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What an honour to have John Bush and Ryan Minniti of Live Free Academy on the show! We talked about the outstanding work they are doing and had a lot of fun while we were at it. Love the positivity and solution focus balanced with a firm grasp of the reality of this world and the challenges we face. They are great role models for many of us and truly inspiring in what they do and the message they spread.
About John, in case you've not heard of him yet:
John Bush is a radical activist, entrepreneur, and father of two based in Austin, TX.
Since 2002 he has worked tirelessly to create a more free and peaceful world through political activism and the promotion of alternative institutions. He is a proponent of health freedom and operates Brave Botanicals which offers kratom and CBD.
In 2015 he laid out his vision for Freedom Cells, small mutual aid groups networked with other cells to achieve common goals and secure the sovereignty of group members.
The Freedom Cell Network has since grown to thousands of people worldwide and hopes to one day replace the state as a means of social organization.
Ryan is VP of Sales in Live Free Academy and an all-around awesome dude. He'll be back on the show next and I'm excited to see what avenues our conversation takes us!
Connect with the guys:
Live Free Academy: https://livefree.academy/
Live Free Now with John Bush (podcast): https://livefreenow.show/
Telegram channel: https://t.me/livefreenowfeed
Odysee: https://odysee.com/@johnbushlivefreenow
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Transcript
Introduction to Live Free Academy and Guests
00:00:00
Speaker
All right, so today we have an awesome treat. We have two of the guys that are responsible for Live Free Academy. In case you don't know what that is, we'll have some links down below.
Origins and Personal Journeys
00:00:14
Speaker
But we have John Bush and Ryan Miniti. Guys, thank you so much for joining me today.
00:00:19
Speaker
Thanks for having us. Pleasure to be on. I'm sure many of the guys listening know what Live Free Now podcast is and the Live Free Academy, but for those that don't, do you guys want to tell us a little bit about your journey and how you all met and started this project? Come on, you share first.
00:00:40
Speaker
Yeah, so I was working for another company in Austin and they came out with a mask mandate at the beginning of 2022. And so when I got back from New Year's Day and like celebrating all of that stuff, on the second or third, when we got back to work, they handed me a mask and said, all right, everybody has to wear a mask.
00:01:05
Speaker
said no, like shove it. And so I went out and I ran my route. And then when I got back, they're like, well, you can't come inside the building if you're not going to wear a mask. And I'm like, all right, then I'll just I'll do my cash out tomorrow morning at 430 in the morning before anybody gets here. And eventually, they just put me on unpaid suspension for like a month. And I think they were trying to
00:01:30
Speaker
to dry me out, you know, just sit at home, not have any money coming in and eventually like I'll just buckle and come back because I was a prize employee. I took over one of the worst routes and made them one of the best routes. And so after that,
00:01:47
Speaker
I was just looking for another job. They ended up taking the mask mandate away a month after they had instituted it. So I went back to work for a little while, but I was looking for something else. And I went to Float Fest, which is like a freedom libertarian kind of festival thing. And that's where I met John for the third time. He thinks it's the first. It was actually the third.
00:02:12
Speaker
John is a lot of people. But anyway, I told them I'm like, Hey, man, this is my situation. I saw that you have a job listing it for at the time it was packaging cratum. And I was like, I'll package the cratum. I don't care. I just I'd want to work for a freedom minded company. I don't want to be put in another position like this ever again. And so
00:02:32
Speaker
We dialogue from there had an interview where and John's like a big Elon guy. So he has a he has a poster of Elon in his office. And as soon as I walk in, I'm like, Oh, you're a muskuck. And he's like,
00:02:47
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He's like, what? It almost cost him the job. Yeah. It almost cost me everything. Good thing he's a smooth talker. Right. I love that. Muskook. Yeah, Muskook. So I ended up closing him on hiring me. And then I just kept on building and building. We do some sales training over here. So I built up my sales repertoire. And now I'm the vice president of sales for Live Free Academy.
00:03:14
Speaker
And I couldn't be happier. This has really been a dream come true. And just working for people who have those values and those standards and aren't willing to compromise on their beliefs. Love it.
00:03:26
Speaker
Yeah, at delivery Academy, we help people create greater freedom, prosperity and community. We focus a lot on Bitcoin, cryptocurrency, alternative currencies. We help people to accelerate their plans of exiting the cities and moving out to the country, homesteading, becoming more self-reliant, connecting with local food producers. But there's a really big emphasis on building community, whether it's people buying land cooperatively,
00:03:53
Speaker
or people connecting with their neighbors and really forming tight bonds and getting one another's back. And then a lot of what we do has to do with finding success in one's life, whether it's financial success, having healthy relationships, and there's a big emphasis on entrepreneurship. So those are three key areas
00:04:10
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you know, cryptocurrency, decentralized technology, exiting the cities, building community, homesteading, and success and entrepreneurship that in my life have really helped me to create a whole lot of freedom and really enjoy life a whole lot.
Freedom and Self-Reliance Principles
00:04:26
Speaker
And Ryan plays a big role here. I will say though, he'd left his other job because they try to force him to wear a mask. And we had a policy when you're packaging Kratum, you have to wear a mask, not because of COVID or anything. So we butted heads a little bit over that. But anyway,
00:04:40
Speaker
He does good work here. The first week was definitely rocky. Only the first week, though. Everything else has been complete. Most comment, and then the whole mask thing. John's looking at me all serious, like, so what are we going to do? I'm like, I don't know. I got fired from my last job for not wearing a mask. Try again with this one. I'll just keep moving on. We compromised with a face shield, but that only lasted a whole lot.
00:05:10
Speaker
A couple of weeks ago I went to get my mercury amalgams taken out so the the clinic I was in
00:05:19
Speaker
both of the, so the doctor, the dentist and her assistant, both of them double masked and more visors. So I'm like, I said to them, no, no, this is because when you're extracting mercury, you want to protect yourself. There was a big tube sucking the air out. Uh, and they, they had, uh, mask me. I had goggles on and everything. You have to be very careful. So I said to them, this is the only time ever in the last three years that I have approved of double masking and wearing a visor.
