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Winter Is Coming Review + Unmatched 2 LIVE Unboxing
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We give our review and recap of Winter Is Coming just minutes after it went off the air AND open up and review AEW Unmatched 2, giving them the classic How Many Chicks treatment. Plus, Seth goes for 4 straight in the trivia challenge!
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Transcript
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome
Episode Introduction
00:00:01
Speaker
to the Chick Foley Show.
00:00:22
Speaker
What is up holy fan? We are here with episode 156 of the chick Foley show.
Event and Figure Review Setup
00:00:29
Speaker
AEW dynamite winter is coming 2021 just wrapped up about two minutes ago and we want to bring you guys the freshest live review possible. It's one of the last big shows of 2021 and we're ready to get into it. Plus we're going to have a live review of AEW unmatched series two right here on the air tonight. But before we get into any of that, let me introduce the stars of the show. Sheena, how you doing?
00:00:51
Speaker
I'm good. Uh, you know, this is, this is past my bedtime already 10 PM. Seth was getting on to me for yawn and I'm going to, I'm going to bring it though. I'm about to crack open a, uh, a beverage and, uh, I'm ready to talk about winter is coming. Hell yeah. Marco, how is life up in Massachusetts? Marco.
00:01:14
Speaker
Yeah, can you hear me? All right, good. There we are. I'm back. He was frozen. The night came came through. I was yawning, so I didn't want to get that on the air. But yeah, no, doing good over here. Just counting down the days of Christmas, so it's around the corner.
00:01:37
Speaker
I know, it's pretty crazy, dude. We got family coming in, so it's all gonna be super quick. This next week is gonna fly by, so yeah, it's exciting.
00:01:46
Speaker
Before
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00:02:11
Speaker
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00:02:37
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. Let's get into it. Winter
Unexpected Championship Match
00:02:40
Speaker
is coming. Just wrapped up. It was a hell of a show. Sheena, we'll start with you. How would you say it compared to last year's show?
00:02:48
Speaker
I mean, I don't know. I mean, they definitely threw us a swerve by like, you know, starting the show off with the championship match right off the bat, which still, I don't understand. You know, I was thinking like, Oh man, this must mean something crazy is going to happen. And we did see a, you know, a 60 minute time limit draw match it, but to me, that was just kind of lame, dude. You know, I was expecting it to be like the end of the show, like this awesome match. And.
00:03:15
Speaker
Personally, you know, for me, I know Seth probably doesn't share the same sentiment. If I'm going to watch you guys wrestle for 60 minutes, I want a definitive ending. I want something to happen, you know, and to have a time limit draw is just kind of like it was just kind of a letdown, you know, and I thought the match was fine. The match was great. There were some amazing spots. The fact that those two guys can even go for
00:03:32
Speaker
60 minutes is impressive in and of itself, but yeah, it was a little bit of a let down for the build. To me, I'm a fan of a time limit draw off that feels earned. And this one definitely felt earned. They weren't just stalling for time and they didn't have a cheap finish. It literally felt like
00:03:49
Speaker
These guys went for 60 minutes neither one of them could get the get the pin or the tap out on the other was action packed all the way through, and it went back and forth so I had no issue with it. I thought it was a really great match compared to last year though I would say winter is coming was a little bit of a let down this is probably like their most hyped.
00:04:07
Speaker
dynamite episode. And last year we saw the title change with Kenny Omega stealing the belt from Mox. And then we saw the big debut of Sting. And I'm kind of with Yushi. When I saw Hangman and Brian Danielson going first, I assumed that there was going to be some sort of big angle at the end, like maybe a Bray Wyatt, maybe a Johnny Gargano.
00:04:29
Speaker
Somebody coming in making their AWW debut and then we even had to tease with the lights going out there Yeah, and they literally rolled it back to the same old same old. They brought sting out Yeah, I'm never gonna be like not be excited to see sting But yeah, it was definitely a little bit of a letdown from last year Marco. What'd
Show Critique and Pacing
00:04:43
Speaker
you think of the show? Yeah, same hair It kind of you know started off with a bang and then you know
00:04:50
Speaker
Peter off towards the end of it. You can definitely see that when they went the 60-minute limit, they took a whole hour of the show away, so you know the rest of the mattress are going to go fast, essentially. Wasn't a big fan of MJF closing the show.
00:05:11
Speaker
I mean, I know he's like one of the pillars there. He's one of the main stars. He's one of the young talent. We always talk about, you know, about their homegrown talent, but I don't, you know, I think I matched that caliber with Brian Danielson and Adam Hangman.
00:05:28
Speaker
should be the last of the show like it felt like they felt like they use that to just i mean in the match was fine i mean don't a martin had some freaking crazy spots in that match i mean it was fine but it definitely wasn't a show closer for a for a specialized pay-per-view in a cell felt like they just put that on so they could set up that six man tag between.
00:05:51
Speaker
MJF and FTR and CM Punk and, you know, Darby and, and Stane. I'm like, well, I mean, that's cool at all. Like, I mean, I'm, you know, I'll, I'll be excited for that match, but that wasn't anything that I'm like going home like, Oh wow, this is amazing. You know, I can't wait to see this next Friday. You know, the crowd was definitely spent too. There was almost no reaction to Dante Martin when he came out.
