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EPISODE 12: WEEK 7 RECAP & DYNASTY REALITY CHECK
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The crew runs through week 7 of the NFL season and then provides a reality check on players that we have changed our opinions on based on the first half of the dynasty season so far.
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Transcript
Introduction of Hosts
00:00:07
Speaker
Welcome to the nonstop fantasy weekly dynasty podcast. We are here with your hosts, Dave Reed, Ray Wilkinson, and Joey Gallo. Welcome in to the NSFW dynasty podcast.
Week 7 NFL Recap and Player Updates
00:00:29
Speaker
We are back week seven in the books. I'm your host, Dave Reed, joined by my co-host, Ryan Wilkerson and Joey Gallo.
00:00:40
Speaker
We can't believe we're already heading to week eight of the NFL season the official for the fantasy Regular season most weeks you play till week 14. We're at the midpoint of the season. It's crazy to think we're halfway through You start seeing which teams are looking like they're gonna start selling for dynasty which teams are doubling down and
00:00:59
Speaker
We had a couple watching for trades in our league, which we'll get into later. Um, but yeah, with the, now that's the midpoint where we're going to run into later in this pod, we're going to kind of give a little reality check on the players that have, uh, we've changed our opinions on throughout season, but we'll get into that.
00:01:15
Speaker
Before kind of want to run through some of the happenings that happened in week seven No, it wasn't the the bloodbath that was week six with like season ending injuries But there were some pretty significant injuries that happened. So initial on Deshawn Watson final was clear to play
00:01:33
Speaker
Then he wasn't, and then he was, and then he decided not to play again. He looked like he had a concussion potential on a horrible, horrible throw before the concussion that should have been intercepted. He was clear to play after the concussion, but they went with PJ Walker. Honestly, he just looks off, and he's already been rolled out for week eight.
00:01:54
Speaker
That one's ugly one. We got DK Metcalf was a late scratch due to his hip and I think like two or three other injuries potentially. But JSN did take advantage and got a score that week. Jalen Waddle had like back spasms. He was in and out, literally the whole game. But he still got six for 63, but only had about 45% of the snaps.
Impact of Injuries on Strategies
00:02:15
Speaker
Christian Watson left with a knee. He should be okay, but he's always banged up to something to kind of monitor. Barkley hyperextended his elbow for a bit, which terrified me because his arm was dangling, but he was able to get back in and had a pretty big game. Echler tweaked his ankle, played, but didn't look himself. Honestly, I'm starting a little more expectations of what his output is going to be.
00:02:36
Speaker
Jerome Ford had a huge touchdown run to start the game, but ended up with a low-grade high ankle sprain, which is a weird thing to say. But he'll probably be out a couple weeks. John Hurts hurt his knee. He said Ed was wearing a brace, but he should be OK. Godwin is dealing with neck injury, but should be able to play this Thursday. Dawson Knox is going under wrist surgery and will be out for quite a bit. So it's Dalton Kincaid time. Wheels up for him.
00:03:06
Speaker
Luke Musgrave had an ankle injury. He may miss a week or two. Ryan Hennahill has already been ruled out for week eight coming out of the by. So Malik Willis and potentially both Levis might be playing. We'll see how that goes. And Fields has already been ruled out for week eight. So Tyson Badgent, who got the win, he apparently was the Heisman of Division II football, whatever the name of that award is. But he got the win and looked pretty good.
00:03:35
Speaker
Yeah. A lot of, uh, minor injuries, some that are out a week or two, but, uh, what are your guys's view or biggest takeaways
Backup QBs and Team Dynamics
00:03:42
Speaker
from these? Yeah, I think just a couple that I'd highlight, you know, the, the bigger names. So Jalen hurts, you know, wore a knee brace and was able to play the rest of the game, but it's definitely not something you want to see from one of the top quarterbacks. And then Barkley, like you said, you know, looked like his arm was dangling, but he ended up
00:04:01
Speaker
going back in and playing and having a big game. So it seems like he's going to be okay there. And then the last one you touched on, I just think is interesting fields ruled out again, we're going to get to see bagging again, and he looked pretty good and he was kind of fun to watch. Honestly, he was, you know, seemed to be pretty into the game, was trying to pump up the crowd and whatnot when I saw him. So we'll see if he can pull off another win and
00:04:27
Speaker
Who knows what happens there? Fields has been great fantasy wise, but hasn't been able to win in real life. And then, you know, division two quarterback. I think he's the only division two quarterback in like the entire NFL. Yeah, crazy. So that's an interesting one to keep an eye on, too. Yeah, I'm tempering my expectations on Badgin. I feel like his his yards per attempt yards per completion numbers were
00:04:54
Speaker
quite low and Deonta Foreman really, really dominated surprisingly. The Russian game was really nice
Player Performance Analysis
00:05:03
Speaker
for Chicago. So we'll see what he can, we'll see. It'll, it'll be good to see him get a little bit of a stiffer test this upcoming weekend. I think it was more though he was able to get them down the field to do the end zone for him to get it in there, you know?
00:05:18
Speaker
Yeah, they put 30 points like that. Yeah. Yeah. He's taking every snap. The ball's in his hand at some point. So I'll give him credit for not losing the game. Yeah, but I didn't see what you were talking about, John. I think it was like 17 yards was like either the longest pass or the average pass or something. Yeah, the longest pass. Yeah, it was super low. Yeah. And then, yeah, it hurts.
00:05:40
Speaker
Hurts is interesting. There was a play in that first half where he was running towards the sideline, and it looked like he was limping. And I didn't know if I was making it up in my head. Nobody said anything about it on the broadcast. And I'm just kind of like, is that the way he runs? And then he came out at halftime with the brace on. I mean, I'm sure they're not making a big deal of it. But for somebody who is constantly getting crushed up at the bottom of piles,
00:06:07
Speaker
how much of their offense relies upon his ability to move. It's probably something worth looking at. Ekler was concerning for me as well. I mean, he hobbled off pretty good after the tweak, and I was concerned he wasn't going to see the field again. So I was happy to see him back out there in the second half, but it was just a weird game for the Chargers altogether. They just like, they
00:06:32
Speaker
The whole second half of that game was weird, like the both. It's like no score. Yeah, I looked really good in the first half. And then if you're in the over, you must have been pissed. I don't even think it hit, but it was like, yeah, trending in the first half. Yeah. Yeah. And D.K., D.K., my cat sucked. I mean, I had him in my I had him in my draft Kings lineup against you guys. And I also had him in my starting lineup in our league.
00:07:00
Speaker
And, you know, he's been, he's been limited at practice. It was kind of like one of those, like, I got lulled into a sense of security by the fact that like for two or three weeks now, he's been limited in practice because he had that rib injury. And, um, I didn't even bother paying any attention to it on game day because it was like, yeah, well, of course he's questionable because he's still nursing the rib. Uh, and then by the time he was ruled out, it was not much that could be done for either the draft Kings lineup or the
00:07:31
Speaker
Uh, or the NSFW lineup. So that was unfortunate, but it seems like he's trending towards being back this week. I saw the update on sleeper right before we came on that he was, his designation was updated to healthy. So hopefully he's good. Yeah. And, uh, speaking of
Falcons' Strategy and Performance
00:07:46
Speaker
that, uh, draft Kings lineup, uh, Harrison, who was on the pod last week, he had a very good showing. He ended up beating two of the three podcasters that we have here.
