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Label She's The Bomb - 1 - Community Records (w/ Stuck Lucky)
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By popular demand CPSC is moving up a fan favorite segment to a full length episode in a new series: Label She's The Bomb! For the first iteration Checkered Past welcomes Tennessee Ska-Punkers Stuck Lucky to talk about Community Records! Will and Jonsy start by discussing their Checkered Past, the origin of the band and swap stories from the Dark Ages. Then with the Checkered Past Crew they dig in on Comm Recs key early releases including the proggy hardcore of Fatter Than Albert, the political Ska Punk of Public Access and the emotional heaviness of A Billion Ernies. It's all capped off with a discussion on Las Cabriolas and a game of The Name Game 3.0.
Hosts: Celine, Rob and Joey
Engineer: Joey
Editor: Cutman
Skassociate Producer: Chris Reeves of Ska Punk International
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Transcript
Introduction and Hosts' Banter
00:00:00
Speaker
On this episode, it's one for the dumpster generation. Hope you listened to the last minute because we use our hindsight to do a full length episode on community records on Checkered Past, the Skycast.
00:00:32
Speaker
What up checkerheads welcome to checker past this God cast of Selene and Rob the show were a big easy star all stars and Know la la la la la la you know that whole thing explore the history and impact of a different band each episode Hope to bring a new fans along the way. I'm Rob and this is my sister and co-host Selene you last time I understood what you were saying yeah this time I have no idea what you're saying. It's all New Orleans stuff like you you knew orlean or so Hey, it's our co-host with the most toast Joey I got the easy star all stars. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing was an MU 330 reference. Oh, okay You did a thing you did a thing happy birthday Joey Hey, thank you turn. I'll come on your birthday. You don't get abducted by serial killers, but I do mine
00:01:16
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I don't know. It's because you're the, you're the main guy. You're the pod guy. Is that, is that what it is? yeah I don't want to be the main guy anymore. Also, I, I was a dark kid too, I guess. Oh yeah. and That was a, that was on my birthday. On your birthday. I have to be here to hook up the mics and stuff. Right.
00:01:33
Speaker
So, it doesn't, nobody hears anything if I'm not here. Right. That's true. Otherwise we're just, what are we talking to? We're talking to nobody. Exactly. Actually, we're talking to a a couple. Oh, what a good segue. but try And then I tripped on it. Speaking of talking to people. Talking to people. They are two members of Tennessee's Scott Punk or Stuck Lucky whose new album Counting Curse is available everywhere now through SBI Records. Will and Jonesy are here. Hi y'all. How's it going? Hi.
00:02:03
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Hey, y'all. What is your history with skull music, your checkered past, if you
Guests from Stuck Lucky Join
00:02:08
Speaker
will? So I think my I guess my checkered past is um I grew up like in the time when like boss tones, real big fish hit the airwaves. Like I was I started playing in middle school bands, ah trombone, because I wanted to play drums, but everybody wanted to play drums. And the only instrument my family had that was passed down was this trombone from the University of Detroit that was like doodoo brown it was like brown color it was so old and they're like here's this so I didn't have to like we didn't have to pay monthly rentals which I think was like 40 bucks a month and this was like
00:02:43
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1996. So I was like, all right, well, I get to play this. um But like, once I found out, like, because I was listening to the radio, like, that's all how I figured out music, like, what was what was hot. And like, once Real Big Fish came out, I realized, you know, like, oh, like, there are bands that have horns. So I was like, really excited. So I kind of grew up through middle school.
00:03:04
Speaker
um like listening to that. I remember, I think that first year, that Christmas, I got a $50 gift card to Best Buy. And I went hog wild in the CD section. I got ah the Keep Your Receipts, EP by Rubik Fish, the self-titled MU330 album, Band Geek Mafia. he and then i got And I got the Fury of the Aquabats, and then I got the first Five Iron Frenzy album.
00:03:31
Speaker
Like, what was it? Upbeats and beatdowns? Upbeats and beatdowns, yeah. All right. So, like, I had all that, so... As much as I don't really like Scott music, I had a lot of like the new third wave type stuff. So I listened to all the way through high school. And if I was a couple of years younger, I definitely would have been like a new metal, like Papa Roach kid, because I remember, I remember seeing them on like ah TRL and going, this is pretty cool, but it doesn't have horns. So like, I was like, I was like a year removed from like being very angry and wearing
00:04:04
Speaker
jinkos. So that's what kind of Yeah, like you it there's still time. I mean, they're coming back. I'm waiting for Heelys to come back or at least can yeah to be affordable because ah yeah I've always wanted a pair of Heelys or soaps. You know what soaps are? Oh, yeah. Soap shoes. like so like So you could just like grind ah like a park bench or whatever with just your shoes instead of having to wear roller blades or have a skateboard. Yeah, you could still break your ankle.
00:04:33
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ah They didn't have wheels on them. They had like a thing in the middle of them So if you jumped with the middle of your feet like an ice like a tiny little ice skate um know this itly It like a plastic like smooth like bar kind of like if you were grinding a rail. Oh, I get it without wheels That's so silly. yeah Yeah, very silly. I'm sure it's not good for your like your foot posture anything like that.
00:04:57
Speaker
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00:05:39
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00:05:41
Speaker
The one streaming platform that would have them on there. but Yeah. That's, uh, that's my, I guess my past, like I, I went all the way through, like I bought all the real big fish albums up through cheer up. And then after that, it kind of fell off and, uh, yeah, I don't have any older siblings. So I had to kind of find my way of like, you know, what is Scott and what is not and what I liked. So yeah. So like, what's your Scott listening these days, like after like the band and whatnot?
Connection to Ska Community
00:06:13
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Um, man, honestly,
00:06:16
Speaker
shit. Probably like Tokyo Scott Paradise Orchestra is hell yeah probably one one of my favorite bands. As much as I'll like say like, I don't like Scott music, there's just like a certain period of like time. Basically, I don't like Third Wave at all really anymore. I say that all the time. yeah I say it all the time. you're in there I know. I know. I could just go do and people are like, you're in a Scott band. I'm like, I guess so. Like, I have a, I'm on a Scott podcast. Yeah. i What are we going to do?
00:06:44
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I've been in a traditional ska bands traditional like more reggae bluebeats and I'm in this band which I can I guess is a ska band like I'm not going to be one of those guys like but like Tokyo ska it's really hard like I like the slackers and I like Hepcat like I love Hepcat but any And honestly, like anybody that we've played with, toured with, like friends, like I'll give their stuff a listen and I'll be like, Hey, yeah, that that was great. Like great album. And then I won't ever listen to it again. I'm not going to name any names, but like, I have to do it all the time. Yeah. no I get it. Yeah. i I get it. Like, and I love, like, I see you're wearing a, wearing a mutiny hat. Like I love mutiny. Like I love, I just honestly, for me, like if I know the people in the bands, like I'm more likely to listen to them. Like if they're good people, like, and.
00:07:33
Speaker
I guess the music comes second, but like I have more memories attached to like the people I know than like picking up. I'm trying really hard not to name names and just like, not that I'm going to piss anybody off, but it's just like, I'm not going to pick up like a CD by like some hot new band from like Omaha, where I'm like, I i don't give a shit, honestly. But if I've met you and we've played with you, like Yeah, I'll check your stuff out. And like y'll I'll buy the record. like I might not never listen to it, but like I want to support the like the people I know. So it's it's like pretty much anything current. So like I have a lot of like SPI stuff, a lot of bad time stuff, where you know I'm just excited people are putting stuff out. so Yeah, that's ultimately what we're all about, too. Yeah, and there's um there's only so much time in the day, right? Yeah. You can't just be listening to everybody's record all the time, right? Hell yeah. oh yeah
00:08:22
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ah So, Jonesy, same question. What is your checkered past? It's just funny to hear that Will could have been me if he was a couple of years older. The jinkos, the two bands I played in in high school, we did like new metal covers and smashing pumpkins and shit like that. Nice. Yeah, so played drums for a long time through high school was really bad at it. um And I remember I made a friend from Southern California named Andrew Jerome, and he introduced me to all that like Southern California, Scott and punk stuff. So it was I mean, he was obsessed with No Doubt. So I got into No Doubt first, um got into Sublime like everybody else. Pennywise bands like that.
00:09:10
Speaker
But it would kind of like it was a good entry point to me because I guess I was like a freshman in high school um and kind of went down the rabbit hole and Operation Ivy and suicide machines really were the things that kind of changed everything um and got me into that. But I think it was because and I've talked about this before, but it's like the more aggressive edge because I was into like things that people consider shitty now, except for like deaf tones and stuff like that. But um the more aggressive side of it kind of got me yeah into it. And that was kind of the rabbit hole that I went through that got me into like traditional stuff like
Evolution of Ska Scene
00:09:46
Speaker
that. And the first time I heard Desmond Decker um got me into the traditional stuff. So that that's what I do now is I just collect a bunch of old Scott and reggae stuff. um And I've talked about this before, but AK Rudy was a band from Nashville that did a bunch of traditional standards and stuff like that. So they kind of ah brought me down that path.
00:10:06
Speaker
more than anything, but angry, Scott. Yeah, I like the angry and the traditional stuff like um that's about where we learned for the most part. i say Yeah, like the more violent and the more chill like it's like smoking weed or I'm fucking pissed off. That's it right there. i'd say Yeah, that's that's where I like to is like, I don't really like the middle ground and I hate sublime other than their Hong Kong food cover.
00:10:36
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Yeah, I love that compilation. Joey has a sublime tramp stamp, I'll say it as many times as I can. Oh my god. Really? We're going to be best friends. He made an enemy and a best friend with one fact. Yeah. Is it the sun or is it just sublime in the gothic neck? No, it's the sun. It's the sun and it's crying into an ocean. Yeah. I omitted the mushroom forehead though, because I was like 17.
