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Power Two Podcast: Women's Final Four Predictions + Deion got paid!
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The Women’s March Madness is in full force as we're halfway through the Elite Eight. Jordan and DJ break discuss the final four + big news in College Football.
Recorded: 03/31/2025
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Transcript
Welcome Back to the Power 2 Podcast
00:00:02
Speaker
What's good everybody? Welcome to another episode, the first episode in what feels like way too long of the Power 2 Podcast. As always, I'm your host Jordan. I'm here with my co-host DJ.
Half Birthdays and Astrology
00:00:14
Speaker
How are you? Yes.
00:00:15
Speaker
Hello. You are freshly 30. I have not yet, so I'm great. Relax. Relax. Because you know what? I will take this joke from people who are not 95 baby, but you're 95 baby.
00:00:30
Speaker
Okay, and you still turn 31st. but Relax. You got a couple months.
00:00:38
Speaker
I will be officially six months away in two weeks.
00:00:42
Speaker
My half birthday is April 12th.
00:00:46
Speaker
Yes. And yes, I do celebrate my half birthday. You know, this is a crazy way to start the podcast, but i do have a question. Do you have Gemini in your chart?
00:00:58
Speaker
Yes, my moon is in Gemini. Okay. don't know much about astrology, but I remember us talking about you being in Gemini. and I was like, I don't remember her birthday being in june no I don't remember anyone's birthday. Your birthday is in my phone because we're cool. So I'll never forget it.
00:01:14
Speaker
Your birthday is in my phone too. It's not like ah at the top of my mind. And I was like, I don't think her birthday is in June. But I remember talking about Gemini. And I'm like, and then you said half birthday. And I'm like, that makes your birthday in October, which does make it. Now she did the quick math.
00:01:29
Speaker
four plus six pain and we so okay yes yes my sun sign is libra my moon is gemini and my rising is leo which means that i was always pretty much meant to be a dramatic person on somebody's television so that's really great um because i pretty much have the three most outgoing signs as my my sun, my moon, and my rising.
00:01:48
Speaker
So um if you are very interested, if you are super interested in astrology, it's really cool. It's very interesting ah the way that they break down like what all this stuff like means, um because basically my sun sign is how people receive me, but my moon sign is what my actual personality is.
Importance of Insulated Cups
00:02:05
Speaker
So supposedly, allegedly.
00:02:10
Speaker
Yeah. Anyways. i did Yeah. Sorry. i'm my i'm You know, I'm like, I'm like, I know it's in my phone. I know what happens. I know I'm going to text you. But it's just like, Whatever, that doesn't matter. yeah um um i'm just I'm still celebrating the power of a great cup. This time I have this cup.
00:02:26
Speaker
All right, big ACC cup. Big ACC Stanley vibes. This is bigger than my head. i have been consuming about triple the amount of water that I have ah lately because of my good old cup.
00:02:38
Speaker
Because you know how like they're starting to give out the tumbler cups now, but they're not actually really like insulated. So it's just like, ew, get away from me. I don't want this. this one don't I don't know what you're talking about. Okay, so they the people are giving away the insulated cups, right?
00:02:54
Speaker
But a lot of them are not actually insulated. they're just They just look like Stanleys, but they're not they don't actually keep. Whereas um this one is actually insulated, so the ice actually stays like solid the whole day.
00:03:08
Speaker
Okay. Got you. So here's the thing. I've never worked at a job that gave out cups. It's always been water bottles. Ah, well. So like, I've never gotten like a Stanley, or which is good because I don't need nothing that big, but like, I've never gotten like a Stanley or anything. It's always like insulated, like little water bottles and stuff.
00:03:26
Speaker
Like I have like six of them floating around. um so I was a little confused. This is my first one from the job. This is the first one because athletics got these made for something or another. I can't remember. So these didn't even come out of like my department.
00:03:41
Speaker
Love that. But yes, the power of a good cup, ladies and gentlemen, that sometimes you're not depressed. You just need a new cup. oh Talk to them. You know what else you need?
00:03:52
Speaker
You know what else you need? To send those cups to your wife. Yes.
Marriage and Societal Pressures
00:03:57
Speaker
Yes. I'm glad you remember because I wasn't going to press you about that this time. I know. I still haven't done it. yeah but But you know what else you need?
00:04:04
Speaker
Speaking of a wife, you need new headphones. A wife. I do need a wife. You are correct. I'm not going to you you need a wife because don't believe in telling people that they should be married. We're have that conversation. But I think, I just think, I just, I just. My future wife is in the WNBA.
00:04:27
Speaker
I love that for you. I love that for us. I just think that people, were I just think people are too focused on marriage. And so people be trying to talk to me about marriage and I'm like, hold on, we relax. but somebody something else am I married.
00:04:38
Speaker
Like, please. You don't actually want, I actually don't want my advice. My advice is probably gonna hurt your feelings because you in this little lovey dovey, I need to get married phase. And it's like, marriage is cool if you're doing it for the right reasons. But if I tell you, you're not doing it for the right reasons, I'm gonna hurt
Upgrading Headphones
00:04:54
Speaker
your feelings.
00:04:54
Speaker
Please don't talk to me. Anyways, ask me about marriage if you want a real opinion. But like, I'm not going to give you no like freaking Disney Channel love story princesses dancing in the wind. Like, that's why everybody getting divorced. And I am not negative divorce.
00:05:13
Speaker
But I am saying some of y'all get married for the wrong reason. And it's not your fault. It's society's fault because they tell you you have to get married and then you just marry anyone and you don't actually like them.
00:05:25
Speaker
That's my Ted talk.
Deion Sanders' Contract Celebration
00:05:26
Speaker
Anyways, DJ, you know what you need? Speaking of a wife and marriage, you need new headphones. As anyone who has watched this can see, there is no longer foam Out of my headphones, because I am no longer using Beats that I got in the year of our Lord, 2020, 13, and or 14, because I don't remember exactly which year.
00:05:46
Speaker
It was either, sorry, it was not 13, 14 or 15. It was either my freshman or sophomore year of college. And they got me through like nine, 10 years. They got me through like nine, 10 years. But finally, i got a new pair, 30 for 30. Got new pair for my birthday, shout out.
00:06:02
Speaker
And now I- now I look like a professional because that was crazy. If anyone has ever watched this on YouTube, but it's fine. You just got to do what you got to do.
00:06:13
Speaker
You got keep it rolling. And now I have real equipment and it's actually kind of blowing me because I can hear myself in my ear. And I'm like, maybe my headphones didn't work at all because I don't like hearing myself like this. We started talking. I'm like, Ooh, these are new headphones. Cause ew. Like why? What is going on? why wow And meanwhile, I'm the opposite. Like I need to hear myself. Like what?
00:06:32
Speaker
Hello, is this thing on? I need some new headphones. what i'm I'm dealing with... I really, at this point, am just joking around. i could I could have been... Got me some new headphones. um But yes, those look fantastic with your Ohio State hat. You know, the reigning national champions. Say it again, please. one more time. Love that for y'all. The reigning national champions. i'm proud of your athletics.
Coach Salaries and NCAA Restrictions
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Speaker
I'm not proud of anything else that that school's got going on. like We cannot talk about that today because it's blowing me and we will we will not have an episode. It's just...
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Speaker
Wow. So, Deion
00:07:07
Speaker
ah Deion Sanders signed a five-year, $54 million dollars contract. have two thoughts on this. whom My first and lesser thought is why.
00:07:20
Speaker
My second and more important thought, I love to see a Black man get paid. um i love your black negative I love that for you, Dion. I love that. you you You do a little whispers out there. You say, I mean, will go to the NFL if my if I was coaching my son and they said five years, 54.
00:07:36
Speaker
that ah love I love that. I'll be one of the highest paid college coaches. Absolutely. Oh, God. primate Prime is walking to the bank.
00:07:47
Speaker
Sprinting. Literally. He is, he is as as one of the greatest corners of all time, he backpedaling to the bank. I'm flipping flipping his head flipping his hips to the bank, if you will. Go.
00:08:00
Speaker
i know you're at your house but go home because that's awful he is now going to get 10.8 million per year on average making him the highest paid head coach in the big 12 conference and the fourth highest paid college football coach i don't think that's accurate and i'm not saying you're wrong i just think people be lying about the information Okay, well, I'm just telling you what the internet says.
00:08:26
Speaker
Who do you, sorry, in the article that you're talking about, who do they have listed over him? Does it say? ah No, it just says fourth. Okay, I can tell you for a fact that that's wrong because, well, actually, let me not say that.
00:08:38
Speaker
ah Well, let's just look at it. know Ryan Kirby Smart, Lincoln and Riley make more. um I feel like, who's the other coach? So that's three, and that would make him the fourth. But I'm pretty sure Dabble is also an eleventh.
00:08:54
Speaker
Okay, hold hold on. And I think Steve Sarkeesian at Texas just got 11. See, and here's and here's the thing. You are correct and incorrect all at the same time. So Kirby Smart, 13.2. Ryan Day, Dabo, Interesting. Okay.
00:09:10
Speaker
sarcasian ten points six so beyond his thing okay then i said see you are correct and incorrect all at the same time so like you said you said dab oh okay it's the top of your kirby ryan day and dabbo then dion then steve sarkisian is under him is lincoln on that list no it's still wrong lincoln makes more than that but he works at a private school but i mean what's the difference between four and five like wait lincoln makes 11 but the because he works at a private school they don't have to like put his actual numbers out there but link the the rumor is that lincoln makes over 11.
00:09:46
Speaker
It says 10 year, 110 mil. That makes it around 10 mil per year. For who? For Lincoln Riley.
00:10:00
Speaker
Hold on. They're putting him at around. I know it says 110 million for 10 years. That's directly 11. I know. That's i like why are they saying it's per year this 10 times 10 is a hundred, not a hundred. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I'm confused as to how they got, came up with that math as well.
00:10:22
Speaker
Whatever. The point is they're getting paid a stupid amount of money to yell at young children running around with a football. Okay. And as I said, i have no idea why, but I love to see a black man get paid. I love that for Dion. I love that for Colorado because everyone said that he was going to come and he wasn't going to stay and all of these things.
00:10:41
Speaker
And despite my criticisms of Dion, which I do have and will always have, he is still the best thing that happened to Colorado. And Oh, so Lincoln Riley is still under Dion because he's $10,043,418 per Dion a little bit over $10 million. Interesting. Yeah.
00:10:55
Speaker
per year and dion is a little bit over ten million interesting yeah um I'm going to trust you because that's what you're reading. That's not what I've heard on the podcast and things that i listen to. I've heard that he's over 11.
00:11:08
Speaker
But that's too close to pocket watching for me. I don't care. That's not my business. Because I don't make that much. And I'm never going make that much. So it doesn't matter. yeah but but I mean, I'm not. gla i don't want to get paid $10 million a year, honestly. theres let me not put that out on the internet. I do want to get paid $10 million dollars a year.
00:11:28
Speaker
but If someone wants to pay me $10 million dollars a year, I will accept it. But ah any none of my interests just pay that much. like In like yeah my career trajectory, the things that i the things that I care about don't come with $10 million a year.
00:11:41
Speaker
um See, mine could.
00:11:45
Speaker
Yes. And I love that for us. Oh, my goodness. Well, um yes. So Coach Prime has obviously my thoughts about him getting paid it is really nothing about him getting paid because, yes, amen.
00:11:57
Speaker
The thing about Deion Sanders is I knew that man was going get paid,
Sports Seasons and Opening Days
00:12:01
Speaker
right? Like that wasn't a question to me. didn't know was going this year, but I was kind like, yeah, he's going to get his check anyways.
00:12:08
Speaker
um What I love is that he is showing a commitment to Colorado past season. his children which i think has been my question this entire time is what does it look like with deon sanders going into his first year post his kids um and is he as committed to colorado as it seems like he actually as it seems like he is or is he going to take that cowboy's job child by but you know what saying is he going to shop around is he going to do all these other things So to say, no, I'm here at Stampin' five years, that means that you are here and you're wanting to build this program into something and be the person that spearheads that. So yeah I love that it showed his commitment to Colorado.
00:12:44
Speaker
i And i'm here I'm here for it. As you know, I drink the primetime Kool-Aid. I'm here for it. I love it. I'm very excited. I don't drink the Kool-Aid, but I love to see a black man get paid. And I i mean, I love Prime. I'm a 30-year-old black kid. Like, what are you talking about? Like, no, I did not technically grow up on him. He's a little older, but like... But like, everybody knows Deion Sanders. Yeah, it's just like... You're a football kid.
