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Best Of Checkered Past: The Ska'd Cast 2024 - Part 1
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The year is over and that means it's time to countdown the listener voted best episodes of CP/SC for 2024! In the first part Rob, Celine and Joey run through numbers 10 through 6 while sharing thoughts and behind the scenes stories on each entrant. Tune in next week for numbers 5 through 1!
Hosts: Celine, Rob and Joey
Engineer: Joey
Editor: Cutman
Skassociate Producer: Chris Reeves of Ska Punk International
Merch: www.checkeredpast.ca/merch
Patreon: www.patreon.com/checkeredpast
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Transcript
Introduction and Banter
00:00:00
Speaker
On this episode, it's the best of 2024 part one. We are playing clips of all your favorite moments from our fourth year in podcasting. All that and more on Checkered Past, the SCODcast.
00:00:33
Speaker
What up, Checkerheads? Welcome to Checkerpass, the SCODcast Best of 2024 special. No puns, because it's the best ofs. We don't do it. Or I don't do it. yeah i che I take two episodes off every year. You get 50 straight weeks of puns. I take two old two off.
00:00:54
Speaker
Don't come at me. Don't come at me, bro. I'm Robin. This is my sister and co-host, Lynn. Hi. Coming at me. What was that you said at the beginning? Was that one confusing? Yeah. Still confusing.
Engineer Joey Joins
00:01:06
Speaker
Still confusing. And along for the ride is our engineer and co-host with the most toast, Engineer Joey. That's me, hi. Hey, Joey. I'm just engineering here. What you doing there, Joey? We were pretty loud. Yeah, we were clipping. I was clipping, and I'm not a clipper. No, you're not a member of the NBA team. Clipper's fan? Yeah, Clipper's fan.
00:01:23
Speaker
Uh-huh.
00:01:27
Speaker
likes just just so dumb That the best joke of 2024.
Yearly Reflection and Episode Selection
00:01:32
Speaker
So it's it we it happened again. We did another full year of podcasting. It happened again. It happened again. Unfortunately. It keeps happening. A year after years. Almost 200 episodes at this point.
00:01:48
Speaker
That's crazy. Wow. Isn't that wild? That's insane. Yeah. There's a lot of pods. I was expecting us to get 200. Why? So what does that mean? That means there's like close to 350 hours of us just fucking screwing our bullshit all over the internet? There are more- Using up internet? There are more episodes of our podcast than Serial. Wow. I bet there's so many out of context things that could be canceled on if I ever become a celeb.
00:02:16
Speaker
So this this year, we're gonna do it like we've done it every year. We're gonna split this episode into two parts over two weeks, and we're gonna go counting down from number 10 to number one of the best episodes of the year. And the way we did it is we put out a survey to our audience, to our socials, to the checkerheads on the Patreon, and everyone voted in their top five. And the way it I kinda did it was, you know, if you picked to number one, it was worth five points, and number two was worth four.
00:02:44
Speaker
blah, blah, blah, all the way down. Whatever got the most points was number one and down to number 10. So I did have to make a couple of judgment calls and I'll get into them as we go. Cause there were some shenanigans. I will say I let one shenanigans through because, cause game respect game, but there are a couple of shenanigans. There's one, there's one shenanigans. There were two shenanigans that I was not here for.
00:03:13
Speaker
ah and i said no yeah three shi and give three simultaneous i want on record that i am here I don't know what the shenanigans are and I approve of them. We're big enough that we're we have three shenanigans. Yeah, though that's right. It's a high shenanigans gear for our best stuff. So in part one, we're going to count down from 10 to six.
Top 10 Countdown Begins
00:03:30
Speaker
And we'll play a clip from the episode anywhere from six to 10 minutes long clip and then we'll comment on it and chat about it. Maybe give you some behind the scenes lore. But before we get into that, ah what are your favorite moments of this year? Shut up. Oh, boy. um um I know that the Willy Wonka factory thing happened this year, that fake Willy or the Willy Wonka whatever experience was a sad oompa loompa lady. Was it just the general question? No, I meant podcasting, but okay. I like that though, when given the broad, even brat summer wasn't your favorite thing. It's a part of, I'm really happy that it happened. It was really funny.
00:04:17
Speaker
the Willy Wonka experience. And honestly, I thought Big Bounce, the big bounce we went to, all the bouncy castles was also AI advertisement. But then honestly, it was just as crazy in person. Yeah, that's true. yeah That met hype.
00:04:31
Speaker
yeah groce um ah The pod pod. So Joey said the D and&D stuff you like the D and d and&D stuff was great. Uh, SBI fest was great. SBI fest was like one of the most pretty much the best things I've done all year. A couple of years running out actually. ah bo boop boot What other pod stuff was really fun. Um, all we did we were kind of swung big.
00:04:54
Speaker
on some more kind of concept, the episodes. I think because we started with like Ska vision and like the slapstick episode, which were like. Not the most, it's not the traditional, just like talk about a band episode. I think we gave ourselves, and I think we went into this year. We had more fun this year. We said that on the last best of it. We're probably going to throw the rule book out and just go weird. And we did. Even the community records one did really well. And that was like, same, same, but different. Same, same, but different. And we got another one coming up that we're going to do.
Future Plans and Experiments
00:05:28
Speaker
Brackets are like getting more out there.
00:05:32
Speaker
a little bit. You know what I mean? I think two-tone one was more traditional, but then the real big fish one was wacky. That went off the rails. Crazy. That went off the rails. So I now need to top that next year. Like next September now needs to be even wacky. You got plans in the works. I only really have the next Madness March lined up. Oh, okay. Which will be fine, but it's going to be different. But yeah, next year, I think I want to do more weird stuff. I want to keep doing weird stuff.
00:06:02
Speaker
gonna get a little weird in 2025. I think we just don't care anything. Like, I care. Like, but I don't care about just doing, you know, like sticking to the rules nearly as much. No. as i probably did when i and And I don't think we, yeah like, we don't chase the algorithm.
00:06:21
Speaker
No, we just kind of kind of do whatever the fuck. pun rock consider you oh a man I'll get into it when we play the episode, but the episode that had the most downloads of this year, I would never have guessed. Like it wasn't an obvious one, like when Reese Roper was on and it is still like our biggest episode.
00:06:38
Speaker
get into it when we do the episode. But it is weird. I cannot predict when an episode goes off. I think that's the thing. So then that gave me also a thought that I'm like, well, then who cares? If I can't figure it out, then I might as well just do it. I feel that way about songs and videos we put out where I'm just like, oh, that one? It's so impossible. Or if you show people your music or what songs, I'm just like, I have no idea how to predict it.
00:07:05
Speaker
yeah I feel like like zero just doing what you like and then hoping that other people like what you do is the best way to go about it and you'll find your people hopefully. I would say it's probably like at some point i what I would love.
Social Media and Merchandise Challenges
00:07:20
Speaker
is to have somebody do my social media for me. What I would love. Yeah, that'd be great. If you want to get paid $10 a month to run our social media, Pam. I paid my social media person $750. Yeah, but yours makes money. Ours is a non-process. I would argue. And merch.
