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1.11 The Darkest Hour Part 1
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Our nerd Fireheart has become the mighty Firestar. Can he handle the pressure? What does this new ominous prophecy mean? Tigerstar loves making trouble in the forest, and Firestar seems to be the only cat willing to stand up against him…
ThunderClan's darkest hour is upon them, as Tigerstar's quest for power plunges the forest into terrible danger. In order to save his Clan and his friends, Firestar must uncover the meaning of an ominous proclamation from StarClan:"Four will become two.Lion and tiger will meet in battle,and blood will rule the forest."The time has come for prophecies to unfold, and for heroes to rise...
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Introduction to 'Never Grow Up' Podcast
00:00:09
Speaker
This is Never Grow Up, a show where two grown-ass adults discuss their love of middle-grade fiction. I'm one of your
Wrapping up the First Arc of Warriors Series
00:00:15
Speaker
hosts, Laura. And I'm your other host. And my name is Jerrica.
00:00:21
Speaker
It is Jerika. This is a thing that I know to be true. and we have such a a great conclusion to the first arc of the Warriors. sir Wait, this is the conclusion? Uh-huh.
00:00:38
Speaker
Oh, no! There are six books in every arc, and this is number six, The Darkest Hour. so we're goingnna we're going to leave off on a sad note.
00:00:50
Speaker
What, like after this book? Yeah. Because it's called The Darkest Hour? Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. I mean,
Firepaw's Importance in the Clan
00:00:58
Speaker
the saddest thing in the whole world happened last time with Blue Star dying, so.
00:01:05
Speaker
You know, you know, I'm not going to shit on people you like, but I just don't get it. but She, Everett, like... Everything she's done has just been like,
00:01:17
Speaker
ah Okay? She took Firepaw into the clan, and you think that was a bad idea?
00:01:28
Speaker
Well...
00:01:32
Speaker
I guess we'll see, won't we? Oh, okay. I mean, i feel like already he's had a big paw in saving the entire clan, so... No, I mean...
00:01:45
Speaker
Of course I like Fireheart. Like, we all like Fireheart. And he, without him, we wouldn't have fuck-ass Cloudtail in there. Well, and without him, we wouldn't have a story at all, so. Exactly.
Warriors' Publication and Personal Anecdotes
00:02:00
Speaker
Wow. I think without him, probably ThunderClan would have died, which may be the point of the Fire Alone Can Save Your Clan.
00:02:09
Speaker
I think that that probably is the idea that they have. Mm-hmm. So this book was published in October of 2004. So this book was essentially published for my 10th birthday. um It's like an homage to me, you know? Damn.
00:02:30
Speaker
You're lucky. And I wasn't even reading them at the time, so... Sometimes you don't appreciate a gift until later. Exactly. But they knew I would want it, so... Yeah, those errands, they're pretty smart.
00:02:42
Speaker
I didn't start reading these until the third series. Isn't that crazy? Did you start to third on the third series? No. Okay. just Listen, i'm just you were young, right?
00:02:56
Speaker
Oh, Jerka, you will insult me. Even when I was young, I knew to find the first book in a series. Well, all right. I didn't know you when you were young, so. Unlike someone I knew who did start on the fucking second series for some reason.
00:03:19
Speaker
Yeah, that's
Tigerstar and Scourge's Alliance
00:03:20
Speaker
kind of crazy. And then she went back to read the first series and was like, oh my god, it's Fireheart. The cat I've heard so much about.
00:03:29
Speaker
Because he's not the point of view of the other series. Oh. We get new point of views. That's a little spoiler. Is it?
00:03:40
Speaker
i just want you to i want i want you to enjoy the last point of view with Fireheart. that's That's completely fair. Like, I want you to cherish
00:03:55
Speaker
it. Okay, now that you say it that way, it makes it sound like he's going to die. i mean, eventually, yes. I won't tell you if he does or not.
00:04:07
Speaker
Now I'm wondering, oh no, what if but if he doesn't think end up going to the the Moonstone to get his lives? I'm sure. Okay. You know what? Let's just, yeah, let's find out.
00:04:19
Speaker
ah So this one was written by Cherith Baldry. um And it starts out with fucking Tigerstar in Two Leg Place. God damn this dude. And he is traveling with another cat called Boulder, who is a rogue who had joined ShadowClan, who we met in the previous book.
00:04:45
Speaker
and they're like walking through this alley and there are a bunch of ah intimidating cats passing that or at they're passing a bunch of intimidating cats. And it's like, you know, a whole mood of something sinister is going on Wait, they're in a two leg place. And are they kitty pets or are they they other they rogues? They're well...
00:05:12
Speaker
You'll find out in like five seconds. Oh, ok sorry and that's okay. it's okay. Boulder takes Tigerclaw to meet a teeny tiny cat called
BloodClan's Unique Traits and Leadership
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Speaker
Scourge. This little cat is... Scourge? Oh, boy. Scourge is a very small cat, a teeny tiny cat with one white paw, and then they emphasize his ice blue eyes.
00:05:39
Speaker
But he's also wearing a collar. He's wearing a purple collar. And Tigerstar realizes that it has teeth piercing through the collar. it has dog teeth in it.
00:05:53
Speaker
Damn. Yeah, so it's essentially a spiked collar, except the spikes are dog teeth. So this little this little cat, don't fuck with him.
00:06:04
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Tigerstar has a proposal for him. If Scourge will help him take over the forest, along with his cats of BloodClan...
00:06:21
Speaker
ah oh what the fuck? then Tigerstar will give him a share of the forest. So it will Tigerstar's clan and Bloodclan ruling the whole forest.
00:06:39
Speaker
So wait, so Bloodclan is this clan of rogues? Uh-huh. And they don't follow the warrior code. They sure don't.
00:06:51
Speaker
Then their leader doesn't get nine lives, so that's kind of a shitty... I love that you immediately realized that um because it does take Fireheart quite some time too.
00:07:07
Speaker
Our poor, poor idiot orange cat. I will not say how until we get to it but that it is a huge revelation to him later on in the book.
00:07:21
Speaker
Listen, he's an
Personal Cat Stories and Future Pet Plans
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orange cat. Like, it's not his fault. They're all a little dumb. I, like... This post on TikTok has been going around that's like, everyone with two cats has the fucking dumbass and then the maniacal genius and Fireheart is the dumbass.
00:07:46
Speaker
I don't think that's true because i'm looking at I look at my cats, well...
00:07:53
Speaker
Oh, man. I don't think it's true either. It's just funny. Might be true. Well, when my sister had two cats, there was one who was like an evil idiot and one who is like a standoffish.
00:08:13
Speaker
I definitely don't want your attention, but yes, I do want your attention type.
00:08:21
Speaker
so That's, yeah. Yeah. Like, she would get irritated with us so easily, but then she slept in my bed almost every night. It was actually really cute. At one time, she was sleeping between my legs, and I woke up in the middle of the night and tried to roll over, but there was, like, I couldn't for some reason, you know? I was like, what's going on? And so I just, like, jerked to the side, I just straight up, like, threw her across the room.
00:08:50
Speaker
When I heard the the, like, grunt and the thump of her landing, I immediately woke up fully, and I was like, no, I'm so sorry! She's just like glaring at you. still She looked shocked. Like, what the fuck have you done? How how dare you?
00:09:09
Speaker
The audacity. But then I got my kitty, so she stopped sleeping with me, which honestly was kind of sad because I was like, no, I love my kitty. But like, you know, I liked when her name was Egypt would sleep with me.
00:09:24
Speaker
Yeah. The more kitties, the better. hmm.
00:09:29
Speaker
When Janine and I eventually move in together, we're going to have a total of five cats. Fuck. And that's... That's a lot of cats. We definitely would need to get a king bed because we'll not fit all of those in there.
00:09:45
Speaker
And you could get a big dog, too, with that king bed. yeah No. I don't think you like dogs. I like dogs just fine. Mm-hmm. Same with Janelle. She loves dogs, but we we just don't... It's the taking
Fireheart's Ascension to Firestar
00:10:02
Speaker
care of the dogs. that's We don't quite have the time Well, you got take care of your cats too?
