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Jo: Hey everyone, Joe here, another amazing What's Cracking coming at you. I've got like a big musical lineup. Honestly, this month is smacked full of musicians and I love it. and I've got none other than Ryan Goode. Whiff!
Jo: a brand new album coming out I'll let Ryan say hello first. Hi, Ryan. How you doing, man?
Ryan: Joe, how you doing?
Jo: I am always fantabulous. You know what? I am going to ask you a quick question. and then we're gonna rock and roll from there. Are you ready?
Ryan: Yeah.
Jo: Yeah. What's your genre? This is very interesting to me.
Ryan: It's kind of it's you know, it's not an easy one. I would call it rock and roll first
Jo: Yeah.
Ryan: And done. psychedelic It's jazz influenced. It's experimental. it's a lot of synth in there i had an opportunity so it's yeah i'm going uh the genre is uh yeah it's interesting i would call it rock and roll pretty much but
Jo: Yeah.
Jo: I agree. I agree. And this is the coolest thing about it. I'm looking through different music and stuff like that, and I'm seeing what you've done.
Ryan: on
Jo: And it's like it's a mix of everything. But it's got this solid rock foundation. And so I'm wondering, like when you're growing up, like. How does it, like, who are your influences that make you go from here to, like?
Jo: Everything.
Ryan: Meh that's that's That started with my grandfather.
Jo: Really?
Ryan: he was He was a big band drummer when he was in his... younger days before the war and then after He yeah he was a big band drummer in Chicago.
Ryan: area. He moved his family out to L. A. uh in in my father's youth. and through all that big band influence of uh the music that that he was always playing For me,
Ryan: Was always just right there. I played saxophone and piano growing up. So that was that was really where it all started for me and Once the big band, the drumming, all the things kind of clicked as I as i got into my...
Ryan: late teens and into high school, it was just. Something about the drums called to me and... I kept going with with that once I found them. and so the drums have been now the foundation and everything else kind of came yeah from that sort of Big band, big songs, arrangements. I played yeah a lot of saxophone.
Ryan: A lot of piano growing up. And that was that was like the sort of the the origin of everything is that it's all kind of right there on the keyboard. And then the drums sort of just lock in. and
Ryan: Yeah, it's it's been, I've found myself into a rock and roll just through that that sort of simple thing that happens on the drums in big band when the hi -hat is playing on the two and four and everybody kind of locks in and just feels that swing kind of thing. It's like, it's a really magical thing that sort of happened when he showed me that. It was like, oh, okay, there's something going on here that that really just has always stuck with me. so
Ryan: Yeah, yeah it's it's a long sort of journey through all that kind of stuff, through i'm in college, world music. i played I played a lot of marimba in my life. I played a lot of... just hand drums, different kinds of like, uh, I played in an Afro Cuban band, like a salsa band playing two bollies and wood blocks. And,
Ryan: cowbells and just like really just always bending my way around music where it's calling me to and in in any way that I can. And I've really just stuck with it since what I just said about like that high school, finding the drums. It was like, all right, this is it. I'm i'm going life lifelong.
Ryan: Pursuit of this stuff. so
Jo: the hook it's the hook and then i'm so glad you're talking about experimentation one of my favorite bands i'm gonna date myself is rolling stones of course they are But Charlie, Charlie Watts used to like.
Jo: What can I get this out of like a trash can lid? Like how can I get like, what's this like random thing laying around the house? And that would make album cuts. He's like banging on random stuff around his house.
Jo: is that weird thing too is like you're just like i wonder what this sounds like today
Ryan: I think tones and yeah, all those things where it's like, it's around us all the time. It's kind of up up to us to sort of pull it out of the the ethers or whatever. So yeah, if there's something cool to get a sound. And it just requires banging on it with not another object. And it like... has that rhythmic thing nice to love uh the The sound of like when when the the wash machine was going, sometimes it would start swimming for me. when i And it just. done Or things like the...
