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Speaker: The Blue Yeti microphone Lance uses, versus the iPhone headphone mic Matt uses. Frequency Range Blue Yeti, wide. iPhone headphone mic, narrow.
Speaker: Capsule Size Blue Yeti, large. iPhone headphone mic, miniature. Sound Profile Blue Yeti, warm and thick.
Speaker: iPhone headphone mic, thin and flat. Lance. Wide, large, warm, and thick. Matt. Narrow, miniature, thin, and flat.
Speaker: Is anyone surprised by this? How's the cancer? It's gone, dude. I like, I just walk out of the room, couldn't get my Bob, she confirmed I have cancer and get my stitches out and I got a message. Let's talk about what we hate about ourselves in a half hour.
Speaker: That's great, dude. That's great. When it rains, it pours. hu It's out. It's confirmed. It was the basal cancer. At least that's what I understand the Spanish report to say.
Speaker: And, uh, now everyone's like trying to make me a pussy about sunblock and shit oh bet it's like okay so the cancer won so the cancer won huh so now i have to change my life because the cancer dude that's such bullshit so yeah i uh i was in there for like two seconds i didn't even see the doctor they're just like yeah it's fine come back and see her in a month them and we'll just make sure that nothing else popped up Ooh, some forthcoming fear, some anticipatory anxiety. Fuck, bro. They just let me go, yeah.
Speaker: It just keeps raining. Fuck. It's pretty good as far as my first experience with cancer. Wasn't too bad. i never had stitches in my life, by the way. It doesn't hurt at all when they take them out.
Speaker: That's weird. Yeah, why is that? I thought it'd be completely painful. I think because it does the healing, like, push the stitches up to almost the edge of the skin.
Speaker: That could be. Yeah, and then it's just like a snippy snip. And i' I wouldn't have known what the fuck she's talking about anyways. There's limits on my Spanish because, like...
Speaker: I don't even know if I know the words in English, you know, if someone's explaining why, where the stitches, where your skin heals and the different layers of skin and in English, I'd be like, uh-huh.
Speaker: Yeah. They start talking epidermis and you're like, yeah huh? I don't get you, Trim, is is what I would say.
Speaker: So that episode's done, dude, for now. And for now, until something else creeps up. What would you recommend, dude? What would you do in this situation? Because I don't feel like it's any different than what anyone our age should be doing, but like, would you, i don't know, what would you do? Would you stay inside more? Would you be more like, all right, I had one bout with cancer, I'm never going outside between the hours of 10 and 4.
Speaker: No, I just do a daily sunscreen and then I would cake it on ah we're doing ah surfing or whatever you do that's like direct hardcore sun. Do you do that already?
Speaker: Yeah, I do because my skin's, you know, my whole life in Colorado. Right. It's fucked up. Colorado's a fucked up place for the sun. Very, bro. I got this shit in the middle of my head now like it's like a freckle.
Speaker: But it looks it looks like I've got some ah skin condition. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, how many of these things need to pop up to make me look older?
Speaker: Are you goingnna you going to get that taken care of? I'm thinking about It's getting annoying enough to where it's like I'm going to go do some beauty treatment. But it's not pre-cancerous whatever they call it, you think? It's just a fucking... Makes it hard for someone to drill you, dude. Because they have to look at that...
Speaker: Yeah, because I want like 30-year-old trim to be like, i drill. and And with these types of blemishes, the probability is getting lowered. And so I want to fix it.
Speaker: It's funny that that's a thing with getting older is weird shit growing on your body. It's kind interesting. It's just sun damage. It's sun damage. It's freckles. i already had freckles growing up and it's like,
Speaker: It's just in a weird place that annoys me. you know Certain light, you can't really see it, but other light, it's like, damn. are you since you're Since you brought up, are you self-conscious about your hair or lack of it?
