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It's Checkered Past: The Ska'd Cast's 200th episode special! And what better way to celebrate than to do what all music, movies and video games do... with a shot for shot remake! Rob, Celine and Engineer Joey sit down to redo their debut episode on Save Ferris using the exact same notes from the first time. On the journey they reminisce about their first episode, how the podcast has changed and whether or not their thoughts on Save Ferris remain true to today.

The Roast of Checkered Past is coming up! If you want to poke fun and take a swipe at your favorite hosts, send your audio or text file to checkeredpastsubmissions@gmail.com

Hosts: Celine, Rob and Joey  
Engineer: Joey  
Editor: Cutman
Theme Song: OAO by Mad Bomber Society
Skassociate Producer: Chris Reeves of Ska Punk International  
Special Thanks: Mega Michi and Adam the Ska Mailman

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Introduction to Save Ferris and Podcast Mission

00:00:00
Speaker
Today on We Modify Our Expectations of What Means Everything to Us as we explore the impact and music of 90s Swing Ska One Hit Wonders Save Ferris on Checkered Past the SkaDcast.
00:00:35
Speaker
Welcome to Checkered Past, the Scottcast with Celine and Rob. The show where two lifelong Scottficionados explore the history and impact of a different band each episode hope to bring in new fans along the way. I'm Rob and this is my sister and co-host, Celine.
00:00:48
Speaker
You didn't change that. Hey. How are you doing? I'm fine. That's wild. it's pretty It's not that far off from what you do now. Yeah, so, you know what, I'll introduce him.
00:01:03
Speaker
Engineer Joey is here. Hello, Engineer Joey. So weird to not hear you say, what up, checkerheads? Oh, yeah. I i don't know when I started doing that. when When did you start doing that? When did I say, what up, because Slin was one that coined the term checkerheads.
00:01:19
Speaker
Yeah. Slin had a bunch of ones where she was like, we should call them checkers or checkerheads. Yeah. Was that on this episode? Yeah. No, that was later. but that was later.
00:01:31
Speaker
But probably before 10, I would assume.

Reflecting on Podcast Evolution and Listener Engagement

00:01:34
Speaker
Yeah, I think so. And I don't play myself as this co-aficionado anymore. You didn't at the time either. I put that on you.
00:01:42
Speaker
That's good. I was so confident. and I was just playing Tetris. So if if if you're a listener and you're confused as to what's going on right now, let me explain it to you.
00:01:53
Speaker
This is our 200th episode.
00:01:58
Speaker
yeah but What we just decided to do for this one is do what I call a shot for shot remake of episode one of Checkered Past this podcast the Skycast, the Save Ferris episode. And so me and Salen and engineer Joey are going to basically redo the whole episode, minor tweaks here and there to make it more in line with like the the current format. But I did not change any of the notes.
00:02:22
Speaker
Any of the notes at all are exactly as I wrote them four ish years ago. ah And so we're going to see if anything holds up, if things have changed, if anything is changing.
00:02:34
Speaker
Like, what were we doing at the time? We dunk on our first episode lot. Like, I mean, just, I haven't listened to it again. I used to tell everyone to skip it, even early on. Yeah.
00:02:44
Speaker
I think, like, start an episode two at the very least, and even then, I don't think. I don't even know, yeah. Usually I say we don't get good till Skank and Pickle. That was the first. That's Rob's dump truck ass. That's the first, like, good episode. Right?
00:03:00
Speaker
And then after that, we started getting guests and trombonuses, and it started to pick up. But, Yeah, basically, we're doing this is like a retrospective a little bit mixed with like, how how did we get here? And it's been a long time.
00:03:14
Speaker
um Like, and was telling Joey off air before we started, before I realized that I could just type my notes into a Word document, or you think I would know that to begin with, was keeping all my notes on my notes app on my phone.
00:03:26
Speaker
ah And it was clumsy. That's how I roll when I have anything to do with being organized for things. and Normally it works good, but typing pages and pages of of historical notes about bands does not work on your phone.
00:03:44
Speaker
text Even if I'm dictating it. Well, I never plan to do that. so Yeah, exactly. Easy peasy. will not We'll not do it. We'll take your advice. We'll not do that.
00:03:57
Speaker
But yeah, it's ah it's interesting that the intro, like the, like you know, hope to bring in new fans along the way thing is exactly the same as I wrote it. Like, I didn't change any of that. That's the same. Yeah. Oh, we we didn't even dig into the pun. What was the, what did you start with, with the puns?
00:04:12
Speaker
Or was it even puns? What the hell was it? No, I just said two lifelong scuffishian autos. So that's another thing. When did I start, like, mixing that part up? Yeah, three of the things. Yeah. that I don't know. That could have been that No, that would have like started happening. Yeah, pretty early, right?
00:04:29
Speaker
And it got crazy. I like how we also did no research on our own stuff. I didn't want to. I wanted this to stay fresh. Like, what yeah were we doing? Like, you know, I think that's interesting.
00:04:39
Speaker
But even like a at the beginning, I don't say on this episode. Like, I don't even have that part yet. Like, and and actually, I'm reading the notes. And if you're like, hey, it sounded like you skipped a word.
00:04:51
Speaker
And it's because this is exactly how I wrote it. Today on, we modify it like I skipped the name the podcast. I was kind of wondering why you're reading it a little bit like a robot.
00:05:03
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know what happened. It's not a full sentence. maybe But I did do the thing where I used the albums to like, you know, you know, build you into the episode. Like that was still the thing at the time.
00:05:15
Speaker
I don't think I ever stopped doing that. So that's still consistent. That's good. I mean, 200 episodes later, still doing that one thing. yeah is A few things that still stand the test of time.
00:05:27
Speaker
But I guess that's the thing is like, so as of record, actually our Tron bonuses are numbered ahead of our mainline episodes. So like our numbered episodes are are coming out way less frequently than they used to. Part of it is that we just haven't been bringing on guests as frequently.
00:05:44
Speaker
And honestly, we've been kind of like the brackets kind of started becoming more of a thing. um And so what was the original concept of the show, which was supposed to be Rob tells Celine about Ska. That was the idea. Right. right Right. And that kind of morphed into whatever bullshit we do now. Like, okay but that was the concept then.
00:06:06
Speaker
And Joey wasn't even on the pod at that time. Joey didn't really start. timing Checked out bonuses. Right. I think that's when you started coming on the show.
00:06:18
Speaker
i think so. like the camera People were sending in letters asking for more Joey. You chime in once in a while. so And then you started getting less checked out and like kind of being here and up clicking things. yeah I think when Joey started becoming like a minor Ska Twitter celebrity, that was when things started to pop off. Joey always had like way more of a presence on the socials than me or Sly. I'm just about to hit 420 on the new-new.
00:06:49
Speaker
blue The blue sky? Yeah, just about to hit 420. Yeah. Almost there. then i'm butnna just Then you have to keep it there. Yeah, I'm just going to stop being funny on the Internet because that'll be our

Detailed History and Analysis of Save Ferris

00:07:00
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blocking people.
00:07:01
Speaker
Exactly. ah That's too bad that you like me. Block. Block. Thanks for the support. Yeah. ah But yeah, so Joey wasn't even on the first Save Ferris episode.
00:07:14
Speaker
No, was i I was there. yeah I was hanging out. You guys were on the couch over there. Yeah, that's right. if you're ah well If you're a patron, you can see in the video there's a coach behind us.
00:07:25
Speaker
They were on the coach. Yeah, to to set the stage, like for for those who want to know what the recording setup is. ah So in Slim and Joey's basement, they have ah like a a full studio setup, basically, ah with the interface, dual monitors, all the recording equipment and the microphones.