Ryan: the The blinkers in the car can be a great metronome at times, you know, and just little things that are always just right there. that uh yeah like that i love charlie watson stones man so yeah those tones the sounds how anything can really be a musical instrument if we can can allow it i think and yeah that's a beautiful thing i love man stones are one of my favorites too
Jo: Really? Okay, so... for Your... We will just like call it the stones level but ultimately ultimately ultimately because we're talking like from the stones they start up as a blues band and they keep morphing morphing morphing and they kind of end up in the last album as a blues band again Say go.
Jo: Do you ever map your trajectory or are you just kind of like letting things go? Like, you know, you're just experimenting, you're seeing what's it going to be, and you always have the rock route. did you ever go like you know what i want to be in 60 years i want to be doing this.
Jo: or
Ryan: that's That's, yeah, I mean, I... in In regards to... the new record chastafarian it's been it's been getting a lot of of that positive sort of feedback that I really, I love to hear about. Like, it really...
Ryan: is a sound that i went for that could be placed now it could be placed 20 30 years ago more. I'd like to think that it could be placed in the future and still have it. So it was that idea that yes, no matter what I'm doing musically,
Ryan: 60 years from now, as long as just as as long as I'm here being and lucky enough to do do my work. I just see... As long as like there's music and that I love the Duke Ellington, you know, there's, there's two kinds of music, good or bad music.
Ryan: i want to find myself involved in good music that makes me feel good and This new record was... was a chance to do my thing. for a first time of all these influences over the last 20 years plus of of making music as a serious lifetime commitment and yeah, the the idea is that for sure when it's when it's uh
Ryan: 20, 30 years from now, whatever, I want to still be rocking. I want to still be swinging. I want to still be experimenting with. with technology that's available i mean new technology that's coming out how sort of With plugins and and a lot of these things where it's almost
Ryan: you know I loved the process in the studio I was lucky to work at here in the desert called the Church Studios. and It was an amazing assortment of of... just beautiful vintage keyboards the mini mog and the prophet 10 and the steinway grand piano and the hammond b3 is all in there and i got a chance to play some of those for the first time ever.
Ryan: and that was where the experimentation came in but at the same time it was like wow these uh These are all like the the real... deal on and as much as I can understand how plugins, things like that make make for a great demo, make for a great thing at home where you don't maybe... have access to or are able to you know own these instruments In the end, I really love the... the the real thing and that
Ryan: Yeah, no matter what's going on, i want to be I want to be right there, man. I want to be playing and singing and having fun. so
Jo: so that That's what it is. is And I'm glad you brought the new album, The Shots of Parium, because I know you started out with like. bands and there's always the mentality like It's a tribe. It's a group. It's a family.
Jo: You don't get to go to whatever you want to go for breakfast. You know, it has to be a group decision, right? And now you're.
Ryan: Mm -hmm
Jo: your own. How does it feel?
Ryan: It feels pretty good.
Jo: Yeah.
Ryan: Feels pretty good. it's I love being in bands. I've been lucky enough to play with some just heavy cats over the years that have shown me. you know, so many things that that without them, I mean...
Ryan: So I love love my my band roots, and this this was always intended to be a band, not a solo. project as much as I want to put my name on something that I wrote and did.
Ryan: I know there's a few covers on the record, but but still, it's you know something that that's my... I guess just feeling my what made me feel good all the advice over the years both in in in person personal advice and
Jo: Yeah.
Ryan: advice gleaned from being in the industry you know so i make something that feels good Be yourself. know the music that that is is yours and and just do it the best you can and bands are so you know good at that right and and it's in a way being on my own has been like a Wow.
Ryan: I don't like the feeling of like I'm on my own and doing this. I've had. help I've had. you know class it's always going to be a collaborative effort so This thing was meant to be a band in the end.
Ryan: and I wrote music that that you know we have a show coming up in a week here. or just under a week, actually. It's on Friday, a week. It's like three days away. We've got a show coming up, and it's going to be the first chance for this music to...
Ryan: to have a live. things So, Yeah, this... This this this whole process of like being on my own is is both really cool and also like man i really do
Ryan: Love my bros. you know I love having having everyone show up and jam and we're we're hanging out and breaking bread and you know making music. we're all Our hearts are all beating and making music. and And it's wonderful that I wrote it and to hear these guys play it because i I would never ask anyone to like. play this exactly as I did because not only is that impossible, but it's not what I would want. I want the the guys to...
