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The Counting Struggle
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Think you're good at counting? This episode may leave you doubting! Andrew (Caliri Creations) and Kelly (Cocky Crocheter) confess their embarrassing counting fails in their crafting ventures.
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Introduction and Topic Overview
00:00:13
Speaker
Hey, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Two CCs of Fiber Arts. We are your hosts, Andrew over here and Kelly over there. um Today, we are going to be talking about a topic that's very prevalent in fiber arts. And it all started because I had a question the other day that I really wanted to ask
Counting Challenges in Fiber Arts
00:00:32
Speaker
Kelly.
00:00:32
Speaker
And that question is, Kelly, do you think fiber artists can count? because i know a lot of people really struggle with counting. So I thought I'd ask you ah what do you think?
00:00:46
Speaker
Oh my God. Okay. So when I heard this question, it made me just really think of like, you know, at the end of the day, i don't think any of us really can because he has so it you think you're right. Cause it's like, I mean, if you ask any fiber artists, they're like, can you count? They're all, I think going to jokingly say no, but deep in the back of their mind, they're always like, actually really know. Like I did not struggle with counting as much as I do. Like,
00:01:13
Speaker
counting is hard like when you're a fiber artist you're like it doesn't sound like it should be but it truly is like one of the biggest challenges that i know i run into when it comes to counting and i'm just like oh my god so yes so yeah so basically no the the blanket answer is blanke yeah yeah no i don't think fiber artists can count Yeah, well exactly. i think that's the thing. Like, obviously, we can all count one, two, three, four, five, all of that. But for some reason, when you're working on your project, and it says to like, repeat this stitch motif five times, I'm like, one, three, seven, like, wait, what count am I on? Like, I gotta go back and recount it now. And now I don't trust my own like mental count. So I gotta like,
00:02:06
Speaker
Either like say it out loud so that I can actually hear the number and it's not just in my head or I got to make a mark on a piece of paper or like some other external method of counting. I can't just do it in my head. It's not going to work.
00:02:21
Speaker
No, I completely get that because you're literally everything you're saying is like exactly what I have to do. Like it doesn't matter. Yeah. it's I was even like the other day i was doing something. I was working on like a new project that I was starting up to like, you know, a new design that's like eventually going to be coming out by the way. Shameless plug. So I was counting. And I even was like, okay, I'm going to remember this is how many rows I have made.
00:02:44
Speaker
I set the project down, went to go do something, came back and was like, All right. I think that's the number I made, but now I don't, I don't freaking remember. So I'm like, I can recount them and was like, Oh yeah, that was the number I remembered. I should have just trusted myself, but I know yeah that's not true. You do not trust what number you remember. So it's, it's just, it's so bizarre that it's like, you think the counting aspect of fiber art shouldn't be as challenging as it is. But honestly, i rank it up there with,
00:03:13
Speaker
difficult techniques or picking out colors grily coloror really yes i really do think that counting and like okay so i think that this kind of brings in the broader perspective of math in fiber arts in general because like counting is one aspect of it but like counting measuring um shaping like all of those things that go into creating your fiber art project All of that involves
Mathematics and Design in Fiber Arts
00:03:39
Speaker
like so much mental gymnastics. Like my, sorry, my hands are like all over the place with this. But it's like so many mental gymnastics. Well, they always are. They're always all over the place. Yes, it's very true. I'm sure maybe today I'm going to do another hand gesture that you can comically point out that is not intended to be the way it is, but it might accidentally reveal itself to me like that. Anyway.
00:04:05
Speaker
Probably. ah Yeah. But I mean, like, what are your thoughts on that? Do you, do you agree with that? Do you think that like counting and like the math that goes into it is one of the more challenging parts of fiber arts? do do you think maybe I'm just being dramatic?
00:04:18
Speaker
ah but Well, you are being dramatic, but I do agree. um, Because, I mean, that's one of the big reasons why pattern design is so hard. And that's one of the reasons why, like, the patterns that I've made are only kind of just like a one-size-fits-all thing. Like, it's just hats and, like, scarves that I've designed.