Speaker: Does it bother you at all? Not really, no. i mean the I wear a hat because I'm out on a bike all the time, but mostly the sweat. I sweat a lot. and It's like... It's just like sweat beads coming down a bald head and like dropping all over the shirt and stuff.
Speaker: You know, I had some hair to catch it, I'd be good. What do you think? This is probably like for a bald person, they're probably like, go fuck yourself. But what's worse, bald or gray? Because I'm not that excited about gray. Although every once a while get like, oh man, like the gray, the salt and pepper look is awesome.
Speaker: That's what's in. And I'm like, for who? It all depends on your face. Some guys look great bald. Some guys look good. I put myself in it.
Speaker: i'm I'm in a good category, I would say. Decent head? yeah Well, just it's just, a can you pull it off? Is your jaw strong enough? Are you one of those pudgy, horrible looking dudes? But then the gray hair as well. like The gray hair can make people look... Distinguished?
Speaker: No, yes, distinguished, but I was thinking of the other other thing. Just like like I'm worn down and shitty? Like Tales of the Crypt, just really old. So it's it's about the face, and the faces are unique. It all comes together, and sometimes it works.
Speaker: I see, yeah. I see sometimes I'll see myself from certain angles, and it is what you said. I'm like, what am am I 100 years old? What the fuck? But then from straight on, I'm like, ah, I ah i can pass for it.
Speaker: my age probably the worst i got freckles that are right at the it's because of the because of driving or i'm assuming extra sun but it's living in colorado right where if you didn't sleep well it would create a circle under your eye uh-huh like the high cheekbone like that gets sunken eyes area well but i have freckles right there that look like sometimes if i don't sleep it's just like people be like you got a black eye what happened Oh, yeah. I've had that like my whole life.
Speaker: It's sun damage. You fuck. Leave me alone. I got it. I got it through my bone structure, my allergies, like some allergies, some some... I'm just talking about the bags. And then like, yeah, like I didn't sleep that great last night. All nervous about this show. Yeah. You're nervous get the stitches out?
Speaker: No, actually, i I think I slept fine. Lately, I'll just wake up at like an hour before I want to. Yeah, getting old, bro. Sad. It's fine, but it's like, ah.
Speaker: But then I'm like, oh, that's probably that hour. i need that hour. You really do, Matt. You need that hour bad. I don't know. I feel like like it's not a big deal for most people.
Speaker: Like ah the whole world wakes up before six. No, dude. I think it's all bullshit. I think that, well, maybe there's some people. I don't know First off, that's one of the things that annoys me about how I talk on the podcast and I'll get to it.
Speaker: ah Anyway, but ah everybody needs sleep. I think some people can operate on less than the normal version, but the people that look like they can handle it, I don't i don't know that I buy it.
Speaker: What do you, do you have an idea what you need? Seven. Solid. think that's about fair. Because people that are like, know, wellness people, all you need is 14 hours of sleep. but that That seems kind of out of control.
Speaker: Yeah, seven, seven and a half. but Like eight to eight? Come on. I'm never sleeping straight through the night anymore, though. um I get up, got to take that piss. Yeah. drink Drink some water after. and Now I got to put on some fucking...
Speaker: Chapstick. i don't know. Just stupid. Check the doors. You're still checking the doors. That's before bed. ah But dumb things accumulate in the routine. Sometimes I sleep to the night, but it's not as it's not like when I was younger.
Speaker: I'm not getting back. I mean, I can't, if I get back to sleep, I'm like a zombie, but something like today. Yeah. Actually, I feel like I, I don't know for sure last night, but I feel like I slept through the night. It's more like, which is good, which is good. At least if I went, I went to bed at like 11, let's say.
Speaker: And then I woke up at five 50. I would have liked to be in bed till six 30 when I wake my kids up to go to school. Yeah. Ideally. Right. Right. But at five 50, what am I going to do?