00:11:06
Speaker
It's not bad. Hey, Robin Robin the hood was cold when I was like 15, man. I love that shit. So yeah, it totally. me Right. Yeah. I was digging, digging through my uncle. Like I have an uncle who's seven years older than me. So he's like technically an uncle, but he was like 18. So I was like 11 and he would come over to visit with my grandmother. And I remember going through his like duffel bag because why the fuck not? I found all his CDs. And I remember like listening to a sublime thing and sitting there like with a CD player just going,
00:11:35
Speaker
this sucks. So I and then I ended up listening to like Temple of Dog and like that's what he had like, and he had like three copies of the single soundtrack that ah like grunge love story movie. And he's like, love that soundtrack. yeah like He caught me like, li like rummaging through his bag, which I'm pretty sure he had weed or something in there. And he was just realized I was looking through and he's like, Do you want one of these? I was like, Yeah, give me that one. Because like,
00:11:59
Speaker
this one. the sun one i know like but um you dont really but forty hours for freedom is the with the sign yeah yeah like i was just like i don't know i don't want this one he's like it's pretty good i'm like no it sucks and i think like thinking like i was ten years old just being like I don't like this at all. So I like cartoons. So that's how I like spun off. fucking hateer yeah like but I remember in high school, like there was one guy who could play the trombone solo from a wrong way. And I was like, that's pretty cool, I guess. But then when I was like this song, lyric like the lyrics and everything, I'm just like,
00:12:35
Speaker
i mean we're from middle tennessee like middle of nowhere apple lashes so it's just like i can't relate to like orange county bullshit so but yeah yeah that's fair i guess yeah it was a good all i'm saying is it was a good entry point you know it got me into like yeah and i still have a soft spot for old no doubt so um oh but i'd say he's also in a no doubt cover band called faux doubt yep Just extra friend points. Celine, are you fucking with me? I'm not. I'm not. He plays face. Joey, you and I, but we're going to be best buddies, okay? We played our leg debut show like Halloween, and it was pretty sick. Well, I have a spare bedroom here. All my comments are here.
00:13:20
Speaker
My dogs come in here and fart a lot, but I have an extra bet for you if you want to come. dog' see yeah Just come and hang and chat. yeah listen listen to i got a good record collection but it's okay said he little bunch of desmond decker yeah been the tennessee guy ready to go now yeah e' But I'd say like modern bands now like and I'm not blowing smoke up anybody's ass because they're my friends But flying raccoon suit that last record is ridiculous Mutiny we've listed listen to them for like three hours yesterday Dissidente I mean, yeah
00:14:01
Speaker
And I don't know, it's just crazy because it's like, I remember saying this back in college, we were hanging out at our local like drinking spot all the time. And ah some random fucking hipster was like, what do you listen to? And I was like, I listened to all my friends bands and they were like, Oh, that's really unfortunate. And I was like, have you heard them? They're wonderful. And like speaking of community records, and that's when we were on community and it was like,
00:14:24
Speaker
So much good shit came out then and like I feel like there's so much good shit coming out now that um can't be mad at it. So
Origins of Stuck Lucky
00:14:31
Speaker
yeah. And so I guess that's that kind of ropes to the next question, which is like, what's the history of the band? Like, how did Stuck Lucky come about? Community College, one of our mutual friends, this our buddy Sean, we called him Blackheart because He's a bad motherfucker, but um he introduced, introduced me to the rest of the band. Um, they said they were looking for a drummer because their drummer was going through some issues at the time. Um, so we used to go, actually went to go see Aquabats back in the day with them. And that got me even further more into the whole scene. I went to go try out to play drums and then the drummer showed up. So they're like,
00:15:09
Speaker
Do you sing? And I was like, yeah, I did a few cover songs with my old band. I can give it a go. And we just pretended like nothing happened. And I did a few songs and tried out two times singing and I did a couple of these cover songs and yeah, they asked me to join. And then we met Will like how many years later?
00:15:34
Speaker
I still don't have a definitive answer when you guys started the ban. It's like 2000 or 2001, 2002. 2000. Finally. Okay. Yep. I saw them as a band like three times before I joined. And I happened to meet Lee in Murfreesboro, like the college town. Jonesy and I were going to the same college. And my best my oldest and best friend, Liz, she's like a social butterfly. She was dragging me to all these concerts. I didn't go to shows until I was 18. Like I didn't have a car.
00:16:08
Speaker
i would I ended up posting shows at like the the town I grew up in like south of Nashville, but I didn't go to like actual like venue shows. um So I saw Stuck Lucky like three times and I thought they were They were okay. like They were fun. I saw them open for the slackers, which I was like, all right, this is kind of cool. But I remember seeing Lee, he used to work in this video store, and I just started talking to him. I was like, hey, I saw you play the other day. And he was like really nice. And he mentioned that they were trying out horn players, because they used to have just one trumpet player.
00:16:43
Speaker
and my friend from like middle high school, we had a ah shitty like Oscar slash anti flag inspired like high school band and he played trumpet and we both just came and tried it out and this was 2004. And then I just We just kind of hung out all the time after that. Like I was for the third time to bring up Aquabats. I think it was like ah so I went to meet before I actually like try to try it out for the band. I meant i went to ah meet Lee and our bass player Andy to go see Aquabats and Laterhose and Lucille in Atlanta.
00:17:18
Speaker
And Lee's car didn't work. So we just ended up hanging out while they like drank in this like really shitty shotgun house with the floors were so like wet. I don't know. Do you know what I'm talking about, Jonesy? Yeah. Andy's old place. But Andy would take like knives, and he would just drop them into the floor, and they would just go all the way through. like Just sink into the carpet slash floorboards. But yeah, I joined up in 2004.
00:17:44
Speaker
and I remember like meeting Jonesy for the first time. I think at Andy's apartment, ah I think because you guys were talking about like, I remember you being like, Oh man, I don't know if we should play this show with Big D in the kids table. And I kind of like jumped in. I was like, What are you talking about? We got to play the show because at the time Big D was like one of my favorite bands. So like,
00:18:08
Speaker
Like, good luck and how it goes. Like, I really love those albums and the Gypsy Hill EP. So. Well, in 2004, that would have been when they were basically them and Streetlight were like the only Ska band in town like that. Yeah, that were what worth going to. Yeah, that was that was my second show with Stuck Lucky was opening for Streetlight Manifesto, Big D.
Playing for Passion in Ska
00:18:30
Speaker
ah Was it ASOB and highest school football heroes?
00:18:35
Speaker
So they that was, I think, to some people, it's like a dream bill. And at the time, I i didn't care about any of the other bands. I just wanted to see Big D. so But yeah, it's just since then, i've I've been in the band for 20 goddamn years at this point. That's crazy. yeah You're telling me. Jesus. That's a long, long time.
00:18:59
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how the fuck we stayed a band for so long, honestly. That's my good, though. and Congratulations. Thanks. Where's my prize? How has the scene changed over the last 20 years? What have you noticed come and gone i've playing playing a band for this long? I don't know why I'm laughing. Well, i go Okay, so since like, everybody loves talking to Jonesy, my mom loves Jonesy more than she loves me. ah Sorry. What? Word. it so yeah What up? He said sorry, be a better conversationalist and maybe your mom will like you more. Hey, I mean, if my mom wanted to talk to me through email, I think Jonesy and I have the same head size, but Jonesy's body is proportional to his head. So maybe you're just like more aesthetically pleasing.
00:19:55
Speaker
but i like one I think it was like one one birthday, she was like, you know, kind of thing like, oh, yeah, happy birthday. And something my dad was like, oh, yeah. She was like complaining about how big your head was when she was like trying to push you out. And I was like, yeah. She just like kind of walked by is like, yep, still big. And I was like, thanks, mom. ah But ah anyway, I know I'll loop back around in the question. I'm pretty good at like spinning off and coming back. But uh,
00:20:22
Speaker
ah since i like i do all the emails i don't know how the fuck that happened i end up started doing all the social media and stuff like i've i've watched like we were like really good on myspace like we had like 18 000 friends or whatever like we had a lot of people like we were like connecting and stuff and then watching that die having to pick it up on facebook watching that turn into the hellscape that it is and like doing an instagram but it's just uh seeing all the bands like like all the comm rec bands like that we became friends with and just like hooking up with them and then watching them all peter out slowly and just seeing like the kind of ska scene and I guess I know like new tone has been coined as like you know like I guess this era of like ska like fourth wave or whatever you want to call it and
00:21:14
Speaker
sort of like not trying to bring up other podcasts, but having Aaron talk about us as being in the dark ages of Ska, I guess, like we didn't really like consider it that, cause we've actively been a band since basically 2004 ish, like when we started doing, like kind of, we had like a solid lineup, but just like watching, as you were saying, like Streetlight Manifesto come up and then how they kind of off shot shot into like what they are now, like a cult band kind of,
00:21:43
Speaker
But just like watching the scene kind of like try and rise up and it just gets squashed down like every, I wouldn't say every couple of years. Cause like the interrupters kind of brought it back, I guess a little bit like, but not really. They had like one or two songs on the radio, like here, like you'd hear it like every now and then, but hopefully I'm answering your question. And it's, I think you are. Yeah, for sure. Like yeah just the perspective is
Ska's Marketability and Sincerity
00:22:08
Speaker
interesting. And like, I think when we talk about the dark ages too,
00:22:12
Speaker
I guess what we're thinking of is at that time, Scott was at its least marketable, right? If you were gonna be a band in the mid 2000s to 2015, you were doing it for the love of it, not because there's any monetary gain to be made from it. Yeah, I mean- I'd say that, yeah. Dude, the reason that we started this is because there was nobody in Nashville doing it. It was, you know, because we loved, like, Link 80.
