it. And if you don't do things like, that is it, this guy, Jesse, is he dialed in? Is he connected? Is he a leader here?
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we have that support? Is he empathetic, right? course I am. But thought I'd wear the mask. And I see that happens too often with leaders where they stress and they may trust less.
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Where in those moments of stress, we need to trust more. Work with your team. Here's what's coming up for me. Here's a challenge. Love your perspective. Let's work through this. Know what? I'm uncomfortable right now.
00:21:50
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not sure I have the answer. But collectively, let's get to the answer. That is a powerful leader. Instead, but have conflict. We won't write the person off, say, oh, they don't work well with me.
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um They are not performing or whatever term we want to get. reality was is a breakdown between two individuals because they couldn't work through Tough moments.
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I see it way too often in corporate America. It goes unchecked. HR is not there for that reason. is there to help manage and support the company. Absolutely. We forget this sometimes.
00:22:25
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So the root of what's happening, they can try and do some evidence and try and stand and look and die then. But reality is, hey, we need to risk manage this. Y'all couldn't figure it out. Y'all could have. We wouldn't be here.
00:22:38
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Fair point. as opposed to getting to the root of what's really a question, be vulnerable enough to share it. Vulnerability is a significant strand.
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And as a result, get the other side and probably build something better as a result. So to me, that was critical to say, I say all my 25 plus years, that part is what's missing in our work and our society today.
00:23:08
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So why do you care about financial literacy? Because I know that's a sweet spot for you. Why do you care about financial literacy?
Financial Literacy and Personal Empowerment
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So big.
00:23:19
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In the book, too, it's about address fear. And the first thing comes up is finance. Money. keeps us at stock. One thing, money is and energy.
00:23:30
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It flows. It doesn't have any value but what we give it. like, what do mean he has no value to give it? Okay, last I checked, a $1 bill was almost like a $100 bill.
00:23:42
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Does that $100 bill know the difference between a $1 bill? No, it's piece of paper, right? We'll print from the same, right? The flow of that cash and what we have as a bargaining system, finance 101, right?
00:23:54
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We operate in agreement of that transaction between the $100 versus $1. Got it. god When folks can get comfortable with the basis of financial.
00:24:05
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And understand, my daughter and my son them out, hey, how much to save? And I was so proud. She was graduating and she wanted to meet. Hey, dad, can we meet? Sure. had a phone call. She pulled up her spreadsheet and it was already outlining. It's usually a good school for robotics engineering. She pulled up her P&L and said, okay, dad, here's my new job and I want to work through much need saved in my 401k.
00:24:29
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I was so proud, right? Because you take those steps. That's all it is, y'all. Steps to say, let me get informed. If I don't have, especially today, can look up things. I go to sessions. I can Google, chat, GBT, right? and other tools out there, right?
00:24:46
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um And not be stopped by it. Just be informed. So for me, I realized the importance is two things. One, need a roof over my house. I need room. need place to live. I need any need shelter.
00:25:00
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I need to feed my family, be a provider. need feed myself. Survive. Put the oxygen mask on. and Keep going. It's a basic human right. And so from financial literacy is understand how energy ah the of that dollar moves and how you can grow it.
00:25:18
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And repurpose it. So for me, look at the channel of pouring into as much as possible I can pour back out to others. You have to keep your cup full in order to pour into others.
00:25:29
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And so your have financial pieces, hey, nothing worse than being stopped. I can't help my sister or my parents or my or whomever. ah Tough times because I wasn't pouring into my own cup.
00:25:44
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I'll come with this. Oh, I'm going to the bank. I can't. Oh, I can't actually help my parents out right now because what? So that's why it's important for me is how do I help you individually see that money's energy and flows?
00:26:02
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You embrace it. You're not stopped by it. You don't let your internal fear of, oh, my gosh, I'm a little bad because my credit score is this.
00:26:14
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Well, I'm a little No, actually share that, hey, my credit score is this. I need your help. And I love to get to the other side. Own it. And it's okay.
00:26:25
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You don't look bad. You're you. You're human. So that's the point. How to make it comfortable people. Yeah, unless I check, when I grew up, I met my parents. They didn't teach you those all of those details.
00:26:36
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You go to work, they're not teaching you those details. They want to pay you just barely enough money to have you come back the next day to produce and keep you in a system as long as they can before you retire. Because that's not their job either.
00:26:52
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Whose job is it? Yourself. Absolutely. And it's okay not to know. But if you don't tell me you need help, I can't help you. There's nine, almost with nine billion humans in the world.
00:27:05
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There's a lot of Why do I need to do it by myself? No. So that's the importance of financial literacy for me. So when I think about advice and I think we need advice.
00:27:18
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Yeah. And i look at the professionals out there today that are coming up and through the system. Yeah. And those that are entering the profession, what advice do you have for them?
Creating Possibilities from Failures
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Create possibilities, not excuses.
