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Goal Line: Dem Dolphinz
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The Pod Warriors discuss Miami's big win, all the football over Christmas weekend, and the Ravens stunning performance on Monday Night Football that they watched live while podding.
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Introduction & Christmas Edition
00:00:14
Speaker
What is up goal line listeners? We are back with a special Christmas night edition of the goal line. That's right. There are no days off for me and Jordan. We only got a couple of weeks left in the regular season and we were not going to miss bringing you a podcast live during this heavyweight matchup of the Ravens and the 49ers. Jordan, what's going on, man? How was Christmas?
00:00:33
Speaker
Christmas was good, man. It's just always, uh, such a hectic weekend or a couple of days, wherever you want to call it. I know this weekend or this year it happened to fall on a Sunday, Monday. So it made it a little bit better, but, um, yeah, man, it was, it was hectic, but, uh, some good football this weekend and, uh, got a good game going tonight. So yeah, man, everything's good here.
00:00:57
Speaker
Yeah, same with us, man. I kind of feel you. I'm kind of at the point of exhaustion. You guys just heard me pop the top. It's actually the first beer I cracked open today, man. I just been hanging out with the kids, putting together toys, playing, watching movies. We sat down and watched your Christmas story for the first time from start to finish, man. The kids really dug that. So yeah, it has been a long day, man. I'm looking forward to having a real chill day tomorrow for I got to go back to work on Wednesday. Are you back at work? Or no, you guys are hitting on vacation tomorrow, huh? Yeah, dude, tomorrow morning we leave at seven for Colorado.
Holiday Adventures and Movie References
00:01:25
Speaker
No rest for the wicked here. I got to drive us the whole way through. Nebraska had a decent snowstorm today and there were some shitty roads, but it looks like it's all going to be cleared up by tomorrow morning. What's that drive like, man? It's about eight and a half hours. It's not too bad. Are you already close enough? Are you already past that fork in the road that Harry and Lloyd took the wrong way on Dumb and Dumber?
00:01:52
Speaker
Or are you going past that intersection? No, I'll go past that. We'll go past that on 80. You need to get a picture on social media of it tomorrow, man, as you go past it, dude. I sure thought those Rocky Mountains would be a lot more rocky. I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit. All right, man. You ready to get in and talk some football?
Kansas City Chiefs vs. 2019 Patriots
00:02:12
Speaker
Yeah, let's do it.
00:02:21
Speaker
I figured since this is going to be the last time in quite a while, we're talking football on Christmas, at least NFL football. There's no better way to start this than to talk about the games today so far in the first half of what we've seen tonight.
00:02:36
Speaker
Dude, I've said it. I've just kept harping it for the last two months. The Chiefs are nowhere near the powerhouse that they have been in the past. Dude, it keeps showing its ugly head. Their offense is not good, man. Today was rock bottom. Yeah.
00:02:52
Speaker
I mean the defense played their ass off, dude. I think the Raiders scored six or seven points against the defense. I saw a stat, I don't think O'Connell completed a pass in the second half of the game, man. Like the defense balled out, but the offense is just absolutely abysmal, man. You know, those back to back turnovers.
00:03:09
Speaker
They're in the second quarter really pretty much lost in the game if the if the offense was just neutral all day I think the Chiefs win that game, but yeah, it's it's definitely time to hit the panic button man You know all season long we've been saying they still got my homes. They still got my homes, but
00:03:24
Speaker
it right now, dude, I'm getting very strong 2019 Patriots vibes. Remember that was that your Patriots started out eight. No, they weren't really kicking anybody's ass, but they had a really good start. And then the cracks started to show the second half of the season. They ended up limping towards the playoffs and you're still thinking cause they got Brady, they'll be fine. But they went out and got smoked that first playoff game by a younger, more aggressive Tennessee Titans team that season. And it's dude at this point, it's hard to, it's hard to picture the, uh, the chiefs having a different fate unless they luck out and draw the Steelers or something in the first round.
00:03:54
Speaker
I'm getting very, very nervous about Kansas city, uh, making it to the divisional round of the playoffs.
Eagles' Troubles and Rumors
00:03:59
Speaker
And I would not have said that at all, uh, you know, a month ago or even a couple of weeks ago, dude, they're going to end up playing the Browns or somebody like that in round one. And that is going to be a nightmare scenario for them. Like, yeah, they don't want to catch no hungry physical team. I mean, the team might play like the Raiders did today, you know? Yeah. Or, or they end up catching or not the chiefs, the, the bills, like dude, chiefs catch bills or Browns. I know what we're saying here, but.
00:04:24
Speaker
dude I don't think they want to play either one of those teams round one like I just I feel like both those teams are playing at such a high level right now and the Chiefs are not and it started to bubble over to the sideline like
00:04:39
Speaker
homes was always kind of a, I mean, he's a quarterback dude. They all want to be babied by the NFL. So I feel like me just saying it's him is unfair to him, but it does seem like he's whining a lot more this year than he has in past years, but it is really starting to bubble over and you can tell they're extremely frustrated. And, um, somebody brought it up today, man. And I really hadn't given this too much thought. This is their first year without the enemy and they got nagging on the plays instead.
00:05:09
Speaker
I saw that too, man. I saw today, man, that that was the thing. I don't know. I mean, it's definitely possible, but it's not like Washington has really been setting the world on fire. You know, he went over to cover for them. I think it's the personnel, man. I think it has, you know, to quote old Lou Holtz quote from way back in the day. I don't think it's the X's and O's. I think it's the Jimmy's and Joe's.
00:05:30
Speaker
Yeah, their offensive line is nowhere near as good. That's pretty obvious. Yeah, I mean, dude, the times the Chiefs offense actually looked, I won't say competent, but the times they actually moved the ball today, it was literally just flag football playground style. Mahomes was just dropping back and taking off, dude. It was like, you know, he was playing mad 2004 and just spamming Michael Vick Scrambles, dude. That's the only time they were productive today. The biggest problem is, I mean, Rishi Rice is a good player, but
00:05:57
Speaker
I've been saying for two months, like who are you going to count on when he comes down the stretch? Kelsey has not played well in basically two months.