Speaker: Well, I'm often sore and that wakes me up. And I'm always like, why are you always sore? So I'll pop ah ibuprofen sometimes in the middle of night if I'm feeling like, oh. Because you're fucking working out like you're 30.
Speaker: It's going to keep me up. Yeah, so it's a struggle, dude. But let's move on. to what have you listened all the episodes or most of them you listen to right i have yeah okay have you noticed anything that you do that you're just like would you shut the fuck up i'd notice i notice sometimes that it's hard to follow my train of thought Like, you're looking at me like, no shit.
Speaker: But, but like, I'll, I use, I don't know if it's pronouns, I'll, I'll refer to other shit without saying what the other shit is. So it was like, I want, yeah, I went there. or I don't know how to explain it, but, it but, uh, I was, I like like, for example, I listened the one we did last week, which I actually kind of liked, even though we had technical difficulties on my end. But, um,
Speaker: And I was talking about what I, like, ah when I, when I was going through my relation, my breakup and everything that I, like, I never thought of going off the deep end. But I said something like, yeah, I never considered anything like that.
Speaker: But I didn't, there was no reference. We hadn't, we hadn't set the table for that comment. I do that all the time. Cause in my head, I know what I'm referring to, but I, but nobody else does, I think. Yeah. I don't notice that that much. It's not like you're coming, you're tangential and you're coming out of nowhere.
Speaker: I think when you piece it all together, people get the gist. I mean, you might want to be more clear, or you know seek for more clarity in the way you speak, but you kind of start and stop like a comedian.
Speaker: I knew this was a trap. I knew you had a laundry list of problems I had. No, no, but it's like a car, a car that that shuts off at a light. And you you kind of just constantly start and stop and start and stop. You're just kind of a piece of shit car.
Speaker: The thing about podcasting is that it's, you can plan. I know you'd like to have a plan, but you're also having the conversation in real time. So you're like, oh, that just made me think of something. That happens all the time.
Speaker: But yeah, I don't like that. I don't like, I like, I use a lot of that I say that's interesting too much. I think, I will say though, i think if you, look if you painfully listened to, I don't know if you do this, but went back and listened to early episodes.
Speaker: I think we both gotten a lot better. I feel like I might interrupt you a little less now. listen you a little more. i still have issues with that, but like, I think we've probably gotten better.
Speaker: Oh yeah. Cause it's not just like having a conversation on the street. It is, but we, but it's also like, oh, there's two people that are trying to produce something here. So you gotta, you gotta get your point in whatever.
Speaker: Yeah, I think with you, ah the the starting, the stopping, the kind of truly like flowy type of conversational style, it's it's great because it'll lead to really funny stuff or ah oftentimes some really interesting comments.
Speaker: It also has its downsides too of like clarity. like Especially when I'm editing, I try to clean that shit up. Boy, you know I do. But like we don't get to some of the comments of like, let's go to a deeper shade of of skin color in terms of who we admire.
Speaker: And then we're calling out Manute Bull and Grace Jones. We don't get to that with Lance's sort of really thoughtful approach of answering the question and you know as as clear as he can we don't typically get to anything cool all i'll do which is obviously annoying is say something semi-thoughtful not like it and then destroy it with a comment about being trans or being a pussy or would you call that a good partnership though
Speaker: Like if I have a skill set that's not conducive to keeping the show on the rails and you do, but my, whatever I have might lead to some, I don't know, creative creativity or, or, uh, uh, or whatever. cause I know early on you were pretty adamant that you didn't want to just make this a comedic show.
Speaker: I think, I mean, you, you're encouraging humor, but that wasn't the point. Right. Well, I think we're the greatest tag team that's ever, ever, ever lived. I don't know if you know how dumb. What's funny is like I could completely make the show ridiculous and useless. like every Every sentence. ah I mean, we're talking about something really serious like our kids or are fucking people dying. i ah i' In my head, I'm like, here's a dumb thought. Bro, I am completely aware.
