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1.05 Bluestar's Prophecy Part 1
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Fireheart is gonna have to take a break this week, cause we're interrupting to talk about our queen Bluestar and how she deals with a deeply traumatic life. Our girl goes through so much, and we can only hope she'll get through it.
Four Clans of wild cats have shared the forest for generations, thriving in their territories. But tensions are running high, and ThunderClan must assert its strength or risk falling prey to its power-hungry neighbors.Into this time of uncertainty, a kit is born. A prophecy foretells that Bluekit will be as strong as fire, destined to blaze through the ranks of her Clan. But with this prophecy comes the foreshadowing of her destruction by the one enemy she cannot outrun.As Bluekit gains power and eventually earns her leader name, Bluestar, she fights to protect her Clan. But secrets from the past threaten to surface—secrets that may destroy ThunderClan... and Bluestar.
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00:00:10
Speaker
This is Never Grow Up, a show where two grown-ass adults discuss their love of middle-grade fiction. I'm one of your hosts, Laura. And I am your other host, Jerrica. And I have a sad book for you today. I'm so sorry. I...
00:00:26
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00:00:29
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Don't want to hear sad things. Okay, well, let's talk about something else then. Let's not talk about warriors today. All right, fine. Okay, so we are talking about Blue Star's prophecy.
00:00:46
Speaker
And let me first get at this out of the way. This was a Kate Carey book, which, as we all know,
00:00:57
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she hurts me and it was published in july of 2009 which is like six years after where we're at now but the reason that i have inserted this into the middle of what we have been doing is that i think it gives a lot of context for how blue star reacts to things um in the following books and kind of where her mental state is because there's a lot of loss in this book and you get to see her inside her brain.
00:01:34
Speaker
Is this where they talk about her kits and all that situation or? Yeah, so the concept of the super editions, when they started out at least, well, not when they started out. The concept for some of the super editions is that it would go it would cover like a cat's entire life practically.
00:01:55
Speaker
Oh. Yeah. so not like there are a lot of time skips, so it's not like every single part is in depth, but like they usually start when the cat is a kit and then they'll end like around the time that the cat entered the book. And that changes later on um They kind of just become extensions of the story later on, but that's how they started out mostly. Okay. Except for the first one, which is not like that at all, but...
00:02:28
Speaker
A lot of this Arrow ones are. And let me get something else out of the way also. Yes. We're going to skip the prologue.
00:02:39
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And usually I hate doing that. But i had a hard decision to make because the prologue spoils something that happens in book five.
00:02:52
Speaker
And obviously we're not there yet. But I think that... We can talk about it when we get there, first of all. And it we can talk about this book without needing the prologue at all. ah The prologue is kind of...
00:03:12
Speaker
I mean, it's just a scene that happens in the other book, essentially. I mean, you don't have to convince me. No, I'm like thinking it through. i I'm convincing the audience. They'll... They trust you.
00:03:24
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okay Don't you, listeners?
00:03:29
Speaker
Don't you? I love you, the listener. so cho Well, I love you, but I tell you off off camera all the time.
00:03:41
Speaker
Oh, yeah. So you don't want to make it public. I see. Yeah. I can't let them know.
00:03:49
Speaker
Keep it secret. Keep it safe. So chapter one starts out with little baby blue kit. Okay. Okay. She's an adorable. That's how she started out as blue kit.
00:04:05
Speaker
Well, yeah, because that's how that's how k clan cats start out with kit. I know, but
00:04:15
Speaker
So, like, there's there's there's how many gray kits are there? How many? She's gray blue. no no, I'm saying, like, how many ah ah Tabby kits are there? like She's not Tabby. No, what i'm set what I'm saying is how many kits start off with the name?
00:04:39
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a lot. Yes, well, okay. What are you getting at like Her name is Blue Kit because she's a kit and she's blue.
00:04:49
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Yeah. Okay.
00:04:54
Speaker
How many after or before her were also named Blue Kit because they were a kit and they were blue? I can't think of any other cats that are named Blue Kit.
00:05:07
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no other cats in the history of the clans were named the Blue Kit. We don't know the whole history. Jericho, what are you You're starting out hating my dear sweet mother? I don't understand. no I am just wondering. just... Okay. Okay.
00:05:28
Speaker
Let me tell you the naming conventions, okay? Most of them, the first part of the name is mostly about how they look, and the second part of the name is mostly about their personality, because they don't know What does Jerica mean? How many people are named fucking Jerica?
00:05:45
Speaker
No one. No. I'm not. I'm just trying to understand. Okay.
00:05:55
Speaker
If you have a baby... Ew. Not you. i don't want a baby. Okay. If a cat has baby. Okay, think about my nephew. I really like him.
00:06:10
Speaker
Okay, if your sister has a baby. Okay. Aw, he's so cute. We thought he was going to be a Lily, but he's a David. Okay.
00:06:21
Speaker
We thought he was a girl. Well, you don't know that for sure. True. Maybe he is a Lily. Yeah. That's a journey that he'll have to take him for himself. Okay. So if you're a cat and you're born and you are have just all black fur. Okay. And they name you Black Kit.
00:06:47
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. And then like six months from now, another cat is born that has all black fur.
00:07:00
Speaker
Are they going to name it Black Kit as well? No, it's not a fucking rule, Jerrica. Okay. I'm just... And besides, if that kit was named Black Kit, there would be no confusion because six moons from now, the original Black Kit is going to be Black Paw.
00:07:20
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And by the time that kit is Black Paw, Black Paw will be... I will have a warrior name. So, and the warrior name, since I said it's based on personality, it's not going to matter.
00:07:38
Speaker
You could have just said, don't worry about it. It's not going to make sense, but it'll be okay. No, like because it does make sense. Not in my head, it doesn't. yeah yeah I'm going to be honest, Jerika. I don't really know what You are bothered by this.
00:08:02
Speaker
I'm just like you you you look at the cat and like and you give them a name based on what they look like. But like lots of cats are going to look the same. Right, so like there's like Mouse Kit because she has the color of a mouse's fur, like a mousy brown.
00:08:20
Speaker
You got Spotted Kit because she's a tortoiseshell cat, which isn't really Spots, but they're cats. They don't know any better. But then you also have a Leopard Kit because...
00:08:33
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She's got kind of the fur of a leopard. So now she doesn't have to be named Spotted Kit. She's good. She gets to be named something else. Okay. I'm just okay. But I was just wondering, and this was more of like a amusing. but How many times, how many kits? It was amusing. Yeah.
00:08:56
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This whole thing to me has been amusing.
00:09:00
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Since they don't keep those names anyway, do they just recycling them? that That's what I was wanting to know. Oh, yeah. Sometimes they're named ah the same thing. Right now, i can think of two cats with the first a word as cherry, which is an unusual one.