Ravens' Victory and 49ers' Struggles
00:06:04
Speaker
He's had eight straight games being held less than a hundred yards, which is really incredible. If you think about how productive he was all the way up till
00:06:14
Speaker
until this season man so yeah it's either he's just falling off a cliff production wise you know maybe it's Taylor Swift effect or there's some injury going on but something is up because that dude has been too good for too long to completely just fall off the you know fall off the map at the snap of the finger
00:06:30
Speaker
Yeah. And the other thing is, is one thing about him is he's always been like so professional. Like there's never been like a time where you can look back and think like, man, Travis Kelsey is really imploding this team, but dude, him slamming his helmet on the sideline. Andy Reed was fucking pissed. The, the staffer tried to give Kelsey his helmet back and Andy Reed's like, no, no, no, just keep his helmet. He doesn't need to go back in the game. Like,
00:06:55
Speaker
imagine watching your offense play that poorly and you say, Oh, we don't need our best player to go back in the game. Like that, that's where it's at for the chiefs right now. It's, it's weird to watch. Cause it's just not something we've been used to since the homes has been there, but it's here,
Lions' and Browns' Historic Wins
00:07:11
Speaker
man. They don't, uh, unless they just like are lulling everybody to sleep and they just flip a switch when it gets to the playoffs, which I don't think that's what's happening, man. Like when you're relying on, uh, Caderius Tony and
00:07:25
Speaker
Valda Scanlon who is there's no switch there dude. I mean it would take my home Like I said, you know me and Jordan our buddy Hawk were texting dude I think my homes does have it in him to just go on a straight-up like legacy cementing run and carry them But you know you're putting just a tremendous amount of pressure on him and everything's got to go right right your defense has got to continue playing Lights out week in and week out against some really really tough teams and then hope that my homes can just you know put that Superman cape on and take them all the way and
00:07:54
Speaker
But yeah, as good as my homes is, I still think he's a good as he's ever been. Um, I just don't see it happening this season at this point. Yeah, it's pretty tough to envision. I mean, it's just not playing well at all. Um, moving to the second game of the day, Eagles and giants. Dude, I don't know what the hell happened to this Eagles team, man. They're just, it, nothing about it in the past month has looked the same.
00:08:21
Speaker
There's a rumor that AJ Browns pissed at Sirianni right now. Hassan Reddick and somebody else was yelling at Sirianni at the end of the game. AJ Brown skipped his press conference after the game like.
00:08:34
Speaker
Things are not good in Philadelphia right now, man. I know there's some Titans fans that are taking solace in that because that was the group on like, you know, Titans Reddit and then like the, you know, hardcore local like Nashville media. The you know, the AJ Brown trade truthers, the thing they would always hang on to.
00:08:53
Speaker
Is this guy's
Dolphins' Gritty Win & Cowboys' Road Woes
00:08:54
Speaker
got a bad attitude and they kept saying just wait till it starts to go bad in Philly, dude This guy's gonna start kicking up shit causing drama That was the one thing that they said that why it was worth it to the Titans Just go ahead and move on from when they could because he would end up being a problem now I still think his talent outweighs, you know I think twice as big a headache as he's been and it still be worth it because dudes a freaking stud But uh, but yeah, there there had been rumblings that he was kind of could be a problem child in the locker room prior to this also Yeah
00:09:22
Speaker
I mean, dude, that might be part of it, but I don't know. I feel like the Eagles were so used to just playing ahead in every game last season and they really just cruised in the second half of every game last year. They're finding themselves in tight games against teams that they should be beating.
00:09:42
Speaker
I don't know, man. I think I still think they're fine. Honestly, I do still think that that team's completely fine. Their defense is obviously a problem, but their offense can score enough points, keep them in any game. But how about Tyrod Taylor, man? What do we got to do to get Tyrod Taylor started job? Once again, dude goes out dropping dimes, man. Damner leads him to freaking win in the game, man. Like I just I got so much love for Tyrod Taylor. And I feel like he's never gotten a fair shake in the NFL. Poor Tommy Cutlets, man.
00:10:11
Speaker
The Tommy, Tommy fell into the bus, dude. You know, I don't know if you saw the ball's comments in the post game press conference. He said the team just needed a spark. He said it wasn't necessarily about that. You know, DeVito was playing that badly. They didn't need to get benched, but they just needed a spark and sometimes just putting in a, you know, an experienced backup quarterback is.
00:10:29
Speaker
is, I mean, there's really nothing else you can really do. You know what I mean? There's nothing else
Falcons' Quarterback Dilemma
00:10:32
Speaker
you could try to kind of just jolt your offense to life. And we saw it yesterday with, uh, with the commanders and they put Jacoby Brissett in. Yeah. Still not good for Tommy cutlets that I fear Tommy cutlets is, uh, I think it's 15 minutes or up. I just,
00:10:48
Speaker
I don't know, man. Yeah, I think he's definitely going to be, he's going to be like the chapter right after, uh, Lynn sanity when it comes to like New York sports. Yeah, it sucks. I liked watching him, but these last couple of weeks have not been his, uh, his shining moment. Um, let's just, we'll, we'll just touch briefly on the first half of this game. Um, Brock Purdy, three interceptions.
00:11:12
Speaker
I don't really know what you can read out of that other than the Ravens defense is playing really good football. The first red zone pick was brutal. He didn't see the safety coming across the middle. Great play by the safety. That one was unforgivable. The other two, I mean, I'm not going to call them flukes because the Ravens made those plays by putting pressure on. But I don't think they're like, they weren't like
00:11:35
Speaker
You know like a Kirk cousin style and reception where you just straight up you know they were like the first reception proctor so we'll see what he does man his MVP status is definitely hanging by a thread right now I think he's got to come back and win this game or all the 49ers MVP love is gonna get shifted over to Christian McCaffrey but
00:11:53
Speaker
You know, as bad as that first half was, they're down by four points at halftime. It's anybody's game. I've been really impressed with the Ravens, man. They're good. Offense is played under control, unspectacular, but under control. You know, they're a referee, Mortal Kombat, leg sweep away from, you know, having a really, really clean game on offense in the first half. But yeah, it's going to be fun to see, man. What's your read on it right now? I think if I'm calling it right now, I say the, I think the Niners still get the win by a field goal.