Speaker: Please. I know you could derail every single sentence I say. it's It's well known. Just to get like 30% success, right? Well, just to amuse yourself too.
Speaker: And then I have to fake laugh at about 40% of them. 60% is genuine. I mean, I do like catching you off guard and seeing like spontaneous laughter is great.
Speaker: Like, cause like it's one thing where you know, I'm getting going into a bed or something, but like when I do like that, maybe to a fault, but I don't know if you're representing the listeners or I am, ah Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker: I do get lot of feedback that people agree with you. So you're like more of your agenda. I think it resonates with people. I just don't have an agenda. What you mean agenda? Like you have you actually have a point. It might be your political stance. It might be your stance on modern society. Like you kind of take a stance where i i don't I'm pretty noncommittal. So it's more like, well wella well, here's something funny to say in the moment.
Speaker: where But i think that I think people probably like like that you do that. mean, I've never heard anyone, their feedback's never like, oh man, you're so funny on that show to me. Well, it feels like that's like a given if we're gonna talk about a subject that you might do some thinking about it beforehand.
Speaker: Or suggest a topic that you've done some thinking about. And that's why say you like to start, stop, free flow. And you get into it. You actually ask more questions of me now than I do of you. I think it used to be the opposite. but That's true. i like I like letting you go now as much as I can.
Speaker: You're guiding the conversation more now while you slip in some derailing comments here and there. But i don't I'm not as derailed by them as I might have been. i generally not that I'm not that happy with my like creativity. I never have been. Which just comes back to maybe a lot of people, singers, comedians, aren't that excited to listen to their own material, but it's pretty valuable, and I i hate that. So I'm not like that excited about anything I'm doing.
Speaker: ah Ever. Although, I will say, when I listen to the shows, I'm usually pretty happy, which is kind of funny. Like it's, it's like, I, I always, I'm, I always listen the show and go, that was pretty good. Every once a I'm like, ah you're just kind of rambling again.
Speaker: But I think with your editing and you and you being so serious about everything, like it keeps it,
Speaker: it keeps it, it keeps it tight. I don't know. I really have no idea how much you're, you're, you're tuning it up. I'm not tuning it up much. It's just taking out the interruptions mostly and then raising your volume because you do come to the studio with really piece of shit equipment.
Speaker: And yes, the phone sounds fine, but it's not optimal. I noticed it has some range in it. I don't know why. If that's just where my head is or what. like Even in this in the same episode, even if we didn't have any technical difficulties. Well, that's I'm not trying to pick on you, but that is a speaking style you have where you are really hot and then you mumble down. And that's, from an audio technical point of view, that's tough to deal with. A nightmare. Yeah.
Speaker: And I'll have to raise volume on one, which they tend to be the mumbling down piece is really the meat of what you're saying typically, the most important part. And I'll have to raise that volume and try to connect it to the, so you'll do something like a ah,
Speaker: I just think it's like, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then the point is there and I have to fuck with that. ah So that's normal conversing. It's just not from a professional who wants to have a professional podcast, which is good. We picked the name we did.
Speaker: That'd be my only criticism of you, but I have a ton of criticisms of me. So it's we can go there, but. Mine, ah i mean, i'm we are, we are, yeah, we can go there. my I have this, it's with everything, but this relationship with the modern way to market stuff and the way people hear about stuff and how i we're so anti it. But it seems, now that I've kind of done, I've gone down that path with my business, you know, social media and all that crap and online marketing.