Ryan: or anyone to play it. the way that they hear it to where it is going to be its own thing when it becomes a live uh show and so That's been really... great as a sort of a salve or antidote to that feeling of loneliness is like, oh, I'm back with with with with friends again, making music. And and it's it's a good feeling.
Jo: It's... It is an amazing journey though. It is an amazing journey where... You're like, okay, I'm doing this. and now i'm solo but All my mates are here and then they're interpreting what I'm giving them and making this beautiful thing that you might even not even heard in your head. you're like Oh, God. that's see I heard my You keep going, man.
Jo: It's like, keep going, right?
Ryan: Right. Yeah, yeah
Jo: And then you've got your gig coming out. On a scale of gigs This is gonna be your first time showing the new album, right?
Ryan: Yes.
Jo: Very first time. What are you feeling right now? What are you feeling?
Ryan: I'm, I'm feeling ready. This this band I got together, a bunch of local friends and and family that that that have been playing with me. we've been We've been getting after it for the last maybe couple months.
Ryan: It just feels so good. It's rocking. It's it's electric, man. i'm I'm just really excited. Again, I got some some special guests. kind of going to pop in for for some some a shortly it's for It's a short set. We're we're supporting some some... My dear friend, Mario Lali, who I've had...
Ryan: fortunate of working with for better part of the last decade in one way or another. Oh, excuse me. I just bumped my camera. he yeah He invited me to do the show after he had heard the one of the singles and and was just very kind and gracious in doing that. So I immediately...
Ryan: took to uh that that like hey let's let's get the band together and so now after all this you know a couple months of hard work where we're right in the home stretch and getting ready to to go and play and it's uh yeah it's a whole new thing it's the record it was is i'm i'm proud of it i love the way it sounds and all the the the hard work that went into it but again, as a live thing it's it's it's just its own it's going to be different and that's going to be really fun to share
Jo: And that's what it's sharing. And that's exactly it. as you know when you're showing this when you're you're did you ever think okay if i if i let mario's hear this. Of course you're gonna bite me on. as a supporting act we're just like you know sharing the music and because Because you're such a talented and you're such a nice and like all these things you're building up to your career everyone knows this right
Ryan: okay Thanks.
Jo: And he's like.
Ryan: Thank you.
Jo: Yeah. well You can thank your parents and your grandparents don't yeah looks like they're the one who made you like You know what I'm saying?
Ryan: I would say good manners don't cost a thing, man.
Jo: You are.
Jo: I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
Ryan: done
Jo: Thank you. And then... Because of this. people want to support you right and the music's good So it's easy to support you. It's not like, oh my. hey like Oh, you're...
Jo: You're that you there. You're there. so Is that a recognition of your peers then? Is that another way of saying, I'm here, I've arrived, I'm i'm worthy of everything I'm getting right now?
Ryan: Well, yes, and and also i I appreciate the concept of every day, every show, every everything starts at zero. And we work.
Ryan: That show that day so so I i made a record that i'm proud of and for my peers to recognize that when i again i'm sharing it for the love of of the art just as they've shared with me you know the there's no like guarantee in life. There's no guarantee in this. you know we're're're're we're We're really in it because we love it.
Ryan: And so, yeah, to share it was just an amazing feeling. And then to... to have that you know i don't have expectations with my friends and family like that where i just again if i If I get some any kind of positive feedback from anyone. I take it all the same. There's no, there's no like, Oh, well this person is that everyone is, is, is.
Ryan: to me is like some of these listening parties for example we just had i met some amazing people That just... i'm I'm just so humbled by their presence and their ear. Again, this is just an amazing feeling of sharing. And so, yeah, having like having Mario hear it.
Ryan: and then you know for him to say hey we're doing a show would you want to get on it it's like I had no expectation like that. But again, There's the there's the the match, right? There's the spark. Now let's do it. You've been given the door just got opened a little. Let's make this band happen. Let's take the next step. And that's where, again, I look forward to earning it on the live stage with this.