00:07:44
Speaker
And then I have a little mini studio space in my house that I sometimes record from. um But at the at the beginning, we didn't have any idea of how we were going to do it. So Joey just like set up a table.
00:07:56
Speaker
are and And his couch. And then we me and Celine just sat there with the interface like in the middle and my laptop set up. And we just like recorded that way. Yeah. Which worked.
00:08:07
Speaker
Yeah, did the job. like We even did... little ring light Didn't we do that for a few episodes? Because why do I think that Eric even recorded at the table? Eric was not on the couch. He was seated at a little at the ah little folding table because the microphones were too close together and we couldn't figure out how to get them to not bleed because it was before we were even using a mixer.
00:08:34
Speaker
That was also ah a real, I think that it was a watershed episode. So this is some more history for, for, for, for fans. ah Like our first guest that we had on the show was Eric from ah some local metal bands here in Edmonton.
00:08:48
Speaker
And he, they're huge in Japan and Europe. Apparently. Yeah. yeah They're like, yeah. language yeah um And he likes Operation Ivy, but hates all other kinds of ska.
00:09:01
Speaker
But he was the person that we thought of and who just was like opened up and said, yeah, I'll it. He also like demanded. No, he was like petitioning to be on the podcast. Yeah, he really wanted to talk about Op Ivy. He loves Op Ivy, like loves them.
00:09:14
Speaker
so And he crushed possibly, i think he held the record for most beers crushed until the groups came on and beat him. Pretty much. Yeah.
00:09:25
Speaker
Pretty sure. And but that said, I think that that also said it because that was also one where like we started doing more bits. Like that's also when I played the ah the Hollywood undead cover of on the episode. yeah I did a few other things. Yeah. It's weird to go back and think about it.
00:09:46
Speaker
And also, thats i was going to say, it's weird to think about um rolling bits into it because it's so bit heavy now. Yeah. We didn't do bits as much. They were a little IDOS.
00:10:00
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. A little bit. Like, we knew we were going to do scoff hunts early. But that's what we that's the only funny thing we thought we were going to do. like right we We kind of thought we were more sincere about it. Well, I think we kind of thought the joke was, or like the funny thing was that like Rob would be the guy that knows stuff and Selene is going to be the person who didn't know stuff. And that would be where the jokes would come from, right? would be like the interplay of Selene learning about Ska and liking it a little bit, but also kind of not liking it.
00:10:35
Speaker
But it shifted pretty quick. was more into it or i feel was a lot nicer to the music earlier on that's for sure yeah for sure but i also feel like you like i didn't really want it like it was i was genuine but i was also but you know i also got like burnt out by listening to so much like it was still like a novelty ah then yeah yeah and also now you um I feel like at the time you were like, yeah, I like Ska, the umbrella of Ska, but now that we've done 200 episodes, you're like, no, I know what subgenres of Ska that I like and what I do not like, and you're much happier to say now that you're like, I just don't like this type of Ska or whatever, right?
00:11:18
Speaker
I definitely think like the, the feedback that we were getting really informed how we did the show, like for the future. And I think at first we were, and we'll talk about it more as we go through the episode. At first we like, we got ah not great ah feedback from people when we started. Didn't start on a good note.
00:11:41
Speaker
um But over time, as we found our voice and we started interacting with people, I think created a bit of a positive feedback loop. You know what I mean? Where like we were talking to people online. We started talking to bands.
00:11:54
Speaker
We started to kind of get ingratiated in the culture and in the scene. And then it kind of helped us. you know, find our voice and find how it's appealing to people. Yeah.
00:12:05
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Find the right people to like start listening, like attract the right people to start listening. Cause like, I think initially to be fair, it was like not our people listening. ah hundred percent.
00:12:17
Speaker
We were really relying on Reddit and yeah like now I know we're not the Reddit crowd necessarily. Although there's a few, there's like, we were friends with some of the mods and there's definitely a few, but it's mixed in and out. Right.
00:12:32
Speaker
Yeah. I think it's um interesting that we... ah like the the way the way we took, we started the show a certain way, but we didn't really know what we were doing.
00:12:44
Speaker
And then we had some feedback and we started changing the show ah to like sort of fit our voices better. And I think by the time we sort of found our voice, the people who started getting interested and like getting what we were doing, getting how silly it is, i think we started, i think people started realizing it was like, oh, they're like the the the weird podcast you know what they're the silly Scott podcast and I think it took a handful of episodes or 10 episodes or whatever to find our niche that way and then for listeners to also realize that we're the goofy pod you know what I mean because IDLS was already going but they're like a serious thing and 23 minutes is a different format altogether like it was just a I think it took a little bit for people to pick up what we were putting down you know
00:13:36
Speaker
Definitely. Like, I think that the big watershed episodes for us, like, long term would have been Smash Mouth Trombonist. I think that was huge.
00:13:47
Speaker
Yeah. pivot ah And then the Groobs episode, I think, was, like, those two episodes are, like, and maybe even Reese. Although that was, like, a pretty big episode for us. Yeah. But those are kind of the ones that, when I think back on the podcast, the ones that stand out for me.
00:14:03
Speaker
Those are the ones where we had fun. Oh, tons of fun. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. the The ones where we have fun are the ones that people want to listen to. I i can tell. Yes. When we're not having fun, nobody wants to listen to it.
00:14:16
Speaker
It's fair. um All right. Do we want to enter the time scotching? That's how we start these, right? Geez. Sorry. One second. I did forget to put the time scotching music in there.
00:14:28
Speaker
and that This would not have been the original Time Scoshing song either. We didn't have a Time Scoshing song for a while. Oh no, we didn't. Yeah, we didn't always have one. yeah And then we had one and then we got a new one. so Are you ready to get in, everyone?
00:14:42
Speaker
We're getting in. Let's get it get in. or two
00:14:58
Speaker
Not a bad little ditty. ah The other thing, speaking of songs, OAO was always our theme song. yeah We reached out to Mad Bomber Society early, Celine did, and they said just don't be hateful. Was that what they said?
00:15:10
Speaker
Yeah, but we didn't have to pay them. Basically just don't be dicks. Which is a fantastic business arrangement. Yeah, that couldn't have gone more smoothly for us, honestly.
00:15:22
Speaker
like I'll say when you look back on it, you know we had some parts, but a lot of it went pretty smooth overall. Happened pretty organically. Yeah. yeah yeah Our logo. We didn't run into a lot of roadblocks outside. Still the same logo.
00:15:35
Speaker
Yeah. Still the same logo, yeah. That was good. The logo crushes it. I kind of met. The only thing is is like now I realize you're not really supposed to have white background logos for podcasts.
00:15:46
Speaker
ah But it doesn't matter. I like it. We're bucking trends. We're bucking trends. Says who, though? Yeah. That's just like, i don't know. I read that somewhere that said like you have to have a colored background.
00:15:58
Speaker
But I don't know. It's something to do with the algorithms are like standing. Oh, we have we have all the colors in our background. It's white. That's the works. That's right. We're like a dark side of the moon, right?
00:16:11
Speaker
Yeah. We're the end of it. Yeah. All right, let's do this. Okay. I'm going to pull up my notes. I'm going to read it exactly as written. I'm not going to, and then we can talk about how weird this is. All right. 1995. This is about Save Ferris.
00:16:27
Speaker
I didn't say that yet. Save Ferris. I'm sure we would have talked about it at some point. yeah The reason why we picked Save Ferris also as a first band is um because they had enough records out that you could do the whole band in one shot.
00:16:43
Speaker
That was why I picked it. Oh, yeah, that whole thing. And they had just done a review. Yeah, and one album was called Checkered Past. Yeah. Yes, and one album was called Checkered Past. seemed to really work.