00:05:46
Speaker
Right, right. Oh, my gosh. But let's go back. John, I want my listeners to hear your story in case they haven't. So you actually last year I have to really I owe you a debt of gratitude, bro. And I promise to pay it forward because I don't think I can pay it back to you. But last year, I believe you were one of the few people that really pulled me out of what definitely was some type of
00:06:16
Speaker
quote, unquote, depression, existential crisis, whatever. So listening to your podcast a lot for, you know, weeks on end. And it basically got me out of the doom and gloom. You know, the apocalypse is coming to
00:06:33
Speaker
You know, I have a lot of power, personal power, and I'm going to focus on solutions. And I've been focusing on solutions since then. And, you know, I want to thank you for that. First of all, this is why it's such a great honor to have both of you guys on because you're building this amazing thing. It's truly a business that we can all, all of us in the alternative media can look at and try to emulate parts, aspects of it. Right. So anyway, for the listeners, tell us how you got into it because you've been you've been doing this for quite a while now.
00:07:04
Speaker
Yeah, sure.
Activism and Personal Struggles
00:07:05
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So, uh, about 20 years ago, I guess over 20 years ago now, I caught a documentary on cable access in Austin called 9 11 road to tyranny by old Alex Jones. I was a big eye opener. I was a bit of a rebel in high school and gotten a lot of trouble. And we actually started a group called the student anarchist front to protest against their new tardy table detention policy. I don't really know what anarchism was, but I thought it was cool.
00:07:32
Speaker
Anyway, learned a lot about the whole conspiratorial view of history, went down a rabbit hole after catching that documentary, annoyed the heck out of my parents and my high school friends, and really just tried to wake people up. Started protesting against the wars in the Middle East, learned about the American Civil Liberties Union, had a reverence for the US Constitution, learning about it in college. We actually started at ACLU chapter at Texas State University.
00:08:00
Speaker
They do some good work, but they're also pretty far left when it comes to their politics. But I learned about Ron Paul in 2007, and I had already started just barely hearing about libertarianism, this radical idea that we own our bodies and we should have control over our lives and our money and our property.
00:08:17
Speaker
And the Ron Paul campaign was a big catalyst for my growth as an activist. So just hearing the old guy talk about ending the wars and free markets and ending the Fed was really provocative for me. So we did a lot of activism. Shortly after that, we started a political action committee called Texans for Accountant Government and did politics pushing back against the police states and the surveillance state.
00:08:40
Speaker
And we actually had a lot of victories. Our little crew here in Central Texas, we helped to stop police officers from being trained to do blood withdrawals. We helped to enact a privacy policy for these fusion centers, the Department of Homeland Security, information gathering, intelligence sharing systems that interconnect local, state and federal law enforcement.
00:08:59
Speaker
But at the end of the day, even though we had what seemed as victories, they were actually empty victories because we weren't actually creating greater freedom for ourselves. We were simply slowing the growth of tyranny. And that wasn't satisfactory. I was convinced at this time that freedom is the answer. What's the question? Freedom is always the answer no matter what the question is. And so we started to explore the creation of alternative institutions even before I learned about Bitcoin in 2012.
00:09:26
Speaker
We were encouraging local farmers market vendors to trade in alternative currencies for example we were growing our own food we had a bunch of who will culture garden beds and raised bed gardens in like a hundred and twenty chickens at one point is my ex-wife and i we had two kids home birth at our at our homestead.
00:09:46
Speaker
And around this time, you know, life was great, but there was a lot of struggles. We lost the homestead we were on, we moved into an apartment, and there was a whole lot of conflict and tension between the ex-wife and I. And that's actually, and I was, you know, angry and short and tense. And that's actually something that served as a catapult, as a momentum builder for me to dive really deep into self-development.
00:10:12
Speaker
So started with Tony Robbins and then Stephen Covey, seven habits, highly effective people really just leaned into how can I be the best person I could be to show up stronger for my kids. Also during this time, we were living in some pretty serious poverty. We got kicked out of our apartment for being behind on rent.
00:10:30
Speaker
The electricity was constantly getting turned off. The kids never starved or went hungry, but you know, they sure got tired of ramen and macaroni and cheese and canned food. So I started leaning into entrepreneurship and learning and learning and learning and learned about Grant Cardone, this whole 10X idea. And thankfully, I found an incredible woman who really has been so kind to me and my kids, my wife, Rebecca, and just having
00:10:56
Speaker
less negativity in my life and then all of a sudden having somebody that really cared for me deeply and helped to lift me up made a big difference so that's really how i've been leaning into now this whole idea of self empowerment stepping out of victimhood taking responsibility for our circumstances
00:11:14
Speaker
and really trying to be the best people that we can be, not just for ourselves and our own lives, but for our family and for future generations to come because there's a lot of ugly stuff going on in the world. And I really appreciate you sharing that feedback because I, you know, we work really hard here and sometimes we exhaust ourselves and it can be stressful. But hearing that the message that we're putting out has a positive impact on people makes a world of difference. I strongly believe that if more people realize that and if we stop
00:11:41
Speaker
bitch in and start building like Rebecca says, if we step out of this reactionary paradigm and start building the world that we want to see, I think that we can actually create it. Maybe if it's not in our lifetime, at least in our kiddos lifetime, but the momentum is on our side and I appreciate that feedback that you shared with me.
00:11:59
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely, man. I think it's so well put. Instead of bitching and moaning, we have to just build the world we want to see rather than break down. I love the way you put it, slowing the growth of tyranny. Do we want to play that game or do we just want to create the reality
00:12:16
Speaker
we want for ourselves and our kids. And I love that we also did a home birth and, you know, there's so many things we align on, you know what I mean? But, you know, like, did you ever expect when you were kind of getting out of that rut you were in, kind of near the end of your previous relationship, did you ever expect to ever build something this incredible?
