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Building Stronger Relationships to Improve Your Performance

S3 E7 · The B2B Mix Show
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Do you struggle creating meaningful connections with fellow leaders? You’re not alone. Many executives find it difficult to make real connections in todays business world. Many turn to online groups to try and forge connections and seek advice; however, many groups fall short of creating an atmosphere that promotes building meaningful relationships. But there are groups out there that have mastered the art of groups. CORE Connect is one of those groups. Meagan DeMenna is the Chief Growth Officer at CORE Connect and she shares her thoughts on how to build stronger relationships to improve your performance.

In this episode, Meagan shares:

  • What CORE Connect is.
  • What were the issues or gaps that led them to create CORE Connect.
  • Why sales and marketing executives are hesitant to be vulnerable in groups.
  • Figuring out what type of group is right for you and when you’re ready to join a more in depth group like CORE Connect.
  • What benefits can someone experience from joining a group.
  • How the lack of “real life’ connections between professionals led us to the point where we have to be more intentional about joining groups like CORE Connect.
  • What you get with the CORE Connect membership.

About Meagan DeMenna

Meagan DeMenna is the Partner and Chief Growth Officer at CORE Connect, a private network for executives to forge meaningful relationships with fellow leaders who want to maximize their quality of life while keeping their careers interesting. She lives in Phoenix, Arizona with her husband and two sons.

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Introduction to B2B Mix Show

00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome to the B2B Mix Show with Elena and Stacey. Each week, we'll bring you ideas that you can implement in your own marketing strategy. We'll share what we know and advice from industry experts who will join us from time to time here on the show. Are you ready to mix it up? Let's get started.

Saturation of Online Professional Groups

00:00:19
Speaker
Hi, and welcome back to another episode of the B2B Mix Show. Today we're talking groups. We're talking online groups, talking professional networking groups, which I'm going to guess you're at least a part of one, two, maybe 20 LinkedIn groups, Facebook groups, all different kinds of groups online. And you're probably not developing those meaningful relationships in those groups though, right?
00:00:42
Speaker
because a lot of them are just saturated. They've got so many people in them. Everybody's just wanting to talk about themselves and it's not a way for you to really develop those professional relationships where you're getting advice, you're getting leadership, you're getting all different kinds of things that help you grow professionally as well.

Introduction to Core Connect

00:01:01
Speaker
So today we're talking to Megan Domena from
00:01:04
Speaker
Core Connect, and she is the partner and chief growth officer there. And Core Connect is a private network for executives to forge meaningful relationships with fellow leaders who want to maximize their quality of life while keeping their careers interesting. She lives in Phoenix, Arizona with her husband and two sons. Welcome to the B2B mix show, Megan. All right, well, Megan, thank you so much for joining us on the B2B mix show. We're excited to have you on.
00:01:31
Speaker
Before we gonna get digging into the topic at hand, maybe you can tell us a little bit about, you know, a little background about Core Connect and what it is.

Core Connect's Unique Framework

00:01:41
Speaker
Absolutely. Yeah, I'm excited to be here. So thank you for having me. And so yeah, what is Core Connect?
00:01:49
Speaker
It is an invite-only network for executives looking to maximize the quality of their life while keeping their career interesting and staying relevant in their field. That's the boilerplate. Well, who doesn't want to make the best of their life, maximize the quality of their life? Right. I mean, we're not over promising at all.
00:02:16
Speaker
So that kind of leads into what I was going to ask you about what are the issues or gaps you saw that led you to start CORE, that obviously quality of life issues, work-life balance, what specifically led to the creation of this concept.

Creating Meaningful Connections through Core Connect

00:02:30
Speaker
Yes. So to dive into deeper about what really Core Connect is, well, Jacob Warwick, my business partner and I, we've known each other for well over a decade. And he has been
00:02:46
Speaker
a career coach, executive coach for a really long time. And Stacy, you know, he and I worked together for just about as long. And I've been building networks and communities and leading marketing teams. And he and I always had talked about building something like this. And really, we were sitting down one day and we realized that there's only a handful of people who stick out in our minds in a positive way as being like,
00:03:15
Speaker
having an it factor and like we wanted to really kind of hone in on like what that it factor is and so we developed a framework called the core framework and what that is is there's clarity opportunity realization and empowerment and so
00:03:32
Speaker
We have these ideas and these topics and these homework assignments that we've built around a network and why we thought that it was important in a community setting is because LinkedIn exists and there's so many communities out there now and they're all niche and they all offer something specific.
00:03:55
Speaker
But ours is built around your