00:16:54
Speaker
we We were being funny. we when i When I wrote the name for the episode or for the pod, Checkered Past the Ska Cast, I just, I loved the pun so much that I ignored the fact that there were other podcasts called Checkered Past. Okay. And that there was already a Ska album called Checkered Past. So...
00:17:12
Speaker
Yeah, not great. Not good for the algorithm. buy something Something that we you learned, that we learned in general within the first probably three episodes coming out was a lot of stuff about SEO. yeah A lot of stuff about SEO that we had no idea about. I read a lot of things about SEO and I just ignored it and did my thing anyway.
00:17:36
Speaker
here we are. It's more sincere. Yeah. hey if people are more sincere yeah That's true. It's more authentic. voice. What else would we call it, right?
00:17:47
Speaker
What else would we call it? All right. 1995, formed an OC made of T-Bone Willie of the Knuckle Brothers, songwriter, guitarist, Brian Mashburn, classically trained singer, Monique Powell, and oddball hat wearing bassist, Bill Uechi came out of the ashes of a mariachi punk band, Los Pantolones.
00:18:06
Speaker
Named from the movie fers bueller Ferris Bueller's Day Off, started their own label Star Pool, named after T-Bone's weird shaped pool where the band jammed and partied. In 1996, they self-released Introducing.
00:18:22
Speaker
That must be the record's name. Monique appears on the RBF song She Has a Girlfriend Now. Band tours like crazy and becomes a K-Rock favorite, eventually becoming signed by Epic by winning the Best Unsigned Band Competition by the Grammys.
00:18:38
Speaker
ah The first of many controversies to follow. I don't know what I'm talking about here. It must have been ripped. They seem like some point form. yeah It seems like you were like going to riff off of these points. I think so, right? Bantours like crazy.
00:18:51
Speaker
Bantours like crazy. And becomes K-Roy. So you can see like how why I have a... don't Don't write on your phone for like full notes. like yeah You can't script on the phone is what I i learned here.
00:19:03
Speaker
You can't script on the phone. Band tours like crazy. Band tours like crazy. ah Well, let's play the first song then built off of that. This is Support Your Local Ska Band.
00:19:24
Speaker
That's a good time. You didn't get to have an opinion last time. I didn't. Love a song that spells. Lady vocals sometimes. Lady vocals sometimes. There will be some lady vocals sometimes.
00:19:45
Speaker
a song that spell lady vocals sometimes lady vocal sometimes there'll be some lady vocals sometimes
00:19:57
Speaker
Does it sound like she's classically trained? Yeah. And I mean, it was her versus Gwen at the time, and i her voice just a little more pretty, I think. And refined. Yeah, right?
00:20:13
Speaker
or Doesn't have that as much of the wine. That thing. oh yeah They do have the vibrato, though. Vibrato for days. Vibrato watch high. A lot of vibrato, yeah. I didn't even know to look for it then.
00:20:26
Speaker
ah Now you're a master. It's true. yeah Now you're on the hunt. Yeah. Move over, Craven the Hunter. Here comes Céline the vibrato hunter. Anyway, um the ah yeah that's the other thing I guess we're going to find out is whether or not our opinions hold true from episode one, right?
00:20:44
Speaker
i feel like I feel like I'll be a little all over the place. I feel like I was just being too positive. I feel like I was just being really positive last time. Yeah. We got very negative at one part, but we we'll see if we hold up our our negativity.
00:20:58
Speaker
Because that was the other thing. We had said we want to be like we were we were um didn't want to be the podcast that um just like gushed over everything.
00:21:11
Speaker
We thought that was lame. We wanted to have honest opinions. Right. Yeah. and I think we swung back and forth like way too hard. Like I feel like over time we have a more balance Or even when we're being negative, we're we figured out a way to do it without being dicks.
00:21:27
Speaker
yeah We've learned the hard way. i think we we understand We didn't expect bands to listen to it. well and And also, we understand that the the industry in more context now.
00:21:40
Speaker
So I think when we're being critical of a band now, we are educated enough to be... actually critical of the band ah rather than just being like, this sucks. yeah You know what I mean? I 100% know what you mean. yeah I do still do that a little bit Yeah, a little bit, but but sometimes you get the feedback. Nobody gets mad when we do it anymore.
00:22:03
Speaker
Yeah, that must mean something. Our delivery is better, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. Sporting Local Ska Band is good song, man. I don't know. It's still good.
00:22:14
Speaker
Yeah. It's pretty fun.

Exploring Related Bands: Starpool and Beyond

00:22:15
Speaker
It's fun. Yeah, it's real fun. I think I'm going to like Save Ferris.
00:22:21
Speaker
Yeah. It'd be hard to not dance if that came on. Hell yeah. It's the swing. I like the swing stuff. You know, it's fun. It's good times. It's such good message. Yeah.
00:22:32
Speaker
You know, holds holds true. What is it? 28 years later. Hell yeah. All right. 1997. That was the other thing I did at this time with my notes. I went year by year.
00:22:43
Speaker
um It means everything is released and come on, Eileen. but The album's name comes from Peaks at 26 produced by Mr. Big Peter Collins, who produced Rush Bon Jovi and Operation Mind Crime by Queensryche. Really?
00:22:59
Speaker
Wow. I forgot that. ten World is New and Goodbye are released and do decently well. Videos for Come On and World is New. Period. Album goes platinum internationally due to success in Japan and Mexico. I feel like you sold this a little better the first time.
00:23:17
Speaker
was more riffage. I guess you've gotten worse now.
00:23:23
Speaker
Yeah, I guess I was riffing more before and not just reading directly off my scripts. Yeah, now yeah you need a teleprompter. You've like... ah geez Cover of Artificial Life on OC Punk Comp and SYLSB on Running Naked Through the Cornfield.
00:23:40
Speaker
ah Reviews for album are middling, save for a rave review by Pitchfork. Oh, I have the whole thing here. What the fuck were you doing? What was I doing? here's the whole i You know what I said? I was going to do it word for word. Okay. I put the whole Pitchfork review in here. Wow. you i go yeah I wonder if you read it the first time.
00:24:00
Speaker
I'm sure I did. I must have. I was so thrilled that I found this. that I was just like, victory lap. People are going to stoked. right, here we go. If you're lucky, really lucky in life, you might be able to occasionally catch sight of a band that has reached their perfect groove.
00:24:16
Speaker
It's when they're tight and unified, playing music for the sheer fun and love of it, far before the cynicism sets in. They give off a special energy that is meant for the smaller venues. They record CDs that become keepers, the mainstay of your collection, though they may go out of style someday.
00:24:33
Speaker
Save Ferris's It Means Everything knocked my socks off. I was in bed. The changer had just changed over from meat beat manifesto and off in the distance. The CD pulled me awake with its clean bouncing groove.
00:24:45
Speaker
It's tight, unpretentious, energetic ska led by the rich and soothing voice of Monique Powell opened my eyes to a beautiful day. Yes. Abandon their perfect groove. I reached but bedside to my DC city paper and began to frantically search for them live.
00:25:00
Speaker
That's when their cover of Come on Eileen came on. I think I came. Great music that won't be soon forgotten by anyone who's heard that. James P. Wisdom of Pitchfork. Okay, James P. Wisdom.
00:25:13
Speaker
dropping OC fans love them mainstream press questions whether Monique is a Gwen ripoff. That's not a sentence. Which I do think is like... Yeah, what is that sentence that even? I do think it's rooted in misogyny, all the comparison.
00:25:26
Speaker
I think so because they're yeah yeah two they're both from the same area. and Both women. Yeah, for sure. yeah but Their sound was noted for a definite swing sound that would influence later OC ska bands, especially JFC.