00:07:56
Speaker
But he could not take me down. I rode Kelsey's 12 catches for 179 yards and a touchdown to victory. I paid out for that guy, made it a point. First guy was putting my line up, and that was the difference maker for me. And as Joey mentioned, he did come in last. It doesn't help when you have one of your more expensive wide receivers just not ply.
00:08:18
Speaker
That was unfortunate. We also do, do this earlier in the week and they're locked. So not really much you could have done there. Um, so unfortunate job, but yeah, I mean, beyond, beyond Metcalf, right? Like I'd be the first to admit if this was, this was a horrific line, horrific, horrific, horrific. Zach Evans, uh, was my husband who also, uh, goose and.
00:08:48
Speaker
Hollywood Brown didn't do much. No, he didn't. It doesn't make any sense. And we'll talk about my thoughts on Darryl Henderson in a little bit. But he looks like so freaking slow and washed up. And he's getting off the carries. He's just like lumbering his way into the line. Right off the couch. Yeah. Like why is he out there? I just like it. Literally, I just have no patience for it at all. But the reality of the situation is, McVeigh said that Zach Evans is not
00:09:17
Speaker
He's not ready. He needs to spend more time learning the playbook, learning the blitz pickup schemes. Honestly, I think Evan's career is already over. If you're getting Darryl Henderson coming off the bench to play a heading, you don't get a snap, that's not a good look. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Not at all. So yeah, I mean, it was a bad lineup objectively, but we'll be back next time. Yeah.
00:09:43
Speaker
Well, do we have to avenge? My lineup was actually decent, but I got a goose from Jameson Williams, which killed me. Which will happen most times you start Jameson. Yeah. Because the guy cannot catch. That went to Norcat. He had six targets, but, uh, yeah, he came out with zero six. So that's what I'm saying. He cannot catch. It doesn't matter. That was a bad game script the entire time I had. That's why I played Amun-Ra and he had what? Like a hundred catches in that game. Uh, even Gibbs had a ton, but Jamell.
00:10:13
Speaker
I mean, speaking of that, we can jump into Darryl Henderson and Royce Freeman. These guys, it was announced later in the week that Zach Evans may not be the guy. It was weird how it came into it. They were signing Royce, they may bring in Darryl Henderson.
00:10:35
Speaker
And it was like, oh, these are just depth guys that need them. Then it sort of be like, Evans doesn't seem like the lead back. He may be Henderson and Royce. And then like, everyone's kind of like placing their bets, which one they ended up, who's going to be a starter. Ended up being Henderson, but who had a solid game, not an effective game. He went 18 for 61 in a score. And Bryce Reitman was actually a bit more effective going 12 rushes for 66 yards.
00:10:59
Speaker
Uh, but both of these guys look like potential starting options, but, um, maybe not the prettiest, but who knows? McVeigh just loves his type of guys. And if you fit his system, he's just going to give you the ball. Yeah. I was going to say this backfield has just been unbelievable. It literally started out the year where everyone was like cam acres is the guy, like no doubt
Mid-Season Player Reassessments
00:11:17
Speaker
about it. Then Karen Williams comes out of nowhere. He's the guy. He goes down. Zach Evans is the guy. And now it's like rice Freeman's a guy. Then Daryl Henderson's the guy. It's crazy.
00:11:29
Speaker
Yeah, I just I can't help but to think they need explosiveness coming from somebody in the backfield, right? Like they signed Miles Gaskin. Yeah, he was he was inactive this past week. And, you know, like trying to be completely unbiased here, like removing myself from the fantasy world where I have Zach Evans all over the place. If you don't think that Evans is ready, then inactive him and
00:11:58
Speaker
get Miles Gaskin out there for like a change of pat change of pace like receiving back like some running back who looks like they aren't running with sand like bags tied to their ankles.
00:12:10
Speaker
I think they would probably roll this week, too. I think it's just Gaskin came in late. But Evans is clearly going to be a healthy strip. I hope so, just so that I can drop him from my lineups and move on. And also, because I think I have Miles Gaskin in three different dynasty leagues. Unbiased bot here. Truthfully, get somebody out there who has any sort of burst whatsoever.
00:12:38
Speaker
These are like, Darrell Henderson and Royce Freeman are the same guy, except Royce's two or three, maybe not even two or three, maybe one year younger. And they're the same back. They've had plenty of opportunity. And it's, it's, it's fine. Like they're just fine. They're not great. But they're fine.
00:12:56
Speaker
It's kind of how I view Kyron. None of these guys are especially talented, but if McVey trusts you, the role is so valuable, you're going to do well. And I'm not saying Kyron is as bad as them because he's younger, but I think that younger versions of Royce and Daryl are probably the same as Kyron. Yeah, I would agree with that. That's the difference for sure. Yeah.
00:13:18
Speaker
you know, you have like probably most human running backs, exceptions have like two to four years of NFL, legitimate burst, even Saquon, like you can like he has some burst, but he's got that like old guy lumbering burst by now. Well, he also was like injured every play. Yeah, just terrifies me.
00:13:38
Speaker
It was back out there. But a couple other key players that, in Dynasty, you're probably keeping an eye on more. We had Rishi Rice. It's starting to look good. It's a rookie. So anytime you start seeing a rookie, special wide receiver tied to potentially a strong quarterback, start getting excited. So he's starting to really look nice. He went 5 for 16 to touchdown. And they need someone to kind of step up in that wide receiver group. You had?
00:14:06
Speaker
I think that's the thing with him, right? We've been talking all season that there's no receivers there and someone needs to step up and whoever steps up there is going to obviously have a super valuable role behind Kelsey. So if he's now the guy, that's huge value there. And he has burst too. So like if he, if he starts getting more trust, he can definitely do some special things there.
00:14:29
Speaker
Um, you had, uh, finally, uh, you had the Ravens offense just explode. They looked great. Um, it was an unfortunate play against Lamar and one of my other leagues where I had also Deontay who dominated and didn't matter. I lost by a point because Lamar went crazy, went through for 357 and three touchdowns and ran for another 36 in the score. Andrews had two touchdowns.
00:14:52
Speaker
like everything they were doing was working. There was one play where I think Lamar ran around for like 10 seconds before throwing a touchdown. It was the most ridiculous thing, something only he could do. And it was like a statement game against the Lions who everyone has been kind of hyping up. So that was kind of an interesting game to see. You saw
00:15:11
Speaker
Josh Palmer, so stepping up for the Chargers, he did his best Keenan act. He won five for 133. And this, again, is another death wide receiver. Most people probably had on their benches coming into the dynasty season,
Quarterback Surprises and Disappointments
00:15:25
Speaker
and now you got yourself a pretty solid wide receiver flex option. And then the Monday night game,
00:15:33
Speaker
Kirk Cousins, prime time Kirk Cousins, is a new version of himself. Granted, some of these passes looked real bad. He should have had another pick that turned into a touchdown because Addison ripped it from him. But big night for him. But overall, you saw a huge game from Addison, who had seven for 123, two touchdowns. TJ Hockinson was just a reception machine, 11 for 86. And you even saw a guy who was in waivers earlier this season, and Brendan Powell.