00:10:08
Speaker
Yes, but the effort is so much lower. Make sure the water full. the emotional effort. That's the same. But the... What?
00:10:20
Speaker
How...
00:10:22
Speaker
Fuck, can't think what call it. I have no idea what you were trying to say. Okay. They take the same emotional amount of time, but not the same actual caring for, like, the physical needs. Yeah.
00:10:36
Speaker
Okay, so that was the prologue, and...
00:10:41
Speaker
Blood clan, okay. Yeah. We... So... I've got so many questions, I am so sorry. just keep No, no, just go. Go ask the questions. So, they call them if they call them themselves Blood Clan, does that mean that they the majority of them came from other clans?
00:11:00
Speaker
So that is what's very confusing to me and has been confusing since 2007. I don't know why they call themselves Blood Clan, so they never explain that part. oh Because i don't think they came from the clan. Oh my god. Blood Clan Super Edition would be amazing.
00:11:23
Speaker
holy fuck i want that yeah well better write the air the errands yeah i might go fucking tell her or um what is the publisher harper collins or collins i'm gonna if i can go there and be like listen i have nine episodes now of a warriors podcast so you better take me seriously i can make or break your career but that would Wouldn't it be great if we could get to that point? Yeah, I would.
00:11:54
Speaker
Where we could just like throw our weight around. Uh-huh. Imagine if we like got one of them on as like an interview. That'd be so freaking cool. I don't think they really do that stuff. So ah like, I don't think that's a possibility, but it would be awesome.
00:12:09
Speaker
You never know. That's true. We could probably get the one on, but we don't want to talk to her. the turf. Yeah. I don't you remember her name. That's how bad she is.
00:12:21
Speaker
Okay, i won't tell you then. I yep don't want to know. I know it's not Cherith Baldry, so. yeah
00:12:30
Speaker
Okay, so chapter one. So starting to the actual book now, Fireheart is on his way to receive his nine lives from the Moonstone. Wait, isn't he Firestar now?
00:12:41
Speaker
Well, no, not until he gets his nine lives. Oh, okay. I didn't know how that worked. Okay. Yeah, so it's all like super secretive, but all the cats know that like, okay, you're Fireheart until you go to the Moonstone. And then after you receive your nine lives, StarClan will be like, okay, you're Firestar now. Because...
00:13:00
Speaker
It has happened before, very occasionally, that a leader will get rejected by StarClan. Oh. So, like, when Nightstar, who took over after ah they kicked Brokenstar out, when he went and they were like, no, we're not giving you your nine lives or your name. Right. They were technically supposed to go back to the clan and be like, yeah, he's not our leader.
00:13:23
Speaker
Oh, shit.
Firestar's Leadership Challenges and Responsibilities
00:13:24
Speaker
Yeah, because he was never actually granted the lives or the name so by Starclown. Oh, shit. So he was just calling himself that? Uh-huh. And only him and the medicine cat and possibly his deputy knew?
00:13:39
Speaker
oh shit. So, yeah. Those Shadowclan cats are just...
00:13:46
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It's... It's an example StarClan being ridiculous because the reason they denied him was because BrokenStar was still alive. And they're like, we're not granting more than nine lives at a time to anyone, anyone clan, I guess.
00:14:01
Speaker
But like, I i can kind of it. But dude's like, so you want us to keep in this child murderer as leader? Like, is i i what did you want us to do in this situation? Well, I mean, the thing is, this that what it what it what if what's his face became leader again? Like, know, like, well, now now we got two ShadowClan cats with nine lives. It's like, well, that's not good. So I can see it from their perspective.
00:14:29
Speaker
I wonder if StarClan just wanted them to straight up murder Tigerstar, uh, Brokenstar. And they're like, yeah, go take care of Brokenstar and then we'll give you your nine lives. I mean, that's one way to interpret it for sure. i feel like I would also like a novella from, well, actually there's a manga from Nightstar's perspective.
00:14:55
Speaker
Really? Yeah. Not a graphic novel, but specifically a manga. Well, I mean, it's a graphic novel, but they call them manga.
00:15:05
Speaker
I don't think they're allowed to do that. Yeah, I mean, it's technically not a manga, but. Yeah, because it's not Japanese. one they're one yeah One, they're not Japanese. Two, they're in color. Three, you read them.
00:15:21
Speaker
Manga can be in color. I have never seen a colored manga. I have. I'm not surprised. You are more in tune to that than I am.
00:15:36
Speaker
So Fireheart's nine lives. It's a super secret ceremony. What happens? Everyone is like, no, you're not allowed to know except medicine cats and leaders.
00:15:48
Speaker
So he goes to the Moonstone and he puts his nose to it, just like the medicine cats do. And just like the leaders do when they they talk to StarClan. He appears in StarClan, like, you know, his spirit self or whatever. That's cool. Yeah. There are a bunch of cats lined up and they kind of all talk together. And he's like, oh, what a spooky experience this is. one? That creepy.
00:16:17
Speaker
They ask him, are you ready to receive your nine lives? And who wouldn't want nine lives? So he says yes.
Darkstripe's Betrayal and Clan Politics
00:16:25
Speaker
And essentially how this works is that each cat gives him Oh, wait, we went over this with Blue Star, so we know already. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Lionheart is the first one to give him a life. Oh, I was going to say, I'm curious who's in that lineup. Yeah. Okay, Lionheart.
00:16:46
Speaker
Lionheart gives him courage ah to defend his clan with. Really? Lionheart gives him courage? I know!
00:16:57
Speaker
Come on, Cherith Baldry.
00:17:00
Speaker
I expect better from you. Redtail gives him justice. Redtail? Yeah, the deputy that died when he joined...
00:17:14
Speaker
No, who was the tail that he fought? That was... That was Longtail. Okay. Yeah, no, Redtail gives him justice because, like, Tigerclaw killed him and Fireheart had to bring Tigerclaw to justice for it.
00:17:30
Speaker
Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah yeah Now, okay. That's all coming back to And he also, he says, thank you. You reveal the truth when no one else could. Which, it's not entirely true. Yeah, there was a lot of cast that knew the truth.
00:17:49
Speaker
And also, Fireheart failed at revealing it. I think it's a thing that a lot of people brush over. like, Fireheart is credited as being the one to uncover the truth about Tigerstar.
00:18:05
Speaker
He failed at convincing Bluestar, though, and he didn't even try to convince the clan. The only reason he was supposedly successful is because Tigerclaw failed at killing Bluestar. Mm-hmm. So...
00:18:21
Speaker
yeah I mean... what there But there's a lot of there's a lot of instances where he's given credit When maybe he shouldn't have.
00:18:32
Speaker
Like, he definitely is the one who I don't know that they would have known that Tigerclaw killed Redtail without him even after the reveal, but they certainly would have kicked Tigerclaw out of the clan for trying to kill Bluestar. Like, you didn't need the Redtail thing added on for that to happen. Mm-mm.
00:18:54
Speaker
Silverstream gives him loyalty. Yeah, she gives him loyalty to know what is right. It's interesting that, like, once you're in StarClan, it doesn't matter what clan you were in before, apparently. Yeah, it's kind of funny because the clans are so anti-everyone else when ultimately they're all gonna just end up together anyway. Yeah.
00:19:20
Speaker
Yeah. Okay, hold on. So
Tigerstar's Ambitious Plan for 'TigerClan'
00:19:23
Speaker
we got Lionheart, Redtail. And Silverstream. Oh, okay. I thought there was one more. Okay, so Silverstream. Got it.
00:19:32
Speaker
Six more. Do you remember Running Wind? ru Yeah. he but ah Vaguely. He died. Tiger Claw killed him on patrol randomly because that was his first victim of like, I'm going to kill...
00:19:51
Speaker
ThunderClan. Poor Running Wind. Yeah. He gives the life of tireless energy, which is fantastic because Running Wind was the goofy guy who Bluestar didn't trust with an apprentice because he doesn't have the maturity for it.