00:13:08
Speaker
Dude, yeah. Like, I love Prime. I, you know... some things but it's not about him personally so i love him he's great um and i love to see him get paid not that he needed the money but he gonna keep that money and he gonna keep that money and you know love that um speaking of colorado speaking of deon sanders speaking of being a change agent uh everyone has wondered maybe not everyone but a lot of people have wondered why colleges can't play each other in the spring deon also wondered that and he got syracuse to sign up to do a joint practice sort of joint spring game kind of thing and then because the ncaa is lame they denied it so i'm sorry we may get it eventually but we are not getting it now
00:13:57
Speaker
Interesting. So they said no. Um... very, very interesting. The explanation was there were two main areas of concern. The timing of the request, noting that most institutions have already planned their spring practice periods and some are at the end of or have completed their spring practice period and the competitive and recruiting advantage gained by the
Michigan Coach's Scandal
00:14:20
Speaker
applicant institutions if a waiver was approved to allow these institutions to engage in activities no other institutions are permitted to to do and the potential academic impact associated with student athletes missing class time to participate in these spring activities.
00:14:34
Speaker
Okay. Very interesting. Very, very interesting. I'm kind of here. i kind of do understand like the timing of the request. um If that was something you wanted to do, yes, you probably should have ah requested it sooner.
00:14:46
Speaker
um Just logistically. But the competitive and recruiting advantage is interesting. Yeah. So here's my thing. whatever but the way they answered that question makes it seem like they should change that rule for 2026 and beyond because the answer wasn't no the answer was you asked us too soon too late yeah if it's not just a straight no then I think you should change that rule.
00:15:15
Speaker
And I don't know that they will, right? I wonder if someone who actually has a voice that affects change, I was going to say matter, but our voice matters in this space, has a voice that affects change is going to hear that and be like, okay, so if it's too soon, how about we do it for 2026?
00:15:33
Speaker
um Because the answer doesn't sound like no. It sounds like not right now.
00:15:41
Speaker
It definitely hasn't. It definitely wasn't ah no. It was a it's too late for sure. But I think um I think it's it's cool because it's a very pro style way of thinking. Right. You can't really tell how ready your guys are if they're playing against each other.
00:15:57
Speaker
They should kind of get some soft idea of what it looks like playing against other teams because it wasn't a proposal that it would contact and no contact to keep it on the safer side. So, yeah, I'm here for it. I think that they just have to work out the kinks within the NCAA to allow something like that to happen because, again, there's a lot of logistics associated with it. doing spring practices together in games and things like that and in syracuse yeah it was only be like one or two practices like essentially i think they call it practice because technically the spring game counts as a practice yeah but it probably would have been what the nfl does which would have been three practices like the nfl yeah typically they do one they do two practices and then they do the the game like the uh what is it called the preseason game I think it probably would have been two practices and then the spring game and you get 15. So it's three, two or three practices out of your 15.
00:16:50
Speaker
um But I do understand like too soon, but the response very much sounds like not yet. We're not against it. No, right. Yeah. Yeah. They are definitely not against it. Cause the thing about the NCAA is if they hate something, they don't mince words about it. They'll be like, right no we're not doing it and we're never doing it. And don't ever ask us and don't ask our ah descendants and don't ask our descendants descendants and don't ever come.
Federal Charges Explained
00:17:13
Speaker
ever again. If the NCAA hates something, we would know. so i'm here for it. Yes. um To move along, baseball happened, for those of you who follow baseball. what is that What do you mean baseball?
00:17:29
Speaker
I'm confused. Does baseball go all year? i'm I'm being silly. I know it doesn't, but I'm just like, opening day is so early, it feels like. Baseball and basketball last so long.
00:17:41
Speaker
it's forever i was talking to my best friend about that she was like isn't the men's basketball almost done i said girl we ain't gonna be dead no okay hold on basketball is worse though because baseball ends in october so november december january february march that's five months in between right five months right yeah so yeah basketball ends in july June.
00:18:03
Speaker
ah June. So July, August, September. Doesn't it start in October? It starts in, yeah, preseason, yeah, around October. They get four months off. yeah That's what's in four. Baseball gets five.
00:18:15
Speaker
Barely. ah Yes. Barely. Because I feel like they're always playing baseball. Like, Jesus
Critique of NCAA Women's Basketball
00:18:22
Speaker
Christ. I'm like, okay, because the World all Series happens when? That happens in like October.
00:18:29
Speaker
Why do I always feel like the world is... Oh, yeah, because it's around my birthday. It's always around my birthday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think what you're thinking about is because college is unoriginal, so they call it the College World Series, and that happens in April.
00:18:42
Speaker
Oh, probably. I don't know. Like, that's going on, like, now. Like, they're in the baseball and softball. That's happening now. And so you're probably thinking that. But, like, the real World Series, quote, unquote, is like that. It does happen around my birthday. I do remember that because I went on to Houston one time. I was Houston when the Houston Astros went to the World Series.
00:19:01
Speaker
and they were cheating yes but i that's not my business i'm not a baseball fan um but yes i was in houston when they were in the world series and like i was out at like a nightlife type play like it was club and they were playing a game and people were literally standing there watching baseball in the middle of the club i was like i love this for y'all i just am so bored by baseball like i just snooze fest i'm sorry i'm if you love baseball that's fine but number one When you come to New York, we're going to go to a baseball game.
00:19:31
Speaker
I would love to go to one. I've been to a Rangers game. didn't know a clue about what was going on my friend watching baseball Watching baseball on TV is insane. only I literally only do it for like the World Series and also only if the Yankees are in it. I watched the Yankees this year in the playoffs after they made it to the the championship game and then the AL championship and then I watched the super World Series. The Super Bowl?
00:19:56
Speaker
But like... In June and May. and i so other i'm I'm sorry. I can't do that. I will go. you know I went to four Yankees games last year.
00:20:10
Speaker
And it was great. I went to a Rangers game and I've been to several Frisco Rough Riders games, which is our um minor league team. That is a very big feeder for the Texas Rangers.
00:20:21
Speaker
And and I've been to those games and they're they're a hoot and a half. If you don't, if y'all are unaware, the Frisco Rough Riders Stadium is the first ever baseball stadium to feature a lazy river.
Investment in Women's Sports
00:20:34
Speaker
made like sports news about a decade ago now. um But the Frisco Rough Riders Stadium, like they're just known to do other types of stuff there to make it a more entertaining facility. And so they threw a lazy river in there.
00:20:46
Speaker
And my best friend does not like sports. And she was like, i want to go to the baseball field with a lazy river. I was like... You want to go watch baseball. Because the ticket is basically the same price as like a regular ticket. like Or you could buy like a package and comes with drinks and stuff. It's really cool.
00:21:00
Speaker
um But like that's how I would want to enjoy a baseball game is floating around a lazy river. Because ah if you force me to just stand in there and watch it, don't what's going I don't know what's going on. they um I won't say everywhere, but certain stadiums, especially the Yankees, because they have good food, um baseball games are fun in person.
00:21:22
Speaker
Yes. I think, and in my opinion, though, I think almost anything can be fun in person if you're with the white right people. Okay, fair. love a philosophy.
00:21:32
Speaker
But, like, baseball games are fun in person. On TV, insane. Absolutely not. Thank you so much. But... The Yankees, I am a Yankees fan. The Yankees hit 15 home runs in three games. So shout out to the Yankees.
00:21:45
Speaker
All this means is they're setting me up for disappointment. That's it. They're peaking to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's there's no way. I mean, knock on wood.
00:21:56
Speaker
there's Oh my God, these headphones are good. I heard that crazy. Yeah, that was really loud. There's no way I get Ohio State and Yankees worst years at the same time, in the same year. But knock on wood. Oh, are the Ohio State people in the World Series right now?
00:22:10
Speaker
no, no. Ohio State won a national championship. I'm just saying there's no way. Oh, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, Ohio State baseball is not good. um
00:22:20
Speaker
Okay. SMU doesn't have a baseball team, so. Interesting. We'll talk about that later. It's a Title IX thing. Okay. Yeah. right. And a space thing, to be honest. Baseball is not typically the one they get rid of for Title IX, but I understand.
00:22:33
Speaker
i mean, I support it. We had baseball like a million years ago prior to Title IX, and then once it came, like that was... yeah They typically take away like men's soccer, like stuff like that. They don't typically take away baseball because it's yeah America's pastime. But we also there was also like the logistics behind it was really like the issue as well. like We don't have space.
00:22:53
Speaker
We don't have space. Like, where we're situated in Dallas, there was just no way for us to have a baseball team because they wouldn't have anywhere to practice because where the Rangers play is, like, 45 minutes from SMU.
00:23:03
Speaker
So there's not, like, a there's not a facility nearby that they could have been using or anything like that. Understood. um I hate to bring this up.
00:23:14
Speaker
Oh, Lordy. Largely for the sake of time. Because, and also, this is going to piss you off. Oh.
00:23:24
Speaker
former Michigan coach, Matt Wise, who got fired not too long before the cheating scandal, we finally figured out what happened.
00:23:39
Speaker
And what happened is that he was hacking into thousands of female college athletes' iClouds and downloading their pictures.
00:23:52
Speaker
and tracking them and keeping notes on them commenting on their body and their sexuality and things like that and when i say thousand i mean
Marketing Women's Sports
00:24:06
Speaker
thousand i read the article again he's in michigan again division one and there was a like d3 school in arizona that no one knows how he even did it that he had pictures of the female athletes.
00:24:23
Speaker
And, and they said that on top of all of the creepiness of this, they said it was one of the weirdest cases they've ever seen because typically when that happens, it's because of revenge porn and, or it's to like sell, right?
00:24:40
Speaker
yeah He was just keeping them for himself and writing notes on their body and their sexuality for his own whatever sort of fucked up personal pleasure. And he has a federal case and I will let you speak in a second.
00:24:56
Speaker
I would just like to let people know. If you don't know, the federal government does not do things if they don't have to. If anyone is ever brought up on a Fed case, they're going to jail.
00:25:08
Speaker
Like there's a totally separate thing about and in California about this guy who's going on a federal Rico. The mafia was federal Rico. And I saw someone say like, oh, well, we saw Rico in Atlanta with young thugging them, so maybe they get off.
00:25:22
Speaker
um I would just like to let you know, state Rico, federal Rico, not the same. Federal Rico does not happen if they don't have you. I don't know what the hell they were doing in Atlanta. The people in California under the federal Rico, they're done for.
00:25:37
Speaker
And so he has ah FBI federal charges. He's going to hell and jail. But... a lot of people were like, cause it took years. Like he got fired like years ago and we were like, like before the scandal and everything. And like, it was just like, all they said was like computer crimes and we're like, what is going on?
00:25:54
Speaker
He was ah hacking into female college athletes, iClouds and phones across the nation and downloading their intimate pictures and taking notes of them and and commenting on their body and sexuality.
00:26:11
Speaker
And this is what people use hacking skills for instead of canceling student loans. Like, that's crazy. ae
00:26:19
Speaker
I don't even have, like...
00:26:26
Speaker
Where I... i I don't even know if I have like enough like brain cells to like rub together to like conceptualize what it is that you just said to me, store it in my mind and then like have the synopsis required in order to respond because like.
00:26:45
Speaker
It's insane. There is just, i don't ever want to hear people talk about that. there is, it's not hard for women or because we have certain equalities and independencies and things like that, that we are not still currently dealing with a very, very high level of oppression. Cause that's a form of oppression.
00:27:06
Speaker
That is a form of looking, you took these young women, you commodified them, you objectified them. And then, and it was for your own sick, weird, play like, how do you get, where do you get off from,
00:27:22
Speaker
being like, I'm going to violate someone's privacy, first of all. I'm going to violate someone's privacy. And then I think that I'm the big kahuna and i and everything that I say is correct. And so I'm going to sit here and make my own comments about how XYZQRS girl looks.
00:27:41
Speaker
And those poor girls, thousands, those poor girls, And some of them some of them still don't know. Like, the article came out, and at the time of the article, Michigan had not notified their female athletes whose data was breached.
00:28:03
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Because if he did it in Arizona, you know he did it at home. Of course, he probably started there. And that's the thing. those in Michigan head had had not like told the wimp the athletes at on their campus whose information was breached that's just so really that is really really gross and disgusting he is going to hell and jail um and you know it just goes to show like how really gross people can be like if that's just like what you ain't got nothing else to do you're a football coach i know you busy where the hell did you find the time to even do that
00:28:44
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At a school like Michigan, no less, like you're not coaching freaking, you know, ah Christian Episcopal School of Nowhere Church of God in Christ and, you know, buttfuck Louisiana. You are literally coaching one of the most recognizable programs in college football. What look do you even have time to sit and violate young? Well, when you're a horrible person, you find the time.
00:29:04
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That's essentially the answer. Let's go do an ad break. I'm pissed.
00:29:10
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ah Sorry to leave you like this for the ads, but we'll be back on the ads and we'll talk about something else because that that's insane and that's disgusting. We will be right back.