00:04:41
Speaker
And I like that because I don't have to think about the math. I am just like, I mean, for the hats, I did have to, like, mess around with numbers and stuff then, but... um Like for a scarf or something, you don't have to worry about math that much. Especially the scarf that I designed. You remember that one, so.
00:05:01
Speaker
I do, yes, I do remember. It's it's a nice scarf. It's very basic. It is nice. It's like us so basic. Like, it's good for you for designing that scarf. Okay, yes. It's like baby's first scarf pattern. Yes, I mean, never mind that my very first pattern happened to also be a scarf. that had lot of math that was in it because it involved cabling and there was some numerical significance to it. and I used like neurology in it. It was like inspired by me. you know Did you really? Yeah, I actually really did. Yeah.
00:05:33
Speaker
Like, so, okay. So, okay. That this might be a little bit too deep for the topic that we're talking about, but screw it. Like my brain is going there, but I oftentimes find that there are like numbers in general when you're working in fiber arts, especially if you are designing, that hold some, like, significance, um not just because of, like, their utility. So, like, numbers, like, 8 and 4 and 12, they're even numbers, they're divisible by 4, 12 is divisible by 3 and 6. Like, you can do all kinds of, like, you know, repeats motifs with them, but... um
00:06:06
Speaker
Beyond that, they also have historically mystical properties. like The number four was a number oftentimes attributed with things like you know balance, like the four elements, the you know four corners of the world, the four horsemen of the apocalypse. like Four was just this really big, significant number that was like, you didn't feel balanced if you didn't have four that encompassed the entirety of the universe. Same thing with 12. 12 was a very popular number for a lot of things. a lot of number systems were based on it. and so Those are really useful numbers when it comes to design in fiber arts, but there's also just something about being like, Oh, I'm designing something and I want to incorporate the number 14 somehow that for some reason is just the number I'm laying on or the number 11, or just like the number three is really significant. So, you know, and I'm almost like, it's like hearkening back to one of my other things about like magicalness When it comes to fiber, you're imbuing yeah magic into it with the numbers that you're doing. So, yeah, I went real i went to a weird place with that. But, yeah, I i don't apologize. It's because you said numerology. And when I was a kid, like numerology, like my family went through a whole numerology phase. and So I was like, oh, my God, like I didn't know you incorporate numerology into your designs. That's like super interesting.
00:07:21
Speaker
Oh, that is a wow. I did not know. okay so your family went through a numerology phase. I thought it was. Yeah, my family never did that. It was always just me being the little weirdo doing like the magical stuff. No, we like my whole family, at least me and my mom, we would like, I think it's because we saw like a Dr. Phil or an Oprah episode or something where they were talking about it.
00:07:43
Speaker
And so then we became obsessed. We were like using the online calculators and like, what life path number am I? And like all that stuff. I'm an eight, an eight life path. So, you know, do it that way you will. But anyway, thought it was interesting. I don't what an eight is.
00:08:03
Speaker
Oh my God. oh my god oh All Keep going. Anyway, the point is, I thought it was interesting that you use it there. But it sounds like you also sometimes make patterns based off of like specific numbers that you want, which means that you have to keep accurate track of numbers like while you're designing it.
00:08:23
Speaker
So how do you kind of like manage that then? like And is it a big deal if like you're making it and you find out like the number that you wanted? Is it working or like you lost count? like You know what I mean? like does that really re reframe the pattern or something?