00:12:19
Speaker
I think the Niners win because I think that last possession they had, they started to lean on McCaffrey again. I'm gonna be honest with you, dude, I never really understood the, the pretty MVP talk, considering he's not even the best player on his team. Dude, McCaffrey is the, the thing that runs that offense. If he can run the ball and they, they can stay ahead of the chains, that offense works. When they don't, they get into third and tens. The offense not is not the same. So I've been on the McCaffrey should be there.
00:12:49
Speaker
their, uh, is their best player and should be their lead MVP candidate for awhile.
Rookie of the Year: Puka Nacua vs. CJ Stroud
00:12:54
Speaker
I mean, dude, honestly, if you're giving out an MVP award this year, I don't know how you can watch the Ravens and not think it's a little more. Honestly, that dude has to do so much to keep his team in the game. It's just the numbers, bro. The only reason he's not running away with it this season is because the numbers don't match up with the eye test. You know, unless, unless you are watching the games, like you said, you don't realize how well this guy's playing, man.
00:13:16
Speaker
He has to literally do everything for this team, man. I don't watch obviously all the Ravens games, but watching the first half of this game, he literally has to do every single thing for this offense to work. There's nobody else on the team that can just take over. He doesn't have a Christian McCaffrey to hand the ball off to and just lean on him. No, you're the running back, the quarterback. You're whatever we need you to be on offense.
00:13:43
Speaker
Yeah, so much of their success on offense is based off of the defense having to be on their heels because the threat of him taking off on a read option or just taking off out of the pocket, man. That's really kind of the catalyst for everything else that they do. So yeah, the numbers just absolutely do not tell the story with Lamar Jackson this season. Probably, if not his best year ever, it's a close second to that 2019 year where he did win the MVP. Yeah.
00:14:09
Speaker
Okay, let's move off. I'm with you. I do think the Niners win, but let's move to the rest of the weekend. Let's start with two teams that deserve the love. Lions are NFC North champions for the first time in their franchise's history. It was pretty cool, honestly, seeing them win it.
NFL Game Predictions
00:14:32
Speaker
I had some mixed feelings before the season about this team. I don't know. I just, it's always weird here in the lions being good and in the same sentence. So it's weird, but we had to give love to them. Um, here's, I got to offer a quick correction from last week on the lions. I know I was talking like I was in amazement on it.
00:14:50
Speaker
I didn't even, I wasn't even thinking about it that, you know, the NFC North has only been around since 2002 when they were saying it was going to be, you know, first, first NFC North championship in franchise history. Cause I was thinking like, man, how is that even possible? And I remembered a couple of years that they had some, some decent playoff runs with Barry Sanders. And that's when I remembered, Oh yeah, they used to be in the NFC central and it's the, it was the first time in 30 years they've won a division title.
00:15:16
Speaker
Yeah, still awesome. I mean, it's still a crazy stat that somehow you go 30 years without winning a, you know, four or five team division, whether it was in the old alignment or the new one. But yeah, I just want to offer that one from last week. Because I remember when they're in the game yesterday, they were saying they were going to win for the first time in 30 years. And I was like, what the fuck? I was like, I could have swore we said last week on the show was our first one ever. And yeah, so just a little brain fart by me. I mean, that's still a really long time for
00:15:45
Speaker
Like you're saying it like that's not a long time 21 years in the same division to not one one division crowd it is ridiculous But yeah, but I was thinking it was literally the first time ever man. So yeah hats off to the Lions I just did I hope they don't go one and done I want to see the Lions get to the conference championship this season or at the very least you got to get to the second round, you know, like
00:16:07
Speaker
If you end up losing to a better team, like you end up having to go on the road to play the Eagles or the Niners, so be it. But you cannot go one and done. We're going to talk about the Browns next. I got to talk about this stat. The Cleveland Browns and Detroit Lions have both won 10 games in the same season for just the second time in NFL history. Last time it happened, 1953.
00:16:31
Speaker
Oh my god, that's pretty Super Bowl. Yeah dude, I read that yesterday and I was like holy shit man. These are unprecedented times man.
00:16:43
Speaker
Dude, the Browns are looking like a real threat with Flacco, man. He is a legit NFL quarterback. And I think, dude, he's got a little bit of no-fucks-given attitude. I don't know if that's true or not, but just the way he's carrying himself, the confidence he's playing with, he looks like he knows he's already a made man. He's playing with house money. If this whole thing implodes, he's really not going to catch any of the heat over it.
00:17:07
Speaker
Indeed, I like what I'm seeing, man. Big, strong dude, still moving around, decent enough, right? He was never the most mobile guy, but he's still buying a little bit of time there in the pocket, and his arm is as strong as ever, man. Yeah, I think they're way more lethal than they seemed a month ago.
00:17:24
Speaker
Well, yeah. Well, since we're talking about Joe Falacco, let's lead into this. Mari Cooper, 265 yards yesterday. Most in franchise history, dude, 265 yards in an NFL game as a receiver is unreal. I mean, yeah, Julio hit 300, but like dude, 265, especially for the Browns who play in a stadium right by the Lake and the wind blows off the Lake and stuff like,
00:17:49
Speaker
That's a dangerous team, man. That is not a team you want to end up playing round one. Their defense gets after you. If they can get anything out of their offense,
00:18:01
Speaker
Good luck, man. Good luck playing them. I mean, they feel a lot like the old Flacco led Ravens teams or like Eli's Giants teams, you know, rolling in the playoffs. They were always just nasty physical teams, man, with QBs who played with, you know, just ultimate confidence, man. Like they're just going to freaking sling it, dude. They throw two picks in the first half, big fucking deal. They're going to keep chucking that ball downfield.
00:18:23
Speaker
Yeah, I'm with you man. I think the Browns are a definite threat to come out of the AFC and they've got to pull some upsets It's not gonna be an easy road, but they they're totally on the list of contenders at this point Another team that I'm not kidding you. I did not think this team could do this yesterday
00:18:40
Speaker
Dolphins with an absolutely gutty win yesterday that that's not the game They typically win when it's ugly and they got to win an ugly game. That's typically the game the game. They struggle They got a tough defense, dude I'm starting to have real doubts about the Cowboys man They literally play so bad on the road and they're gonna end up having to go on the road Round one dude. I'm not gonna be the Bucks man. I
00:19:06
Speaker
Yeah, I'm right there with you, dude. They just seem soft to me, man. They seem like a soft ass team. Ton of talent, dude. They really could beat anybody in the league, but they just seem soft as hell.