00:09:19
Speaker
Okay. Ironically, there are two cats named Freckle-ish, which seems like too much of a unique name to have happened twice. But here we are. Okay, so it took 12 minutes for us to come to the understanding of what the fuck I was trying to ask. Uh-huh, yeah.
00:09:43
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And you know what else is funny is that what if you are... What if you've just had three kids, all right? And they're all white kids. And you're like, fuck, I have to name all these white kids?
00:09:56
Speaker
How am I going to be able to tell them... ah but What if one is in danger? And I'm like, white kit, step away from the ledge. But then another white kit was far away from the ledge and white kit just reacted without thinking and took a step.
00:10:13
Speaker
But this time it was towards the ledge because they were in a different position. And then white kit fell off the ledge.
00:10:23
Speaker
Right. Yeah. So it would have been bad. But that's not the case. You can name one white kit. You can name one snow kit, which ironically is blue kit sister's name. Snow kit.
00:10:38
Speaker
Cause she's white. Okay. So we got blue kit and snow kit. And let me tell you, Jerrica, they are one day old.
00:10:52
Speaker
So they're super tiny and don't have their eyes open. Yes, but well, no, they're super tiny. And for some reason, s Snowkit has her eyes open. And the very first scene is their mother Moonflower talking to another cat about how how come Bluekit hasn't opened her eyes yet.
00:11:15
Speaker
Um, it's been one day, yo. It's been one fucking day. and the other cat is like, well, I'm just saying my kids had opened their eyes by Oh, what a bitch. Yeah. And blue kid in her head is like open my eyes when I'm good and ready. And all I can think of is this motherfucker is one day old. She already understands common and she already can understand.
00:11:42
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have such complex thoughts, like, I get to make my own decisions about things, like when to open my eyes.
00:11:51
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Yeah, that seems... far-fetched. Yeah. So... Well, I had to look it up to make sure, just in case, for anyone who doesn't know, cats usually open their eyes between 8 to 16 days. Yeah, it takes a while. so The fact that they're worried about their eyes not being open on day one of existence is wild.
00:12:19
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Well, yeah, all of these cats are wild. Ayo!
00:12:25
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So, on day two, I guess, she opens her eyes, alright? And they're like, oh my god, you finally opened your eyes!
00:12:36
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ah Yeah, finally! And Blue Kit sees how Snow Kit beautiful bright blue eyes. And she's like, oh, I wonder what color my eyes are. And she, like, wants to look like her mother moonflower. And just immediately she's adorable and perfect, you know? Mm-hmm.
00:12:58
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And they go out and adventure. So again, they're two days old and they're like, I want to go out and explore. And Moonflower's like, okay, but just like, don't leave the camp.
00:13:13
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And so they go out and explore. and immediately Blue Kit is wanting to be in charge and and wanting to do things her own way because Snow Kit is like, hey, ah let's follow the apprentices around. and have them show us around and blue kit is like hell no i'm gonna do this my own way and ditches them wow but snow kit follows her so she only ditches the apprentices okay
00:13:47
Speaker
And they end up in the warrior's den accident because they don't know where anything is. And they bump into a cat and he's like, oh, you silly kids. What are you doing in here? This is for the warriors. But he's kind of like teasing them about it. And we learn that stone pelt. And
00:14:08
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he just tells them to get out, essentially. So, obviously, we're in ThunderClan. Yeah. So ThunderClan has territory.
00:14:22
Speaker
like ah Like every clan, yeah. Yes. But they have a camp? Do they have multiple camps? Nope. Okay, so they just call it camp. Is there a home?
00:14:34
Speaker
Yeah. Okay, a camp sort of by its nature is sort of impermanent.
00:14:44
Speaker
It's not impermanent. It's just like... I mean, what would they call it? A city?
00:14:54
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Home?
00:14:58
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I feel like camp is used just any time you're out in the forest or anything.
00:15:07
Speaker
Unless you have a log cabin. They don't have a log cabin, so that would explain that. know what my problem is today.
00:15:17
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Please continue. It's funny. Okay.
00:15:22
Speaker
They meet Featherwhisker, who is the medicine cat. and well, actually, technically, he's the medicine cat apprentice.
00:15:32
Speaker
Because they kind of just call them apprentices until the other medicine cat dies, which is very strange. There could be only one. One master, one apprentice. Yeah, a that is accurate.
00:15:47
Speaker
They're like the Sith. Okay, you Except the opposite of the Sith, because they heal. And they learn about Goosefeather, who is their uncle, and they also learn that Goosefeather is not very respected.
00:16:03
Speaker
Well, his name is Goosefeather, so... ah Yeah. I don't know. I'm sure that was given to him for a reason. Yeah, I don't know what his parents were thinking when they named him Goosefeather. Well, they named him Goosekit.
00:16:17
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Yeah, like, that was the one they're like, oh, I like this one. Well, that one, that one's a little weird. That one's not gonna, that one might may not make it. And you know what?
00:16:29
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Goosefeather is Moonflower's litter mate. So they liked Moonflower, but they didn't like Goosefeather, guess. Wow. well Because, come on, how are you going to name your kit Moon Kit? Like, these cats are obsessed with silver pelt, which is the stars. The thing that they go and share tongues with StarClan with is called the Moonstone.
00:16:56
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so it's like, okay, here's this sacred name, Moon Kit. And then here's Goose Kit.
00:17:06
Speaker
Maybe they're doing double O's. Oh, yeah, because they're allowed in the Valley of the Green Glass doors now.
00:17:15
Speaker
don't know what that means. I'll tell you about it later. So like Moon Kit and Goose Feather would be allowed in the Valley, but Snow Kit and Blue Kit would not. And I'll tell you why later.
00:17:26
Speaker
Okay.
00:17:30
Speaker
Moonflower gets them all prettied up to meet their father, Stormtail. And he is kind of a douchebag about it because he meets them and he's like, oh, these are my kids, I guess.
00:17:44
Speaker
and well don Yeah, don't don't the don' didn't you say last time that the the the fathers don't really give a shit? At the beginning of the series, they kind of didn't. And then as it went on, they did. it kind of feels like when they wrote the first book, they didn't think there was going to be a whole series. So it kind of feels like they just didn't really worry about the dad because it wasn't necessary. And then as they went on, it's like, okay, well, this cat...
00:18:18
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would clearly care about their kit. So like, let's make them care. exactly. like, and that right yeah exactly so like They care more as the books go on and then stuff like this happens where this book was written six years into the series, but it takes place before the series. So it it seems off because Stormtail gets a lot of shit for not caring about the kits, but also during this era, they just didn't really care about their kits.
00:18:49
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So...
00:18:53
Speaker
But Stormtail makes some comment about how kids should stay in the nursery. And Bluekit... Yeah, Bluekit is really wanting his approval and feels kind of bummed that he doesn't seem to give a shit. And then he's like well, anyway, i have to go eat food with Pynestar.
