Journalist. Contrarian. Iconoclast. Intellectual. Provocateur... And one of the most successful novelists of the 21st century.

Lionel Shriver has, in her own words, spent a career courting self-destruction. But she's still standing. 

In this no-holds barred conversation with Will, Lionel gives her inimitable take on identity politics, the trans debate, and the manias that continue to afflict society in 2024.

Note: Lionel's dog makes a cameo in the second half of the episode. Apologies on his behalf.

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