00:19:20
Speaker
I thought it was Tyreke was clearly playing on one leg yesterday. I mean, there was a lot of times he couldn't even push off of his right foot and still ended up with a hundred yards. Dude, I'll give two a credit. I'll give two a credit. Jaylen Waddle is closer to Tyreke Hill than I think anybody realized, dude. Jaylen Waddle is fucking good. He is. I'll give two a credit, man. He hung in the pocket yesterday and took some big hits and he just kept getting back up and they kept playing. And dude, Raheem Mostert,
00:19:48
Speaker
Good God, that dude turned back the clock this season. Like I assumed when A-chan came back, it was just his job. No, Mostert is still the lead back by a pretty hefty margin. And he's balling, man. The dude just keeps playing well every week. He keeps scoring touchdowns. The Dolphins are an impressive team. Another team you're not going to want to play. And they end up with the one or two seed. It's going to be tough for someone to go to Miami and win, man.
00:20:16
Speaker
Most dirt may end up playing himself into the offensive player to your conversation, man. If not MVP, dude, like I feel like he's Christian McAfee without the hype. He's played really well, man. He really has. And I'll tell you what, the more I hear Mike McDaniel talk,
00:20:35
Speaker
That dude is just, he is such an impressive like football coach. Like he just loves football, man. You could just, you haven't been watching the hard knocks in season. It's definitely worth catching up on. It's really good, man. He, the dude just like, he lives football. Like it's his life. And I know like when you look at him, he doesn't seem like your normal, like typical football guy, but
00:20:57
Speaker
The dude just eats and breathes football and you could tell his team respects him too, man. They had Tyreke yesterday. I was talking about him. He's like, he just never lets us get too far down or too high up. He just, he wants us to just play loose and that's how they play, man. And your head coach is a big reason of why you play the way you do. And Mike McDaniel's Ravens down to the two yard line.
00:21:26
Speaker
I think you're like eight seconds ahead. Oh, sorry.
00:21:30
Speaker
It's all good. But yeah, the dolphins are going to be a dangerous team in the playoffs too. And me and you have been talking about this all year. This is such a weird year that I feel like anybody can win. playoffs are going to be so much fun. Yeah. It sucks. We only got two weeks left. I like writing that week 18 or week 17 this week was brutal for show notes because just not ready for it to be over. But yeah, the playoffs are going to be incredible, man. There's so many good teams right now.
00:21:59
Speaker
Yeah, I'm really excited for the tournament this year. We'll touch briefly on the Falcons, drubbing the Colts. Wow. Did not see that coming. It started Heineken all year, man. He's nothing, you know, you're not going to go out searching for
00:22:15
Speaker
Every, you know, Terry Heineken, Ricky Card, you can get your hands on, but I just feel like the floor with him is so much higher than it is with, with Ritter, dude. Also, it really helps when you use Bijon Robinson and Kyle Pitts properly, like makes a huge difference for your football team when your two best players are getting the ball regularly. I don't know, man. Maybe it's just crazy talk, but
00:22:37
Speaker
Dude, Bijon had 122 yards on like 19 touches yesterday. The dude's just dynamic. He did make the dumb ass bonehead play. Whether or not Heinecke threw it late, whatever. It should have still been a touchdown either way. That could flip that beer probably. Cost me a grand, man. I would have won $1,000 yesterday. I would hit a five leg touchdown parlay. That was all I needed. And yeah, it just, it sucks.
00:23:03
Speaker
Yeah, for those who weren't watching, it was, I think it was second quarter in Heineken through a pass to Bijon in the front corner of the end zone and Bijon let himself kind of, kind of drift out of the, out of bounds instead of, you know, kind of attacking the football and making sure he got two feet in. So yeah, it cost, cost the J man some, some ducats. No good, but I was impressed by them yesterday. I'll give them that. I wish they would have been playing like this two weeks ago, but I told Seth yesterday, Bradshaw,
00:23:31
Speaker
Terry Bradshaw on the pregame show, which who knows what Terry Bradshaw knows, but he sounded pretty confident when he said it. The front office apparently told Arthur Smith after last week, you are not starting Desmond Ritter again this season. Um, start Heineken next week. And they basically told you either went out or you're done and there's zero chance for making the playoffs. So I looked at the, um,
00:23:54
Speaker
the chances and what they need to happen. I mean, they'd need the bucks to lose out to win the division, which I don't think that's going to happen. The bucks are actually starting to play well, or they'd need the Rams or the Seahawks to lose out and somebody else to lose a game. It's just not happening. It's just a shame, man. They gave away so many games, man. They gave away five games easily this season. And
00:24:17
Speaker
Yeah, it is. It's just, I think Arthur Smith's pride just got the best of him. And he just, he told Ritter that he wanted him to be a starting quarterback and he should have never been his starting quarterback, but Oh well. It is what it is. That was exciting yesterday. At least I got a Christmas Eve win and Hawk can't say anything. And Hawk said he was done watching football after yesterday. So that was enjoyable for me. Zach Wilson to the Falcons, man, 2024, let's make it happen.
00:24:45
Speaker
Yeah, hmm. I seriously think there's a good chance that the Bears do end up taking a quarterback and trading fields. The longer the fields would be great, dude. He'd be great. Tyrod. I mean, dude, I still feel like the Falcons got a solid roster. They just need a quarterback.
00:25:00
Speaker
Yeah. Hell, Matt Ryan, bro. If Matt Ryan's still there, man, I feel like this team is running away with the division, dude. Maybe I just got Falcons red rose colored glasses on for Matt Ryan, dude. But I feel like that dude just really got a freaking raw end of the deal his last couple of seasons. He did. And he definitely wasn't right. But that's just where we are. But if the Falcons can't make the playoffs, I just prefer they lose out at this point. There's no
00:25:27
Speaker
There's no real point in winning games at this point if you're not going to make playoffs. What about Russell Wilson, dude? If Russell Wilson, it looks like him and champagne, the rumors are that they're heading for a divorce this offseason. How are you feeling as a Falcons fan if they bring Russell Wilson in for a one or two years? Horrible. Absolutely horrible.