00:19:21
Speaker
And they want to go with him. They're like, hey, can we hang out? And he's like, oh, that's when he says, uh, kids should stay in the nursery. Einstar is the the leader. Yeah. all right So is... I'm proud of you for knowing that.
00:19:41
Speaker
Well... For remembering. I remember lots of things. There's just a lot of lore about these books. Yeah. Um...
00:19:53
Speaker
Is Yellow, no, not Yellow, Stormtail, is Stormtail the deputy? No, he is a senior warrior, though. Okay, because he's got it's got Tiger Claw and energy.
00:20:09
Speaker
Oh, okay, that's interesting. Sunfall is a deputy. Sunfall? Yeah, which is crazy because i had a cat that I was writing a story about that I also was going to call Sunfall, but I never finished. I couldn't decide between Sunfall and Sunrise.
00:20:32
Speaker
i see. Okay, yeah. yeah So it was it is basically sunset. Yeah. Okay. As Stormtail is walking away, he's like, oh, and also, and Blue Kit gets really excited because she's like, oh, this is it. He's finally going to say something nice about us. And he goes, Stonepalt told me you were in the warrior's den. Stay out of it.
00:20:55
Speaker
And then he walks away.
00:20:58
Speaker
Wow. it So is Moonflower a warrior? Yeah.
00:21:06
Speaker
Because you're either a warrior or you're a queen or you're a medicine cat. Yeah. Or you're an elder. Or an apprentice.
00:21:21
Speaker
Well, as far as like jobs. Well, I don't think being an elder is a job. It's just retirement. Yeah. Like the opposite of a job. Sure. So your your job choices are...
00:21:35
Speaker
Be the nursery and have babies or tend to the babies. Be a medicine cat, but there can only be one at a time.
00:21:49
Speaker
at a time. Well, one and a half. Yeah. ah And then everyone else has to be a warrior. Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:59
Speaker
damn Because if you're not if you're not contributing to your clan, then fuck out of here. That's kind their mindset. there's who like There's other things that people could do.
00:22:14
Speaker
yeah not in their mind. like i guess not.
00:22:21
Speaker
Oh, here it is. I actually wrote down exactly what Stormtail felt. Bluekit asks if they can share prey with him and Pinestar, which is also interesting because why are they eating fresh kill already?
00:22:38
Speaker
Stormtail has a look of alarm and discomfort in his eyes. Hmm. So, Yeah.
00:22:52
Speaker
And also, ah Moonflower had said that they wouldn't be apprentices for another six months. So they definitely do meet him, like, immediately. And yeah, I guess they're already eating fresh kill.
00:23:04
Speaker
Let's see. When does a kitten start to eat Salins? Between five to six weeks. And we're on day two.
00:23:15
Speaker
Yep, we're on day two. These are fast, ah quickly developing cats. Yeah, these aren't no kitty pets.
00:23:26
Speaker
Ayo! Goosefeather comes up and talks to them after and tells them how great Moonflower is, because remember, Moonflower and Ghostfeather. That'd be actually a pretty cool name. Fuck, that'd be a really cool name. ah Moonflower, what? but For like a bird, maybe.
00:23:44
Speaker
oh Like a clan of birds? Yeah, like I'm Ghostfeather. does it run that The white raven or whatever. I don't know. Oh, like from Everon Renewed.
00:24:01
Speaker
okay. Goosefeather tells them that Moonflower is the smartest cat I know about most things and then glares after Stormtail. Yeah.
00:24:18
Speaker
Because he hates Stormtail and he's saying Moonflower not smart. Yeah, because she picked. OK, gotcha. And he says, did the great warrior meet his kids?
00:24:31
Speaker
yeah And um I guess he fucking hates Stormtail.
00:24:37
Speaker
Yeah, I can see that. Moonflower um makes it clear that she is very impressed by Stormtail. And the way she talks about him makes it seem like she's almost like intimidated by him. Like she feels privileged that he chose her as a mate, which is just not healthy.
00:25:00
Speaker
Yeah, I so many different images of
00:25:06
Speaker
relationships that I have seen us like oh yeah this is this is not good yeah because she's always very paranoid about the kids looking bad in front of him and oh gosh yeah like like times like this she's like okay, we got to ready up because your father's coming and like we have to impress him. she doesn't literally say we have to impress him, but like that's obviously what she's going for. um So it's very uncomfortable.
00:25:37
Speaker
Yeah. I can't place... like I know there's a specific relationship like this in media, but I can't click and place it right now. But yeah, i'd like, oh yeah, your father is a great man and whatever. yeah Yeah, exactly.
00:25:56
Speaker
um So Swift Breeze's Kits are born. And one of them is Rose Kit, who is an elder in the first book that we meet her, which doesn't really make sense because she's younger than Bluestar.
00:26:13
Speaker
Hmm. There's a lot of that type of stuff in this book. Maybe it's a different Rose Kit. It's not. ah ah
00:26:25
Speaker
Because she gets her warrior name later and it's the same name. Hmm. ah The other kit, Blue Kit names. yeah Oh, yeah. Swift Breeze lets Blue Kit and Snow Kit name two of them, which is very cute. And what Why? don't know. Just because she's nice.
00:26:48
Speaker
Oh, okay. yeah ah Here are other babies. Name this name name new baby. I have seen memes about this and I know you're going to end up with a baby named like Potato.
00:27:03
Speaker
um But Blue Kit names one of the kits with spiky fur. ah Names him Thistle Kit. You know, because it's like thistles. It spurs like thistles. And then the other kit is named a sweet kit. Okay.
00:27:23
Speaker
They couldn't see you rolling your eyes, but just trust me, Jerrica rolled her eyes.
00:27:30
Speaker
when they're about five moons old, so they're almost apprentices. Blue Kit displays more independence when she goes outside to camp and she's like, I've had enough of this, I'm gonna explore. And Sunfall finds her and does not send her back to camp, but just like helps her.
00:27:48
Speaker
And she's very anti him, like, They're going up a steep ah path and he like tries to help her up and she's like, no, I can do it. And she does manage to do it because she is awesome and perfect.
00:28:04
Speaker
and And Sunfall is just a random person or? He's the deputy. Right. Thank you. who While they're doing this, Sparrow Pelt runs into camp and says that Wynn Clan has been stealing their prey.
00:28:24
Speaker
And everyone obviously is all pissed off, but then some of the cats are like, well, it was close to the border, so like they may have just... this The scent may have drifted across. We don't actually know 100% that WindClan is stealing our prey.
00:28:40
Speaker
We don't want to start a battle and like war over this in case they aren't.
00:28:50
Speaker
And so Pine Star says, okay, well, bring it up at the gathering and let's keep a close eye on the border and like send extra patrols. And little fucking Snow Kit is saying how she thinks they should send a battle patrol. And she says, well, if I was a warrior, I would just go, I would just go shred them.