00:07:40
Speaker
We could send the merch. We could also do more merch. Sweet in the Pot, like a couple of merches and 10 bucks a month. Yeah, you heard it here. A couple of merches. Well, I know we put this out there, but I've been... 2024 was the year of Joey graphic designing on his phone. You didn't yet, as well. I did a shitload of graphic design on my phone. I have an app that uses layers. It was the year of Joey. Also, the podcast was a bit more of the year of Joey.
00:08:08
Speaker
Was it? It was. It was a little bit of the year of Engineer, a little bit of the year of Engineer Joey. Joey's on almost every episode. Yeah. I'm co-co-host now. Yeah. The co-hosts are the most toast. Yeah. All that extra toast got you. I feel like you stepped into your power as a co-host.
00:08:25
Speaker
so Yeah, thank you i agree not to lose my my train of thought on the graphic graph design graphic so i've been I've graphic designed our last few merch items Which I think look pretty cool. I feel like the team agrees, ah but i I don't know what anyone wants yeah yeah Yeah, we put stuff out and it doesn't really, I'll be honest, our merch doesn't sell all that much. ah The only time it does sell is we sold out of the Yum Yum More Scott at SPI Fest. Yeah, that was great. That was the only time we had of a merch run that completely sold out. Yeah. um But in the next year, maybe we'll do the same thing. But I mean, we want people to buy merch. Maybe we don't pimp it enough. Yeah, maybe. That's also part of it. Yeah, maybe we got to. I've never posted any more. We got to do a mid-roll.
00:09:12
Speaker
We gotta to get a mid. Actually, yeah. so Why haven't we done that? Why didn't we do an ad for our own shit? We could use help with social media. We stopped doing ads. we stopped use it We stopped putting ads into the show. And we were like, well, we'll still do a break. Why don't we just record bother putting our own ads?
00:09:30
Speaker
and so added yeah yeah yeah Okay, this is real like well inside baseball. I'm glad you're all here for the ride that you're getting to this is the best of this is the best of You know what I'm looking at the time let's get
Music Discussions and Concert Experiences
00:09:42
Speaker
into an episode. Yeah, how about that sure all right? Let's start with the first a Clip that we're gonna play and I'm not gonna give up much of a teaser for it, but this is episode your episode number
00:09:56
Speaker
um So in 2000, they would circle back. Paul Q. Coldary would be back in the producer chair. They're now with Island instead of Mercury, so they got another major label, probably a slightly bigger major label. um But 2000 would be Death of Ska territory, so if you're guessing that this record had not that much Ska on it,
00:10:17
Speaker
you would be correct and this is and it's long as fuck holy shit it has like 16 songs on it something like that too damn long i'll say boss tones pass the sniff test with rob in terms of not having too long records it's usually 12 13 tracks this is too fucking long yeah stupid long and i bet all the songs are like three or three and a half minutes or longer too right About three, yeah, they're pushing three. yeah And some songs are good. This record I re-listened to and then some songs I was like, actually there's some pretty good tracks on here, but it is too long. And some just are filler, honestly. But they did a weird ass song and it's called Ride on Broad Street and that was a song that I queued up. And Joey, you're not gonna be into this.
00:11:03
Speaker
It's not a Joey song. that No. No, it definitely isn't. I can be out already.
00:11:12
Speaker
Remember, they're from Boston. Yeah. Oh, there's the flute. Tin Whistle. Tin Whistle, whatever. A recorder. Dropkick Murphys were already out. Were the Murphys on this bad boy? Or was it a collab? No.
00:11:31
Speaker
No, this would have been before the Murphys did this kind of thing, though. This would have been when they were still a street punk band. Oh, okay. Yeah. People forget about that. The Dropkick Murphys didn't add the bagpipes and stuff until, like, after the third or fourth record. For that, they were just oi. Oi, oi, oi.
00:11:51
Speaker
um yeah this is not for me I like it it's still pretty fun I will say okay so speaking of drop this is off topic we're talking about Boston but different Boston band Dropkick Murphy's Um, if you've ever been to a dropkick Murphy show, like you always expect that it's like packed with like your rig pig guys, like baseball, cappy dudes, trucker hats, right? beards Because that's the kind of stuff they're like, Oh yeah, I remember this song from the departed, right? Those guys. yeah And then you would, you'd go to the shows and you'd see that. Like I've seen the dropkick Murphy's like 12 times, like it's stupid and and never on purpose. Like they were just always kind of there when I meant to see a different band. Yeah.
00:12:31
Speaker
ah And, uh, I would see those guys, right? I was like, Oh yeah. Cause they're super popular. And like, it's kind of like, it's like penny wise. It's just like a popular enough band. broie And then you would see, and then you would see skinheads and you'd be like, what are the skinheads doing here? Like, what are they doing? Like they can't, they can't connect with these guys. Somebody's going to get beat up. like And I remember asking Ariana about that. I'm like, why does skinheads always that drop kick Murphy's in there? She's like, they're just waiting for them to play bar room hero.
00:13:02
Speaker
One song. I was like, that just killed me. I was like, okay, yeah, just one song. Skinheads are showing up just near Barroom Hero. I mean, to be fair, the Skinheads are probably there to see some other band too.
00:13:19
Speaker
favorable but
00:13:22
Speaker
Cause the Dropkick Murphy's would bring like the business or something. Like it would always be like drop. They would bring some like serious fucking heavy hitters. And they were also, I think cause they're from Boston. So they probably had just a connect for like a Canada tour, but for like a long time, there's a venue in Edmonton called reds. And that I feel like there was years where the goddamn Dropkick Murphy's were at reds every four months.
00:13:49
Speaker
Like like three times a year or something. And they bring in big fucking bills with like four gigantic bands supporting them. Yeah. It was crazy, but yeah. And I just would be there because I'm like, oh yeah. Because he wants to see one of them. Good riddance is opening up. I want to see 1208. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, right? Yeah. Some band like that and you're just like 1208, yeah.
00:14:09
Speaker
play Pick the poison and think i saw that but one of them Maybe it wasn't a dropkick show, but it was one of those one of those shows yeah like that and I was like this bad rules So so for to the dropkick Murphy's credit They're on the good side of history with that as because they're always bringing along. Hell yeah like other they like as much as you can not dig what they do because maybe that's played out a little bit, but they're They're legit in terms of bringing their scene with them. Yeah, they are definitely, uh, uh, the whole, uh, rising tide. Raze all ships banned for 100%. Yeah. And it's Boston bands. Like they're just like, yeah, we're, that's their thing. We're Boston. So we bring a shitload of Boston bands with us. Turns out Boston's got good bands, huh?
00:14:57
Speaker
now i could yeah Yeah, it's kind of the whole thing of this in the show. ah So 2002, they were no longer ah allowed to be on a major label because they didn't want ska bands anymore. So they went to yet, you'll you'll never guess, they went to side one dummy, okay yep where Joe Gittleman was house producer. I mean, that might've been an easy get. yep yep I don't think there's a whole lot of negotiating that happened there.
00:15:22
Speaker
But let's add another great ska record to the side one dummy roster, because this record is really good, and it's really fun. Nate Albert's gone, which is too bad. I would say that the replacement guitar player, whose name is Lawrence Katz, I had to get the name, ah not quite as good, doesn't have as many songwriting credits, ah but they also got in Chris Rhodes on trombone ah from Springhill Jack. Oh, cool. And he's an incredible trombone and player. like Dennis Brockenborough is a great trombone player, so they got a they got a real win for another person. um but So this is a good record. I really recommend listening to it. It's it's quite a bit of fun. um so let's but The song I cued up is Everybody's Better, yeah which is a weed smoking song. Cool.