00:22:39
Speaker
sort of jelly beans, bands like that. And yeah, and well, those are the songs that we knew. And those are the songs that like, fuck, we tried out doing, I did Johnny quest. Thanks for sellouts and, um, you know,
00:22:52
Speaker
different up Ivy songs. So it was kind of just like we we all knew those songs and that was a good step forward for us. And you know, we've always loved it. We didn't give a shit what anybody was going to pay us because we knew we were never going to get paid playing in a band. um So it was just kind of, you know, we've always done it because we loved it. so and Which was not the the, not how people thought of doing it in the nineties. Like when Scott bands were coming up, they were, even if they,
00:23:16
Speaker
Like what they were doing, like even Mephistopheles was trying to get a paycheck, you know what I mean? Like, yeah I think like that was the big mentality shift. I feel like we're just sitting here talking shit now. Is that what that's supposed to be? Yeah, that's what this, especially the ones who will never listen to this show. Like, don't worry about it. Like our episode on Goldfinger was, we were pretty brutal. Yeah, I mean right rightfully so. I called real big fish white noise.
00:23:44
Speaker
ive You were fucking brutal to bands and I absolutely love it. because a man Not the cool people, good human bands. Y'all's Midwest Sky episode, I was fucking dying laughing. I was like, she is just taking a shit on some of my favorite bands. i could nothing Fucking nails gone bad. I was like, are you serious? mean are you like I didn't listen to that episode, but like I think that not to like bring it back to a point because I like I loved I love talking shit. And one of the things was Jonesy was like, you're not allowed to go on a podcast by yourself because I will just start talking shit. But
Inclusivity in Ska Scene
00:24:26
Speaker
I remember we played we we didn't play a show it was because we used to have a thing called southern ska.com. Our friend Nick would like book all these bands, like in like 2004 to like 2007 where it was like Django deals gone bad westbound train. And
00:24:42
Speaker
not I'm not lumping Django into that because he has like way more like history, but like he was still doing stuff. But i to me, bands like Deals Gone Bad and Westbound Train is just a giant jerk off motion of like white white dude. yeah You can put your heads like where it's just like, we're supposed to be serious now because I feel like that's what the term was. is like Scott had got this like you know real big fish where it got popular and then it it morphed into the, you know, the, the fucking swing shit. And then people are like, all right, we got to bring, we got to bring it back to its roots. We got to do this stuff. And then you get deals gone bad. I remember when we went to that show where it was deals gone bad. Do city hub city Stompers, which is, I love hub city Stompers. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Fucking best man. Yeah. Django and hub sea Stompers were fucking rad on that show. Westbound train and deals gone back and suck my ass.
00:25:36
Speaker
like I think like you can put your hand head in your hands all you want but like part of this where like I hate i hate that era of of of the like the scene where it was just like let's be serious and i'll I won't like I won't lump in bands like pie tasters like Hepcat bands that were like kind of doing it before but bands that kind of came up where it was just like this who gives a fuck thing where it's like I ride a moped. I don't care. Like I, I hate that type of music where it's like, you can tell like you you're talking about the pretentious side of it where it's just like, I'm going to be an asshole because I can be an asshole. And like, I don't, I don't know. I don't know any of these guys. Well, I don't know them personally, but it's just like, since we've been around for so long, uh, like,
00:26:26
Speaker
We've, I've booked the toasters in Nashville nine goddamn times and they're a great band. They're just not for me, but it's just like having to like deal with like ska bookers and I'm not going to name names or like companies, but like i ah we have, we have some, there's there's some stuff that I probably can't talk about because it will like make people legitimately butt hurt and angry, but like we're,
00:26:55
Speaker
Dude, shut the fuck up, man. We got to get onto this show. and okay i'm just sitting I'm loving this. I'm just saying, like it's just like weird being in a band that's considered in the dark ages of Ska and like seeing all these bands on Comrec and stuff, like pour their heart and soul into this stuff and like some of our best friends. and It's like this music where It's not pretentious. It's
Community Records Collaborations
00:27:20
Speaker
just fun. It's sweaty basements like ah VFW halls just like playing, you know, like midsize venues to like 12 people where you're like, there's nobody fucking here. But then like on the on the flip side, like we we came up as a band to our very
00:27:39
Speaker
Piddling success that we have right now where we're still like not even I'd say we have a name I guess but like we're not mustard plug We're not less than Jake obviously like we're not those bands it like there's just a dead zone where those bands were still doing stuff but it I Wouldn't say it's for a paycheck but like bands like that like going going up through the scene and Watching it just dry up I'm sure it's tough like being bands like that. And I i love that like Less Than Jake and Luster Plug are like seeing sort of resurgence kind of now, even though they're not doing like the Project Revolution tour, which I thought was like, what what was that? Was that Snoop Dogg, Lincoln Park and Less Than Jake or whatever?
00:28:21
Speaker
Does anyone know what I'm talking about? That's crazy. No, I don't know. That's an insane lineup. This is when Less Than Jake was on Warner Brothers, but they it was like some sort of like festival tour where it was Snoop Dogg, Lincoln Park, something else. It was like taste of chaos, but with Less Than Jake and Snoop Dogg on it. That's crazy. I want to go to that. That's amazing. And Mindless Self Indulgence. Mindless Self Indulgence, unfortunately. There you go. ah Yeah.
00:28:48
Speaker
They were, we love, I love that band until I found out what, uh, so I love them as I, so my, so my dad defined bomber, dude. but We talked about doing a cover, like one of their songs. What's the song? Like, uh, I wish I wanted to dance. We wanted to dance. Like really, but somebody is like, do you do it with horns? That would have been sick. Yes. That's the idea. And then that shit came out the next week.
00:29:14
Speaker
Oh, that sounds so good. We're going to do a Manson song and then all that crazy shit came out, too. I was like, hey, apparently, can't you be a cool, lanky, spooky guy and not be a pervert? Don't touch anybody. I think is clear. Yeah, I was going to say, I think you're in Vasquez is OK. I heard you talk about that, dude. I love, love that shit, man. JTHM for life. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to dig through my books here and I'll pull out some. Yeah.
00:29:40
Speaker
I say like I don't like Third Wave Scott. There's bands I just like. like I love Hub City Stompers. That's why we covered them like on this our last record, like bands like that. And I'm trying to like segue into something usable, but I think just seeing how it it changed and just seeing like Bad Time rise up, which is really cool, like seeing kind of a scene ah grow out of like not nothing, but there's just always been bands like like us, like We Are The Union, Kill Lincoln,
00:30:10
Speaker
that just have always like kind of trudged along and in the shadow of like bands like Mustard Plug and Lesson Jake, Suicide Machine. So it's cool like how that's, there's kind of like a, not for us really, but like there's a level playing field now for all these bands that have been around for 10 plus years getting to play with like their heroes and influences. So it's, it's cool as shit to see them finally get their fucking dues, which is, yeah you know, like we've played with,
00:30:38
Speaker
watch you forever and just to like see what they're doing now is amazing. I'm just super proud of that. Do you think that guy exists? Like that guy that hit on Jonesy's girlfriend? Like, I don't know if the ska ego guy, like you're kind of describing like a rockabilly energy. Like I'm like, I don't know if that, I don't know if you can have like an ego and be like, I'm Mr. Cool guy. Like I don't think, I just don't think you can be able to walk around with that kind of an attitude and be in a ska band in this day and age. I felt like there's other bands you've talked to apart from like the Chicago area who can talk about that whole thing of like,
00:31:12
Speaker
There's certain cities that like cut shit up into little tiny genres. And like, if you're not in their genre, then you're not cool or you're a dickhead or something like that. Nashville's never really played that role whenever it comes to like, quote unquote, alt music. Like we just want to play music and have fun. And like, that's what I love.
00:31:32
Speaker
you're not country right so you have to all yeah i mean but even though like we like alternative country guys and like you know country death dudes would come and play with us it was never a big deal like lost dog street band like they used to start out like playing acoustic guitar after we played like nobody gave a shit. It was just like, we're just kind of hanging out and having fun. And, you know, the people who talk shit were just kind of like, you know, fuck them. Who cares? Like, that's why that stuff's always kind of rolled off of our back. or you need those You need those mixed bills. It's like, yeah, part of it right. But we met like even up in Chicago and in the Midwest where there's this little like sectioned off scenes where people talk shit about each other. Like we just go on tour with those bands and go and play in other cities. Yeah. They have a blast. You know, you don't have to you don't have to put up with that shit.
00:32:19
Speaker
So I think that's actually like a pretty good segue to get into like the core of this episode, which is we're gonna talk about a few community records bands, right? We got a few lined up. So what what made you decide to to talk about these versus some of the other choices that we were looking at? Well, because Will and I would never agree on a band that we'd wanna cover 100%. But no, seriously, it's like a lot of our favorite bands are bands we know. And like I think that there's all these bands that we played with that put their heart and soul into what they did and didn't get the recognition they deserved. And we wish they were still around. That kind of has something to do with that, I think. It's it's all it's weird like seeing all of our... like I have like around my room, I have a bunch of like community records, tours, and like shows.
00:33:10
Speaker
And just seeing these bands like Fatter Than Albert, Flaming Tsunamis, A Billion Earnies, Public Access, and like I would group We Are The Union in there, but they are like, they're kind of their own thing now, which is really rad. But like, I i think like those four bands are like, we played with them the most. Like they would, they were like, more so like A Billion Earnies were just like always on tour. But we all, we saw like,
00:33:37
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any of those bands like two three times a year, at least, or we would like do the community records tour for like two three weeks like we would. It was just like yeah those are some of my favorite bands and like some of my favorite memories of just like. Just going out and.
00:33:54
Speaker
I don't know. Yeah, I just I pay more attention to stuff like that just because I'd get to see them every night just sweating their ass off. And just so it's it's I would say it's crazy to me that we're almost like you're like cousins with those people now. Like I still talk to people from each of those bands to this day. Yeah. You know, like it's awesome. Ryan Lavelle and I were talking yesterday.
00:34:19
Speaker
Literally, just shooting the shit, talking about his new band, you know, like Skank Willy and Ernie's, if you don't know. Yeah, yeah, like him and Brian are in that band. It's cool, man.