00:29:17
Speaker
Even though Pined Star said not to, I would take a patrol and I would just go beat the shit out of them. Okay, wow. um Also, I find this whole predilection to just immediately go and attack other clans oh weird because it's like, oh...
00:29:39
Speaker
We're going to attack you, but we're not going to kill any of you because that's wrong. Like, that's that's like yeah the warrior code. But like, we're going to continue to attack you. Like, what the fuck?
00:29:50
Speaker
Yeah. um Yeah, these cats regularly get almost deathly or almost fatally injured. um And then they're somehow surprised when a cat dies, like, from their wounds. And they're like, oh my god, the warrior code said they shouldn't have died. And it's like, well, you live your lives fighting, so.
00:30:13
Speaker
Mm-hmm. But... Moonflower tells Snowkit, she like uses this as a teaching moment, tells her how, no, you need to listen to your leader because the warrior code says that their word is law, they're guided by StarClan, and Snowkit grudgingly says, okay, fine, I wouldn't defy his orders then.
00:30:36
Speaker
good And Pine Star chooses this moment to make Blue Pot or to make Blue Kit and Snow Kit into apprentices.
00:30:50
Speaker
What is this? Day three? This is no we had a little bit of a time jump. So they're about five moons old. Okay. Still too young. Yeah, still too young. And one of the cats even says how, oh, funny how he chooses this moment. It's almost as if he was trying to distract us about how we were pissed that he wouldn't send a battle patrol.
00:31:12
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to Hmm. Interesting. And, uh, Blue Paw gets Stone Pelt as her mentor. no. Yeah, she's She's like, oh, no, not the warrior that I like fell on him in the warrior den. But he is super chill and he likes her and he like winks at her and he's like, that doesn't mean you can come into the warrior's den still.
00:31:42
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And he says it like a teasing way.
00:31:46
Speaker
Okay. Yeah, but he like appreciates how ah like enthusiastic she is about things and how honestly she is ambitious from day one. So.
00:32:00
Speaker
Well, maybe day two because she didn't open her eyes till day two. That's true. ah But Snowpocket Sparrowpelt, who is the one that wanted to go into battle and fight WindClan.
00:32:16
Speaker
Gee, I wonder if that was on purpose. Yeah. um Stormtail comes over and ah says that he's proud of them, which makes Blue Paw just so incredibly happy because her father is finally acknowledging her. Yeah, but but why does she care so much?
00:32:43
Speaker
Because she's a child. That makes sense. ah Yeah. For their first day as apprentices, Snowpaw gets to go off and like explore the forest. But Stonepelt tells Bluepaw, we're going to do something even more important.
00:33:02
Speaker
We're going to gather moss for the elders, for their but ah dens. So she is not very happy that her first whole first day as apprentice is just doing boring looking after the elder duties. But Stonepile tells her like, no, I did this on purpose because I want you to learn that taking care of your clan is the most important thing. It's not battle practice. It's not but ah patrols. It's Like, ah those things are part of taking care of the clan, but what we need to focus on is making sure that everyone is ah taken care of. That's the third time I've said that, so I was trying to think of something else to say. I couldn't and i couldn't do it in time.
00:33:47
Speaker
And he also tells her, well, but you've been learning stuff like how to control your claws when you pull the moss up and precision and dexterity and all that.
00:33:59
Speaker
Oh, like, you know, the Karate Kid, and Mr. Miyagi. Sure, I've never seen that, but I believe you. Oh, well, ah he's training Daniel, but like he has him painting fences and waxing um painting, you know.
00:34:18
Speaker
oh okay. and then then he eventually Daniel's like, what why do you got me um'm you you haven't taught me anything? He's like, no And then he goes and attacks him and he's like, paint the fence. Paint the fence and then he has attack. That's good. Yeah. I'm not sure that quite translates, but that's fine.
00:34:43
Speaker
It does if you watch it and not just listen to me explain it. Yeah. The next day, however, they get to go hunting. And Blue Paw is very proud of her catch because it's like a a huge squirrel. And she catches it as they were going back to camp after not catching anything because, like, it's their first day hunting. so And she gets it right in the last moment. So everyone is like, oh, look at Blue Paw. She caught a squirrel that's bigger than her. Which...
00:35:20
Speaker
It's worth bringing up that in these books, cat sizes are, I'm going to say much different than IRL cat sizes. Because a six-month-old cat in real life is only like a little bit different than full-grown cat. in the books In the books, they talk about how they still have their kit fluff and like they're so tiny and all that. So it's kind of like, a just accept that...
00:35:51
Speaker
they look much younger than a full-grown cat, you know? Which, I mean, obviously, a cat will be able to, like, tell through smell, but they don't describe it through smell. They describe it through physical looks.
00:36:06
Speaker
But what? It's fine. Stonepelt tells her that she's gonna come to the gathering tonight, even though it's only her second day being apprentice, which is very impressive because usually apprentices have to wait. But she sits so close to Moonflower the whole time that it's like all a blur to her. She's so overwhelmed at having...
00:36:26
Speaker
just recently become an apprentice and now meeting cats from the other clans that when she gets back to the camp that night she just like falls into her nest and snowpaw is like tell me about it tell me about it what are the other leaders like what are the other cats like it's no bluepaw is like i i don't know dude just let me sleep but there was a lot going on and
00:36:51
Speaker
She tells her that the pretty much the only thing she remembers is that Pinestar told WynClan to stop stealing prey. And WynClan, of course, denied it because... Yeah, that's how it works.
00:37:04
Speaker
Yeah. The next day, Goosefeather finds a vole in the freshco pile and starts flipping the fuck out because this is a sign from StarClan. One side of the vole's fur is flattened in a different way. And it's a sign saying that WindClan is going to destroy ThunderClan.
00:37:35
Speaker
And the only way to prevent it is to send a battle patrol into WindClan and attack them first. Okay.
00:37:48
Speaker
Okay.
00:37:50
Speaker
Yeah, ah there's a lot of disagreement about this because half the cats are like, Goosefeather is known to be a little crazy. And half the cats are like, see, I told you when clan was ah prey thieves were.
00:38:08
Speaker
When clan were prey thieves, ah we should go fuck them up. So obviously there's a lot of arguing about this. And Pynestar eventually says, okay, we're going to attack at dawn.
00:38:21
Speaker
We will send a ah patrol to attack them because StarClan is telling us to.
00:38:29
Speaker
I...
00:38:34
Speaker
These fucking cats. Uh-huh.
00:38:39
Speaker
the Some of the choices they make just are like, what? Yup. So they're gonna go and what, like, beat up a bunch of cats and then come back home? Like, wait what what is that gonna prove?
00:38:51
Speaker
Yeah, so the thought is that, okay, we're gonna go and we're gonna find a patrol and we're gonna give them a bunch of injuries that they are gonna remember forever. Until Goosefeather comes back out and says, okay, StarClan has spoken to me. We have to go destroy their medicine supply.