00:25:40
Speaker
Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah. yeah Especially Jesus fucking Christ. Rude as hell. I love this one. What the hell sentence is this? Sorry, OC fans love them. Oh, I get it. I should have put like a comma or something. Also, I spelled there T-H-E-R-E not T-H-E-I-R or whatever. Oh, dumb dumb.
00:26:00
Speaker
Big dummy. right, let's talk about it. It means everything. That's the big one. That's the Summer of Ska record. Okay. We have a few songs queued up, I think. So we didn't pre-listen to the records like we normally do. I thought it would be more fun to go in cold on these.
00:26:14
Speaker
So we're just going to see if we still enjoy it. ah Because I think we said we like this stuff. ah So I think the first song is World is New. Is that right? It is. It is. Here we go.
00:26:36
Speaker
Oh yeah. This is a classic. Yeah, this is good. This is a good time. It's a little third wave. It's very third wave. But this is like tolerable third wave.
00:26:48
Speaker
Yeah. This is still pretty fun. The harmonies are good. Yeah, i was going to say the lady-man harmonies working together. do a lot of Beauty and the Beast?
00:26:59
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Very good. the colony metal, yeah.
00:27:04
Speaker
Also, their use of, like, their distorted whatever quote-unquote punk rock guitar tone ah it sounds really good. Yeah. I think their horn section sounds You're in your bedroom. Yeah.
00:27:16
Speaker
ah Yeah, actually, the horns the horns sound very good as well. Like, the this album, the recording on this album is very tight, very good. Yeah, it sounds like Operation Mindcrime a little bit. Kind of. Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:31
Speaker
no good I think that it's a bop. Yeah, that is a bop. I'm not a third wave gal and i i stand i do I don't hate that. I don't hate that at all. I wouldn't be terribly upset. Yeah, hell yeah. Good time.
00:27:42
Speaker
Four years later and we're like, you know, you heard it here first. It means everything. It's getting the CPSC. Third wave is much better when lady's singing. i think so. Yeah. yeah Yeah, for sure.
00:27:54
Speaker
Like when it's just not just a dude talking about their dicks, right? Yeah. That's a little shitty their girlfriend is. That's a big 1997 third wave thing. That Monique Powell absolutely sang a song about with real big fish. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. ah ah What's the next one? Do I have ah the big one?
00:28:15
Speaker
Oh, the big one next. the The one that makes the one that made that reviewer come. You. <unk> what he said! That's what the reviewer said. Let's check the streams on this on this guy.
00:28:37
Speaker
a respectable 29 million. That's a lot. That's a lot. Yeah. World is New has 6 million. That's pretty good. You're on the sneeze app.
00:28:51
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Played pretty fast. Yeah. Brian Mashburn. mean, this is good song. Like, this is a catchy song. Good choice for covering. Dixie's Midnight Runners were Ska Jason.
00:29:04
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Yep.
00:29:07
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Because of all the methamphetamines they did, right?
00:29:13
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what is Okay, so are they the worst offender for doing a drug that you can't tell they did on the record, or would that honor go to Fleetwood Mac? No, Motorhead.
00:29:26
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Motorhead? Yeah. I mean, there's no way you can tell those guys were doing speed, right? No fucking way. i thought you were serious for a second. have You really got me. ah Yeah, i don't know. that i mean, that could be a whole... That's better than the original song, Come On, Eileen.
00:29:46
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You think so? I don't like the original. That's fair.
00:29:51
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The original gives a little journey to me. It gives me the same vibe when people start singing, like, don't stop believing. It's like, okay, yeah, I get it. It gives me the same energy. get your point. It's got a little bit more of a Celtic vibe, I think, because I think that was Dexy's Midnight Runner's whole deal, right, is that they were trying to be... Are they Irish or Scottish? I can't remember one. I thought they were Australian.
00:30:14
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I could have actually been like runners. I, that's what I thought i could be wrong. i don't know. Um, I just, yeah. Um, they're the music video though. They were like, um, scamps like hobos or something in the music video for that song. And it's just inextricably tied to the song for me. So I just picture these. Oh, and they're from Birmingham.
00:30:36
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, Celtic folk I see here as their big influence. Yeah. I guess they may just have some that's influence from there. But yeah. Yeah. know. right. That's another trombonist. Dexie's Midnight Runners.
00:30:49
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play Come On Eileen 13 times in a row. just All right. What do I got next? Super Spy? Yes. I fucking love this song. Are you ready? Spy Spy.
00:31:01
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Yeah. This is ah the for all the GoldenEye heads out there.
00:31:07
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all the sniper heads yeah free femme for you
00:31:20
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you i do love spy scott my favorite not genre there was so

Podcast Entertainment Value and Future Plans

00:31:29
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many like At the time, like, remember there was, like, spy tech or whatever? Like, there there was all those toys that were, like, kids spy gear. Like, at the end of the 90s, too, spies were huge. Yeah, spy kids. Yeah, spy kids was a big thing. Being a spy, Kim Possible. Pierce Brosnan, Mission Impossible. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Mission Impossible. I said Kim Possible.
00:31:53
Speaker
Oh. Yeah. You like a agreed to your, I said Kim Possible and you were like Mission Impossible. yeah so You know that one with Tom Cruise and the mole rat? Yeah. I was like different, different energy, but do do do do.
00:32:09
Speaker
What was the MTV spy show that had like the real blocky art? Do you remember what that one was called? Spy vs. Spy. Yes, I do. And they were like, it was like two cool dudes. Spy Groove.
00:32:20
Speaker
Spy Groove. That's what it was. Spy Groove was good. Spy Groove was really good, yeah. That didn't seem composse on it. Did it didn't really? That's fun. I feel like the people, someone who had something to do a Spy Groove had something to do with like Clone High and stuff.
00:32:35
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It was in that vein because i was yeah it was on MTV at the same time. Yeah, with like Mission Hill and all that. Yeah, yeah. Cool. Sick. All right. don't know. It means everything fucking good.
00:32:46
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far as third wave goes, well-produced, well-played. Songs are catchy. Monique sounds great. What a great record. This album was the 97 release, right?
00:32:58
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Yeah, that's the one. Summer of Ska. Hell yeah. I mean, they they they were a pillar of the scene at that time. It makes sense why. Absolutely. Yeah, it's good stuff. All right, let's take a break. And when we get back, more Save Ferris.
00:33:18
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Welcome back to Checkered Past. Checkered Past crew is here. Doing a shot for shot remake of episode one. God bless you. God bless you. Thank you. I've been waiting.
00:33:29
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It's been 200 apps and nobody's blessed. God bless you. God hasn't blessed me blessed me in 200 apps, I don't think. Maybe when Reese was on. Oh, maybe. Alright, so 1998.
00:33:42
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bed Band headlines first Warped Tour and tours with huge OC bands. Superstar drummer Mark Parsimendi Lee Band. Cover of Christmas Rapping released. I didn't put that on there.
00:33:55
Speaker
They do do a cover of Christmas Rapping. My name is and I'm here to sing. Like that? No, The Waitress's song. It is kind of clever. It's almost like a note for note.
00:34:08
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um Kind of like this podcast. A note for note of the Christmas rapping song. But she replaces it all the lyrics with Jewish references because she's Jewish. It's pretty funny. It's quite entertaining. ah ninety ninety nine 1999. Band appears in 10 Things featuring B-Side on soundtrack.
00:34:25
Speaker
10 Things I Hate About You, I assume? Yes. Sure. I'm going to assume that's what it is. I know they had a song on there. um A movie fucks. Modified is released to tepid response and huge fan backlash.
00:34:38
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Becomes a hit again in Mexico and Japan, but not so much in US. Tours with fewer ska bands, such as Lit. Such as? Such as they were They were their own worst enemy at that point in their career.
00:34:56
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The 90s. We didn't get treats like that back back in this episode. I have Artificial Life, I think. The cover? ah Yes, you do. Yeah, let's do that one. That's a fun cover.