Ryan: project just as much as being able to say, yeah, I can go back in the studio and I've got lots more material. and i'm ready to do that but i'm ready to prove the live band as a you know hey we're going to be out there in the world and we're going to be you know making making music that's that's that's uh you know, again, really, really exciting. And for me and.
Ryan: refreshing, I think. is a really good word that I've been put around a lot lately.
Jo: No, refreshing is good. and then I think it's apropos, especially for... a live performance. When you're making things. it is sometimes like you're baking the cake and you don't see the people eating the cake. You know, you just, you bake all these cakes. You ship a thousand of them out.
Jo: Maybe they ate them, maybe they didn't. You don't know. with a live performance? They're eating the cake as you bake it.
Ryan: Yeah.
Jo: da
Ryan: Yeah.
Jo: And what's that? Is that? the allure is that the magic of of art for you is that like the spark you know we're talking about sparks and just everything Igniting.
Ryan: Yeah, yeah, I think so. The the the live performance thing. has always been my... my Yeah, the the the little ignition.
Ryan: switch or something where it's like, wow, people are paying attention, not because they're paying attention to me. They're paying attention to sounds and music that's that's being... Bing. made and that the the feeling of those those Those like... I love a band leader. I worked with Brant Bjork for a long time. He would he would always say that, you know, we it's our job to take people.
Ryan: on on a trip where they can't go on their own that's why they're coming to to listen that's why they're you know So it's our responsibility to to really... It's not about us as, you know, we're not...
Ryan: I don't like the feeling of, hey, I'm cool. Please look at me, you know, and and I love being on stage at the same time. So it's always been about let's hopefully make music that is.
Ryan: worthy of people's attention and ear and and then when we're doing that If there's some some, like, yeah, well, hey, you you get some credit and there's some some accolade and some respect. It's like...
Ryan: Hell yeah, man. you know i i I give it just as much as I love to receive it. you know I love to give it and I love to receive it. it's's ahs Music is beautiful like that. and so Performing at... some it's like really it's it's I love it and I can't wait to get back to it. So.
Jo: No, it's it's a spell. It's a spell.
Ryan: this problem.
Jo: the people the People in this. people in the stands the people in the audience they can have the worst day of their lives. The worst day. and just be miserable they worked 15 hours their dog left them whatever it's going to be and they go to the show And your...
Jo: Music. brings them out of their day your music brings them out of their life Make some. part of a funeral hole. If your energy and theirs mixed in between.
Ryan: It's amazing man It's amazing.
Jo: You know?
Ryan: It's it's a jam a jam band kind of vibe is what I... grew up around in Mount Shasta. which is kind of you know the the title of the record shastafari and it's just it's a play on the where I'm from, and Rastafarianism has always been you know in in the the west coast cannabis culture it's mixed in there you know and there's there's more serious uh levels to it i know and so it was
Ryan: It was always sort of a nod out of respect to where i'm from and to a culture that you know clearly i don't come from but But... But really, I mean, I love... i Love the herb man, so I can't hide that i I really, you know, yeah, again, jamming. being around this sort of improvisational like hey we're just showing up and gonna make it happen man nobody really knows and nobody really cares But we know that by the end, we've had some fun.
Ryan: And hey, maybe when people started showing up and...
Jo: Yeah.
Ryan: dancing and so yeah being in being in that like a sort of shast of open Like, hey, man, it's it's a... It's just...
Ryan: Similar, I think, when I hear about the desert generator parties that were so... you know, underground here at the time, but have become things of legend. And it's like if you were there. I've heard so many stories of people.
Ryan: who were there and some from i've heard hey that guy wasn't there and we know so it's like It's kind of funny, you know, like there's a... It was just a real sense of wanting to be there. I think that that comes with this too. And that's a.
Ryan: That's what what I love about, yeah, being being... involved in this my whole life is where We're kind of weaving web network. not and Not in a wicked way we read kind of thing, but like we're literally like...