00:25:43
Speaker
I can only imagine him recording, uh, again, rise up promos for the dome. I'd be disgusted. That might be a future at every, uh, at every game, fucking booing him and rooting against him and shit. That might be too much for me. I don't think I could handle it. I kind of hoped there was, if they don't make the playoffs, I hope they end up with a top 10 pick and they end up drafting, um, Jayden Daniels out of LSU or some quarterback. They just,
00:26:08
Speaker
They have to use a first round pick on a quarterback eventually, man. And if you're going to do it, this is the year to do it because you just said it. They are literally a quarterback away. There was never a more toxic family moment than the 2016 divisional round of the playoffs when future had his son, who's also Russell Wilson stepson in the luxury box, dancing with a Matt Ryan jersey on as the Falcons were stomping the shit out of the Seahawks.
00:26:35
Speaker
feel bad for that little kid. You know, he don't know. He's caught up in this man. It was just, it was just ugly as much as I'm not going to lie. I laughed my ass off about it, dude. And I loved it because I liked future more than I like Russell Wilson, just as people that entertain me. But, uh, I still thought that was pretty ugly. Yeah. Um, is there anything else that you really want to touch on from this? Uh, uh, party just got picked again.
00:26:59
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Well, we, what happened there, dude? He just literally threw it right to him. Dude, I'm telling you this dude behind the sticks and behind in the game is not good. I, I said this a couple of weeks ago when they played the Eagles, them not getting that touchdown right out of the gate and putting them up seven zero completely fucked up. Did he fumble or something here? What happened at the end of it?
00:27:27
Speaker
Think he did it looks like the Ravens defenders already consoling Yeah, it's gonna be a good week for the Brock Purdy Hey, I look like pretty got hit as he threw it. So still not good. It didn't look great. What was there anyways? Oh God, yeah I don't know. We're gonna need to get that on like freeze frame. They should be able to freeze frame it here. I
00:27:56
Speaker
Yeah, pretty took a pretty big shot right there the balls out man traveling so we're about midway through the third quarter right now Ravens holding a Yep, balls out Ravens holding a I don't know is it
00:28:10
Speaker
I don't know how they're going to call this dude, but Raven's holding a 23 to 12 lead on the Niners, Brock Curtis stone for interceptions MVP candidacy. If it's not dead right now, it's on life support. Uh, we'll see what they can do though. Yeah. Uh, is there anything else you want to talk about from this week? I didn't think there was anything else we really had to
00:28:27
Speaker
What did you think of the schedule, man? Did you like having it spread out between Saturday, Sunday, and the three Monday games? I kind of dug it, man, with a long weekend. I feel like it gave me something to at least have on the TV, you know, on background as we spent a lot of time kind of hanging around the house. This is the only thing I'm going to say is I feel like the Saturday games are a disservice to teams that are in a playoff race because a lot of times they're getting a short week.
00:28:53
Speaker
I don't know, man. I just, I don't love it. I'll be honest. I don't, I don't love the Saturday games cause I do feel like those teams get screwed. Oh, they called it down by contact and that's not reviewable. So I don't know. I get what you're saying. Like it was good as a viewer, like having a Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday games, but dude, these teams are in the middle of a playoff race and they got to play on a short week. I just, I didn't love that part of it to be honest.
00:29:20
Speaker
Fair enough. I mean, everybody should be on full rest right now. We should just do away with when you get down this far last three weeks, it should either be your plan on Sunday or Monday night. There should be no Thursday or Saturdays. You know me, I'm all about all 16 games on Sundays every week, man. I like having a jam packed Sunday, dude. Well, this is our last Monday night game of the season tonight, too. I don't know if you realize that, but there's no Monday night games the next two weeks.
00:29:46
Speaker
Hmm. Touchdown Ravens. We need to, we need to discuss if we're going to do Sunday night or still keep a Monday night episode. So we'll have Monday night game during the wildcard round. This is a boat racing there. Do you think the Niners answer or does this just get uglier from here? Well, now the Niners are just going to have to lean heavily on throwing the ball and the way pretty he's playing. I don't think that's a good thing tonight. He, you could tell he has zero confidence right now. Yeah. He's looking shook, dude.
00:30:15
Speaker
Well, the Ravens are officially the front runners for the Super Bowl at this point. I don't think there's any denying that, man. They are for real, man. This is a good team. Yeah. Yeah, they look great. Offense and defense, playing complimentary football. Even special teams look good, man. They had some good kick returns tonight. Like, yeah, this... Hey, you know, the other good news... It's hard not to beat. Yeah, the other good news is Lamar's starting to go nuclear and up up 21 points on your brother now because Brock Purdy's got negative three.
00:30:39
Speaker
What a collapse. So my little brother and we, we got a really great fantasy football league. It's been pretty much all the same members going on 18 years. A lot, a lot of history baked in rivalries. Jordan opened up the week as like a 22 point underdog in the semi final game against my little brother. And he's now looking like he's going to hold on to win. I did. You gotta worry about the garbage time though, dude. One freaking one Brock, perdy to Christian McCaffrey touchdown pass, man. Cause he's got the Niners kicker too. Yeah.
00:31:05
Speaker
Yeah. I'm, I'm still not out of it yet. I'm still out of the woods yet, but we're, we're in, I think you need the Niners to kind of keep it close, but just avoid McCaffrey and pretty TDs. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, okay. Yeah. What, what an amazing comeback though, dude. Yeah. Um, but yeah, this, this was a fun week of football. I just were lying down the season man, only two weeks left, but yeah, we'll have to decide. I think maybe next week we should do.
00:31:33
Speaker
That'll be New Year's Eve night though. We ain't doing it Sunday night. Yeah. We'll do a Monday night, man. I said middle of the two college football playoff games. That's cool. We can throw those on, uh, we can throw those on for like our, our live viewing. There you go. Um,
00:31:50
Speaker
All right. Let's, let's break it into picks. No, we got to do race for number one, man. Oh yeah. So Bailey F and zappy got it done, lifted the Patriots up by the bootstraps, man. Got him out of the race to number one. So I mean, dude, everybody, I saw all the Patriot, you know, Patriots fans on Twitter were like, Oh, we wanted to lose that game, you know, cause Boston there.