00:16:00
Speaker
get some good looks. You went four for 86 and could be a pretty involved weapon going forward until JJ is back. And finally, the Giants that get their win, defense looks legit, and Waller finally had a huge game. So it's good to see it across the board. But any other takeaways from these games?
00:16:21
Speaker
The one other team that just continues to defy the odds and every single week, I still can't wrap my head around the fact that the Atlanta Falcons have a winning record.
00:16:35
Speaker
They're constantly in these games. And I don't know if it's a reflection of the fact that their schedule has been maybe a little on the soft side. And they've only been facing this past week, it was Tampa Bay and Washington. And before that, the Texans and the Jaguars and the Lions and the Packers and the Panthers. Honestly, the Lions maybe are the only above average team they faced.
00:16:59
Speaker
The entire season but you know, like it's just every single week there I'm always finding them in games and I'm also just frustrated by the fact that they it almost seems like Arthur Smith's approach of not using his best players and
00:17:19
Speaker
Uh, it like just works, you know, like it's, it's a very frustrating cause you want be John Robinson's touch the ball more. You want Kyle Pitts to be more involved. And yet at the same time, he's not involving them and they're winning. So I understand they have, uh, on above average defense, but.
00:17:36
Speaker
you know, that they just continue to be from like a fantasy perspective, just a real enigma and a frustration for me trying to anticipate who on their offense is reliable to do anything when every single one of their games is the same script. It's like a game in played within like the 10 to 21 point range. And, you know, you can almost guarantee that when we've reached the witching hour, you know, Atlanta is either going to be up or down.
00:18:06
Speaker
You know, four points, three points, 16 to three, 14 to 10. And there's a bunch of turnovers involved. I feel like it's the same game every week, but... Right. Witching Hour is basically just you're watching the Falcons game. I digress. It just goes right into it. It's just becoming frustrating. And hopefully it'll be nice to see them. I think, I mean, they play Tennessee this week, but then after that, I mean, they might have the easiest schedule in the entire week. They are very...
00:18:35
Speaker
potentially a playoff team, which is going to like that to your point, like it's just validating Arthur Smith's game plan. Uh, like people can criticize it all much as like, I'm winning. Like, what are you going to do about it? And that means it's more and more likely to potentially writer as a quarterback again, because they're not drafting one. And I think we spoke about that a week or two ago. Um, but there are two, there are records too good to draft a quarterback. It's wild. They're favored in all but one.
00:19:05
Speaker
They're not a bad team. They're just 3D for fantasy. They actually have talent. We've talked about their players a lot. But like Joe said, you don't know who's going to hit every week. As a giant fan, do you know how jealous I am of this town? I wish we had that town. They have a lot of talent. It's just they don't use it in a way where it's
00:19:28
Speaker
dynamic and flashy and attractive from a fantasy perspective you know it's like I honestly feel like Arthur Smith gets mad most times the GM drafts another talented players like come on or just one like offensive lineman and running it in a game of running backs like no that guy's too talented I want the fourth rounder who's just really big in Algier
00:19:52
Speaker
Stinks. I know. But with that being said, we're going to move to our next segment. We're going to break down, as I mentioned, halfway through the fantasy regular season. You go to each season with a lot of expectations of what you think players are going to be and storylines you make up in your head and what you want to buy into. And at this point,
00:20:12
Speaker
Some of those came to fruition, but some of them don't. You kind of have to do a reality check on yourself. You got to stay water. You can't be stuck in your way of thinking that that's where you end up losing value on players or missing out. So you have to start changing your views on these players based on the facts and the stats that you have in front of you.
00:20:27
Speaker
So with that, we're each going to go through a player at each of the key positions.
Running Back Performance Review
00:20:31
Speaker
And I'll talk about a player that we've changed our opinion on, whether it be for the good or for the worse. Did their situation change? Did their play is better than what we thought it was? They're not being used in a certain way. Or maybe we just evaluated the talent wrong. But with that, going to jump in. And, Ray, you have an interesting one. I think we'll get people very riled up for a quarterback first. I want you to start off. Yeah.
00:20:53
Speaker
Yeah, definitely a bit of a controversial one, I'm sure. And before we even get to it, I'm not saying that, you know, this guy is bad by any means, but I do think, you know, this season has to be talked about. And, you know, I went with Joe Burrow in a negative way. And I don't even know if I have one thing to point to in terms of, you know, a situation or, you know,
00:21:20
Speaker
anything that has really changed other than, I guess, his injury. But he sat out most of August and people still drafted him as a top five QB top seven, probably at worst. And if you got him as like the sixth or seventh quarterback, you're probably pretty pumped. And, you know, someone told you prior to the season, he was going to suit up week one and play 100% of every game through seven weeks. You'd be expecting, you know, top five fantasy season. And he's currently the QB 26 on the season.
00:21:49
Speaker
Only 32 teams. Now, he did have a buy in week seven, so that's part of the reason. But even if you look at it on points per game, he's only averaging 14 points per game that he's played in. Doesn't sound terrible, but it's in the same range as Deshaun Watson, Jimmy Garoppolo, Kenny Pickett, Bryce Young, Derek Carr, and Matt Jones. Matt Jones, who we've talked about many times, he's had two negative fantasy weeks.
00:22:19
Speaker
And I think one that was like a zero or a one point week, he only is averaging one point less than Joe Burrow on the season. So, you know, he just had a buy, comes back in week eight. Week six, though, he only had 185 passing yards. So I just got to throw it out there. Like, is there any concern for you guys that he's not this top
00:22:42
Speaker
five option that we thought he was? How long do you blame the injury? Does he get a pass this whole season? Or if he comes back from the bye and he's still putting up mediocre numbers, are you worried?
00:22:54
Speaker
Yeah, I mean I will say if it still lingers beyond the bye then I'm concerned I will the beginning this season especially a lot of those like low point scores He had were the first few weeks of the year and it was it was bad It looked like I think he did have a setback. So it was like really bad. The one good game was against the cards and
00:23:13
Speaker
And just like you hope then he had the weak athlete game. He had to buy a week off, get rested, get right. If it's not, he's not going to get healthier this year unless they make him sit a week or two. So I'm optimistic he's going to be better going forward. And I'm believing it. But I wouldn't say it's a lot. I wouldn't say I'm not nervous. I'm very interested to see how he does this week.
00:23:42
Speaker
I don't think it's talent. It's not talent, it's not weapons. It's literally just the injury. But that being said, for this year, if this is an injury that's going to last a whole year, then you have to change your expectations for what you're going to get out of them. Yeah, that's how I feel too. I think the answer is different for me from a redraft or this season perspective, my worry on a scale of 1 to 10.
00:24:06
Speaker
is maybe, uh, six or six and a half and a couple weeks ago, a couple weeks ago, it would have been higher, but the mobility in, uh, during the Arizona game, his ability to throw the ball downfield in the Arizona game.
00:24:24
Speaker
Um, like I guess if we're, we're not questioning the talent, I'm certainly not questioning the talent from a dynasty standpoint, my worry is a zero. I have no concerns at all. So, you know, if it's just a matter of him getting back up to game speed, getting comfortable, getting his legs back under him, getting through the injury. I think what I saw week five was gave me enough confidence to say that I'm expecting.