00:39:13
Speaker
Oh, that's a little different. Yes. And so now everyone is like, well, hold up. We just want to beat the shit out of them. We don't want to, like, you know, kill them or anything. They're like, wait, because the warrior code says not to injure kits. It says kits should, no matter what clan they're from, we can't injure kits. And destroying their medicine supply with leaf bear coming is gonna do a lot of damage to their kits and elders, and we don't attack kits and elders.
00:39:47
Speaker
And... it It does not matter because that's what StarClan has said, supposedly. Okay, well. And not only that, but Blue Paw and Snowpaw are going to despite having learned no battle moves.
00:40:08
Speaker
But they're going to go and they're going to hang out with Swift Breeze away from the battle and essentially go in and grab cats that got injured and pull them out.
00:40:19
Speaker
So they're not they're not supposed to be involved in the fighting, but they are in the battle. Wow.
00:40:28
Speaker
um In the battle, a cat gets injured and Swift Breeze takes Blue Paw in to help get her out. Somehow they get separated and The medicine cat of WindClan, Hawkheart, sees Blue Paw and is like, oh, they're bringing kits into battle now?
00:40:52
Speaker
and obviously Blue Paw is very offended by this and, you know, fiercely is growling and hissing and saying, I'm an apprentice. And Hawkheart is like, okay, then I can attack you. and goes to attack her, but then is called away because some cat got injured.
00:41:12
Speaker
Blue Paw watches Stormtail fighting with Dappletail, who's only been in a ah warrior for one moon. And they are... It seems like Stormtail is like... a little bit later, Moonflower comes racing out of the Medicine Cat den, being chased by Hawkheart.
00:41:35
Speaker
And...
00:41:39
Speaker
Hawkheart was a warrior before he was a medicine cat, which is unusual but sometimes happens. um People get their full warrior name and they're like,
00:41:50
Speaker
So they know how to battle, they know how to hunt, but then they're all like, oh, I got called by StarClan to be Medicine Cat instead. So that's the situation with Hawkheart. Hawkheart grabs Moonflower and bites into her throat. and she is trying to scramble away. And he essentially...
00:42:16
Speaker
Just has no mercy towards her. And... um As Blue Paw is watching... a Murders Moonflower.
00:42:28
Speaker
Damn. And Blue Paw... Thinks... Okay, I just saw Stormtail close by. he will come rescue Blueflower?
00:42:39
Speaker
But Stormtail is just worried about fighting with Dabletail. So he doesn't even know what's going on. And...
00:42:51
Speaker
It's a very... um It's very graphic... Not graphic in the in, like, gory terms, but graphic in, like, it does not hold back any of the emotion that Blue Paw is feeling. And... It's a bit too realistic, because it's too sad.
00:43:15
Speaker
um Well, because... ah Blue Paw... Well, a Pine Star calls for a retreat. They've lost the battle. ah They to get out of here. So all the cats stop fighting. And then Blue Paw is like, okay, well, good. Now I can go to Moonflower and make sure she's okay. Because Blue Paw is in denial.
00:43:41
Speaker
and they describe like, oh, her eyes are like half closed and like her head is flopping around when they like move her. Yeah. so ah it's really hard to read because um I'm just like this child ah is watching her mom die. And then in the scenes after they just,
00:44:11
Speaker
this Blue Pop becomes, like, numb over it which, you know, is a common reaction. Yeah. um They bring her back to camp. They bring Moonflower's body back.
00:44:23
Speaker
And they, like, put a bunch of herbs on her to make her... Like, they're they're doing a burial ritual, essentially. And Blue Paw's theory is that they're making her... They're trying to make her seem like she's not dead, and they're taking her scent away, and... um It's really rough...
00:44:43
Speaker
I also hate that in funerals. but So it was a really rough thing to read. i hate when they like put makeup on people and stuff when they're not. They don't usually wear makeup. And I don't, it just, it's so uncanny. Like, so, so it was tough to read when I'm like, I know what this situation is other than like, obviously it's not my mom, but like,
00:45:07
Speaker
people who I care about and I'm being pissed off about it. so So yeah. um And this is a start of Blue Paws difficult time, which is also hard to read about because there are some more time skips, just like a few moons, it seems like.
00:45:32
Speaker
Snowpaw is mostly moving on from it. i
00:45:41
Speaker
Not even in a disrespectful way either. Just like it seems like a healthier way than Bluepaw because Bluepaw is clinging to it. Which makes sense because Bluepaw saw it happen. Yeah, that's the best drama right there.
00:45:55
Speaker
And she...
00:45:57
Speaker
and she is out hunting with some of the apprentices. There's this apprentice, Lionpaw, who we met in book one as Lionheart.
00:46:10
Speaker
But he's an apprentice now. And he's just like this cheerful, happy guy. And she's just pissed that he's happy. Just three no reason. Just like she's pretty much internally. She's just like, yeah, shut up, Lionpaw. I don't care. She's snapping at Snowpaw.
00:46:26
Speaker
She's been given Sunfall as a mentor instead of Stonepelt because Stonepelt got injuries during the battle and moved to the Elder's Den. So, i mean, that's a significant change in her life, too, that she has to get used to. Mm-hmm.
00:46:41
Speaker
And she can't stand Sunfall because she feels like he treats her like a kit. Like, Stonepelt mostly let her fail at things and learn from them. But Sunfall is gives too much instruction, essentially.
00:46:55
Speaker
who Like, she'll do something wrong and he's like, oh no, what did we do wrong there? And she's like, I know what I did wrong, leave me alone. I'm She gets in an argument with the apprentices and then like snaps at them and turns away. And as she's leaving, she hears Snowpaw say to one of the other cats, oh, sorry about her. She's just in one of her moods.
00:47:20
Speaker
Oh, no. Yeah. Like, so.
00:47:27
Speaker
That's going to make you feel a lot worse. Yeah.
00:47:32
Speaker
And Blue Paw is furious, obviously, because she's like, what do you mean one of my moods? Like, life doesn't matter anymore.
00:47:41
Speaker
Essentially. Damn. Yeah. And um she displays some really, like, self-destructive behavior during this time period. Like, at one point, I think it's during this scene, I think. um So she's going off her own. She finds a fox den And she just, like, stands at the mouth of it, ready to fight this fox.
00:48:11
Speaker
Okay. And Sunfall finds her like and pulls her away from it. And he's like, what the hell are you doing? And she's like, I'm not I'm not doing anything bad. Leave me alone. And he's like, what did you think you were going to fight a fox on your own? You were going to get killed. Think of Snowpaw. How would Snowpaw feel if her sister got killed right after her mom got killed? And Bluepaw is just kind of not hearing any of it.
00:48:43
Speaker
And Sunfall kind of pisses me off at this part. Because i feel like none of these cats are understanding at all of why Blue Paw is feeling how she feels. And I understand that these are cats that fight and battle all the time and they live their life with death and sadness.