00:35:10
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Here we go.
00:35:16
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Yeah, their horn section fucking rips. Yeah, that's a crazy choice for the horns to go.
00:35:31
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This song rips in general. This is good stuff.
00:35:35
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Yeah, this is a pop-share off Ivy song. Yeah.
00:35:46
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Generation, Joey. Yeah, love them. Pepsi guy? She punked up her voice pretty good, as much as she can. Yeah.
00:35:55
Speaker
Hey, this would have been, like, right around the time you could, like, collect Pepsi points and get a jet. Did you watch that documentary? I did. was very good. yeah yeah Did someone get a jet? No. They did not get a jet. They had enough points for it, though? They did. And in some countries, the advertisement said that it's like dramatized, but not in the U.S. So they actually like fought for it. They're like, hey, the advertisement doesn't say it's not a real thing.
00:36:25
Speaker
It's pretty wild. It's what the the Simpsons episode about the elephant is based on. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. Did he, did, it did, does anyone end up with the chat? No. No. No. Money?
00:36:37
Speaker
I do think there was some sort sort of payout if I'm incorrect. Yeah, i hope that's financial compensation. But I will say that the leather jacket, the leather Pepsi jacket from that thing, it was sick. And someone in my town had it.
00:36:51
Speaker
Someone like collected the buy. remember some dude having it and i was like, that fucking... It's flex. Yeah, straight up.
00:37:00
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All right, let's talk about the album Modified. We were not fans. We called it Maul Punk. We didn't like it. Oh, but we like that song or no? No, that was from a comp. That was just the one-off from a comp, from an off-rime. Yeah, but we're listen to this, that Artificial Life cover. That's old Save Ferris. Now let's go to middle Save Ferris where they changed their sound. So let's listen to Turn It Up.
00:37:22
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They put a turbocharger on there. They put some coilovers and modified that thing.
00:37:36
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I don't know scratching. Stint?
00:37:42
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I mean, I don't love this already. This is like, fine. I don't mind this. It's not like my favorite.
00:38:03
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don't mind this it's not like my favorite but I'm okay with this. I hate It's not doing it for me. It's a little Avril Lavigne me. I think that's what I said last time
00:38:20
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too. Yeah, her voice isn't as like... Yeah. doesn't have the opera voice. Which is missing.
00:38:30
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Yeah, definitely is kind of floating into that like simple plan, like pop punk for kids kind of. Yeah. Yeah. Zone a little bit for sure. Yeah, pop punk for kids for sure. Yeah.
00:38:41
Speaker
Oh, yeah. i I did like the synth, to be honest. I thought the synth was good. It was a cool addition. No ska. No ska. Almost no ska. Almost no ska. ah but Angry situation is what we have queued up right, let's do that one.
00:38:56
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remember liking this song. Maybe I didn't.
00:39:01
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It's got a bit more edge. Yeah. Guitar tone is thick with two Cs. Oh, there's horns now.
00:39:15
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And like a gritty skank. Yeah.
00:39:21
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Much more ska on. Yeah, this this one's better than the last one, I would say. I'm more into this.
00:39:36
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Yeah.
00:39:41
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Yeah. Thinking to the rafters a little bit more. think Yeah. for monique
00:39:51
Speaker
yeah don't doubt i wonder i guy i feel it I don't know what I but i said but I feel like i i feel i maybe I'm nicer now. That was pretty good. Yeah, that was fun. A little on the horn rock side, but I'm i'm okay with that. It had a little bit of a ska feel to it. And her singing was like crushing it in that song. So fuck yeah.
00:40:09
Speaker
Yeah, i'm I'm trying to figure out what it is that I come for in Save Ferris. I think, like, I know nobody agrees. or like the the What are the three things you're looking for when you listen to a Save Ferris song, Rob? ha i The three things that I'm looking for the great horn section, Monique, singing to the rafters, okay and ah honestly, the drums. I actually do think like some the the smashy drums are are a lot of fun.
00:40:36
Speaker
You're real ting-tings about the, say, Ferris. I'm real ting-tings about a lot of things. Not drums. People not saying my name. Not drums. i don't know that reference. Definitely has that 2000s vibe. but ah Yeah, this is 99 for sure. It's of its time.
00:40:51
Speaker
For sure. In the same way that it means everything was very 97, to be fair. like it's yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this band is definitely, like, they are... ah Responding to the times Yes for sure then their music Definitely ah think so I got one more track from this Records called What You See Is What You Get
00:41:26
Speaker
like Oh yeah Pull on ska song This is all in the same album? Yeah. That fucking ride. A lot of variety,
00:41:39
Speaker
actually. This is fun. A little bitly energy. little bit, yeah. It's got bitly energy. We didn't have a lot of the words, language, proper language for these things at the time. That's right. Yeah, yeah. The vocabulary wasn't developed enough.
00:42:13
Speaker
It's a pretty classic ska song. Yeah, I was going to say, and it almost has kind of like a jump blues kind of vibe to it too. It's almost got like a Blues Brothers kind of thing going on. It's pretty fun.
00:42:26
Speaker
It's like a big band energy almost. Yeah. Yeah, those, um like, I guess I have to listen to the whole record again to see why I hated it so much. I think, like, any of it sounds like that first song, yeah, that's not my jam.
00:42:40
Speaker
But, like sound i like, I think the edgier songs and the skyier stuff would probably be in my my wheelhouse. like Unless those were really the only three listenable songs. I think I tried to, I don't know, I couldn't put myself in that thing, but I think I tried to play the songs that were most...
00:42:59
Speaker
emblematic of the record not necessarily the best ones you know what i mean right yeah but who knows 2021 Rob was his own guy i was gonna say somebody's bound to complain that you chose the wrong song or cut the song and stopped it before the good part yeah yeah all right 2000 to 2002 Christmas song released but not much outside of general band turnover well real exciting Rob yeah two thousand and three Brian and Bill leave band to form star pool with new vocalist Alan Mead from pre-release, no doubt and release pseudo live EP.
00:43:35
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Monique dissolves band after one last tour called for the fans. Oh, for the fans is the name of the tour. Okay. I get it. 2004 to 2006, Starpool Dissolves. 2007 to 2010, Starpool Returns releases two singles. 2010, they release Living in Transition. thats That's where it is. And yes.
00:43:53
Speaker
Okay, so here we go. When we crapped all over Starpool, we got in so much shit because apparently they're like... uh incredibly popular in the oc and people think brian mashburn is like a ah hero to them uh which is fair i mean we don't know that we don't live in the oc we try to defend ourselves by saying that but that wasn't a good enough reason ah yeah whatever all right it was probably like four people yeah it probably was it may have even been just been one one favorite and you know what i mean so many but it's probably one guy
00:44:25
Speaker
And it was probably like three people saying, great new episode. a Good job. Thanks for coming. And then one person's like, oh, you don't know what you're talking about. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, you know. yeah yeah I've been in that star pool. guys don't even fucking know how nice it is on a hot day. Yeah. You know? so what so let's see. Let's see if we still feel the same way. i only have the one song. It's called Part of It by Starpool.
00:44:49
Speaker
Starpool's a real situation having a Yeah. Oh wow, that's bad. You just turned it up.
00:45:00
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It's not my choice. Yeah, they were pretty loud at the beat.
00:45:16
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so far, okay.
00:45:19
Speaker
Yeah, that's what. Oh yeah, the singing. this is singing. Yes, that's what it is. Oh.
00:45:28
Speaker
The beat's not bad, though. No. The line. Yeah. Oh, wow. No, but listen to your... Yeah. Yikes. Yeah.
00:45:47
Speaker
Just butt rock vocals. Yeah, and music. Yeah, I don't think my opinion has changed from your guys' previous opinion.