00:20:13
Speaker
That's funny. who Brindleface, who is the foster mother of Cloudtail, gives him a life of protection and says, use it well to care for your clan as a mother cares for her kids. And each life, i it sends like a jolt of painful energy through him. And so, yeah. Yeah.
00:20:45
Speaker
You just picture him after life after four. It's like, okay, don't know if i want to keep doing this. e It's like part of the test of strength for being a leader.
00:20:57
Speaker
For this life from Brindleface, he's like, oh, thank God. Like, it's the love of a mother. This one's going to be, like, soft and gentle. Nope. He should have known. This was the most painful life he got. oh man.
00:21:12
Speaker
Because it's filled with, like, the fierce protectiveness, you know? and And he's like, oh, mothers will do fucking anything for their kids.
00:21:25
Speaker
Mm-hmm. fathers though yeah of them mm-hmm swift paw gives him the life of mentoring swift paw that's the cat that died from the dogs oh yeah the cat that had definitely aged well beyond warrior age and blue star was like he's a traitor I'm not giving him a warrior name
00:21:56
Speaker
Because she thought everyone was traitors. Yeah. Of course, Yellowfang gives him a life. Aww. She gives him compassion.
00:22:09
Speaker
And then even more, of course, Spottedleaf gives him a life. Oh. Jerika, can you guess what life she gives him? Love?
00:22:21
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love Yup. She says, use it well for all the cats in your care, and a spot especially Sandstorm.
00:22:34
Speaker
She says that? Yeah, she does. The fuck? ah She is super excited for Sandstorm and Fireheart to get together.
00:22:45
Speaker
Because she wants someone to take care of his bait or her baby, you know?
00:22:51
Speaker
She said, well, now
Rescue Mission for Graystripe's Kits
00:22:53
Speaker
that we can't be together, go with your second love. I'll be waiting for you in StarClan. That's essentially what the vibes I get from her.
00:23:04
Speaker
don't like it it. the last life is given by our queen, best cat the force has ever is Bluestar.
00:23:18
Speaker
Is there ever been an instance where the previous leader has not given the new one a life? a Well, I was going to say Brokenstar, but Nightstar didn't get lives.
00:23:33
Speaker
That's a really good question.
00:23:38
Speaker
I can't think of any. I suppose Sunstar in Bluestar's prophecy obviously wouldn't have gotten from Pinesar, but that doesn't really count because Pinesar was alive still.
00:23:53
Speaker
And Pinesar gave Bluestar a life, so... Hold on a second. Wait, so how did... so they They gave Sunstar lives even though Pinesar was still alive.
00:24:05
Speaker
So, Pynestar only had one life left, so instead of giving, ok they just subtracted that from his lives. They only gave me? Yeah.
00:24:17
Speaker
That's so shitty. Yup. Which, I guess, I don't know, did they regret that or something? Because they didn't do the same thing for Nightstar. For Nightstar, they just told him no, even though Broganstar only had two lives left.
00:24:31
Speaker
The fuck? Maybe one even? Maybe he was on his last life? I can't remember. Either one or two.
00:24:40
Speaker
But, yeah. it's Kind of fucked up. Fucking StarClan, man. Bluestar gives Fireheart the life of nobility and certainty and faith.
00:24:52
Speaker
So she's got a lot to give him. Mm-hmm. Well, she does kind of owe him Yeah. yeah And she gives him his new name, Firestar. And she says, your old life is no more.
00:25:12
Speaker
And StarClan grants you the guardianship of ThunderClan.
00:25:18
Speaker
and then And then everyone chants his name like ah they do at a warrior ceremony. Firestar, Firestar.
00:25:30
Speaker
He's our guy. And no one else. He'll go far. then... But then... put then This ceremony takes a dark turn as suddenly Fireheart, well, Firestar, sees a hill of bones and uh- blood starts flowing from it.
00:25:58
Speaker
And he's like, what the fuck? This is supposed to be a great time. And now there's a hill of bones. And Bluestar gives him a new prophecy. As she said, she says, four will become two. Lion and tiger will meet in battle and blood will rule the forest.
00:26:18
Speaker
Okay. What was that first part? Four will become two. Lion and tiger will meet in battle. And blood will. Okay, well.
Preserving Traditions and Firestar's Leadership Style
00:26:32
Speaker
Is Firestar supposed to be the lion here? It's a good guess. Because Lionheart's already dead. Okay. I should also show you... Blood will rule the forest. That one's kind of obvious. Yeah.
00:26:48
Speaker
Four will become two. Hmm. I should also show also show you the cover of this book. It is Fireheart licking, ah drinking from like a pool of water. And in the reflection is an actual lion.
00:27:08
Speaker
and Interesting. Fireheart in this picture looks like he's a kit and I don't know. Yeah, he looks really young. ah I've always been bothered by that because it's otherwise a really cool cover.
00:27:24
Speaker
Why did... Okay, I will wait to ask. Four will become two. Hmm. All right.
00:27:35
Speaker
I'm a ponder that. So now he's got nine lives. Good for you, Firestar. You get to live longer than you probably should have.
00:27:46
Speaker
On the way back from the Moonstone, they stop at Barley and Ravenpaw's farm, and... So Fireheart, well, Firestar, now it's weird because I put... Yeah, for so long. forced myself to say Fireheart for so long and it was really hard. And now I can go back to Firestar. Which I feel like in a series like this, it's really obvious that he's going to become leader one day. Yeah. Like, right from the start, it's like, okay, well...
00:28:19
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Clearly this is the classic, like, the hero is the only one who can accomplish things and knows what's going on. Well, at least one of those things is true for him.
00:28:33
Speaker
He always is told secrets, he just doesn't know what they mean. That's so funny. that That they just, like... Yeah, we're we need to tell this someone the secret. oh Let's tell Fireheart because, you know, he won't figure it out. ah yeah He's like, I know that there were kits that went missing from ThunderClan and Mistyfoot looks exactly like Bluestar.
00:29:05
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i wish they would get a I wish that we could get along because they look so similar.
00:29:12
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00:29:20
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But on the way back, they go to Barley and Ravenpaw's farm, and he tells them about, you know the trouble with Tigerstar, and Ravenpaw says, well, I'm not a ThunderClan cat, but if it comes to battle, I'll be by your side, and I'll help you get Tigerstar out of the forest.
00:29:38
Speaker
Wasn't Ravenclaw, like, one of Tiger... Ravenpaw! That's said. Ravenpaw. Wasn't Ravenpaw like one of Tigerclaw's lackeys that turned on him?
00:29:49
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He was his apprentice. Yeah. okay. But he was always, like, scared of him. Gotcha. And then he turned state's evidence and then he had to go into witness protection.
00:30:00
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Yeah, ive pretty much. Ravenpaw specifically says, I'll be proud to stand with the warriors of ThunderClan and fight him to the death. Okay.
00:30:15
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So he's fucking in this. He hates Tigerclaw. Well, I'm sure Firestar does too. It's just that... Man, there's gonna be a lot of breaking the warrior code.
00:30:28
Speaker
Why? What do you mean? Oh, with Firestar... Oh, with Tigerclaw? You're not supposed to kill each other, but Wait, so are there any cats that don't that get or denied access to StarClan?
00:30:44
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Yeah. Oh, OK. Yeah. OK. Well, fuck you, Tigerstar.
00:30:55
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You're going straight to hell. hmm.
00:31:00
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Firestar, they get back to camp, him and Cinderpelt, and Firestar makes Whitestorm his deputy. Whitestorm. That's the cat that's been like, he's had his back since he became deputy, and he's a senior warrior. He's Bluestar's nephew.
00:31:19
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okay. That's why it sounded familiar. Mm-hmm. Because it's snow fur. Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:29
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Because it's snow fur. Yeah.
00:31:35
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So life goes on in the clans for a couple days. And Firestar is just high anxiety all the time. Because who knows what Tigerstar is planning. Yeah.
00:31:48
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One day they're out in the forest. He's out with Graystripe. And they see... Oh, wait, hold on of second. I just realized something.