00:16:15
Speaker
They know their roots, man. Yep. They know how to play a good fucking like slow ska reggae song.
00:16:25
Speaker
This mix is really good. I mean, this is probably Joe Gittelman producing this one. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It sounds like a side one record. Yeah. It's got that production quality. I said on a previous episode that every side one dummy record sounds great. Yeah. That's the one thing you're going to get out of it is a great sounding record. Totally. Yeah, the vocals sound like usually Dickie's like way up front of all the other vocals. This is like much more, sounds more like a chorus than a one guy yelling with some gangs in the back, you know? Yeah.
00:17:08
Speaker
But again, he was probably, like, touted as... Like, he was the front man, but I don't know, maybe they wanted him to be the rock star. And I wouldn't say Dickie has, like, rock star quality, you know what I mean? Like, yeah I don't think anybody in the Boston... Like, Ben Carr doesn't have rock star quality. Yeah. No, he's got rock star quality. Yeah. That's who should have been the front man. hundred He was. The frickin' teller of the band, yeah. he He was the front man. He was the Boston.
00:17:39
Speaker
We didn't even talk about that. I can't believe we went this far. like It's like got almost an hour into recording, and we didn't talk about Ben fucking Carr. So Ben Carr was in the band the entire time. For those who don't know, Ben Carr is quoted as the boss tone. He just dances on stage. And I shouldn't even say just dances. That may sound lame. If you've seen the boss tones live, it fucking rules. And honestly, if you've seen Kill Lincoln live, who also have a hype man, a person who like,
00:18:08
Speaker
you know, is on stage, you know, just jazzing the crowd up and dancing. It is cool to have that part of a show. It fucking rules. There's a reason why Flava Flav has a fucking career, man. Like, that shit is cool as hell. Yeah. Like, yeah and Ben Carr does not do a traditional skank. Like, he's got his own fucking moves going, man. Like, it's cool. He's inventing shit. He's all over the place. he's Yeah. He's as creative as the songwriters are, but with dancing.
00:18:38
Speaker
That's right. Ben fucking Carr. And he was in that... Yeah, we stand Ben Carr around here. I stand Ben Carr. Absolutely. For sure. and Like, that's what we really should take away. And you know what? You don't have to listen to the records to enjoy Ben Carr. You can put on a video on YouTube and play some other music and just watch Ben Carr dance. Put it on mute and just watch Ben Carr dance and pretend like he's dancing to fucking sleep token. I don't care.
00:19:06
Speaker
Pretends like he's dancing to Sleep Doga. That's a good joke. Yeah, that's a good joke. I stand by that one. Not a bad joke. That was in defense of the Mighty Mighty Boss
Most Downloaded Episode Revelation
00:19:16
Speaker
tones. That is, as Celine alluded, our most downloaded episode of the year crazy by some margin. Wow. Like probably double. Clickbait. Really? They get it for clout.
00:19:27
Speaker
click bait clo chase I was told yeah i was told i host told very very pointedly that I sounded like I was clout chasing. I just wanted to say it. like got I got needled by a certain podcaster about it. yeah Not wrong. i was trying to ve I was trying to be spicy. We're allowed to chase some clout. ah We're allowed to chase a little clout. We talked about all these other bands. They're an important band.
00:19:55
Speaker
They were an important band. We had to talk about them eventually. Yeah. And also that kind of opened it up for us to not talk about the Mighty Mighty Ballstones. Pretty much. and and and And I feel like ah the way the way you design the episode, it really made sense. health design It's not that it's not like a creative project and Rob doesn't try, but I like Rob's like ah title is podcast designer. yeah But the way you put that episode together, it kind of like worked really well and it allows us to talk about other bands in a similar way.
00:20:33
Speaker
that may have yeah similar issues. Yeah. It was handled with the right tone. yeah Yes. Yes. Which was what we were concerned about. And maybe it wouldn't have, if I was on it, it probably would have gotten way spicier. Totally different. Totally is. Probably because you wouldn't have enjoyed the music as much too. Right? like Then that's part of it. And that would be like less excused. I'm like, well, if this is an art, I don't have to separate the art from the artist. Right.
00:21:01
Speaker
whereas i'm a big boss stones fan so if you haven't listened to the episode go back it's a good one it's a trombone i think it's fine but it's just such a like it just sounds like an old guy singing Right, so the the premise of the premise of the episode was to say, the boss tones are good in despite of Dickie. They're politics. Not even there. Or his Dickie-spirits politics. Specifically Dickie. I was trying to defend literally every other member of the of the band and why they're important, why they're good still, why you can listen to them, justify why you wouldn't listen to them. I like what you did. Justify why you would put on a video of Ben Card dancing to put on some other music. Yeah.
00:21:39
Speaker
Um, so it was, I liked that episode. I mean, it was, it was made in part because people were specifically telling us that they didn't want to do the boss tones. Like we had full, we had guests actually declined because they were mentioned. And so we're like, okay, well, why don't we just put an episode together where we can kind of chat about it at the bit to get it done.
00:21:58
Speaker
Yeah, I really wanted to and I thought it was worth talking about. We've gone almost four years into the podcast without ever once doing an episode about it. so There's nothing wrong, Chompin.
Voting and Episode Quality Debate
00:22:07
Speaker
there's no good job i can try um' Listen, I'm running out of band, man. At some point, look but something we're just going to have like like modern bands coming to talk about their friends. Yeah, which almost happened. yeah But yeah, that was in defense of the boss tone. So here's the first bit of shenanigans. There were some people that were voting live episodes and were not being forthright about it. There was just some people, I'm going to suspect some people who had been on the live episodes or who are SPI people were just voting the live episodes and juicing their numbers up. Can't you know, in the comment section, what part of the episode they liked. And there was one part that got brought up more than a few times. Okay, fun. So I wanted to cut... I was being fair. blame them. Yeah. I was not being unfair. You were doing like a DM. That's like a DM call. I was doing a DM move. So I moved SPI day two, I think is what it was, down and Boston's up because I thought it was a little bit more consistent. They were very similar. They were one point off of each other. So it's not like totally crazy.
00:23:42
Speaker
That's so fucking crazy. Yeah, I know. I can't believe I did that. All right. Here is your number nine.
00:23:54
Speaker
Dub specifically. Dub specifically. Yeah. yeah what What are your thoughts on Pound for the Sound, aside from it being all all bangers, no skips? um Every song on this album is great. I mean,
00:24:10
Speaker
they sound the Both the albums do sound the same, production wise mixing wise. um We'll get on to that later. I'm sure I don't think it's a bad thing for your um bad similar I don't think that's a bad thing. You know, what I don't think when they're that close together. Yeah and we know but and when at this point there's there's still nobody why know like them yeah yeah Yeah, and they were just so early on this sound but like so the standout songs on this album for me a a faith no more strengthening numbers ah April a
00:24:42
Speaker
and a political stand for reason. Yeah, I love that song. Pound for the sound. Progression versus punk rock. I mean, they're all amazing songs again. Let's listen to pound for the sound. That's the other song. Pound for the sound. Or, pound for the sound. ground pound and this is where I would not know the lyrics this bit and just make noises with my mouth. I will say, the vocals are like this and this and this. Now you sound like Scissor. Yeah, I know. Well, they were just mad. There's another influence that I'm sure Kaptown is pulling from. Yeah. Which is all things before that as well. So literally,
00:25:26
Speaker
went out and bought all these owls. I wish I still had the CD's, I don't even know where they are. I think they might be it like my ex-girlfriend of like 12 years ago lost or something. because I hate her on behalf of your partner. She sounds awful. Hell yeah.