00:49:08
Speaker
But they don't they just don't give any... They don't give Blue Paw the proper support she needs, which again, I understand that they're cats, but it's really hard to read.
00:49:19
Speaker
let me just read you this whole quote from Sunfall. It's kind of long, it helps with understanding. it really it helps with understanding What I'm talking about here. So he says,
00:49:31
Speaker
we each have to do our best to provide for the klan but as far as i can tell you're not even trying you act like everything's a chore you scrape through your assessment that i know you can do better sometimes i feel like i'm wasting my time trying to teach you you're so bad-tempered with your clanmates they're starting to avoid you and now when every cat needs to try the hardest you hunt as though your mind's filled with starling feathers and your paws are made of stone why should your clanmates look after you if you won't do the same for them I am.
00:50:00
Speaker
Yeah. So I can see the point he's trying to make that they're essentially in a life or death situation every day because they need to hunt for their food or they're going to die. And Blue Paw needs to be contributing to that. But it has been less than six moons because they are still apprentices.
00:50:19
Speaker
b Blue Paw ah starts... Whatever the closest a cat is to being able to cry, ah it's essentially cat crying over that, over what he says to her. And he softens up a bit and says, oh, I know you miss Moonflower. And it's like, yeah, dude, you could have led with that.
00:50:41
Speaker
Like, you could have led with having some fucking empathy for her instead of telling her that she's a burden to her clan and everyone hates her.
00:50:53
Speaker
So Sunfall is acknowledging that Moonflower's moonflower's death is has been traumatic for her, but she died defending her clan as a warrior should. And Blue Paw is pissed off about this because she's like, no, she didn't die defending her clan though. She died doing a useless mission that Gooseflower put us on. She died for nothing.
00:51:19
Speaker
Which, I mean, she did. How does Goosefeather about
00:51:27
Speaker
feel about this We have not seen any display of regret from Goosefeather. No. Yeah. And Moonflower was his sister. Yeah.
00:51:42
Speaker
That he apparently really liked, so... Yeah. But they have this chat and Sunfall tells her to focus more on her training, or to try to focus on more on her training. And it's coming from a place of wanting her to feel better when he says concentrate on things other than Moonflower. But it's just is clearly not the way to go about it because Blue Paw is like, no, fuck you. Moonflower is the only thing that matters right now. She's not just something to be forgotten. Mm-hmm.
00:52:17
Speaker
ah But, um... Oh, and Sunflower tells her, I'm taking you to the gathering tonight, though I'm not sure if you deserve it.
00:52:30
Speaker
Hell, man. Yeah, uh... Yeah. Why are all the deputies dicks? I know, and it's like, at times I really like Sunfall, and at times I fucking hate him. Ha ha ha ha.
00:52:45
Speaker
After this conversation, though, Blue Paw kind of thinks about what he says. And for the first time in moons, she feels like a weight has been lifted. So it has been a few moons since Moonflower died.
00:53:01
Speaker
they go to the gathering. Blue Paw meets Crooked Paw, who is over six moons old, but still an apprentice, which comes up in another book.
00:53:13
Speaker
Yeah, don't we know... that Doesn't... That's Crooked Fang, right? Crooked That's what I said.
00:53:24
Speaker
Oh,
00:53:28
Speaker
Uh, yeah, that's the the leader of ShadowClan. That's the leader of RiverClan? Fuck! yeah We don't see him very much, honestly, throughout the books.
00:53:41
Speaker
so Hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay. Okay. Oh, was it... who is then Who was the original leader of ShadowClan that got ousted? Brokenstar.
00:53:54
Speaker
And then they were replaced by... Nightstar.
00:54:01
Speaker
Who does have a black belt. Um...
00:54:06
Speaker
Yeah, so she meets Crooked Paw, and honestly, their exchange is adorable. They won't shut the fuck up during the whole gathering. They have multiple cats telling them to shut up, and they just keep, like, commenting to each other, and Their back and forth seems very flirtatious to me, and I kind of ship them together. Because at first, so Crooked Paw has a crooked jaw, and Blue Paw is surprised by this and is like pretty rude about it. like She's staring and stuff, and Crooked Paw is trying to have a positive...
00:54:40
Speaker
um, reaction to it until she does it for a little bit too long. And then he looks pretty crestfallen and is like, Oh, I knew people would stare. And blue paws like, no, i'm like, I'm so sorry. You know, I just, um, you're really big to be an apprentice. And it just like took me off guard. And he's like, yeah, my training was held back. My brother Oak heart is a warrior for now.
00:55:05
Speaker
Right. and he looks her up and down and he's like, you don't look very blue. And she's like, well, I. Oh, she says, well, I look more blue in the daylight. And then he says, yeah, your warrior name will probably be blue for and mine will probably be crooked jaw. Yeah.
00:55:34
Speaker
Warriors in these books are often named about their disfigurements, and it's not um it's not cool. Because we got Half-Tail, we got Broken Tail, we got ah Crooked Jaw, he does become. We got One-Eye.
00:55:53
Speaker
it's It's a lot. And Yellowfang... right yeah There is a funny exchange where Crooked Paw says, oh, Oakheart wants to be a leader one day, and he said he could make me deputy, which we know from reading the other books, Crooked Star is the deputy with Oakheart as his, or sorry, Crooked Star is the leader with Oakheart as his deputy.
00:56:22
Speaker
Ragged Pelt is announced as the ShadowClan deputy, um which we know he becomes Ragged Star, the father of the horrible Broken Star. The next day, the apprentices go out to train, and it's super obvious now that Snowpaw and Thistlepaw are crushing on each other.
00:56:42
Speaker
And Thistlepaw is kind of a dick, so Bluepaw not excited about it. He's a little bit bloodthirsty. um Which Bluestar seems totally oblivious to how Snowpaw is also a little bloodthirsty.
00:56:59
Speaker
I feel like the... How this is framed is that Snow... Not even that. A lot of the fans, I feel like, see Snowpaw as like... This...
00:57:15
Speaker
pure angelic cap because she's blue pause sister. Um, but she's kind of bloodthirsty blue pot, Nick's golden pause ear and like gives her, ah she starts like bleeding and stuff. And blue pause like, Oh, I'm so sorry. Cause it's just a training session and they're not supposed to do that. But golden pause, like super psyched about it.
00:57:37
Speaker
She's like, cause she's like, Oh, this is so cool. Battle practice. And when they get back, Yeah, when they get back to camp, her mother, Speckletail, is like, my god, my beautiful baby! Who did this to her? And Blue Paw's like, oh, I'm sorry. And Speckletail's like, this is gonna scar! You've marred her perfect appearance! And Goldenpaw is just like, woohoo! My first battle scarred! I haven't even been in a battle yet! my gosh. Goldenpaw and Lionpaw are very cute. They're siblings, so...