00:08:41
Speaker
Okay, actually, okay. So it's kind that's really a a fun way. Okay, so as I'm kind of thinking through the answer to that, one thing is that I don't try to force it. Like that's one big thing. if I'm like, almost with anything else, you don't force a number in if you if it's not fitting. Like if it doesn't want to be there, the number has made it clear. Don't use me in this. um but when it does yeah i know it's like the number speaks to me god i said yeah oh okay sorry i this is oh okay anyway you're all learning a lot about me and the way my brain works and the strangeness that goes on but anyway um the what i'll usually do is i'll have like maybe a numerical thing in mind or like a particular motif that i know uses a particular number
00:09:27
Speaker
And honestly, it's not difficult for me to track because I'm repeating that in my head over and over again. I'm like, one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four, five. I'm not even doing one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11. I'm like, I'm not doing them in sequence. I keep just grouping them.
00:09:45
Speaker
Because it's just easier for me to remember repeats. And then i have a way of kind of remembering, okay, well, I've done this many repeats or I know where the repeats are like marked. So then I can just count the repeats themselves. And then I know my stitch count. Um, and yeah,
00:10:02
Speaker
It helps also that like, you know, I was a math teacher, like math was a huge part of my life for so long. And in order to learn how to teach kids math, I just had to do a really good deep dive into how to understand math in the first place from somebody who had not experienced it. So I learned a lot that I thought I already knew, but it turns out I didn't. So I've actually used a lot of those same techniques when it comes to doing my own design or when I'm working on any pattern. i'm Like, oh, okay. So I need multiples and factors. I need the least common multiple or these numbers to figure out how many repeats to do. Or I'm like, I'm using systems of equations in algebra to figure stuff out sometimes to be like, I need to figure out how big to make this underarm chain system of equations comes into play. And you're like, Oh, man. I have no idea how much algebra I have to go into to do an underarm chain on a sweater. Like, so, you know, or a different kind of chain on my shorts that goes between the legs, you know? Yeah. Wow. that That's
Techniques for Accurate Counting
00:11:05
Speaker
definitely a lot more math in fiber arts than I would have expected. But I guess that's kind of like par for the course with pattern design.
00:11:14
Speaker
um But like as far as like making stuff and counting while you're making stuff, like, do you find that you often lose count or are you like, do you care about count when you're making something or, you know, you recount stuff all the time? Like, how does it work like that?
00:11:33
Speaker
Okay, so ah when I'm just making it, like if it's not even the design part, I am pretty good about keeping count as I go. Or at least, at the very least, I just abandon counting if I know it's not important. Like if I'm on a big section and I'm like, I'm nowhere near the number of rows I need. So I know that I can mindlessly do this for a while and I don't have to worry about the count until I get closer. So, especially if I'm doing ribbing, I'm like...
00:11:57
Speaker
I know I need like a hundred rows and it's this far along there. I'm nowhere near a hundred. I can just keep mindlessly doing ribbing until it's much longer. So same thing. But I mean, I do also sometimes we'll like track rows with like little dots. Like I have a little system where it's like, I have the rows of dots that represent like different rows or whatever. And then I do lines that are split into groups of five. So I can count them by fives, five, 10, 15, 20. And then I can count the number of repeats as I do that. So it's like, and and it keeps a nice little record in like, well, book. Yes, that's what I do. But like for you, oh nice you're like not from the designer perspective, really. You're mostly from just making things that other people make. So do you use that strategy too? Do you do something else? Like how do you keep count if at all?
00:12:41
Speaker
Yeah, I do a lot of the like, you know, the mental counting, like you were saying, like you one stitch, one, two, three, four, especially if it's like a setup row.
00:12:52
Speaker
I'm like tuning everything else out and I'm just like one, two, three, to And like, that's the only thought going through my head. The only thing in my mind is the image of the number of whatever count I'm on.
00:13:07
Speaker
And actually the other day I noticed that I was able to like listen to music and maintain my count at the same time. So that was like a huge step for me. Oh, that's awesome.
00:13:18
Speaker
that's Impressive. Very good girl. Well, it's because what I was doing, instead of saying the number to myself, I was just focusing like very hard on visualizing in my head what number I was on. I just like picture the number one in my head. And then the next stitch, I picture the number two. And I just hold that image in my head so I can... like Really make sure that that count is not going anywhere. Because if i lose focus, then I lose the image in my head of what number I'm on. And if I'm not being like very active about it, then I'll forget.