Personalized Professional Networking

00:04:00
Speaker
near and long-term goals and it's not exclusive to just marketers. It's not exclusive to just operations. We try to include anybody and everyone and we match you specifically based on your challenges. So if you need help with
00:04:15
Speaker
pricing or with hiring a CMO or being on a board, you know, we can find those people in the network and match you with them. And it's not just about what you're getting out of the community. It's what you can bring to the community as well. So instead of throwing you into just a Slack group or a
00:04:35
Speaker
an online social component of some sort and just saying, good luck, find your people. We're asking you, who do you think your people are and how can we help you facilitate those connections?
00:04:48
Speaker
I like that idea that it's like kind of curating the audience that you need to be connected with is kind of how I see what you described. Right. And that is so hard, like you said, with LinkedIn and just getting bombarded with connection requests. I really like that idea because it's kind of hard to make those authentic connections and I don't have to do the work.
00:05:09
Speaker
You're doing it for me. But now you did mention one thing that made me think work. Homework.

Growth through Personal Practices

00:05:16
Speaker
What does that mean? So I mean, it's light homework and truly it's the kind of homework where if you don't do it, it's fine. It's more so to benefit you and get the most out of the experience. Yeah. So again, it's just like with anything in any community or network,
00:05:34
Speaker
you're really going to get out of it what you bring in and what you're willing to do. So as an example of homework, it's meditation for 10 minutes a day for 30 days straight. That's one thing. And so yeah, if you don't do it, okay, sure. But if you do it, I promise you, you're going to realize something along the way. Right.
00:05:57
Speaker
Now, one of the things that we talked, we were talking some of these are for like sales and marketing, right? Executive level people. So in those industries, it's very competitive. So they might be less likely in different networking events or different when they're building relationships on some platforms where they are very, you know,
00:06:22
Speaker
they're a little hesitant to engage in being vulnerable. Do you see that as something as an issue that things like this may reveal those vulnerabilities a little bit easier?

Vulnerability in Leadership

00:06:37
Speaker
Yeah, it is extremely challenging to get executives. I mean, anyone really to be vulnerable, but particularly executives in the corporate world, it's seen as a weakness. And that's just so backwards because it's sad. Yeah, you know, no one person knows everything, you know, and to put that much pressure on yourself is like,
00:07:02
Speaker
I mean, we should love ourselves more than that, you know? And to the point of connecting authentically, really what Jacob and I have built intentionally is to break down those walls and to get people to be vulnerable with one another because that's where the magic happens and that's where you do create
00:07:22
Speaker
those authentic connections. If you have a wall up and you're guarded and you're always holding something back, you're not just holding honestly the rest of the network back, you're holding yourself back because you're not being honest with what you need and what your challenges are. And if we don't know that, we can't help you.
00:07:41
Speaker
And then you're also not going to make those authentic connections. And that's just going to hold the rest of the community back as well. So yeah, I mean, this is for revenue leaders, sales, marketing, where traditionally it's notorious for not being vulnerable up at the top. And it's also for operations and product. So it really is for smattering of the entire organization. And yeah, you hit that certain level
00:08:07
Speaker
whatever your role is, and you can no longer ask your boss if you're on the right track or if you have the right strategy. And that is a really lonely place to be, and we are trying to facilitate those conversations so that people are comfortable saying, you know