Ryan: Everywhere we go, right, we're We're bringing energy and we're... we're we're meeting new people and new friends and it's like we just grow and and it's a family and collective so I'm probably wandering off from even what you had just said. Nothing.
Jo: No. not It's gorgeous and it's wonderful. And then it goes to my next question because. I love California. I love West Coast. a thousand percent liquor for life and everything else la and the All the way.
Jo: That's where my heart is always.
Ryan: Yeah. Yeah.
Jo: And I got to see. two bands i'll name one of them i won't name the other one and they're supposed to be like these big mega acts big mega acts one was so you could put your watch on and say go And then you knew every song, every beat, every like rehearse. And the other one was Cypress Hill.
Jo: Cypress Hill came out to a... A big cloud of smoke.
Ryan: Yes.
Jo: And it looks like they were making up as they went. The set list was kind of there.
Ryan: so
Jo: It was kind of there. At the end, they bring everyone on stage from from like all the supporting acts on stage. to do a house of pain song like what the That's their encore. That is their own music. cause like This is our encore.
Jo: And it was an amazing time, right? And so it's that culture though, it's that culture. And so what you're saying is. You're more of the let it go of Cypress Hill. You're more of the flow. is no show is the same.
Jo: No two shows are the same.
Ryan: i love cypher still man we we we've talked a lot about them over the years. They were you know one of the first to... to to champion if not the first in like kind of that mainstream
Ryan: not to just uh i mean obviously we have the chronic dr dre and you know there's there's lots of of cannabis reference but just they were you know like you said they're coming out in a cloud of smoke they got a huge like like they're really championing the herb and i remember my sweetheart and i just picked up the friday soundtrack on vinyl we love vinyl so we you know it's got rolled up light it up smoke it up you know and as a kid it's like i remember hearing that song and
Jo: Right.
Ryan: I got no idea what they're rolling up or lighting or something, you know, but I know that I like the sound of that beat and I like the feel of that music and that once it once it all clicked and I sort of tied it together or understood what's going on, it's like, okay.
Ryan: Yeah, they were... i love I love that you bring up Cypress Hill, man. I can't guess who you are.
Jo: Yeah.
Ryan: who the other band was.
Jo: Tao. I'll tell you how fair it was. I was like, Oh, like okay. This is just the. This is production for commercial only. you know like okay i got it I just sat through an hour and a half commercial. Cool. But it was, man, there the New Super Steel album.
Jo: uh I just listened to it. It's amazing. It just keeps, they keep hitting it, man. They keep hitting it. But you brought up... Vinyl. versus digital. Well, absolutely. You're saying vinyl, I'm bringing the versus digital part in myself.
Jo: because you're talking about like all the technique you know you want you can do the electronics you can do the drum pads you can do all these other things But you know what? Nothing beats the real thing. nothing beats the real thing so is that part of like the physical ownership of the vinyl like the actual touch the media and like so be one with the songs is that more of it
Ryan: Absolutely. Yeah, I mean...
Jo: Yeah.
Ryan: I made the art. i should have i I should have a copy of it right here with me. I could kind of show it to you. Right behind me here is a painting I did. that that and ended up on the back cover of the record.
Ryan: So this was, yeah, it's it's not the fight. I was, when I was setting this up to try and get a good little frame of it, I was hoping to talk about it, but. I love to paint, draw. I love, you know we love physical media.
Ryan: you know especially in an age of like digital burnout we're all sort of remembering if we haven't forgotten that you know it's all about the touch of the thing and tangible thing and so you know having said that i made a few paintings there's another one here it's on the front cover it's just It's a real, yeah, it's it's a -gram vinyl I pressed. i made the it's a gatefold with a uh a bunch of i did a collage and a cut out and my
Ryan: my gal she she did a bunch of well she did all the photography for the record short of some of the photographs I used from my childhood and stuff. And so I did a collage, you know, like kind of cut it all out, made a trippy psychedelic kind of.