Speaker: And I have this, it's like, I listen to other shows and i'm like, yeah, I think our show's probably just as good. Which is a dumb thing to say, but it is, it it's just the way it is. you You kind of, even if you're like us, you think we're above, well, above everything, you're still like comparing yourself a little bit to other, other,
Speaker: other things are the same but i'm like why god damn it sorry speaking of technical difficulties my mic keeps dropping um yeah i'm just like why the battle like we probably could just market this a little bit and make it make it like a big thing yet for some i don't know if it's my insecurity if i'm scared if it's because i've talked so much shit about social media over the years that i'm like can't go back now but uh i i That's my issue with the show is like why um Why don't we do more with it you know i mean It's like the issue going back and forth We shouldn't do more with it We're doing it for exactly why we what we want it for Versus like fuck it It's a good show It's a better way to make a living or spend your time than other things Why not
Speaker: Why not do it? And that is like a bit of a battle. Cause I'm like, you did all the work you have, it like just to get the show up and running for two years, almost three years is a pretty big deal. It's like, you did all the work. Now all you gotta do is follow the same script. I already already followed to get the table business off the ground and you're going to increase your listenership and it probably be fun.
Speaker: Yeah, there's work there, though, to engage and stuff. I don't really want that at the moment. But yeah, like I get what you're saying. I'm just saying when somebody, even if it's a friend of ours or someone's like, oh, I like that show. I like Lance's silly skits. We're both, we can act like we're above it. We're both like, oh, that's awesome.
Speaker: Of course, yeah. So like if that happened over and over again, and maybe that money, we we make him some money or you use that money do something good for the world. I don't think in the end we'd be like, fuck, why we sell out bitches? If that happened, we'd probably be happy with it.
Speaker: Yeah, I'm sure. But, you know, that's all the more reason to clean up some of your bullshit. Make it better. think I think... i don't know. You you listen to a lot of podcasts. Like...
Speaker: i don't I don't know if the production side, I mean, yeah, sound quality, all that stuff, but I don't know if that's why people are tuning into a podcast and be like, wow, great great production value, great lead-in music, great great mic great mic sound. Like, no one cares that much. Well, I think they care to a point. point, If they're having to jack their volume, if it's not consistent with other podcasts. I mean, that's all in the biz, probably pretty easy or kind of table stakes, but like ours is a little under that, but it's not so noticeable that it's...
Speaker: really hard and difficult to listen to. I try to crank the volume enough, but there's enough background noise and and silliness on your end. And then I don't have a great room for direct to mic. I could put some like sound barrier stuff behind me, just some basic stuff that most people do make a little more studio quality.
Speaker: That's not hard. It's not necessary. Yeah, that stuff is pretty, pretty easy. But yeah, I'm like... i don't know yeah but i don't i think that's two different things a little bit you know if you're like uh okay we should get better mics versus we should let the let anyone besides 30 people know that we're doing it sure is another thing but i still i mean i can't get over this is one of the things if we get into the deep thing of what we don't like about our stuff it's like who fucking cares but i'm like uh to be a guy marketing a podcast
Speaker: just sounds still sounds so ridiculous and i'm like why do i fucking care like who cares yeah i don't it's not as much for me as like a cool thing or something yeah it doesn't like reflect on my coolness or or my view of myself i'm just not sure i really want to do it but you do it but you're putting all the work in every week for three years Yeah, but I'm not sure I want to do what's necessary to promote and maintain engagement from a larger audience and have goals related to it. Now, if it's just as simple as like, let's just turn on the social media feeds and we'll take a few dumb quotes and throw it out there.
Speaker: That's cool. But if I have to start making videos and then it's just no thanks. Yeah, it's true. There is that aspect of so even my minorly successful podcast. is usually like I mean, it's all this bullshit. Like the, uh, can't remember what they're called. Luca was telling me yesterday, like, things it's called reaction videos or whatever. It's like, you're watching something on YouTube or Tik TOK and you're just commenting on it.
Speaker: It's like a way a lot of people get, you know, get like, uh, some presence on the internet. Like, I don't ever want to do any of that shit. and I'm sure you don't, but like, yeah, you're right. There's, there's probably a little bit more to it than just being like, Hey, we paid five bucks a week for Facebook ads.
Speaker: And now we have all these listeners. Yeah, I think it'll come back around, man. I'm holding out. and I feel like and once we get them here, they stay. Well, it'll come back around, I think, in the sense that, like...