00:25:48
Speaker
Hey, Orange Goblin producer. Yeah, it's gotta be. the just that You can get it right there. This makes me want to do like a shitty YouTube video of like a goomba doing like ground pounds.
Nostalgia and Musical Evolution
00:26:01
Speaker
For the fair. This fan. The bass comes in.
00:26:07
Speaker
Oh, you. Oh, that's right. Chris hates when Rob does that. Chris hates. gets but then the baby but butter and and and and and and and and and that ah that that ah that ah not Not cut man. Cut man hates that part. I thought that was a good part. I know. I don't care. i both you go do It's just funny that this is an action, but we can't play the whole song. I know you can't play the whole song, but that's like the fight with the fight. I know, but I don't think you do, because this everyone does this to work, so it's just funny. Everyone's getting so mad at him for cutting it off at their favorite part. Like always. At least through this, I'm glad everyone's seeing that i I've listened to cut that much more than I had the slackers in my life. Yeah. That's all right. and mad with And mad. I'm generally mad at you that you cut that bit.
00:26:54
Speaker
kind eye like isn great came in hungry we know He gets this a lot right had his air base out and but yeah the if so and how do you feel about powerful this i Basically just a musically blue board
00:27:21
Speaker
ah That's what we're here for. That's going to be the super cut next year. It was good. I guess it again, it's like it's hard because.
00:27:33
Speaker
and well I won't necessarily like go back and like listen to this. I also feel that way. Actually, the Sonic Boom 6 most recent music is like actually totally music I would like listen to now. yeah But I don't go back and like listen to this sound like currently. yeah There's nothing wrong with it. I would have been super into it if I heard it as it was coming out. like Between the ages of 14 to 24, I would have been super into it. And it's not that I don't like it, but it's good. and It's just not like genuinely trying to restrain yourself not to upset me. No, I'm not. I buy i like like it quite a bit. No, I wouldn't. No, this isn't like talking about suburban. This is not suburban legends. This is not suburban legends to keep it back where I had had to hold back a little because it just would have been me. And but um yeah, no, it's like because there's so it is pretty punk rock, which is fun. It's edgy actually honestly, I was thinking when I was listening to it that I was like,
00:28:29
Speaker
I'm happy Craig suggested like not a Super Scott third wave band. yes but so would have i would probably a little bit out of you So I was actually relieved during my listening. like pleasant I was pleasantly surprised during my listening and the refused elements got me in.
00:28:44
Speaker
yeah it was this in sponge and yeah but i mean active like they're playing with like zebra head and um but cap down is not no don't no no apart from the occasional sporadic thing i was pleasantly surprised listening to him i liked it a lot more than i thought i would and there's definitely a couple like bangers in there but again it just would have been music that i would have been into when i was a little bit younger i don't i with cap down i genuinely do not know how you cannot listen to it and instantly get pumped up yeah if value Yeah, like I was 15 and 16 when but I heard these albums so like angsty teenage boy is angsty teenage boy music and I'm here for it still. 36 year old, it's like some days you just got to put on cap down, you know. It's like some days where you just have to listen to Slipknot.
00:29:33
Speaker
i will say i felt that way more so about sonic boom 6 when we were listening and i hate like sort of like where i was like more like oh like wow like variety yeah but and this was like good and yeah and like harder and like punk and like rad but like I'm not necessarily like blown away and it's not like changing my life. I would say that's all. SB6 goes more down the route of Scott and punk that you enjoy. Yeah, this band is more up your alley. Honestly, I feel like it's more dudely. and you've got yeah you know It's kind of like, and not in a negative way, but I think it's like for the boys. It's aggressive. It's aggressive. It's very, very aggressive.
00:30:14
Speaker
It's a little testosterone-y, that's all. They are a band that likes to throw it down in order for me to pick it up. And what happened about Sonic Boom, I feel like there was always this feminine element to it that I was like, oh, for me? I'm here. That's fair. Craig's music actually isn't that testosterone-y. I mean that as a compliment.
00:30:39
Speaker
It can be. I think it's going to be self-deprecating.
Guest Contributions and Listener Interaction
00:30:43
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Maybe that's what it is. Yeah, maybe that is what it is. Chatting with Craig. Chatting with Craig. we Was the In Memoriam last year's Supercut?
00:30:56
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Or was it the year before? There's been a running gag about how Craig cannot crack the top 10 with his episodes. And he would be on twice a year for the first few years. It feels nice for him to be here. And so his redemption arc, he made it. So Craig is common sense kid. He has been on the pod more than anybody else, maybe. Really? I think so. Yeah, he's been on at least five times. It took him a long time to get a real episode, though. Yeah.
00:31:22
Speaker
we use you troll him yeah tro him pretty hard yeah And then finally, you know you know he agreed to come on and do an actual episode instead of just brackets And then actually he was on twice this year because he was on ah the live episode as well. That's right. yeah that was That was a good one too. And we got to hug him. We got to hug him. Yeah. Great to see that guy in person. Yeah. um So the band he chose to do was Cap Down, which is a great listen. And obviously it's super funny. He tells a lot of great stories. He's just a delight. He's one of our top
00:31:55
Speaker
Top podcast guests that we will lean on if we ever need somebody on, he's just like, he gets it. A lot of conversation going off the rails. Yeah, lots of that. And always a nine, 10 o'clock in the morning, record for us. Yep. Yeah. We know Craig is going to be on, means we've got to record early, but that's good. but But it works out because typically he has a drink and then we end up having like mimosas or something. Yeah. kind of fun Try to keep up with it. Yeah.
00:32:21
Speaker
Um, but yeah, that was a, that was a really fun episode. I really liked that one. I'm glad it made it. Um, yeah, I will say there was shenanigans on this one, just a little, somebody, somebody wrote, I haven't listened to this episode, but I liked the part where he talked about beans. Um, he did not talk about beans on this episode. and So i well, no, and not, not in a significant way. Right. So, but if I take, if I take that out, it still was number nine. I will say that episode was like.
00:32:51
Speaker
earlier in the year. That was very early. um And I feel like he really leaned into the bean thing mid year. Like he was in early on time in world. but But now but mid year, he like moved into like Bean Galaxy. You know what I mean? The BCU. Yeah. So, yeah, we're let's take a break. Actually, this is a good player for a break. And and when we get back, we got three more episodes.
00:33:25
Speaker
Welcome back to Check Your Pass. The CPSC crew here is going through the best of of our episodes of 2024. And we did number 10 and number nine. So that means we're on to...
00:33:37
Speaker
Number eight. Oh, hold on. That's the part two. I'm already armed. That's the mic partner. stay and That's true. State your name for the SCA record. Adam the SCA mailman Wallace. When did you first hear about SCA?
