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In this episode, hosts Andrew (Caliri Creations) and Kelly (Cocky Crocheter) plunge into their genuine feelings about granny squares - the good, the bad, and the ugly!

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Transcript

Introduction and Social Media

00:00:13
Speaker
everyone and welcome to our third episode of 2CCs of Fiber

Granny Squares: The Main Topic

00:00:19
Speaker
Arts. I am Kelly of Cocky Crocheter and this is of course Andrew, Clear Creation slash Plant Knit Fitness. yeah today we decided, um yes, the topic today is just granny squares.
00:00:33
Speaker
That's it. That's the topic. That's the coat. And we're going to spend half an hour talking about granny. Yes. And you're wearing your granny square coat. So let's actually start there. Okay. Let's talk about your granny square coat because I have some opinions about it.
00:00:46
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, let's hear these opinions. i want you No, no, no you you'll hear these opinions after you talk first about your own granny square coat. So let's show everybody ah who's watching.
00:00:59
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I have opinions about it too, so don't worry. But this is a duster cardigan that I made. It's a granny square. There are 77 granny squares in here.
00:01:11
Speaker
it has pockets. um And you can like twirl around in it, which is like you know super lovely. um It took probably like two months or so to make.
00:01:24
Speaker
And it's all freehand. Like I didn't follow a pattern or anything. I just made a bunch of granny squares. And then for the construction, i um wasn't really sure what to do. So I just pinned all the granny squares together how I thought they should go.
00:01:40
Speaker
Because I knew I wanted to make a duster cardigan. Because actually I had been inspired by um this TV show. forget what the show was, but it was a Netflix show. And this woman was wearing a duster length um cardigan with all granny spares.
00:01:58
Speaker
So that was the inspo for wanting to make this.

Challenges with Color-Changing Yarn

00:02:01
Speaker
um And this uses that red part yarn that is like ah the granny square yarn. So the yarn actually changes colors by the time you get to the next round. So you only have two loose ends per granny square versus what would be like 10 or 12. don't know how many, but you know what I mean.
00:02:24
Speaker
um so yeah, that's my granny square. Three colors, yeah. Okay. It is one, two, three, four, five colors. Five. Each round is a different one. Okay. then I think each square is six inch by six inch. okay. Okay. I see.
00:02:41
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. That's okay. Very nice. And you said you used like the red heart, like color changing one that all right. Okay. I have, tried using yarn like that for granny squares, but it was like in a tester phase. So it was being developed and it did not work super well. Like it was not dyed very well. um And they ended up pulling that project anyway, but I got paid to do the testing. So took money and I ran. I was like, yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was really nice. Like, um but ah I definitely had a lot of critiques on like this yarn is not creating the granny square that it's supposed to. So yeah, Yeah, but it looks like that one thing actually like did what it was supposed to.
00:03:25
Speaker
It did, and I will say not every square was perfect. like If you haven't tried using this yarn yet, like you will probably have to like rip it out and try again with like tighter or looser tension to like make sure your color change lines up with the actual round.

Kelly's Critique of Granny Squares

00:03:42
Speaker
Um, so some of them are like, you know, instead of a double crochet, it's like a half double crochet. Cause I was like, Oh man, I'm running out of yarn. So let me just like fake it really quick or like do a much tighter stitch just to make it work.
00:03:56
Speaker
Um, and you can't even tell in the, in the final thing, know, it's all about like the final appearance. So it worked out. Right. And definitely I can see the, like, i I can't tell. Like, I mean, I just see them as well, just yeah ah an amalgamation of granny squares all stitched together. And I did not know that you didn't follow a pattern on that. Like when I saw you post about it a long time ago, when you first finished and you were like twirling around in it and stuff, I was like, Oh, okay. I wonder like where he got that pattern from. And to hear it's like you free formed it.
00:04:28
Speaker
Had you, yeah had you made any kind of cardigan before? I had made a knit cardigan, um okay and that one was a pattern. um Okay. But this one, yeah, i just made all the granny squares, and then for like the borders, um it's just a slip stitch rib, crochet rib.
00:04:47
Speaker
Okay. And then the collar is also slip stitch, and then I just did like increases, you know, of you to make it fatter here. Yeah, it's like, yeah. oh yeah Well, it looks very cozy. is cozy. It's a little bit too warm. But, you know, it's okay. Well, I imagine, like, for LA weather, it's probably not a lot of opportunities to get to wear it. I mean...