00:13:57
Speaker
And then I'll be like... dang, like, I can't remember. I have to go back and count. And, ah you know, i I hate having to go back and count because it just seems like such a waste. and you know, I just want to knit. I just want to sit and knit and having to go back and count, especially if you lose count at, like, 200 or something. I'm like, gotta count 200? 200? know. That...
00:14:23
Speaker
oh yeah i know that That is fascinating that you're like literally picturing the number in your head. yeah Because I'm very visual, but I don't picture the number because I'm like, because of how visual I actually am, my mind will start filling in a bunch of random images and I can't keep track of that.
00:14:44
Speaker
so what I'll do is almost like chant to myself. So you're like counting it out loud. Doesn't help you. I'm like, I'm chanting the number over and over again. Like, especially if I'm counting like a row or a repeat, I'm like,
00:14:55
Speaker
one one, one, one, turn two, two, two, two. Like, like, you're like doing aerobics over there. Like one, two, three. Yes. Very good. Yes. Oh my God. And you're sitting there being like, like you're staring off into space. Like you're having a vision and you're like, the number one is forming. yeah It does. It appears literally, it's like a clip art image of the number in my head, you know, like one, like I literally see it in my head, in my mind.
00:15:32
Speaker
like not even like a fancy you're like it's a clip art and like you choose like a standard microsoft clip art like image in your head like a little it just sounds so so yeah silly and cute it's Well, I mean, it helps and it helps like when I don't feel like counting out loud, but I do sometimes supplement that ah with like muttering under my breath. Because like I said, sometimes I do need to say it out loud just so that I can personally hear it.
00:16:02
Speaker
Because hearing it is like another way of reinforcing what number I'm actually on. But I mean, all of that is kind of crazy that we do all of these insane methods just to count one, two, three, four, five, you know. But when you're doing fiber arts for some reason, that ability is just so tampered down that you have to like go way out of your way just to do a basic skill that we all have.
00:16:31
Speaker
i Like that is what is so bizarre. Like I love that that is, the this is why I actually, so I think you basically answered my question of earlier of, I'm like, do you think that this is just as challenging as almost anything else we do in fiber arts? And it's like, yes, because the numbers themselves determine so much of what the the eventual project is. It's like, if I'm off by even one stitch, sometimes that makes an impact and sometimes it doesn't, but like, When it does impact, it's noticeable, like in color work, or if you miss a cable stitch, or you're like, you're trying to do it, decreasing, and it's like, why is this off?
00:17:09
Speaker
And it always seems to be off by some of the same numbers. have you Have you ever done something where you're like, you've counted or recounted, and you're like, all right, I got 52. Now I have 51. now I have 53. Yes! okay well now i have fifty three yes Which one is it? it Like I've counted three different numbers. Like what is that? ah Yeah. no No, that happens to me all the
Inconsistencies and Frustrations in Counting
00:17:31
Speaker
time. And I'll count it once. And then I'm like, you know, sometimes like the stitches, they like slip on the, on the circular needle.
00:17:40
Speaker
Cause you just like have so many stitches on the table and then you're counting it. so much like it's signed a Yeah. hu Yeah, it does slip. And so then you're like, did I count that stitch or did I not count that stitch? I think I counted it. You get to the end, but then it's like,
00:17:57
Speaker
Like if I get to the end and my count isn't where it should be, then I'm like, dang, I got to count again. And then I count again and then it's right. But then I'm like, but the first time I counted was wrong.
00:18:09
Speaker
And then I counted again and somehow I got the right count. So is that right? Or was the first one right? So I need to count a third time. Now I'm counting the number of times I've counted. but That's a whole other layer.
00:18:23
Speaker
Yes. Yes.