00:12:43
Speaker
I, uh, I always knew that it was going to happen. One of the things I learned from Tony Robbins was certainty. So you just become so absolutely certain in the life that you want that it makes it impossible for it to not happen. Right. But still there was all this doubt and negative self-talk and I had somebody in my life where there's a whole lot of friction, tension and stress.
00:13:06
Speaker
And it was the presence of that that really made it harder for me to, you know, take charge and, and really start taking control of my life. But I always knew, and I would say it back in the day, you know, we're going to be wealthy someday. And, but it was like empty because there we are in the poor house. We literally moved into a converted school bus that was like in bad shape and lived in there with the two kids as we remodeled and tried to upgrade it.
00:13:29
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So it seemed like some far off distant thing that may be impossible, but I always knew in my heart of hearts that this was going to be the reality.
00:13:39
Speaker
In all honesty, though, we're not anywhere near living up to our potential with what we're doing here, with what Rebecca and I are doing, with our land development project, with what Ryan and I are doing to grow this company. We do impress ourselves sometimes, and we're like, wow, look at all that we've accomplished. But we're not satisfied with that at all, because I think we have bigger and better things to do. But the certainty thing, when you can just really tap into that space, like this is going to be my future. You focus on it.
00:14:06
Speaker
you write about it you dream about it you do vision board type stuff and you just really help to manifest it it's not some hairy fairy thing like all we gotta do is think about it it's gonna become reality by no mistake you know there should be no confusion about how much work it takes to really craft the life of your dreams but um to answer your question i you know i always had an inkling that we would do big things and i think we're just barely getting started here
Community Projects and Team Dynamics
00:14:32
Speaker
Awesome. So what's the plans for the future now, for the near and the coming future? What do we got going on, Regga? Well, we actually have been doing a lot of work, or Rebecca has, for Exit and Build Property Solutions. It's what John just mentioned, our land development company. So the goal is to do 100 plus acres and develop it into eco-village slash intentional community slash just like
00:14:59
Speaker
you know, a bunch of liberty people living by one another. So that's the large scale. Yeah, here in Central Texas. So that's what we're planning on doing. And, you know, a lot of people that I talked to, at least, you know, they want, you know, their own kind of like private thing. So we're going to make it like two, three acre lots where people feel like they have their privacy and it's not some like interconnected living communist like kind of situation because I know a lot of people like
00:15:29
Speaker
Don't worry about that. It's like, oh, it's a community. I'm not looking for a commune. No, we're not trying to do a commune. It's going to be like a liberty thing. Everybody's doing their own thing, but we all collaborate on things, Agora style. So definitely doing a lot of work for that at the moment. We also have this health summit coming up in November, November 1st through the 5th. And we're going to have some of the top speakers in the health space talking about detoxing, immunity,
00:15:57
Speaker
longevity, health, fitness, just a bunch of different things, diet, nutrition, cover cover all of the areas, something that I'm personally really excited about. I've been involved in the health space. That's basically like what woke me up in the beginning was
00:16:13
Speaker
realizing like the food pyramid. Like I started listening to like Ben Greenfield and Chris Kresser and like some of these guys and they're talking about like, oh, the food pyramid like actually ever since we instituted that like the 70s, American obesity rates have skyrocketed and you're just like, wait,
00:16:30
Speaker
What? And the government's putting that out? Well, why is the government putting out information that is actually making us fatter and sicker? And then you start going down that rabbit hole. It's like, wait, what's the Flexner report? And then you just, you know, you keep snowballing and there's like vaccines and it keeps going like further and further and you know, all of that kind of stuff. So I'm really excited to be, you know, put, have such a helping hand in putting together this health and fitness summit.
00:17:00
Speaker
Just so you know anybody that isn't as abreast of all of the information and stuff as I am I get to put a lot of the experts that I listen to in front of these kinds of people and they get to Learn some of the stuff that I've learned Amazing. Yeah Jesus I mean like there's so many you guys are doing so many things that how many people working in the company right now?
00:17:22
Speaker
15 or so? Contractors mostly. But here in the office, because you know, John always throws around like, Oh, we usually have like 15 to 17. But it's like mostly contractors doing part time work here at the office, like making everything happen. It's me, john and Becca.
00:17:40
Speaker
like doing the majority of the work. And then we have some different people that come in here and there to do some packaging for Brave and other small things. But the only full timers that are here, you know, day in, day out, 40 plus hours a week is me, John and Becca. So a lot of people are just like, oh, you're such a huge company. And like, you probably have all these resources. It's like not really. It's three people trying to make like all of these things happen. We do an exit and build land summit.
00:18:09
Speaker
We have like 450 people there and it takes so much planning and coordination and getting sponsors and speakers and working out all the logistics to fly the speakers down and get their hotel rooms that people see all the huge successful event but then they don't see the three people toiling away from like eight in the morning till nine at night trying to make it happen.
00:18:34
Speaker
Yeah, dude, I'm surprised you guys look this freaking fresh and not stressed. Is it the Kratum or the CBD or what? The Kratum definitely helps a lot. That's another company that we have, mybravebotanicals.com.
00:18:49
Speaker
Uh, Kratum's a member of the coffee family. It helps people with stress, anxiety, focus, other types help with pain, relaxation, help with sleep, something that's near and dear to me. I've been taking it for several years and it just really helps take the edge off. But I think we're just so passionate about the mission. So we're blessed to earn a living and earn a decent living.
00:19:10
Speaker
Helping people to be more free and talking to freedom people all day and sitting down doing interviews with cool people like this and and helping people break through of their overcoming beliefs and and Just having a positive impact. So I think we're just motivated by kicking butt for the cause of freedom and Meeting a lot of really cool people doing it
00:19:28
Speaker
I think that's a total political answer. I think it's all of the beef. We eat an insane amount of red meat here at the office. We're always grilling steaks or making ground beef. I eat like two pounds of red meat a day. That's going to raise your cholesterol. You're going to die of heart disease.