Ryan: piece of art that you can hold in your hand that vinyl ain't gonna break or go anywhere you know it's gonna last a long time and You're going to hold hopefully that. that gatefold in your hand and listen to the record and and it's it's meant to sort of take you with it i guess or you're meant to go with yeah you know to to sort of whatever is a because you know i you can't like contrive this experience for someone or like
Ryan: make sure that everyone's going to have this like sort of thing when they hold this. But at the same time, it was that concept of, well, I'm holding it and I like it. I enjoyed painting it. So that feeling is good enough for me. then then hopefully as all the masters and great...
Ryan: ones that came before have said that if you love what you do it's it's probably good enough to share and and so don't hold it back from the world let the world Have it for better or worse. Don't keep it in. Don't die with these.
Ryan: Things I think so many of us are beautiful amazing artists and musicians and creators that we sort of like you mentioned earlier about this sort of a crushing work day and and things that we have to do to survive that are just like, dude, i the respect for...
Ryan: for these these things we these responsibilities and how we handle them and do our best in a crazy world and like The art and the... the the meaning of the the yeah this like Again.
Ryan: I'm starting to go off because I start to think of a lot of things when these thoughts enter my mind. I love that. the idea of of of all this but or not even the idea of how how it creates ideas i should say But.
Ryan: Anyways, yeah, the tangible thing, we we're we're vinyl. collectors and art. we We want to have the the real thing. and and that digital burnout man and the ai slop i'm just tired of it man i just when I see these, like the, it just, it's like, dude, I, I,
Ryan: It's like, man, again, who am I to judge or what anyone wants to, you know, it's it's it's a collective thing, I know, but man, it it feels so tiresome. I don't know how you feel about it, but for me, AI feels really tiresome.
Jo: wow i'm gen x i'm gen x through and through and then once i started to go like Oh, digital music? Oh. I don't own it? But I paid the same price as physical media, but... i don't own this music it means if apple ever wants to say bye bye to the album i just bought
Ryan: It's gone.
Jo: it goes away. Yeah. I was like, How is that a thing? Wait, what? I was like, and then.
Ryan: You know,
Jo: Artwork's just like, your artwork's amazing. I love that you're doing that. You're you're so artistic. And it's your vision.
Ryan: You asked him.
Jo: it's Your album is your Shastafarian. That's it, man.
Ryan: Right. Thanks, man.
Jo: All right.
Ryan: I was really inspired when I heard. an article or read an article or something about how vinyl was competing and almost outselling digital sales again. And it's like, well, there's there's a reason for that. And and let's really go all in. And so you know making this record was all kind of about that like let's just do it make make the the the best piece of work we can. that's totally meant to be a you know, again,
Ryan: a little bit of a story but this selfless yeah sharing like hey man let's take this and or I always say, you know, there's one thing too, I find myself, Hey man, or that's, it's one of the lyrics in the song. It's like, Hey man, Hey bro, Hey dude. It's like, that's kind of the whole.
Ryan: like I mean, there's lots of women in our industry and that deserve so much credit. And so it's, you know, I have a lot of tongue in cheek stuff that I, you know, I'm, I. I want to catch myself from like, oh, yeah, the guy showed up, that kind of thing. You know, there's there's a real...
Ryan: I don't know I... this is not maybe maybe i'm treading i i just again i i am I'm trying to avoid saying. Hey, man, or like, you know, you know like there's there's a real, I think,
Ryan: Sorry.
Jo: It's where we grew up. Dude. And that's how we do. i just have to tell you know I don't care. I'll call. I usually call women mad, too. Like, hey, man. Like, i like it's just that.
Jo: The West Coast.
Ryan: That's it.
Jo: You're into us.
Ryan: Exactly. more and it's It's a way of just speaking that we all, I think in California, have it's like, and so there's nothing wrong with it. And I'm not like some. I'm not a crusader for like,
Ryan: this, I don't know. I just, again, it's these little things I think that count again, like the little things we can try. So anyways, that's. Not to derail what we're we're talking about, but yeah, I really love the... the physical uh Having it in your hand and being able to go on the trip and and yeah having Having also the digital there I think is important. It's convenient. It does sound good. It's not that bad. It's just.