Granny Squares as Crochet Icons

00:05:13
Speaker
I know. but every time I do wear it, I get a lot of looks. um So it's, like, very, like, fashion, you know?
00:05:20
Speaker
Good looks or...? Yeah, good looks. I hope. I'm assuming good looks. Okay. Okay. but Yeah, this ah this was the biggest granny square project I've ever done. And so like it was fun. But one thing about granny squares, especially big sewn together granny square projects, is that I feel like you always underestimate how much work it's going to be to put it together in the end.
00:05:49
Speaker
Because it's easy enough to make one grainy square. And it's like, you know, you're just trucking along, making your square, and you finish your square, and you're like, oh my gosh, it looks so good. ah Wow, this is amazing.
00:06:00
Speaker
And then you put it to the side, and you start the next one. And then eventually, the amazement of finishing each square fades. And then you're like, damn, I still need to make like 50 more. heck There's a lot of squares.
00:06:17
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, it is. And you think like, oh, okay. And you went duster with it. Like you didn't even go like regular cardigan size. Like the fact that you went duster. I'm like, that is so many squares to have to make. Like when you said 77, was just in my mind thinking, how many hours of work is that? Just to make the squares.
00:06:38
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. like It was basically like one or maybe two squares a day. So you got to think it's like, yeah, unless it was the weekend, i was only making one square, maybe two, you know, after work.
00:06:51
Speaker
But yeah, it took a long time.

Community and Collaboration

00:06:54
Speaker
ah Okay. Well, I mean, so those of you who know me really, really well, like you already probably have heard a lot of my opinions about granny squares. Um,
00:07:08
Speaker
from my impassioned speeches, none of it is positive. I will not lie. knew you gonna hate Granny Squares. I could tell already. I knew Yes, oh my God. I don't hide my hatred very well. um So one of my beefs with it is exactly what you were talking about. The experience you had with it is that they take so freaking long. Like they're not in the in and of themselves, they're not a lot. Like they they work up fairly quickly.
00:07:37
Speaker
But then you have to make so many of them. You have to make so many, no matter what, to make whatever you're wanting to out of it. Whether it's a blanket, a cardigan, scarf, a table runner, or anything like that. If you're making like a coaster set, I guess that's the one thing. A coaster set? Yeah, but that's it. Like you make a little coaster set and you're done. And I'm like, okay, that's fine. Granny squares are great little coaster sets.
00:08:06
Speaker
Well, yeah okay. There's another reason why I don't think they're good for coasters. um But I'm also just like, they're so granny. They're just so granny. Like you've seen one granny square. You've seen them all. I'm like, all granny squares look the same to me. And I'm just like, they're all so ugly. They're just like so ugly. I'm just like... that There's so many colors. They assault my senses. Like I, i