00:06:12
Speaker
There was none. Yeah, that's what I told Seth. I was like, the reaction for Dante was pretty mild, you know? And I mean, he's been pretty over for the most part. But yeah, it was like everybody was just kind of like, all right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The live audience was definitely a little bit spent. Some other stuff I noticed, like, what, Shane, you're our resident fashion expert on here. You definitely got the most drip out of any wrestling fan out there. What is up with Sean Spears rocking the suit with no shirt or tie? What's the deal? You can defend that.
00:06:40
Speaker
I think he, I think he sees how well that the, the low super low V-necks work for Peyton getting over. And I think maybe he thinks in his mind, if he wears a super low V-neck that it might get him over. Um, I don't know that was, that look was awful. The, it was the beanie. Yeah. With the, with the suit jacket with no shirt with, it was just, it was a mess. And then he's hauling that chair around like some sort of, you know, animal.
00:07:06
Speaker
I was really hoping Wardlow was just going to take him out, man. Sean Spears is moving up to my list of most annoying wrestlers. Marco, aside from Hangman and Bryan Danison, what other matches kind of caught your eye? Definitely Sarita Deeb.
00:07:21
Speaker
That match was really awesome. Like I said, the main event was really good. Like you said, it was just pretty much spent after that first hour of the show. I think it kind of took away, it would have been a great opening match. Yeah, I think so too. Just because of the spots that happened throughout that main event.
00:07:44
Speaker
Besides that, like I said, the Wardlow match was kind of a throw away. But other than that, the matches were decent. It's just the pacing wasn't there.
Storytelling and Future Predictions
00:07:54
Speaker
It just didn't see, even with the diamond ring, to me, the matches just didn't live up to something that you would put on for your winter is coming themed pay-per-view.
00:08:07
Speaker
You know what I mean? You feel like every match that would come on would have like major stakes, right? Like I would, you would make them super meaningful. Um, and I felt like, you know, the deep and the Wardlow match were just kind of like, just throw, yeah, just thrown in there, you know, space, space savers, you know? Yeah. And I don't see the, uh, I don't see that ring as like a title or anything like a prize possession. It's I forget it's there until they just go out of their way to mention it. It means nothing to me, seriously.
00:08:34
Speaker
So for Brian Davis and Hangman Page, is that a match of the year candidate? What do you think, Mark? I heard a couple people kind of floating that out in the live thread in the Facebook group. I think so. I said this in the group. I was like, the common denominator for
00:08:51
Speaker
Kenny Omega and Hangman's, you know, their best matches this year is Brian Danielson. He's definitely proven his worth since he signed to that company. We go just literally out wrestling it. Everybody, they're like wrestling circles around people. I know, obviously, we know that Seth isn't a huge fan of
00:09:14
Speaker
I mean, if this match didn't do anything for you, like, I don't know what this guy can do. I can respect the enemy work, especially the match with Omega. I actually prefer the match with Omega a little bit more because it seemed like they were just trading big move after big move. But yeah, yeah, I agree. Daniel. Excuse me. Brian Danison is definitely earning his paycheck. You know, him, Adam Cole.
00:09:32
Speaker
And CM Punk all came in around the same time. And it seems like the American Dragon is just lapping the field with those guys as far as the impact in AW, which it says more about Brian Danison than the other two, because Adam Cole and CM Punk are both doing interesting, cool things. But he's just been killing it in the ring, man. Even his matches he's been having with the Dark Order guys on the web here have all been entertaining. I have a question for you guys.
00:09:57
Speaker
Brian Danielson natural natural hail not so much a natural bait like I mean maybe cuz it's AW and you know people are kind of like booing him now that maybe he is a hail now but like he seems like he
00:10:10
Speaker
can naturally be, to me anyway, like, I mean, he is likable, but then he can be very unlikable to people. Oh yeah. The Daniel Bryan is a natural heel because Daniel Bryan at his core, he is hardcore counterculture. You know what I mean? Like he, everything about him, even in his real life, like he is, you know, was vegan. He's like super environmentalist. Like he's like the thing, he's like the 1% of like people that kind of feel like,
00:10:37
Speaker
That right. So I think that just kind of rose people the wrong way because he's not a normie, you know, and he's a natural heel and like that was one of the best things that he did in WWE for me was when he became the planets champion. Yeah, just like healing off on everybody. And he felt like he was righteous, you know, he felt like he had the upper hand and the moral high ground.
00:10:57
Speaker
but he was like this hardcore, hateable heel. So yeah, I think just naturally he's a heel just because of the way he is and the way he lives and that he's a small guy and the way he wrestles and all of the things. So yeah, I think even when he's a babyface, he's kind of a heel. I was thinking too, like, I think it was going to naturally happen there in AEW. Like, I think, you know, him coming in and everyone chairing himself like that. I think over time, people were just going to start booing him for some reason.
00:11:25
Speaker
for me, like, I could just see it just like, just that the fan base there would have kind of got tired of and stuff like that. So I think they kind of, I think they capitalize on it earlier than, than when it was, instead of letting it happen organically, which it kind of did happen organically, but I think they kind of, you know, navigated it.