Emerging Wide Receivers
00:24:51
Speaker
him to come out. I mean, the matchup against San Francisco is absolutely brutal this week. But um, you know, and their schedule like it doesn't do him favors after that, right? It's like San Francisco. Yeah, Baltimore. So I'm not necessarily saying that he's a trade for especially in redraft. But
00:25:11
Speaker
I think we'll see a lot more of the true Joe Burrow from this point forward. I think the injury was really screwing him up. Hopefully, I love watching him play.
00:25:35
Speaker
I've been almost got more swag. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You definitely hope it's the injury and hopefully, you know, this bi-week he comes back and is himself, but just had to throw it out there.
00:25:46
Speaker
Yeah, no, it's a, it's a good point. And it's, I mean, Joe and I in a different dynasty league did buy him, um, not super cheap, but we, we got it. Like we needed to run it back. So we got burrow and cook for basically Lamar, which in that league, the way the passing scoring works, burrow actually scores just as much if not more than Lamar most weeks. But, uh,
00:26:07
Speaker
It wasn't without concern. We had at the time a healthy Anthony Richardson, so we felt better at the time, then immediately he goes down. But anyway, moving forward to a positive view for me, I'll jump in. Is Baker Mayfield...
00:26:23
Speaker
I've changed my opinion on him in a very positive way. Going into the season, I wasn't even sure Baker was going to be starting for the Bucks. We saw all those hilarious camp battle videos of him and Trask just straight up missing wide open wide receivers. And I was viewing Baker in like startup draft of like QB 28 to 34 range, which in like dynasty super flex, you're like, you're just snagging this guy because you're afraid of not having a third quarterback.
00:26:50
Speaker
That's the only reason you're grabbing them and you're fully expecting that they probably lose their job in this mid season. And I was so down on Baker that I was like down on all the position players like Mike Evans, who is another player who has looked a lot better, but partially because Baker has been pretty competent.
00:27:08
Speaker
And like, honestly, right now, no one is mistaking Baker for someone who's going to fulfill that first overall NFL draft pick expectations. But at the age 28, he's seemingly trying to figuring it out to be a competent quarterback and so on. I'm totally fine with now rolling out as my QB too. He's basically what you were hoping Derek R or Geno Smith were going to be for your team. And he hasn't just helped in dynasty and fantasy. He's also helped the,
00:27:32
Speaker
Bucks be a pretty competitive team. They're sitting at three three and could push for the division title He is gonna be a free agent at the end of the season So you don't really know what his status is gonna be beyond this so that's a little bit of doubt But honestly if he keeps playing this way the rest of the year There's gonna be a team that gives him another contract and gives him a shot especially if they make the playoffs so obviously
00:27:57
Speaker
This is someone you didn't have a full confidence that you were going to be able to start beyond week 10. And now I'm like, this is a great debt piece. If I haven't missed QB2, I feel I'm pretty good. And he potentially will even be playing next year. So I changed my outlook on a good old Baker.
00:28:13
Speaker
Yeah, and for him, maybe it's even situation, right? He's bounced around a bit. He was on the Browns and the Rams. Now he's on the Bucks. And maybe he finally figures it out on the Bucks. And maybe part of his issue was just the other teams that he was on a little bit. But yeah, we've talked about him a couple of times on here. I think his value has gone way up compared to what you thought it was before the season. So it's been pretty fun to watch.
00:28:38
Speaker
Yeah, and it's funny that you mentioned that he's basically what you hoped you were getting with Derek Carr because Derek Carr is actually my pick here for who I've changed my opinion on from the start of the season at the quarterback position.
00:28:56
Speaker
It's just been, it's been disgusting to watch. I think that there are, and it's so, it's so surprising because throughout his entire career with the Raiders, Oakland Vegas Raiders, anytime their offense was out there like,
00:29:15
Speaker
They were dynamic, they were downfield threat. He was a great deep ball thrower. There was just like a lot of pizzazz to the Raiders offense with Derek Carr leading it. And now with the Saints, it almost seems like he's become maybe the most volume dependent quarterback in the entire league. Two QB one performances on the season.
00:29:43
Speaker
They happened to come in the last two weeks, and they happened to come on the back of 55 and 50 pass attempt games. Only one time this season has had multiple touchdown passes, and that was in week five at New England. Twice he has zero touchdown passes, and unfortunately,
00:30:06
Speaker
It's affecting the Saints offense. And it's also affecting the value of Chris Olave, who is a dynamic downfield receiver. And it just feels like Carr is not able to utilize Olave in a way that he was able to be utilized in his rookie season, which is tough because you thought when Carr was coming in that it was going to be an upgrade, right? Like going in the whole offseason. I mean, I was grabbing Carr.
00:30:36
Speaker
You know, as like a late round, dark throw and redraft and kind of hoping, you know, he could be a guy that you could throw out there as an every week starter, given the weapons that they have in, in New Orleans, but hasn't worked out. And, you know, we'll, we'll, I think we're going to talk a little bit about, uh, Alvin Camaro later, but it's perfect example, uh, Kamara's usefulness or utility and how great he's been. It's just a reflection of the fact that, um,
00:31:05
Speaker
He's just a, Derek Carr has become like a dump off machine. And he just, he's checking it down at, to Kamara at an absolutely alarming rate. So tough to watch. QB one, two out of seven weeks on a team that's constantly in a negative game script. Just not what you want.
00:31:23
Speaker
Yeah, it's hard to throw downfield to Olave when you're checking down to Kumar 20 times a game, which is absolutely crazy. But I think that's a good segue to Ryan. Let's get into the running backs. Yeah, I was going to say that my first comment is the two QB1 performances that Carr had that Joe mentioned, they still only resulted in 11 and 13 fantasy points.
00:31:46
Speaker
it's definitely been very brutal for him but yes speaking of you know running backs i did go with camara as my you know good sort of
00:31:58
Speaker
positive change in outlook.
Tight End Standouts
00:32:01
Speaker
Obviously, he had the three-week suspension, but I feel like there wasn't a ton of talk about him pre-season. He's 28, so I think that combined with the suspension left a lot of people questioning if he would still be a top fantasy running back. And all he's done is rip off 15, 17, 14, and 23 points since returning. He's already the RB 19 on the season, and that's with zero points the first three weeks.
00:32:25
Speaker
He looks really good still, and he's getting a full workload. Like Joe mentioned, he's getting a ton of check down from cars. He had 14 targets last week, caught 12 of them. So 12 catches for 91 yards from a running back is pretty sweet and fantasy. He's probably one of the target leaders in the NFL over the past four weeks. Yeah, crazy. Literally, he has 14, 8, 3, and 14. So two 14 target games.
00:32:54
Speaker
Um, you know, people were also talking a lot about the rookie Miller taking over or Jamal Williams stealing some touchdowns, but neither of those has happened since, uh, you know, Camara has come back in a points per game basis since he's returned to his RB seven. So for where he was drafted, especially in redraft, uh, you got a lot of value there. If you didn't care about the suspension. And he looks good too. You know, like quite the opposite of car who looks like.
00:33:24
Speaker
Something's wrong, right? Like Kamara looks like he has more bursts than he did last year. I know there was like some weird stuff going on with the injury that he had last year. And there was more confidence going into this season that maybe he would be his old self. And that's kind of how he looked. He looks explosive. He's making guys miss again. He's fun to watch. So I've loved everything I've seen from Kamara.