The Art of Seaming Squares

00:08:35
Speaker
can't even like, I think granny squares even smell bad. Like I'm just like, they're hurting everything. I know that's me just being, I'm just being dramatic when I say that, but I'm also just like, like every time I see a granny square, I'm just like, Oh God, it's just so garish. And so,
00:08:52
Speaker
I don't know. It's like just too many colors. Even like the ones that are just plain colored. I'm just like, it's just the same stitch over and over and around. And it's just like, they're spacing. It's just, this it's just, I don't know. There's just something about it. yeah It rubs me the wrong way. it's just like, oh, I just don't like the way it works. Oh, really? Tell us how you really feel. ah oh I'm holding back.
00:09:16
Speaker
but no song I not wrong. I totally agree. Like there's some validity to everything you said, know.
00:09:27
Speaker
What's thing? Yeah, so here's the thing. i don't I don't want to offend... I've already offended so many people probably already. with Right. I don't want to offend anybody who has made something with granny squares and are like, well, then he must probably think that what I just made was um was ugly. And i'm just like, okay, yes, I do. I do think that whatever you just made looks bad. I do not personally like it.
00:09:52
Speaker
But I also turn not like... I know, right? But also, okay, but here's the thing. I still respect and love and admire the work that it took to do it because granny squares are a beast. Like,

Learning with Granny Squares

00:10:08
Speaker
it is not worth my time to ever do anything with it. And I have made granny square things before. I have done granny square things. Like, and i think for me, it's like the basic granny square. This is, I'm sorry if I'm taking up a lot of talking time in our episode right now. But you did ask.
00:10:25
Speaker
Yeah. um But i I like, to me, it's like when people do metal sculpture or when they do abstract or figure like non-figurative representational art or non-representational art, it is not my personal style.
00:10:41
Speaker
I can appreciate all the work that went into making it. I can appreciate the thought process, the design process, the genius of the maker. and Okay. So let's think of it this way. I don't really like everything Stephen West puts out.
00:10:54
Speaker
but I can respect the genius it takes to create what he creates. yeah But it's just not my personal style. So Granny Squares are just never going to something that I love.
00:11:05
Speaker
Yeah, right. I mean, that's it's all personal preference. And I mean, I think the basic granny square is like fine. um But then like, there are tons of granny square designs out there. You're telling me you haven't found a single granny square design that you would ever make and like?
00:11:22
Speaker
What about those ones that have like flowers in the middle? And then it's like a square after that. Oh, God, no. I absolutely do not like those either. the really Because I have also had my hand at making crocheted flowers. And to me, I'm just like, they just feel so, i don't, know they they just

Innovating Granny Squares

00:11:40
Speaker
remind me of like, you go into an old dusty home. I don't know. It just, so they just don't appeal to me. Like they're not, they're not elegant enough. I guess like that's my thing. I'm like, there's not really,
00:11:53
Speaker
elegant granny squares is what I would be like. I'm all for. Okay. So here's the thing. I'm not, so I've had people say like, you know, then you must take like all squares or like all things. like, no, that's not true.
00:12:04
Speaker
Cause granny square is a specific type of square. Like all crocheted squares are not all granny squares. There's like lace ones. There's like filet crochet ones. There's um you just make a square. That's like a solid square. That's not using the like double crochet chain, double crochet chain motif.
00:12:22
Speaker
those are not granny squares. Those are just squares. Granny squares specifically use that granny stitch that you have there with like the double crochets and the chain spaces. Those are the ones that just don't really appeal to me. um But like ones with like fun, beautiful lacework designs in them. Those are beautiful. Like I love those, but those are not granny squares. Those are just crocheted squares. um I see. So that is the difference. I set the difference apart. So yeah.
00:12:51
Speaker
Would you make a project with one of those like lace squares? Or is it kind of like the same of like... Hell no. it's Yeah, okay. Because it's basically the same idea of like you have so many squares and then seam it together.
00:13:04
Speaker
that's the So that's the other issue I run into is the seaming and like the putting it together. It takes so much seaming. I'd rather have something that's big and then maybe you do a few seams and that's fine. But like a bunch of little pieces that you have to put together, i don't really want to do that. But I think it looks better. I think it would be worth my time more to put something like that together than to put a bunch of granny squares together.
00:13:26
Speaker
But I've also gone on and on about granny squares so much. Well, that's the topic of the episode. buts Yeah, that's true. i was hear one of the Okay. So something I will give granny squares credit for is that they are very easy to do.
00:13:44
Speaker
So they're a great gateway to getting people hooked on crochet pun intended. Yes.