00:19:52
Speaker
That was another thing. That was another thing I learned early on like the whole cholesterol myth I know that like it's at some point you do get like the diminishing returns But like oh as long as you're not like slamming a ton of butter like eating two sticks of butter a day by itself or something crazy like that I Have my freezer half my freezer has just carry gold I
00:20:19
Speaker
Hell yeah, dude, it's the best butter. I don't know why it tastes so good. Butter's the best to cook with. Yeah.
00:20:26
Speaker
What the hell was I gonna say? What were we just talking about? Sorry guys, I've heard that. Nothing super important. Oh yeah, you do know, right, that if you're gonna eat muscle meats, you need to balance it with glycine. Organs. Organs, yes, but also glycine. You know that, right? Because muscle meats are quite high in methionine. So when we used to eat the whole animal, nose to tail, we were getting a lot of the collagenous tissues. So that would balance the methionine with the glycine.
00:20:53
Speaker
it has to do with buffering methyl groups in the body but if you're the only muscle meat it can actually create a pro-inflammatory environment so you wanna add with every steak let's say eight ounce steak you wanna add three to four grams of either glycine or collagen
00:21:09
Speaker
or gelatin, about a teaspoon of gelatin. Dude, I do that with, I eat a ton of meat as well, but I always make sure to add, or if it's ground beef, then usually you're gonna get collagen in there so it's a bit more balanced.
00:21:25
Speaker
Right. I do the desiccated organ capsules from ancestral nutrition. I take about six of those a day. I do have liver because John and I, we have a network of local ranchers that we buy our beef from so we don't have to get the mRNA beef at the store.
00:21:49
Speaker
I mean, that's crazy, right? Like, why are they putting mRNA in the cows? But so yeah, we have safety, dude. Right. They're trying to keep us safe. Have you looked into that appeal stuff, like the Bill Gates appeal, um, coding that they're gonna put on fruits and vegetables?
00:22:11
Speaker
No, I haven't, but... Oh my God. Yeah, look into that one. Maybe you don't have to go down too many rabbit holes, but Bill Gates basically is coming up with this coating, this like wax kind of coating that they're going to put on vegetables and fruits to make them last longer, but it's filled with a bunch of
00:22:33
Speaker
Toxins and bs that people are just going to consume and it could be organic and still have it, right? Yeah, absolutely so And then that we trust organic anyway, right? I mean organics basically like a bought lay marketing. Yeah, just like natural all next
00:22:49
Speaker
That's why, that's why it's so awesome that you know people, they're ranchers that you can actually build relationships and ask them a lot. You can grill them. What are you doing to these animals or to these vegetables? That's... Yeah. I mean, this is... Cole Bolton. Cole Bolton from KNC cattle in Austin. John Pantalone from Amber Oaks Ranch. Two great guys. Cole Bolton, actually KNC cattle. They have 2000 head of cattle and they do shipping. They ship, let me drop the URL. kccattlecompany.com. KNC cattle. No, I'm looking at it right now.
00:23:20
Speaker
You get real milk in Texas? That's not the right one. This isn't it? No. That's the wrong website. Kansas City. KNC cattle, trust me. Ryan, do you mind me asking how old you are? I'm 27.
00:23:42
Speaker
Jesus, I knew it, you bastard. I'm just getting old. Yeah, yeah. No, actually, I used to drive for FedEx and I would listen to podcasts for like eight to 12 hours a day. And so I just got a PhD. That's when I started listening to Ricky from the ripple effect. You were on his show and you've also been on a macroaggressions and tinfoil hat, like all staples of mine. He's a podcast guy. When I was driving. Love that.
00:24:12
Speaker
But I mean, I just had so much stuff. I mean, I could listen to Chris Kresser. I could listen to Ben Greenfield. I could listen to all these biohacking guys and just get like a PhD in nutrition and building muscle and all of this kind of stuff while I'm just driving around. But then I can also like delve into the conspiratorial angle where I want to dip my toe in that. So hold on. So you have a PhD, you know, the stuff that you still can't get done to not be a muskuck.
00:24:41
Speaker
How the fuck? He intervention or
Speculations on Elon Musk
00:24:46
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something. Yeah. Well, that's that's the thing about John is that I mean, he's he's a super rational guy and he can speak for himself. But he's like, hey, you know, I recognize like maybe Musk is like this NWO kind of guy. And he's deceiving us all maybe or or maybe he's just so passionately driven by making humans a multi planetary species.
00:25:11
Speaker
colonizing Mars so the light of human consciousness doesn't get distinguished if there's some kind of global thermal nuclear war or some kind of asteroid hits the planet that he's willing to, like Machiavelli, the ends justify the means. He's willing to do business with the Department of Defense. He's willing to launch satellites for DARPA because in order, he needs to be in good graces of the United States government in order to fulfill his mission. So I think that he's done a lot of great things. I think he puts out a lot of great products.
00:25:40
Speaker
But that all falls down when you talk about the firmament and how we can't get outside of the earth and nothing's coming in. So this whole asteroid going to Mars, Fugazi. So the whole thing is just BS. So how did the dinosaurs die then, Ryan? There were none. Yes. You might as well be just dying. There were none? What about evolution? Do you think that there were dinosaurs, bro? What about evolution, though?
00:26:06
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Didn't the fish fuck a lizard that you came here? That's exactly what happened. How do you think humans?
00:26:16
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6,000 years, bro, come on. Come on. 6,000 years. This is Ryan's PhD on display here. Yeah. No, I actually have this book called Evolution 2.0. I haven't read it yet, but I listened to him on a podcast. It was a really compelling argument. So I definitely want to delve into the evolution thing. It's not your theory of knowledge is podcast.
00:26:44
Speaker
Maybe so. But I don't know. I don't think it's straight evolution, and I don't think it's straight creationism. So it's homosexual evolution? Homosexual. I agree. What's going on there? What are you talking about?