Speaker: People will be looking for understated, you know, basically pieces of shit. There's not that, I just don't feel like maybe like there's that much polished as you say out there. Like it all feels like, i mean, even the NPR thing I listened to is still like in a, I mean, it's polished as far as they have, like let's say they have news stories they're following, they have correspondence and there's a flow and there's music, transitional music.
Speaker: But it's just everything in this space is still more like free-flowing conversation than what we grew up with, with like, and you know, radio news or radio talk shows and shit like that.
Speaker: Dude, I don't know what we're talking about because this is not what I want to talk about. So we're at risk of me cutting this section out. Well, maybe this is a microcosm of what i what I don't like about myself on the show is driving us down a path that doesn't get us to the bulk of the conversation.
Speaker: Yeah, I'd agree. What's your problem? what What don't you like about yourself on the show? A lot of it's phrasing. It's just so redundant. I'm not sure if other people pick up, but saying the word insane all the time.
Speaker: You think you say insane a lot? Oh, God. As much as I say interesting, we should do Maybe insane. i say almost in a way like we're dialoguing about somebody something and I want to like emphasize the point and I'll be like,
Speaker: It's almost impossible. It's almost impossible. So i don't the adding the almost just pisses me off. And then responding to you with this is kind of long-winded, well, well, I wanna reach in and kind of smack myself like I did in the middle of the night in my bed.
Speaker: And just stuff like that that keeps coming up. And I'll, cause I'm the one listening to it. it would like probably at a slower pace than you with a little more critical, critical year. And I'm like, fucking God, go to a training, go to Toastmasters, get some alternate sayings.
Speaker: So that bothers me. I don't even notice that. That's, that's, that's interesting as I would say, but, uh, is this, but this is specific to the show or just like, you just don't like the way you talk in general.
Speaker: It's probably both, but like if you're going to talk on something and have people listen to it, you know vary up the way you speak in a way that is slightly more entertaining.
Speaker: Put some effort in, is what I say to myself. And you just go back to the same stuff. You know, the fucking and the fucks, unless we're like it's a parody, it annoys me. When we're injecting fuck, it's still annoying.
Speaker: ah But some of the phrasing I have to respond or to make my point, it tires me out. it's i've got to I've got to develop some skills. i don't i think I don't know if it's conscious or not. Maybe I'm wrong because I'm not really keeping track, but I feel like we cursed way last now.
Speaker: Probably, because it's it's bunk, it's weak. It doesn't help get a point across. Sometimes, but not as much as we thought. Yeah, i don't know. I'm not worried about too much. I do know when I'm like, when I when I'll come down here for a month and I'll go back and start doing stand up, I'm usually cursing way more on the first sets of the reentry because I'm probably like less prepared and maybe a little nervous. So maybe it's like a nervous reaction, but you I never would want to tell someone like use only clean language, you know, like it should feel like a normal conversation. But if someone I mean, in regular life, if someone's excessively cursing in a weird situation,
Speaker: It's it's kind of um it's like kind of like awkward, you know, so it's probably like that. Like if we were just like i'm fucking AI like every second, it would be weird. I think we might have pulled that back, but it's probably because we're a little more comfortable now, whether we know it or not.
Speaker: Yeah, what do you think about still interjecting the sex stuff? Occasionally, we both do it. I'm not sure it's ever going away. We both do it.
Speaker: What do I do? Dude, you did you throw in trim and you throw in so much bullshit. You, yeah, but you're doing like skits about it and everything. Skits are, dead the skits sit on the periphery, man. In the meat of the conversation, you're interjecting sex stuff a lot. We both are.
Speaker: I don't think it's, I don't think that's an issue. I don't think it's going to go away either way. I think it's just something people have to suffer through. And, and really, honestly, if you're hanging out with your friends, a lot of times you're making dumb and mature jokes like all the time.