Unique Projects and Fashion

00:13:50
Speaker
Yes, of course. They're in vogue right now. A lot of people love granny squares. They're easy to make. And so it's an excitement. It gets people excited about it. But then to me, I'm just like, okay, but then don't make that all you do. Try other techniques as well. that's true. Because granny squares are not all crochet is. And maybe that's, okay, now that I'm thinking about maybe that's another reason why I sometimes get a little bit of beef with it is because when people talk about crochet being like, you know, knitting is so refined and like elegant. Crochet is just fun and like, you know, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, well, because what you're thinking of is granny squares. Like you're thinking that's all crochet can be. And I'm like, that's limiting. Like crochet is more than granny squares. So to me, sometimes I'm just like, this is just the stereotype. This is the cliche everyone always goes to. And I'm like, no, this is not all crochet is.
00:14:36
Speaker
but yeah But another positive thing about it that I think is that it is the quintessential crochet image that people think of. Yeah, so it is.
00:14:47
Speaker
It's kind of the face of crochet. And I'm like, I have to pay it the due respect that it deserves for that aspect of it. Yes. All right. I think I'm done talking about that. I want to get your opinions down. Yeah.
00:15:01
Speaker
Well, i think you're right about like the granny stitch itself is like pretty well known. And like a lot of those, I'm sure you've seen those like fake crochet, um like that they sell at Forever 21 or like any of those bigger chains where they like, it's crochet, but it's not really crochet. And like people who are not into crochet, they want the granny square thing because it's like a fashion vibe.
00:15:27
Speaker
um And also for people who are not into crochet, I think other than like the Woobles kits that are like getting a bunch of people into crochet, granny squares are also like a great entry way for people to get started with crocheting.
00:15:42
Speaker
um Actually, I got started yeah in crochet because of granny squares, because actually um we my knitting group and I were making a group project where we were all making granny squares of the same size. And then I seamed them all together to make a baby blanket for the owner of the cafe that we knit at. um so you know if I remember that. It was so sweet.
00:16:06
Speaker
Yeah. So that it was like a fun project and it's like, I think it can be fun if you're doing it in a group like that and like everyone can kind of contribute and, um,
00:16:17
Speaker
You know, a lot of us in the knitting group actually learned how to crochet because of that. Like we had a a little group meetup where the people in the group who knew how to crochet or were teaching everyone else. So it was like everyone making granny squares in a circle at the park. And it was like a really nice time. Yeah.
00:16:36
Speaker
And, you know, I was like pretty new into crochet. So my tension for the granny squares were horrible. These are vastly improved for what I was making before. It was so bad. Oh, good.
00:16:53
Speaker
So you would not have used your original... Sorry, yeah you wouldn't so you wouldn't have used any of your original ones in this cardigan. Absolutely not. We were supposed to be making three by three inch granny squares. And so I was using the hook that, you know, they were giving out to everybody, the same size.
00:17:12
Speaker
And mine was coming out like five inch by five inch. Like that's, that's how loose of a gauge tension that I have for not even just for crochet, but also for knitting. It's loose. I don't know why. Oh, but so I I did learn a lot about crochet in general just by trying to make the granny square that size.
00:17:35
Speaker
And that's how I learned like, you know, if you're using the same hook in the same yarn, but you're getting a much larger square than other people, you need to size down a hook. And so, you know, you can kind of learn the basics of crochet pretty easily, I think, from granny square. Okay. Oh, okay.
00:17:55
Speaker
Well, then I get, a then there's a point in favor of granny squares. One of the very few. Oh my God, we're doing points again. I don't mean to keep bringing points, but I'm like. yeah but okay. What I find interesting about that story, about how you're like, you all made this baby blanket, is that it seems like a lot of you were primarily knitters and learned how to crochet to make this baby blanket.
00:18:24
Speaker
so like But you didn't opt to do, like well, couldn't you do knitted squares and make that the baby blanket? And have that have been your communal project? You went to doing crochet. So what made you all decide to do that?
00:18:38
Speaker
I think the person who made that decision, he's not in the group anymore, but I don't know why he made that decision. i think maybe because it's faster and maybe like it's more consistent or I don't know. Maybe he thought it would be easier to seam them together that way as opposed to knitting. Although the mattress stitch in knitting is like, I guess it's more than just knitting.
00:19:02
Speaker
Do you use the mattress stitch and crochet as well? Yeah, you can. Yeah. Okay. I have. It's, yeah.