00:26:58
Speaker
You said you don't think it's straight evolution. OK, I see. I get the gas. OK, I know. I actually, to be honest, like I also don't believe, I believe most of you guys know that most of if if fake news is has been so bad in the last few years that people know, imagine how bad history is. Right. And Napoleon himself said history is a set of lies agreed upon. So for sure, I honestly am not discounting or my mind is open that
00:27:27
Speaker
the there was a, you know, a great mud flood or reset, and there was a much more advanced civilization than us, quote unquote, Tartaria, that had free wireless electricity, maybe the pyramids were either chemical factories, or perhaps they were beaming free electricity. And even the Greeks and the Romans and the previous advanced civilizations would always
00:27:55
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revere their ancestors as wiser than them, more advanced than them, in all ways. And we are now kind of conditioned from an early age to have this hubris that we are at the pinnacle of civilization.
00:28:11
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We already covered the food pyramid stuff. We are in the aggregate, the sickest, and the IQs have been falling as well. Actually, the IQ is also a surrogate for thyroid function. Our metabolic rates, our health obviously is declining, but the two are very closely healthy.
00:28:34
Speaker
Health thyroid function metabolic rate is actually very tightly coupled with your level of intelligence So that's all declining. We're actually degenerating in the aggregate with a few amazing souls like yourselves You know that are Gonna carry the torch on in the next generation, which is obviously why we're here talking about it Yeah, I think there's a lot to be said whenever there's common themes amongst different cultures and civilizations not only throughout time but all across the globe
00:29:04
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And if there wasn't the ability to communicate, then many of these different people must have been experiencing similar phenomenon for sure.
00:29:11
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It's all I think there's a lot of knowledge that's deliberately kept from people. And one of the things that we can do is remain like the Buddha called it the beginner's mind. So that's how like with Elon, I'm a big Elon fan, but I'm not such a fan that I'll deny the possibility that it's a total fugazi and I'm getting played big time, right? So you and then it's like, okay, because I'm always about what is this? What do we do with this information?
00:29:36
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Because we can talk till we're blue in the face, we can speculate, we can theorize about the New World Order and what their plans are. But ultimately, like, what are we going to do about it? And so that's really what's most important. And whether there's firmament space or not, flat earth or not, whatever, what happened with our ancestors or, you know,
00:29:56
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pre-civilization or not, you know, there are, there is knowledge to gain, but then it's like, let's apply those principles. Let's try to become the best versions of ourselves. Let's pass that on to the next generations and let's try to turn this tide around because it's like you said, people are getting dumber and they're getting less healthy. The, how long people live is declining and it's absolutely nuts and it doesn't have to be that way. And I'm seeing more and more, there's going to be this shift, this split. Derek bros called it the fracturing.
00:30:25
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where you have the mainstream society that's like all decked out, eating terrible food, taking all the shots. Up to date on the boosters. And then the kids are all like dumbed down, not thinking for themselves. And then you have free people that are eating well, reconnecting to the land, raising their kids in a positive, healthy way. And it's just going to split. And the whole thing with the boosters is like, why would they want the most docile, obedient citizens to be the ones to die?
00:30:51
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And then the sovereign people are all healthy and doing better. You know, it's kind of like that doesn't make sense to me, but who really knows at the end? Ultimately, what are we going to do about it? Absolutely. There's actually some of these things it's worth. It's worth raising the question because it's worth thinking about and reflecting in our own time because it will allow us to. You have to put yourself in the shoes of your
00:31:15
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quote-unquote enemy or oppressor or whatever in order to preempt their moves and protect yourself, right? But I most certainly agree that, you know, although we make fun of Elon for being, you know, like a puppet of the elite, we don't know for sure that he is that sure. And I think it's okay
00:31:39
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to be inspired by someone that you may not completely 100% say is on our side.
00:31:47
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Sometimes, you know, you can learn, you can even learn from the quote unquote Illuminati or whatever you want to call it. You can learn things from them, even if that is how not to be in the world. Because, you know, if you don't see the if you don't see the negative aspect, how are you going to recognize the positive aspect in yourself or the world? So I think there's everything in life comes here for a reason in our consciousness to teach us something.
Societal Influence and Stress Management
00:32:14
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For sure, and I'm constantly fascinated with the New World Order and like, because I woke up after 9-11 and was like, wow, this was one hell of a sophisticated psychological operation that they were able to pull off this false flag attack.
00:32:29
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and then get everybody so freaked out that they'll willingly accept war that they'll take their shoes off, they'll go through the body scanner, have pat-downs, all this stuff. By the way, this stuff still comes up with people doing the pat-down stuff. I figured out a nice little hack. Anyone can try it. It's worked for me for 10 years now. Plus,
00:32:50
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Whenever you get selected to go to the body scanner, I guess everybody does now that used to be like 5050 kind of deal. You just say, you know, I can't do the scanner, I have a shoulder injury and I can't raise my hands above my head. And instead of sending you to do a pat down, they actually send you to the metal detector.
00:33:07
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and just swab your hands. Just quick pro tip. But I'm always looking for little nuggets of wisdom from our enemies because man, they have really done well at advancing the ball. And one key thing is everybody seems to be focused on the election of the day or how am I going to pay this month's rent and the bills and what are we and everybody's reacting, right? We got to stop the lockdowns.
00:33:30
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The cbdcs are coming all this stuff we react to the most pressing attack on our freedom in the moment and a whole movement and a bunch of people just get swayed into this reactionary paradigm let's push back let's fight let's try to get legislation passed.
00:33:46
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But I'm like, man, these New World Order clowns, they have a multi-generational plan. And you have some of these secret society groups, maybe you trace them back to the Milner Group and the Cecil Rhodes, the Rhodes Scholarship, right? And they got the round table groups and the Royal Institute of International Affairs, Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberg Group, and the most popular one nowadays that seems to be leading the charge is the World Economic Forum. And it's like, they're looking at how can we transform over a long period of time.