00:33:56
Speaker
Oh, gosh, i was like I think I was like six years old when I got Tony Hawk's Pro Skater for Christmas. I know that's kind of a common answer, but it was one of those deals where it's like, oh, ah this meet like when I was in high school, it was like, you like this music. I'm like, what is this? They're like, this is Ska. And I was like, oh, I've listened to Ska my whole life. I had no idea. But it's like my favorite. What was like the first band that like really gripped you, aside from the Tony Hawk fans? Oh, it was Real Big Fish. Mainly because of that Weird Al song, that's your horoscope for today. Because i I was a huge Weird Al fan, and then someone told me that the horn players from Real Big Fish were in that. And then I was like, oh, what's this band? And then I heard Monkey Man.
00:34:32
Speaker
And I realized that Monkey Man was on the wild thorn berries. And so when like when I was a kid, I would run the house like singing that song.
Guest's Musical Journey and Preferences
00:34:40
Speaker
And my dad would like sing along. And so that was like my favorite song. So later in life, I was like, oh, shit, this is like Rubik Fish. and And then I saw them do a free show and boise at Boise State University for Spring Fling. And they opened for, or Everclear opened for them. And then I saw Rubik Fish and was instantly hooked. And I was like, OK, I'm going to dive head first into this ska thing.
00:34:59
Speaker
I get ever clear confused with Everlast and I get um Everlast confused with ah no i yeah i got everlast confused with ah Uncle Cracker, but I never get ever clear confused with Uncle Cracker.
00:35:13
Speaker
That's the transitive property. I don't i don't to adhere to it. Yeah, that's sound logic. um ah What's your bean intake like? Oh, my bean intake? It's increased a lot when I became an adult. When I was a kid, I was very picky. And now I do love beans. um I haven't had any while I'm here because watching Craig drink two cans of it kind of turned me off a little bit. But I'm no stranger to beans. I love beans.
00:35:39
Speaker
They're a magical fruit. Drake or Kendrick? Kendrick. Pac or Biggie? Oh shit. Well, fuck. Biggie. Good choice. Eminem or Triumph the Insult Comic Dog? Triumph the Insult Comic Dog!
00:35:55
Speaker
You fuck with pinball? Yeah, I love pinball. Hell yeah, what's your game? ah Rush, the new Rush one. Oh yeah? Yeah. The world record for Foo Fighters was broken in Edmonton. Really? Yeah. That's a good cabinet. Yeah. I love that one. i i there's The Rush one got me because I'm a huge Rush fan, and then I come to find out that you Canadians aren't a huge Rush fan here. Right. But that that machine is great because you can, like, well, same as the Foo Fighters one, you can pick what song, like, what you're playing with. I just have a blast playing that one. Give like a pinball like league or like a place in where you're from. There's one that's like five minutes from my house and I was actually just like before coming here I was going to the Facebook like Idaho pinball group to find try to find out when like the next tournament is but I haven't done it yet the only thing is and the place that's right by my house reeks it's like it's just a ton of like smokers and they don't really like outsiders and so I want to join in but I feel like I got to get jumped to join.
00:36:50
Speaker
Uh, we're also now joined by Kurt from Hans Gruber. Do you fuck a pinball? I want a hot dog. Okay. but Um, Mary fuck kill Scott punk or international. Hmm. I'll Mary Scott. Well, that sounds racist. If I say fucking international, good know if i say kill international. I don't know. Can I just fuck me and kill all of them and just be like a life cycle for all three? Are you a cherry picking daddy or a full album mommy? Ooh. I'll admit, I'm a cherry picking daddy. like I don't know. I love full albums, but I do often find myself just picking the few songs that I like the best and like going through my Spotify just liked songs. What's the last app you deleted because it was draining your life force? Oh, shit. i Before this fest, I deleted a ton of shit so that I had a bunch of gigabytes of storage, and I think I deleted
00:37:39
Speaker
Shit, I think I deleted X, because I just don't fuck with it that much. Oh, that's like my, wow whatever, I'm on it, I guess not really. um What's the worst piece of music advice you were ever given? Oh, I mean, when I first started playing music, I played bass guitar and I played it in like the middle school jazz band and some shithead like eighth grade bully kid was like, you should quit. ah You suck at bass. And I was like, ah and I thought about it. My parents were like, don't quit. So I guess just the worst advice was just quit.
00:38:07
Speaker
That's really shitty advice. What do you listen to when you're not skanking a skull or punking a punk? oh Oh, that's a good question. um God, I listen to a lot of pop punk, but that's punk. I really like...
00:38:21
Speaker
Well, sort of. that's seen Now that's a full debate. We could debate PopPunk in a hot dog line. um Gosh, I listen to a ton of shit. The one I've been listening to a lot is actually like Rhett from Good Mythical Morning. His country album is like one of the best albums I heard in the last couple of years. But overall, a lot of metal. ah But everything else just involves like punk Scott and Riggy.
00:38:43
Speaker
the ah The last country record I really liked, I'm forgetting the dude's name, but he's like an Appalachian like ah Yodeler, and the song is like called like Fences or something, but he's from like the Appalachia area, and he fucking hates Trump, and it's awesome. Yodels, he's this Yodeling guy who hates Trump, and it's one of the best things I've ever heard. um Let's see what else we got here. ah If you were a Dungeons and Dragons class, what would you be?
00:39:12
Speaker
Oh god. Whatever's the most punk. I've only played Dungeons and Dragons once and I ah was terrible at it and I just the guy who's helping me like make my character cheat I said just give him a mohawk and give me all the punk whatever would be punk. That's a good one. um Your last meal? App, entree, dessert and a drink. ah like Last like in my life. Yeah. Copyright Doughboys 2020.
00:39:33
Speaker
I do love a Doughboy. So, let's see, app? Mozzarella sticks? Like, legitimate because I love these. Jesus Christ. I love them legitimately though. Like, I was on board with that before that shitty meme. Scott Mailman's the only one who gets away with this shit, I swear to God.
00:39:49
Speaker
Yeah, for real. I mean I make them I make the mozzarella jokes all the time to where even jares like you get a pass um be fucking boise not Like get a pass like I mean he can be the whitest person ever easy from Boise everyone's like that's fine nice from boise He can't help it like it What's the other ones meal or like entree entree dessert drink Entre, I'm gonna go like carne asada burrito, but with ah like potatoes, like Mexican table cream, ah like the good shit. ah Dessert? Ah, I just gotta like straight up vanilla ice cream. Like, I know it sounds like really plain, i fuck but like legitimately, I remember my grandma took me to- He's from Boise, Idaho. yeah This boy is from Boise. My grandma took me to Ben and Jerry's when I was a kid. She's like, don't get vanilla. And I was like, that's my favorite though.
00:40:41
Speaker
what Was the other one a drink drink yeah fuck she's dead um um ah Drink Shit dog. um I'm gonna go like a Sailor Jerry and coke all right all right. That's like a pretty decent answer oh I apologize. I'm a 50 part of the checker cast, so I don't know if they know. I introduced myself once on it, so I'm part of the podcast. yeah That's very true. What's your Mount Rushmore of cake? Cake? Like the band cakes that you're talking about, or just cake in general? All right, let's go with German chocolate on one. Let's go birthday cake, cupcakes for one. was Let me go. well That's really the best song.