00:11:43
Speaker
in a way where he became a heel as opposed to him coming out one week and people just booing him for no reason. I think they're trying to avoid that because look at what's happened with our favorite wrestler of AEW, Cody Rhodes. He's getting booed left and right when he walks out now.
AEW's Move to TBS
00:12:00
Speaker
The fact that you compared Cody to Daniel Bryan, we're just going to go ahead and end the conversation right there. That was definitely the best part of Winter is Coming is that there was no Cody this week. Yeah, no Cody Rhodes this week. Yeah, big props for that. Another thing I've noticed really the last couple weeks, they're really ramping up the ads for TBS. Dynamite's moving over to TBS on January 5th.
00:12:22
Speaker
TBS is definitely the less prestigious channel out of the Turner networks there with TNT and TBS, but it is in more homes across America. Do you think AEW is going to lose any of its momentum when it switches over to TBS in 2022?
00:12:37
Speaker
I don't think so. I think, I mean, AEW has a really hardcore fan base and I think they're going to follow them wherever they go. You know, I don't think it's going to be an issue at all. I mean, maybe the casual viewer, but I mean, like you said, they've done a good enough job with promoting it and letting people know where they're going. Um, and you know, with their social media and all their outreach, they're going to let people know that like, Hey, we're on CBS now. So.
00:12:56
Speaker
I feel like they may actually get more casual viewers on TBS. TBS is always airing like Big Bang Theory and Seinfeld reruns and stuff. All the syndicated shows. Yeah, so I can see people just kind of tuning in and then sticking around, whereas TNT's got the dramas and movies. TNT, we know drama. That's kind of the thing.
00:13:13
Speaker
Yeah, I'm interested to see how it goes. TNT is definitely the more prestigious, though. You know, that's where they put their more big budget productions out. I never really saw a definitive explanation for the move to TBS. But the one thing I'll say in the defense of that move is TBS has a rich history of professional wrestling. That's what I remember watching growing up is, you know, WCW Saturday night, 635 on TBS. What do you think, Marco? Will it have any effect moving over to TBS in 2022?
00:13:40
Speaker
Um, I mean, if any, maybe the beginning of it, um, when it, when it first moves, like, you know, obviously people trying to find out what, you know, channel their TBS is if they're not watching TBS. Um, yeah, I would have to look, I don't even know. I would have to look at it. Yeah. So I think, I think that might slow things down a bit, but I don't think it's going to be like, you know, it's going to be like months or like six months into the year. And you know, they're, they're doing horrible over there. I think it's going to be like maybe like a month or so just said, you know, everyone get their transitional period.
00:14:08
Speaker
Yeah. I think Tony Khan said it might be a different presentation from what it looks like on TNT. If I'm not mistaken, I think he mentioned that when they first announced it. I'm not sure if the set design is going to be different, but I think they're going to move away from what it looked like on TNT.
00:14:29
Speaker
and kind of change it on TBS. If I'm not mistaken, I think he did say that at one of the... I mean, I can see that, you know, they're getting a fresh start, but I hope they don't change it too much. I love the way AEW looks. I was actually talking to Seth tonight and saying, like, how AEW just looks a little bit gritty. You know, there's always, like, the smoky air and, you know, the camera is a little bit more gritty. The camera angles are a little bit less polished. I just love the look and feel of AEW. So I hope they don't change it too much.
Event Grading and Expectations
00:14:57
Speaker
All right, let's put a bow on this. Let's go around. We'll do letter grades for this one. What letter grade are we giving? Winter is coming 2021. Sheena, you can go first. I'm going to give it a... I'm going to give it a B minus.
00:15:14
Speaker
Daniel Bryan match or Bryan Danielson match in hangman that I think that really saved, saved the show. Even though I wasn't a fan of the time limit draw again, I was impressed with the match as a whole. Um, but other than that, yeah, it just kind of fell off after that. So the other matches kind of brought down the average, but, uh, yeah, B minus. All right, Marco.
00:15:32
Speaker
man i don't i don't i mean i'm gonna go with uh i'm gonna go with the c for this the the show i mean even the i mean even that match couldn't for me couldn't save it the whole show because the rest of the show was
00:15:47
Speaker
Uh, like poop. So I don't think so here. So the thing, let me just jump in real quick. I know we're putting a bow on this thing, but I don't think the show was so bad. I think the fact that they built it up and this was like the last show of 2020 and it is a themed paper. Sorry, 2021. Yeah. 12 months behind. Um, it's a, I think the, they over delivered an under promised because if this had been just a rake, vice versa, I think.
00:16:14
Speaker
over-promised and under-delivered. I told you it was past my bedtime. They over-promised and under-delivered. If this had been just a regular episode of Dynamite, I don't think we would have been, be so critical, but I was like, oh my gosh, winter's coming, you know, super cool. It was so good last year. Yeah. They had, they set a really high bar for themselves. Yeah, so I think it just kind of, it just kind of let us down just a smidge.
00:16:34
Speaker
Yeah, we should have known to lower the expectations a little bit when it was being held in Garland, Texas. No offense to the fans in Garland, but it's a B-town, if I ever heard one. Marco, what's your all-time favorite match that took place in Garland, Texas? Oh, man. The one where...