00:33:47
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, when you can dump it down to him for a three-yard pass. Yeah, I do it. That's what cards are meant on it. 14 times a day. But Joe, why don't you jump into someone who doesn't really catch that many passes, but at least not as much as Kamar. Catch his euro pass. This is actually the polar opposite. So I'm going with Bryan Robinson. And, you know, my opinion of Bryan Robinson, it's kind of been like an absolute roller coaster because I was
00:34:17
Speaker
I was so out on him in the offseason. I mean, like, I don't think I drafted him.
00:34:24
Speaker
in one mock, in one actual draft, redraft, dynasty start.
Fantasy League Trades and Strategies
00:34:30
Speaker
Like I just was out because I just didn't necessarily see a path to that type of running back in this offense with Antonio Gibson getting a lot of hype and with Chris Rodriguez and other running backs there in the room. And I just kind of felt like
00:34:50
Speaker
And then he came out week one and week two and gets rips off, you know, like gets 19 carries week one gets 18 carries week two gets two touchdowns week two. And he's one of like the top running backs on the season through two weeks. And he's, he's, he's managed to stay within the top 10. He's, I think he's running back 10 on the season still as of right now, yet the last four weeks he's played.
00:35:15
Speaker
50, 35, 50, 35% of snaps. He's actually seeding early down carries to Chris Rodriguez at this point. I think Chris Rodriguez got 85 and seven carries the last two weeks. He's on the field more. And Robinson's never on the field during third down and passing down. So Antonio Gibson has that role pretty much locked down. So just mentioning Bryan Robinson here because I feel like I was out and then I had regret and I'm like,
00:35:45
Speaker
How did I not take this guy anywhere? And now I'm back out. I think that they're already one of the highest Washington pass volume teams in the entire league. And he's a very deceiving RB 10 on the season, who if he's your RB 1 or RB 2 right now, you're probably in bad shape. And I don't know that I would even have full confidence flexing him.
00:36:13
Speaker
honestly, at this point. So it's been a roller coaster, but not great vibes for B-Rob right now. Yeah, I had the same roller coaster ride you had. I was a Gibson guy also. He's not good as well. They don't have a run game is what's going on in Washington.
League Standings and Matchup Highlights
00:36:32
Speaker
But after those first couple weeks, I was like, I got to trade for this guy. This guy's going to be like, there's a solid army too. Maybe you can get him cheap.
00:36:39
Speaker
wasn't able to and thank God, uh, I was not able to cause I am out again on him. I don't want anyone on in that rushing offense. Yeah. Yeah. Like you said, it just doesn't look good there. I had Gibson differently and dropped him because you can't start anyone there pretty much. I mean Gibson, I think there were games he only had receptions. I don't think Gibson's getting in Russian attempts. So that, that offense is just not what you want for.
00:37:03
Speaker
Uh, from Russia, it's a weird offensive role, uh, for being honest, super hot and cold. Yeah. One week. They look incredible. Same thing with Sam. How one week he's great. And the next week you're like, is he even going to start next game? It's a giant giant state is looking at what I'm going to give that to wake. Um, but I'm going to also jump in with, uh, another, uh, unfortunate opinion change into the negative with a B Robinson, but with the John.
00:37:31
Speaker
which first of all, don't hear what I'm not saying. I am not saying Bijan is bad, but I had him personally as a lock for the top five at the running back position, expecting a super high floor with a massive ceiling, assuming he's gonna get a crazy workload. And if you've had him this year, which I do have him in a dynasty league, you're disappointed. He is the RB13, but he has no finishes above the RB8, which was back in week two. He has no weeks with over 20 points yet,
00:38:01
Speaker
A-chan, who has missed three games so far, still has 18 more points than Bajan has on the season. So it's just putting that in perspective there. And when you watch Bajan play, you realize this is not due to the lack of talent. The guy's incredible. The issue boils down to me to two major points. First point, he isn't the only shell in town for some reason. Al Gere is getting a healthy workload, often getting double digit touches every week. And now Cordell Patterson is back.
00:38:31
Speaker
Although he's not in a lead town, he's going to get some touches and steal a couple from Bajan. It's just, Arthur Smith loves using them. So like even, but you'd be like, all right, he's sharing touches. It's Arthur Smith's run first defense, run first offense. There'll still be plenty of work, but that's not the case so far. Ritter has actually thrown way more passes than anyone expected. Since week two, Ritter's averaging 35 pass attempts. And he's actually running a little bit too, especially near the goal line where he's vulturing
00:39:01
Speaker
uh, touchdowns, he's had three touchdown rushes in, which as a Bijan order, you're getting really frustrated because guess how many touchdowns Bijan has on the ground? Zero. It's crazy. Uh, so he's, I mean, he's still getting a healthy workload. He's in the past game. He's getting a good amount of reception. So he's still in RB one for fantasy. And someone in dynasty, I still view as a, as a very high in asset.
00:39:25
Speaker
But my expectations going forward have to change for him. His floor is lower than I thought it was. You're thinking more 10-point range going forward. And his ceiling for blow-up games may just not be there. At this point, I much prefer in both Redraft and Dynasty to have Breeze over Bajan, which going into the season seemed crazy to me. But Breeze at least has the ability to have those blow-up games and a decent floor where I don't see the same ceiling for Bajan. But it might be hot takey, but what are you guys thinking? I know, Joe and Art League, you have Bajan as well.
00:39:56
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, my thoughts are on the Atlanta offense is well documented. Truthfully, this is a lot of the genesis of those feelings. It's just the fact that he is maybe the best pure running back in the league right now. And he's got the tank of young legs and burst
00:40:26
Speaker
as full as it's ever going to be. And it's not like you can preserve that. Like it just it just it depletes with age, right? So all they're doing is just like wasting valuable time of his primus of primes. So I hope that it changes. And, you know, it's unfortunate because it may not as long as they continue to win. But
00:40:50
Speaker
Until then, I'll just be hoping that they lose every week until they start to give me John Robinson the ball more frequently. And you got to hope last week was an outlier where he really was sick or whatever they're saying he was. But yeah, I mean, Cordell Pederson got 10 rushing attempts last week, which is just unbelievable when you have Robinson and Elgier. So yeah, it's like we talked about. It's just kind of a crapshoot over there on who you want to start for fantasy purposes.
00:41:20
Speaker
Yeah, that leaves a bad taste. So I'm going to wash it out. I'm going to get a good one here. A little positive vibes going. So we're going to move to the wide receiver range and I'm going to jump in first with the number one option in the Jacksonville passing game. Christian Kirk. Yeah, I didn't think I'd be saying that, especially after week one where he played only 60% of snaps with three targets and one catch. But since then he has been undoubtedly the primary target for Trevor Lawrence.
00:41:48
Speaker
and I think it's time we start readjusting our view of this team's pecking order. Now, Kirk hasn't really blown you away in any weeks, but he's been so damn consistent every single week, providing you exactly what you want out of a wide receiver two flex. Since week two, he has scored between 11 and 18 points every single week. I have absolutely no shares of Christian Kirk anywhere, because I was expecting him to be maybe the fourth or fifth option, and now I'm seeing that was a huge, huge mistake.