00:46:00
Speaker
Okay, I get it though now. i get what they're doing. And now I can absolutely acknowledge that it's just not for me. Yeah, and you know what? I'm hearing maybe bit more incubus than I am, but rock. That's why I was saying who the stank. Yeah, and I'm not an incubus guy. That's not my thing, so that would definitely be why I'm not into it. I feel like I'm more open to this song now. You are much more incubus coded than I am.
00:46:31
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like you are. I still don't love it. Yeah, I think we probably shit on it pretty hard, but it's actually not the worst. I feel like maybe was a little too scotturist at the You made me listen to so much worse.
00:46:45
Speaker
You know what? And I think that's part of it too. So you think about like where I was at the time when I started doing this. Like the only ska I was listening to was the ones I really liked. I wasn't just listening to all it for no reason.
00:46:57
Speaker
And so I think as we went through this process of like the podcast, like we're exposed to way more. Yeah. And now we have more of a three dimensional viewpoint of the genre than we would have had at the time.
00:47:10
Speaker
Our musical sky horizons were very are widened now. What a treat. yeah I'm just going to say that every time you make a joke like that. I'm just going to say, what a treat.
00:47:21
Speaker
You're welcome. That doesn't actually work. So Starpool, I'm sure, you know what? Okay. If you like the ingredients, I think you would enjoy it. If I would be into that kind of music. If I was at a house party and there was a pool shaped like a star and this band was playing, I'd be drinking beer and playing fucking beer pong or whatever the fuck. I'd be enjoying it.
00:47:44
Speaker
You know what I mean? Like it's fine. Maybe not. It's a song meant to be played at at the background of a party. That's that's red solo cup music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's maybe not for me to put on in my car driving, but, like, if that was on at a party, maybe. College dudes at that time probably fucking loved this. Hell yeah.
00:47:59
Speaker
Oh, yeah ah yeah. That's college dude music. For sure. okay Okay, 2004 to 2013. Monique appears on various albums, including Lost Prophets. Ew. Uh-oh.
00:48:11
Speaker
Oh, big doodle. Probably regrets that. Yeah. That's like about the worst one. you Yeah. That's almost the worst one. That's basically the worst one. Wow.
00:48:24
Speaker
Oh, okay good Lord. um Yeah. That's pretty funny. um I don't know if we commented on it at the time. Did we know them? Maybe we skipped over it. We're being. Geez. I don't know. Maybe.
00:48:36
Speaker
don't remember. I'm not going to talk about it. If you're at home and you're like, what's the deal with lost profit? Honestly, I recommend don't. i you I recommend don't just think of yeah like the worst thing ever. and Yeah, because it is like it honestly is depressing. But like if you need to know, then like, I guess go feel free to go on a very dark rabbit hole. Yeah. yeah yeah Uh, and Goldfinger, obviously. So Monique and Feldy are like BFFs and she's appeared on tons of Goldfinger adjacent projects projects or Feldy related projects. Well, he produced Lost Profits, so that makes sense, right? They would have been all tied together. Ooh, Feldy. Um...
00:49:14
Speaker
I presume he didn't know at the time. i'm going to err on the side of caution. i' also to Also, I'm going to say they probably aren't the only band that he has oofs involved with, I want to say.
00:49:28
Speaker
He's got a big production list. There's got to be at least a couple cancelled people on there. It's numbers game. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Right. 2013. Here's a quote from Monique. I assume I read this whole thing.
00:49:40
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I had been living with physical pain in my spine for over 10 years. I've been touring with it and didn't know what it was, but it was progressively getting worse. In 2013, I got married and so I got good health insurance and decided to get it checked.
00:49:54
Speaker
I got this diagnosis that basically the bones in my neck were degenerating and it created irreversible spine damage. My days of being able to walk were numbered. I was losing mobility on the right side of my body. And for the surgery, they would have to go through the front of the neck.
00:50:08
Speaker
But the amount of damage was so great that they would have to move my esophagus to the side to get to it. I was told I would never be able to sing again. couple of doctors asked me, do you want to walk or do you want to sing?
00:50:19
Speaker
Luckily, a team of doctors got together at Cedars and went through the back of my neck and was really dangerous to do the surgery that way. lot of doctors didn't want to assume the liability of my potentially coming out of the surgery paralyzed or me coming out, not being able to sing.
00:50:32
Speaker
So these doctors worked a miracle. And I said to my dad, if I wake up, if I can still walk and still sing, then I will bring the band back. When I woke up, my dad's face was right there and I was like, shit, I got to bring the band back.
00:50:47
Speaker
Say Ferris reformed with only Monique and totally new band. All yup young up and comers subsequently sued by Brian Mashburn and Starpool, citing that they weren't informed, which Monique denies. Fans are split vastly with some defending and other misogynistic opinions, calling her a traitor and ah was ah a really bad word. I'm not going to say something not helped by Starpool.
00:51:09
Speaker
um so yeah so and i i know this because there was when we released the episode they thought we were like overly defensive of monique and people were like you don't understand she is a traitor to the scene i remember getting a bunch of that stuff shut up i stand by it whatever she went through like that's like they could have maybe been like whoa she almost died maybe her fucking like perspective is different 100% This seems like like fuck off real small potatoes. It seems like they have their own bands and their own shit going It sounds like they're fine and she's doing what she can like yeah after going through an insane traumatic thing.
00:51:45
Speaker
2015, Monique countersues and settles with band, earning old writing credits and able to operate as Save Ferris. 2016, Monique, strapped for cash due to the lawsuit, uses pledge to raise funds for new EP, an album which is successful, begins touring again with ska bands. 2017, The Checkered Past is released and Belly Up show recorded.
00:52:06
Speaker
Oh, that must be the the name of the venue. EP is optimistically received with people awaiting a full length to properly review the band's comeback produced by John Avila of Oingo Boingo and videos made for new sound that also had Neville Staples on of the specials.
00:52:20
Speaker
I have a different song, though. I have something called Anything that's from this EP. Let's listen to that.
00:52:30
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Real slow song.
00:52:44
Speaker
I mean, not fucking around as far as coming back ska. Yeah. You know? She meant business. Yeah. And you know what? Kind of cool that she didn't get Feldy produce it. Yeah, agree. Donna Vila makes great sounding ska records.
00:53:02
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Yeah. no
00:53:07
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So was she... This probably isn't in your notes. Was she kind of the main songwriter of these... These songs? Okay. Yes. Now she's listening to songwriting.
00:53:21
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This is good. Yeah. I remember that it's even good. Yeah, this is better than any of the three songs off of Modified, in my opinion, that we listened to.
00:53:32
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Yeah. I remember the Modified like album cover was really like hot topic-y, too. Yeah, it was. Yeah, they didn't. no No red hair. No funny hats.
00:53:43
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All the things that you want to see out of it. Okay, 2013 to 2020, Starpool is mostly an OC staple. Puts on a throwdown style ska luau every year to highlight the new bands. ah They break up shortly after that.
00:53:57
Speaker
By throwdown style, you mean hometown through hometown throwdown style. Not the hardcore band throwdown. yeah yeah That would be funny, though.
00:54:08
Speaker
A throwdown luau? The band throwdown throws a luau and you have to do like a wall of death at the pig? yeah um i will be I'm away of far as far away from that as possible.
00:54:19
Speaker
they they they do a real good cover of ah ah MC Hammer, though. pickering i'll picture it pickering pickling pickling I'm all the people that would be at there. Hardcore shows are a real bummer for a lady.
00:54:36
Speaker
yeah unless you're all also a buff lady. Otherwise, it is scary place Unless it's like a scowl show or something. then it's like mostly Scared on the outskirts of some fucking guy can be fair out there and blames it on you.