Cultural Perspectives on Professional Vulnerability

00:08:25
Speaker
what? I don't know how to restructure pricing, you know? Who hears this?
00:08:30
Speaker
And that's what we hope to get. It seems backwards that you can't even talk to your boss or even maybe your colleagues that are other executives because of the
00:08:45
Speaker
I don't want to say backlash, but the perception that they're going to see a view then or that maybe that you just think they're going to see a view. And it's unfortunate because then you're not growing as a leader because you're not allowing yourself to be vulnerable and get the help that you need or the maybe just some ideas or suggestions that you need because you're too much in your own head. Probably a lot of the times it is just in our own head.
00:09:13
Speaker
Yeah. Well, and even the organization, it's stifling your career and the organization. And so nobody's achieving the goals that they need. And again, no one has the answer to everything and it's okay not to know. And as leaders, we need to understand where our faults are and where we could hire and fill those gaps, right? But there's some things
00:09:35
Speaker
like revenue projections and marketing specifically, right? Like if you're at a certain level and you don't know how to project out revenue targets and things like that, you need to learn. And you can't ask your CMO or board to do that for you. You should probably know that if you're in that.
00:09:51
Speaker
Exactly. But unfortunately too, at least what I've experienced is a lot of people hold that really close to the vest because they don't want to lose their job or they don't want someone else to come. It's just the old saying of, what is it? The rising tide lifts all boats. We really should help each other because it's just going to make, I sound like such a hippie, but it's going to make everybody's lives easier.
00:10:19
Speaker
Do you think this is a uniquely American problem? I mean, working with some people from Europe or Canada even, they seem a little more laid back and helpful to one another. It might just be the people I know from those companies, but what do you think, Megan?
00:10:36
Speaker
Well, I don't think it's, I mean, I think it's more prevalent in America for sure, because I think we put so much value in our careers and we identify with our career over our lives more, which is another problem that we try to tackle in core. But I've seen it, you know, and granted, I've worked at organizations based in Hong Kong, which I think China also has a very similar work ethic. Truth.
00:11:02
Speaker
uh but and you're right there's definitely you know canadians are a good example where i don't think that they're as um
00:11:10
Speaker
hard on themselves or holding things too close. I'm not going to throw anybody in, but there's a couple of Canadians that I've spoken to about this topic and they are all on board because it's a lonely and isolating place to be at the top, regardless of who you are. True. We talked a little bit about LinkedIn and all these groups out there.
00:11:41
Speaker
Yeah, like you mentioned, LinkedIn is a good place to network, but it has its limitations when you're trying to get to this level of work on yourself and not just your professional side, but even your personal life. So when do you know what would be a good sign to yourself that, hey, I need a group like Core Connect or I need to build some kind of group of confidants in my real life offline?

When LinkedIn Isn't Enough

00:12:04
Speaker
Yeah, I would say if LinkedIn is working for you, great. Then you don't need a group. But if it's not, and I would wager that it's not working for most people, then it doesn't have to be core. It doesn't have to be a specific one thing is your answer. And actually, a lot of people in our network are part of other networks as well.
00:12:30
Speaker
You you need you're the only person who can help yourself and if you are flooded on LinkedIn with spam and Un or inauthentic requests that go nowhere and truly lots of stuff happen. Yeah, right. Yeah And it's more of a hassle to check then than anything else then then yeah I mean, I think that's a pretty big sign right there. You're not getting
00:12:57
Speaker
But then you should also ask what you're giving on LinkedIn if you're not getting on LinkedIn. Because that's really what it is on, again, any network, any community. I think you are likely to find your people if you allow yourself to be vulnerable, which is why I believe something like Core, where it does ask those hard questions and make you look and reevaluate certain things, that's going to help you along a little bit faster.
00:13:25
Speaker
we believe gets you to the finish line a little bit quicker. But if LinkedIn is working for you, then it's working for you, and that's great. You mentioned finding your place and being able to be vulnerable. One of the things that I've heard a lot of people say about using LinkedIn for their networking and things like that, they're afraid to post things because
00:13:50
Speaker
of all the people that will just want to be combative or argumentative and just, they may agree completely with what you say, but they just want to start something. And so people are afraid to be vulnerable and open up on things like LinkedIn, whereas like a more private group where it's vetted would make more sense for those, especially for those people that feel kind of hesitant to do that.