00:32:01
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He could have made Graystripe deputy he wanted to. he sure up He did not because even he's like, yeah, buddy, you're not. He didn't want to make it seem like he was playing favorites.
00:32:17
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And also... ah ah It's so funny. I'm reading... A Graystripe super edition. He has his whole super edition right now. And he kind of gets into that.
00:32:32
Speaker
Is he salty? No. Okay. That's good. He's just like. He's like I do not want to be clan leader. Well there you go.
00:32:46
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So. Firestar is surprised. When he sees Darkstripe. Hanging out with. some of the new kits. He's like, that's weird. He's never cared about kits before. They're like right outside the camp. So like close enough where they can explore a little, but. Okay, hold on a second. Hold on a second.
00:33:09
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Who did, what was the cat that Bluestar went over the ravine with?
00:33:16
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I thought that was Darkstripe. No, she went just with the dogs. Oh, the dogs.
00:33:26
Speaker
Okay. Darkstripe had been trying to lead Tigerstar's kits away, and Fireheart was like, get the fuck back with the clan. Right. Okay. i There was dogs. Okay.
00:33:42
Speaker
And suddenly, Graystripe shoots past Fireheart runs to one of the kits, Sorrel Kit, and he makes her, like, stop eating these berries, and he's like, no, those are death berries. and Sorrel Kit...
00:34:02
Speaker
like had eaten some already so she's like convulsing on the ground and they get cinder pelt and they stabilize her like they meant it's like touch and go like they're like okay she's fine for now we don't know if she'll make it so dark stripe was kicked out wouldn't he no for some reason he's still there what the fuck
00:34:31
Speaker
Firestar knew what Darkstripe was doing! Uh-huh. yeah he Yeah, he's just in the clan still. Jesus, mother of peanut butter. likes these Oh my god. Okay. what Oh my god. i'm so See, Firestar, I'm mad at you.
00:34:49
Speaker
Whatever happens because of this is going to be on your head. Whatever Darkstripe does, it's your fault. but Well, Graystripe says that Darkstripe was trying to poison Sorrelkit on purpose.
00:35:04
Speaker
He probably was! Yeah, and Darkstripe is like, that's bullshit. I didn't do that. And everyone is suspicious of him. And he's like, why would I poison a kid? And they're like, I don't know. Why would you poison a kid? You're shady as fuck. So Darkstripe insists that he wasn't feeding her the berries. He was trying to stop her because he saw her doing it So he was trying to save her life. And Graystripe is like, that's bullshit. I literally saw you giving them to her.
00:35:34
Speaker
That dude should have been kicked out immediately after Tiger Stripe because because when after he said, oh i'm not I'm only mad because you didn't tell me that we were doing a coup.
00:35:45
Speaker
like, fuck her. so mad. It's the wildest thing that they kept him in the clan. These cats make bad decisions. Yes, they do.
00:35:57
Speaker
So many. ah There's like, you know, on the argument, Stark Stripes trying to defend himself, and he's like, well, we know who precious Firestar will side with. There's no use expecting justice in ThunderClan these days. Internally, Firestar is like,
00:36:19
Speaker
internally firesar is like Ooh, that one hurt a little bit, because actually, i do think you're wrong, because Graystripe said, like, he believes Graystripe, you know, on instinct. But it's like, i mean, is that playing favorites, or is that just Fireheart knowing who his cats are, you know? Yeah, he's gonna believe Graystripe because he trusts Graystripe, because Graystripe has earned his trust, like...
00:36:52
Speaker
What is Darkstripe ever done to earn his trust? Nothing. The only thing Darkstripe has Darkstripe has done is side with Tigerclaw. Yeah. And what are you going to do?
00:37:03
Speaker
Even if he was playing favorites, what are you going to do? He's leader. Right. You'd have to kill him nine times.
00:37:15
Speaker
Or ten times. it Nine lives plus the life you started with. No, it's just nine total. OK.
00:37:23
Speaker
Yeah, you get to kill him nine times. You think you're going to be able to kill someone nine times? I think not. Although they're going not to kill Tiger. Oh.
00:37:33
Speaker
If StarClan actually gave Tiger Star nine lives, I'm going to be so upset. I would be like, you know what? Fuck StarClan. Blue Stripe was right. Or Blue Stripe. Blue.
00:37:47
Speaker
Blue Star. Blue Stripe is also a good name, though.
00:37:53
Speaker
Questionable things is a theme throughout all of the series. Mm-hmm.
00:38:02
Speaker
So Firestar says, okay, well, to be fair, we are going to wait until Sorrelkit recovers and then she'll tell us if Darkstripe fed her the berries or not.
00:38:17
Speaker
But in the meantime, we're going to put a guard on Darkstripe so that he doesn't do any more shady shit, you know? Yeah, like try and kill Sorrelkit.
00:38:28
Speaker
but Unfortunately, Darkstripe does immediately slip his guard and leave Thunderclant. God damn it. Brackenfur was supposed to be guarding him and he's like, I'm so sorry. He told me he was going to the dirt place, but then he just, you know, left.
00:38:47
Speaker
you Did it follow him? That's the thing is that these are cats. They mark borders in front of each other all the time. I think it would have been fine to go to the dirt place with him.
00:38:58
Speaker
You can, yeah. Like, you don't have to watch, but you can just, like, come on, man. So they're kind of just like, okay, well, I guess he's gone. Nothing we can do about that now. Yeah, not nothing we can do now.
00:39:15
Speaker
and now it is finally time for some fucking warriors to be made because Blue Star held them back for so long and fire the first warrior ceremony that Firestar will do, he makes Thornpaw into Thornclaw.
00:39:35
Speaker
Cloudtail, when he hears that Thornpaw is going to become a warrior, he's like, okay, well, what about Lostface? Because those two were littermates. And Firestar's like... Oh, lost face. Yeah. fires Previously Brightpaw. And Firestar's like, well what do you mean? She has a warrior name already. We can't just change the warrior name, can we? And Cloudtail's like, don't give a fuck. You better give her a new name.
00:40:05
Speaker
I'm with Cloudtail on this one. Yeah. Firestar is like, well, I'll go talk to One-Eye, the oldest cat in the clan, and surely she'll know if there's like a ceremony for this.
00:40:18
Speaker
Which kind of makes me think, like, how many traditions do these cats lose because, like, they're not capable of like, writing anything down, you know? So, like, this is such a rare occurrence. And what if one eye had died before she could tell Firestar what to do?
00:40:39
Speaker
You know what mean? Yeah, it's like, that's the that's the one thing about oral traditions is that have to have someone to tell it. Yeah. So like, I feel like, I mean, I don't actually know this, but I feel like in real life, ah people are more skilled at passing on knowledge. Like, you know, in cultures where they don't write things down, ah they will probably be sharing information more than these cats.
00:41:09
Speaker
Yeah. Like, or making songs. Yeah. Wow, these cats never have sung. That's what a sad life. No wonder they're always fighting.
00:41:21
Speaker
Damn. A life without song. I couldn't do it. Yeah, that's fucked up. Their song is the cry of battle. That is the lamest thing ever.
00:41:33
Speaker
Not that you, not like, not like that you came up with, it's just that I can see someone saying that and it's like, all right, man. Yeah.
00:41:46
Speaker
Firestar learns what to do from OneEye, so he went to talk to her. And he there is a ceremony for changing her name. Oh, good.
00:42:01
Speaker
Let me just read you out what the fucking... Oh, no. Okay. Spirits of StarClan, you know every cat by name. I ask you now take away the name from the cat you see before you, for it no longer stands for what she is. By my authority as clan leader and with approval of our warrior ancestors, I give this cat a new name. From not this moment, she will be known as Brightheart, for though her body has been gravely injured, we honor her brave spirit and the light that shines on without within her. Yeah, ah you don't have to mention the body part.
00:42:35
Speaker
I mean, maybe just don't worry about mentioning that. Uh-huh. So yeah, she's lost, lost face, and she's gained Brightheart.