Communal and Personal Growth

00:19:10
Speaker
you have to You do it basically the same way, but like what you have to look for for where you put your needle in is a little different. Because like, I know for the ah knitting ones, you've got like the V's that you can look at. And it's kind of the same, but you're looking more at like the tops of the stitches along the edge. So you kind of like are doing it that way, like into the side of the stitch. Anyway, but yeah, that's that's how mattress stitch works. Oh, okay.
00:19:33
Speaker
So I guess, I don't know, maybe he thought like seaming it together would be easier, but he didn't even help seam at all. I seamed the entire blanket myself. And we had previously made a knit blanket the same way where we all made squares.
00:19:47
Speaker
So um maybe he also just thought like, let's do crochet this time because we made a knit blanket for one of our members who moved away. um it was like a collaborative project there, which... I also did all the seaming for, not all I shouldn't say all, but I did a lot of the seaming, primarily seaming.
00:20:07
Speaker
um And so then I ended up doing all the seaming for the crochet blanket and I'm like, oh, so much seaming. And then I had to seam this whole thing together, which was a project. Oh my God. I mean, that took forever.
00:20:24
Speaker
on top of the slip stitch ribbing you decided to opt for, which I can't even begin to be like, why did you choose slip stitch ribbing? I mean, it looks really good. um It looks nice, that's why I tried a couple different options and it just didn't work, yeah.
00:20:40
Speaker
This was the cleanest option. I get that, yes. ah Well, I mean, that that makes a lot of sense. And I think, okay, so like kind of what I was thinking with that whole you're making the squares thing is that maybe that's another thing I didn't really think about, but like granny squares really are like a fast, quick thing that you can work up and that a bunch of people together can make, and then you can compile them to create one giant community project.
00:21:09
Speaker
yeah so I guess like, you know, one of the pro another pro another point in favor of granny squares that I can concede to is that it is an opportunity for people to make a community project for things like charity donation gift giving for like a baby, you know, going away present and things like that.
00:21:27
Speaker
Okay. Yes. yeah Which, okay. I'm not a fan of yarn bombing because again, because you're all making the granny square things and all the colors. I'm just like, okay, well now you're, don't know. like a tapestry of life.
00:21:41
Speaker
It brings like so many different stories and like okay maybe it's like a little bit like... ugly to look at or like, you know, it doesn't, it's not super cohesive, but I don't know. I kind of liked that when you just see like this big patchwork, yarn bomb somewhere, like covering a whole tree or like a whole park or something.
00:22:01
Speaker
Or there was one, i think like in Italy or Spain, like some European country where the town like came together and they all did like a granny stitch thing. And then they like made a ah roof over the street to add shade.
00:22:16
Speaker
And so it's like a permanent installment of like, there are like granny square, maybe it's not granny squares, but I don't know. I remember it like a granny stitch, at least, um kind of pattern. Okay. So that's pretty cool, I think. Okay.
00:22:31
Speaker
Okay, so, okay, well then, that's, okay, so... That's novel. That is, that is something new done with granny squares that I had not ever seen before. And I think that that's my thing is that I've seen granny squares so much that it's just, it's, it doesn't spark excitement or anything like that in me.
00:22:56
Speaker
yeah. But something like that, I'm like, okay, well, that's new. Like, I've never seen it done that way before. Like, I've seen granny squares used to make cardigans and tables, runners and blankets and gloves and mittens and things like that. so And scarves. i already said scarves.
00:23:12
Speaker
No, i I don't know. Whatever. I've seen it be used to make said earlier. but something like a shade for a town. I did, yeah. so So a shade for a town or like yarn bombing or things like that. like that that'smpressed Like that is new. And I'm like, that is a great way of taking something like as classic as a granny square and turning it into something never seen before. That is impressive. So that one is good. um So that I will say i do like, I like that. um and Okay. So you asked me if there was a project. Okay. So there's not a project I would personally make, but there are projects I've seen other people make that I would be like, Oh, I actually would enjoy that. I've seen some nice granny square Christmas tree decorations. So like, Oh, really? Yeah. you take like one of those like styrofoam cones or something, and then you make little gri like little granny squares, but they're like turned so that they're like the corners are what are going down, and they create layers to create like these fun-looking, kind of like vintage, crocheted Christmas trees. Yes, that I do like.
00:24:17
Speaker
Dang, now I feel like I want to make one of those. would not personally want to make I don't to make Okay, you make one of those, and I'll pay you for it. I would love to make that. You'll pay me for it? Yes. Okay.
00:24:29
Speaker
ah I would pay you if you made me, but I would be very specific about how I want it to look and I would be very picky about how I want you to do it. So, you know, i'm just going like, make it