00:18:26
Speaker
Oh my God. Yeah. That is like drives me insane. Oh yes. Like that is. And I'm, I can probably bet that everyone watching or listening to this is going to be like literally exactly the same experience. I don't think I've met a five-year voice that has not done that. So that's so funny that it's like, we literally all experienced that. It does not matter if you're a beginner or if you're advanced. It's like,
00:18:55
Speaker
Dang it. i have to recount this. And then, yeah, well, sometimes like what I'll also do is even when I've counted thrice and I'm like, okay, I've gotten the same number three times. I'm confident this is the right number.
00:19:08
Speaker
Work a couple more rows. Be like, okay, I'm going double check. I count. like, I'm off by one. Why am I off by one? So I undo the row and I'm like, all right, count, count, count, still off by one. Go back. still off by one. i'm like, how am I off by one? I literally counted and made all these rows and they're all off by one. So I'm like, I'm ripping all the way back to where I last counted. And I'm like, I still never figure out how I got off by one. I'm just like,
00:19:35
Speaker
I feel like it was the devil. The devil was working the magic into it against me. I was being cursed by one of my fiber arts enemies. um Probably. he is um yeah yeah probably needs Yes. um But yeah. And so like, you know what? It's fine. I'll just redo it. It's fine. And then I double check. like Okay. Now the number is fine. I don't know what I did wrong. I have no idea. yeah God, why is this so hard? Yeah.
00:19:59
Speaker
I think that's one thing, too, is like when the count is off and you don't know why, it just drives me insane because I'm like, I followed everything in the pattern.
00:20:11
Speaker
i'm I'm looking at the pattern. I can read the pattern and I can execute the pattern. And I have been. So why is the count wrong? Why? ah How could I have messed this up?
00:20:23
Speaker
The instructions are literally plain as day in front of my face, especially like consider a pattern designer like Stephen West. All his patterns are line by line, literally like it is spelled out for you.
00:20:37
Speaker
So when you lose count or like have inaccurate count on that, it's just like, This really feels like it's a me problem because I had every tool at my disposal and I still messed it up. Oh my God, yes. ah i'm just going to chalk it up to you just being stupid. I'm kidding. No, you're not stupid. Yeah, I mean, blonde, hey. You're the one who said that. I did not say that. I just want everyone to know don't cancel me because I did not make fun of blonde people. Andrew did. mean, i had I said I was blonde. You said I was stupid. So, I mean, that's true. That's true. I did. So if you want to cancel me because I insulted Andrew, that's fine. But you know what? It's better be careful what you wish for. Oh, no, no, I'm not. No, no, it's okay. It's okay. it's ah You know what? You're right. You are, you're the smart one and I'm the hot one. So we'll just all agree to that.
00:21:30
Speaker
We'll all agree to that. That's okay. I accept my role in this partnership here. So yes. And you can count the number of followers you'll lose because of that. it I will have like, what? Like, 1,900 followers that I have. So many.
00:21:51
Speaker
And how many do you have? Soon be 1,800, bitch. my God. Yes! You know, when you lose followers, that just means that you you made that much of an impact. So I will. Yeah, but there you go. And it's a whole new opportunity to start from scratch. Okay, mister, I have no idea how many, what is it? 14, 15, 20, 30, 50, how many, how many followers do you have? Like it was speaking of counting. How many followers do you have again?
00:22:20
Speaker
Well, on Instagram, I have like 26 K at the moment, almost 27, I think. No, it's. Oh, well, I don't know. By the time this airs, maybe 27. I don't know. Mostly all thanks to that one. um Actually, that steaking sweater. Most of my following came from that one video. which is like really crazy and very relevant to this because actually yeah in that sweater, you have to maintain count because it's like a fair isle color work sweater.
00:22:51
Speaker
And I didn't even realize until I got to the end of that sweater that I hella messed up the count a couple times. Like there are some of the stripes on that sweater that are completely wrong. They don't match the pattern at all.