00:42:48
Speaker
I'm sure she's a lot happier with that. It is a really cute name, and like it it does suit her for the reason that he mentioned, but yeah, he he didn't have to... go say it that way he could have said like oh because she faced tragedy but like her spirit is shining through you know he didn't have to be like cause her face is fucked up even though her face is fucked up she's still actually a person like how progressive of you fire fire star fire whatever your name is
00:43:26
Speaker
So, ok two things about this. One, the Arons have said that they specifically wanted Firestar to have like fun naming warriors, essentially. like The cats of ThunderClan under Firestar are given more unique names than most other leaders. He like just really enjoys it. yeah Which, I mean, Thornclaw...
00:43:55
Speaker
Sure. But Brightheart, that makes sense. He like you know really thought about it. And I think it's also cute because he kind of gave her his name. so you know um Also, Firestar is pretty ableist because Cloudtail tells him, okay, well, Brightheart is officially a warrior, even though she doesn't have the warrior skills because you know she had to be taken on training. But I'm going to train with her and we're going to figure out techniques that like...
00:44:22
Speaker
She's never going to let her blind side get attacked with it. Like, she's going to have... Be super aware of her surroundings and, like, not let anyone creep up on her blind side or anything like that. and Fireheart... Firestar is hesitant about this.
00:44:45
Speaker
He's not sure if he wants her to be a real warrior. Oh my gosh. Well, she can never really be a full warrior because she can't hunt alone. And she would be at a serious disadvantage in a fight. But she does look pretty determined. So ah he tells Cloudtail, well, you don't have an apprentice, so I guess it's fine if you help her train like this.
00:45:15
Speaker
Come on, Firestar. They have to, like, ask his permission is the thing that's really annoying. Like, they're not saying, like, hey, we're going to go do this. Cloudtail's like, is it okay if I train her like this? And Brightheart is like, come on, I want to be of use to the clan. And Firestar's like, well, okay, I guess. Like, why would you not be excited that your clan your ah clan members are excited to contribute?
00:45:41
Speaker
yeah like, you're... there's a is There's still a shortage of warriors, isn't there? Yeah. So for this war for this cat to be like, hey, I went through this horrible thing and almost died, but I'm back on my feet now. I'm determined. I'm going to contribute to the clan. Like, you know, let me just practice. And then he's like, um, guess.
00:46:10
Speaker
Like, come on, dude. Also, he needs to tell he he needs to tell people to start fucking because we need more warriors. I mean, Cloudtail and Brightheart sure look like they're ready to fuck.
00:46:27
Speaker
Well, let's get on it. I don't know what the gestation period for cats is, but... ah However many months that is, plus... so I'm sorry, however many moons that is, plus plus six, Bluestar should have been like, yeah, we need to start doing some more fucking, so... Gosh.
00:46:49
Speaker
I mean, like...
00:46:54
Speaker
That's how you get more warriors is that you have to have more cats. And how do you have more cats? Well, i don't make these things the rules. I didn't decide that that's how cats are made.
00:47:08
Speaker
gonna look up. What? I'm go look down. OK. OK, what is the gestation period for a cat? 65 days.
00:47:21
Speaker
sixty five days ah hu That's like two months. Yeah, it's it's a lot of cats, to be honest. Holy crap.
00:47:33
Speaker
I looked this up and it's like, you know, here are some other questions people ask. What annoys cats the most?
00:47:41
Speaker
ah People asking this question. Lots of things. 65 days. I cannot imagine.
00:47:48
Speaker
sixty five day i cannot imagine Like, you get pregnant, two months later you have kids, and then ah home you can have more kids in two months. That's wild. I would not like it.
00:48:03
Speaker
ah this other question. How do I say sorry to my cat? Okay, so I forgot. Darkstripe didn't slip away at this point. It was...
00:48:15
Speaker
It was something else, but ah he he doesn't know. So Zorilkit wakes up and Firestarter is like, okay, well, we're going to go get the real story of what happened now. And she says that she slipped out of camp because she is a little kit and loves to adventure.
00:48:35
Speaker
And she saw Darkstripe meeting with a strange cache who she had never seen before, who based on her description and all that, they realize is Blackfoot from ShadowClan.
00:48:49
Speaker
Hmm. And when Darkstripe saw her, like he noticed that she was watching them and she ran away so she didn't hear what they were saying. But he went and found her and he was like, wow, that was so clever and sneaky of you to follow me and watch my meeting. Here, as a special treat, you can have one of these berries.
00:49:15
Speaker
Asshole. Mm-hmm. And so Cinderpelt tells her, yeah those were death berries. Never eat those again. i don't care what cat was offering that to you.
00:49:26
Speaker
and so Sandstorm is like, Darkstripe definitely can't live in the Klan after this, right? Like, he tried to murder a child. All of the cats are gonna just kill him if he stays here. Thank you, Sandstorm. Like...
00:49:46
Speaker
you have to you need you yeah You need to get with Firestar because he needs some sense.
00:49:56
Speaker
And so Firestar is like, I'll take care of it. And they call a clan meeting. oh that sounds ominous. They call a clan meeting and he announces to everyone what Sorrelkit does. So obviously everyone is pissed at Darkstripe. And he's like, well, Darkstripe, what do you have to say for yourself? And Darkstripe is just like, I don't have to justify myself to a kittypet.
00:50:21
Speaker
Wrong answer, pal.
00:50:25
Speaker
Wrong fucking answer. Firestar literally says, that's exactly what you have to do. Get out of here, and if I ever see you again, you're dead. Yeah, that's pretty much what they say. So Darkstripe is...
00:50:44
Speaker
salty about everything. He's like, I know you had Breck and Furr watching me, and I know you've always hated me, and Thunderclan is led by a kitty pet now, and I have no loyal to Thunderclan. The only cat in this whole forest worth following is Tigerstar.
00:51:07
Speaker
And so Fireheart is like, okay, go be with him. Yeah, no one did. That's why i hate you.
00:51:18
Speaker
So Firestar is like, okay, go be with Tigerstar then, because you're not a Thunderclan cat anymore. yeah see know that See how that works out for you. Yeah. And so he leaves and everyone is like, okay, we can like chase him off if he ever comes back. Right. And fire is like, yes, absolutely. Do not let that bitch back in here.
00:51:42
Speaker
And Dustpelt brings up that Fernpaw doesn't have a mentor now because Darkstripe was her mentor. Dustpelt obviously wants to be her mentor because he's been creepily attached to her. And Firestar is like, nah, we're not doing that. And he gives ah long tail he gets hurt a long tail to mentor instead.
00:52:06
Speaker
And Firestar being Firestar also brings up that you don't have an apprentice now that Swiftpaw is dead, so you can have Fernpaw as your apprentice.
00:52:22
Speaker
The cat just gave you a life, man. Like... No, Longtail, not Running Wind. Oh. No, so Swift... Oh, I see what you mean. I see what you mean. Okay, sorry. Yeah.
00:52:34
Speaker
Yeah. And then you're going to besmirch their name?
00:52:42
Speaker
Rude. Yeah, Firestar,
00:52:47
Speaker
Firestar doesn't pick up on things sometimes. Well, he didn't have the greatest, like, example. What do you mean he had Bluestar?
00:52:59
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
00:53:02
Speaker
And by that point, Bluestar was starting to lose it a little bit. Not by the time he joined.
00:53:12
Speaker
Well, it wasn't that much far firm that wasn't that much later.
00:53:20
Speaker
Because he's the she he didn't didn't didn't, wasn't it Firepaw that tried to tell Bluestar about Tiger Claw, the first very first goddamn book?
00:53:32
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I don't think it was in the first book. i think it was in the second book. Okay. So, okay. Longtail was the one that got beat, that Firestar beat in that duel, right? Yeah.
00:53:51
Speaker
And did did they make up or did Longtail still hate Firestar? He hated him for a while, but since Tigerclaw left...
00:54:05
Speaker
Well, really before that a little bit. Essentially, Longtail has shown that he fucking hates Firestar, but he's not gonna, like, go all traitorous about it. Like, there was a time when um he pulled Firestar out of the river a few books ago.