Friendships and Community Records Era
00:34:29
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You form a bond, especially when you tour with bands all the time. Yeah, it's like, and I wouldn't, I wouldn't say like, I couldn't rank who's my favorite out of all four of those. Like, I don't want to do that. But it is cool seeing, like, I just love seeing all them play in different bands, like with bad operation. And then, you know, at one point,
00:34:49
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Uh, all people like Greg and Deere are doing that. And then from public access, they had slaughterhouse chorus, which is more of a country punk. And then J and Bob are playing in girth control. Have you heard girth control? Yeah. Yeah. yeah So I didn't realize they're in that band. That's funny. Yeah. yeah it's ja Like Jay, I think, uh, yeah, it's just like stuff like that. Like I just love seeing friends just keep doing stuff. I'm just glad even though.
00:35:15
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I think say The Dark Ages. I don't know. Fuck it. We're going to we're going to coin it. God damn it. ah But just seeing bands like that where I'm like these bands are incredible and just seeing them peter out from like band struggles, interpersonal stuff, like mental health issues where just the band just evaporates like almost like some of like basically overnight, like.
00:35:37
Speaker
that like a lot of those bands just, they just disappeared. And you see them like pick stuff back up, like later in different iterations of stuff. So yeah, I would say, I think us being able to like, ah even just like talk about them, because it is a period that I don't know if we're qualified, I i think we we've spent a lot of time with all those bands, but like Greg and DeRay talking about Community Records, but that that's a whole different thing. It's like, it's a whole different facets of it. But like, we really only hung out with all those bands. Like we did kind of the first part of the community records where they they were like, we're going to be a DIY Scott Punk label and Greg and D-Ray, like I would say handpicked, but like just, I guess, just found different bands across the country. And we just were like, yeah, fuck it. Let's be friends. And it just worked out. So it was really cool just seeing all that happen.
00:36:31
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I love it. And that's going to be kind of the core of what we're going to talk
Origins of Community Records
00:36:34
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about. And I think just looking at the time now is a good time for us to probably take a break. And then when we get back, we'll run through the records.
00:36:46
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Welcome back to Checkered Past. We're here with Stuck Lucky, and we're about to talk about community records. So this is a full length episode of something we like to call Label. She's the bomb. Yeah.
00:37:01
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ah listen Ah, this is a good time. It all comes back around, man. It all comes back around. All right, let's enter the time, Skosheen.
00:37:21
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We recorded that, Joey. Keelan. Our friend Keelan. Friend Keelan. He does our trombonist theme, and he usually does our sound-alike themes when we do our bracket bracket months as well.
00:37:35
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Yeah. our Our theme is a Mad Bomber Society from Edmonton, but pretty much all the other songs are done by Keelan. Yeah. Yeah. ah Time scotching takes us back to 2004 to the hot, jazzy streets of the Big Easy, NOLA. Hot, jazzy streets. Yeah. A local band of Tufts.
00:37:55
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was looking to bring their beloved ska to the south. Tall order when you considered the dark ages were only a year away in New Orleans was not exactly known for its thriving ska scene. It was known for its hot jazzy streets. Like what do you not know about- what little do you know about- Hot, shaky streets. Hot, jazzy- It feels more humid, I don't know, humid jazzy. Yeah, moist, moist streets. Yeah, I'll stop, I'll stop, I won't interrupt.
00:38:19
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Wiling away in the local scene, they opted to differentiate themselves by mixing ska-punk with hardcore jazz and prog to create a virtuosic and challenging take on the genre. With the energy of their live show, they began to produce their own music in hopes of gaining the attention of the established record labels, particularly Asian Man Records, where new band members Greg and D-Ray were interning.
Highlight on Fatter Than Albert
00:38:40
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Their band's name was fatter than Albert.
00:38:42
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And before Greg and DeRay's joining, they issued two albums in the span of two years. 2005's Most Poets Do in 2006 is Aaron's Runaway Imagination to local acclaim and regional fervor. However, this was not enough to sway Mike Park because in the late 90s, he had been the one that told Slow Gherkin to stop playing ska and knew it was a dying ship by the mid 2000s.
00:39:03
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With the closure of his own band the Chinkies, he was even less interested in investing in Morsca. So what is a local band to do when their hero turns them down? Start their own label of course, DIY baby! So Greg and DeRay formed Community Records, influenced by the arrogant sons of bitches and Jeff Rosenstock's quote unquote records.
00:39:23
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They committed to making the label a true community affair, focusing on co-op and collectivist activities to give back to the artist while also promoting and elevating local talent. The artistic spirit of New Orleans was the backbone of the label's mission.
00:39:36
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The first record was, of course, a compilation of friends and local bands, all with a similar mindset of crafting Ska or Punk in general that was visceral, challenging, deeply political.
Public Access' Unique Sound
00:39:46
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But that was only the beginning. In 2008, they issued two records that would be critical to the sound and ethos of Ska's Dark Ages. The aforementioned, Fatter Than Albert's third album a third album, Last Minute, was the first.
00:39:59
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Featuring Greg on the bass, John on the drums, Hunter on guitar, D-Ray on organ, and Bone, Michael as the vocalist, and Charlie on saxophone, it was recorded by Chris and Daniel of the Living Room Studio, a former Depression-era church in Nola. Musically and lyrically, it defied all expectations and influenced the generation of bands looking to get absolutely weird. So, let's talk about Fatter Than Albert with number two, Joey. Better.
00:40:26
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All right. I love this record. So I had never heard it before. yeah Neither. I heard i billion earnings. So for this podcast, that's the one I definitely heard before. But man, this was all new to me. And but and I listened to it yesterday. So what a birthday present indeed. Find this shit on vinyl. I'm telling you, it won't come off for like at least a month. The artwork is gorgeous.
00:40:54
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It is so cool, yeah.
00:41:01
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Hot damn. So cool. Yeah. What a weird choice. And it gets so heavy. I didn't expect, just in general, the band to get as heavy as it did. Yeah. It also just... Yeah. Go ahead. Lots of blue meanies in there. Oh yeah.
00:41:25
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I'm just sorry. I want to shut up and just listen. That's a good sign. Yeah.
00:41:48
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their singer, we call him Volpe. He's Volpe. Very crusty, crusty vocals. Yeah. In a good way. He's a little spider monkey, man. He just runs around like a little creep. I love it. ah A creep in a good way, not like... In a good way. No, no, no, no. No, he's a good creep. but good He's a sweet boy. A good creep.
00:42:06
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Not in a mindless self-indulgence way. No, not in a way.
00:42:10
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the So yeah, what I loved about this record was that nothing was off the table. Like they would just go, like they would just not have vocals for like five minutes in a song. Like they just, it didn't matter. It was all over the place.
Performing with Public Access
00:42:25
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Just they'd be jazzy. Then they would get so heavy. Like it was, we talked about this before, but I think the best records are the ones that surprise us.
00:42:33
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And this yeah was just, I was enthralled. I was literally not doing anything else while listening to this record, ah because I just was like, what's gonna happen next? Like, it's just a ah wild ride. I was just smoking weed. I was listening to this smoking. So were they? I was like, this is, the but yeah, i I think I was, I was sitting there and I was like, this is how they meant for this to happen. They had a couple of weed chins. Hard weed chins. Oh yeah. Give me a blow your fucking mind about this record.
00:43:03
Speaker
Hit me. I ah interviewed Greg and DeRay and um Hunter, the guitar player for like a final school project in college um about this album. And I didn't realize that like 27s part one and two and the last minute is about the movements of a hurricane coming in and flooding your house and destroying everything.
00:43:25
Speaker
and When you go back and listen to a crowd like a baby when he told me that cuz like going back and listening to it as the crescendo comes up cuz hunter lost his home And Katrina and like listening to that, it's just like, it's so much more moving now, like going back and listening to it. It's just, yeah, super powerful record. And that tracks cause it feels so proggy. Like it feels like it's telling a story in so many ways. Like you listen to it, like the middle part of the album, the whole thing builds up and then comes down and it has like the eye of the storm moment and then it builds up again. And it's just, yeah, listening to it all in its complete form really just like kind of makes sense now. jesus christ i hope i'm not speaking out of school here wait you're even i'm gwen stephanie because i just let you blow my mind and now you i'm done i'll see you later damn it again it's happened again
00:44:24
Speaker
ah ah So throw it over to you both. like Let's talk fatter than Albert. Let's talk about this record in particular, but what are your thoughts? I mean, you would have been around during this time. What was the band all about? Let's hear some stories. We're personal, really good friends with every member of this band, every iteration, I would say. um Still talk to John last week, their drummer. He's playing for Taj Motel Trio now. Fuck yeah, I love Taj Motel Trio. yeah What did he say?
00:44:53
Speaker
but he We were talking about, he's a he's a car guy. like He builds BMWs. So we were trying to figure out what was going on with my girlfriend's car. And we were just talking about that. That's it. That's what we were
Community Records Block Parties
00:45:05
Speaker
talking about. I'm glad I asked. Yeah, yeah yeah he's he's he's a sweetheart. I love him so much. So yeah, but we just, we used to tour all this out. I got to tell a Charlie story here. ah Charlie's their sax player and second singer. Um, him and Will have a special relationship together. They used to have hate offs where they would try to talk shit to each other and see which one taps out first. And we're basically roasting each other for like 20 minutes at a time in a parking lot outside of a venue. It would either be like outside someone's house that we were staying at the venue. I love Charlie, but he looks like a begrudged English professor.
00:45:46
Speaker
He'd always wear like a corduroy jacket, like glasses, and he always wore- House slippers. House slippers. That was the only shoes that I ever saw him wear. as either This motherfucker would walk into a living room- He's asking for He's He's a target, but he's also, he can he can burn people like you wouldn't believe. But he would walk into a house, drop down to his knees face first onto the ground and just fall asleep. Yep.
00:46:13
Speaker
it's okay Anomaly, anomaly, yeah. liked his He liked his alcohol a little bit, but- We all did, it's okay. like I think like hearing this record, because like we we played we first played with Fad of the Nalbert in 2006 when we were on tour at the FAD, and that's like we went on tour for a month, and we went down to New Orleans, and it was still pretty pretty messed up from Katrina, but like stuff was functioning. And I don't really remember anything Well, we saw him at Scott weekend. Uh, is that when we first saw him? I don't remember. Yeah. Well, they played across from us at the, yeah. So we like, that was the first time I ever heard of him saw him. And then like, I think we played with them later that month in New Orleans. But I remember, uh, one of our friends, like, uh,
00:47:00
Speaker
Chris Baltris, he had like this old, old like 1950s, like Chevy or something where like the bottom was rusted out. It was like a really classic car, but it was just beats of shit. And we're just driving over like all like the ruined streets, but just like seeing all that.