00:58:12
Speaker
Does Goldenpaw become Golden Axe?
00:58:18
Speaker
No, she becomes Goldenflower. It was a very bad joke that maybe one person will get. yeah I don't get it. There's a game called Golden Axe. Oh, okay.
00:58:31
Speaker
Well, to you one person, hell yeah. And it's that person in the future, probably. Yeah. RiverClan is taking over Sunning Rocks. stood it a done Again?
00:58:46
Speaker
i know. this is a battle that happens over and over. It's known that they keep fighting over it and all that. ah But Snowpaw and Bluepaw...
00:58:59
Speaker
fight heroically side by side in this battle and blue paw sees crooked paw and she's like oh thank god it's just crooked paw but he's like oh no no we're enemies now like the gathering is over now we're in battle and yeah attacks them but between snowpaw and blue paw they manage to fight him off and They win the battle, but Adderfang comments that it won't be the end.
00:59:27
Speaker
RiverClan is going to fight for the rocks again at some point. And BluePaw wonders if being a warrior is just fighting over and over and over. Because ah it is, is the answer. yeah
00:59:42
Speaker
I just realized something. What?
00:59:47
Speaker
Crooked Paw becomes Crooked Star, the leader of RiverClan. Yeah. Blue Paw becomes Blue Star, the leader of ThunderClan. Yeah.
01:00:00
Speaker
It's interesting. Yeah. Crooked Paw has his own edition, so that'll be fun. It's a really good book and a really infuriating book. His mother's a bitch.
01:00:15
Speaker
Who is also called Rainflower. lot flowers. i mean... only so much out the forest. That's true. um Yeah, some of the names get buck wild later on.
01:00:31
Speaker
One day on patrol, Blue Paw chases a squirrel into Two Leg Place on accident, and she meets a cat called Jake. And while she... she i don't think she ever speaks to Jake, but Jake is like talking to her, trying to be friends. And Pine Star...
01:00:50
Speaker
Pine Star finds them and is pissed at Blue Paw for it. And Blue Paw's like, why was he so angry? Like, I get that I went a little bit out of our territory, but i didn't go into a different clan's territory. Like, it was not that big of a deal.
01:01:08
Speaker
She doesn't catch any food that or any fresh kill that day. And because of that, they send her out again at dawn. Because, yeah, they got to they gotta to catch stuff.
01:01:22
Speaker
Um... Snowpaw offers to go out with her, so they both go out, they chase a rabbit down into its burrow, which they are not supposed to do because they're never supposed to go underground to go after the prey because, like, if they go after a rabbit, it's going to, like, claw their eyes out when they don't have any room to move around. Right.
01:01:42
Speaker
But they go down to the burrow anyway, and they're like, uh-oh, this isn't a rabbit burrow. It's a So they get out the other side, and a fox attacks them, and It's kind of confusing the setup at this point. I've like reread this passage and I was like, I still don't really understand what's going on. But somehow they end up right outside of camp. Blue Paw or no, Snowpaw runs into camp because she's trying to get away from the fox. Blue Paw turns and fights the fox.
01:02:20
Speaker
Because she's Blue Paw. But lightning strikes a tree next to her. And the tree branch falls down. And the fox like runs off. Because it's the branch is on fire And Sunfall like grabs her and pulls her away from the flaming branch. Because she's just staring at it. Because that's what Blue Paw does sometimes. Just...
01:02:47
Speaker
stand still while danger is happening to her. um she like, she, her, her fight or flight is to just freeze.
01:03:00
Speaker
It's neither. Yeah. Um, goose feather has an omen about what just happened. Oh boy. Here we go again.
01:03:13
Speaker
He tells Blue Paw, you are fire, Blue Paw, and you will break blaze through the forest. But beware, even the most powerful flames can be destroyed by water. Okay.
01:03:29
Speaker
ah Blue Paw is obviously very shaken by this. And she pulls Snowpaw aside and tells her about it. And she's like, what do you think this means? Like, am i going to become leader someday, do you think? Or do you think Goose Feather is just crazy? And Snowpaw is like, no, Goose Feather is just crazy. Anyway, let me tell you about Thistlepaw.
01:03:48
Speaker
I like him a lot. but And Blue Paw is upset about that because like, okay, I'm trying to tell you about this prophecy that our medicine cat just gave me, but yeah, bring up Thistle Paw instead.
01:04:07
Speaker
They're finally made into warriors. We have Blue Fur and Snow Fur, so I guess, I don't know, they're both furs. It's very creative. um Bluefur, her warrior name was originally going to be Bluestone, but the errands decided that that's too close to the Moonstone. At the time, they wanted to avoid anything that was like had like moon in the name, but then obviously they named her mom Moonflower, so they kind of abandoned that. But yeah, she's Bluefur, which...
01:04:44
Speaker
I think she's cooler than that name and deserved a better name, but whatever. Yeah, it's like, you are blue fur. I'm like, well, yes, but when what are you naming me? Right, and I mean, the same with snow fur. Like, oh, your fur is the color of snow.
01:05:04
Speaker
I've seen someone online say her name should be Snowstorm because she has a personality of a storm, which I like very much because my warrior name as a child was Snowstorm.
01:05:18
Speaker
We didn't introduce ourselves that way. Yeah, I know. They are scolded the next morning because they slept in late. And Sunfall is like, hey, if you're warriors, you got to be on time for shit.
01:05:33
Speaker
Jerika, they keep a vigil where they stay up all night. So they didn't sleep at all the night before. That's why they slept in.
01:05:45
Speaker
If you're going to be a warrior, like, they didn't really have much of a choice here. Right. They... i they get told that they're going to escort Feather Whisker to gather herbs because I've been seeing a lot of kitty pets around Two Leg Place. that Throughout this whole book, they make a big deal about the kitty pets being more active.
01:06:08
Speaker
And ah it's kind of confusing because, well, they're just kitty pets. Who cares? Just scare them off. then Well, guess it makes sense because if they're stealing prey when they're not there, that would be bad. But i don't know.
01:06:22
Speaker
But while they're out gathering herbs, Blue First sees Pine Star talking to Jake and she's like, oh, he's going to like scare him off. Right. But no, they're just like chatting. And she's like, well, that's really weird because he was super pissed at me for being near Jake. But now he's talking to him. It doesn't make any sense.
01:06:42
Speaker
But she doesn't interfere because she's like, that's my leader. You know, I'm just going to pretend I didn't see anything. At the gathering, Bluefur meets a Crooked Paw again, except he's Crooked John now.
01:06:55
Speaker
Wait, I thought you said that it was supposed to be more about personality when they get their warrior names. Yeah, that's why it's kind of horrible when they name them for their disfigurements.
01:07:08
Speaker
But then again, it's Graystripe, so I don't know. Yeah, i I think later on they do a lot more personality based and early on it's a lot more just there are a lot of pelts and tails and furs.