00:29:25
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Welcome back to Power 2 Podcast.
00:29:33
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Let's move on. oh ah We don't even have a pitty joke. like No, not people no, no. We're going to the Power 2 podcast Dateline Edition. like like we we know we try that we try We try to spin the power and we try to, if nothing else, we're doing the power of friendship and we just can't. We discuss the power of a federal case, period. hey Hey, listen, them listen.
00:29:58
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I watch a lot of documentaries. I watch a lot of true crime. I will tell you one thing. If the case is federal, you're going to jail.
00:30:09
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And I will just say this, because not everyone knows this, and I'm not going to pretend to know everything, but I will say this. You have to petition either two things have to happen either the feds have to bring the case on you and the feds are slow intentionally they'll follow you for years before they do that literally here i mean like we found out about this like like like they said he's been doing this since like 2019 he got in like 2022 2023 and we just figured out what happened
00:30:38
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and we just figured out what happened So even if you start at the time he got fired, the case was a year or so before that. It's been three or four years. You think about the mafia, the feds literally let people kill people.
00:30:51
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Like they literally like we are hearing through the microphone that you are going to kill someone. we're going to let you kill them so then we can arrest you for rico because if we don't let you kill them we don't have a case you have a case ah fed charge so either the feds bring on the charges or the second thing you have to petition for fed charges and you will not get fed charges if they don't think they'll win yeah Exactly. For example, why the young thug thing was a state Rico.
00:31:27
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It wasn't a federal Rico. The thing in California is a federal Rico. Right? Like hate crime is a federal charge. You have to petition for hate crime.
00:31:42
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If they do not think that any, I'm sorry, it doesn't happen a lot because America's racist and I will just leave it there. Anytime someone has, for my understanding, many, if not every time someone has come up on a hate charge, they get convicted for it because if they can't get convicted for it, they won't let you have add hate crime to the case.
00:32:02
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So going to hell in jail. That's all I will say. and In a gasoline-soaked hand basket. Anyways. Is the
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00:32:12
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super regional bad for basketball?
00:32:15
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While I explain the super regional, because we did not confirm this before the show, can you please confirm that this is only women's and not men's? Like, can you Google that for me really quick? oh I'm pretty sure it's only women's, but just to make sure.
00:32:28
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So for those of you who don't know, The Super Regional is essentially the way the tournament has worked, the women's tournament, is because that's I think it's only for the women's. The way it has worked up until 2023, and the way I believe we are going to confirm, I believe the men's tournament still works, is when you get to the regionals, which is the Sweet 16 and the Elite 8, it is four sites.
00:32:48
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If you do quick math. It is four sites of four. Yes. You play the game, and then you play the second game of the winner. They do it based on a bracket.
00:32:59
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And then you come together for the final four, everyone at one site. For reasons that I do not agree with and that are b s They decided in 2019 for 2023 and beyond that the women's tournament was going to have a super regional, which is two sites instead of four. If we want to do quick math, that means eight teams per site instead of four.
00:33:24
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And coaches are pissed. Gino's pissed. Kim Malky's pissed. I read the article. Those are the two most recent, but other coaches have spoken out about it. And i will, if you're like, why does this matter? and Why does it matter? I will tell you one of the reasons why it matters.
00:33:39
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There are one or two courts, typically one. You have eight teams. No, the men are not a super regional. it's just Okay, I didn't think so. So you have one court and all of these things, right? And so literally for the super regional this year, the players had to be up at like 5.30, 6 a.m. to practice.
00:33:56
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And they were doing media availability at 7 a.m. Because you were trying to get eight teams on one court to practice and then clean off the court, bring in the stands, do all the stuff, the decorating, whatever for the games.
00:34:09
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And then you have two games
Comparing Sports Marketing
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each day. So coaches are mad and it messed up. It messed up the TV schedule. It messes up the practice. It messes up media availability.
00:34:22
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It messes up travel. And for some, most importantly, it messes up fans. Because if you think about it, the when it's the four spots, because they do it in quadrants of the United States, essentially, it may not be close to everyone.
00:34:37
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But when it's four, you have someone in the Northeast, right? you have someone in the midwest you have someone in on the west coast and then depending maybe the fourth one is in the midwest maybe it's in the southeast but it covers a large area of the united states and so fans can typically come closer but this year for example it was in spokane washington and birmingham alabama for those who don't understand How is anyone from the Midwest to the East Coast to the upper North? I mean, UConn, for example, how is anyone from up there getting to Birmingham, Alabama or Spokane, Washington?
00:35:20
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and And there's a there's just a significant there's there's an issue with this on both sides with the Super Regional. Right now, let's let's give context as to why we're even talking about this. We're talking about this because, you know, Ariyama, the coach of UConn spoke out in his displeasure against the Super Regional.
00:35:35
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They also asked Dawn Staley about it. She did not feel as strongly as he did. And then they also asked Kim Mulkey about it. And Kim Mulkey also felt like the super regional was an issue because the other thing with the super regional plainly put is that they're putting, like you had just said, Spokane, Washington and and Birmingham, they're putting it in UNC Greensboro and albert in Albany, New York. Like they're, they're sending these women to random places that not trying to be funny um and expecting fans to travel out there.
00:36:04
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um And expecting all of these players and in teams and all these things that have equitable accommodations like that's just not possible. Like if you just think about taking eight teams, eight basketball teams, eight practice squads, eight coaching staffs, okay, eight bands, eight cheerleading squads, eight, all of that, let's take all of the things that that that you would travel with, and you're going to somewhere like an Albany.
00:36:28
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No tea, no shade, but there's not going be enough hotels. There's not going to be enough ah quality you know accommodations. I think um a couple of years ago, the Arkansas state team when they played UConn, they had to stay in a hotel that was 45 minutes away from where they were playing.
00:36:45
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So it's just like the logistics of it all is also an issue with the super regional. They don't get to have, you know, to go on the court and have shoot around at a decent hour. They got to do shoot around at five and six o'clock in the morning because there's seven other teams that also need to do it. So there it's a logistical issue, 100% for those involved, but it's being like,
00:37:07
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um what's the word i'm looking at looking for is being like almost like cloaked in this idea that this is supposed to raise like this is supposed to be good for business um but it's not but it's not it's it's not And supposedly they they were all, they the NCAA were saying like, oh, it's it's kind of like a mini Final Four is what it is that they're trying to um create.
00:37:39
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But, you know, it's it's, the unfortunate part about this is that this is locked in until 2028. So according to Gino and according to Kim, Kim specifically said, I don't believe if it's the best thing that it's not possible.
00:37:58
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I agree with her as well. Go back to the table and fix it. Yeah, she said, why can't we just add two sites for next year? Like, I feel like whatever it is can be worked out and she's not incorrect. um But yeah, it's a very, very big um complication as far as time of things and also just like travel for the teams. It's just, it's very, very, it's very difficult, honestly. yeah To make this sort of decision and say it's better for business, but it's actually worse for the actual product makes no sense.
00:38:25
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And my thing is i like not to do the whole like football thing. Right. But like football brings in more money. It has more team, not more teams, but it's more money in a larger roster, all of these things, whatever. And when football wanted to make a change, they didn't care about that contract.
00:38:40
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Nope. When they wanted a 12 team playoff, what'd they do? They made a 12 team playoff. So you can't tell me it's not possible. Cause if you can do it with football, you can do a women's basketball. You can do it with any sport.
00:38:52
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Like they said, we want something different. They did it. So like, I think Kim is correct. She didn't bring up football, but I am like, if you can do it with football, you can do it with this. You can, you can change it. Yes.
00:39:04
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And I think, especially if, in my opinion, the coaches that move the needle the most when it comes to the sport are saying openly that they have an issue with this structure, then it would behoove you to listen because they both have been coaching for an extremely long time. They've experienced the, they've experienced this tournament specifically in many different iterations.
00:39:27
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And, and I think that what they're saying is completely valid. So You know, and it might be cool to have all eight teams there and it feels like a a you tournament because everybody's there and whatever, blah, blah. But like, again, also, we should be doing that in cities like a Chicago, like a Los Angeles, like a you know what I mean? And go somewhere where it's easier for actual fans to get out to.
00:39:49
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But it's also easy for each team to come. have good accommodations and kind of have a schedule that makes sense. Cause that's the other thing too. In my opinion, if you're going to do this super regional, then you need to have multiple courts available.
00:40:00
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You need to have a very more, you need to have a more robust structure for this and and maybe not bounce city to city to city, but keep it in two certain cities where you can have customized facilities to accommodate something like that.
00:40:14
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Because that's the other issue too, is you're hosting these super regionals at like Duke and like they only got one basketball court. Yep. So there's also that, like, you got to think about facilities and all these other things. And to be frank with you, and I'm just going to keep it funky because that's what I always do here.
00:40:29
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I just feel like a lot of decisions get made based on this ridiculous notion that nobody cares, right? That nobody cares because you they couldn't even call Women's March Madness March Madness until last year. They didn't even get the same co-branding, even though they're doing the same thing.
00:40:46
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They're doing the same thing. So to be frank, It's giving. We're just going to shove the women's tournament over here because who cares? And they were not prepared for what we now are experiencing, which is the absolute height of women's sports, the absolute height of women's basketball and people paying attention and saying, hey, wait, this doesn't make any sense.
00:41:08
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Yep. So I'm just going to keep it real because the biggest thing, Tara Vanderveer talked about this, the biggest difference between now and then is that that women's basketball is actually being promoted properly for the first time ever.
00:41:20
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And now look at us. Look at where we look at where have we have come. So, yes, Bocan, Washington sound sounded cute five years ago when y'all were only pulling in 5,000 fans. That's not cute now. Okay.
00:41:36
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Thank you so much. Yeah. I mean, it is truly just that it wasn't being, like you said, it wasn't being marketed. It wasn't being talked about. It wasn't being properly. the It's just like, even if we just do simple math, right?
00:41:53
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If you take away simple math, there there are more women in the country than there are men. Hello. So you're telling me that you couldn't get x percentage of them to care about women's sports if you actually like put it in front of them
00:42:12
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Because now we see soccer put in front of them and who cares about soccer? It's exploded. We see women's basketball put in front of them. It's exploded. You see all of these things happening. You get these TV deals and all that, like literally they're already, if we want to count the explosion in the last two or three years, they're already talking about women's basketball reaching a billion dollars in the next like five to 10 years. It's already, yes So it's like, it's just, it's not that it's impossible. They just weren't doing it. And they're making these short-term decisions and they're trying to make it easy on them instead of actually do it. Because because the thing is like football didn't just explode. Like it didn't just become popular. Baseball didn't just become popular. popular like basketball didn't just become popular they did things like it like nobody just woke up like oh i love football like what are you talking about like that's why a lot of the the and nba is the nba but the league before the nba literally failed like you know like it wasn't all of this stuff wasn't an instant success the nfl right bind to succeed like exactly that's where we got the afc and the nfc from right like because it was two leagues it was two weeks yeah
00:43:20
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These things didn't just happen, but they did all the work for the men's sports. And then they said, women don't care about sports and men don't care about women and just left it alone. And now and they left it alone. And even the NFL is still trying to figure out how to appeal little to female fans because they still can't believe that women like the NFL.
00:43:36
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They can't believe it. And they just started having like feminized merch for NFL teams like two years ago, because it's still occurring to them that a real customer consumer base of the NFL is is women between the ages 18 and 35.
00:43:52
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Like, yes, women like sports as well. Women play sports. Women are interesting to watch as athletes just as much as men. Like, period. I don't understand what's so damn hard about that. Like, it's one of those things where it's like, it's it's almost like as a black person, I'm tired of explaining to you that I'm just like, like, I'm a person just like you.
00:44:12
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Like, there's nothing that my black skin is making different about me except the fact that I just look different. Like, that is all. I'm tired of explaining that. I am tired of it being like, wow. These black people are making a such great accomplishments. Yes, because we're regular people.
00:44:27
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Yeah. You know what mean? Like, it's kind of like that. Like, i don't understand why that's even needed to be damn explained. Like, because the other thing about it too, is when the WNBA first came out, the WNBA was having sold out games. It was very, very popular because it was off the backs of the first gold world gold medal winning ah women's basketball team for team USA.
00:44:47
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So it was very, very popular. There was never, there was a point where the WNBA was it. And then when it became cool to hate women, Then that's when you saw the the downfall in it. And also because the WNBA has poor leadership, but I can't get into that right now. So the point I'm getting at is when it comes to women's sports, it's like we want to abandon all the logic. We don't want to put the resources. We don't want to put the time. We don't want to put the effort. We don't want to use the brain cells because surely no one's paying attention. And honestly, I'm kind of glad that it's biting them in the butt now.