00:16:52
Speaker
those two guys went at it. It's gotta be, no, it's gotta be Hey man versus, uh, Oh yeah. True. I, uh, I'm making it a B I say, yeah, I kind of agree with you guys. There was nothing bad on here. I was entertained by everything else, but this was the very definition of, of a one match show. Uh, let's do a little bonus question. So.
00:17:12
Speaker
This was Hangman's first big defense. He didn't win, but he survived. He kept Daniel and Brian from taking that belt from him. Brian Danielson. I don't know how many. We need to start getting a tip jar every time we do that. Let's pose a quick prediction. Who is going to be the person to take the belt off of Hangman? Marco, you can go first. I'm going to go Adam Cole. OK. A little Adam on Adam crime? Yeah.
00:17:46
Speaker
This is tough, dude. I think it could be Daniel Bryan down the line, dude. Bryan Danielson. I think it could be Bryan Danielson down the line. I'm gonna go with Bryan Danielson. I think even though he didn't, you know, nobody came out on top of this, I think eventually that he's gonna take it off of him.
00:18:03
Speaker
If he can beat him in an hour, I don't see it happening to me. Well, I mean, a hangman couldn't beat him in an hour either. True, but he's the champ. He doesn't have to beat him. The challenger's got to win. I think the most compelling option would be a heel with Jon Moxley. I see Moxley coming back, turning heel. I thought about Mox, but I didn't know his situation. Yeah. I see Mox coming back, turning heel, and becoming the first ever
00:18:24
Speaker
two time AEW champion. Yeah, that'd be that'd be my job. All right. So we got three good choices. Mox, Adam Cole, Brian Danielson. We'll see if any of us are right.
Casual Discussion and Promotions
00:18:33
Speaker
And let's drink to that.
00:18:49
Speaker
I am drinking everybody's favorite beverage of mine. It is the Flying Embers kombucha. Still haven't had any feedback from any of you guys out there that have tried the kombucha. Kombucha's not gonna happen. Stop trying to make the kombucha. I know, and I feel like my other audience, my shoot audience, not my kayfabe audience, I feel like they would really be into this, but you guys are letting me down.
00:19:10
Speaker
It's good. It's good for the gut. This is the pineapple chili with a hint of ginger. So it's like sweet, but it's got some like heat on the back of your tongue. Freaking delicious dude. And I'm really, really sad because I think this is the last one that we have in the refrigerator and it was a, it was an LTO. So it's, it's gone for the foreseeable future. So it wasn't an LTO. I think they just discontinued that flavor because they were, you know, you guys know I'm a total wine connoisseur. And, uh,
00:19:37
Speaker
Total wine is in the store, not total wine. Yeah. So they had like the individual packs, right? I was able to find, I would just go there and like when Sheena needed a re-up on Kombucha, I would just pick like four or five of the individual, like I think they're four packs or six packs, but they had pineapple chili was one of them. And then I noticed one day that they had no pineapple chili.
00:20:01
Speaker
And I looked on like the app and it wasn't listed on the app anymore. Right. You can find like if you search for just wasn't there and then on their website, there was no more longer a listing for it. So like to my knowledge, the only way these are still available is they put out some variety packs where two of the twelve are pineapple chili. So I snapped up the last one. They had our local total line for Sheena. But if you're a fan of this flavor, get it where you can find it because it looks like it is going to be no more. Yeah. Marco, what are you drinking, ma'am?
00:20:28
Speaker
I am taking it easy, taking it light. I'm going with the dirty work logger that I said a couple of weeks ago on the show, RIP, Norm McDonald. It's 5.8 alcohols. I was going to go with the broken skull, but a little too heavy. That could definitely give you a buzz. Yeah, it's a late night recording session. We got to pace ourselves.
00:20:56
Speaker
So I'm drinking a local beer right here out of Norfolk. This is by Smart Mouth Brewery. It's the Rip Pants Pineapple Go's. They have like a Nick Tunes inspired series where they have, you know, like artful reinterpretations and Nick Tunes characters and flavors inspired by them. So yeah, it's just a pineapple goes from Smart Mouth.
00:21:13
Speaker
Really good, and we're big fans of everything they're doing. Yeah, it's good. We're both drinking pineapple drinks. Yeah, there you go. His and her pineapple brews. Yeah, if you find yourself here in Virginia and need a place to go hang out, Smart Mouth Brewery has a beautiful setup and a great place to knock back some cold ones.
AEW Unmatched Series 2 Overview
00:21:28
Speaker
So before we get into this figure review, again, we want to remind you guys to use Code Chick Foley to save 10% on all your purchases at Ringside Collectibles. And now just in today, we have AEW Unmatched Series 2.
00:21:40
Speaker
So we're going to go through with a traditional chick Foley, how many chicks review on these figures. Marco, did you preorder any of unmatched series two?