Ryan: I think maybe if we we all have that burnout feeling then we're eventually going to get back to the The. the I don't know the Yeah, that what what's actually tangible versus this. thing that will just disappear in a cloud. at at at some point.
Jo: Any moment. Yeah.
Ryan: Yeah.
Jo: it's we I went to... A scream core. a screen metal concert.
Ryan: yeah
Jo: I knew nothing. That's none. advanced none None. It was amazing. Absolutely amazing experience. Afterwards. They're all selling albums. Michael.
Ryan: Yeah.
Jo: Like wow, this is like... album album was like oh my god this is this is such a great thing because you can take it home it's they can sign the album They can't sign the cloud.
Ryan: It's
Jo: You know?
Ryan: And you know it's so cool. We had a little vinyl sort of... exposition sort of thing here at the dune room where i'll be playing on friday this was a little few weeks back or so but the owner, Ron, uh,
Ryan: he He brought his... his his punk rock. 45s. collection from you know when he was you know, in it when they were making them and, you know,
Ryan: you think in the moment oh whatever this is a passing phase or something or like those are just worthless this but this music sucks whatever they were saying in the moment i want you know This isn't Steely Dan. Like that this is just, and now look, now look how valuable they are. Now look at the the impact that they have and still have to like. We were at a friend's shop, our friend Jay up in in Yucca Valley, up on the Sun Records. Very cool shop.
Ryan: He's got all of the... Well, I don't want to say all, but just so many old punk, like 45s and records in in his in his on his walls and in his bins. It's like, dude. I could... Go.
Ryan: Broken one day, no question. i could end it all right here, right now and be done forever. but
Jo: but that's that's the best part of it and i was i was listening to billy idols like talk about something it wasn't at my shop unfortunately but he's just going through gen x days generation x and it's like you know as punk as we didn't have an expectation because there were none against us So we want to be the best in the world. And he was just the art direction. This is it. Anything was possible but because no one thought they could do it.
Jo: You know, so it's like that whole punk era was like the big middle finger to everyone else who said you can't do something.
Ryan: Just tell me I can't and watch me, right?
Jo: be Watch me. blow up man that's what it is So.
Ryan: Yeah.
Jo: You're talking about this Friday. I'll tell you what, today is Tuesday. I will put this episode out. tomorrow.
Ryan: right
Jo: If you want to plug the Friday thing. where's Where's Friday at? Where's Friday at for you?
Ryan: Friday's at the Doom Room in Indio. California here in the Coachella Valley. It's it's a new venue. it's it's an It's an older part of... town it's the old town indio that's being you know it's coming up again so super cool old little part of town miles and oasis road there dune room indio Friday the 21st.
Ryan: It's this this Friday, the 21st. We'll be supporting Coachella Valley band Mighty Jack and headlining the show will be the legends, desert legends, Fatso Jetson.
Ryan: My friend Mario and his his band, all they're they're all they're all friends. Good, good, good guys. family Family band that... has been doing it for a long time and has paved the way for, again, so many.
Ryan: younger guys like myself and gals you know we're we're we're just i'm so uh yeah Again, grateful to Mario and Humboldt to be doing the show. Yeah, it's a real cool venue, Dune Room, brand new, great sound, great venue. they're They're having all kinds of events there. Ron is doing everything. you know Everyone's welcome there. They're really doing great things for for the little community in India, which
Ryan: as you know it has the roots to coachella and this whole festival but you know I would i would kind of argue that there are many locals who feel sort of left out or not maybe left out, but don't even want to be a part of. Coachella anymore or anything that it brings and that it's sort of a thing where it's like, you know to have again something that feel i'm not a local here so i'm from northern california mount shasta but i've been here about 11 12 years almost
Ryan: and And I love it. And I can kind of see. being from a small town myself. and also just being around festivals and this sort of thing that there is a real need for a local Thing that that feels like this is our place. This is where we go and play This is this so that's that's really cool. Ron. Ron. Mesh is the owner there. He's that's his he's a Also at the church where I got to record this record. So kind of a cool. connection.