Granny Squares in Popular Culture

00:24:40
Speaker
yourself. I'll pay you $10. No, I'm not going to make it myself. No, I don't want to make, I'll pay you $10 for it. i like Oh, sorry. I'll buy you the yarn.
00:24:51
Speaker
That ain't enough, okay? I need more than that. I know, I know. Yes, okay. So well we can work something out. Yeah, okay, maybe.
00:25:02
Speaker
But you have basically established that you don't like the traditional Grammy Square. So I have maybe a challenging question for you, but I'm curious. And I really have no idea what you would answer to this or even what I would answer to this.
00:25:16
Speaker
So let's just see. um What do you think you would do if you were going to design a granny square that is like innovated? Because you were saying you kind of like the more innovative like uses for granny squares. But let's say you were going to like add your own twist to a granny square. What do you think you would do?
00:25:36
Speaker
Wow, that is a damn good question. um and no I know. I almost didn't ask. almost feel like you're like, okay. don't even know how to answer. Okay, because you're kind of like, okay, so I'm almost like, you know, you're you're challenging me, and I'm like, i' I love rising to a good challenge. I'm like, I don't feel like there's anything I can't do.
00:25:59
Speaker
o okay. ah that means That means that you could come up with an innovative granny square if there's nothing that you can't do. So that means you can do it. oh Oh, girl. I have an idea. Why would you do this to me? no Okay. All right. Let's hear your idea. I'm interested hear what your idea is. Okay. What would you do? okay Well, my idea is nothing like crazy. And I maybe have seen something before. I can't think of anything off the top of my head.
00:26:25
Speaker
But one fun thing might be to try um replacing all or maybe some of the stitches with like front post stitches. instead of like regular double crochet maybe try doing like with uh post stitch double crochet of some kind and just i don't know okay maybe see how that comes out and maybe it'd be like a different spin on it i'm sure people have done that already but uh you know that that would be my initial thought of like it's kind of the same but just a different stitch you know okay maybe that sounds super innovative like
00:27:02
Speaker
No. Okay. So that's the thing is I think like that's when it starts bordering into what I would classify as like, you know, it's a variation of a granny square, but still I would count as granny square if you're doing like,
00:27:14
Speaker
some cluster of stitch and it's the same stitch over and over. Like you're not doing like different ones in different layer or like around. yeah But then you're still doing the chain spaces in between. And it's still like that basic structure. Once you start doing like, you know, well now you're doing like, you know, fun corners and waves and stuff. I'm like, well now you're exiting that like, you know, granny square look in my opinion, you're more moving into like, now you're starting to go into just a general crochet square. Like if you're taking out all the spaces, it's no longer that. But I do like that you're thinking... What if you have all the spaces, but you have, like, let's say the first round is, like, all single crochet clumps, and then you have, like, the next round is maybe, like, different clumps of stitches, but you're still following, like, the