00:45:18
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This is what you get for being funny. Mm-hmm. talking about something. I don't think it's a one year or two year thing. I think you need it to see if it's a little bit of longevity, buth blah, blah, blah, blah. There is longevity.
00:45:28
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Also that's a bullshit argument. Cause why didn't you do it for the men's?
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00:45:34
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Why didn't you do it for the men's? Because also y'all love- I feel like a good business strategy. Why didn't you do it for the men's? Thank you. Because y'all love to do stuff where y'all want to make these little apples to apples comparisons between men and women. Okay, so then why don't you structure the tournament? It's the same. We finally get to call them both March Madness.
00:45:48
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So why are we not structuring the to tournament just like the men's tournament? Because that's where the quote unquote March Madness brand comes from is the men's side. So if we are trying to continue this brand and continue this recognition of what March Madness is, then it should be structured the exact same way as the men's.
00:46:04
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Talk about it. So let's play ah really quick game. Really quick game. Can you name me five men's basketball players in college? Cause I did it in my head and I can't, you may be able to. like That's one Julian Reese.
00:46:20
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I'm laughing because that he was also on my list. I was going to say angel brother Cooper flag, Cooper flag, Julian Reese. Um, what's really, really sad y'all is i actually don't, I couldn't even name people like on the SMU team. Like I'm actually, I'm trying to think of like one of the SMU guys and I can't think of any of their names. Um, um,
00:46:43
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I have a third. Let's do it together. So you have two. I think his name is Derek Queen. It may not, his last name not be Queen, but it's Derek something. it's for dude It's the dude who hit the the buzzer beater for Marilyn.
00:46:55
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And I only know it because he hit a buzzer beater for Marilyn. Yep. Nope. Not a clue. Um, I don't, here's the thing. I don't, and we talked, talked, my manager is from Philly and I think ah think she's rubbing off on me.
00:47:09
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And we talked about this before, how men's college basketball is the worst iteration of basketball. So the unfortunate situation here as well as like, I could not tell you the last time I sat down and watched a men's basketball game full length besides an SMU one, like as a social event, I'm not my classmates. But my thing is, I haven't watched a single women's basketball game until March Madness and I can name like 10 women's basketball players.
00:47:31
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It's just because they're popular. like like It's popular. That's the thing that people want. Because I can name a million men's basketball players. even I can name more NBA players than WNBA players. 1,000 players. Because it's popular.
00:47:42
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yeah Well, I'm not saying you. I'm saying me. I know. That sounds like, well, hold on. Because like I haven't got as much into the W because I just don't watch basketball. So like I'm getting more into it. But like out do you know this. I'll text you and be like, what is this what is this woman's name? like I love her yeah name.
00:47:56
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It just hasn't clicked with me yet because like I just don't watch basketball. so like But now that I do, I am more likely to watch the W than the men's. I've been in New York. I've been to ah Liberty Games. I still haven't been to a Knicks or Nets game. so like it But I just don't know their names.
00:48:12
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But like I can i can name i could probably name you 15 women's basketball players. Oh, 100%. And here's the thing about college women's basketball versus college men's basketball, and we can kind of use this as a segue as well, is storylines are a lot more interesting because we are dealing with athletes who have been they play their entire careers. They play the full four years. Some of them play a fifth year, a sixth year, whatever the case is.
00:48:38
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ah So many men's players are one and done. You don't get to see their development. You don't get to see, you know, understand who they are unless they have a lot of NIL deals and they're like a big name, like a Cooper flag.
00:48:49
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You don't really get to see that. Whereas on the women's side, you know, you have stories like Haley Van Lith where she's gone to the elite first player ever to go to the elite eight with three different teams because she played all five years. on straight times Come on stop playing.
00:49:01
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You know what I mean? Like she played all five years of college. So now she has this, this storyline that's interesting when she plays her old teams, that makes it interesting. You have people like Raven Johnson, who her first year or second year, i believe on South Carolina, Caitlin Clark put, put so much space between her and waved her off because she knew that she wasn't this point shooting. And she came back and shot like 35% from the line the next year.
00:49:23
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Like there's so many stories to get into and to be interested in and to and to be invested in because so many of these players and you we've been watching for the last couple of years, you know what i mean? And there's, there's a level of fandom that's easier to have on the women's side because like,
00:49:38
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The same thing with Paige Beckers, like the fact that this tournament is kind of like a farewell tour for her. Like, I'm kind of obsessed with that. Like, I love that. Like, we are cognizant of what it is that she's done at UConn and we are celebrating her in that way as she makes her way through the tournament. Like, we're not going to do that for a fifth year male player because most of them are not playing to their fifth year or they're not. A lot of them playing for second.
00:49:59
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But not even that, not even that. Just, and and maybe you can't name as many because you'd have to think about it and not have to think about it Think about the number of freshmen women's basketball players we know.
00:50:10
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Oh my God, Sarah Strong, Bobby Fournier, like Michaela Blakes. Freaking Juju Watkins was a freshman obviously last year, but everybody knew her. What's the, I literally, I was going to say her name then forgot. What's the freshman on um USC?
00:50:25
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Oh, Kennedy Smith. Kennedy Smith. The one who looks like Juju. yeah Yeah, there's a, yeah, you already said Sarah. so Like, you could just, like, you can name these freshmen on these big teams.
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00:50:35
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But, like, outside Cooper Flagg, I don't know. it' And I think Derrick Queen is a freshman.
00:50:39
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But, again, I learned his name three days ago because he hit a big shot. Yeah. i don't I don't know anyone. and And, like, men well, actually, that's not true. There's two other names that I know, but it's live in New York and my friend went to Rutgers, Ace Bailey.
00:50:52
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And I don't remember the other guy's name, but Rutgers has two really good freshmen. I mean, and I know that because of proximity. Like if I was in Ohio, I wouldn't have known them. Like I know that because like one of my good friends went to Rutgers and used to work with the program and he talks to me about those players.
00:51:06
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Like I wouldn't have known that if I was still in Ohio. And like Ace Bailey is projected to be like the number three pick in the NFL, in the NBA draft. And like, have you heard of him? Not a clue. But also I do think that women are leveraging NIL a lot better than men are.
00:51:21
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but but the thing But the thing with that is, yes, they are, but why? Because they can. Because they're more marketable. right And so it's just so it's just like, you can't tell me women's sports weren't marketable. You just weren't marketing them. You weren't marketing them. Because what has changed in the last two years?
00:51:37
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Nothing. that Well, nothing in the sense that like the game hasn't changed, but the promotion, and the energy, the resources. There was even a study done on like the amount of promotion that women's sports versus men's sports get on collegiate university, like, excuse me, on collegiate, like Instagram pages.
00:51:55
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Basically there was a study done that showed that it's like, it's like four, oh it's like 40% less. Like it's stupid. The numbers of like, How many posts per game or posts per accomplishment or women's team would get versus a men's team? Even if the men's team is not as successful as a women's team, they still get promoted more.
00:52:13
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I literally just watched the commercial a million times because I'm watching the tournament that had Juju, Paige, and Cooper flag in it. And Cooper was in it maybe two scenes, and Juju and Paige were in it. And Cooper is is a name. Like, that is a legit name.
00:52:26
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It was voiced by Paige. pay ah Sorry, yeah, voiced by Paige. Paige and Juju was in it the most. Cooper was in it a little bit. But that's just, like, Cooper, he's going to be the number one pick in the draft. We knew he was going to number one pick in the draft two The moment he touched the basketball, yeah. And this is nothing to him. It's, but, like...
00:52:41
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Juju has two more, two and a half more years in college, right? And she might play a fifth now that she's lost. Yeah, now that she's lost. She's been in college for five years. And Cooper is, not even joking, the best NBA prospect in years outside of Wemby.
00:53:00
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Last year's draft, I don't even know who the hell those players were. Zach Eadie, they were obsessed with Zach Eadie. He is a... very good prospect and he's not doing the numbers of them and it has nothing he's I mean he's literally like there's a very real chance that he won and done championship oh ah but that's how good he is but also and we're still talking about All of these other players are like these women, these female, player like there's, um, I can't think of her name right now.
00:53:28
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There's a, there's a, a gymnast at LSU who is super popular. Yes. Super. Oh my gosh. What the heck is her name? Um, shes Olivia. Yeah. She's a gymnast, right? She ain't been to the Olympics.
00:53:41
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She is just as popular as her boyfriend, who is arguably one of the best pitching prospects ever. Libby Dune. Libby Dune is one of the best. Her boyfriend is one of the, Paul Skeens is one of the best pitching prospects ever.
00:53:55
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And people are already projecting him to be a Hall of Famer. Okay. We need to calm down. No, no, no. He might be. I'm telling he's that good. he's the i that like He is legitimately that good.
00:54:09
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Literally, like his rookie year, he was a top 10 pitcher in the league. He's that good. and And if he's healthy and he plays that way, he legitimately may be a Hall of Fame. My point is, he is already top 10 to 20 in his sport.
00:54:25
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And he's been in the sport for a year. And she is a gymnast who didn't make the Olympics. And she's just as big or bigger than him. Oh my gosh. one of the highest You can't tell me that women aren't marketable when this dude's about to be in the fucking Hall of Fame if he stays healthy.
00:54:40
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didn And the Olympics is the top. And this is not, I'm not shading her, but the Olympics is the top of her sport and she has never made it there. He is at the top of his sport. And I would, um I would bet you more people know her than him. Do you know, did you, do you know, him do you know Paul schemes?
00:54:55
Speaker
Nope. But I also don't know baseball, but it doesn't matter. Like, so like, I don't even know like the main people in baseball in general. Like, I just don't know. But they're LSU's power couple. They met in school. They've been dating for a while. he went first round. Like, like the I know them because they're together sort of thing.
00:55:14
Speaker
And you know her, but not him. And I not only know her because I watched the documentary because I didn't really know her before. I'm to honest. I didn't really know her before. Yeah. So it's just. But I
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00:55:24
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understand your point. Like, you can't tell me that women aren't marketable when, like, you just can't.
00:55:29
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And I think it's also like well yeah when it comes to marketing like principles, right? I think the problem was there was, there's like almost this weird thing where like you can market a man's athleticism and it's fine, but you don't want to market a woman's ah a woman's athleticism, even though they're both athletes.
00:55:45
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So there was a lot of that going on of like, it almost seemed like you didn't know what to market when it came to women It's like you could still market them similarly. Like there's but then there's other ways to get them involved as well. Like Juju being one of the first ah players to have an NIL deal. That's makeup.
00:56:01
Speaker
Like, yeah, that makes sense. like we like Why are we just now getting makeup in and in in um um like. hair care, skin care, those kinds of things. Like, why was that? That should always have been a relationship, a combination between women's sports and brands. It doesn't have to be the same types of brands that do men's sports. Like, for me, it's like, who was in the freaking conference room? Like, who was making these decisions? And I'm not even trying to be funny. It had to be a whole bunch of old white dudes because that's only people who will overlook something so obvious. Like, change. Isn't Shea Moisture the title sponsor of the tournament right now?
00:56:35
Speaker
like There's a title sponsor of the halftime show. Okay. Shay Moisture, all these black women in sports, whether they use or not, every black woman knows Shay Moisture. We all know Shay Moisture. And half the black men know Shay Moisture. I used to use Shay Moisture. Is it Shay Moisture?
00:56:54
Speaker
What? I'm sorry. Miel. Miel is a brand that yeah that's that Angel Reese had an NIL deal with. And so then Miel now has a partnership with the Chicago Sky. It's really that simple where they do free trolley rides from the parking lot to the stadium. They sponsor trolley rides and they have the angels face ah on it from the ad that she did. It's not that hard. It's not, it's not really not.
00:57:15
Speaker
It's really not. Cause again, if men can be marketed in athletic clothing, athletic drinks, isotonic beverages, that sort of thing, whatever. You can do the women. You drink did you seen you seen Gigi's. I'm sorry.
00:57:29
Speaker
Fly J's Powerade commercial. Oh, my God. What? Powerade is. to buy something. if powerrate is gross that I want to buy hate it. um like but It don't matter. It's gross. I wanted to buy some.
00:57:44
Speaker
Just for Big Foe. Like for Big Foe, almost got some Powerade, I swear. and you know what? Because I do. I also hate Powerade. I'm sorry, but the best isotonic beverage on this planet is body armor. Yes. I will not be taking any further questions.
00:57:58
Speaker
It's body armor. but So, um and this is the one thing that i want to say ah before we move on. And we're going to change the outset of our show because we're running too long. Yes. This is why I will always support Nike because I know it's performative.
00:58:14
Speaker
I know it's performative, but whether it is or is not, Nike is always on the right side of history. every single time. Nike supported LeBron. Nike supported Serena when they were calling her monkeys and doing all this stuff. Nike did the first thing for a woman.