00:54:48
Speaker
When we saw Chat Pile, it was like the the hipsteriest place and there was a lot of ladies there. Yeah. That's fun. and there is there is a small growing contingent of hardcore bands with ladies in them and the ladies in hardcore are...
00:55:03
Speaker
They are growing. It's happening. I'm thinking at this time. Oh, at this time there would have been zero. there would have been Well, this would have been beat down hardcore. This would have been the worst kind. Yeah.
00:55:14
Speaker
Not if you ask hardcore people. They say it's the best kind. Yeah. No ladies at hate breed shows. Yeah. Yes. ah 2020, they release a cover of Santeria and a live record, and the full length is still pending. Full length is still pending.
00:55:32
Speaker
ah So let's listen to that Santeria cover, and then I got a couple more tracks after that. like Yeah.
00:55:40
Speaker
Santeria by Sublime. I guess I don't have to say, but in case you don't know. In case you don't know. In case you don't know. Betty didn't know.
00:55:50
Speaker
Oh, it's just full acoustic. Yeah. This is nice if I was at a coffee shop or something. She changed the lyric to I had a million dollars but I spent it all. that's good.
00:56:06
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Yeah.
00:56:18
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mean, I just don't like the original. And then taking out any electric instruments just makes it even more snoozy. Yeah, to be honest, ah a Sublime song without any drums is just kind of bleh. You know?
00:56:31
Speaker
Yeah. mean, she's good when she does. Yeah, her voice sounds great. Yeah, she sounds great. don't know, man. Monique is the realist. She sounds great. She's like one of the lady vocals sometimes.
00:56:42
Speaker
Yeah, lady like one of the best lady vocals sometimes. Yeah, like I think for that song, it's just like... if they added full band and did it like that, then it would just be like a note for note cover with her singing it.
00:56:55
Speaker
Yeah. but when you make it acoustic, it just kind of, it gets a little boring because it's like sublime songs are practically nothing as it is without a rhythm section. There's not much there.
00:57:07
Speaker
And so that's the end of my notes. ah What, so, but what happened since then, say Ferris release two more singles, a Christmas song. I'm not playing Christmas songs.
00:57:18
Speaker
ah And something called ah Live from the Reptile House. This was a single that came out last year. ah so let's listen to that. Lights out in the reptile house?
00:57:29
Speaker
Lights out, sorry. Lights out in the reptile house. Got it. Scary.
00:57:36
Speaker
Kind of sounds like the time scushing. Spooky. I'm just going to say, I think someone's going to like this one. I think you're going to like it. I don't like reptiles. Definitely not when the lights are out.
00:57:49
Speaker
Spooky... Spooky chord progression.
00:58:03
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This is Billy energy. Oh yeah, for sure. Strong Billy energy.
00:58:09
Speaker
Monique has Billy energy. Yeah, even her look is a little Billy, no? Oh yeah. She just looks rockabilly. She's a Brian Setzer head. She loves the Brian Setzer for sure. This is pretty fun. I like smoking, drinking, smoking, drinking, smoking, drinking.
00:58:23
Speaker
It's pretty good. Yeah, it's real good. It's really, really repetitive in the lyrics,
00:58:32
Speaker
but I like it.
00:58:39
Speaker
it's really really repetitive in the lyrics but i like it
00:58:44
Speaker
Honestly, if this is a sign, if this is a sign of what a full length we're going to get from Save Ferris is going to sound like, man, I'm in. That'll be a good song. That was a really good song. Hell yeah. It was really good. Yeah.
00:58:55
Speaker
It's probably one of the best they've sounded in a long time. Honestly. Yeah. Maybe one of my favorites we've listened to today. And they've been doing ah like festival shows and stuff like pretty regularly over the last handful of years. Correct? Yeah.
00:59:08
Speaker
And they're doing potentially tours. And so I think we're on the verge of getting some new safe Ferris in our life and it might be really good. So I'm pretty stoked. Oh yeah. The other ah band that we haven't talked about yet and we did not talk about at the time because it would have been brand new ah is bite me Bambi, which is star pool with a lady singer basically.
00:59:30
Speaker
A lot of the old Save Ferris. They utilize lady vocals sometimes is yeah that's the way to go. yeah yeah And they decided to make a like a definitively third wave sounding band like sound like old Save Ferris. And I think they accomplished that.
00:59:45
Speaker
We did a trombonist on them. We listened to a bunch of Bite Me Bambi songs way back in the day. ah That was also our Save Ferris apology episode. i remember that was the whole idea. um But Bite Me Bambi released an album this year.
00:59:57
Speaker
like Just a couple months ago. Right, yeah. And so I picked one of the big streaming songs off of that, which is an Offspring cover. So let's listen to that.
01:00:11
Speaker
is a good choice for a cover.
01:00:15
Speaker
It's really strange choice, but yeah, I'm glad they did it.
01:00:32
Speaker
Yeah, good choice. Like, it just, it works really well as a ska song.
01:00:40
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I
01:00:47
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like Bite Me Bambi. Yeah.
01:00:52
Speaker
They're very, like, this is going to sound reductive. They're really harmless. You know what i mean? Yeah. Like, yeah just a band that if if I was like, Bite Me Bambi's coming? Yeah, I'll go check them out. That sounds good. That sounds like I'll have a fun time, right?
01:01:06
Speaker
Yeah, totally.
01:01:13
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And they're just...
01:01:17
Speaker
A very good band. Like, yeah like you listen to any bite me Bambi track and like, it's very, very tight. And the songwriting is really strong. And they're just like a band that you like, like Joker's Republic.
01:01:30
Speaker
Like you just listen to them for like 30 seconds and you're like, holy shit, that's a good band. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Just like, ah like some of the best musicians making, Straight up third wave Scott punk. Yeah.
01:01:44
Speaker
yeah On it and but Voice is also really good. yeah Yeah. She's great. And she's pretty young. Like she's an actress. um And so they got like some new young talent to come into the band, which is a nice choice.
01:01:57
Speaker
I think overall they're very supportive of new, although they're not like social media people. Like you don't see them online talking about stuff. But when they tour or they play shows, they're trying to stick with like new ska bands or try to bring up new ska bands as well. So I think they're on the right side with that stuff. So it's good to see.
01:02:17
Speaker
Hell yeah, definitely. And that's it. That's save Ferris. well um We did it. Some other things that we used to do that we don't do anymore. I used to have an opening question.
01:02:29
Speaker
And my opening question at the time was, what is the mission statement for this podcast? and So lame. What's our mission statement? I don't know. is it now? We don't have one anymore. Fuck around. Talk about Ska sometimes. Like, what is our mission statement? It's all about the bits.
01:02:49
Speaker
Honestly, it is. It's all about it's like we're the silly alternative to mainstream ska podcasts. And you can learn some stuff. yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah. I feel like ah listening to a checkered pot pat checkered past episode is not a complete waste of time.
01:03:05
Speaker
You know what I mean? that's a good it's ah It's definitely a use of your time. Yeah, you might work. Is it a waste? You could drive. I wouldn't do nothing and listen to it. I would multitask for sure. Yeah, at least smoke some weed or something. Clean something.
01:03:21
Speaker
You don't have to turn the lights down and like lay on the couch and listen it with in 3D speakers or something. This is something to have in the background. I mean, if you want to. You just giggle a little bit. of Good one.
01:03:32
Speaker
yeah that Yeah, that's all we can ask for. I had some concluding thoughts. I had what is the band's cultural significance? Would we listen to them again? Wow. And then who would we recommend them for?
01:03:46
Speaker
Those are my concluding thoughts. That's something. Those are my concluding thoughts. those are Those are philosophical. Yeah. but was that Was that what I was doing? Was i was like, hmm, what's the And so conclusive. Would you listen to this again? academic.