00:47:16
Speaker
in New Orleans and then just like hearing this band like Fattier Than Albert like I didn't know that stuff about the hurricane like how it kind of the songs model ah model after that but just seeing them like go off on stage and the musicianship and stuff like that was really crazy just seeing like how the scene and how hot and gross and jazzy the jazzy streets of new orleans as you probably it was uh metarias at the high ground was the first time we played there and uh
00:47:47
Speaker
That was also a dangerous building. And ah but like coming to play that show, I think we played with like Angry Banana and Samurai Deli or something like that. And how many fucking people showed up? It was insane. It was just like people were like in the face of such tragedy, like all these kids coming together to just fuck shit up and have a great time was totally inspiring. Like I'd never. Like we'd play a Knoxville and have shows like that, but like They just blew that shit out of the water. Like they own that. They own that city for a long time. and and And it made sense because they were incredible musicians and work so well off of each other. Yeah, like it like the musicianship, of especially DeRay, because I try not to like compare myself to horn players. I'm a C minus horn player at best. So like getting getting to play with people like DeRay and he would end up, you know, joining the flaming tsunamis and then like
00:48:43
Speaker
Because he went to, I think it was Loyola. How do you say that? let's Try to say it again. Loyola? You say it, God damn it. You just gotta to say it again.
00:48:55
Speaker
ah yo like how like it belt ah L-O-Y-O-L-A? I can spell, but I can't pronounce shit, God damn it. He was like a music major, so we like it was...
00:49:09
Speaker
I was asking him the stuff like he's super nice. and I was like, how do you get your tone? And like, how do you get your slide to move? He's like, what do you mean? And I have like nine trombones. I have Frankenstein parts. Most of my slides don't work either from like sweat me smashing myself in the face with it or whatever. But just watching him like execute these parts in like the middle of like a sweaty venue and just like seeing them play like these, like especially John, like John watching him play drums is it's a joy like and I heard He said this in some ways, like he never plays the same part twice. Like he'll just get there. He's like, this is where like kind of how the song is supposed to feel. But he's not like a precision drummer. He just plays drums like he's really good. But he has a framework and he just kind of. Yeah. Fucking goes to town, man. Well, there's lots of parts of those songs that are off time, too. So that's like that's why it's on purpose. I mean, it's yeah. Yeah, like it was it was crazy, like, especially seeing him like in block parties like in the middle.
00:50:07
Speaker
And just like standing on the side of the stage, like, like stuff like that, like just seeing them like hometown heroes. It's kind of like when you see bands like, you know, like on the side of the stage at work tour, like, I don't know, like no effects his last show. They're like, Oh man, get to see the heroes. But like getting to see fatter than Albert and bands like that, just like tear it the fuck up. And it was like pretty fucking cool. Like.
00:50:31
Speaker
I, Jonesy's like more of a lyric person. Like I, I like the music more aspects of stuff like that. And I like how it's just like Mr. Bungalask and it's just so everywhere. But like you were saying, it just goes together. I don't, I don't know. Like I can't really describe them other than like, you just have to listen to it. And maybe some people are like, listen to it. Like it's not going to blow their mind, but it's.
00:50:56
Speaker
it just fits together so well and how it worked on me. I'll say all these bands that we're going to listen to today, like seeing them live really just cemented. Yeah. Every feeling you had about them, you know, because all of them play with such emotion. That's I think like the takeaway, like if anything, if I don't stop rambling or if I can stop rambling about dumb shit is like each of these bands, like seeing them live, like the recordings I think they do them justice because there's some bands. I don't know if you have any bands that you've seen where you're like they're an amazing live band, but you listen to their album. You're like, that that's fine. like I feel like this translates as someone who's never heard any of these bands and listen to it. I feel like I was like, oh, all of these bands definitely would be like insane live. i really get Like I'm not saying I like know what it's like and I'm sure I'd respect and like them more, but you can tell. I feel like even a dumb, dumb first time. Listen, I can tell that they rip live. we We talk about the Planet Smashers a lot because like obviously Canada, but like in terms of a live performance, it's next level. like They're fine on record and they have a couple of good songs they're probably worth listening to. and They're a party band. But the party, like ah watching them live is like ridiculous even now. like Every time we play with them in Knoxville and it was those guys are just, yeah, it was a huge fucking party. It was them in the high days, so it was like, yeah.
00:52:16
Speaker
Yeah. So there's a one, a band that I definitely would, would argue fits in that ballpark in terms of like, yeah, they're, they're good on record, but see them live. And we talked to everybody that went to Fest this year. They got brought up as a band that ever, they were almost a destination band for people because they just don't play down that far south that much. And people were so, so so excited. Yeah. I never honestly listened to the Plant Smashers, but, uh, I have a hard time describing Fatter Than Albert rather than just being one of those bands like You just have to see them, you know, which sucks because they did a reunion show last year. So I don't know how many more they're going to be or whatever, but I felt really, it felt, it was special getting to see them. I don't know how many times we play with them. It's it's, it was a lot, you know, like it was like 30, 40 times or something, or it maybe less, but like, it was just a joy seeing them every time. So.
00:53:08
Speaker
And I have one more song from this record queued up before we move on to the next one, ah Panda King, a little part in the middle because it's got, it goes in like four different directions.
00:53:22
Speaker
Yeah, this was a good one. D-Ray on the organ. This was the one where when I was smoking the weed, I was like, aha.
00:53:37
Speaker
Yeah, it's Charlie s singing right there, man. They're sax player. Yeah, I love that. Did you start smoking weed after you got the Sublime Tattoo or was the tattoo? Yeah, actually, like a couple of years after for sure. Tell me that shit is not New Orleans as fuck right there. Yeah. The Lake Electric piano or all that little little Detroit. Love it. Clavinet, maybe. Whatever that sound is, it's cool. Yeah, make it sound like you're in fucking P-Funk.
Challenges for Ska Bands
00:54:09
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Yeah.
00:54:21
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Like three different bands. Yeah, that's rad.
00:54:34
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And the punk parts are like so punk. Yeah. Hunter is just a phenomenal guitar player, man. He could just yeah switch it up. The calmest dude in the world, too. Yeah, I remember he's the calmest dude in the world. Yeah. Didn't he have like a, I wish Lee was here, but he would have like a hollow body guitar and he's just kind of standing on stage, just laying these like thrash parts, just kind of just like nothing's happening. And Greg's bouncing around and like,
00:55:02
Speaker
Volpe and John, everybody's bouncing off. And I think Charlie and, Charlie and Hunter were always kind of like, kind of just hanging out. And sometimes Charlie wouldn't have a fucking neck strap for his saxophone. So he would just kind of like hold it out because he played Alto. So it was just kind of funny how like chill they were and then how everything else is going on on stage, you know.
00:55:26
Speaker
Just ripping. Yeah, because that's like nuts musicianship. Yeah. It's like academic music mixed with like ho like just straight crusty punk. I think that New Orleans vibe that was like, you can party and dance and play music all at the same time. It's all a part of the same movement. Yeah.
00:55:45
Speaker
I think that's the thing with with all the bands we're going to talk about. they're definitely i don't this This is so reductive to say, but they're a product of their environment, but you can really feel like like they embody the towns and the cities and the markets that they're coming from, even though they're all you know coalescing in the community records.
00:56:02
Speaker
um So yeah, let's move on to the next one. So the other release, around the same time, was an EP by Upstate New York, Scott Corr's Public Access, who had come off a string of independently produced albums that were vibrant supporters of the New Orleans ah scene and everything that was happening around community, ah produced at Easter Island Studios and acted as the other side of the Scott Corr coin from Fatter Than Albert.
00:56:25
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featuring fast, punchy, in-your-face attacks of horns guitar, screaming vocals. ah Much like the debut comp, it is an unnumbered release, but let's listen to this one, nature. Fun. Fuck, I love this record too. This is my favorite.
00:56:49
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Low end horns. Yeah, I'm such a sucker for Barry Sacks, man. Yeah, Barry, I think Barry and Tinner.
00:57:02
Speaker
Just love that East Coast beat down hardcore. Yeah. Yeah. Chris has such a good like hardcore sensibility, too. Kill motherfucker, dude. Loves to smoke weed and just proc philosophy and just... But when he plays, man, he's a fucking monster. That's great. That's a wrap.
00:57:35
Speaker
Shit all ripped. I'm very very enjoyable. Listen this week This is like like because I've always loved the metal Sensibility and fucking some of the Scott like it just like really just itches a spot for me I think having a horn in your band is kind of disarming where it like some people are automatically just gonna write you off but especially public access like Chris and Matt's vocals like how gravelly Chris sounds and how Like we said, like how chill of a person he is, but seeing him with his Barry sacks, this huge saxophone, he's like honking away on it. And then him just screeching into the microphone. It was like, just the mix of that was kind of cool. You could, you could like give them this, like your metal friend, this EP. And they might be like, I don't like this because of the horns, but this is some pretty cool stuff. Or you could give it to like a Scott kid and be like, Hey, you don't have to listen to real big fish. You don't have to pick it up. Like this is.
00:58:33
Speaker
something new, like it is. And they were saying some really important shit at the time, too. It was all like anti war and. Yeah, I don't know, man, like they're speaking about some really good topics, I would say. And then the member of the time that they played in our living room and the cops showed up and we did a show and let them play. and Nashville, they ended up staying for like a week just hanging out with us. The cops showed up and Chris was just like, Oh, that's cool, man. Well, we'll turn it down, I guess. And then the cops left and they just turned it right back up and kept on playing. We never got to play that house. We never got to play our own house. Our own house. Because the cops kept up. And I kept inviting bands on Myspace who were like, Hey, man, we're trying to hook up a show. And I i didn't know how to say no at the time. like That band fake knife. Fuck you guys. Anyway.