00:41:27
Speaker
ah yeah and then we'll finish off with actual cake let's do never there because i made i made a parody of never there when i was in high school that was never there you have no hair and i don't know because you're a big weird out fan it's exactly right minds i will survive go the distance nugget and short skirt long jacket uh what is your closing words but it must be a haiku shit what's the haiku what's the wrong five seven five five seven five okay uh Scott Punk international rules. This festival is the greatest. I can't wait to do it again. Is that a hike? I'll count later. All right. know Thanks mailman. Thank you.
Live Episodes and SPI Fest Reflection
00:42:04
Speaker
So yeah, so that was the SPI Fest episode that did make it in and that got a lot of votes. Okay. He's got mail back alleys and they all shouted out hot dog line. It got mentioned no less than four times. but And so if you actually listened to that episode, the back alleys, I cut it differently.
00:42:23
Speaker
where it's actually by the question. So I ask the question and then you hear the guest's answer. So this one though, because everyone said hot dog line, I was like, I'm just gonna put that whole thing in. I didn't cut it, didn't this is an unedited little thing for the best of to just listen to us ah gab with the Ska mailman in the in the hot dog line. My favorite was ah last meal, ah chicken in the van. yeah Oh wait, last meal you ever eat, chicken in the van.
00:42:52
Speaker
that was uh best of the worst that was a good one yeah yeah chicken in the van yeah um you can hear in the background of the ska mailman one like a variety of ska punk or spi people ska morphsuit that was there dev yeah ska morphsuit at the very beginning uh kurt from man's grouper and the diehards came in three times yep Can't get rid of him. You can hear everybody. Can't keep him away. You can just hear all kinds of people chattering away in the background. It was great. It was like a party. Everyone stopped their conversations to throw their two cents into that one. Yeah, it was a good time.
00:43:31
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, S.P.I. Fest this year was phenomenal. ah All three of those episodes are worth listening to. The audio quality and audio fidelity are great, Joey. You did a great job. You're Joey, I told you. Shut out Take Today. Playing with them was super fun. yeah I learned that shit like really fast. I think I learned their entire set in like 11 days.
00:43:52
Speaker
um But yeah, the Joe invited me to play and it was super fun to go there and play music. And then also podcast. It was a great, great time. And Connecticut's beautiful. And we drove through New York, which was also a beautiful drive. Yeah. It was very cool. Very cool trip. And so I'm not surprised that people really dug those episodes. I think it was also very, like a lot of people that were there went back and listened to it. And that was also special. So yeah, there was, um, I don't know.
00:44:20
Speaker
Like I'm sure I could find it if I look for it, but there was like a big ah like a Google photos like link that had kind of just everyone who wanted to upload photos into it and like that was Growing and being shared around around the same time these episodes came out I feel like and it was just like ah Everyone was kind of reliving the weekend like a month later. Yeah, kind of deal it was it was very cool We've talked about how like going there and performing and doing all the stuff that we did was like
00:44:51
Speaker
like a reaffirming. It's what kept this podcast going. In a lot of ways. For sure. Yeah. I think we all were like, well, you know, like, where's the end point? And then I think after we did that, we're like, oh, yeah, we can keep doing this. Forever. This is a lot of fun. Yeah. Forever. Forever. I don't know if I can promise that. No, forever. Well, I mean, we watch this YouTube video on how to try to figure out eternal life and stuff. I think we could put our brains in one of those things.
00:45:20
Speaker
Keep doing this forever. It drains into one of those things. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't pay pay attention. Can we be those like head in a jars from Futurama? Yeah, I hope so. That's what I'm hoping for. Honestly, if if I was going to live eternally, then just my head like doing bits is probably how I want it to go. If you can somehow get me two hands to play video games, then that's ideal. Yeah, I head in two hands. I don't want to be submerged in liquid. I got to be able to make two hands to jerk off my two dicks.
00:45:51
Speaker
Grab each boob and I'll be OK. Nice. That's four hands. Yeah. You need four hands. Is that or? Is that or? She's not that picky. Or or. All right, let's move along. Time for number seven.
00:46:12
Speaker
I kind of want to tail that up with like so you wrote this book and now we have a second
Aaron Carnes on Ska and Podcasting
00:46:16
Speaker
edition coming up. with The podcast is kind of like wedged in there as something that that came out kind of alongside and your podcast started like not that long before we did ours and I think was kind of in a vacuum. But what was the ah impetus to starting it as a podcast? It originally was just ah as a way to promote in a fence of Scott. I started it Uh, I started recording and like with Adam in, uh, like the end of 2020, you know, in anticipation of my book releasing on May 4th, 2021. And, and so, and a lot of that too was driven by this fact that I was releasing a book while we were still in COVID and not really knowing I've never really done this. And then I've never done this in a world where like the rules are all kind of different. So I was just like, I don't know, maybe a podcast, probably that's probably a best way to reach people right now.
00:47:06
Speaker
And I asked Adam cause he, he like listened to a lot more podcasts and he'd done some stuff before. So I figured he like knew more than I did. Cause I had very, very little experience with podcasting. And so we started working together and recording episodes and putting out like mid January, 2021.
00:47:24
Speaker
Uh, every Wednesday, we actually haven't not mixed an episode since we started. And then as it was, we're leading up to the release of the book. There's a couple of interesting things happening happened around the release of my book. Some of them related to the podcast. Some of them not. One of the things that happened was Jeff Rosenstock released Scott dream on, did you read set on four 20, right? Four 20. Okay. So my book was released on May 4th.
00:47:54
Speaker
And so we're looking at ah just a few weeks before my book came out. and and perfect timing yeah and Because his album like inspired a lot of like articles like, is Ska back? you know and I was fortunate to be considered a person that needed to be part of these conversations, even though my book had absolutely nothing to do with whether Ska was back now or not. It was like really mostly about wanting people to look back at Ska in the 90s and the 2000s and the 80s and sort of like reconsider its legacy. That was really what my book was about. But they a lot of these places wanted quotes from me. And so my book got like kind of like part became part of that. And then to top that off, Jeff
00:48:37
Speaker
um wrote the foreword of my book, and he did one of his first full-on Scott Dream interviews on my podcast. And I think I released that right around when my book was released. So all of this. And then we got Patrick Stump shortly after there, and that like that episode completely blew up. So with all that stuff happening, the podcast is really kind of like doing better than we anticipated and becoming more of its own thing than I had anticipated as well. So we just kept doing it after I was outside of the promotions, outside of that window of promotion. Our our first episode also dropped May 4th.
00:49:19
Speaker
Oh yeah. No, I did it as a Star Wars thing. It was all in a vacuum. like I think at the time, like because i I conceptualized the podcast in December, and at the time, In Defense wasn't around. Scott Punk International was around, but he was a radio show at the time.
00:49:37
Speaker
Yeah. And um so I was like, oh, no one's really doing like, you know, history stuff like we'll just like come up with this thing where and we were we wanted to do it kind of like um ah like Doughboys was like one of our top podcasts. We wanted to do it like and we're like, we'll make it kind of funny and we'll just kind of like chit chat and like talk about records and stuff. And then.
00:49:57
Speaker
Over time we added guests and then, yeah, same. Haven't missed an episode since we started. um Easier said than done, but it's definitely been, now we've created a total system where it just keeps rolling. And then it's just kind of something you like you said. You'll probably find this funny. Since I didn't know how to podcast, or I didn't really know the first thing about podcasting, I enrolled in a podcasting course in the sort of spring of 2020.