Speaker: But this is a pod. This isn't hanging out with your friends. This is you and I are hanging out, but it's like, oh, yeah, that's kind of what I got back to, though. Like what you originally set out was to be maybe like less of that shit.
Speaker: It doesn't bother me because I do see it as like a conversation with a friend, which I think people are going to like it. Like, I don't think anyone's like, man, if they were just a little more professional, that would be a good show. Maybe. I don't know.
Speaker: I almost did what I hate. Well, well, uh, nice job. I did. Good save, bro. I did well. And almost you stopped short though. Uh, so I think I might've set out that way, but I have definitely not, uh, adhered to my own rules.
Speaker: I throw out more bullshit sometimes than you. I guess it depends on the episode. Well, you'll get, I think you have a limit of seriousness. So you might go 10 or 15 minutes pretty deep and pretty, i don't know opinionated is the right word, but you have like a strong idea on something and it could be real serious or it could be something close to home. And then it's almost like for relief, you'll be like, you'll throw something at me ah about my cock or whatever.
Speaker: Yeah, we'll be talking about the Supreme Court, and then I'll ask you, how's your mom's trim holding up at her Exactly. And that's just like a release for you. but And i i I think that's great. I don't think there's any problem. like It would be pretty funny if I was listening to NPR and the guy did that. I would be like this is the greatest show I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker: If he was like, nah, I'm just playing. Anyways, back to Iran. Back to the Straits of Hormuz. Yeah, how is your mom's box holding up, do you think? Don't answer that. Don't answer that. Almost. ah Well... but
Speaker: Off the... ri I think my... I don't dislike this, but i' like i could go... We could talk about that for like 10 minutes. not not the the mom no Not the mom thing, but just... Like the idea that you did that. it's it's It's something that probably everybody as they get, like men have prostate issues and they go see urologists and all this shit. And if you're talking about a lady in her 70s or eighty s it's probably like a fair question.
Speaker: Then no one's gonna do. Ever. You're like, Lance, are your parents holding up? And you're like, oh, they're fine. How about the vag? Pretty good. I know she's, uh. Right, right. I know menopause was tough for her. How's she holding up?
Speaker: Yeah, no, it could be an interesting conversation, but not today. So a lot of that happens, a lot of useless absurdity. and so Some would say comedy. you get feet Does anyone talk to you about the show?
Speaker: Yeah, yeah. Nobody talks about the skits. They hate them all, I'm sure. But no one's ever like that. What was that thing about? Does anyone ever get fooled? Like whether they're serious or not.
Speaker: Do you get fooled? I get the sense you get fooled by what the nature of the skits are. they actually ah do they have a serious serious point of view? or it It amuses me how much they don't affect me at all. like they're They're bizarre and crazy and they're in the middle of the show.
Speaker: And I'm just like, that's cool. Well, they're at the beginning now. but yeah Well, yeah. I'm just saying I i don't like... ah I'm never like, what the fuck is he doing? It just seems like a normal part of the show. It just kind of makes me laugh.
Speaker: like yeah if i If I saw the the yeah like a transcript of it, I'd be like, what the fuck? you know But just like in the show, it's just like, there it is. i'm I'm in this phase where I actually want those things to be more useless and more pointless, like to not really have a joke in them, just to be there. There's something about that that makes...
Speaker: makes me laugh. it's It's to my core personality of wanting to torture people with senseless absurdity. But like I'm purposely not trying to write punchlines that are that funny because I think it makes me laugh that somebody has to listen to that before the show.
Speaker: Well, I think the more, but the more like, professional, you know, because they insert that kind of shit in all all shows, like, one way or another, but it might be like, oh, next on next on the news or or like a clip from something. So more like sort of, i don't know, professionally done is the right word, but like the more it just kind of flows in normally, the the funnier it is to me.
Speaker: Yeah. It's it's like, it just seems like a ah a part of the show that fits in. So it's more it's more ridiculous as like a ah thing that we put in there.