00:59:22
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yeah But I got to play their cover, Raining Blood on that at that at that house show. And like every every time we'd play with them, like once they started playing it live, I would hop up and like attempt to play it because Chris is like, oh, you know, you know, like D Mixolydian or whatever. That's not the key to it. And I'm like, yeah, totally. I'm like, oh, shit, because they're they're all like great players. I think that's like one of the three lines for all these bands, like the comic bands and everybody like just super fucking talented. Like it's, like I said, just like watching them. Like I think I love everybody. I love Faber than Albert. I love billionaire knees. I know I said it wouldn't rank them by public access is probably my favorite band that we played with just because I like the music the best and
01:00:10
Speaker
just the guys. I like everybody but like I think to me like that was that was like my personal go-to and then right right close behind is Fattier than Albern. So like this one's my my favorite by just a hair, you know. Yeah, going up to New York and saying what those guys was just like camping out for a week. It was just wonderful. Yeah. Yeah. Hanging out in the woods and got to stay and sleepy hollow. Yeah. ah spin It It's very scary. That's fun. Yeah.
01:00:38
Speaker
um own blood mu bone No, I only had the one song. Okay, sorry. Can you just play the intro to it? It's so brutal with the berry sax. That EP is like technically the first ah I could be wrong, but it's technically the first community record. It's the first community records. It is number one, and so is Fatter Than Albert. They both have CR001. Well, because Greg obviously wanted Fatter Than Albert to be the first release, so they're like the comp. But Fatter Than, or Public Access had, because it came out on Valentine's Day, and that's the anniversary for Community Records. Oh, cool. I'm still pissed is because we were going to do a split with Public Access.
01:01:24
Speaker
And our side was going to be called Side Thrash and their side was going to be called Side Rage. It was going to be a seven inch, but they ended up just breaking up. And so we wrote a song that ended up on our second album called Wake Up and Thrash that was going to be for the seven inch. And I was so fucking pissed because I really wanted to have like a split with public access. So like I was really bummed.
01:01:49
Speaker
And your bands would sound real good together. yeah but We wrote a song about skateboarding and only two of us skateboard. so yeah Two of us? You mean like a quarter of us? like like the quarter isle lee Lee knows how to skate. A quarter of a person. None of us really know how to skateboard. really All right, let's move along. 2008 was the start of another tradition. Only a month after the label began, the duo were organizing a huge concert outside of the Three Rings Circus Arts Education Center, known locally as the Big Top. They cordoned off the street, directed the stage, brought their favorite bands, and made it into a block party, and it was called... A block party. A block party, yeah. This is a game management. Brilliant, now you know what it is.
01:02:38
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uh certainly for as long as the big top was open and then it was moved to a more traditional venue but 2009 was no slouch for the label either with flaming tsunamis zombies versus robots stuck luckies possum soul and a billion ernies dumpster generation we already talked about tft and stuck lucky is here so let's talk about a billion ernies remember that here and now song from tony hawkes pro skater well if you take that and times it by a billion you get this band
01:03:10
Speaker
dude best joke i've ever read
01:03:17
Speaker
um i'm sorry i am bill I don't even want to say anything anymore. but yeah Once again, podcast over. That fucking they used to start their set out with that song that dumpster generation just screaming that out. Like those guys played with so much fucking emotion. I mean, it's three brothers at the time. ah Playing together and.
01:03:45
Speaker
Ryan Lavelle, that dude is just so fucking good at just like bearing his soul to the bone every time that he plays. um I remember talking to him about like after a billion earnings, he did his own solo project and it just it tore him apart. That guy is such like a legit soulful like um human being that I don't know, every time he plays, he just puts everything out there.
01:04:09
Speaker
Same thing with Brian, too, man. He's just full of energy. And Andrew's just a dork, and I love him. And they were a California band, right? Yeah. Hemet. Hemet. Yeah. Say that again. How's it, how's it, how do you say that? How's it pronounced? Hemet. Hemet. Hemet. No, it was like, it was the first time that I think that, like, now when we started playing shows with him, it was like trying to get, like, I was like, you guys were from California? four They're kind of like from, like, the hippie,
01:04:38
Speaker
kind of like dope smoking area of like Southern California. And they were, I don't know, they were kind of a culture shock when we first met up and ended up becoming like best buddies with them.
01:04:50
Speaker
Yeah, we would they go are very RX banded. See, that was like the thing that I picked up. Oh, hundred they worship those guys. Oh yeah. You think they'd appreciate my sublime tramp stamp? Yeah. Everyone but give a shit for everyone appreciates it. Everyone appreciates it. Should we play a song though? Sure. Play a song. I have used up. Let's play that.
01:05:25
Speaker
I was not expecting such a low tuning. This album had low tuning on it and I was like oh that's real low. Those tunings. It's news to me.
01:05:41
Speaker
I always loved that, like, Ryan would go into these screams that were something from the refused. Yeah, that's what I noticed was, like, oh, this is definitely, like, refused influence. but He's just blowing his voice out as much as possible. But he's, like, sweating and crying at the same time. I fucking loved it, man.
01:06:05
Speaker
Fun's fun. Yeah. I know Will's not here right now, but Kenny Plante, too, was playing with him at the time. We played with Grey Matter and a bunch of Michigan bands that we were friends with at the time. like We met a whole bunch of people through them. It was just wonderful.
01:06:40
Speaker
thoughtful dudes, man. Like, uh, Ryan and Brian specifically are the ones that we spent most of the time with. We would go see them in Denver every once in a while. They started a brewery together after they started the band and just treated us like family on the road really took care of us. And, you know, it's cool. It's like people like that. You can always just pick up any time you left off no matter how long it's been. So whenever we possibly toured with those guys all the fucking time, say whenever we went on tour, like it was usually like Greg.
01:07:10
Speaker
would book like Greg and Father Knob would book the community records tour, but they could only go on it for like a week and a half because like I think school um stuff and like maybe work stuff. So they only had like 10 days, but we would usually swap band members in the van. So like Ryan or Brian would be hanging out in the van or like Charlie from Father Knobbert. Like we'd always kind of do like a,
01:07:37
Speaker
exchange student thing. And I think yeah, Ryan and Brian would just always kind of be hanging out with us. And just, I think like the first couple, I don't really really remember the first time we met him. Do you at all, Jonesy? No, i I thought it was a show in Illinois, but I think it was like, randomly, we were just like, Oh, we're playing with a billionaire. It's like, I've heard of this name. But like, I would say they're more super friendly, but like more reserved. but Like the more we kept going on tour with them, like the more not because they used to be like more of a Christian Scott band like because they had a ah i their first album on Snapdragon records and they were more like I don't know like more folly slash like me without you kind of influence with horns but right you kind of see them like is kind of fun listening to like them talk with Lee and Andy and Jonesy about religion because we're not like
01:08:31
Speaker
or just like whatever, but like they were like kind of like falling away a little bit or like kind of like expanding, I would say expand the horizon. Listen to the lyrics of this fucking record, like going through it. I'm like, I can see the cracks forming where they're starting to question themselves. Like they have some pretty like what they would consider probably at the time, like revolutionary ideas to themselves. But I'm like, you're starting to question your own faith. And I remember sitting in the back of the van with like all three of the brothers and Lee and I were smoking a joint together and
01:09:02
Speaker
he's talking about God and all this stuff. And I just looked at him and I was like, do you ever think that maybe God doesn't exist? And just like the look on his face, he was just like, no, man, let me tell you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There was a moment, there was a moment. No, and I mean, yeah. And like, ah you know, I have my own faith and all that good stuff, but it's like, I don't know. I think all those like arguments that we had together made us like more of a family, I would say.
01:09:31
Speaker
I would say like, I know this isn't the exact same moment, but I vaguely remember that conversation ish, like I was in the front of the van, but if it's, was it outside that house show in Illinois that we played? yeah Is that the one, like you guys were having like a deep thoughtful conversation and then Charlie was outside getting attacked by ants and him going. Yeah, it was the Oh God Ants day. Oh God Ants and he's screaming and he's wearing like his jacket and stuff and ants are just crawling up his legs and through his slippers. in ah You scream outside of the van. Yeah, yeah it was. Oh, God. answer it' like ah Yeah. ah After a while, like Charlie would ah ride in our van to decompress because like they were like. All in different areas, like in the bands, like they were all like not butting heads, but sometimes they're just like, I just got to get away and they would all just come to our van and, you know, just chill out, have these weird conversations. And like, that's that's how we kind of like learned
01:10:28
Speaker
Yeah, our band was always like home base for people who wanted to escape their own bands. So and so kind like we were touring like six months out of the year at the time. So it was just like we had our little home set up. We had like a rice cooker and yeah not in the van. We had not in the van, but we had a shitty tri like a fucking pipe bomb or something. But yeah yeah, I would say I don't want to I would say like ah the the EP that they did the split with informants like we were talking about the cracks forming. There's a song called Gone on there.
01:10:57
Speaker
where it has Ryan, he's like, basically it's just him, solo vocals at the very end of the song. And yet like, you can kind of hear, and um I don't want to like speak for them or anything, obviously, but it's just kind of interesting, like seeing them in that period of time, like putting their heart out there there and like just sweating and like just great musicianship. I think I've said this about every band that we've talked about so far, but it it was just,
01:11:22
Speaker
just seeing like the him kind of like process all this stuff through the songs. And like you could just hear it in his voice. So like I would say they're the most like emotional band that we played with, where I don't really go for singer-songwriter stuff, but the fact that like they paired it with that musicianship, the horns, the harmonies, everything, like the intensity and like how they could ebb and flow with everything.