Personal Preferences and Innovations

00:28:00
Speaker
same pattern as a granny square. Would you what would you think about that?
00:28:05
Speaker
That would be interesting, because then you're kind of moving into... They don't all have to be in I don't think they all have to be the same stitch. Like each row would just have to have the same, basically like stitching and then the spacing would be like kind of the same. And that's what I would classify as a granny square. If we're going to go hard category with it. Yeah, that's what i was curious What you're suggesting,
00:28:27
Speaker
Yeah, what you're suggesting with like maybe doing one round of like the single clusters and then a half double cluster, double cluster. That sounds a lot like how my Dreamweaver tank top is worked. I know, I thought about it after I said it. i was like, oh, that's kind of what he did already. Yeah.
00:28:42
Speaker
Yeah. um yeah yeah i mean But that was just me. Well, right. Exactly. But I was also like when I was doing the Dreamweaver, I was like, well, I wanted it to be easy. So I went with basic stitches. But I was thinking I haven't seen this really done before where it's like you see them go up and then suddenly they alternate or whatever. um Yeah. Not to say that that was super hard and that nobody's ever done that. But it's just like that is kind of a different way of thinking. But something I was thinking of that I have not seen before, and I'm actually kind of worried about saying this because now I'm worried about somebody taking the idea because I'm like, well, maybe I want to do it. Okay.
00:29:14
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I have never seen anybody make platonic solids out of granny stitches. What is that? a platonic solid is one of the five...
00:29:26
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um solids that are in geometry that are made of regular figures. So regular polygon faces, and they all are formed by meeting at equal angles to each other.
00:29:39
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um And all the faces are exactly the same. So like one of the, like, so a cube, a cube is a platonic solid because it is six faces. All of them are squares and all the squares meet at points that are all 90 degrees. So like it's all regular, no matter what.
00:29:57
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Another popular one. So, okay. So if you do any kind of D and d like, you know, the polyhedral dice, the polyhedral dice are all platonic solids. They have the D20 is a 20 sided icosahedron. So it is made of all equilateral triangles and they meet at six points and there's all of them all around.
00:30:14
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And then there's the dodecahedron is 12 pentagons all meeting at three points. and all that so i feel like i have never seen anybody design a set of granny platonic solids that would be fascinating to me i would love that well like i think that what would you do with all of this you'd basically be making like three-dimensional shapes that so it'd be like first a cube for example you'd make six of them and then you would have like a granny square cube Yeah, exactly. And I don't know how, like, it would be for no other purpose than for decoration. It would be home decor is what I would imagine. That's what I was, like, getting at, of, like, what would one do with that?
00:30:59
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Or a pillow, maybe? of yeah Like, if it was big enough, like, a pillow might be nice. Yeah, but try to find a pillow insert that would work with all of those. Because then it, like... You could make thing is like, what I would want is I wouldn't make a pillow...
00:31:15
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Like you, okay. But the thing is like, if you stuff it, then it rounds out the faces. And what I want to do is find a way to make the faces flat. So i'd almost be like, you could almost dip. Have you seen those things where it's like, they'll dip crochet or knitting in glue it stiffens it. That's what i I would personally, I would use like hairspray and like, and then create them that, Oh, actually that sounds really cool. Oh my God. and I'm even thinking of like,
00:31:40
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This was like a geometry project I did in like 10th grade or 9th grade where like we tessellated them using string and straws and you would make one platonic solid and then you tessellated it with straws and it formed its complementary platonic solid.
00:31:59
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oh And it was just a really cool. And so like you saw the inside and the outside. I'm just thinking like nested platonic solids are a popular theme in a lot of like geometric artwork, like sacred geometry stuff does a lot of this. Now I'm getting excited about it. How dare you get me excited about a granny square project? How freaking dare you? Oh my God. What the hell?
00:32:20
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Yeah. You're welcome. ah home So one thing, you mentioned that like dipping the the crochet into glue and then letting it dry. I've seen a lot of videos like that where people make like lanterns, but they use a granny stitch.
00:32:34
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So that's like, it's not really granny square, I guess, but it's like granny stitch in the round. It's like similar, but different shape. But then you can use it as like a lampshade. That is something, it is for sure something I want to try one day.
00:32:51
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Haven't gotten around to doing it yet Okay. Okay. Well, you know what? We started this episode with me