00:58:33
Speaker
They created ah a totally, they literally created a totally new uniform with for her. They did all of these things. they've oh And so... my area and and i under so care Yes, I understand. it's And Shakira, they could have easily dropped her. she She failed out of the Olympics for smoking weed and they they stuck with her.
00:58:51
Speaker
And stuck behind Colin Kaepernick. Yes. And so you can call it performative, you can say whatever, but so but but when so many companies, the overwhelming majority of companies are are aren't even willing to perform in their quote-unquote activism, I have to stand behind Nike.
00:59:08
Speaker
And whoever created the you can't win, so win, like You're a genius. They are geniuses. Now, I don't understand why Kayla Clark and Sabrina Ionescu are in that.
UConn's Women's Basketball Prospects
00:59:22
Speaker
Well, I guess Sabrina now because she just got a championship. yes I don't really understand why Kayla Clark is in that commercial. is so my think it's it's just like It's not that hard.
00:59:30
Speaker
It's not that hard. thank yeah And Nike seems special now, and it's just because they respect Black and women athletes. And they're not doing anything special. they I mean, they're genuinely not, but it's special because no one else is doing And so now it seems quote unquote revolutionary because there's women, that there's there's female athletes in Superbowl commercials.
00:59:49
Speaker
Why the hell was that the first Superbowl commercial for women? Like, what you what are we doing? These things just don't make sense to me. Now, it wasn't the first one, I guess, maybe from an athletic brand because Windows actually had a very, very powerful commercial about women in sports as well as Dove as well um in the last... Do you remember what it was? Because they said that was the first something commercial. It might have been the first athletic like ah swear i like pyic commercial that was women's because there have been a lot No, that's what it was.
01:00:18
Speaker
It was Nike's first Super Bowl commercial. Exactly. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was their first Super Bowl commercial in like 13 years or something like that. Yeah, because like Nike sets a big brand. They don't need to waste money on They don't have to do it. Exactly. Because, of because listen, a a spot in the Super Bowl, a commercial spot in the Super Bowl, they're going for like 8 to 10 million. Like,
01:00:33
Speaker
It's not a joke. Like these brands have to pay a lot of money just to have 20 seconds. So if you see a commercial multiple times in the Superbowl, know that they spend some bread so that way they can have it go that way. But that's the other thing too, is like when you have certain people in the room that can create, know,
01:00:49
Speaker
things that make sense, then you also have things like the Adidas commercial. Please tell me you have seen that Adidas commercial with Candice Parker and um Satu Sable and just like all the Adidas women, WNBA athletes.
01:01:04
Speaker
And it's like very like heartwarming and like Satu makes like a half court shot and they're all like celebrating her and stuff like that. And they're like sitting there like talking and they're like, man, like she's the truth. Like she always goes right, but she's left-handed. And they're like,
01:01:16
Speaker
I'll send you the commercial. It is. It is fantastic because Candace Parker is the president of basketball at Adidas. Yes. but And the last one on commercials. Have you seen the RDC World commercial for women's basketball?
01:01:31
Speaker
The what? i you know RDC World it is? the ah the the people The people who do the like, I'm 36, like who do like the ah Jemaine Cole, like the skits on YouTube.
01:01:43
Speaker
It's like they're like all black. They do like anime skits, LeBron skits. They're like, you've never seen like the video. Like you've had to see. you not on that corner of the internet You've never seen like the video where like LeBron after winning the ring is like, give me the ring.
01:01:55
Speaker
Give me a ring. I have so many videos to send you. It doesn't matter. It's a collective become like absolutely it's a collective of Black and Brown people who started with like anime, and then they got really famous doing like skits. on like like When LeBron won the championship, they did like a skit that was like LeBron taking people's ring because he had to win it by himself. and like They did like a when they when they traded AD.
01:02:18
Speaker
ah but Either way. There's a commercial... um Okay. Whether you know who they are or not, have you seen the commercial where there's like hecklers and they're like opposing team heckler. She can't there. Yes. Yes. It's Under Armour commercial. All of those people, that's RDC world. that's Oh, I don't know those people. Yeah. It's a group of people who started doing skits like years ago. and mike bloom Oh, I thought they were actors. I had no idea. No, no, no. It's a group of friends that i was sending some videos you so you can see it. But either way, like that commercial is great.
01:02:44
Speaker
And a it was also great because like, it's a group of dudes who literally just was making YouTube videos and now they're an Under Armour commercials. But like, lit anyways the point is we have made our point please what is the point say it one more time the point is no one watches men's sports no i'm just kidding um the point is so the point is women's sports are so important and when you pour resources time effort into marketing them properly it will yield great dividends so super regional for the tournament it was definitely a decision made by people who felt like the game was
01:03:19
Speaker
stagnant or was only going to be in one place and you know now we see that there is room for it to eat to be a similar structure to the men's now we are not going to be recording again until the actual day of the championship for the women's side so we're gonna go very very fast and just give i don't even have time to review the games i'm just gonna say no no we like like for reference for reference for those of you who listen that conversation was our two minute drill Yeah, we spoke about it for 30 minutes.
01:03:53
Speaker
So let's, yeah. Let's just look at the women's bracket. We're going to say who we, now the the final four is, will be fully determined by tomorrow. So by the time you guys are listening to this, the final four will already be determined. No, already no, it won't.
01:04:07
Speaker
Yes. Those games are at night. So they listen like this, right this drops in the morning. oh we yeah m Well, I'm saying like, you'll listen to us and the final four will be like determined the same day that you were listening.
01:04:20
Speaker
So ciao. Anyways, um we already have half of the final four. So there's not really much ah predictions that we can make UCLA and South Carolina have already punched a ticket. USC and UConn are playing for a spot and then Texas and TCU are playing for a spot um very quickly. I do think UConn and TCU you are going to be the ones who make it out of that. Okay. Your team TCU as well?
01:04:43
Speaker
I'm not team TCU who per se. I'm team Haley Van Liff. Yes, HBO. Yeah, because I can't be team Sedona Prince. I am so sorry.
01:04:53
Speaker
but i so i showed um i showed short of Shorty a video of Malaysia for Wiley, and I was like, if my daughter or if any of my kids do something like this, I'm going lose my mind and they're going kick me out the arena. And she was like, you have to act like you have some common sense. I said, okay, that's fine. And then I showed her a video of Haley Van Liff's dad because he'd be going crazy.
01:05:11
Speaker
I said, this is the best that I can do. This is the best that I can do. When he was running down the stairs? Yes, yes. I said, this is it. I'm going to be extra. I'm going to be extra. I love the girl dads, like the celebration. She had a shot. He ran down flights of stairs. He was like... Dapping people up.
01:05:30
Speaker
And I don't even need them to be at a D1 level. like Haley's up there. It doesn't matter. like i'm I'm yelling at the band concert. But like if if they do reach that level, you can't... I'm sorry. You can't be my child.
01:05:43
Speaker
and run full speed, go behind the back, hop step, and throw up a shot and make it, and me not stop. Child, please. My original Final Four was...
01:05:55
Speaker
final four was um NC State, UConn, South Carolina, and Notre Dame. So I'm to be off on probably two. um But that was my original Final Four. But now that we have some, yeah, I think TCU and UConn. So mine is UCLA, South Carolina. Obviously, they already made it.
01:06:12
Speaker
UConn and TCU. Because realistically, I didn't think UCLA was making it to that Final Four, honey. yeah Yeah. I didn't i wasn't believing. I was not drinking y'all's Kool-Aid. I'm so sorry. i do have a sip now ah from today.
01:06:27
Speaker
So you're team TCU and obviously team UConn. So we're on the same page with the final four. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I thought, I mean, charge I will say, yeah, my, my elite eight was just very, it was giving very much busted.
01:06:42
Speaker
Um, is giving very much my bracket is done for the day. But I did see that some ESPNW posted that only 13 brackets are correct um at this point, like out of the billions.
01:06:53
Speaker
So, you know, none of us saw this coming. ah hum But my pick for the championship, I've been saying this on the internet. Hopefully you guys are following me on TikTok at DJ. You can also follow me on Twitch at nasia underscore D if you would like for me to, if you would like to watch me watch games and be ghetto.
01:07:10
Speaker
But... but My pick for the championship is UConn. It always has been UConn. um I think they're going to do it. I really, really do. They're the only team also right now coming into the Elite Eight because they're still in Elite Eight play that is comfortably winning.
01:07:28
Speaker
Like, comfortably and and what's the word I'm looking for? and compet like that Like, they haven't really experienced any real competition because they've just been smacking ass all the way through.
01:07:39
Speaker
um Now that Juju's not on USC, I mean, there's not really much of an obstacle. Not saying the USC isn't good, but UConn is the only team coming into the final four that seems comfortable and ready to win a championship. The rest of these teams look like, yeah, you know, it's getting a little scary. Yeah. but yeah And honestly, it's aside from the fact that like page is on a mission.
01:08:05
Speaker
we we We haven't talked about it because we haven't been able to record, but people have talked about and I agree. They are also legitimately the deepest team. like page They are. Besides South Carolina, yeah.
01:08:16
Speaker
Paige has that one because she was injured. And then when she was healthy, everyone else everybody else was injured. And then on top AZFUD, Paige... Sarah Strong.
01:08:27
Speaker
Sorry, I was going to save her for last. There was another person. ah Who was that? Who I thinking of? It doesn't matter. On top of them being back and healthy, Sarah Strong, one of, if not the best freshmen in the country. So like you add her, and then you have what...
01:08:40
Speaker
um kk is giving you you kk arnold ashley shade sophie chan it's just like ashley like like mean the way the way page finished the game they were going to win anyway but there was through the first half ashley was single-handedly keeping them in the game with her oh yeah it's just like on top of ashley is the queen of a timely three honey yeah on top of juju's injury on top of south carolina i'm gonna call it their youth because like I know they have older players but their best players are young yeah and and and and so on top of South Carolina's youth on top of these other things UConn already had maybe the best chance to win but then you add in Juju's injury you add in South Carolina's you you add in the fact that Paige you feel like just better lose before they play Paige well they are because they're gonna play Paige
01:09:34
Speaker
Because if if you can beat USC, then they're on the same side of the bracket. So they you ah you see a. Played again to the championship.
01:09:43
Speaker
Mm hmm.
01:09:46
Speaker
Oh, because UConn just made it. UConn just made it. it I'm assuming UConn will make it. Sorry. UCLA just made it. Yes. So because they made it, if UConn wins, they play each other. They're playing each other to get into the championship.
01:10:00
Speaker
Yes. Oh, that's foul. That's foul. That's foul. That's foul as hell. Because we just watched what Paige does to drop coverage. And no shade no shade to Lauren Betts, but she can only play drop coverage. Paige is going to kill them. all going kill do the the thing about it though kill them the thing about it though is that like lauren pett's is so good she's so good like i don't i didn't watch ucla a whole lot this year just because i i just wasn't drinking the kool-aid like i just wasn't like i don't have a problem with the team or anything i just wasn't watching i didn't really start to watch them until
01:10:36
Speaker
the the the tournament and I've watched obviously last night when they played LSU ah granted, I do think had there not been a lid on that bucket, LSU would have made it to the final four, but I'm not going to get into that at the moment because this just wasn't the best time for Michaela Williams to have her worst shooting season.
01:10:51
Speaker
game out of the entire tournament because if Mikayla was actually making some shots I'm so sorry UCLA UCLA is not making it why because Samaya Smith figured out how to lock Lauren Betts up and I hope so bad that Sarah Strong was paying attention Because the way that she locked her up, still being at least three inches shorter than her, it was a masterclass in defense. It was a masterclass in defense as a undersize as the undersized big.
01:11:18
Speaker
Oh, my God. So if they can figure out how to lock Lauren up the same way they did, the same way the LSU did, oh, yeah, it's over. Because realistically, like, UCLA's, like, lot in life right now is Lauren Best. Like, granted, yes, they do have other players that can drop threes and do all these other things. I'm not knocking the rest of the roster, but.
01:11:38
Speaker
It's also like they go as Lauren Betts goes.
Texas vs South Carolina Matchup Speculation
01:11:40
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So.
01:11:43
Speaker
Yes.
01:11:46
Speaker
yeah And it would be actually really funny if Texas did beat TCU and then had to go play South Carolina for the third time. This time it would be for ah spot in the championship.
01:11:57
Speaker
yeah That would be hilarious. All right. Well, let's, let's. And.
01:12:04
Speaker
Maybe I should maybe I shouldn't bring this up. but I'll just ask you a very quick question. I saw something TikTok and they were talking about Paige, I believe.
01:12:15
Speaker
And just like, say oh sorry. No, they weren't. They were talking about USC's freshmen and how they keep winning without Juju. And they were basically saying, like, I don't think USC's coach is a good coach.