Comparing Ska Bands
01:11:44
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like I think Father and Albert was more chaotic public access was like more hard edged. And then Billion Earnies, I think like blended all that really well together. And yeah, they they're definitely like RX bandits, but like they were like, so cohesive on their own. Like I, our expandants are fine. I just never like grew into them. But like, that's what a Billion Earnies was to me, like what people see in like RX bandits and stuff like that. And I don't know if like they would appreciate being compared that way. But I know they liked RX bandits, but
01:12:17
Speaker
To me, that's like just being able to witness that and stuff. like That was what I
Community Records' Broader Impact
01:12:22
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enjoyed about that. So let's ah close up the talk on community so that we can talk about that one extra record. ah this ah but this one We've only covered two years of the label, 2008-2009. These bands would fold after about a decade of peace in existence, but members would go on to numerous projects that we've been talking about. Community would continue to elevate bands and not just in the Scott Punk circle. So Football Etc, Pope, Donovan Wolfington, Nova One, many others.
01:12:48
Speaker
Yeah, Greg and DeRay would form a new band, and in 2020, almost single-handedly take Scott of the Dark
New Tone and Bad Operation
01:12:55
Speaker
Ages. ah Bad Operation was the one that coined New Tone. If it wasn't for that, I don't know where we'd be. ah scott Scott went online, and a whole new generation's with us. Community Records still has its three tenants, people, good music, and connecting one and two. ah So a lot to, I mean, there's a lot of history with Community, and I think it's ah it didn't get its,
01:13:17
Speaker
day outside of the east coast until you know five years ago maybe like it's it's something that it was it was talked about in circles but now it has it's uh it's a like it's ah it's legions of fans that are starting to come out again so uh it's great that we're able to talk about all this stuff but before we sign off uh there was one extra band that you wanted to talk about Lost Cab is how you shortened
Lost Cabriolis and Their Music
01:13:42
Speaker
it. I like it. Lost Cabriolis, or however you say it, the one song I have queued up from here. Say that one more time. I'm not going to. Lost Cabriolis. I'll ask Cabriolis. So let's play Tell the Truth, and then we'll talk about it. Tell the truth, tell the truth, tell the truth.
01:14:05
Speaker
We're playing like four different kinds of ska. Yeah, this is so I was like, this is a switch up. But the bridge of this is monkey man, which I fucking love. Well, the baseline is is monkey. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Way to go. Yeah.
01:14:31
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Or mine's sweet.
01:14:34
Speaker
One horn player. One horn player? Really? I love a one horn player band. And I'm not just saying... Yeah, me too.
01:14:46
Speaker
No one wants to play with me. I'm just saying, like, Cap-Down had one horn. Yeah. Sonic Boom 6 had one horn. Yep. Also, Sax. We saw Best of the Worst when they had one horn. Yep.
01:15:02
Speaker
They've got two Orms. When we saw them. Yeah, when we saw them. It was just Liz.
01:15:20
Speaker
Anyway, that song was awesome. this This record was really fun. I really enjoyed it. Did you listen to all of hindsight? that I listen to all of like the record hindsight. Yes. Yeah. Two different records named hindsight. Yeah. to all of hindsight yeah and Listen to the 11 minute one and I listened to the 45 minute one. Yeah. Hopefully we can help like get this album out at some point, but um These are old friends of ours. We stood back in the southern sky days. It's just but early, what, 2004, 2005. We used to tour with these guys all the time. They're from Boone, North Carolina, two incredible songwriters at the lead of the band. um Definitely somewhere in the middle of Elvis Costello and the specials. We see these shows in North Carolina with them that were just totally fucking unhinged.
01:16:15
Speaker
um the whole town would basically show up to come and hang out and dance our asses off. And then we'd go through these huge parties all night. And yeah, I mean, like, uh, it's a band I wish that like stuck around and did some great shit, man. This album is wonderful and I wish we could get it out there somehow. ah I think like when, when I joined the bands, like, uh, like Lee and Jonesy and everybody like introduced me to more bands, but like, this is the one band that I've carried with me and,
01:16:44
Speaker
You can't, they don't have any, they just have CDs. ah they They formed a band called The Stress, which had an EP on community. It was only download only, but it was Mike and Johnny, the bass player. Mike is the keyboard singer. But this is like the one band um that I think like, thank you for letting us like talk about all these bands and
Transition to The Stress
01:17:06
Speaker
stuff. But like, I think this is one of the bands where like it's real, like real dark ages or whatever, but this is like,
01:17:14
Speaker
the band that I hold and the most reverence for anything like I've gotten seen the slackers several times and like bands but like if I could if I could just see this band one more time like that's what I would love because it was in this record like the hearing it. It's kind of all over the place like hearing it because like the very first song is called She Found Jesus and it doesn't sound like anything like the album. It's very low tempo. I was I was I listened to that first song and I was like, Oh, I'm settling in for something very weird. And then the second song came in and I was like, Oh, no, I see what they're doing. Like kind of like it's just like the songwriting is like top tier like I it was
01:17:56
Speaker
Like joining this band and being like, ah, we're scrappy. It'll be fun. But like getting to play with people like this and like they're the same age and they're just like so humble. And the fact that they didn't get like more notoriety, cause they went on tour with the slackers. And one of the reasons they got to is because they got to like Vic got to borrow Mike's organ. Like that was one of the stipulations. There's like, we, he wanted a certain kind of organ. Like, and that's what Mike had and.
01:18:24
Speaker
It seems to be an in with that guy. and Just having an organ. Just having an organ. Have a cool organ. Yeah. Or a sublime tattoo. I don't know. I don't know his feelings on sublime. Hopefully. Sublime with Vic. Stop threatening me with a good time. I don't know, man. pretty good. ah But like, Jonesy like probably knows more about it and stuff. but like this album and this band is like one of those that I just don't want to be lost to time. And it's it's very hard to find stuff like I had to send you a Dropbox link. And yeah, ah they had ah the first thing I had I got a burn copy they called it the dollar demo it has us. Oh, yeah, like we have found the in my closet I have the record for the CD. What was on the dollar demo was it was ah it was a
01:19:15
Speaker
at the seams, tell the truth and. And leaving town, no, it was leaving town. Leaving town part two, but it had a cover of Samson from. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the guy who wrote fucking Penny Reel, I should know this because I play, I was in his band. The really old Jamaican. I played with him. I played with Monty Morris. That's, it was Monty Morris. I know. I believe you. I'm more like trying to convince myself, but like. I know, I know.
01:19:45
Speaker
But ah yeah, I don't know. like It's just one of these bands. like I know it's, hopefully it doesn't seem tagged on or anything, but like I think altogether, like this is probably our favorite band. This is my this is my favorite Scott band. like If I had seen him when, if it was on streaming, like I would love to get it like the album on vinyl. They had a song at the seams. We covered it on our last record, um because we're like, fuck it, we got to do a lost cab song.
01:20:13
Speaker
It was on a, uh, Asian man comp called like sounds of the underground. And this was like 2005 or something like that. Um, but this is like, if I could, if I had a way to show it to people other than a Dropbox link, it'd be like, please listen to this. Like start harassing cool Chris. I guess if anyone wants like the link, I will send you the Dropbox link to this album. You can find stuff. I found a live show online too.
01:20:42
Speaker
It's a lot of different other songs. Like they're just a fucking great band. And like Jonesy, what do you got? You know, I know I don't want to like keep you guys. I have a ton of stories, but we don't have the time for him. So, um, but yeah. No, man. Uh, yeah. Our buddy Taylor passed away right before we put it our album in 2016 and it was kind of like an
Community Records' Free Download Days
01:21:02
Speaker
homage to him. And, um, he was one of the co songwriters in the band and they played guitars. saying Yeah. And it just fucking incredible writer. Um, so yeah, hit will up, bothered the shit out of him and get that, get that record from him. Yeah. People used to bother me about community records because they would do free download days where they would like highlight bands and stuff.
01:21:27
Speaker
And people would like email me, thought I was like working for the label. Like, how do I get on free download days? How do I get on community? And honestly, I don't remember how the fuck we got on community. Like I, I just remember us having an album out at one point where I was like, Oh, wait I guess we have a record out on community. So it was just funny. Like people like emailing us, but please hit us up on Instagram, wherever the fuck we have a Yahoo, uh, stuck lucky at Yahoo dot.com. I will send you this Dropbox link to Will Carter at AOL dot.com. yeah No, that's not. in We'll put it in our Patreon feed, in our Discord. i still have a I'm still using the same email address I got when I was 11. So I still use an AOL email account.
01:22:14
Speaker
BabygirlWill69 at... game. and it's a pretty quick one but's do it i'm feel me all game um hind do gay let do it i'll do a game do it okay game is super fast and this was influenced by an episode that is i don't think gonna be Released before I don't know what the timing is on this.
Band Name Change Game
01:22:43
Speaker
So this so this game is ah It's called the name game 3.0 because I have three different games called the name game um So what I'll do is I'll give you the name of a band that had changed its names for legal reasons.
01:22:57
Speaker
And so I'm going to give you the previous name and you have to tell me what they changed their name to. If I will lose, but that is a fun idea. Are these like bands of all genres or I just? All genres. This is not exclusively Ska. Yeah, you'll see. And I'll start with a really easy one and then we'll get progressively harder. And when they want to answer, they say? They say Buzz or Ska or their name. Whatever they prefer.
01:23:23
Speaker
Just say something. We clear on the rules? jump go Okay. So again, I'm giving you the old name and you have to tell me their more famous name. yeah Okay. Blink.
01:23:37
Speaker
plus yeah ah ah I'll give it to Will first. Blink 182. You got it. I said scores sure thought was a turquoise. We'll give you guys a little bit of a leeway because there's a delay. yes yeah Jonesy or I have to win this to have the episode release. Is that what the catch is? That's right. Yeah, that's always what it is. Otherwise, we'll add it. You know, just just you all talking. It was a conversation between Flynn, Joey and Rob. It's called Celine's white noise episode. Yeah, just real big fish whenever you guys talk. it We were playing all of you. Yeah. sell outborn life The record company is going to give me lots of.
01:24:24
Speaker
All right, second one. Death from above. so lyn Yes. Death from above 1979. You got it. Yeah. So those are the easy ones. Okay. Now it's harder. Yeah. So just that was just names and numbers. yeah It happened twice. It's very funny. Yeah. All right. Dust brothers.