00:50:24
Speaker
And there were some good things about it. Like some of the the basic structure of In Defense of Scott was kind of came from that sort of like an intro, like music and intro kind of transitioning into the interview itself. But there were certain things that they were telling me that was totally wrongheaded for what we were doing and that like kind of created a barrier of entry for me for a while. Like they were like,
00:50:48
Speaker
ah if you're gonna if you're going to do remote you know you If you're going to do remote interviews, you've got to hire ah like an audio tech to go. you know record the audio in person with them. And then you got to record it on Zoom and then you got to sync it. like They're just talking about this like way that they probably did things pre-COVID before all the technology like you know became so good. And I was just like kind of freaking out about this. And then I was talking to Adam about it. he's like He's like, don't. Just make it simple. Just do whatever you can do that it's going to let you do it and just
00:51:24
Speaker
don't don't put these like high bars for yourself for it. And then we did it and then like, like it sounds good. And then, you know, like, I don't know, like at some point we got better mics that were like only like a couple hundred bucks. And I'm just like, we sound like we're in the same room. I don't even know what these people were talking about in this class. You don't need a boom mic operator with their own audio. Like you can sound on Zencaster or Zoom. Well, Zoom's not quite as good, but like on this platform, we use Zencaster also.
00:51:53
Speaker
You sound like we're all sounding like in the same room, like it's good. Zencaster was a game changer for us, like we use Zoom at the start, but once we switched to Zencaster, we're like, oh shit, this is like, this is it. I mean, this has been the weeds for all you would-be podcasters listening. Zencaster gives you local audio, meaning that even though I'm in California and they're in Canada,
00:52:15
Speaker
they get the audio that would be recording on my computer. so There's no like artifacts like like you get with Zoom where it's like you can kind of hear the internet in it. yeah On top of that, just like for all you want to be podcasting, we've been using the same $30 mics for every single episode. How many episodes have we done? 160 some. 160 some odd episodes and their $30 Wish dot.com mics.
00:52:41
Speaker
ah And so and that was our interview with Aaron Carnes of Indefensive Ska. Long overdue. Getting into the Podweeds. Yeah he came on to promote the second edition of the book of Indefensive Ska. A lot of people who voted on this one wanted to shout out the interview section. I mean he came on to talk about the Chinkies and that was good too. Like the Chinkies are a great band and he told some stories because he was around for a lot of that stuff too. And he was living with Mike Park when the that band came about. He does tell a story about how he almost drummed for them, ah which is a funny story. um But people really liked the interview section where he talked about the book and starting the
Future Guests and Steely Dan Obsession
00:53:22
Speaker
podcast. And so that was the part that I clipped out. heck yeah But that was ah that was a fun episode.
00:53:27
Speaker
yeah Uh, it was fun talking pod stuff to him. But, uh, I think in order to completely close the loop, the only person from the pod, uh, verse. Yeah. The only person who hasn't been on is sbcu is Adam Davis is the only one that hasn't been on yet. Oh, we should. I'd like to be on for that. Yeah. Yeah. Adam Davis needs to, Adam Davis seems like the Lawler of the two.
00:53:54
Speaker
And, uh, he's also, he's a Scott core guy. We could, uh, we could, I bet he'd do a cool Scott core band. Well, apparently once, ah apparently he would do bucko nine, and but but we which is a band we have not done. Yeah. We're long overdue. Yeah. We're long overdue for a bucko nine episode for sure. That's not like terribly third wave.
00:54:10
Speaker
No, they're super third. wave What's their popular song? Why am I my town? My street. Give me peace of mind that can't be OK. Yeah. Oh, they also did Jennifer. Jennifer has a cold. OK. Fantastic song. So.
00:54:25
Speaker
Um, yeah, anyway we don't know. This isn't talk about bucco nine time, but another episode. Yeah, there'll be another. spell but now ah The only thing I'll say about that is I have the songs in the key of Bree bucco nine record and it's the shorter what it was the shorter one 10 inch. Yeah. There are there's four 10 inches rather than like that's cool a full record, which is wild. But I like it. It's kind of cool. I like weird record releases like that.
00:54:51
Speaker
But anyway, that's a fun episode. Go back and listen to it. Obviously, you know, he's a ska-lebrity to some degree. His podcast is on a network. Yeah, and they get like big guests that go on. And sometimes I ask those guests to come on this line and they'll sometimes come on. ah The trickle down. It doesn't work in capitalism, but it works in Scott podcast. 100%. If you ever want to hear the story about how one of the guests that's been on ah in defense asked to be on our podcast first and they ghosted me, I'll tell you all about it.
00:55:27
Speaker
Um, so let's, uh, we got one more clip and then, uh, that'll be it for part one. So let's do it. This is your number six. And so, um, I guess this is a question it could just to kind of pivot a little bit, a question I ask you every time you're wrong. Cause it's always a cool answer.
00:55:45
Speaker
What are you listening to right now? is it like you're always listening like crazy but damage no dude this is this isn't for i mean yes This is probably the the like objectively worst time to be asked this question. Dude, I have been i have been like struggling struggling with a crippling Steely Dan addiction over the last month.
00:56:09
Speaker
straight up listen to very, very little else except for, except for Steely Dan. Dude, I am like low key, high key. I am, I am obsessed. I mean, I watched, dude, I spent like, I spent like 45 minutes yesterday watching this two part iceberg video. I watched, I watched, I watched this fucking Donald Fagan hour long jazz piano seminar. I don't play piano, man. I don't know anything about piano. This shit blew my fucking mind.
00:56:36
Speaker
Dude, it's it's so fucked. oh I'm telling my top 100 artists I thought you were going to say just now. the Steely Dan was not even close. That's really insane, dude. That's why it's so fucked up that you asked me. How could you say that? How could you ask that? Just put me on the spot like that, dog. What were you supposed to talk about this before you started rolling?
00:57:00
Speaker
Usually, yeah. I was like, how can't we talk about it? I just can't really much about my crippling, steely dad addiction. No, dude, like, like for real, like yes yesterday, I hope my wife was, I was just, we were cleaning the apartment and I i hooked up a little Bluetooth speaker and I started playing reeling in the air. She's like, we have to listen to something else.
00:57:21
Speaker
And then I was texting my friend Jake from Grey Matter, who's also the Dan Head. Shout out, Jake. I love you. We've just been texting back and forth, like, dude, have you seen the 2003 bonus DVD, Steely Dan Confessions, that came with Everything Must Go? And he's like, no. And I was like, you gotta watch it. So I put him onto that. He's like, have you read Donald Fagan's autobiography? And I was like, no. So I put on Hold It The Library. Dude. What are you, like, number 30? They only have five copies. No one else wants it.
00:57:52
Speaker
I'm gonna pick that shit up tomorrow. Sick. Loving stuff other people hate is the best. Dude, it's it's so fucked. It's like the Sopranos. Every time I think I'm out, they pull me back in.
00:58:06
Speaker
so like my I actually blame Jeremy, my boss, shout out ah for sort of like spawning this obsession. Because we like i've i've like I've liked the band for a long time. um Like my parents played The Last Delayed Anne when I was growing up. So like I've never had like an aversion to them, ah the with the way that like a lot of people in the punk scene have.