00:21:51
Speaker
I actually, yeah, I got mine yesterday. Nice. With the whole set, so. Okay, sweet. So we can go do this together. So everybody's got them in hand. Let's start with MJF. I think he's probably the most boring figure in this set. Yeah. She and you can kick it off. What's your thoughts on MJF? So I really like the trench. The figure is fine, but it's nothing, you know, nothing out of the ordinary for many of the other MJF figures that we've gotten so far. He doesn't come with his ring or anything. No, he does. There's some alternate, all the alternate pieces around there. Oh, okay, so cool. He's got alternate hands with the ring.
00:22:20
Speaker
Oh, awesome. Okay. So he does have the ring. My bad. Um, and he's got the, you know, his little, like, I don't know what you call duster and it says better than you got the, got the Burberry. Yeah. More of a robe, I guess. And it's got the, the Burberry lining. It's okay. I like the accessory. I like the, the duster robe, whatever you want to call it, but the figure itself, uh, if you already have an MJF figure, it's not going to like, wow you or anything, you know, Marco, anything to add on a MJF? Um, no, not really. I mean, I thought.
00:22:48
Speaker
a big fan of the head scan on this one. I think the unmatched
00:22:55
Speaker
Series one. He looks a little bit, yeah, he looks a little more, um, series two, I think, I think series two. Yeah. He looks a little more snaring in the series one. Yeah. He looks a little bit too happy in this, in this head scan. Yeah. I agree. Marco. I think this, this series two is still his best figure. I plan to just take the robe off of this one and throw it in with series two and kind of just upgrade that figure with an additional accessory. And this guy probably heading to the, uh, the dreaded sail bin for the, uh,
00:23:24
Speaker
One thing we need to discuss, man, I've heard a few people kind of mentioning this, um, on some of the, the wrestle figs forums. What is the deal with the lack of soft goods in the AEW line? Like, you know, mocks had a t-shirt with his chase figure. Cody's gotten a couple of t-shirts and there's a Jericho t-shirt with the, uh, the bubbly.
00:23:44
Speaker
Think about it. There have been hardly no soft goods in this this line. I mean, we're between unrivaled and unmatched. We're about nine sets in. And it's really kind of crazy to think about, you know, I think about how that road probably could have looked as a soft good. So just the big rubber Polly Pocket style. Yeah. But even you have been on record as saying, like sometimes accessories are better as the the molded plastic. It's a rubber, you know, style jacket or something like that. But yes, definitely this thing on MJF.
00:24:11
Speaker
definitely would have could have been soft goods and would have been much better. Yeah, I usually like take it to like if it's like a robe, it should be soft goods. And if it's like something leathery, like something, it should be, you know, the mold, but
00:24:25
Speaker
Yeah, I totally agree. This should have been a soft goods. And I think I opened up all the NJPW series two figures this weekend. And I was just spoiled like looking at the soft goods, man. Like one thing about like, yeah, they may, they take, you know, a year and a day to actually longer than a year and a day to get to you. But the soft goods are off the chain on those. And I thought if it's one thing that we could criticize on the, uh, the AWN is just the overall like a soft goods so far.
00:24:52
Speaker
Yep. Seth loves the soft goods. Uh, so let's go. So I'll start off for this MJF. I'm going to go with one man. I'm not, I'm not super impressed with this figure and the accessory, like it's good because it's better than anything else we've gotten so far, but it's really not that impressive either. So I'm going with a one for MJF for how many chicks? Yeah, I'm going to give it a, I'm going to give it a one and a half. I like the jacket, maybe a smidge more than you, but, uh, yeah, nothing, nothing to write home about, about this figure. Marco.
00:25:20
Speaker
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the one as well. Definitely not the salt of the earth with this figure and definitely not better than any other figure out there. So yeah. All right, let's we'll do this next one as a set. Let's do Santana and Ortiz. So this is the second version of these that we've got the other ones were
00:25:40
Speaker
in black and gold with heavy Puerto Rican flag accessories and stuff. This one, they still got the, Santana's got the glove and everything, which is cool, but these guys are more camo and orange. I'm a huge fan of these guys. I was actually like on the fence until we had them in hand, but I think I liked these more than the original set. Sheena, what's your thoughts on these?
00:26:01
Speaker
Yeah, I like these. Again, they're a little bit more toyetic. They have the additional like pink color, super bright. I'm always a fan of anything that kind of stands out because we get so many figures that are black and you know, like dark colors and you know, one color. These with the camo and then the orange and black camo accents are freaking they look awesome. And then
00:26:20
Speaker
Uh, Ortiz has the turquoise headband, which really pops. So big fan of these. I, I don't know. I like the head, maybe I like the head scans on the, the first set, but in, I like, but I like the actual accessories on or the, the, sorry, the ring gear on these. Yeah. I think, uh, I mean pretty much both, uh, both the sentiments, um,
00:26:42
Speaker
I mean, the head, the head scans aren't too bad. They're not bad. They're not bad. I just prefer. I love the, I love the fro that, um, or T or T's has in, uh, his other, um, series four. Yeah. Series four. Yeah. I mean, the good thing about like the AW figures is you get pretty much as.
00:26:59
Speaker
pop the head off and, you know, swap them out. But now I'm definitely on board with these figures. I definitely like these a lot better than their first figures. I mean, like you said, because of the gear, the gear definitely really pops. The color scheme's awesome on it, and I'm a big fan of these ones.