00:34:16
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I was just listening to something. It was Dan Kennedy talking about companies in Japan are looking at how can we set up success for multiple generations. So, and that's to think about legacy. You know, like what can I do to prepare my kids for success in the present moment so maybe they can take on the work and the work that we've started. But that's one thing I always learn from the New World Order. They're damn good at marketing too and getting people freaked out. Just went to church with my mom and they all go to Catholic Church, right?
00:34:43
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And, um, my parents attempted to raise me Catholic, but I bucked the system and never did like the first community stuff. But like, you know, you go to a Catholic mass, it's the same damn mass is the same one from the last time I went to church with them. It's the same mass from when I was a kid and everybody standing up and sitting down and all regurgitating the same lines. And then they get all excited about drinking
00:35:04
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the blood of Christ and the flesh of their deity. And I'm just thinking to myself like, dang, these guys have this group of people on lock. And it's like, what is it about it? Well, it all starts with a compelling story. The story of Jesus Christ, right? And I don't want to offend anybody or anything, whether he rose and was resurrected, or maybe he was a total just badass healer and tapped into some next level stuff. Maybe he studied in the Eastern religions for a period of his life and reached Nirvana.
00:35:33
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maybe he wasn't even a historical figure right i think the middle approach is most accurate like he was a guy that did some amazing things and people followed him and then of course it gets all perverted like you're saying with history ryan thinks it's all fugazi but the way i was like it all starts with the compelling story
00:35:50
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and then bringing people together and having that connection. Because people love or hate the church. You can't discount the fact that people have community, communion in the church. They're there for one another. Pray for my sick loved one. We just lost our house to a fire. Let's do a fundraiser. That's really special. And I was also thinking to myself, there's all these atheists and people that just like crap all over church. But I think there's something special about having something bigger than yourself to believe in. Whether it's a mission to create a free society,
00:36:19
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Whether it's a mission to raise your family and leave a lasting generation and to contemplate like, I want to set my grandchildren up and my great grandchildren up. What can I do now? A lot of people are just focused on their own little.
00:36:32
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and a
00:36:57
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Yeah, and then he's going to be in the Wikipedia of the future. He's going to be this, you know, close to becoming a saint or something for the work he did. Well, I was just talking about this with John earlier. My friends, like my Blue Pill Normie friends that I grew up with, they all still think that Bill Gates is like this
00:37:20
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philanthropist and, you know, like Charlie Robinson's joke on philanthropist. Yeah, full on rapist. Yeah, I mean, they think he's this huge philanthropist and that he's given these vaccines to Africa, which is like, if you're clued in, it's like, all right, that's evil as fuck if you're woke on the vaccine thing. But then, you know, they just look at it like, oh, he's preventing all these diseases in Africa. And
00:37:46
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doing all of these things around the world to promote well being amongst humanity. Like he's already viewed as this like saint like figure. So I mean, we're living in the future where people will think that he's a total saint. Yeah.
00:38:03
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Yeah, dude. And I'm using his operating system right now. Definitely, you know, yourself, John, last again, last year, I was really avidly listening to you. And again, three, being inspired by you, I definitely was thinking more and more about what legacy am I gonna leave? Not just how am I going to educate my child and my children?
00:38:30
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excuse me, hopefully more children than one in the future. But what world do I want to leave for my kids? And honestly, I think the reason most people don't think about this, it's because we are
00:38:45
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through fear and stress stuck in the lizard brain quote unquote we're kind of stuck in this sort of survival mode because when you elevate let's say i scared the bejesus out of you with some news of like this bug that's going to come crawl up your butt and kill you you are now
00:39:05
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in survival mode, that cortisol that gets raised systemically and chronically, it literally atrophies your brains. It literally, cortisol's role is to break down muscle tissue, bone tissue, organs, and eventually even it will start deteriorating your brain to raise up glucose that can be created, basically substrates that the liver can create
00:39:31
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into glucose because you are getting signals that you are in a war or a famine. That's what these stress hormones do to you chronically. And we didn't used to live like that. Even 500 years ago, even 300 years ago, we were living in a way where there's a stress and then it's gone. You have to sprint to get away from something and it's gone. Now we're constantly
00:39:57
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We have the stress hormone milieu, it's constantly elevated. And what does that do? That actually shuts off higher thought, creativity, higher intelligence, all that good stuff, right? And this is why many people cannot
00:40:14
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Think beyond this month's paycheck or the bills or just surviving the lockdown. It's because this stress cascade is is destroying that possibility, you know, so You know, this is actually where I think interrupting that cascade chemically with supplements like even CBD or I haven't used Kratum I'd love to try some I'm not sure if I can get it in Europe and
00:40:40
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But even certain neuro steroids, even certain steroids that you can get over the counter in the USA, like DHEA, pregnenolone, these can actually oppose cortisol and estrogen and these other hormones. So if you take these, you can actually create a profound stillness in your brain and suddenly access this higher thought. You know what I mean?
00:41:05
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Yeah, man, that's super insightful to understand the physiological functioning of the human body and how it relates to the world we live in and the culture and the society that we live in. And, you know, the enemies of Liberty most definitely know how to play that, play that card. As you were sharing that, I was thinking back to
00:41:28
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to my life before when I was in my previous relationship and it was just constant fighting and stress, a constant cortisol. And even though I believe I had a couple decent vehicles for building a good income and supporting my family.
00:41:44
Speaker
I was never able to tap into that space of just ease and productivity and like, I got this, believe in yourself. Let's come up with some good, let's, let's do the work to make this work. Cause like, it was just constant anger, fear, resentment, conflict. And we most.
00:42:02
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everybody most definitely experienced that with COVID. I remember when COVID first popped off, I had trouble sleeping. And there were so many different news stories that were popping off. And like just from the mainstream, but then trying to dig down the rabbit hole to see what's really going on. It was like, just constant. And I was like, addicted, you know, I use social media, I try to use social media, not be used by social media, but I still find myself scrolling on Twitter, most of all.