00:58:28
Speaker
but A couple weeks ago, Jeremy was like, dude, have you seen the Making of Asia like documentary? It's crazy. And I was like, okay, how crazy can it be? And I watched it and I was like, that was crazy. And then like and then so i'll just I'll just spend like all day listening to Steely Dan and thinking about Steely Dan and reading about Steely Dan. And then I'll get to work and I'm just like trying to put on other music, like listen listening to you know friends bands or whatever. And Jeremy comes in, he's like, dude, I learned the solo to peg. And I'm like, no, here we go. And then I have to listen to Steely Dan for the rest of the day.
00:59:00
Speaker
It's so fucked dude. and okay
00:59:04
Speaker
um So man, what's your like, uh, what's like rank it. Like I don't, I know so little about Steely Dan. Like what, what right like what, where should people start? Like now that you're an expert. Should we talk about mess? I feel like I'm going to embarrass myself going in about the Dan dude. The Dan. the dan that's That's a real heads call it. Any major dude will tell you it's called the Dan.
00:59:30
Speaker
I know that it's a vibrator, right? Or like a sex coin? That's the only thing I know about Steely Dan. I found that out and I told Hope and she can't get enough of that. She thinks it's the funniest thing. So then every time I read Steely Dan, she's like, did you tell them about the dildo? And I was like, yeah, dude. Yeah. Of course I did. Of course I did. That's a great story. Yeah. that' What do you say about making it? I'm a Dan head. Of course I told them about the dildo thing. Oh my God, that clip's so bad. I'm so sorry.
01:00:00
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Alright, we'll talk about mess. Okay. yeah Yo, when you invite me back for the Steely Dan episode, it's fucking on. Actually, okay, new patron exclusive right here. New Idea just dropped. They have that song, Cousin Dupree, where he mentions being in a ska band. Babylon Sisters has a reggae groove.
01:00:22
Speaker
umma It's there. It's it's just saying it's no less crazy than any of the other episodes you're on. That's what I'm saying, dude. We threw the rule book out. I'll have an episode. Y'all can come guest. Don't threaten me with a good time. I'm just kidding. Honestly, I would I would fuck that up so that you're so good at this, Rob.
01:00:42
Speaker
but I, that would be like, it could be like that, that podcast analyze fish where, uh, they were trying, where, um, Harris Whittles was trying to convince Scott Ockerman that fish is a good band and would just play playlists for him the whole episode and try to get it to get into it. And then even took him to a fish concert and gave him like a whole bunch of like roadside drugs, like the ah yeah the authentic fish experience.
01:01:10
Speaker
Yeah, it just could not do it. It was like the whole concept was is like 10 episodes could not get him into fish no matter how already tried. It was really genius. So anyway, I'm into it. I'm i'm willing to be convinced and become a Dan head. I don't I don't know if I want to give you this burden.
01:01:30
Speaker
that's fair it heavy is the the shoulders that carry the steely heavy is the heavy is the dan it holds steel i don't fucking know yeah we we were dancing around it and then just lost it yeah dancing around it oh there we go there we go ladies and gentlemen we got it thank you All right, so what is your history with Mest? And that was our Mest episode with Eichlers. It was an all-timer. That was one of my favorite episodes of the year. I'm glad I made the top 10. A little low, but play I thought it'd be a bit higher. Yeah, that was a good app, but no Stellan. So know maybe maybe that's why. Stellan was on that app.
01:02:11
Speaker
Yeah, probably. But that I'm making things people specifically were calling out the Steely Dan story as their favorite.
Eichlers Episode Highlights
01:02:21
Speaker
It is very good. So fucking funny when he dropped that bombshell on us.
01:02:26
Speaker
It was here comes the boom. Yeah, we we had no idea what to do with it. was It was like a pretty like fun, like first 15 minutes of that episode. It's like we're going through the motions, you know, what's going on in your world? I like yeah he's playing an omnigun now. I was telling us some like little road stories and what he's working on. And then all of a sudden like, hey, you know, he used to tell us ah about all the crazy stuff he's listening to. What's he listening to now? Fucking crushed us like we just couldn't handle it. It was very good.
01:02:55
Speaker
And the episode skyrockets after that and then we get into the messed stuff, which is fun. um ah Inside baseball, you can listen to it if you want, but that episode is scripted ah by a bunch of fake facts for Rob again. Oh, that's always fun when you do that. It's not as insane as the Sugar Ray uh episode that I did the year before but does mess not have a lot about them either no uh but they had to do with feldy yeah but john feldman was like their big guy who broke them out and so I did this whole thing where john feldman basically just talked in goldfinger quotes feldman was the ditty to messed usher yes you got it or usher to their Justin Bieber
01:03:45
Speaker
Uh, but yeah, it's fun. It's a, it's got a lot of bits in it. So, you know, if you like bits, it's like, uh, Ike was my like top Spotify. Wrapped number one who like i gro was at the top. We were both listening to hyper pop. What were you listening to? My number one was Charlie XCX Von Dutch, like number one with a bullet. Wow.
01:04:09
Speaker
Mine was croak, Monsieur by a word burglar. Cause I got really into Canadian hip hop this year. Yeah, I think that's fine. I think it was maybe so true. Bestie was the top one. Von Dutch, Charlie XCX. It's okay to just admit that you're jealous of me. It's a good song. I like that song. I like Charlie XCX. That was a good record. Yeah. yeah um You're for hyper pop. Do you think there was trickle down for Ike? Cause it was a brat summer.
01:04:35
Speaker
Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. Hyperpop summer. His new record was more hyper than it was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was more pop-punky. Yeah, because he was really, he's all into that summertime. Summer pop-punk. Summer pop-punk, which is why the Messed episode really worked well. That's ah that's it for best of part one for this year. How do you guys feel about the the first five? Bad. Okay.
01:05:00
Speaker
Whoa, wouldn in hear fast I them. they were good They were good. They're good. Very good. They make sense. I can never predict. Honestly, like like, Rob, you encouraged us to vote. Yeah. And I did so. And as I was looking at all the all of the episodes, I was like,
01:05:20
Speaker
How do I even pick one of these? It was genuinely difficult. So I had no idea what other people would pick. Do you have any predictions for the top five?
01:05:30
Speaker
i mean I think ah what i'm I'm aware of one of the shenanigans because I fell victim to it, I believe. Spicy like a banana. god There's got to be shenanigans around H-town. There's got to be shenanigans surrounding Banana Van. yeah oh yeah There's got to be, I feel like I i caught wind of a couple shenanigans.
01:05:53
Speaker
has to be Unless Jigsaw was up to some tricks and voice comedy. I feel like Devin Cale will be in the top five. Okay. Uh, the bracket appearance. Okay. Um, maybe. I don't know though. Yeah. No, it's, it's tough. and Any thoughts, Celine? Do you have any predictions for the top five?
01:06:17
Speaker
What happened this year?
01:06:23
Speaker
Maybe something from like the real big fish. I feel like when I posted a little like grid thing, I feel like the real big fish bracket has yet to come out to show up. It's true. It's like something from then. Brackets traditionally don don't make the talk in. I think it's because people forget. I know. I think it's because people can't like define the episode as well. It's easier to remember, oh, when blank did blank. yeah you know like That's what I think. yeah That's my opinion. interesting okay
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01:07:39
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