01:04:06
Speaker
Gee, I wonder why people thought we were a little harsh. ah last i I'd listen to it again, sure. yeah Maybe like to it again. Roughly. two hundred weeks from now i would listen to it yeah roughly um Then we have ska sucks.
01:04:25
Speaker
We did, which is where we would listen to bad reviews or I'd read off bad reviews. I don't even have it anymore. That was, that was a fun segment. Yeah, that was fun. At the time we were trying to be self deprecating and still kind of fits the show. Actually, it's just an extra thing for me to go and look up. And I guess I got bored of doing it.
01:04:42
Speaker
Yeah. um And sometimes it's really hard, especially the more obscure bands that we get, the harder it is to find commentary on them at all. Right. Right. So it only really works when the band is really famous.
01:04:54
Speaker
Yeah. You guys couldn't find anything on Hoobstank, hey? No. No, i'm not a one. yeah Glowing reviews. Yeah. And then i the last ah ah segment was Joey asks a question.
01:05:09
Speaker
Whoa, you can't shut him up now. I wish I knew what my question was. You wrote it on a post-it note and you handed it to me while we were there. Wait a second.
01:05:22
Speaker
I'm finishing my Tetris round. i guess I can come over and give you a post-it note.
01:05:30
Speaker
Wow crazy hate and I don't know if we did it on this one or if we started it next but we would give tone ratings to the album one to two tones which is really funny actually that is still pretty funny I give this 1.3 quarter tone 1.5 tone yeah this whole everything I listened to today 1.5 tones That is probably higher than what we gave it at the time. yeah yeah What's your question?
01:05:53
Speaker
Justify your new co-host. Big Mac meal or McNugget meal? McNugget. Whoa. There you go. I don't like nuggets, man. three, like two, one. Nugget meal.
01:06:03
Speaker
yeah Robert, you're out. i know Sorry. know Progresses to the next round. Who are we, the Doughboys? Literally just did a Doughboys thing. yeah I don't know, man. That's it. That's the shot for shot remake of say Ferris. That's episode one.
01:06:20
Speaker
That was a, that was an interesting trip down memory lane for me. I don't know about you guys. What do you think? Yeah. That was, that was real fun. and Yeah. I feel like, um, in general, we generally enjoyed the music. I'm definitely putting it on. les I was, always said that for me and Rob's first episode was two, two strangers. We've never met before. Talk to each other.
01:06:42
Speaker
yeah we didn't act like The microphone comfort level is very different now. Yeah, yeah we yeah we we understand how to make a podcast now. like Yes.
01:06:53
Speaker
The skills. So, you know, listener, now you've got options. You've got like the OG version, like the black and white version, and then you've got the color remake. It'd be funny to cut a part of the old one add it in on the end.
01:07:06
Speaker
That would be funny. Us being really awkward. It's a lot of work, yeah. I'll see. Cutman's editing. We'll see if he's got the time. cut Yeah, and energy and chutzpah.
01:07:18
Speaker
Well, I just did crush a monster energy. Yeah, you got that monster. You have so much energy. You're going to get all hyped up on Pimble. I'm so excited. You're going to get all hyped up on Pimble.
01:07:30
Speaker
Here's the call to action. Thanks for listening to Checkered Past. Hit us up on Instagram and Twitter at dot dot dot because we didn't have the accounts at the time. Ask a question for the show. comment Suggest bands and bring us ska puns to openly groan at on the show. That was the entire call to action at the time.
01:07:45
Speaker
oh Wow. wow That's cool. And then I put next time on the show we're going to check out dot dot dot. TBD. It was before you were even using TBD. Yeah, before that. I didn't even know we were going to do what was next? Planet Smashers?
01:07:58
Speaker
Was that what was coming next? Maybe. so planets yeah because it was ah okay so I think this is the order. I'm just going off the top of my dome. Sayfaris, Planet Smashers 1, Planet Smashers 2, Johnny Sacco, Five Iron 1, Five Iron 2...
01:08:12
Speaker
have six. Oh, fuck, a missing one. Something, then Skankin' Pickle. I don't remember what seven was. That's the only one that's missing. oh That's crazy that it was that many before Skankin' Pitbull. I can't believe Johnny Sarko was so early. Skankin' Pitbull. Skankin' Pitbull?
01:08:26
Speaker
Yeah. Mr. Worldwide just fucking doing the monkey. ah Hopefully. he's Maybe likes Scott. We could probably get him on the up.
01:08:37
Speaker
On the up, it's called Skankin' Pitbull. That would be amazing. um before rob but Before you get into our actual ending part with all the ah everything, um we we have an actual call to action for Checkerheads.
01:08:55
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Go and do it because Because this originally, we had a different concept for this episode originally because it is our 200th episode. But we also have an anniversary episode coming up in a few weeks.
01:09:08
Speaker
And originally we were going to have roasts on this episode, but we've decided to move that to our... four-year anniversary episode, which is happening a few weeks. So you have time to send in a roast.
01:09:23
Speaker
So if you would like to, send in a roast to checkeredpasssubmissions at gmail.com. Up to three minutes, we're calling it, although that's kind of long.
01:09:33
Speaker
ah But just roast the shit out of us. Roast ska. Make fun of stuff that that we do and that we just just roast it up. It'll be fun. It'll be a good time.
01:09:45
Speaker
Send it in. It'll be in the show notes as well. I'm pointing down like below me a show notes. but Yeah. yeah You're like a YouTuber. Yeah. And up there. Smash the subscribe button. Actually. Yeah. You know what? Smash that subscribe button. Please. Yeah. I like it.
01:09:58
Speaker
Get a cookie. Is that what people do? That's what Mr. B says. Oh, subscribing. you get a cookie or something.

Final Remarks and Credits

01:10:04
Speaker
I don't like that. And then he smiles like this. With no joy in his life.
01:10:08
Speaker
No joy. I've never seen somebody smile like a robot so much. And I'm a guy who smiles like a robot. so Jimmy. Jimmy. That's his name. Don't like it.
01:10:19
Speaker
Not a fan. Thanks for listening to Checkered Past. Hit us up on Instagram, Twitter, Blue Sky, YouTube, and TikTok at Checkered Past Pod. Send us an email at Checkered Past Pod at gmail.com. To support the pod and get bonus content, including a full-length and unedited video of this episode, sign up for the Checkered Patreon at patreon.com slash checkeredpast.
01:10:35
Speaker
We also have merch available at checkeredpast.ca. This episode is engineered by Joey. Nope. Oh, yep. Engineered by Joey? Engineered. Sorry, my bad.
01:10:46
Speaker
Why no? I don't know. I thought he said edited by. No, engineered It's edited by Cutman. There we go. Special thanks to Chris Reyes, Megamichi, and Adam the Ska Mailman for making this podcast happen.
01:10:59
Speaker
Thanks also to Keelan for all his work on the podcast ah episodes, and this theme song for this episode is OAO by Edmonton's own Mad Bomber Society. Next week is Trombonus.
01:11:11
Speaker
TBD. I don't know which one we'll do, but it'll be fun, I'm sure. And until next time, I'm Rob. You still haven't added the thank me in there. Thank me? Thank you to Céline for co-hosting with the most hosting. Yeah. yeah And who are you?
01:11:26
Speaker
He said it. Okay. No, I didn't. I'm Joey. And until next time, I'm Rob. so ah joey and in immortal words of real big fish don't stop skanking that's what i did
01:11:47
Speaker
sitting down and like listening to something critically is so much different than just like going to a ska show it's like so hard to have a bad time at a ska show It, ah yeah, and I think that that, what you hear is that they were like a a really tight live band. Yeah. Especially in the 90s, like they just kind of had like a good click right away.