00:32:11
Speaker
They're so spoiled, dude. If they're not winning the championship, I think they'd rather just bought them out. But I'm like, dude, y'all understand Bailey's happy. He's playing for his job, dude. He don't want them drafting some freaking high round quarterback, man. He's trying to hang on to that starting job again next season. The bears are starting to win too many games to their second picks going to end up falling out of the top 10. Cause I can only assume they're going to beat Atlanta this week. Um, yeah, bears, they, since that horrible start, man, they played pretty good. I feel like ever flus is kind of off the hot seat at this point.
00:32:36
Speaker
I don't think that's what bears want though. Like I don't think they want them off the hot seat, dude. So the bears are obviously still with it. Got the number one pick basically locked in. Cause I don't think Carolina is going to win again. Um, Arizona at two, then you got Washington, New England with both with four and 11 records at three and four. And then giants, chargers, Tennessee, all at five and 10.
00:32:59
Speaker
two, six and nine teams, which is Chicago and the jets. And then you've got, uh, Oh, about seven, seven and eight teams, um, Atlanta lead in the pack. Cause they've got the easiest schedule in the NFL. So they're 10. I think the bears got it locked up. I think it's just a matter of what are they going to do with it? Are they, are they going to keep the same regime in place? I think it's just, you know, that they're really going to kind of end up setting the tone for the whole off season.
00:33:23
Speaker
Yeah, gonna be interesting, no doubt. But yeah, that's really it. We don't really need to do playoff picture this week, because I mean, the AFC changed a little, but we'll really start to hammer that next week and the following week. So we'll skip that tonight.
00:33:39
Speaker
Yeah. And one good thing for the Niners, the way it's played out the last couple of weeks with the Eagles and the Cowboys, this game doesn't have quite as big a stakes for them as we thought it did. You know, when we started looking forward to this one a few weeks back, they should still be fine even with this loss. I wouldn't say that because they got the Rams week 18 and the Rams are going to be playing for a playoff spot. So that's going to be a huge game. And if the Eagles win out and the Niners lose one more game after this, the Eagles get the one seed. So yeah, but Shanahan owns McVeigh. We know that. It's very true.
00:34:09
Speaker
All right, you ready to get into picks? Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:33
Speaker
Hold on a second, I gotta tally everything. I forgot to tally everything up after today. Well, while you're tallying, we'll do some bonus picks for the college football playoff, man. I am going Alabama and Washington to move on to the national championship. All right, I'll go, I'm gonna go Michigan and Washington. Okay. Last week for, this week for picks, I went 10 and five, you went eight and eight.
00:35:03
Speaker
Oh, you got one. Good for you, man. This is a rough week for you, man. A lot of the 50 50 games we had, you were on the wrong end of them this week. So. Yeah. All right. Let's get into week 17 and two weeks left to go. It's a wrap, right? I got the regular season crown. It's eight, four and four and I also, yep, it's over. Okay. Maybe we'll go.
00:35:29
Speaker
Maybe we'll pick by points in the playoffs, man, really make it interesting. Well, yeah, I mean, we're going to keep this going, obviously, through the playoffs. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, the championship is just for fun anyways. All right. First off, Thursday night, we got the Jets and Browns. I see no reason why the Browns will lose this game. This should be an ass whooping, I think. I just I don't see any way the Jets can beat the Browns. Yeah, they have a decent defense, but their offense is just so bad. I mean, they almost gave that game away yesterday because their offense is so bad.
00:35:59
Speaker
Huge game Saturday night Dan Campbell heading to his old stomping grounds to face the Cowboys in Dallas I think the Cowboys get it together and get the win man against I I Feel like I should be rooting for the Lions. I feel like the Lions gonna have a letdown I mean they damn near lost that game yesterday. I think I think Cowboys get the win
00:36:19
Speaker
Yeah, the Lions are riding the absolute highest of highs right now and the Cowboys are in a must win game this weekend. They cannot lose this game. So I'm going Cowboys as well. Alright, huge game Sunday right at noon. I don't know how this one didn't get flexed out. I guess CBS just blocked it. The Dolphins and the Ravens in Baltimore.
00:36:42
Speaker
What I'm seeing tonight, man, this is a really good Ravens team. I'm going to go Ravens. It's going to be a short week flying cross country. And despite what the score shows, this has been a physical ass game, dude, like the Ravens are going to be feeling this one, uh, you know, tomorrow and Wednesday, man. Um, but you know, the dolphins had a tough ass game on Sunday too. Yeah. And the dolphins got to play outside in Baltimore. So yeah, we don't know what the elements are going to be like. I'll go Baltimore.
00:37:08
Speaker
If it was in Miami, I think I'd go dolphin. I would as well. I'm giving the advantage to the home team in this one for sure. Two straight drop passes for Devo Samuel. All right. Patriots and Bills in Buffalo. I think the Bills keep it rolling. Yeah. Despite Bailey's Abby's best efforts, I think the Bills get the win. Bills are playing really well. I agree. The Bills are going to win. Falcons, Bears, and Chicago.
00:37:36
Speaker
I'm going to go bears. I don't feel good about picking the bears over my Falcons, but I'm going to go bears. Yeah, bears. Raiders and Colts in Indy. Man, the Colts didn't exactly impress me yesterday. Like didn't, didn't give me the warm fuzzies that that's a good team. I mean, their defense does nothing to disrupt the other team. So.
00:38:06
Speaker
Raiders are red hot, dude. They're coming off a 63 points showing against the Chargers and then, um, and then beating the, uh, the chiefs in Kansas city on Christmas. You know what? I'm going Raiders, man. I'm talking myself into it. I'm going Raiders. I just think the Colts are going to end up faltering at the end of the season. I think Colts get it together, man. I'll go Colts on this one.