00:27:17
Speaker
So I'll kick it off. I think either one of these figures by themselves would be like a three and a half, but I'm going to go with a 4.2 seen them together as a set. These guys just pop. They look awesome and I can't wait to put them together as part of a inner circle display someday.
00:27:33
Speaker
Yeah, I'm gonna go with a four and a half. I agree all the things that you said I think they just they just pop they look good The colors are bright. The the paint apps are good. It looks really good. Yeah, the camera looks good. It looks very very nice Yeah, I love like the matte finish on it too. So yeah, I'm gonna go with a four and a half on these Marco I'm gonna do the same sentiment four and a half nothing nothing to add there you guys pretty much Yeah, you know summed it up. It's they just they're pretty amazing. I
00:27:59
Speaker
Alright Marco, we're gonna let you kick it off us next one. We're getting into the heavy hitters the first time in the lines Tell us what you think about Ward bow I do I do like it I like the different the different head scan that he has he has like the serious face Ward low and then he has like the the screaming one I Mean, I mean that's I mean just for a first-time figure I mean, it looks like they pretty much, you know got it got a down pad got his body size and stuff like that
00:28:29
Speaker
You don't have to worry about any hair. A hairless person like what do you call like Mero was that small detail, but I really like it. They scan Mero the one day that he got his chest waxed, I guess. Maybe that was the day that he came in for his scanning.
00:28:50
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, it's I don't want to I don't want to say it's a generic figure, but I mean, it is his first in line. So he does get a few more, a few points more than normal. But yeah, I mean, I like it. It's not nothing. It's nothing to write home about. But I mean,
00:29:07
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. I think everything you said, I like that it's the first time in line. I like that we finally got a Wardlow figure. It's much needed. The face skin looks great. It looks like him. He's just got boring ring gear. That's one thing. He's not super toyetic. He does feel a little bit generic, but that's how Wardlow is. I dig it.
00:29:34
Speaker
I you know I feel like most of the time I'm a little bit harsher judge of figures than you guys. I actually love this figure man I'm really really high on this figure I think it's a couple things one I have lowered expectations because some of the like the leaks in the early like prototypes we saw this this figure looked kind of weak I thought we were in for
00:29:53
Speaker
like Miro and Jake Hager part two, you know, AWS kind of struggled with some of the guys with that body style. But this figure is awesome. You know, we opened these up earlier tonight. This is one I found myself just kind of filling around with and playing with the most. I think it looks just like Wardlow. I think they really captured it. Like, yeah, it's not the most Toyota green gear, but it looks really good with the black and green.
00:30:13
Speaker
And I'm a big Wardlow fan. You know, I think this dude is, I think he's got potential to be like the diesel if MJF is HBK. You know what I mean? Once he, they're already teasing now. I think once he turns face, he's going to be huge. It's kind of a somber note, but if you go back and watch the Brody Lee tribute show from last year,
00:30:33
Speaker
and listen to Wardlow's remarks on that show you can tell he's super articulate and he's got a ton of just like quiet natural charisma and I think this dude is he's really destined to be a main eventer as a baby face down the line so I love this figure I you know it's very cool to have him in the line and first time in the line I give this one two thumbs up I'll go first I'm gonna say
00:30:54
Speaker
I'm going to give it a 4.4. The only reason it's not higher, he's got a cap on him just because, like Sheena mentioned, he's just not super toyetic. But I think this was a perfect execution for the first workload figure. So I'll say 4.4. Yeah, I'm going to go with the 4. I don't have as much positive sentiment as you do, but I do think it is a good figure. And again, first time in line, and I feel like they captured him, great. So I'm glad we finally have one. So yeah, I give it a 4.
00:31:21
Speaker
Marco. I'm going to give it a, you know, 3.7 for B. Okay. All right. So another, another win. All right. Sheena, we'll let you kick off the next one. Uh, this is a nice figure. Yeah. Ty Conti. Ty Conti.
Highlighting Ty Conti Figure
00:31:38
Speaker
Yeah. This, um, I'm going to go ahead and say it is AEW's best women's figure to date. I think, uh, retweet. Yeah. That little brand brand. Oh my God. Yeah.
00:31:51
Speaker
Way better than little brand brand. I'll give Brandi a little bit of a pass because she was in the first series. She was series one and they were still figuring out all the things and getting kind of the kinks worked out and she looked a little generic. She kind of just looked like a Bratz doll, shrunk down, just kind of had the... You know what Bratz dolls are? Yeah, she just looked very... The proportions were a little off.
00:32:16
Speaker
Yeah. Like Barbie. Hey guys. Yeah. Big eyes, bubble head. Yeah. Super skinny body. Yeah. It was, um, you know, again, that's a, that's a good figure. I'm glad we have it. Uh, but yeah, they actually, they've really like dialed in what they're doing here because she's got on the little, um, the choker. It's got the detailing where it says Ty Conti on it. Her ring gear looks great. She's got the fishnet stockings, the metallic green gear.