01:12:27
Speaker
Uh-huh. Because they're able to do these things. But when you watch them when Juju's there, it's like she doesn't have any help. Because she's not designing any sort of offense or like featuring these players.
01:12:37
Speaker
And then Juju's out and these players can play. And it's just like you could probably design some things better. And do you have a ah thought on this? Because I have a thought. I texted you my thought on this even before I started hearing the noise. But I just.
01:12:49
Speaker
um don't remember what you. What did you say? I will say it. But I want to know what your thought is. um I think that Lindsey Gottlieb completely mismanaged Juju, yeah. um didn't want to say anything about it at first because I don't don't like to criticize coaching methods, but I really, after seeing the way that USC played after Juju went down, I was just so irritated because it's like, okay, well, then Juju's usage rate didn't even probably never needed to be nearly as high as it actually was. she They could have really truly designed some beautiful team basketball around her
01:13:20
Speaker
and Kennedy and that other girl, the one who scored 18, Herschel or Heckle or whatever her last name is. yeah Plus, he, he, he, plus whoever they want to put as the fourth person and to see them play this team basketball, this beautiful, well-managed, well-choreographed basketball without Juju.
01:13:39
Speaker
It begs the question, is this a coaching thing or is this an ego thing? And I don't think this an ego thing on Juju's part. I really don't. I think that she would be she would do fine. so it's it's it's I can tell you for sure it's not a Juju thing because i like and like on the podcast that we listen to, the women's basketball one, they were basically like, Lindsay was almost crying when
USC's Strategy and Juju's Impact
01:13:59
Speaker
Juju went out.
01:14:00
Speaker
Like, I think that she's like, we have Juju. I'm putting everything on her. On Juju. Yeah. Because like, it like this can seem like she didn't take Juju out of games because Juju didn't want to sit down and this and this and this. You're the coach.
01:14:12
Speaker
Literally. Like. literally like she's 19. If y'all look up by 30 and she don't want to sit down, oh fucking well. What is she going to do? You have to load manage a player like that who gets 40 minutes a game.
01:14:26
Speaker
You have to load manage that. And to me, shit there were times where Juju was on the floor and Juju did not need to be on the floor. And I don't know if it's because of pressure for ticket sales or because of broadcast deals and all those other things, whatever the case is, because USC had this ridiculous deal with Peacock where all of their games on pe were on Peacock. was very annoying.
01:14:44
Speaker
All of their big games or were on Peacock. It wasn't on NBC. It was just on Peacock. And I understand that that is a very lucrative thing and Juju needs to be playing and all this other stuff. But...
01:14:55
Speaker
yeah The way that that team was structured, you would think that Juju was playing around a whole bunch of scrubs. Seriously. And it was just her and Kiki. like Like, no disrespect to Iowa, but you would have thought it was Kaitlin and Iowa. You would have thought it was Kaitlin because Iowa is not worth anything now.
01:15:09
Speaker
They have he players. And so the thing that I said to you before is i was just like, USC never should have lost to UCLA. Yeah. Because Juju, like i seen clips of other games and now I'm realizing that it just sort of happened. It wasn't designed like that.
01:15:25
Speaker
You watch UConn and what they did against who they just played with drop coverage. And it was literally designed that whoever, well do you remember Oklahoma's beers, Reagan beers? Mm-hmm.
01:15:40
Speaker
The offense for most of the game was it you know one name whoever Reagan Beers is guarding is going to screen for Paige. and And Reagan, because of who she is, she's going to drop.
01:15:53
Speaker
And so Paige hit like 15 shots. Mid-range jumpers. yeah las Thank you, sorry. Mid-range jumpers because...
01:16:06
Speaker
the screen was good so whether you went over or under she was still getting open because shorty was in drop coverage and sometimes for whatever reason they went under and then she was naked and it's just like in the middle of of the page i literally told you i was like what like ah before the game i literally told you i was like usc's gonna win because ucla plays drop coverage and they're just gonna put juju in the mid-range and she's just gonna hit a bunch of shots and i don't think they did it all game And it's like, it's not even that Juju just didn't do it.
01:16:35
Speaker
It wasn't the offense. It wasn't planned. You could tell that Gino said, if you are guarded by Reagan, doesn't matter what side of the court, you screen for Paige. Paige is going to go to the middle. They're going to drop.
01:16:47
Speaker
And it's lit. She had so many shots. and And it's just and that. And so on top of everything that you said, just not even doing the right game plan. Because one of Juju's best parts of her game is the mid-range.
01:17:00
Speaker
Like just naturally as a freshman, just naturally. you, like Lauren Betts is a great blocker. Why are you putting Juju out there so she can get blocked four or five times? by Every time she takes a layup. When she's going to drop and you're going to be naked in the midrange. And so even before all the other things, and then I saw that because of how they're playing. And I'm like, yeah, I think i think she just mismanaged. I think she fell into the And that's the thing with like,
01:17:28
Speaker
I always, for whatever reason, I like to compare Juju to LeBron, but that's the thing with LeBron where it's like everyone like blames LeBron for like coaching and things like that. And LeBron is like, I want to be coached hard. And a lot of his coaches haven't done that, but the coaches who have coached him hard, who've yelled at him, who've run things, who've gotten other players involved, those are always the team that he runs on. it And I get it. You have LeBron.
01:17:47
Speaker
I get it. You have KD. I get it. You have Steph. I get it. You have these players, but you still have to run a system. You still have to have other players involved. You still have to.
01:17:58
Speaker
You got to be able to score when they're not in The amount of times if the offense was just
UConn vs South Carolina Debate
01:18:02
Speaker
Juju bouncing the ball somewhere and then taking a shot, and that was the offense, it's like, bro, you could still run an ah offense for Juju. Like, you could still do that.
01:18:13
Speaker
so And the thing with Paige, Paige literally scored zero points in the second quarter. And then when they needed her to take over, she scored 29 in the second half. 19 in the fourth quarter.
01:18:25
Speaker
But Paige doesn't need to be on all game because there are other players and they trust the other players and Geno runs an offense for them. And you would think that USC doesn't have other players.
01:18:36
Speaker
You would think the way that they have been playing basketball all year has been put the ball in Juju's hands and ISO. That is what they've been doing all year. And this is what I talked about when they were coming into the tournament was all of these teams are going game plan for Juju.
01:18:51
Speaker
What the heck is it? What are y'all going to do? What are y'all going to do when they game plan for Juju and they put three bodies on her every single time? What are y'all going to do? Because that is going to be somebody's defensive scheme is they're going to run two one two That way they can have a help side come. and trap on each side of Juju, on each side that Juju goes to. That's, that's, that's the defense that you get, that you put against Juju Watkins, right?
01:19:13
Speaker
Like what, you know what I mean? or really, really, really hard man coverage. So like, what were y'all going to do? Because again, the, the offense always seemed to be to me, put the ball in Juju's hand, maybe put the ball in Kiki's hand, because that's one thing I did notice in the game that Juju tore her ACL in.
01:19:31
Speaker
that for the first five minutes of the game, she was actually working very, very hard to get the ball inside to Kiki Iria-Fan. I don't know if anybody was paying attention. It was the first time I've really seen her try to distribute, genuinely try to distribute.
01:19:43
Speaker
She was coming down the court. she was i think I don't know maybe if they're working on her really kind of coming into more of a point guard role rather than a star guard role. But for her first five minutes, she was working very hard to get that ball inside to Kiki. So it looks like they were working on it.
01:19:58
Speaker
It's just unfortunate that we don't really know what that would have actually. look like. But yeah, i I, what sucks, and I hate to say this like this, but what sucks is which when that ankle buckled in that first game and she hobbled off the, she hobbled off the court. don't know if you saw this video, but it ends up,
01:20:17
Speaker
Basically, damn, it looked like, i mean, she bent her ankle. It was bad. Bent her ankle, went off the court, was like, ah, shit, my ankle. But they still had the ball. She ran back onto the court. they She ran back onto the court, called for the ball, and popped a three. it was actually insane.
01:20:32
Speaker
It was very Michael Jordan of her. but her body was breaking down. she Something was happening to her hand, her ankle hurts. She's limping off the court because she's being overused.
01:20:44
Speaker
And now look what happened. You're telling me there wasn't a few games where when they was up by 10, 15, 20, you can't sit her down? Like, but I don't know, because now she's been seriously injured. and i don And I want to be very clear with what I'm saying.
01:20:59
Speaker
As an athlete, once you have experienced a serious injury, you become a lot more aware of the mortality of your body and you become a lot more aware of the value of rest and the value of taking care of yourself so you can get to the next game.
01:21:16
Speaker
So I think that this is going to really help Juju understand that as much as you don't want to sit down, as much as you always want to be involved, you still have to take care of body.
01:21:28
Speaker
I mean, it helped Paige, and that's the best. It helped Paige. It helped Paige. helped Olivia Miles. It helped. You could name a lot of people who've torn to ACL and came back and were a lot better. You can you can name lots of people. Yep. All right. This
Abbott Elementary Recommendation
01:21:40
Speaker
show is not supposed to be this long, but you know we got passion. got me talking about women's basketball. So who do you think are playing for the championship? I'm sure it's the same answer as mine, but just in case.
01:21:51
Speaker
It's for sure UConn.
01:21:56
Speaker
Hold on, wait. TCU Texas is going to play, whoever wins TCU Texas is going to play South Carolina? on Yeah. Okay, it's going to be UConn South Carolina. UConn's going to win. Like, South Carolina has been BSing their way through it, but I don't see, i mean, maybe, okay.
01:22:12
Speaker
You could argue maybe, especially on the theory of it's hard to beat a team three times, you could argue that if Texas gets through and the way South Carolina has been playing that they may beat them.
01:22:25
Speaker
But I'm still going to go UConn, South Carolina, and UConn by 12. UConn by 12. Okay. South Carolina's been bullshitting, and Pace is not letting that rock. They have. I'm sorry. Pace is not letting that rock.
01:22:37
Speaker
If Pace gets to the championship, I think it doesn't matter who's there. It's barbecue chicken. It really is. It doesn't matter, honestly, because they're going to win. I think the same thing. I think UConn, South Carolina. I do think the game will be closer, though.
01:22:49
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I do think it's going to be UConn 8 by like 8 or 6. Do think South Carolina is finally going to show up? I think South Carolina is going to show up. Yeah. Because that's the thing. UConn came into their house and broke their streak and smacked that ass. they try to They're trying to send a message. So so i i think there's a lot of... You know what i think happens?
01:23:10
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I think UConn sends the message this game. and the final four and everyone's like hyping them again. And then they BS again and Kays not going And then South Carolina's.
01:23:21
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but finger tip big if No, sorry, sorry, sorry. i'm I'm sorry. Maybe I said that wrong I think South Carolina is going to make their statement this game. And they're going to win by like, yeah, they're going to win by like 15 or something. Everyone's like, South Carolina's back. South Carolina's back.
01:23:36
Speaker
And then I think they're going to BS again. in the And because it's just youth, like they're a good team. but It's just youth. it's It's two things. It's youth. And it's the fact that they just don't have the one dominant player. Like there's not the one player that like. You hate it when old girls said that though.
01:23:50
Speaker
Right. But my thing is, I don't think that matters against 300 teams, but it matters against UConn. A couple. Yeah, you're right. Like, you can't tell me Duke is going to beat them because they don't have a star player. Like, shut up.
01:24:02
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like Like, all of their players are so good. But when it comes to playing UConn, right like If they were playing LSU with Angel, like when it comes to the top of the top, then it matters.
01:24:14
Speaker
But like I'm sorry. you You weren't going to tell me Maryland was going to win because they don't have a superstar when they have Malaysia. Maryland did almost win. and thats but the thing But yeah, and they did.
01:24:25
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But my thing is, it's not because they don't have a superstar. It's because they're young. i think And then they locked in, and then they were able to shut him down. I mean, Duke scored eight points in the fourth quarter.
01:24:36
Speaker
My thing with South Carolina, it's not that they don't have a superstar. It's just that they don't have focus because they're young. Because when they need to, like, Duke, they held Duke to eight points in the fourth quarter. It's their lowest outage all year.
01:24:48
Speaker
Like, when they needed to lock in, they've locked in. And it hasn't, it's never been scoring. It's really, it's honestly just been, like, defense. So, like, that's why i don't think the superstar thing matters. But where the youth matters is,
01:25:00
Speaker
You're going to BS, but all the teams, like I text you all the time, the problem with South Carolina and is they've missed all these shots and you're only up on them by one. If they miss all them same shots with Paige, they're going to be up by 11. By 20, yeah. Like that's the thing.
01:25:15
Speaker
I think the thing with South Carolina, I don't even know if it's their, I don't know if it's their use per se. I think it's a matter of they're not used to playing close games. And you can tell that they're not used to playing close But I think that matters when you're young.