00:23:07
Speaker
And we got I was like, well, I'm already finished, so I'm not, it's not worth it to go back and fix it. Like, it's not going to happen. So this is just my own, like, creative spin on the sweater, I guess.
00:23:22
Speaker
Oh, well, clearly it didn't have an impact because you have your little 26, almost 27 K, which I guess is impressive. ah I guess. so love you were like oh On Instagram, it's this is like, well, on YouTube, it's this. And it's like, and I don't know. Yes, that's true. Yes.
00:23:42
Speaker
You know, as far as counting goes, I think it's definitely a skill that we can work on ah because that whole thing I said earlier about numbers appearing in my head, That wasn't always the case. Like that's something I'm working on right now so that I can like really try and maintain count.
00:23:59
Speaker
um Because like you said, it is really important for certain patterns. But in other instances, it's not as important. Like if you are just doing like the body of a sweater or something, if you're off by one stitch, it doesn't matter.
00:24:13
Speaker
If you're doing a mosaic knitting pattern, yeah, every stitch needs to be in the right place. Otherwise, you're it's going to be off. So a lot of times what I'll do is I'll make sure that my count is good for the places it needs to be good.
00:24:28
Speaker
Then I go into my mindless knitting, do whatever, you know. And then before I get to the next section, like even on a sweater, for the bear sweater that I made,
00:24:39
Speaker
I for the body, I wasn't counting at all. But then right before I was about to do the ribbing, I was like, I need to make sure that I have an even number of stitches because I'm doing ribbing. yeah And if I don't have an even number, it's going to look really weird. It's going to be like one extra fat rib or something. Or I don't even know how that would look because it's going to be like two knits and two pearls or something. You know what I mean?
00:25:02
Speaker
like right It needs to be a a one by one. So like, then I'll count again right before I need to. And then if it's off by one, then just, you know, make one and or no two together. And there you go. Off by one the first time or the second time or the third time you count.
00:25:22
Speaker
Yeah, that is true. that Because you got to be accurate there. Because if you start the ribbing and you realize that your count was actually wrong and you had the right number in the first place and you knit two together, like now you have to undo it all and then go back. Oh, yeah.
00:25:40
Speaker
Yeah, no, that makes sense. And i I get what you mean by that, because I actually kind of do something similar to that. Like I didn't always I used to think I had to count everything to make sure it stayed accurate the whole time. oh and then eventually I started realizing i was like, no, I can't do that. Like, that's just too much work. And it doesn't matter in the end. And I know there are people who are like that. They're like, no, I've got to like, they're obsessed with the stitch count. They're like, well, i need 115 in the body. And it's like, but I have 116. And sixteen and i'm like, OK, so the no. Yeah. you said Just join you together or like, you know, like, um I don't know, just to increase or decrease one thing and it's going to be just fine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Also. 100%. Yes. Exactly. 100% numbers. Okay. um
00:26:31
Speaker
Sorry. Anytime I'm mentioning any kind of number or measurement thing, I'm like, oh yeah, there we go.
Personal Systems for Tracking Counts
00:26:35
Speaker
Okay. um like you like We're developing the the image stuff. Like the number in your head, the road tracking that I did where it's like, you know, groups of five and whatnot. Like that was also something I developed, I think out of necessity because i used to just checkmark things on a printed pattern. But now I don't print patterns anymore. It's all digital. And I refuse yeah to do something like knit companion. i don't like it. It's just crazy. A lot of people love it. They live by it. love being able to track and all that stuff. I'm like, I don't want it. It's just I don't like the digital. I like the feel of the paper. I like the writing. I like the notes that I can take on it a little bit more easily.
00:27:12
Speaker
So that's where I came up with, like well, if I'm going to track it, I got myself little like kind of pretty notebooks. And I'm like, I don't want to do check marks or messy things or anything like that. so I was like, I'll just do little dots. And I was like, oh, that kind of looks really cool, like a little code or a pattern in and of itself.