00:38:31
Speaker
We got the 90s expansion game the Panthers and Jaguars in Jacksonville Jacksonville's looked horrible for the last month But I still don't think they're as bad as Carolina. I say Jacksonville gets the win We don't know on the status of Trevor Lawrence right now Yeah, I'm gonna go jags to you but I'm gonna be honest I don't feel good about it at all I Wouldn't be shocked that the Panthers been in there and beat him
00:38:58
Speaker
You got the Titans and Texans. The Texans beat them two weeks ago without CJ Stroud. You got to imagine CJ Stroud is going to be back this week. I think it's another hard fought loss for the Titans. Houston wins. Yeah, I'm going Texans as well.
00:39:12
Speaker
There's no way CJ Stroud is missing three straight games. Like, I mean, unless he's like brain dead or something, I don't really know what we're doing here. Goddamn pal. Let's hope CJ Stroud's not brain dead. The Rams and Giants in New York Rams are playing some of the best ball in the league. I think they get the win. Dude, he has them playing.
00:39:38
Speaker
Like every week is a playoff game because I mean, you kind of don't want to see them in the playoffs, dude. You know, Stafford's another one of those guys like Flacco, man. He's been there, done it all, got the ring like he's just going to go out there and sling it. Also.
00:39:51
Speaker
Let's talk about Matt Stafford for a second here. Like if you're either in a contract year or you're going for a record, that's the guy to have. He got Megatron the all-time record for receiving yards in a season. He got a cup to Triple Crown two years ago and now he's about to get Pukanakua the receiving record for a rookie in a season like
00:40:11
Speaker
Dude, whatever you want to say about Matt Stafford, he might not be like the greatest winner in the history of the NFL, but he'll get you some stats. God damn dude. And he just keeps pouring it on too, man. I just, I just thought like this was a season he was really going to slow down, but man, Nakua was just such a hit for them in the draft. I do just so good. Do you think Puga Nakua has passed CJ Stroud for bricky of the year with Stroud missing these last few weeks? I still think they always lean heavy on a quarterback to win those awards.
00:40:42
Speaker
Yeah. And, you know, McVay's offense is kind of got like the same thing as like Shanahan's office. Sometimes you feel like it's just the scheme, right? And it's, you know, I don't feel like Cooper cup got as much credit as like somebody else would have if they got the triple crown and receiving. But yeah, when the coup is doing right now is absolutely incredible. That dude is a monster on the field. Cardinals and Eagles in Philly, I think Eagles role. Do they need a like,
00:41:08
Speaker
Convincing win for their psyche. I feel like this is the game they need to get right so and The schedule makers didn't do them any favors that eight weeks stretch, but they really rewarded them for the last three games Didn't they Giants Cardinals Giants? Yeah, it had to balance out at some point I mean the Giants were a playoff team last year So if if they would have returned to form this year, they really would have screwed the Eagles this year. I
00:41:36
Speaker
The huge, huge, huge game down in Tampa. New Orleans heading to town to face the Bucks, man. This could just about wrap up the division for the Buccaneers if they get the win. It does wrap up the division if they get the win. Even if the Falcons win? Yeah, the Bucks need to lose out for the Falcons to win the division. All right, so Bucks playing for their playoff life. Baker's on a little bit of a heater last few weeks. I think they get it done, man. Unless the Saints put in James Winston.
00:42:06
Speaker
I just I don't understand what they're watching like car is so fucking bad I'd rather have taped yet either take some Hill or Jamis man instead of him car is just he's not good, man. I I'm glad that it's not my quarterback because They got to pay that dude like a hundred and fifty million dollars over the next three years and not good Yeah, I'm going butts as well
00:42:33
Speaker
All right. 49ers and commanders in DC. Keep in mind 49ers going to be flying cross country and it's a noon kickoff. Uh, despite what we're seeing tonight and all the stuff I've mentioned previously, I still think the Niners get, get back on track from what's looking like it's going to be a loss tonight. Yeah. I'm going Niners as well. There's, there's no, if they do end up losing this game, there's no way they're losing two in a row. I mean, then again, they didn't lose three in a row this season. So anything's possible, I guess.
00:43:00
Speaker
Huge, huge, huge game for wild card implications. Pittsburgh Steelers heading up to Seattle to face the Seahawks. Both teams send it eight and seven. It's at Seattle. Yeah, at Seattle. Seahawks then. Seahawks look like a different team with Mason Rudolph, dude. I told you guys last week, Rudolph is going to lead a Christmas miracle. You mean the Steelers look like a different team with Mason Rudolph? What'd I say, Seahawks? You know what I meant. The Steelers looked...
00:43:29
Speaker
Damn, dude, they are just taking chunk plays out of the Niners defense now. Yeah, Steelers kicked ass on Sunday, man. Heading up to Seattle. Seahawks kind of got the Vikings vibes from last year, dude, winning back-to-back weeks on last-second touchdown drives. I think the Seahawks get the win, though. I don't think Mason Rudolph. I think that was literally just a Christmas thing.
00:43:52
Speaker
I think that was more of the Bengals coming back to earth a little bit too. Their defense is bad, man. They've been giving up chunk plays the last couple of weeks and Browning didn't play his best ball. So I just, I feel like that was a little bit of him coming back to earth too. So yeah, I'm going to see Alex.
00:44:10
Speaker
This one should be interesting, man. Bangles fighting for their playoff lives. Traveling to face the nine and six Kansas City Chiefs in Kansas City. Fuck. This is a huge game for both these teams. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I do. This game either. Yeah, the Raiders are on their ass. Man.
00:44:31
Speaker
There's no way the Chiefs lose four straight home games, dude. I just, I dangles, angles have played the chiefs tough. I mean, these teams, despite Joe burrow, not being there, these two teams know each other well, man. I think the chiefs, I think the offense bounced back enough. I think the defense is going to keep doing what it's done. I think the offense bounces back enough for the chiefs to get the win. The other thing too, is if Jamar chase plays, because he obviously makes that team way different because
00:44:56
Speaker
When it's just T Higgins going downfield, there's not the threat of Jamar chase. Um, but yeah, I'm going to go chiefs as well. I just don't think they can lose four straight home games. I think Tad just tapped out for the season. My little brother, he just takes me well up so much for this season.