00:54:23
Speaker
Like, he saved his life, and so Fireheart had the realization of, like, okay, this guy's a douchebag, but he's not, like, a murderous douchebag like Tigerclaw. Like, he's still gonna stay loyal to people in his clan. And then he reported Tigerstar feeding the dogs in their territory, so, like, Fireheart had another moment of, like...
00:54:45
Speaker
Okay, so Longtail is loyal to ThunderClan at the end of the day, but he has just made some questionable friend choices. Mm-hmm. So, but they still kind of, I think they're starting to hate each other less at this point. Like, Longtail is starting to see that, okay, so maybe Firestar is good for the clan, even though he was a kittypet.
00:55:13
Speaker
Hmm, well...
00:55:16
Speaker
Maybe. ah ah i don't know. but So Firestar and Graystripe see Mistyfoot across the river with border, across the border with RiverClan and they bring up that there was the reveal that Bluestar is their mother and Tigerstar was there. So Firestar is worried for her and warns that like Tigerstar is definitely going to use that against you. And Mistyfoot says, yeah, no, I know that. And that's why I already just shared it with the clan.
00:55:49
Speaker
It's like there no whole yeah the whole of Riverclad knows now. And Firestar is surprised and asks you know how they took that. And she's like, I mean, they don't like it. And some cats obviously don't trust us. But Leopardstar gave us her public support. So there's not really anything anyone could do about it, even though she thinks Leopardstar is still a little suspicious of them. by Oh, Leopardstar is suspicious 100%.
00:56:17
Speaker
one hundred percent Yeah, Leopardstar loves to hate. She's a big hater, so...
00:56:25
Speaker
Didn't she start the fight that got Silverstream killed? No, Silverstream died in childbirth. Leopardstar started the fight that got Whiteclaw killed. Right.
00:56:38
Speaker
There's so many cats. Yes, there are. Yeah, I'm reading like the seventh or eighth arc right now. And there are there are plenty of times when I have to just stop and look up family trees. I'm like, wait, who the fuck is this cat related to? Because there's so much.
00:56:59
Speaker
So at the gathering, ah before the gathering even, Firestar and Whitestorm are talking about who to bring to the gathering and Firestar's like, well I'm definitely not bringing Tigerstar's kids because he's going to try to just take them. And Whitestorm is like...
00:57:18
Speaker
kind like half playing devil's advocate but in the way that you're supposed to do it of not just like rage baiting him but just like saying things he doesn't really think to get firestar to think about it you know he's like well you know that fire or that tiger star is gonna want to take these kits and you're gonna have to fight for them if you want them and firestar is like Yep, and we're gonna fight for them, because ain't no fucking way Tigerstar is taking these kids out of ThunderClan.
00:57:48
Speaker
Which White Storm approves of, so. is there Is their mom still alive? Yeah, their mom is still in ThunderClan. So, like, there's... The thought of them going to ShadowClan just because of Tigerstar is insane.
00:58:05
Speaker
yeah Although...
00:58:10
Speaker
I feel like if Tigerstar really wanted him, that like, no one really could really do much about it. Like, i don't know. I'll just get that vibe. But maybe I'm wrong.
00:58:22
Speaker
Well. At the gathering that night, obviously Tigerstar is there because he's leader ShadowClan now. Tigerstar starts talking about this great change that's coming to the forest. and and he points out how, well...
00:58:44
Speaker
Leaf Bear brought a lot of hardship. There was a lot of flooding. There was a fire in ThunderClan that like destroyed their whole territory. Two Legs are moving into the territory.
00:58:56
Speaker
i wouldn't be surprised if Tigerstar started that fire. Yeah, I wouldn't either.
00:59:04
Speaker
And... He says, you know, that all these changes are happening and we have to rise to meet those challenges. And there are a bunch of yowls from the cats in the gathering and Firestar notes that they're mostly from ShadowClan and RiverClan cats, which is slightly sus.
00:59:26
Speaker
and Yeah, because you got to RiverClan. Uh-huh. And WindClan and ThunderClan are kind of just like looking around uncomfortably like, what the fuck is he talking about?
00:59:39
Speaker
And Tigerstar announces that he has already talked to Leopardstar, who has agreed to his great plan to unite all of the clans together under one clan led by Tigerstar. And this clan will be called TigerClan.
00:59:58
Speaker
That has to get some, like, hol like hubbub going on, right? Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. He says there'll be joint leaders, but everyone knows what he yeah actually plans.
01:00:15
Speaker
And he says, we will rule the force together in friendship and peace.
01:00:24
Speaker
Or we could just do that now. And Tallstar is the first one to speak out against this, and he's like, no, first of all, Tiger Clan was one of the names of the great ancient clans, and you can't just take it for yourself, so no to that. And also, ah we have always been four clans. The Warrior Code has been created through generations and generations, and it says that we should be four clans, and I'll die before I join our clans together.
01:01:00
Speaker
Four become two! Oh, shit! I betcha it takes Firestar a little bit more to find that.
01:01:12
Speaker
I realize that, too. Tigerstar plays it off like Tallstar is just an old fool and he's like, well, this is a hard decision and older cats need a lot of time to adjust to changes. So I'll let you ah think on it for a while.
01:01:33
Speaker
Tallstar does not approve of this. Or should he? ah he calls him a pop a piece of fox dung. Yeah. Shots fired.
01:01:50
Speaker
I like it.
01:01:53
Speaker
And obviously Firestar also tells him no. Yeah, that's that's a given. And they're like, we'll never let you do this. And, you know, Firestar and Tallstar are like spitting angry at him. And Tigerstar is like, what? I would never force my takeover on your clans. That's not what I meant. I meant for this to be a peaceful union.
01:02:19
Speaker
yeah you tried to kill Bluestar. would I believe you? and fuck? Yeah. Firestar is like, okay, this has gone on and long enough. I need to finally tell them what happened with Tigerstar and Bluestar. And so he starts and he's like, do you ever wonder why Tigerstar left ThunderClan? Well, I'll tell you But then a fucking bolt of lightning strikes down from the sky and there's like a bunch of thunder
01:02:53
Speaker
And Tigerstar is like, it's a sign! It's a sign from StarClan! The gathering is over! oh shit. I mean, maybe it was.
01:03:04
Speaker
So...
01:03:08
Speaker
Yeah, Firestar fails at telling everyone. Maybe StarClan can't be trusted. i have never trusted StarClan except when I was a very young child.
01:03:23
Speaker
just Just like... Well, never mind. Yeah. Firestar uses one of my favorite phrases that they never use again. And...
01:03:36
Speaker
When they're leaving the gathering, Graystripe is like, why didn't you tell Tigerstar? ah Why did you tell the truth about Tigerstar? Sandstorm is like, it's not his fault that a storm started. Firestar says, well, it's too late to worry about that now. That praise killed and eaten.
01:03:56
Speaker
Wow. don't know why that's the funniest phrase to me. And he ponders on the way back about the prophecy and he's like, oh, I get it. Tiger clan is the, or tiger is the tiger clan that will meet in battle. But who is the lion? Jesus Christ.
01:04:25
Speaker
Probably Tallstar. Yeah, probably Tallstar. Yeah. So the next day, they're just out in the forest doing their cat things. and Fireheart is taking a drink of water and he's, you know, pondering all this horrible Tiger Clan stuff. and a beam of light shines down and he looks in the water and he sees his head surrounded by this beam of light. And he's like,
01:05:00
Speaker
oh, that that kind of looks like a lion. That's weird. Is this what a lion looks like? And he looks up and Silverstream is there and she's kind of laughing at him. And he's like, oh my God. so spot No, it's not Silverstream, Spideleaf, sorry. He looks up and Spideleaf is there and he's like, oh my God, my love. And she's kind of laughing at him.
01:05:26
Speaker
And she says, take heed. Is it not reciprocal or like, cause she's older than him, right? She, no, she loves the fuck out of him. Even, but like, didn't she die like very soon after he arrived? Yes.
01:05:44
Speaker
She died at the end of book one. All right. Yeah. They knew each other maybe like four or five moons. And she was a grown-ass adult who had graduated medicine cat school.