01:07:25
Speaker
Yeah. Like we had dust pelt. Yeah, bramble pelt. um ThunderClan is a little confused at the gathering because all of the leaders generally agree that there have been there's been too much kittypet activity and they've been taking prey. And Pine Star was like...
01:07:47
Speaker
Yeah, and we're increasing patrols ah to keep out any outside cats that aren't supposed to be here. And kind of, like, glares at the ShadowClan leader. And so, like, the ShadowClan cats are, like, offended because they're like, well we haven't been taking our prey. And the ThunderClan cats are confused because they're like, we haven't seen them taking our prey.
01:08:12
Speaker
yeah. The next day, Pinestar takes her to visit the Moonstone because this is a journey that each apprentice is supposed to take just so they can like see more of the world and all that. But they neglected to do that for her and Snowpaw. They don't take Snowfur because Pinestar says they have to cross WindClan territory and tensions are high. So they're less likely to see two cats as like an invasion than three cats.
01:08:43
Speaker
I guess there's some sense in that. Yeah. There's also a scene where the WindClan patrol does see them and Pine Star says, you know, we're going to the Moonstone, which they have a right to do And WindClan cats kind of like push them around a little bit. There's not a fight, but they're like talking down at them and everything. And Blue Star is like, I would never let ah cats talk to me like that if I was a leader, which is...
01:09:12
Speaker
You know, just funny because it's like, obviously we've seen situations like that and you cannot start a fight every time a cat talks down to you if you're a leader.
01:09:23
Speaker
At the Moonstone, Hindstar as the leader is supposed to have dreams by touching his nose to the Moonstone. But Bluefur also has a dream, which is very unusual because normally only leaders of medicine cats get dreams. But I think...
01:09:41
Speaker
They want... And Fireheart. Yeah. Fireheart is very special for being able to do it. So I think that Bluefur is getting dreams because she's going to be leader someday. i don't think they were trying to imply that she has a special connection to StarClan. But she has dreams of drowning and she smells the scent of moonflower.
01:10:09
Speaker
And, um, yeah, it's not fun for her. At some point, RiverClan moves the borders back and says Sunning Rocks is ours again because there's just always fighting over Sunning Rocks. Um, the cats, some of the cats on patrol are arguing about it and they're like, oh, we should be taking that back. Why is Pine Star not fighting for it?
01:10:32
Speaker
And... Thrush Pelt, which is a cat who's been very friendly towards blue fur, says um it doesn't really matter that much because they're more about like a place to chill than a place for that's valuable for prey.
01:10:50
Speaker
And Thistlepaw argues that in Greenleaf it doesn't matter, but what about in Leafbear when we're so short on prey, to which Bluefur just thinks, oh, shut up, you're only saying that because your mentor thought it. You don't think that deeply about things. Yeah.
01:11:08
Speaker
The rest of the patrol moves on and Blue Star lingers a little bit and sees Oak Heart coming way too close to the border. And she cusses him out. And he's just like super chill about it. And he's he's kind of amused about her being angry. Which is supposed to be flirtatious, but infuriates me. Because I don't think it's funny when people think it's funny that I'm pissed off.
01:11:33
Speaker
Yeah. So, yeah. I... I don't like that part. um Back at camp, Leopardfoot is giving birth to Kits, and they are Pinestar's Kits, which is, i don't know, also kind of weird because she was an apprentice a newly made apprentice at the beginning of this, and Pinestar was already leader, so...
01:12:01
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Ew. Yeah, it's kind of weird. Like, obviously, them being cats, they're going to be massive age gaps because, like, when you think about it, like, okay, well, two-year-old cat and a 10-year-old cat, they're both just adult cats, right? yeah But sometimes it's just weird. Yeah.
01:12:23
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Yeah. um I think it's mostly weird if they start making it a thing when the cat is still an apprentice because it's like, well, that's a child.
01:12:39
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Yeah, then we get into grooming and not the not the way we want to here. Exactly. So I guess, I don't know, maybe it's not too weird because we didn't really see any of that, but I don't know.
01:12:52
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but It's weird to me. But there are two she kits and a tom, but the birthing was very hard, so the kits are very, very weak. And one of the kits, we don't get names for the two she kits, ah but the tom is called Tiger Kit.
01:13:11
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Oh boy. Bluefur notices that Pynestar has been sneaking off an awful lot and she is suspicious that he is going to meet with Jake, the kitty pet. Only she can't figure out why because he's clan leader. Why is he going off to chat with a kitty pet?
01:13:33
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Yeah. Of the same sex.
01:13:38
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That's just Weird, right? who Who would do that? Yeah. ah Oh my god. So how how many fanfics have there been about this? Oh, odd probably a lot. I'm not going to look it up right now, but probably a lot.
01:13:55
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right I'll get into it more later, but yeah, people see them as a couple. There's a fight with a dog while they're out hunting and Thistlepaw finally gets his warrior name, Thistleclaw. And after the ceremony, Pynestar ominously says to the whole clan, thank you, all of you.
01:14:19
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And then goes into his den and Blufur is like, that was kind of weird. It is kind of weird. And then there's a fight with RiverClan, and... Because they're trying to expand their territory even more. And Pinestar wasn't there for the battle, and everyone's like, the fuck is this dude? Where is he? And then after the battle, he finally shows up, and he says, oh, actually, um I am not going to be your leader anymore.
01:14:52
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i have, I'm on my last life. I have served you for eight of my lives. I don't like the battle. We're always fighting. I'm going to go be a kittypet with Jake now.
01:15:05
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my gosh.
01:15:08
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And is pissed about it, obviously, because they hate kitty pets. And he makes some comment, which is like, well, I won't be surprised if they change the warrior code to scorn the easy life of a kitty pet, which they do. and Leopardfoot is like, well, hold on.
01:15:32
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ah Because you have your kits here. you're You're just going to leave me with these kits? You're not going to watch them grow up or anything? And Pine Star is like, nope.
01:15:45
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Cool.
01:15:47
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cool Mm-hmm. he says goodbye to them, and the she-kits are just kind of laying there with glazed look in their eyes because they're so, like, sickly. And Tiger Kit just growls at Pine Star. 100%. He went to live with Jake because they're in love.
01:16:11
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who Yeah, so they're definitely gay, and since this doesn't come up in the main series, this never comes up. I'm just going to tell you now.
01:16:23
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It's mentioned in one of the graphic novels, but it's not a big, like, spoiler for it. They just mention it offhand. Jake is the father a Fireheart.
01:16:35
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Whoa! Uh-huh. Whoa!
01:16:40
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So Jake is bisexual. That's what that means. Well, obviously, Pine Star is too. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we got a lot of bisexual cats.
01:16:52
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That just makes me think of Brokeback Mountain. I never seen that. So, dear listener... We're going to split this up into two parts because super additions are very long.
01:17:06
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01:17:23
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01:17:37
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01:17:45
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01:17:56
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