00:27:35
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Okay. Think about that. In every situation, what's possible? Got it. Okay. Let me work through that and see you to the side and enroll others in that process.
00:27:47
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Yeah, you're going to have some bumps and bruises. Okay. That happens. Okay. That's just good data points. A lot times you're always winning. You don't see your misses in the process, right? We know, especially in sports, you've seen folks get to the top of their sport, it Super Bowl, whatever it may be, whatever sport it is, and they, right there, crash.
00:28:06
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Ah, unless you crash a couple students, you know, sooner, right? But in their case, that was they learning. It's never a wrong time to crash, by the way, y'all, right? You learn from it. And so for me, is that create possibilities, not excuse. I got another one for you.
00:28:21
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This is so important.
00:28:24
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The world is desperate to make the impact that only you can make. Okay. And I got that beautiful message long clear years ago that we forget that we ourselves individually bring you beautiful uniqueness.
00:28:46
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don't care you twin or how many siblings you have. Each of y'all are beautifully designed.
00:28:55
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And with that, as you navigate the world, people want to hear your story. They want to hear your perspective. Think about this. I mentioned Walmart, Target, Amazon, Deloitte, Ernst & Young.
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When I'm in that room having a conversation, oh, by the way, I'm also on the restaurant, wrote a book, right? On nonprofit boards. All those elements of me comes to the table.
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I don't segment that. When a problem comes up, I'm root-causing it. Guess what? I'm pulling from Deloitte, Walmart, Target, my restaurant, Poco, right? Days, two, you pull all those elements.
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So that's my encouragement and my advice. I guess the next question is, because I know history and sometimes it can overshadow, it can confuse us.
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How do you not allow that to happen? Mm hmm. Because I know it does. and that it I have to overcome things. I think we all have to overcome things.
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So how do you, I know I managed it a certain way, but the way I managed it may not be the way that you'd manage it. But what do you what do you see?
Power of Vulnerability
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Is one thing is own it.
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And the power of being vulnerable.
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Writing a book. Okay, that was one level. sharing the manuscript. That was another level. And then you read it.
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You got to tell me how to react to it. Then it's the release day. Now it's available to the world. People give me feedback.
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But the biggest one was recording a book because I hear my own self tell my own story to the world. so okay
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But when you do that,
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It's a sense of release of this weight that's attached to it.
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And you realize you're just as human as everyone else. And we take off those masks, the weight of that iron, the heaviness, take it off.
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You feel lighter. And he's when you own the moment, they say, yeah, that happened to me. And it guess what learned from it? And we ask this all the time, interview questions too. Hey, give me difficult situation and how you work through it.
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That's life. What you learn from those difficult situations and how you evolve it is your power. And I should limit to the capability.
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So reframe. Okay. Awesome. Daily. Refrain. Okay. So if he could go back and change anything. Would you? No.
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Because I've had that question asked to me and I'm like, I'm not changing anything. I'm i'm comfortable. Yeah. No. and change anything. Correct. And I shared no for, because if you change anything, it changed everything.
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I would not be sitting with you here right now with one dinner point. Was it change? This would not have occurred. Right? i think back to my childhood as a young individual, got into a fight and a day off from school.
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Walking home, he said some choice words, get off my block. Looked not so nice as that. I took action. hit him. Not the best decision.
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said, oh no, I'm actually on his block. I'm by myself. Not smart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fortunately, was able to work through that I got away, got home. I'm upset. This guy made me run home from school. I'm embarrassed. like I got to deal with this tomorrow. Ego, right? The ego comes up.
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My mom said, you better not do anything tomorrow. And I said, okay. The next day comes, I see him. And I see him smile in my mind, smiling, and laughing at me, again, ego.
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I'm in the show. What I do again. hit the kid. This time, he came ready. He striked back. Hit me right my wrist.
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And I walked back. I wore glasses back then, too. So I can't really see clear. I'm near the So my glasses off. And he kept saying, Jesse, Jesse, Jesse, look. And I looked down on my arm. And I could see blood everywhere.
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He cut me. He stabbed me. Wow. Didn't know. They rushed me to the hospital. The first thing to my mind was, not a stab. My mom's going to kill me. Yeah, exactly. A brand new jacket, all over it.
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And I think about the cut on my wrist, how close it was. Nothing that came to my mind. i was like, I'm in trouble. She said, I did this kid. And I did it. And now look at me. And fast forward, that led to both getting kicked school, technically, right?
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Got kicked out of school. And I say technically, ah got a second chance. I went to Catholic school, an amazing priest said, Jesse's a good kid. never gets into trouble. He's given him second chance.
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My dad took me down to a new school. and He said, hey, they asked you, what do you want to do when you grow up? Say accounting. I'm like, what's accounting? Yeah, you like math, like numbers, right?