00:42:18
Speaker
Uh, I've been a huge mistake. Yes. Huge mistake there. Yes. Um, the way this team is being run right now, uh, first it's wrong with ETN. That's the first option, but then it's after that, it's second, it's target Kirk third. It's target Ingram, which I'm sure we'll get into. And then fourth it's target Ridley.
00:42:40
Speaker
And Christian Kirk, he's only 27 and he's getting paid like a wide receiver one for also the next two seasons as well. And his dead cap is so high that he will not be cut, but he's performing like a wide receiver one for this team as well. So you can expect Kirk to not just be good this season, but to be tied to Trevor Lawrence for the next couple of years as well. So this is so on redraft and dynasty, I think is a very solid asset.
00:43:05
Speaker
Yeah, it's definitely changed for the better for him. Obviously everyone was talking about Ridley going into the season and how he was going to have this massive, massive year. But, uh, you know, Kirk seems here to stay. The only other little tidbit that I'll add is that Zay Jones played week one, which was when Kirk had his worst week and he's basically been injured since and should be coming back soon. Maybe that changes things a little bit, but
00:43:31
Speaker
Like you said right now he seems to be ahead of of Ridley and Ingram and he would assume today Jones So he's the number one target for Trevor Lawrence right now Yeah, I mean we should have known right like it's one of those things where it's just like as a community I think we kind of just like
00:43:49
Speaker
overthought it a little bit and was like, yeah, Ridley, you know, he had success the last time he was on the field, like two fucking years ago. And yeah, Kirk was Kirk was very solid last year. And even in the playoffs, right, two playoff games, he had 14 targets and a touchdown in each of the two playoff games. So like the last time he was on the field of going into the season, he was the number one receiver. And we all just kind of like just forgot about him getting into this season. And it was like all of a sudden week two is like, oh, yeah, you know,
00:44:18
Speaker
Christian Kirk's the number one receiver again. I know. And I feel like the preseason legends, because they were saying Zay Jones was the outside guy, and Kirk was going to play slot. But they was a 12 personnel a lot, where there's two tight ends, and the slot guys off the field.
00:44:33
Speaker
You want a guy who gets in the slot, but isn't only a slot wide receiver. He wants someone that runs like flanker route. And it seemed like after week one, Kirk was only playing slots. So that's why we're like, yeah, he's done. Like he's only going to be half field, but I don't see how he's not involved more now. Like I feel like Zay Jones, like no matter what, like Zay Jones will be off the field over Christian Kirk. You're leaving Kirk on that field. Like I think so, but yeah, we'll see it out. As a Kirk owner in a lot of leagues last year,
00:45:04
Speaker
Damn, I remember watching. Zae Jones scored a lot of touchdowns last year. I'm actually going to pop it open right now towards the end of the year. He had a 30 touchdown game towards the end of last year. Zae Jones is very underrated. He's won like 28, I think, as well. He's a late bloomer. But he had, I think, a really nice touchdown for the Jags only a couple weeks ago as well. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's keep the positive odds going, because I know the bad one. I'm going to have some explaining to do. So Joe, why don't you jump in first?
00:45:31
Speaker
Yeah, so I'm going to go with Puka Nakua for mine. So Puka is currently the wide receiver four on the season. And he has the same number of touchdowns as he does weeks outside the top 12 wide receivers, which is an incredible statistic being
00:45:54
Speaker
number four wide receiver on the season, two touchdowns, two weeks outside the top 12. And why I'm choosing to mention him here because after week one, he burst onto the scene and it was it felt a little bit out of necessity, right? He had, you know, like an unbelievable amount of targets and perceptions and yards for a rookie in the first game week one.
00:46:18
Speaker
Um, kind of felt like a flash in the pan. I wasn't that in, I don't, I don't, I didn't put in any fab really anywhere that would have, uh, resulted in me acquiring him after such a performance week one. And the reality is that he basically continues to demand double digit targets at the entire season. He's a really strong receiver. He's always open. He's base. He catches the ball. Like he's got good hands. And even now with Cooper cup back, right? Like I felt.
00:46:47
Speaker
I felt good. I've even said on the pod last week about cup coming in week one, kind of felt like, you know, two, two Atwell was the, was the odd man out. And I still think he is right. I still think it's cup and the Kua as like the one a and one B here, but, uh, the Kua had 140 something yards and another 13 or 14 targets last week and in a negative game script.
00:47:11
Speaker
and cup was like four for 30 and change or five, five for 40. So, you know, he's, he's not touchdown dependent, which is incredible at the wide receiver position. And if, if the positive touchdown regression does start to come, you know, he might finish the season as a top five wide receiver. So you're real happy with him and definitely somebody who I feel like
00:47:37
Speaker
After week one I was not super confident was going to be able to sustain and he's definitely sustained Yeah, and like you said when cup came back you thought he'd see you know less but he really hasn't I guess to flip it are you at all concerned about cup now that? Puka has kind of established himself there cup had a down game last week and like you said, you know Puka had 12 targets so I am
00:48:06
Speaker
In Dynasty, I would be concerned with Cup. I think if I wasn't a contender this year, I'd probably be looking to sell because he's 30 years old and he has an injury history and we don't really know what the quarterback situation for the Rams is gonna be like beyond this year, really. I mean, maybe we get another year of Matt Safford. I feel like any additional years of Matt Safford at this point are like a gift.
00:48:33
Speaker
to Rams dynasty fantasy football players. So yeah, I mean, I'm not incredibly, incredibly concerned about cup for this season. I was frustrated last week by the usage because I had a cup anytime score or touchdown that, and it just seems like you could run that in and out
00:49:00
Speaker
Uh route that they kind of run with cop where he's saying the outside wide receiver and they're on the one or two yard line and he starts in and then Kind of zigzag like zags right out towards the pylon and stafford's got the timing down with him perfectly And he catches it with like every like it works every time every time it works He probably caught that exact pass for a touchdown like 16 times for a touchdown last year alone They did it for the two-point like it's just they they could run that play every time so just
00:49:28
Speaker
You know, like I think that they will down like, you know, once, once, uh, the game, they're, they're, they're a playoff contending team. Hopefully they'll stay a playoff contending team. And I wouldn't necessarily be super worried about cup, but if I had him in dynasty and I wasn't contending, I probably looked to get what I can. Yeah. I have no concerns at all. It's, it's just pure age with cup, which that's any player, no matter what the, anytime you start seeing a player get near 30, you're like, I gotta get rid of this guy.
00:49:56
Speaker
Um, but if you're a contending team, it's like, I'm writing this to the ground. Um, and yeah, I cup still a wide receiver one, but I think both can coexist Stafford's done it before. I mean, it's been cupped and Robert Woods in the past and it seems like Puca is taking that Robert Woods role. Um, so I'm, I think they both can coexist and I'd be excited to have both on my team.
00:50:17
Speaker
Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, I think it's a 1A, 1B situation, and they should both be very playable going forward. But flipping the script to someone who I think we've soured on a little bit, you know, Jesse Judy. And I know Dave, you just traded for him, so we'll get your thoughts. But first, let's throw a few facts out. He's wide receiver, 55 on the season, 57 on a points per game basis. His best week was 10 points. He has zero touchdowns.