00:42:29
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speaking of Elon Musk. But it was like, I couldn't stop looking. And then that that cortisol and all that energy trying to go to sleep, I got terrible rest for months on end. But finally was able to snap out of it. And I think the big thing for people
00:42:45
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In our community, a lot of people that are awake and aware, we tend to pride ourselves like we don't buy into the mainstream narrative and we know that the news is fake, yet so many people are still so consumed with the alternative media
00:43:03
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And unlike programs like yours and the work we're doing at Libfree Academy, a lot of the alternative media is focused on fear and cortisol dropping too. And sensation list. And people know when the more sensational is the headline, the more we lean into the fear factor in the article, the more clicks we're going to get, the more shares we're going to get, the more eyes and impressions on the ad that we have next to the article. So one thing I try to tell people is like,
00:43:28
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what you think creates your reality i strongly firmly believe that and there's like you know it's a metaphysical spiritual thing but there's also some science behind it the whole energetics of it all. What you focus on you know that where is it where your attention goes energy flows so there's a lot of people in our community and our network.
00:43:46
Speaker
that are like all their time is spent researching the New World Order. And that's it. And watching documentaries on Rumble. And of course, it should come as no surprise that these people are freaked out and they feel disempowered. Contrast that with the community that we're building and people in the Freedom Cell Network and people that are taking control of their health and raising families, getting the kids together, growing their own food, getting their hands in the dirt, building things.
00:44:13
Speaker
Instead of just speculating and theorizing about what the next move is, they're like, I see what's going on, but I am going to take proactive steps to insulate myself from it. When you step into that space, you begin to feel empowered. You begin to feel more confident in your ability to steer your own life.
00:44:30
Speaker
And you begin to experience greater freedom. And I always like to share with people in spite of perhaps some of the most sophisticated tyranny and technocracy we've ever experienced.
Mindset Shifts and Community Building
00:44:40
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Now, of course, mind you, we got much greater freedom, quality of life, abundance than ever before. Don't forget there wasn't very long ago where if you spoke out against the king, you had your head on a stake, right, for all the towns where to see.
00:44:53
Speaker
And there's still some areas in this world where that type of thing happens in some regards. And China, for example, so we should be grateful if we live in a Western country. It may, you know, Europe's got a lot of work to do, but here in the States, but still Europe, relative to other places, we should be grateful for that. But yeah, I like to tell people like, let's step out of that paradigm. Let's be grateful for what we have. Let's go get our hands in the dirt.
00:45:16
Speaker
Let's experience the freedom, the beauty, the wonder, the harmony that this life has to offer. And let's stop all the cortisol drops by becoming productive. And when you step into that space and I'm with you, there's a lot of people that can't ever do that higher thinking to even see the program. There's a program being carried out. Everyone's just playing the program. They're living the program. And because they don't have the time or the ability or the
00:45:42
Speaker
The thought capacity because they're constantly in fight or flight mode to examine what's going on. They just carry out that program and money has a lot to do with it. The system and the economy and the Federal Reserve and the central banks and the taxation is all set up to just have people in a constant rat race. But if you can tap out of that.
00:46:00
Speaker
then you can create a life for yourself where you have the opportunity and the ability to do things that truly fulfill you. And that's possible for everybody. The first thing is just to believe that it's possible and then start working towards it.
00:46:15
Speaker
That is beautifully said, bro. In fact, you kind of almost answered. So since about October last year, I started asking near the end of the shows, I started asking the guests a question for my Solutions Talk segment. So the idea is to get your answer to this question.
00:46:36
Speaker
and then i'm gonna start cutting them out and posting them separately so i'd like to kind of already you're both of you guys are so solutions focused and i knew this is gonna be the dominant theme of the of the show
00:46:52
Speaker
But I would like to get it once again out of you for posterity. So I'll start with Ryan. For my Solutions Talk segment, Ryan, what are you doing that others can do also to increase their freedom, self-reliance, autonomy, and or resilience to the challenges that we face this decade and beyond?
00:47:14
Speaker
So the biggest thing that I think, and John as well, well, I don't want to speak for him, but he talks a lot about it as mindset. So like I mentioned earlier, when I left my last job, I was broke as shit.
00:47:31
Speaker
And then I came to LFA and I had to prove myself. So I wasn't making a crazy amount of money. I was just getting my hourly 40 hours a week and trying to recover from all the money that I had lost over that month.
00:47:48
Speaker
And it was just really, really hard. And I switched myself from a mindset of why is this happening to me to what can I do about this. So then that actually put me in a mindset where I started doing my sales training and I started applying my sales training.
00:48:06
Speaker
And I started talking to some of these 70 year old women on the phone that are super health conscious, and they just kind of want to blab about what they know. And so we just nerd out about health stuff on the phone. And then they end up like, Hey, so what are you selling? Because I'm buying and then you know, you just, you really just step into your true self, your empowered self. And you start taking that as far as it can go. And
00:48:33
Speaker
you know, really pushing people to step into their frame. There's a lot, a lot of people that I talk to. And I know that like in the conspiracy community, especially because I've been, you know, following and been in this nexus for like the last five years, 2018 is when I
00:48:48
Speaker
started listening to conspiracy shows and whatnot. There's this whole sales thing where people don't like sales in the conspiracy space. I used to be like that too. But there's a lot of people that told me that they did not want to come to the exit and build land summit because it was too much money or this and that.
00:49:08
Speaker
And then i ended up convincing them using like sales tactics and stuff that i learned and there's this whole like always sales dark arts kind of thing black magic and that's a whole nother topic that you can get into because you know at the end of the day you know you're trying to convince someone to choose your will over there's but
00:49:29
Speaker
Through this convincing of telling people to come to the exit and build land summit, they had a phenomenal time, life change and experience, met so many great people, had this amazing networking experience. There have been people that we've had that have networked with speakers and then been hired by speakers to do projects at their properties that they
00:49:52
Speaker
you know, have experience in and a lot of knowledge, you know, their masters in this particular area. And it just so happens that Ken Barry needs someone to help him with his hogs. And then Pharaoh Charles from Pharaoh knows all about that stuff. And so he can he can work with Ken Barry and do that stuff. I mean, how crazy is that? It's such a good networking opportunity. And so I know that so many people have had life changing experiences at our events and from our courses and learn so much that
00:50:21
Speaker
it gives me that ability to like sometimes push them over the edge like, hey, no, you should do this, you need to do this. And then they're they end up being grateful in the end. So I say that's the biggest thing that I'm doing at this moment, to create more freedom is giving people that kick in the ass like, no, man, you should do this. But by the way, we have a 30 day refund policy. So if you don't like it, you can do 30 days. So that's the biggest thing that I'm doing is just giving people a kick in the ass to actually go and do it.