01:05:58
Speaker
yeah Because medicine cats take longer than regular warriors to get their name. Well, they got lots of shit to learn. Well, yeah, but I'm just saying, like not only was she full grown, she was like full grown. you know yeah.
01:06:18
Speaker
Um, and... so i guess you could say that she's a cougar.
01:06:26
Speaker
Yes, you could. ah I will not apologize for that. yeah As you shouldn't. She tells him, take heed of what you have seen, Firestar. Learn what you must be. And he says,
01:06:42
Speaker
Huh?
01:06:45
Speaker
but And she starts fading away and he's like, Spottedleaf, don't leave me yet. I need you. Because I don't understand what you just said. ah But then i he's he wanders away and like Graystripe joins him and he's thinking and he's like, oh, that that.
01:07:08
Speaker
reflection in the water looked exactly like a lion. And you know what? Remember Bluestar's prophecy when she said lion and tiger will meet in battle? oh my God. Does that mean we're going to create lion clan and we're going to fight tiger clan?
01:07:29
Speaker
i don't know. Does that what it means? yeah he iss He's catching up. He's catching up. Slowly. Slowly but surely.
01:07:42
Speaker
You know, and here's the thing about. Firestar started out as this like really like badass cat, right? He's just like, oh, yeah, I want to be a warrior. And then then Longtail's like, yeah, we'll prove it.
01:07:59
Speaker
And. You know, he'd like tears off the collar and. and Treats it like the dirt. While he's a baby. yeah and he's just like, fuck you.
01:08:13
Speaker
And now he's like, oh, is that what it means? He's so fucking reliant on Spottedleaf, and it's insane because he never knows what she means anyway. She'll tell him things, and then he won't figure it out, and it'll just happen, and he's like, I guess that's what she meant. And it's like, what use was that wording?
01:08:32
Speaker
He did nothing with it. You'd think that she'd learn to like speak a little bit more direct to him. Like, listen, right. Listen, dude. ah This is what's going to happen. Like, there's this whole thing StarClan doesn't want to interfere too much in the living world. So, like, they're super vague, they give prophecies, all this. But when you have cats coming down and physically appearing and just, like, having conversations with them, the mysticism kind of slips away from that.
01:09:05
Speaker
A little bit. Like, it would make more sense if it was like, StarClan has a hard time contacting the living world, so they have to be, like, snappy with what they say, and yeah it's vague, the cats don't really understand them, because they're so different now in, like, their minds Yeah, they understand the universe or whatever. Yeah, like, and they don't really understand how to communicate properly anymore. But that's not the case at all. So the cats are just being obtuse just to be obtuse.
01:09:44
Speaker
Oh, boy.
01:09:46
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So Graystripe wants to check in on his kits Firestar agrees. They're going to go check the kits. They meet up with Ravenpaw along the way because Ravenpaw is just always worried about what's going on in the forest now with Tigerstar. And they're like, yeah, come with us to check on the kits.
01:10:05
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They go into RiverClan territory and they find that Fucking ShadowClan cats have joined in the RiverClan camp because, you know, their clans are joining together now. Mm-hmm.
01:10:24
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Tigerstar has formed a big hill of bones. Oh, boy. He's using this as his meeting spot now. He calls it the Bone Hill.
01:10:38
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's not... Very creative.
01:10:43
Speaker
Anyone who doesn't see what's wrong here. Definitely not evil cat. Just make in a bone hill. No. Yeah. Don't worry about Just a bone hill. Just your avid run the mill bone hill.
01:10:58
Speaker
This is not what evil mob boss cats do, you know? Yeah, no, course not. So Greystripe, Firestar, and Ravenpaw are like, you know, crouched down hiding. They don't want any cats to see them. And Tigerstar calls a meeting. Meet here around the bone hill. And he says, it's time for the trial. Go fetch the prisoners.
01:11:24
Speaker
What? And they see stone fur at the foot of the bone hill. Hold on, Stonefur.
01:11:37
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That's one of Bluestar's cats. Yup. Oh no. he's being held prisoner. But then when Jaggedtooth, who is one of his previously rogue cats, goes and gets the other prisoners and he pulls them out and... oh and by the way, Darkstripe is fucking here.
01:12:02
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Of course course. We knew that. Yeah. yeah But they, Darkstripe and Jagged Tooth pull the new prisoners out. And these poor little kits who are obviously underfed and sickly are Featherpaw and Stormpaw. Graypaw's kit. Graystripe's kits.
01:12:22
Speaker
Oh, this is not going to end well. Graystripe's going to go fucking Hulk on this bitch.
01:12:32
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Tigerstar says we only have room for loyalty in TigerClan now, and we can't have half-Clan cats. So where's Mistyfoot?
01:12:44
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um Not here. Interesting. I'm going to try not to think about that. He says we can't afford cats who will waver in battle or even turn on their own clan, and I can't help but wondering...
01:13:03
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what the fuck that means if they're all one clan though. Because you're joining ShadowClan and RiverClan together into TigerClan but you also don't want half clan cats.
01:13:21
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Are your cats never going to mate with the like hey I really like you do you want to become mates? I think it's obvious what he meant. Which is what?
01:13:33
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Half clan, half tiger clan, half other clan. Ew. That's what he meant. Well, I think it's stupid because he wants all the clans to join together.
01:13:44
Speaker
Does he, though? Yeah, he said that. No, I'm... Oh, he wants to rule everyone, but I'm saying he is pitching to all of these cats, hey, we should all Oh, yeah. Like, he is simultaneously saying we should all be one clan, but also we don't want half clan cats. Because at this point, like...
01:14:02
Speaker
I mean, you and I know, and Firestar knows, that all Tigerstar wants is to destroy ThunderClan. But he's what he's saying publicly to everyone is that he wants them all to be one clan. Right. So how is he going to say hey, we should all join together and be one, and also say, we don't want these cats because they're half-clan cats?
01:14:25
Speaker
Well, I... But I think both RiverClan and ShadowClan know that ThunderClan's not gonna... Then they're dumbasses. Like, they're just evil cats, I guess.
01:14:42
Speaker
That's probably true. Well, it is true, but... Yeah, that that is a little bit contradictory, I guess. You're right. So, Tigerstar wants them to justify themselves, and he's like, we have to we have to prove that Stonefur is loyal to the clan, and Stonefur...
01:15:05
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is pissed about this, obviously, and he's like, I have literally only ever been a RiverClan warrior. I didn't even know my mother was from ThunderClan until, like, two days ago. Like, I was the deputy. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm a RiverClan cat through and through. And...
01:15:24
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this motherfucker, Tigerstar, tells Leopardstar, you had poor judgment when you allowed this half-Clan cat to be your deputy.
01:15:35
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And instead of defending herself, Leopardstar just, like, lowers her head. Like, yes, sir. I'm sorry. Tigerstar says, well, we will give you a chance to prove your loyalty, though, okay?
01:15:50
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To Stonefirm. And he says, if you kill these two apprentices, then we'll know you're loyal to TigerClan. Okay, hold on, hold on. Very important. This is happening while Firestar and Graystripe are heading to RiverClan? Yup.
01:16:12
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Okay, and that's... Is that... No, they... they Like, they're watching it right now. Oh, so they're there. Yes, but they're hiding. Okay, that's what that's what I thought. Yeah, here's where it's about to kick So...
01:16:26
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so Stonefur has obviously been like partially starved. He's like thin and shaky on his feet. On purpose.
01:16:39
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Yeah. And he looks up to Tigerstar with defiance in his eyes and he's like, Hell no, I'm not killing these kits. Are you insane? And... oh actually, I skipped an adorable little part where...
01:16:55
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Stormpaw puts Featherpaw behind him and he's like growling fiercely with his little baby growl and he's like I'll protect you it's it's adorable but Stonefur says you know he won't kill them and Tigerstar is like well we have our answer then he's not loyal and he tells Darkstripe go down there and take care of Stonefur hello And these two fight Darkstripe is heavily embarrassed at this half-starved cat ah not being defeated by him.