Challenges of LinkedIn's Public Nature

00:14:18
Speaker
Yeah, and LinkedIn is crazy. I can't stand it at the time now. Stacey, where are you going to say something? Just those and the level of people that would be in Core Connect have a reputation at stake too. They can't risk.
00:14:35
Speaker
Having trolls come and make them look stupid. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's a great point and actually something we have heard from these executives and and to that point, you know, if you're afraid to be authentic and truthfully rightfully so because of that
00:14:53
Speaker
Because of the anonymity that LinkedIn kind of does give, you've got a face, but is that face real? Is that a real person? Is it a troll even? Who knows? But yeah, if you look at Jacob, Jacob releases a blog post once a week, I think every Thursday. And
00:15:16
Speaker
you'll see that there's a lot of unpopular things that he says, and he gets blasted, and I also get blasted for it. But we're also kind of weeding people out. Do you just have to say, like, if this isn't for you, then it's not for you, and that's fine. And if you want to be an a-hole, then that's your prerogative, and that's your life that you've chosen, and I feel sorry for you, and that's fine. Lots of people choose that these days. Yeah.
00:15:44
Speaker
You know, misery loves company, you know? Yeah. But yeah, with core, we do, if you're not being authentic, I mean, it's pretty easy to figure out pretty quick. And we do have guidelines in place, not to say that you have to tell us about childhood trauma. Right. But yeah, just being open and accepting, and you might not agree, but coming at it in a loving place, and is it necessary to say?
00:16:10
Speaker
great, if it's not necessary, and you're just being combative to be combative, then like, it just feels like a struggle for relevance at that point. And that just is so unnecessary. You know, there was something that Elena brought to my attention today, and I won't name the guy, I can't even remember his name anyway. But apparently, there were layoffs at his company, and he posted a picture of himself crying on LinkedIn. And
00:16:37
Speaker
A lot of people dragged him really hard. I feel like he probably did feel bad about what happened, but it almost felt like a little bit of clout chasing, so it may have been something totally relevant and authentic, he was trying to say.
00:16:52
Speaker
But it went. So if he had just posted it without the picture of him crying, I think it would have been fine. But the fact that he did that, he could probably benefit from this group to learn how to make announcements when you make layoffs and stuff like that.
00:17:12
Speaker
Some things that people said was that he was just trying to make people feel sorry for him instead of his employees. So I bring that up, I guess a little off topic, but I could see where maybe he just felt like he didn't have an outlet for a sounding board. So I could see where
00:17:33
Speaker
LinkedIn is kind of, either he was cloud chasing or he didn't have people to try and really bounce and use it as a sounding board. So I could see why something like this could be benefiting people in those really hard circumstances. Because I can imagine I would cry if I had to lay off people. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, it's honesty that you're even putting it out there that you're crying.
00:18:02
Speaker
But like you said, is it cloud chasing? And was it the best way to kind of...
00:18:08
Speaker
talk about it online. I don't know. It's, I mean, and like Megan said, it's lonely at the top. If it was a startup, it might've been a startup company that's been around for a couple of years. And he may not have any other executives at his company. It could just be him and then leading his people. So there's a lot of different things at play that we don't know, but still it was just like, it was, he was getting reamed on social.
00:18:34
Speaker
So I could see why if you have something really serious to talk about and you need a sounding board. The group would be a good place. The group would be much better. Yeah.
00:18:48
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I don't know the situation. I don't know the guy. And I can say from my experience that, again, like we're saying, it's lonely at the top. And for a lot of executives, CMOs, founders, this is their baby. And they get villainized.
00:19:07
Speaker
a lot because oh they're doing this wrong and no they're doing that wrong and oh they're just laying people off so they can keep their salary or whatever but so much goes into those decisions that I'm sure it was his way of saying like no I do care about these people you know and like I'd like to think that right um but but truly to your point if you do care about those people okay well here's a list of the people I just let go here's their titles here's references and here you know and that gives them a boost
00:19:37
Speaker
Yes, it's not about you. But when you're, this is your baby, and they're so close to it, and you don't have a network or a sounding board, then it's easy to slip into. Yeah, I mean, it's easy to slip into it regardless. But yeah, right. Yeah, your idea was much better. Maybe I'll put that out on social for
00:20:00
Speaker
Maybe DMM so it doesn't look like you're dragging him. I wouldn't really do that out in front of everybody because then everybody would go crazy on it. I really did feel that. Social is ruthless. It is scary. It is. It's not nice.
00:20:19
Speaker
What are some of the other benefits? I know we've talked about a lot of benefits. Are there any other benefits that you can talk about when you're expanding your network and building those relationships when it comes to joining a group?
00:20:35
Speaker
I think that, again, you can try a lot of different groups and not find the right people. And I'd say that even with core in mind. If you join something, don't just stick with it for the time suck. Like, oh, I've invested so much time in this or money in this.