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like money. Say accounting. Okay. They never asked that question, but it stuck with me. Okay. So went to take class. I got an A. Ooh, okay, I actually do look like accounting.
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I get A again. My teachers recommend me to go to college and say, do Drexel University. I applied to one school, Drexel University. I got into one school, Drexel University. Rest progressed.
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First generation, like I mentioned earlier. Well, I found it later. Now, unfortunately, the other kid, his name is Aaron, went down a different path, got into more trouble.
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Two kids at one point of conflict. oh Got into more trouble, lost his life.
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I've been committed ever since. And I look back and realize that survival guilt of what can I do for my seat to help the next Aaron make a different decision and still be here.
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So I'm always saying, is an Aaron in the room? or someone knows an Aaron, someone knew an Aaron. And every time I speak, I'm impacted with someone at that level.
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And so my commitment is create possibilities in every situation, work through tough points, and not be held back by and hit challenges. That, my friend, is what drives me to the day and will always drive me to my last breath.
00:35:55
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Man, that is awesome. So on top of that, And I'm thinking about this is the last question. In summary, what do you want to tell the audience?
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You can take it from the book or you can just take it from you because I've sat with you now and I know that you're very comfortable in che and cheering. Yeah. And you're very open. So what do you want to leave with this audience?
Self-Love and Taking Action
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So I always ask the question. This is you can tell your your younger version of yourself, one thing. What is it? So I'm speaking to each y'all to tell yourself today and your younger version.
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I love you.
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Sometimes we forget to love ourself. I love you. You're beautiful, amazing and whole. Just as who you are.
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Get out of your own way. Don't let that internal voice tell you stuff that's not true. It's risk management 101. Oh my gosh, is the seat going to make me fall down? Is that door going to open up? We're always doing it. We're running cycles of thoughts in our minds. It's often negative.
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We're not giving ourselves love and grace and space to just be. give yourself that space and grace and love to just be now.
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You have that and understood. have clarity in thoughts. You can hear your thoughts with clarity. Not all the noise and oh my gosh, and this, that. Oh, I'm not good enough. I can't write. i can't this, that.
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I need my word out. Oh, whatever that is for you. Just follow through with action. And yes, you're going trip. Get back up. Love yourself.
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It's okay. What I learned from that trip, share it, maybe laugh about it, embrace it, and move forward. So I can leave anything. is I love you.
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Tell yourself that. Write it on piece of paper. I love you. You are perfectly you. I'm going to embrace my fullness. And I realize that I am all I need.
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working with beautiful other humans to make what's possible, possible. That's fantastic.
Conclusion and Access to the Book
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Thank you for your time. Thank you, Thank you for being here. Thank you for the book. Thank you, man. Thank you. know and Tell people where didn't get the book. Oh, yes. a two Well, of course, you know, like oh Amazon. Of course, I was about to say, it's got to be Amazon. Right? Also, my personal website.
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um One thing I didn't share is somebody, Jesse Rose Jr. It's G-S-S-E-R-H-O-D-E-S, like Rodez, Rose Scholar. I love saying that. Junior.com. That junior is so important.
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I used to always keep Junior kind of tucked my back pocket. Not that I wasn't proud of him. I love Junior. My dad, I love my dad. He's amazing human. A big role model for me and my beautiful parents, my dad and my mom, been married for 57 years.
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Right? Still, they go on dates still to this day. Right? Junior was like personal. Right? It was something to keep proud very public, outgoing. But the Junior brings so much life and family to it.
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And took this amazing friend, my one friend, Lana, and others, where he woke me up to the power and lend power of junior. And my attachment was this. used to call me, going to say it, though I'm going to own it. It's called Little Jesse growing up. Little Jesse, Little Jesse, Little Jesse.
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And when passed my dad in height when I was like 13, I said, Dad, I'm not Little Jesse no more. I'm Big Jess because I'm taller than you. He said, nope. long as you're a junior, you're always Little Jess.
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There goes attachment. I connected Lil' Jess with Junior. is not true. I had disconnected that. And realize little Jess was powerful. I was a little version of my powerful father. And that's embrace that.
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And Junior gives me a chance to celebrate that to the world. So jessierosejunior.com is my site. Also, I have it recorded.
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So it's on iTunes and Audible. And I have to tell y'all, while giving away the secrets, on the recording, there's some special treats in there. Okay. And I love when folks listen to the audible that's different than a physical copy or digital copy. I'm on Kindle well.
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Send me a note. I love to hear. my gosh. I, Corey, it's a couple on there and audible that's pretty transformative. Fantastic. Well, thanks again for being with us.
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And I'm going to tell the audience, you know, what I pull from this is that, you know, be patient with yourself, understand your past. Love yourself, know that you're important and just take it easy every single day because it's just going to be another day around the corner.
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So we think, but don't be hard on yourself. That's all I have for today. Thank you for joining us on Balancing the Future and I look forward to the next conversation.