Audience Engagement and Wrap-up

00:33:00
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having this very anti-Granny Square attitude.
00:33:03
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And in the course of literally half an hour, you've made me rethink like something that I actually could enjoy about Granny Squares. Yeah. okay I'd like to think it's this coat. I feel like you just saw this coat and were like, it is so fabulous that like I should probably enjoy granny's clothes now. So you're welcome. I will i will say, like even even if it's garish, it's kind of one of those fun, like you see somebody who has like, you're like, what the hell is their style? like What are they wearing? you're like
00:33:35
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But all together, you're like, it's because but they're cool. It looks cool. I will say yeah that is kind of like what I'm seeing on you. You're like, you would go out and like look and then you're like, yep, it's very on, on Vogue, like very chic, very like classic right now because you're right. Like granny squares are a hot item right now. Like they are yeah very hot in the fashion world, which means crochet is getting spotlighted as this like fashion thing, which I can't complain about. So, you know, that's a good thing.
00:34:03
Speaker
And it's great because you can't manufacture a crochet. So if people really want crochet items, they'll just have to buy a pattern from you or something, you know? Oh, no. ah Oh, no. If I ever decide to design something with granny squares. So, you know. Yeah. Hey, maybe you shouldn too you should get into that market a bit.
00:34:21
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Because, you know, people who are getting started, they might actually, this is actually a pretty good idea, i think. If you lean into the granny stitch, at least for like one design, somebody might, it might be like a a gateway towards like your other patterns.
00:34:37
Speaker
Food for thought. That is food for thought, yes. But I will say, much as we could probably go on about this, do hate the idea. Not to it will never happen. Don't say that you'll never see a granny square pattern from me, but I don't hold your breath or you will probably pass out.
00:34:56
Speaker
Think about this. You have your three tank tops right now. You could easily make a granny stitch tank top using basically the same layout of everything. And that could be like the intro.
00:35:08
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Like it could even be like a cheap or free pattern or something. And like literally you would be like, first one's free. And then they would want to make your other ones that are like more complex.
00:35:19
Speaker
Just a thought, you know. Oh, just a thought. Okay. Well, okay. Well, you've left me a plate full of thoughts that I get to feed on. I appreciate that. I think we should go ahead and wrap up because we're we're definitely, I think, past the half hour, which we have normally been pretty good about. But I think by third episode, we seem to be going a little off the rails.
00:35:41
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on the rails, but... There's a lot to talk about Granny Squares. yeah Apparently. Apparently, yes. Alright, well. Alright, so we appreciate it. So, obviously, there's a lot to say about Granny Squares. I would be interested to know how many of you share my opinion about it, and how many of you share Andrew's opinion about it, I guess. um So like, uh, leave in the, in the comments, like, you know, get, get spicy, get fiery, get passionate about like your opinions about granny squares. Cause I, I want to hear them all. I want to know like what camp you're a part of. Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you made a granny square project? You know, things like that. Um, so yeah, definitely do that and definitely give this video a like, um, because if you want to continue hearing,
00:36:26
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all of these opinions, then you're going to want to keep up with all of our episodes. So yeah, there we go. yes Yeah, definitely. Thank you all for watching so much. We really appreciate all the viewership and we're really excited to keep bringing you these episodes. So, um you know, until next time, we'll talk to you later.