01:25:31
Speaker
Well, no, no, no. What I'm saying is like, I just think the South Carolina lineup general population, the older players, the the team itself is not used to, oh shit, like we're not just fucking, what am I trying to say?
01:25:47
Speaker
Like, yes, I see what you're saying about youth and that is playing a factor in it. um But I also do really feel like they just haven't been in enough situations where every single possession mattered.
01:26:00
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And now they're in games where every single possession matters. Because this team, again, back to the youth thing, this team is the team that's riding the coattails of the one that just won a championship and was undefeated. Some of them were on that undefeated team.
01:26:12
Speaker
So they're just not used to like actually being in close games for real. So I think you're right, but I think we're both right. And the reason why said that- Yeah, no, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying like there's another element to Yeah, but I think they're in close games because of their youth.
01:26:26
Speaker
Because you think of the things that keeps the game close. It's not, it's bad shot making. yes It's frustrating turnovers. it's It's like, it's little mistakes that like, like for example, Malaysia Fawaii got, and you can argue if they were all there or not, but she got called for like traveling like four or five times.
01:26:44
Speaker
And a couple of them were traveling. As a junior senior, she's not doing that. You know what I mean? Like, I think that there are a couple of things that happen that, like, some of the shot making, some of the bad threes, some of the, like, the bad passes and these things that are keeping the games close.
01:26:59
Speaker
That's not going to happen when Malaysia is a junior or senior. That's not going to happen yeah when they it's it's it's, that's why I say the youth. And so then because of the youth, they get in games that are a little tighter And then what you're saying matters.
01:27:12
Speaker
And then it's like, ah, what's going what's gonna happen like What's going on? And then they just get it yeah then they just like lock in. Where the difference with UConn, where it's not youth, UConn's problem is sometimes they just miss shots.
01:27:23
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But they never feel like they're going to lose because they they always have the poise and the things of the age. And eventually that wins out. And they play like for losing all the time. Right, where South Carolina doesn't.
01:27:36
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And I yeah think that's because of the youth. and that like so we're both right in that they're not used to close games, but the games that Duke scored like 30 points and won, that game wouldn't have been close.
01:27:49
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It was only close because of South Carolina's youth. Bad shots and all those other things. And, I mean, I do think specifically in that Duke game, day were they were playing against the refs a little bit, but I'm not going to get into that right now. But but there has been there have been a couple of games, not just with South Carolina, just in general, where I'm like, I don't know who's the bigger competition, the opposing team or the officials.
01:28:11
Speaker
Like, I really don't know. But anyways... Enough of that. Because we have been here forever. Yes. My two minute learning is probably quicker than yours.
01:28:25
Speaker
And I don't, I can't believe this is just your two minute warning. Cause I could say so many things about this. I'm going to have to change it. Like, so you have to change it. I'm sorry. But it's also like relevant now. so I'm just like, yeah will we sit here and be on the show for two hours? Cause like, Oh my God, I have so many things to say about your two minute warning.
01:28:41
Speaker
Mine is very simple. It's very quick. If you have not tapped into Abbott elementary, do that. The show is hilarious. it is so It is so black in the best kinds of ways. like It just has the perfect cultural references.
01:28:55
Speaker
The jokes are hilarious. The chemistry between the cast is hilarious. I have been watching it nonstop. I just got into it because I watch sports year-round, y'all. So sometimes it is hard to like watch actual TV because I watch sports. So...
01:29:09
Speaker
When I get a chance to watch TV, like now all the games are over today, I will probably watch some Abbott Elementary. um It has quickly become one of my favorite shows. It is absolutely hilarious.
01:29:20
Speaker
If you have not gotten into it, get into it. And we know for sure that there will at least be five seasons. So if you're like me and you have a three-season minimum before you start a show, rest assured there are going to be at least five seasons. You're like that too?
01:29:31
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. We, we, we.
Accountability in Society and Media
01:29:34
Speaker
we We like this. Everybody think I'm crazy for that. No, I'm not doing this. I'm not falling in love with the show and then you don't bring it back. Get out of my face. I am not doing that.
01:29:42
Speaker
The only shows that I watch that are one season and I'm okay with being one season is like reality love show. I will watch any cheesy reality love TV show. I will. I don't care if it has multiple seasons or not.
01:29:52
Speaker
But other than that. That's why I love, like I've mentioned this all the time. i love Netflix like little eight episodes. Yeah, yeah. Because I know they're only a season. and it starts to finish either give me the whole story yes four five seasons exactly in between stuff so okay i'm trying to i i can't change my mind i'm trying to figure out how to word it without going too too too deep into it i just feel like there's no way not to go too deep into this this is what i will say and if we do it we do it we haven't we haven't been here in like three weeks if we go long we go long as long as as long as you're okay because you've had a weekend
01:30:26
Speaker
I'm not okay. So yes, go ahead. It's all right. No, so then just don't say a lie. i won't say a lie. We'll be fine. This is what I'm going to say. I think I'm not someone who believes that like society's too sensitive and PC culture and all of these things. I think so many of these conversations happen because people don't like the consequences of their actions. And I think that's a problem. You should be willing and able to accept the consequences of your actions.
01:30:55
Speaker
But the one thing I will say that sort of maybe differs from that is I think we've grown too comfortable with not being called out for being wrong.
01:31:06
Speaker
Oh yeah. And I know that you understand this because you're in a sorority and we have these things where it's like, like people can't accept brotherly and sisterly advice. Yes. Like, Hey, you shouldn't do this or you shouldn't wear this or you should delete this and like less serious things.
01:31:22
Speaker
And the example that I always use is Will Smith, right? yeah So many people got mad at Will Smith for slapping Chris Rock. And I'm just like, since when could you not defend your wife?
01:31:34
Speaker
because 50, 60 years ago, you could kill somebody over your wife and that's not what I'm saying. that's fine. Yeah, exactly. But like, since when can't you defend your wife? Right? Like, you know' mean Like, since when can't you tell people that they're wrong? Since when can't you check people?
01:31:48
Speaker
and and and And I don't think that we're too sensitive in like, You shouldn't be able to make gay jokes. You shouldn't. Your joke wasn't funny. People make gay jokes all the time. If it's funny and not punching down, it's fine. Yours wasn't a joke.
01:32:03
Speaker
You said it and I felt like believed that. You're like, hate gay people. Am right? You can't make that joke. Right? Like, no, that's just not funny. You can get away with certain things. It's not PC culture. It's not sensitivity. You're just not good at it.
01:32:15
Speaker
And the things that you could get away in the seventies, eighties and nineties, like I love, love, I love, um ah
01:32:26
Speaker
Eddie Murphy's special. I was like, I don't know where you're going. Like, like Eddie Murphy's special, his raw and delirious. Raw is so. They're so funny. My wife won't watch them because they're so freaking offensive.
01:32:41
Speaker
Like oh he could not do, I believe Eddie Murphy could do a special today and still be funny because I think he's funny. The special he did in the 90s. Right. The special he did in the 90s, he did in the 90s because he was allowed to do it.
01:32:52
Speaker
Yeah. There's a lot of people who want ninety s comedy. and can't do 2025 comedy because you're just not funny. I've heard trans jokes that were funny. I've heard gay jokes that were funny. I've heard black jokes that were funny. I watch fucking Family Guy, but I watch it because it's funny. It's good jokes, even though like I'll,
01:33:11
Speaker
I watch fucking It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. And the first episode of It's Always Sunny is The Gang Gets Racist. That is literally the first episode. But it doesn't feel like they're not punching down.
01:33:21
Speaker
the the The joke of It's Always Sunny is the main characters. It's not the black people. It's not the women. It's not the gay people. It's not any of the things. The jokes is how awful the main characters are. So when the main characters get racist or they say these things, the joke is always on them.
01:33:36
Speaker
It doesn't make you feel bad as a person. yeah And so I say all of this to say, Stephen A is going on this, as LeBron said it, this Taylor Swift-Eras tour, talking about him.
01:33:47
Speaker
And the problem is you just could not handle being checked for saying something wrong. And Stephen A, you have said forever, why don't these people, I'd be at the games. I'm not hiding. I'm here. You can check me. You can say these things.
01:34:00
Speaker
And so LeBron finally does it for the first time in his 27-year career. He finally does it. And he doesn't even do it for himself. He does it because you question him as a father, but here as a man, over his son.
01:34:16
Speaker
And now you are complaining and you're doing all these things. And then on top of that, you go on this, oh, if he would have swung on me, I'd have had to swing back and all these other kind of things. No one was going to be violent. Shut up and No one was going to be violent.
01:34:29
Speaker
You said something you shouldn't have said. He came to you as a man like you supposedly wanted your entire career. You requested. And you didn't like it.
01:34:40
Speaker
And then for the first time in his million-year career, he goes on a show. And it's an hour long. It's over an hour. I watched the whole episode. He maybe talks about you for five minutes, cracks a couple jokes. About four minutes and 37 seconds. Yep.
01:34:55
Speaker
cracks a couple jokes, and you're losing your fucking mind, but you've been talking about him for 20-something years, and you've been talking about his kid, and the argument that everyone makes is name another 55th pick that you've talked about. Nobody even talks about the first and second pick of last year's draft who are fucking garbage.
01:35:12
Speaker
So, yes. Cheeks. This is the last thing that I'm going to say about it because if we don't we're going to go too long. I think we have gotten to a place where people feel like because of the internet, because of typing, because of things, that when you are genuinely wrong, you cannot be checked for being wrong.
01:35:32
Speaker
And I think it is insane that ESPN and media and social media and all these things have let Stephen A get to a point where he thinks he's equal to LeBron James. LeBron James.
01:35:44
Speaker
Yes. you are not like steven you could be lebron lebron davante james you think that you think you you think you are in the same category as lebron
01:36:01
Speaker
in what context Quickly. He literally said, I'm going to be here when you retire. And you're still going talking about him. Because you know who you're talking about? You talk about Jordan 27 fucking years later. When LeBron to retires, he's not going to be forgotten. When you retire, my sorry, my kid is not going to know who Stephen A. Smith No one's going to be here. Because don't got a kid right now. not going to know who Stephen A. Smith But you know who the fuck he's going to? He's going to know LeBron.
01:36:25
Speaker
He's going to Kyrie. He's going to know KD. He's going to know Michael Jordan. He's going to all these people. And so... That's my last comment. I just think two things have happened. ESPN and all these people have gotten to a point where it's insane that Stephen A can even believe that he could say, I'm still going to be here when LeBron retires and things like that. But also, I just don't understand how we've gotten to a point where you can't address someone for being wrong.
01:36:53
Speaker
If you talk about T.J.' 's wife in front of thousands of people and on national TV, you should be able to address it. If you question a Black man, any man, but in this particular case, a Black man who was a father at fucking like 19, you question his him as a father for caring about his son, for wanting his son to get to the NBA, for doing for for sacrificing all of these things, you question him as a father?
01:37:20
Speaker
Because what do you think Kobe would have done if you would have talked to about Gigi, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, what you if you talked about Natalia? you know what I'm saying? Like, what would you think? Like, you know, we can joke and we can joke and play about Michael Jordan not loving his kids, but what would Michael have done if he was on TV talking about Marcus, right? Like, what would, what, like, you like, because everyone's like super homophobic and transphobic and all these things, nobody talks about Zia Wade. Like, what did Dwayne Wade do?
01:37:46
Speaker
Right? And I don't know the pronouns of Magic Johnson's child. um I think it's he, him still. he But like, who who talks about Maddie Johnson's child? Because what is Maddie going to do if you talk about his child on national TV? So we're at this place where you can't correct, you can't address people as a man for being wrong because you have a platform and you're saying shit and then going to get on that platform and you're going lie? You're going to say he wasn't at Kobe's funeral?
01:38:11
Speaker
Steve, now you're taking all my points. You're going you should been at Dwayne Wade's thing? Sorry. You're going to say you should have been at Dwayne Wade's thing when his son was in the hospital because he almost died? Almost died.
01:38:23
Speaker
go ahead. Now you took all my points. Um, the biggest thing that I was irritated with is just that, like, we don't have real sports media any more.
01:38:36
Speaker
And that is why i am so determined to be one of those individuals. who become a very prolific figure in
Criticism of Sports Media Landscape
01:38:43
Speaker
sports media. I hope that is the goal because i want to bring back real sports media.
01:38:48
Speaker
I want to bring back real TV shows that talk about sports. We are now moving into the realm of love and hip hop when it comes to first take, because I don't need to ever know in my life that Kendrick Perkins has LeBron but blocked on Instagram. I don't care. like it's just It's just drama and gossip and nonsense.