00:45:17
Speaker
The Sunday afternoon game, the last gaps for the Broncos. I think they might still have like a less than 1% chance of getting in, but it's looking very slim. You got the five and 10 chargers heading to town. I think the Broncos do get the win. And imagine if.
00:45:32
Speaker
The Raiders, Chiefs and Broncos, well, the Chiefs can't win. The Chiefs would have to lose. Imagine if the Broncos and Raiders win and the Chiefs lose. The Broncos and Raiders both have the same record. They would all be tied with nine wins going into week 18 and the Broncos and Raiders play each other and the Chiefs got the Chargers at LA.
00:45:56
Speaker
I don't know, man, I'm, I'm rooting for chaos. So yeah, I'm, I'm going for the Broncos to win just cause I want to see absolute chaos in week 18. And then Sunday night game, again, I don't know how this one didn't get flexed out unless they just blocked it. Cause it was New Year's Eve, uh, Packers and Vikings in Minnesota. God, I say Vikings, man. I don't really.
00:46:21
Speaker
I don't know. I felt like these teams are pretty much kind of right on the same level this year. So I'll go Vikings because they did. They did play decent yesterday in defeat. Where's it at? It's in Minnesota. Yeah, I'll go Vikings as well. I do not like what I've seen from the Packers the last month. Dude, they should have lost to the
00:46:40
Speaker
We didn't even talk about that. They should have lost to the Panthers yesterday. I mean, it took it down to the last second. I don't know what the hell is going on with the Packers defense, but they are just getting shredded by anybody right now. All right, let's get $2 million bet. Uh-huh, yeah. Uh-huh, yeah. It's all about the pensionments, baby.
00:47:10
Speaker
All right, Jordan, how did we do last week? We both went one in one. You had the Bucks plus one for 50K, obviously hit. You had the Bengals minus two and a half for 50K, not even close. I had the Lions minus three, that hit for 100K. And then the Colts minus two and a half for 100K, that did not hit. Did not go well.
00:47:36
Speaker
Yeah. So on the season, I am 17 and 15 and you are 19 and 13. You're plus 300 km plus 200 km. All right. I got to keep this 100 km lead going the rest of the way. You go first, man. What's your first bet? I'm going Bronco. Sorry, not Broncos. Browns minus seven and a half for 100 km. I'm going to go Seahawks for 25 km minus three and a half against the Steelers.
00:48:05
Speaker
Minus three and a half. Yep for 25k All right, my second one i'm going eagles cardinals over 47 and a half for 100k My second one i'm gonna put another 50k against my team the titans I say the texans minus three and a half 50k All right I got it
00:48:32
Speaker
All right. And let's I think we have just we didn't do the mailbag this week. So we don't want to be bugging people on Christmas Day for for questions. I think the lovely Ari, the fake wife, Jordan's lovely better half hit us with one question to close out this episode. What's it going to be, Jordan? All right. Ari hit us with which player or team has been the biggest disappointment in the NFL this year?
00:49:02
Speaker
I'm going player, man. I'm not going to say Aaron Rodgers just because he went out for a place in. I'm going to Sean Watson, dude. I think the Sean Watson was just abysmal, man. I think between the stuff on the field, off the field, he finally strung together a good half of football and then he was out for the rest of the season after that.
00:49:23
Speaker
I still think that's got a chance to end up going down as the all timer, worst trade, worst transaction, whatever you want to call it. And NFL history. And honestly, at this point, man, if I'm a Browns fan, I'm looking at next season. Like, I don't know if I want him back instead of Joe Flacco, dude, as crazy as that is to say. Yeah. I'm going to go with your mid-season MVP as a biggest disappointment. I'm going to go Trevor Lawrence, man.
00:49:47
Speaker
The dude has 23 touchdown, 23 touchdowns to 19 turnovers. And he has looked, dude, they have such a loaded offense and he can't even run the offense. Like he threw some bad ones yesterday, man. That one he threw, they were still in the game in the early part of it. And it was just, I don't know what he was looking at, man. Throw it straight to the defender for a huge turn.
00:50:07
Speaker
I don't know how the fuck you picked Trevor Lawrence at your mid season. Dude, the advanced stats, he was good the first half of the season, man. The numbers just didn't show it, dude. He was making chicken salad out of chicken shit the first half of the season. I thought the numbers would catch up to it, and they were going to go on a run. At this point, dude, I think Doug Peterson might end up catching some heat this offseason, man, because they've invested some serious money in that roster.
00:50:31
Speaker
And it is not going well, man. They're going in the wrong direction from how they ended last season, even how they started this year. I mean, they weren't, they said like seven and three at one point this year. Uh, they were, yeah, they've lost four straight. Yeah. So it's been very ugly in Jacksonville, man. Um, yeah, I, uh, like I said, I think
00:50:54
Speaker
I'll eat it, man. That was a freaking horrible pick by me putting him in MVP. But I still think my judgment was sound at the time, even though, you know, obviously none of us has a crystal ball. We can't see the future. Dude, if they end up collapsing and don't even win that division.
00:51:07
Speaker
That is going to be a really, really rough pill to swallow for them. I think they have to lose out though, to not win the division. So they've, they've got at least the tiebreaker over. I know they don't have to win out. They just have to lose one game. Either the Colts or Texans has to win out and they beat them. So, ooh boy.
00:51:26
Speaker
Yeah, it's just ugly because you feel like they were really, you know, the arrow was really pointing up last year because they they were almost like the Texans of last season. They didn't start that great, but they finished off really, really hot, got in the playoffs, had that amazing comeback against the Chargers and gave the Chiefs a pretty decent game in the second round of the playoffs last season. Made some solid offseason moves this year, so you really felt like this was going to be a nice building year for them, and they've definitely took a step backwards from where they were at the end of 2022. Yeah, pretty crazy.
00:51:56
Speaker
All right, man, here's some closing thoughts as we wrap up this this Christmas edition of the goal line. Again, me and Seth want to wish you guys all a Merry Christmas and we won't talk to you before then. So happy new year. I hope 2024 brings you guys everything that you're looking for. And yeah, we'll talk to you guys next week.
00:52:38
Speaker
Pretty plain I like watching the puddles gather in And all I can do is just toss up tea for two It's made my point of view, but it's not the same It's not the same I just want someone to say to me