00:50:46
Speaker
You could blame it on Russell Wilson, but Sutton has five touchdowns on the season as the wide receiver 20. I just think Jerry Judy is one of those guys that everyone's kind of high on year after year, but then he never performs. But it's always kind of blamed on something almost like a DJ more like a Calvin Ridley, where, you know, there's just always this hype, but it never happens. And then, you know, next year, he'll have the hype and it may not happen. But
00:51:14
Speaker
Uh, I just don't think he's going to turn into a top 15 wide receiver option or anywhere near that, uh, even if he gets treated. So I'm out on him now, but let's hear your thoughts, Dave. Right. That is exactly what I hope happens is that people still believe the hype and that is what I am. That's why I acquired, I hate Jerry Judy. I think he stinks. Uh, I've been saying that I've been out on Jerry duty for so long, even in a different redraft league with Joe, I,
00:51:44
Speaker
Ended up drafting him with one of my last picks in that draft, because I know people do believe in him, and I don't. And to me, that is like such an, it's very easy to trade away. So many don't believe in, and someone else can buy into. So you just, even if it's like a sweetener, like I'll go in, like I don't feel like I'm losing much, but it gets a deal done. So that's what I'm hoping to get. And for me, I like, and we can get into the trade more detail a little bit later, but I,
00:52:12
Speaker
I needed more youth in the wide receiver room. I have a lot of older guys. I do have a couple of rookies, but I didn't have too many younger wide receivers. So I need some youth there. And I gave up a lot of older assets that are better, definitely better than Judy this year, in my opinion, but probably don't have too much like value beyond this year. And like after this year ends, they probably will have zero trade value. So I'm like, all right, if I can get Judy some youth, if he starts turning it around, get people buying to that hype again,
00:52:41
Speaker
I can flip them for something. So that was my whole motivation for that trade. Yeah, no, I mean, I think that's pretty accurate in what has to happen because it just doesn't look good. And I don't think he's going to be a good option going forward. But like you said, like I said, he has that hype year after year for some reason. I don't know why. Always believers in him. I don't know. Yeah.
00:53:07
Speaker
He'll have like one or two good games, and that's what I'm selling him. I just can't wait. I'm just waiting. He might be waiting a while. I know. No, he'll have one or two. Whenever there's a broken coverage, he'll beat him, and then people think that he's like an amazing run runner. It's like, no, he's just stuck there. He might be waiting until he's on a different team, because it's more of a right now. Absolutely stinks on ice, so. Yeah. I think he's coaching hates him, too. I can't believe what, the past two games he's had, what, like 10 targets for like
00:53:37
Speaker
five catches in what, 40 yards? I don't even know how he's doing. Are they only throwing at the line of scrimmage with them? It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you know what? Let's get the last bad one out of the way. It's with me, and then we'll finish on a couple good notes. So moving to the tight end.
00:53:57
Speaker
For some just also throw it out there tight end is an utter crapshoot, especially in dynasty. It's, it's such a hard position position to predict outside of the top seven or eight of position. But I did.
00:54:12
Speaker
There was this second year tight end, Chica Conquo, that the Dynasty community was absolutely enamored with, including myself. There was just so much hype for this guy as a player who was gonna ascend into the top 10 at the position. Although some cold war got thrown on that when the Tennessee tight end signed DeAndre Hopkins, because a big aspect of that was the fact that there were so many available targets for grabs, and that is no longer really the case.
00:54:39
Speaker
But the other part you were excited about with Chig was that you saw in his rookie season, he was so explosive with the ball and yards after the catch, getting these massive chunk plays. Last year, Chig was averaging his yards per target of 9.78 yards and 14.06 yards per catch.
00:55:01
Speaker
But this year, those numbers have been effectively cut in half. He is at 4.9 yards per target and 7.17 yards per catch. And if you're only getting about four targets a game, and with those few opportunities, you need to have big chunk plays to get fantasy points. And he's not getting that right now. He's having shorter passes, and he's not breaking free for yards up to catch. So he's just simply not a starting option anymore. He is currently the tight end 35 on the year.
00:55:31
Speaker
which is just useless, even in a Titan premium league like we are in right now. And now, round 10 to Hill is hurt, and you're going to have the likes of Will Levis or Malik Willis thrown to him for the foreseeable future. It is not going to get better. So although I do love his athletic profile, I need to focus my attention elsewhere at the Titan position. Sad.
00:55:55
Speaker
Yeah. No, he just hasn't had the usage, like you said, and, uh, it was just so fun to say too, if he was good, come on, you know, like, uh, Hopkins signing hurt. And, but obviously like, is anybody in that passing offense producing anything? I mean, trailing Burt's been hurt too, but like, he's healthy. Brian Tannehill, uh, has looked washed up and I think that's part
00:56:24
Speaker
Part partially contributing to the chicks underperformance this year, for sure. Yeah. And that whole team, the offensive side, at least disastrous, but let's, uh, let's really turn around to a solid rookie, right? Always wants to jump in here. Yeah. So someone, I think people were pretty high on before the season, but now you're way, way higher on his Sam LaCorta.
00:56:49
Speaker
You know, got to be almost considered the steal of the rookie draft. He was taken in the late second round in our draft, but probably slipped to the third round in some drafts. And he's currently the tight end four on the season already as a rookie. He's looked good.
00:57:05
Speaker
And honestly, the fact that he's performing so well on a team that it turns out is actually loaded with fantasy relevant players at Detroit Lions, who would have thought. But you know, you got golf, Montgomery Gibbs, St. Brown, even Josh Reynolds has become fantasy relevant. It's pretty encouraging.
00:57:23
Speaker
You know, long-term view right now, he's the number two dynasty ranked tight end, but he's literally one spot behind Travis Kelsey because of Kelsey's age. So he's likely going to be the number one tight end dynasty asset, uh, you know, real soon, um, already kind of pushing for it. So that's a huge sort of turn of events from the beginning of the season and someone that everyone's high on now.
00:57:49
Speaker
And, and historically rookie tight ends do not show up. He is shattering the record books for rookie tight ends. So easily could be, I mean, he's got to be considered a top three, four dynasty tight end already. Like he is just dominating with the hype and the new shiny toy situation. I wouldn't be surprised if he was like the first or the second guy off, uh, off the board from a tight end perspective in dynasty startups this off season. Yeah. Yeah. Cause like.
00:58:18
Speaker
Yeah, Kelsey's a year older. Andrew's still up there. But after Andrew's and Kelsey, you got Hopkinsons in the mix and LaPorta, I think that's the top four. I don't think there's anyone else in consideration there. Yeah.
00:58:32
Speaker
But one other guy who's pretty deep, he's probably the next tier in the talent position. Is it someone Joey's going to speak to? Yeah, so not flashy. My opinion on this person has, again, been a bit of a roller coaster even throughout his entire career because he
00:58:49
Speaker
Started off his career with the Giants and absolutely was about as unreliable as they get at the tight end position for the team. It could not be more excited to get rid of him. But Evan Ingram, and I'm mentioning Evan Ingram here because he's very, I guess, under the radar, if you will. And, you know, like a lot of people view the tight end position as touchdown dependent, right? Like most tight ends aren't getting a lot of volume. So if you can get the guy who gets a touchdown,
00:59:18
Speaker
then you're probably going to have a tight end one on the week, probably somewhere from.