01:17:36
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yeah Stonefur is not necessarily winning, but he's definitely putting up a fight and not losing. Like, they're pretty equally matched. and Tigerstar is so irritated. he's like, oh, goddammit. Darkstripe, can you do fucking anything? that This cat is so weak. Stonefur actually gets the upper hand. He's like got his ah his jaws on Darkstripe's throat. and then Tigerstar is like, okay, enough of this. Blackfoot, you go down and finish it.
01:18:13
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And then Blackfoot fails. No. No, no, no. Shit. Shit, shit, shit, shit, shit. Blackfoot goes down and he's an actually strong warrior. So Blackfoot and Darkstripe together kill Stonefur.
01:18:30
Speaker
And Firestar just sits there. They just fucking sit there. I mean, okay, in their defense, what are two cats going to do against two whole clans? Yeah, but... Yeah, okay, but it's only because that wasn't and either of theirs kit, right? Yeah.
01:18:51
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So... Yeah. it We know what's gonna happen. Like... there There is zero way that fucking Graystripe is going to... soon As soon as the slightest bit of threat comes to those kids, he's in there running and Firestar's running after him.
01:19:12
Speaker
Like... Go on. Sorry. No, no. i I want to hear your thoughts. Um... Darkstripe...
01:19:26
Speaker
is all triumphant because somehow they managed to kill this weak, frail Yeah, I got help. I had help to kill this weak-ass cat. I'm so... But he knows that people are thinking badly of him at this point. So he turns to Tigerstar and he's like, let me prove my loyalty. Let me kill these two kids.
01:19:47
Speaker
Well, I guess they're technically apprentices, but in my mind, they're all babies until they're warriors. Yeah. And Tigerstar says, let me let me just read you what he says.
01:20:00
Speaker
Really, Darkstripe? A prisoner can defeat you, but you think you can take on two apprentices?
01:20:09
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Every cat is so Darkstripe is not having a good time. But Tigerstar says, no, these apprentices might be ah useful to me later on, so just put them back in the cave. We'll keep them as prisoners.
01:20:24
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And Firestar is so relieved, because, like you, he knows that Graystripe is not going to just watch his kids die. So he's like, oh, thank God. Okay, we can come up with a plan now. We can save them. We don't have to just go in and get ourselves killed. and Ravenpaw is like...
01:20:45
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Obviously, I'm in on this. Like, I'm not part of the clan, but I'm not going to let those two fucking kids die, especially because I hate Tigerstar. Mm I think we're starting to see why targetgerlaw Tiger Tigerstar, whatever, ah didn't say anything to Darkstripe.
01:21:06
Speaker
Because it's like, yeah, there's a reason why i didn't include you, man. Because he knows he can't do fucking anything. Which is funny because... But then here you are showing up on my doorstep and it's like... I guess I'll take him back.
01:21:22
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Like, ah, fucking hell. This guy. Because, like, all the things that Darkstrip has failed at so far is like... We could make a whole list of it. He couldn't get the kits away. he couldn't kill this one weak-ass prisoner. he couldn't kill Sorrelkit. Like...
01:21:42
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And I think Tigerclaw was his mentor, if I'm remembering right. Yeah, his mentor was Tigerclaw. So Tigerclaw is probably extra embarrassed about this.
01:21:53
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He's like, oh man, I guess I couldn't teach him to be good enough. Like, I did everything I could, but this motherfucker. So they come up with a plan, and Ravenpaw goes into camp and because none of the cats will recognize him. He goes into camp and pretends to be one Tigerstar's warriors. Well, it's convenient because not all of the clan cats know each other.
01:22:23
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So like he's betting on just if a river clan cat sees him, they'll think he's shadow clan. And, you know, and so he goes to Jagged Tooth, who's guarding Featherpaw and Stormpaw. And he's like, hey, Tigerstar wants to talk to you. He told me to guard the kits while you're away.
01:22:42
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And Jagged Tooth is like, who the fuck are you? Ravenpaw is like. Okay, do you want to do you want to go against what Tigerstar has to say? like So he gets him to go away. And then obviously lets Firestar and Graystripe in.
01:23:04
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And they also see Mistyfoot in there. What is she doing? She's being held prisoner. oh Well then, yeah,
01:23:15
Speaker
Why wasn't she out there then? That's an interesting question. don't know. I guess they're taking their time or something. So they managed to get all the cats out. Their plan works. um There is... Their plan of having Ravenclaw distract the people so they could sneak them out? Like...
01:23:38
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There's only one guard? They like they catch up with them. So they're like, oh, no, we're doomed. But then they are far enough that a ThunderClan patrol hears and comes to fight off the TigerClan cats. So they get away.
01:23:52
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Nice.
01:23:55
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And they yeah they're going to shelter all three cats in ThunderClan, obviously, because they're like, well, You have nowhere else to go. Well, and that's and that's great because Graystripe gets his kids back.
01:24:10
Speaker
And we love Mistyfoot. She's awesome. Yeah, i I feel like Mistyfoot's going to follow in her mom's footsteps. that You mean her mom's paw steps? Well, her name isn't Misty Paw anymore. ah Oh, wow. I never thought about that.
01:24:29
Speaker
Her warrior name is essentially her apprentice name. Damn. Yeah. ah
01:24:37
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Who was the RiverClan leader before Leopardfur? Crookedstar. Crookedstar, yeah. I guess wasn't very original in the name. Not like Firestar.
01:24:52
Speaker
Yeah. Laura, this is... I can tell already this is going to... This is going to have to be two episodes. Oh, my gosh. There's so much happening. There's a lot happening. And ah we can't talk for like six hours on a podcast. So we will split it. I mean, we could, but people wouldn't listen.
01:25:12
Speaker
i wouldn't listen to it. I would. If it was Charlie Cox making a podcast, I would definitely listen to it. um Yeah, you would. Yeah, I was listening. i was looking for more podcasts with Charlie Cox on them the other day, and I found like three. So that's great.
01:25:30
Speaker
i think you're I think you would explode if Charlie Cox and Neil Newbon were on a podcast together. That would be fucking amazing.
01:25:42
Speaker
I thought you were going to say if we got him to guest on one of our podcasts, that would be cool, too. Yeah. i mean, yeah, that would be cool. either Either one of them. Because I'm getting to meet him on May 16th. Yes, you know yes, you are.
01:25:57
Speaker
Which I think this will come out after that. Yeah, but I believe so. Or not. are Listener in the future, only you know.
01:26:11
Speaker
Well, we can look at a calendar and figure it out. No, no, no, no, no. We're not into that. But in the meantime, if you want to talk to us about Charlie Cox or Warrior Cats, I guess.
01:26:22
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But if you like for real, if you want to talk to me about Charlie Cox, that's cool too. ah Or Daredevil in general. You can join our Discord, which is linked in the episode description or on our website at GlitterFoxMedia.com.
01:26:35
Speaker
And while you're there, why don't you check out some of our other shows? Because yeah, we have other shows. We like making podcasts. Yes, we do. And we make a bunch of them. Like...
01:26:47
Speaker
We fix games. The flagship.
01:26:52
Speaker
Our heart, our soul, our dick joke podcast. Yes. The flagship leading our, our, our armada. The first one that's going to blow up probably because of its own.
01:27:08
Speaker
Probably due to its own nature. i don't know what I'm thinking. Okay. It's going to blow up real hard. yeah it is Anyway, it's a it's a podcast about video games where we talk about games and how we can make them better.
01:27:24
Speaker
And we talk about Pinocchio too. So if you want to some of that, go ahead and take a listen. Yes. with In fact, every episode we do in fact talk about Pinocchios. We may as well call it We Fix Pinocchios.
01:27:40
Speaker
Or we could just call it Gotta Be a Pinocchio. That's so true. Oh, no. We're not calling it that. No, but that would be a really great name for a spinoff show.
01:27:54
Speaker
Holy fuck, Laura. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Let's all just come together and unite under the fact that just because you grow older doesn't mean you have to grow up.
01:28:09
Speaker
I don't think that's what it is It's just because you get older. I said grow last time, though. Oh, well, okay. We'll roll with it. Bye!