01:39:05
Speaker
And even when there was conversations about the WNBA and Monica McNutt called Stephen A out because you've never talked about women's sports now. And now the only time you want to talk about it is to, ah is to a cost and chastise these women who have been in the league for years over how y'all perceive that Caitlin Clark is being treated.
01:39:23
Speaker
So I've always been irritated with Stephen A because he does say outlandish things and it's not about the sport anymore. And I don't feel like he has any real actual knowledge about sports. I just think that he's a crazy person.
01:39:36
Speaker
shucking and driving black guy that they can put on tv and he's going to scream and yell and he's going to dance and he's going to do the things he's going to you know laugh all the way to the bank knowing that he's offering nothing right now as far as real actual sport commentary because someone's fatherhood should never come up on a sports television show that should just not even be a conversation Someone's fatherhood, someone's manhood, anything like that should never come up on a sports television show you should be talking about. Because they're going to talk about LeBron no matter what lebron brownie no matter what pick he is, right? They're going to talk about him because he's LeBron James' son. That's on period. Because he's also trying to act like LeBron was just mad about him talking about his son.
01:40:16
Speaker
LeBron was mad about what you actually said. And the thing about it is LeBron has let a lot of bullshit that you have said slide. A lot of things LeBron has turned the other cheek and he's been like, you know what? It is what it is. Now, has LeBron been honest about how he feels about sports media? He absolutely has. Because remember, that was just two weeks ago when LeBron said sports media. He didn't say first take. He didn't say the Pat McAfee show. He didn't say yeah ESPN. He said sports media is not covering the sport of basketball very well. That is what he said. And that man I'll be damned if Stephen A didn't crash out on first take three days after that because he thought LeBron was talking about him.
01:40:52
Speaker
So, hit dogs are going to holler. Hit dogs are going holler because you know that you're not adding anything of substance to the sport anymore. you should be We should be hearing about how the Cavaliers are having the best season of their freaking lives.
01:41:09
Speaker
That is what we need to be talking about. We need to be talking about how Boston's probably not going to make it out of the East because of the Cavs. That is a conversation that we need to be having. The conversation we need be having is about how Wimby, obviously he was out, but how Wimby was doing so well previous.
01:41:24
Speaker
Like, we need to talk about SGA finally probably getting an MVP. Yeah. Y'all talking about nonsense. and And LeBron himself has said that. That's why he said he created Mind the Game.
01:41:36
Speaker
Because, like, just for example, just to use for an example, right? Because LeBron has said this himself. Basketball is the only sport that really does this.
01:41:48
Speaker
When Tom Brady was missing practices because he was getting divorced and he was having problems with his wife and like all these things, they didn't talk about that. That didn't come up on any of the... NFL media that didn't come up on NFL network that didn't come up on any of the NFL podcast all they said is Tom Brady's missing practices this is what it means for the Patriots and and and in basketball and I won't say the only because maybe there's other ones but basketball is the main culprit of the there's no real analysis on the sports the the the only time the NFL football really gets outside of football is the draft
01:42:22
Speaker
yeah and And it's because they think these stories are cute and they're not. But anything else, anything else, it's just straight football. And it's literally when a when a player does something wrong, it's, hey, this player did this thing and then they never talk about him again.
01:42:38
Speaker
Nobody talks about... ah I can't think of his name right now, but the NFL player from Alabama who played for... Jerry Judy, maybe... No, it's not him. Don't want get that wrong. The NFL player who played for the Raiders who killed that woman and her dog and went to jail or whatever. Nobody's talking about him.
01:42:56
Speaker
Nobody's talking... like Even... even The most that people have talked about a player's personal life is Deshaun Watson. this is sha watson they play And there are a lot of people at NFL media who don't even bring that up.
01:43:09
Speaker
And I'm not saying whether they should or shouldn't. But my point is, in the NFL and other sports, it's about the sport. If what you did off happens and it matters, they'll say he did blank and he's going to get suspended.
01:43:22
Speaker
And then they either won't talk to you about you again until you come back or that's it. It's not that like, you don't know anything about the, like nobody talked. Tom Brady literally married the top supermodel in the world. He is freaking Tom Brady. And she like doubled his salary and nobody talked about the fact that they got in. Nobody talked about his love life. Nobody talked about his kids. Nobody talked about anything.
01:43:42
Speaker
Nobody talks about Peyton even when that whole thing went viral where he kissed the son in the mouth and everybody's freaking out about that. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing talks about it. Yeah. Wes is married to fucking Sierra. Nobody talks about that. Nobody talks about that.
01:43:54
Speaker
There was two clips about the fact that um that ah what's his name got married and engaged to Normani. They don't talk about football players personal lives they just they don't it's only in basketball and that was lebron's point he created mind the game and he did these things because he's like i watch football watch baseball i watch these other sports and nobody talks about any of these things But then you come to basketball and that question it and and I saw maybe it was Gil.
01:44:19
Speaker
It was someone who said this is not the first time that Stephen A has had to get checked for talking about. They had to do it for talking about someone's father and how they raised their kids. They did it with Kyrie.
01:44:30
Speaker
It happened with LeBron and Bronny. It happened with LeVar Ball. It's happened multiple times where people's like, I have a dad. And I am a man. I'm a like, you are not going to sit here and talk about me and how I raise my kids.
01:44:42
Speaker
If you want to talk about them as a basketball player, that's fine. Talk about that. Talk about that. Nobody's fatherhood should ever be coming up. Nobody's personal. like And again, if there's personal life stuff that affects the court, if it affects it, then great. Fine. Who cares?
01:45:00
Speaker
But it's getting very like TMZ ish. It's getting very like it's getting weird to your point when it comes to the to the basketball places. I didn't think about that, but that's very, very true. Like it's it's very, very weird.
01:45:12
Speaker
And it's like, why does any of this? matter because again the season is closing out we need to be talking about steph curry and how it looks like he's not slowing down anytime soon we need to talk about is kd going to win another championship before retirement is what is inevitably down the line or is he going try to play for 20 years like lebron like we over here talking about who's going to be the next face of the nba shut up shut up that is not a real conversation
01:45:41
Speaker
So, yeah. and
Stephen A. Smith's Media Persona
01:45:43
Speaker
i And for Stephen A to act like a victim, because he's also done this too, and this is why i'm I'm over it. Anytime he actually does get called out, then he goes on a victim tour for three days after that. yeah he's over there on Fox and wherever hell talking about LeBron. He over here acting like he was just like, oh my God, like he just walked up to me and I just had no idea why, like what is going on?
01:46:03
Speaker
You know what's going on. And he did that so with Monica McNutt too, trying to act like he made her because she called him out on the show and she said, Stephen A, you don't talk about women's sports. I don't. You don't.
01:46:15
Speaker
You act like this show is not streamable. We can go back and check the notes. You don't. And he was then like on his podcast talking about her trying make it seem like he made her. Like, first of all, you'd be wrong.
01:46:27
Speaker
And people should get a review out without you sitting Because, again, this is an opinion-based show. You're not speaking from a factual place most of the time. So, yes, there's going to times where your opinion is going wrong or someone's not going to like it. And they have every right tell you that. And you claim that you want that treatment. So, here you go. The rule he got rid of Max Kellerman because Max Kellerman called him out too many times.
01:46:48
Speaker
I heard about that too Max would not be playing with him as soon as Stephen A started going off the deep end and he started talking about stuff that wasn't factual Max would be like well actually 81% of gudadada da oh yeah oh yeah he had them notes ready he was not playing with Stephen A he used to come with receipts So, and i long story short. go For two hours with this.
01:47:10
Speaker
No, we're going to end it. It's longer than we haven't been here in three weeks that we find. Long story short, Stephen A is insane. Basketball media needs to be fixed. And the last, the other thing with that is just...
01:47:22
Speaker
you should be able to look less yes love that for lebron finally and i hope other players do it too uh and and the last thing is just just be mindful of what you say right and and if there are legitimate consequences to your actions accept them and if you don't want the consequences then don't say it right like like no we are not we are not too sensitive because you can't call people the n-word and you can't say trans trans jokes and you can't say all of these things But you should be able to be checked if you call someone anywhere. You should be able to be checked if you go on a rant about somebody's wife and and talk about the disease that happened. You should be able to be checked if you question somebody's fatherhood.
01:48:04
Speaker
If you are wrong and you are questioning someone, they have the right to handle it however they want to. And honestly, because LeBron is LeBron and because he's 6'9 and because of all these things, he just went and talked to him because he also would have been right to smack the shit out of him.
01:48:19
Speaker
personally and he didn't and you should be happy that he didn't steven a but just more of the story just keep people's name just keep people and their family's name out your mouth if you're not willing to accept whatever consequences come with that and that's it really that's it just be a fucking good person bro like what you talking about it's not that hard Or just be normal. Like, don't like, why are you got to be weird? Like, be freaking normal. If you want to talk about Bronny, talk about him. No one's saying not to talk about Bronny.
01:48:46
Speaker
It's just, you don't got to bring all this extra sauce into it. You can just say whatever it is that you need to say about it Because the other thing about it too is, at this point, what you need to be doing is eating your words because um that young man is dropping 39 points in the game. listen So what you need to be doing is running big back and saying, okay, this is what I thought of Bronny at the beginning of the season. This is what I think of Bronny now.
01:49:05
Speaker
This is this. and If you're going to have the conversation, because that's the thing is that you're doing it in a way that's really, really weird and disgusting because you think you're untouchable and you're not. You're not untouchable. And that's the problem. That's why you can sit on here and say, well, I'm still going to be here when you retire and blah, blah, blah. Not if you alienate your entire fan base because you've pissed off every- Not everybody thinks you're weird. Yeah. Yeah.
01:49:25
Speaker
And last thing that, like, I keep saying this, but it just, for you what you just said just brought me something. You know who else LeBron made jokes about? And this was actual jokes. This wasn't a problem. He made jokes about Brian Winhart, Brian Winhorst talking about like that guy says things that I'm his best. I love him. Do you know what Brian said?
01:49:42
Speaker
He said, don't have nothing. Cause everyone tried to make it like, he was this and Brian, was this and Brian and he was just cracking jokes. And you know, like Brian said, LeBron owes me nothing. I owe him a lot in my career.
01:49:54
Speaker
I've known him for 25 years and I've always understood where we stood. Period. The end. But as a member of the media, I have to have the conversations that I have to have. And it is what it is. Cause that's the other thing too. Like, Oh shit. That just brought up something we said.
01:50:08
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Um,
01:50:12
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Like, it was just like back in the day when when inside the NBA was like, I mean, it still is very popular, but the players used to call out call them out all the time and say, oh, I heard what Chuck said on this, or I heard what Shaq said, and this and this this. Players call out people in the media all the time. This is not like a new phenomenon that LeBron is...
01:50:31
Speaker
mentioning people in the media like this is not a new thing the guys hear what is being said about them and if they want to sound off on it they're going to sound off on it you sat at that desk and just was not ready for LeBron to really be about it and go to your fucking face and tell you how he felt it because he hasn't done it in 22 years and so you thought you was cool You thought that you could just keep dragging his name through the mud because one y'a is starting to ah but hopefully what y'all are starting to see is LeBron is letting y'all know like he's not the one or the two and he never was. He was just trying to play the basketball.
01:51:02
Speaker
But now, I mean... Come on. The only thing that make this any sweeter for him at this point is that he wins a lot one more championship. He goes on and plays 23 years, whatever the case is. He's going to retire and have the hugest retirement tour. He is the best basketball player we've seen since MJ.
01:51:19
Speaker
Period. The end. I don't care. I will not be taking any further questions. He is. So, like, now is his time to be like, it' y'all not going to keep fucking with me.
01:51:31
Speaker
And since you want me to roll up, I'm rolling up. Hey, what you saying? What was it? Stand on. If he would have swung on me, shut up. but but but he't have that he didn't have that energy in person. He was standing there looking real meek. Yeah, yeah he was real meek until he got behind that camera. Get your five-nine ass out of here, please.
01:51:53
Speaker
The funny thing is he's not 5'9". He's actually tall as shit. Stephen A? Yeah, he's like 6'4". Ain't no way. Yeah, he is. He's he's real tall. yeah he's Ain't no way. steve like because he actually like he wasn't a good basketball player. but he You've never seen him stand? He looks like a basketball player. He's like He's six one He's 6'1".
01:52:12
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his like arms are His arms are long as shit. That's getting But he has the energy of a short man, so maybe that's the problem. buts Okay, it's time to get off the show. if we were Anyways, as always.
01:52:25
Speaker
Thank you for listening. sorry that we were gone for so long but we had you know birthday travels and all of these things they only missed one week we only missed one week did we i said other guys has missed like three we because that's right because were keeping it consistent yeah we are we cool but yeah and i you guys we'll be giving you guys another round of of our sec games i believe is the next episode so we'll be talking about sec next week yeah thanks for listening see you next week