Building Authentic Relationships Online

00:20:54
Speaker
It's kind of like choosing, this is ridiculous, but like a doctor or something, it's going to take a little bit. And it's also
00:21:03
Speaker
you're joining the group ultimately for you, right? To help you in some way, shape or form, whether it's your career or something else. But you're always gonna get what you put into it. And so if you join and you think, oh, even with core, if I join and I say, oh, I'm gonna have people personally matched to me and everything's gonna be just tailored to my needs and I'm gonna have to put very little effort into it, like,
00:21:31
Speaker
I mean, if you're on paper, yeah, that's true, but you're going to have to do a lot of questions or like digging and asking yourself questions because what we found in a lot of the product research that we've done is that people think they want X and they have no idea what they really want. And so like diving in and so the answer to, in addition to what are the things you're going to get out of the community is
00:21:57
Speaker
You get in or you get out what you put in, regardless of where you are. And then you'll have transactional things in every community. Every community will probably offer you some sort of resume updating or just more transactional things. But it's really in the transformational bits that you're going to find your people and you're going to find the value. And once you find that, there really isn't, I mean,
00:22:27
Speaker
the value, it's more than any amount of money that they're asking for, I guarantee it. I like that transformational versus just transactional. I think you said that or I imagined you did. I just had a glitchy moment there. Sorry, the matrix interrupted.
00:22:55
Speaker
As far as the group goes or any group, if you look way back before social media and the internet, it seems like, and maybe we just didn't hear about it because we didn't have social media to hear about people having these kinds of issues with building their community and their confidence.
00:23:12
Speaker
But it seemed like business executives would have more of a like, okay, here's this industry group of executive CEOs I can go meet with and do things with in person every year at the conference, or there's a local business owners group. I can go join and talk to other people in my position. Do you think that the whole internet era has kind of cut people off from building those real relationships?
00:23:38
Speaker
I know maybe your core connect group would still be online, but it's really more about building like those real life relationships that used to happen. At least this old lady thing used to be like that in the old days. No, it's true.
00:23:59
Speaker
I think, yes, it's really hard to develop authentic relationships because there's a lot of fear online. You are vulnerable online because it's so visible and things you said five years ago can pop right back up and you'll get blasted for it. So in that regard, it
00:24:24
Speaker
it creates this fear. And where there's fear, you can't be authentic and you can't make real connections. Or I shouldn't say can't. It's a lot harder to make those authentic connections because Stacey, we've known each other for a long time. We've never met in person, but I really feel connected with you. And I think I know things about you that are deeper than
00:24:48
Speaker
then the podcast and things that you're doing professionally but it's because we've taken the time to get to know each other and and develop that relationship so it's not impossible like on to online to develop it's just a lot harder and
00:25:05
Speaker
I do think with groups like Core Connect, it is a safer space and it's easier to find the people who aren't going to judge you or blast you or they're not there to troll you. They're not there to be better than you. There's no... I mean, it's a lot of type A personalities, so there is that, but it's not...
00:25:29
Speaker
It's not a, you're wrong because I'm right kind of mentality. So yeah, and I do think that another thing we've lost with the internet is serendipity. So if you're at a conference, you can just run into someone by accident and then magic happens.
00:25:49
Speaker
So we're trying to recreate that as much as possible through Core, and I know other networks are trying to do the same thing. It's a lot harder to recreate online for obvious reasons. And I do think that there is just another level of connection when it does have an in-person element to it, which Core is working towards, but we just launched.
00:26:15
Speaker
which leads me into my next. Oh, so I was just going to say circling back to that idea of your curating the people. I think that makes it a lot, even though it's still online.
00:26:26
Speaker
it's a lot safer and you know, it's going to be probably at least most likely people that will be there to make you better and not just say I'm better than you. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is not the term I want to use, but I'm going to use it. And Jacob can yell at me for late and later, but it's support group, you know, it really is. Um, yeah. And I, and I, the,
00:26:50
Speaker
The hope is that Jacob and I will start asking questions and start to foster those connections. Then it will just become natural for the network members to go out on their own and ask those questions of other people. We're not giving you everything. We're trying to teach you ways to be more authentic and vulnerable to create more meaningful business relationships.
00:27:20
Speaker
So what I was going to launch into when you said Core had just launched leads me into my question about what do you get with the membership and how can someone join or get on a waiting list or if you can share some of those things for anyone that's listening.