00:50:50
Speaker
I appreciate that man. Also giving people that sort of option to get the refund, it shows that you value, you know, you're going to provide value way over whatever that price tag was, you know, a thousand bucks, 2000 bucks. It doesn't matter in the long term scheme of things.
00:51:11
Speaker
Thank you for that, brother. And John, what are you doing that others can do also to increase their freedom, self-reliance, autonomy, and or resilience to the challenges that we face this decade and beyond, brother?
00:51:25
Speaker
Uh, great question. And it's something that everybody should be focused on and thinking about often. Uh, one exercise I encourage people to do, and I've done myself is to be aware that the predator class, they have a strategy of making life difficult for you as a means of compelling, coercing, and socially engineering someone into doing something they normally wouldn't have done.
00:51:54
Speaker
And so this has been a strategy that governments and bullies have used throughout history, but they very much revealed their hand with COVID, right? You got to take this shot. If you don't take this shot, you can't go out to dinner with your family. You can't visit your ailing parent or grandparent. They're going to have to die alone, basically. You can't go to the kids' sports games, right? And then a lot of people just gave in.
00:52:20
Speaker
willy-nilly because they believe anything they see on TV. But there was a whole other group of people, a very large group of people that were like, yeah, I'm still not sure about this. They are not down the rabbit hole like we are seeing it for what it was. But they're like, I don't trust this. It hasn't been tested. It's being rushed. My gut says no. So then I'm like, okay, well, if you don't take the shot, then you're not going to be able to earn a living any longer. Right?
00:52:46
Speaker
And then a lot of people buckled at that point. I think ultimately what the biggest means of convincing people was the social pressure. Families pushing one another, alienation, you can't bring, you can't come over to my place for Thanksgiving dinner unless you've taken the shot.
00:53:03
Speaker
So we know what their strategy is what their tactic is it's to make life challenging for you so you can do things that they want you to do that you normally wouldn't have done so knowing this we can then identify areas of our life where vulnerable to that tactic.
00:53:20
Speaker
It's all about control. The more dependent you are on certain systems, institutions, the more easily you are controllable, the more they can control you. So for example, if you get all of your food from the grocery store, then it's easier to get you to eat mRNA vaccinated beef, for example.
00:53:38
Speaker
If you just listen to what your doctor says no matter what and just find their word to be truth then it's easier to get you to do something you don't want to do if you have one source of income and that source of income is social security here in the states or some sort of retirement account or corporate job.
00:53:57
Speaker
then they're going to easily be able to twist your arm as compared to having multiple different sources of income or being an entrepreneur. So I would encourage people to take a self-assessment, identify areas in your life where you are vulnerable to control because you're overly dependent on centralized and coercive institutions and then slowly but surely start working yourself towards greater independence.
00:54:20
Speaker
Perhaps there's areas where people are already very independent, then I would encourage you to go help others to become more independent in those areas. This is the essence of the exit and build strategy that we talk about. Exit those systems, institutions, exit those areas where you're dependent on centralized and coercive institutions and build the alternatives. That's something that we can do in our individual lives.
00:54:43
Speaker
And the more of us that do it and coalesce with other people doing it, we can help to lift one another up and greatly increase the chance that hopefully one day these systems have grown to a point where they're able to help us to live a good life, trade amongst ourselves, and fulfill our wants and needs without having to be dependent on the people that are trying to control us. Bro, that... I'm gonna have to like cut that out.
00:55:10
Speaker
and then put it on my phone and just play it in my head 24-7 for a few days, you know? Just really like MK out your style. I'll do the social engineering. Yeah, because this is the deprogramming and reprogramming with a better program. I love that. Just so eloquently said, it is so clear you've been thinking about these concepts and topics for a very long time and it just exudes out of you.
00:55:37
Speaker
Thanks.
Connecting with Live Free Academy
00:55:39
Speaker
Yeah, guys, thank you so much for your time today. This was definitely one of the highlights of my year so far interviewing y'all. Amazing, amazing work that you do. Before you go, please plug all the places that folks can connect with you on the internet and the web and whatnot.
00:55:58
Speaker
Yeah. So we got a lot of stuff going up. Ryan shared about the health summit. He's taken lead on organizing that. It's going to be really big deal. We've got some really great names that are going to be involved. We'd love for you to be involved and take part in it. So we'll put you on the spot here and invite you here live on the show.
00:56:15
Speaker
That's going to be taking place November 1st through the 5th. Before that, in mid-September, we're doing a Bitcoin workshop aimed at beginners and folks that struggle with technology. It's called Bitcoin Basics for Boomers and Beginners. So we always have a lot of stuff going on. The best way to stay in touch with us is to join the free daily email newsletter. We're constantly sharing stories, getting vulnerable, giving tips and strategies, and you'll be able to stay
00:56:40
Speaker
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00:56:50
Speaker
I would also encourage people to check out Exit and Build Property Solutions. If what I shared earlier sounds like something that you'd either like to be a resident in or maybe invest in and get a little ROI on your investment, then we'll definitely be sharing more and more details as those emerge and possibly do an investment dinner in October where we can share some more details of what that ROI will look like with potential investors.
00:57:19
Speaker
exitandbuildpropertiesolutions.com is the link for that. Awesome. Going to have those in the show description. Guys, thank you so much. That was amazing. Thank you for your time. Thanks for having us. Thanks, Christian.