00:32:43
Speaker
Um, unlike Mattel, they didn't just like sculpt, like they didn't just paint over some boob sculpts, you know, and just like, you know, make it look all crappy. Like they've actually got everything sculpted in and you know, the, the paint looks like it's actually on her, you know, it looks like gear, not just, you know, paint app. So, um, I love this figure. I, oh, I'm not, we're not giving scores yet, but yeah, I dig it. It's way, it's way better than Nyla Rose's figure for damn show.
00:33:13
Speaker
It's definitely in the mix for best female figure of the year. The face sculpt looks great. Both of them do. The gear looks awesome. The thing that just really captures me is that something that Mattel still struggles with 12 years deep is the metallic paint job, man. That metallic green, it just pops. It's muddy. This is one of the two figures that we didn't open up yet. And it looks so beautiful on card with the silver backing.
00:33:38
Speaker
And the green foil like this would look great autographed if you're into that thing shout out to Scott and Jeff with fully posable podcast But yeah, this is a great figure. I really don't have anything negative at all to say about it Marco Yeah for definitely for a first time in line
00:33:55
Speaker
AEW figure. I'm going to share the same sentiments as Sheena. That's definitely the best women's figure out right now. I know a lot of people are being weird out there and saying the figure is very in proportionate to how she looks, which it is accurate. They did their job. What were they saying? I didn't hear the Ty Conti drama. No, it's not drama.
00:34:24
Speaker
Guys being guys say figure drama. Yeah, were they saying like her butt was not big enough No, no what they're saying. It was it was like they say like the actual figures. That's perfect. Like it's like Okay, it's a miniature. It's kind of like the the Vandy Rose figure Okay
00:34:47
Speaker
No, yeah, it's good. They nailed, they nailed her body type as a woman. I feel like I can confidently say like they, I'm looking at her photo right here on the side and we know like, yeah, she looks spot on. All right, Marco, you can lead us off. How many chicks? Uh, with this one, since it, it, it definitely is the best, uh, women's figure that they've put out so far. I'm going to go, I'm going to go five on this one here. You guys hit it out of the park with the, you know, the metallic paint. Um, we thought only, uh, you know, the,
00:35:17
Speaker
the what do you call it the the lucha bros figures. Yeah, we're, we're the only ones that we're gonna have that type of like, you know, pain app, but I mean, a W show or or jazz or a show that they can they can pull it off too. So just a head scopes, just a figure itself, like everything about I think, you know, Sheena you
00:35:38
Speaker
kind of, you know, knocked it out of the park with like just a detailing on everything. Like the whole gear doesn't look like anything's painted on. And if it is painted on, it's supposed to be there. Cause obviously it's a figure. Exactly. Like her whole body is like molded to her. They didn't just throw her on a generic molded body. They didn't just try to paint her gear.
00:35:56
Speaker
over whatever women's body scan that they had. Exactly. So yeah, I'm going to agree with you Marco. I'm going to give it a five. I just can't get over like the little, the little detailing on the, the neck choker that says her name on it. Cause they could have easily just gotten away with doing a black neck choker, you know, with no, with no detailing, but they've got the silver paint with her name on it. Um, you know, the additional little bow on the knee cap. So yeah, I'm going to give it a five.
00:36:24
Speaker
I'm going to go 4.8. I think it's a perfect figure, but you got to be a main event player to get a five. It makes sense. I take off a couple of points just because Ty Conti, she's really talented, but I think she's still definitely a mid Carter at this point. So 4.8 for me, but flawless figure. And I got to give it some time to digest. I don't want to have any recency bias, but it's definitely right there in the mix as a very strong contender for female
00:36:52
Speaker
figure of the year.
Sting Figure Discussion and Comparison
00:36:55
Speaker
And now it's time for the main event. It's Sting, the first ever Sting figure in the AEW line, series two, unmatched, the Stinger. Sheena, what's your thoughts?
00:37:09
Speaker
I was going to let you kick this off since you're such a huge Sting fan. I wanted you to do a little comparison. I didn't want to start on a sour note. This is a great figure, right? Oh, no. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. Listen, he waited till the finale. He did the winter is coming thing. He got all built up and now he's going to... This is more of a timing thing, right? We haven't opened this up yet, right? I'm going to take the jacket off and really check it out.
00:37:33
Speaker
The figure looks amazing. OK, head sculpt looks awesome. It looks just like what sting, you know, looks like Sting walked out of your TV and into into this toy box. The bat looks good, right? It's not suffering from the issue that a lot of the Mattel bats had where it looked like they needed a blue chew. OK, that looks nice and stiff, just like you like it. The coat looks good. Soft goods would have been better, but the color is good. This figure is
00:38:00
Speaker
It might be perfect, right? This might be the perfect figure, but, but, but, but, but, but there is another sting, the Walmart exclusive that's releasing here in a couple of weeks. I got my email today saying it should be delivered by December 21st. That's got the half crow, half Darby Allen face paint that I think is going to be so much more made. So it's kind of just, it's taken my excitement down a little bit for this one.
00:38:25
Speaker
You know, I'll go and get my rating. I mean, I'll give it a 4.9, but the only reason it's not a five is just because there's a better figure that's right around the corner. But I'm very excited for where they go with this. The first two stings that we've seen from them are straight up grand slam home runs. I'm hoping that, um, AEW just keeps this luminaries line going and we get some surface things like some flashbacks, you know, because that was one thing. I think Mattel did a great job, um, capturing the crow and the wolf pack and stuff, but I think they could have went a little bit harder.