Joining Core Connect

00:27:36
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. So it is invite only. But we, you know, JB and I love the two of you. So if you do hit the landing page for Core Connect, there's a, in the application, there's a bit that says who referred you.
00:27:53
Speaker
If someone wants to put Stacy and Alana in that bar, then we will look at their application and review the application. I can give you guys the link to the page if that makes the process easier.
00:28:09
Speaker
So to get invited, you know, just by listening to this lucky people, you can just jump on and submit an application. But the parameters are executives director and above at a billion dollar company in revenue or VP and above at 10 million and above in revenue. And that just is any role really operations, product, revenue.
00:28:36
Speaker
So that's how you join. Also DM me because I love chatting with people. So that's a good way to get to know me or Jacob Orwick. And then what you get out of it is, I mean, I've said it a couple of times. It's really what you put into it, but the structure of the group to be more
00:28:58
Speaker
clear about it. There's three meetings a month and one is a networking meeting with the entire network, not just your cohort. There Jacob and I will put you into breakout groups and you have a chance to connect with anyone and everyone in the network.
00:29:16
Speaker
Then there's a meeting with your cohort, and that's about 12 people in each cohort, and we match you based on your near-term and your long-term goals. And a few other questions that we ask, like what value do you want to bring to the group?
00:29:30
Speaker
And the cohort meeting is around the core framework. So Jacob and I will lead something around core, clarity, opportunity, realization, and empowerment. And then once we really start getting established for the members who want to, they can start presenting on those topics. And we'll be bringing in guest speakers for that core framework.
00:29:53
Speaker
And then the third meeting, which I personally love, we ask you your near-term and long-term goals monthly. And we go through those surveys and we pull out themes and challenges that are similar across the cohort. And we bring those challenges anonymously to the group and work through them in a mastermind. And so we try to solve
00:30:16
Speaker
Real world challenges. Yeah. So that's sort of, you know, there's a lot of other things involved like access to content and quarterly reviews of your resume, if that's if your goal is to change jobs or, you know, whatever that looks like. So yeah, more transactional stuff. And then the transformational stuff is really the magic of networking and getting to know your group, your cohort.
00:30:40
Speaker
But do you also help these individuals like, I know you're helping them find other people to speak with, but do you do anything as far as helping them recruit for their own companies or is that part of this?

Recruitment Support via Core Connect

00:30:53
Speaker
Yeah, so that is in the power of the network. I'm looking for a CMO who really knows the financial space, fintech. I actually know of one right now who's looking. So just by osmosis, I feel like Jacob and I have a really good read on those people who could be a good fit. But even in your cohort, I'm looking for a social community manager. I'm sure one of eight people
00:31:22
Speaker
we'll have some sort of connection or lead into finding the right people. So yes, a little bit, but that's not the focus. So before I ask you our just for fun question, is there anything you want to leave listeners with?
00:31:38
Speaker
I think that it's important for everyone to find their community. I've always called myself a community-first marketer because a lot of times in marketing, people say, you got to find your audience. I disagree. You need to find your community because those people will go to the mat for you.
00:32:03
Speaker
You'll find so much information from those people. Not even in the marketing world, just removing the marketing hat. If you have a group of people who you can rely on, especially right now when just in general, the internet is really isolating and kind of cruel sometimes.
00:32:25
Speaker
good to find people that you can rely on. And it doesn't have to be core. It doesn't have to be LinkedIn. It doesn't have, I mean, it could be a ballet class. It really could be whatever that is, but just to find, find you. Yeah, exactly. It's going to provide more clarity for you and just organically get you in a happier place.
00:32:50
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. And with this economy the way it is, it's always good to have people that will go to the mat for you if anything, God forbid, should happen. Yeah. Yeah. And actually, something that, Jacob, and I like to say is even if you feel very secure in your job and you don't think there's a chance that you're going to get laid off,
00:33:10
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options are always amazing. It doesn't matter who you are, even if you own your own company, options are always amazing. And the more people you know and can rely on and lean on, the more options you're going to have. Definitely.
00:33:26
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If you weren't the co-founder and chief growth officer right now with what you're doing, then what would your dream job be?

Megan's Personal Aspirations

00:33:36
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So my dream job would be, it's kind of unfair because I do love what I'm doing, but I would be a yoga instructor and a potter.
00:33:46
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So there you go, very off the wall, very different. But that's why I am a certified yoga instructor. And on the weekends, I throw pottery. And that would be my happy place. Very cool. Yeah. And so we'll expect a piece of pottery to come. Yeah. Okay. No, I'll send it over.

Contact Information

00:34:09
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And Megan, if people would like to get in touch with you, what's the best way for them to do that?
00:34:14
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Yeah. Find me on LinkedIn. I think, uh, my handle is kind of silly. I think it's social Megan and it's spelled M-E-A-G-A-N. Um, but yeah, Megan Domena, that's how you can find me. LinkedIn is good. And, um, if you reach out think warwick, it's just Megan at thinkwarwick.com is my email as well.
00:34:36
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And we will include all of that in the show notes so that people can connect with you. So make sure that you go and connect with Megan because she's awesome and you will learn a lot from her and Jacob. So connect with them.
00:34:50
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