Speaker: I hope, I mean, I would love it if some people are like, that's what these guys are doing. ah Like, i don't know. I hope people think it's a serious thing for you. Well, there's this...
Speaker: wish I have that some subset of people who get exposed to this show go, gosh, these guys are fairly pathetic. These guys are really fairly pathetic.
Speaker: And it's kind of sad. I want those people to come to that conclusion. I don't want to be universally loved. And sometimes shouldify the thing I'm doing for that reason.
Speaker: That is, that's potentially weird. That's what, that's what I was talking about though. I mean, I was like you talking about too a little bit like streaming, it's social media and marketing it, but it's the idea we keep saying we really don't want ah anyone to like it or care if anyone likes it. It's like, why not?
Speaker: But do you have that compulsion though, to make it more subpar than it might be if you just left it alone or do you just, no, no, I don't want to make it more Subpar, I just kind of wonder what our why we keep telling ourselves that we don't really care if anyone listens or likes it.
Speaker: Yeah, I'm saying I want to make it more shitty sometimes and in a way that um potentially keeps people from loving it too much.
Speaker: Is there any, is it out let's end with this. ah Is there any, is there any, um like, is there any takeaway from the show? Like, are you going to actively be like, I'm going to, I will not say almost and no matter what, even if I have to, you know, or like, is there any takeaway from the show?
Speaker: going to keep an eye on it, Matt. I'm going to keep an eye on those things. That's about it. I'm going to, I just want to, I mean, I need to do this in my standup too, but part of it's like, as you know, being unprepared for life.
Speaker: I'm going to just, even if, even if I have to stop in the middle of a sentence, if I'm rambling on, I'm just going to be like, I'm to stop. If I hear myself, you're going to have to catch, you're going to have to watch my cues and fill in like it's ah and make it like a a fluid flow.
Speaker: Yeah. What, what could I fill in with though? If I'm like, yeah, it's just like that one time when, uh, how's your mom's puss? There you go, dude. There we're already better. Yeah.
Speaker: I brought it back though, dude. I think we should do this periodically. I think we have. Yeah. But I think the idea, but we're walking away with no change. Well, we are. we're We're recognizing our faults and maybe concluding that who cares.
Speaker: i'm it like I don't know. I just sort of think of it as our standard is like Wayne's World. It's just stupid, useless. A few people like watching it.
Speaker: Wayne's World, the skit, the underlying skit, the cable access TV show, Yeah, but the like, you know, sketch comedy or Saturday Night Live or or like, does it have to have a point? It's just literally for to to extract as many laughs as possible and in a three minute thing or or for us entertain.
Speaker: i think I don't I don't know for if it's in form as much as possible. It's like entertain as much as possible for 45 minutes to an hour. Yeah, I'm not saying we wanna be Wayne's World. I just, the the idea, the the premise of the skit Wayne's World was two dumbasses on a cable access TV show, just you know shooting the shit for a few locals.
Speaker: I don't know. Do you know the origin on that? Like, did did one of them go, they were in some fucking town doing stand-up and watched public access show? I've seen, have you ever seen public as access shows like like low budget? i don't know if they still have that, but they're great. They're so shitty, right? They're so bad.
Speaker: I think we're a little step above just naturally because of all the talent, you know. But that whole, that was it back then. That's like ah like two idiots like us. That's like, you might get that. Now everybody can do what we're doing. So they are. Right.
Speaker: I just like that sensibility. So I don't like this the the trying really hard. I don't like the path where we try really hard and call it polished or call it well thought out. I don't like that path at the moment.
Speaker: It's almost like if we try really hard, I'm going to be doing that all the time. now I never even noticed you did that, but I'm going to be busting out all the time. I do it all the time. I think some people would criticize us, though, that like yeah you guys are just trying to you're just saying you don't care and whatever, and so that it's like a defense mechanism.
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