00:38:54
Speaker
on the surfer stings. One more note before I pass it to Sheena. I love the luminaries packaging with the blue foil around the top like this, this pops. I love the AW packaging, how they kept it pretty much uniform throughout the line. It looks really, really good. And I'm already excited to get the Chris Jericho luminaries in unmet series four.
00:39:15
Speaker
She didn't take it away. Yeah. So I don't have anything to add as far as like the look of the figure, like you nailed it. It looks great. Um, what I will say though, is you mentioned the Walmart one coming out. That's got the Darby face paint, which is awesome. Right? Like it's going to be an incredible figure, but I do think you need a, like a, um,
00:39:34
Speaker
I don't want to say generic. What's the word, the word I'm looking for? Like you just need like a standard, a standard. Yeah. You need the standard AEW stink. Cause he's not always going to be on Darby side. You know what I mean? We've seen with wrestling, like these things always come to an end. You know what I mean? Like this is going to be a moment in time that they captured with that figure when he was partnering with Darby and kind of taking Darby under his wing, but you need that, that standard. Yeah. That one right there is evergreen.
00:39:57
Speaker
Yeah. Evergreen is a great word. Yeah. This one is an evergreen AEW. And this really captures a moment, um, for him coming to, uh, him coming during winter to, uh, wow. Marco, would you thoughts? Yeah. Marco, you there.
00:40:21
Speaker
Yeah, nothing to add on my end. I got the email as well saying it's going to be delivered, I think, next week, essentially. I kind of don't want to score it. I kind of want to wait until the other one shows up and do a comparison almost. But out of the gate, it's definitely, for me, a 4.5. Yeah. Like you said, the packaging itself is, you almost like,
00:40:50
Speaker
You don't want to open it, essentially. If anything, buy another one to keep MOC and then the other one open up. This would look awesome with a white paint pen. Get signed with a white paint pen across the front. That would look so sick.
00:41:08
Speaker
And you know me, I'm not even like an autograph gal, but yeah, I think that would be, that would be awesome. White would look cool. Blue would look cool to kind of play off the foil at the top. Yep. You can get gold because he's got a little gold accent. So yeah, this would be, this would be, AEW figures would just look awesome. Get an autograph. Cause they got such like the window right there.
00:41:27
Speaker
And the thing I love about AEW is they don't have all the extra BS. It's clean. Dude, Mattel always trying to cram some extra advertising or some extra pictures or something on the boxes, like extra logos and branding. The Ultimate Editions are the only ones that have like a... Yeah.
00:41:43
Speaker
Clean. Yeah. Clean. The legends look pretty good to you. The legends and the ultimate additions look good. But the regular elite lines. Yeah. They had, remember when they had the retros and they started putting those like a QR codes on the front of the retros, it was just a freaking mass or it was the supercard or whatever. Yeah.
00:41:58
Speaker
Anyway, I'm going to give it, I'm going to give it a 4.8. I think we've gotten this similar look, even though this is specific to AW, he's wearing that AW shirt. We've gotten this look for Sting in a Mattel figure before. So that's the only thing that knocks it down just a smidge for me, because it's really nothing new and innovative. But the fact that he is an AW packaging and wearing an AW shirt makes it special. So
00:42:24
Speaker
Yeah, 4.8 for me. Very cool figure. So it sounds like unmatched two is a huge hit for us. MJF was a little bit of a dud, but all the rest are home runs and really must ads for the collection. So again, use code chick Foley to save 10% on those. I think it's about time to wrap it up. We're going to remind you guys to check out the pod foundation and listen to our friends, the extra cooler and turnbuckle tavern. We gave you guys the brief brief, just like the fast food version of a breakdown of winter is coming.
00:42:52
Speaker
Tomorrow, right after you get done listening to us, download Turnbuckle Taverns, this episode, those guys will go segment by segment and give you the deep dive into all things AEW. And I think Sheena's got another trivia question lined up for us. I'm working on my Goldberg streak. Marco, I'm going for four straight, man. I don't know if you're going to be able to match this record. You know, if we went, I think for the first two months, we were doing a trivia question. Neither one of us could go back to back, but I'm going for number four. I know Sheena's got a humdinger lined up for the Foley fam.
00:43:18
Speaker
Stay tuned starting in January. We're gonna get some trivia nights going in the Facebook group. So that's gonna be a lot of fun Sheena hit me with your best shot. Okay Who did the fabulous Rouge O's face at WrestleMania 5? Jeez, who did the fabulous Rouge O's face at WrestleMania 5? I'm gonna say strike force Who was it?
00:43:47
Speaker
The Bushwhackers. Oh my God. How was the Bushwhackers and the Rougeos on a WrestleMania? Sweet sauce. It's made of it. Yeah, it made of it anywhere in the world. I know. I thought I was going to throw you a stop while there was a 1995 question in there. I'll save it for another day, but I was like, you know what? That's a tough one. Yeah.
00:44:06
Speaker
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