00:27:27
Speaker
And so my road tracker book actually kind of became its own little piece of artwork and like wow a record of my projects. So even just like my method of counting became a part of my fiber arts journey. So was like, oh, wow, that's actually kind of nice. I really like like,
00:27:47
Speaker
And because I set up the system deliberately, like I had no, i I didn't go in planning it that way. I was like, this will just be easy for me to track. So I'm like, instead of a bunch of dots, I'm breaking it up into fives, like tally marks. And there we go.
00:27:59
Speaker
And I use that same system literally for every row tracking that I do. So every pattern has the exact same setup. So I'm never messed up if I'm tracking, unless I forget to draw a dot when I'm done with the row. Well, that's what I was going to say. anyway Is that like, oh yeah, so like at the end of every row, you like put down the hook and like do a mark or something and then go back and...
00:28:26
Speaker
Yes, ah because like it's kind of almost ingrained like when you do a chain up of one and turn that method. It's like, oh, OK, well, before I do that, I train myself to like, I need to mark this.
00:28:38
Speaker
Then I do my chain up and turn. or herberber quirk All right, mark, chain up, turn. did it did it do Mark. I see. like It just becomes part of the routine um to do that, especially if I'm doing a design where the number does need to matter because I'm like trying to make sure I'm putting the right number in the pattern. I'm like, right did I actually calculate this correctly? Did it actually take 20 rows to do this? Or am I completely crazy? Like, so, you know. Yeah.
00:29:05
Speaker
Yeah. Who knew that we could be able to talk this long about counting? ah Well, I was counting on us being able to talk for this long, so...
00:29:18
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you yeah Oh, there's like so much counting that goes on in fiber arts. And like when you start off as a baby knitter or crocheter, you're not thinking like, oh, I can't wait to start
Importance of Accurate Counting in Specific Projects
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counting. Like you're like, oh, I can't wait to have my first scarf. I can't wait to be like in the knitting world.
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But then once you get in the knitting world, it's like, oh, like I really need to actually practice counting and like keeping count like that. And you, you know, even if you're not into it when you first start, like you eventually want to because you want the pattern to work, you know? so it's like as you get better, you get ah you understand the importance more and more of counting ah all your stitches and rows and motifs and all of that.
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Yeah. and also even determining what is worth counting and what's not worth counting. Like, like you said, like when it becomes critical to make sure you're counting and getting a correct number versus when it's like, it's not that big of a deal. Um, cause you're right. Like even in something like a sweater, if the body is just one solid piece, it's like whatever. But if it's a mosaic pattern or a cabled pattern, you're like the counting does kind of matter on that. So yeah.
00:30:32
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Yeah. Yeah. Like, so it's, it's, it's just so fascinating that it's like, that's another one of those things where you're not taught that you're not taught. yeah You are taught how to count at some point in your life. You're not taught how to count.
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I hope so. Um, Yeah, um but like, it's amazing to me that it's like when you're doing fiber arts, no one thinks you have to teach someone how to count their stitches. But you really actually do. um Because like I know in crochet, a lot of people will be like, how do I know that I have the right number of stitches? They can't look at it and see.
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If they've got the right number. So I'm like having to show them, here's how you count a stitch and crochet. then you're like, oh, okay, that sounds good. But then they'll still get to the end of their row and be like, how is my scarf turning into this? And it's like, how did I go from 25 stitches to four?
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And I'm like, did you not realize that maybe you were a little bit off? Like, yeah sometimes you don't even need to count. You can just see the number not right. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Well, maybe we should another episode on that about like fiber arts intuition, like understanding what's going wrong. Okay. Let's make note of that. Yes, everyone.
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All of our listeners, you need to remind us that this is a topic we've talked about and we need to put it on our ideal list about, you know, fiber arts intuition because goodness knows we have a hard time keeping numbers in our head. We're not going to remember this.
00:31:57
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