01:24:42
Speaker
No idea, the Dust Brothers? There's Dust Brothers so already, right? I mean. Yes, and they had to change their name because there was a Dust Brothers already. Yeah, like a tequila. Jones? like yeah Yeah. Chemical Brothers? Yes. Whoa. That's what I thought it was. That's what I thought it was. Yeah. There's already a Dust Brothers. I was like, anyway. Yeah.
01:25:03
Speaker
So the story, if you don't know that story, the Chemical Brothers called themselves the Dust Brothers literally because they liked the Dust Brothers. That's so crazy. And then they were like, oh, shit. I was like, oh, shit, we have to change. They're really dumb. Yeah, really dumb. All right. Next one. Shrinky Dinks. Oh, Jones. Yeah, go ahead. Sugar Ray. Right. Oh, somebody listened to a checker. You would have known that. Or I was there too, I guess.
01:25:33
Speaker
I knew that one. I should have known. i've been told I have no memory. I've been told this information before and I have no idea. Sex maggots. Oh, I don't know why I was said. so I have no idea. No, this one's a relatively famous one. ah so Sex magnets. Sex maggots. Maggots. Crew. Slim. Motley Crew. No, that is funny though. It is the Goo Goo Dolls. The Goo Goo Dolls. The Goo Goo Dolls. So they had two bad names. They picked one bad name and went to another one. ah Zero with an X. X-E-R-O. Zero is how it's pronounced. And these are famous bands for the record. I didn't pick some really obscure bands. Can you give us a hint? Give us a hint. Yeah, they were closer to the edge and they were about to break.
01:26:31
Speaker
I still in. Oh, Lincoln Park. Yes. Lincoln Park. Whoa. Really? Yeah. Zero with an X. I can't believe that new singer is a Scientologist. Yeah. Isn't that why? Yeah. I wrote it down just to see what it looks like. A staunch Scientologist. And it looks like the name of a character that looks like Zena's like. Pet dog. Yeah. Or something. Zero is the ex-scalingkin's pet dog. Hero with an X.
01:27:01
Speaker
Uh, Genesis. What do you mean? and they didn't change their name is it just the snow No, no, there's a band. Phil Collins. There was a band that called themselves Genesis, even when there was already a very famous Genesis and they had to change their name again.
01:27:20
Speaker
all smart fucking or Yeah. Joey. Yeah. Dream Theater. No, no but close. yeah this band ah This band was running with the devil. Who sings running with the devil? Jesus Van Halen. Van Halen. Van Halen's first name was Genesis. Really? A bunch of idiots. There already was a Genesis when they started. A bunch of idiots. they didn't have the internet. Here's another bunch of idiots that went on to be millionaires. Skid Row.
01:27:53
Speaker
They were not. This was, again, this is not. Not Sebastian Bach. Yeah, I know. Sebastian Bach hates Trump. Yeah. Oh yeah. Sebastian Bach is like, is, is like actually pretty woke. He's pretty sweet. Sebastian Bach's shockingly woke.
01:28:12
Speaker
He was on Trailer Park Boys. That's funny. He goes to Edmonton all the time. Yeah, he loves it here. Yeah. It's great you get to play the casino, make a lot of money. I bet. Thank you for the extra time and trying to decide, but I still don't have a clue. I have no clue. I don't know, Baby in the Water, you know, the singer shot himself. I mean, it was a very famous band. Nirvana.
01:28:34
Speaker
Yes. Oh, that baby in the water, the album cover. I just totally forgot that. I'm sure I do that at some point. Also, Courtney Love murdered him. Come on. OK, let's keep going here. OK, Gamma Ray. Every time you say it, I'm like, there's already a band going. They had to change their name because there was already a band called Gamma Ray. X-Ray Specs. No, no, no. X-Ray Specs would have been before Gamma Ray. I don't know. But you know what I mean.
01:29:04
Speaker
This is you is a desert rock band. bro Queens of the Stone Age? Queens of the Stone Age. Absolutely got a cease and desist letter from Kai Hanson of Gamma Ray to tell him to change his damn name. because Just cause you're not because they're popular in Germany doesn't mean they're not a band. All right. Mookie Blalock.
01:29:29
Speaker
Oh, Pearl Jam. It's Pearl Jam. Yeah, it's Pearl Jam. That's right. That's funny. 100% had to change their name because the real person said you can't call yourself my name. Isn't that why? Isn't that why their album's called Ten? Their album's called Ten because of that, right? Right. That's right.
01:29:48
Speaker
Really? Yeah. And then they, so they changed their name from a person's name to a disgusting term for jizzing. So. Oh yeah. I keep forgetting. Pearl Jam. I don't like it. but I got five more and they're all done and I'm very
Humorous Band Anecdotes
01:30:03
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excited. Okay. El Grupo de Rock and Roll.
01:30:07
Speaker
but um Electric six. Oh my god. That's a good answer. This band is a bunch of jokers from the early 90s. They had a song called I Have a Fang. I don't know. You know, there's two of them. I don't know. One of them makes movie soundtracks. Selene. Yes. Danny Elfman. The Oinko Boinko. The Oinko Boinko. The Oinko Man. They like sock puppets. They might be giants. Yes, they might be giants. El Grupo de Rock and Roll. That's a very funny band name. Yeah, they should have stuck with it. Yeah.
01:30:41
Speaker
um Naked Toddler. Why? Yeah, yeah this is speaking of Christian rock bands. Oh, Selene. Yeah. That's right. I saw that on a YouTube reel the other time. Real quick, had you can grow yeah have you all heard the ah Scott Stapp Marlins Will Soar song?
01:31:08
Speaker
No, no. Yes. Okay. Play for him later. He, the, mark the Florida Marlins paid him like $13,000 to rerecord one of his songs into a baseball anthem. And it's a great minute and a half. Why do you look like that? Don't look at me like that.
01:31:22
Speaker
so I will listen to this, I will do it. Does it actually rock? It's meme-worthy for sure. I'll probably like it. Yeah, it's a little bit like it. Okay, the way you guys are all being coy, that means I probably will like it. It seems trolly. It's him trying to figure out what baseball is by just naming baseball terms, and it has the absolute best baseball crack in it. Oh, that sounds actually so up my alley. It's so good. We will love it. And fish don't fly, so just gonna say that. Marlins do not soar.
01:31:54
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They just don't fly, but Marlins will soar. Shut the fuck up. It's fine. Sometimes they jump out of the water. Yeah. It's a salmon. It's a salmon. That is a salmon. Thank you. Who's thinking of salmon? The guy's behavior. Hands of piss.
01:32:13
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Are you just saying that or is that a bad... Jars of clay. oh yeah i did another christian band yeah just riffing off christian band we're a christian band and um you know they're the peacups you'll find them in the corner questioning their questioning their christianity are yes oh losing my religion uh this next one is cancon baby rainbow butt monkeys oh i know that that's joey yeah joey knows this one it's finger 11 that is finger 11 what's your what's the 11th finger joey you're peepee yeah that's right ew i hate that that stuff oh also that's a finger that's i don't know that's not very complimentary tony flow in the miraculously majestic masters of mayhem
01:33:04
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That was already taken. Yes. Nobody actually changed their name because they couldn't get gigs. Their labels said we can't book you because your name sucks. And then they changed it to the red hot chili peppers. Yeah. Who won Joey? Jonesy. Yeah. was a close it was it There was a tie at three for a bit, but then I got one and Jonesy got a couple. I was like, what if it was all of the checkered pass against Jonesy though? Just die. We would have tied. Damn. Okay, sad. damn I did pretty bad. There we go. That was the game.
Album Promotion and Fan Appreciation
01:33:44
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That was a fun one. That was actually went pretty well. Yeah, yeah.
01:33:47
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but Thank you both for coming on the podcast. It is now your time to plug. What have you got to plug? Jonesy and Will. Jonesy? Counting curses. Go check it out. Go order it.
01:34:00
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From SPI, please. Please, the Lord of God. Yeah, we all are a fan, by the way. Yeah, thank you. It is a beautiful record. Chris did a beautiful job with the pressings. It is gold and see-through and gorgeous. And the artwork he did, Lee's, worked so much justice. We're very happy with it, so please go check it out. Yeah, looks cool as hell. Thank you. Lee or I don't know how to use computers, so Chris wizarded that onto a vinyl cover and stuff, so thank you.
01:34:30
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Yeah, because it does look really good when it was starting to promote it. I was like, damn, that looks fucking cool. Yeah. ah Yeah. And go order a mutiny's new record from them, too, while you're there and powerups new record while you're there. If there's a mega mega infinity split with bad Mary's coming out, Hans Gruber and the IHards and their split with the sensations.
01:34:53
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and make Sure to check out the mega Wednesday promoting bad Mary and that's right bad he Because the family is opening the the opening after mega wednesday bugs comings Our first set ever live star first set but This is what I love about Scott Punk International is we're just like a collection of weirdos. And these are our people. And I'm glad to like finally reconnect. We've known Aaron from power up for fucking 20 years and like just to see them do wonderful, wonderful things is is so good, man. Like Aaron's an object. Yes. I'm like super early on. Yeah. Atlas and the Adam Smasher. Come on, man.
01:35:37
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Yeah. and Open hands. and Open hand records. Open hand. Yeah. And a whole bunch of stuff. You just need to interview him next. That's all I'm saying. We can't. We've had him. We've had him. Yeah. yeah listen and I Bring him on again. Of course. happily happily happily. Yeah. He usually brings most of his band with him. Oh, and if you didn't know it, Chris Ruckus from mutiny and dissidente played organ all over our new fucking record. So that's why it sounds so good. I didn't know that. I also love Chris. It's been Ruckus. It's been Ruckus. He brought the Ruckus. he bra as He usually does. He usually does.
01:36:15
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01:36:48
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Hi, this is Chris from Cat Bite. You're listening to the checkered past, a bountiful harvest of low-hanging fur.