Ryan: And yeah, they're. Dune Room Indios. really really killer check it out
Jo: Oh man, I'm jealous. Honestly, I'm so jealous like, I was like, Can I get a ticket tomorrow and fly out to, I can't probably. Irresponsible to I need to go back to Cali.
Jo: I need to go back. I need to go back. And I'll definitely start like just following you guys around, man. So if, if Intel get the Cali, where can I find you on the internets and the interwebs? What's your handles?
Ryan: a I've got the the Shastafarian is the website, shastafarian .com. And I've got an email there, info at the Shaft Safari. And that's kind of how I'm.
Ryan: keeping uh trying to keep things rolling as far as any any interest or inquiry you know i'm directing people there And then on on the on the Instagram, I'm at the Shastafarian as well. and And that's kind of where it begins and ends. Oh, I apologize. I'm also on Bandcamp. at the Shastafarian. If anyone's interested in a digital downloader, you can pick up a copy of the record.
Jo: Record.
Ryan: But... Yeah, I kind of leave it at Instagram. i I'm not huge on social media, but I recognize that. You know, we're all kind of plugged into that. So I don't.
Ryan: I'm not trying to just dismiss it or say it's stupid or whatever it's just it it is kind of at times a little much for me when when all these Things are... you know, also in my mind as far as getting the band together. But hey, I signed up for it. So no, no complaint about social media, really. But again, it is.
Ryan: It is a... it is where i leave it is uh instagram so yeah if you're looking for me uh the shastafarian is uh the handle to check out and uh i do have a youtube channel as well the the real chef safarian We're gonna drop a video.
Ryan: uh after this uh concert we're gonna
Ryan: After this show, we're going to get a little bit of... a some some different compiled footage together and yeah put a little video together and so yeah that's where you can find me
Jo: you know what i'm going to be subscribing to all these right now so i can't wait for that video Honestly, any artistic eyes.
Ryan: Rawr! Sweet man.
Jo: Oh, that's gonna be so good. It's so good. Now, I ask all my guests this. And for a few, it might be a but different answer. If you can go back in time and tell younger you, I mean like...
Jo: preteen. Like, young, young you. Anything. What would you say?
Ryan: I would, what would I say? I think I would tell the younger. me. that You're okay. and that there's no need to seek acceptance from those that don't.
Ryan: want to know or that don't There's there's I'm an adopted person And so there's there's in my life, there's been a lot of that searching for.
Ryan: acceptance that I just couldn't give myself. And so as a really young person, and as a really young adopted person, adopted into a wonderful, loving family. Cheers.
Ryan: you know, really on paper nothing should be wrong. But then, you know. When you know that the first year of your life, roughly, you were shuffled around a little bit and then ended up in a...
Ryan: a place that was safe and secure, but there's still that lingering feeling of like, what did I do wrong almost? Or what, what was it that, that, and you know, you're an infant child, you can't do anything wrong, but still those feelings linger and you're kind of looking for this acceptance that.
Ryan: Really? giving to oneself might not be the easiest thing and so To answer that question, I think I would just tell myself like, Just a real pat on the back. Like, dude, you're okay.
Ryan: It's okay to be sensitive. It's okay to be different. it's okay to be all these things because in the end who you are is important and no one can be you so just be the best you that you can be maybe that's something i would say too just no one can be you so be the best you you can be that's probably That's actually what I'd say.
Jo: and Then that's lovely lovely advice for e but everyone, really. It's a lot of times people. you can't You can't please people. You have to be you. because someone's not gonna like what you're doing no matter what someone's gonna love what you're doing no matter what and as long as you are truthful to you That's all you need to be.
Jo: So. Wow. we thought We went around it. We went around it. And I thank you for your time. It was a great conversation. Good luck. Break a leg, as they say. Friday, man, is going to be wonderful. And the Shastafarian, get it now.
Jo: Go get the vinyl. Get both. Fine on digital. Listen to the digital as the vinyl ships. There you go. That's how you do it. Ryan, I thank you. On behalf of myself and Ryan, we bid you good day. Bye, everyone.
Ryan: Thanks, Joe.