00:59:23
Speaker
tight end three to seven or eight, right? Like if your guy scores. Evan Ingram has not scored one single touchdown this entire season and he's still the tight end seven ahead of guys like George Kittle who has scored three times. He's had four weeks as a tight end one, two as a high end tight end two, right? So he finished as tight end 14, two different times. So basically he's a tight end one every week.
00:59:53
Speaker
And he still hasn't scored a touchdown. So he's basically a lot to produce, like Dave said earlier. He's basically Trevor Lawrence's second read on just about every passing play. And if the touchdown dependency, if the touchdown variance actually starts to tilt in his direction, and he scores two or three or four times over the rest of the season, you're looking at potentially a top three or four guy.
01:00:23
Speaker
I definitely am higher on Evan Ingram than I was previously and probably somebody who, if you don't have one of the elite guys at tight end, I would confidently say that you're absolute best option at tight end because you know for sure that you're going to get some output and you're not going to just get craft.
01:00:47
Speaker
It's like he said, he has seven or eight targets every single game, except we go on what you had five targets. So if you're getting seven or eight targets from your tight end every single week, guaranteed, that's pretty valuable. You're getting goose a lot. Like even kiddo gooses you a ton. I feel like I actually have anger in a lot of places because
01:01:09
Speaker
He always is just a value. Like he never went in, like he's never dropped in top, side of the top seven, like tied into where I was. Even like in dynasty, I acquired him pretty cheap. Cause, but if I wasn't getting one of the top like three, four guys, now you can put him a port in there. But if I wasn't getting one of those elite guys, I was like, I'm just getting angry. And like knowing I'm going to be good there.
01:01:29
Speaker
Um, so I, I agree. I think it's only for me, it's like, I always, uh, I thought he was solid, but I just have such a stronger confidence in him now. I think seeing that about him, but with that, we're going to move into some of our, uh, our league updates because finally the floodgates open, the trademark boys were just holding and just took to the midpoint of the season for, for some trades that happened. And honestly,
01:01:55
Speaker
Thanks to Scotty. Scotty basically made it all happen. We had four trades, and the first three coming from Mr. Rapizotti over here. But we'll talk about the first one. Kind of a minor trade. It was Scott acquired Joshua Dobbs, quarterback of the Arizona Cardinals, and he gave up. And I didn't realize it was a 2026 until I was looking at this stock, but his second round pick in 2026, it was a few years out. Scott needed a quarterback for the week, so he traded and got one. No rule.
01:02:26
Speaker
I don't know if you guys have any thoughts here. Not much to really say. I was just, got a stopgap quarterback, Phil. Yeah. I mean, Dobbs has been great as a stopgap quarterback and, you know, Tyler Murray is supposed to come back, but I don't know. I feel like there's still question marks there on what's going to happen with Murray. And, uh, yeah, I mean, he gave up a 2026 pick. Yeah. Yeah. There's re-injury risk and with Murray and.
01:02:54
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, you have a couple of years to figure out what you're going to do about your 2026 second round pick, right? Like you have two full seasons to try and make any number of other trades where you get somebody to throw in a 2026 second to balance the scales and all of a sudden you're right back into the second round. So I, you know, I view it, I view that as a good move and got to get a start quarterback out there.
01:03:21
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, these are low value assets already. This isn't really having a major impact, but it filled a need at the time. Moving on to trade number two, which we alluded to before, I acquired Jerry Judy and I gave up Odell Beckham, Logan Thomas, and Malik Willis. I was involved in it, so I'll let you guys speak more to it.
01:03:44
Speaker
Yeah, so I think it's a good opportunity to grab another depth piece at quarterback for Scott. I like the idea of adding Logan Thomas, who in a tight end premium league, Logan Thomas. Yeah, he's been really solid. I think he's like a top 10. I think he actually is like the tight end, like I don't know, somewhere in like the 10 to 12 range. He's been pretty good. And yeah, I mean, as somebody who was
01:04:14
Speaker
optimistic about Jerry Judah coming into the season. I no longer have that same level of optimism. I think he just, I think his opportunity to be an elite player in the league is probably passed because if he was going to be elite, then you'd be noticing it right now, right? Like Garrett Wilson is elite and he's playing
01:04:38
Speaker
He's got an absolute dog shit quarterback throwing him the ball and you know that he's yeah, he's elite, right? So if somebody said it one of you guys said it earlier, right like court court and Sutton is yeah, he's Yeah, yeah significantly app producing Judy. So I think Judy's kind of done and I I like the move for both sides though because I think if Judy ends up getting traded in the offseason Which is very very likely to happen
01:05:07
Speaker
ends up in a new team you can trade him on the promise a fresh start yeah baby yeah it's a guarantee just watch he'll go to somebody like Buffalo or Miami or something and maybe he'll have a decent career and or the Chiefs Washington go to Chiefs yeah well if you went to the Chiefs I think you pride pie hold on you would be the one with the height for him that's great
01:05:34
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, we obviously heard your side of it and your reasoning for doing it, but I, I love it from Scott side too. I think, you know, he's not going to get much out of Jerry Judy this year and he got, you know, three guys that he could at least do something with. And I think Logan Thomas is probably the most valuable one. He's been having a great year and tight on premium mealy. He can throw them into his lineup right now and you know, should help him this year.
01:05:59
Speaker
Earlier last week, we were talking about a larger deal that had Logan Thomas that he really wanted as well. I realized that bigger deal wasn't happening anymore and I couldn't get the assets to level it out. Then he was asking me about Jerry Judy. I'm like, all right, we can probably ... I could see a path for this working out for both of us.
01:06:18
Speaker
It's happy to get that deal done. But moving to trade three, he did this at the same time. He was working two parties at once. He made a second deal, or I should say a third deal, which looters well at the same time. And I look at all these deals to kind of together, and I kind of love what he did. But he ended up acquiring
01:06:36
Speaker
Kirk Cousins and a 2024 second. And he traded away James Connor, Quentin Johnson, and I think it was a 2024 first. It might have been a 2025 first. It might have been a future first. But he traded away a first as well. I personally love this because, as we mentioned, Scott needed to solve the quarterback situation. He's kind of had a lot of patchwork quarterback solves. And now he's got a solid option this year. And Kirk is going to play next year and a couple of years after that.
01:07:06
Speaker
And he's been a great quarterback so far. And he didn't, in my opinion, give up too, too much. Like, he got a second round pick this year back. James Connor, he's hurt. We'll see how the team kind of stinks. But Scott's loaded at running back. So he's not going to be missing James Connor. And QJ, I think, is overrated. And it's not really going to be much. He hasn't really shown too much excitement so far at the NFL level. If you don't start showing it your rookie year, you're never really going to ascend to that.
01:07:36
Speaker
Um, so to get a quarterback who I think could be top 10 for the year this year and still be solid in future years and solve that problem without giving any of his core lineup, which is already stacked. I think this was a great move for Scott. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think we talked about it last week. Uh, Scott just needed a quarterback and the rest of his lineup is real solid. So he gets to throw Kirk cousin in there now who is probably a top 10 fantasy QB this season. And like you said, he's not.
01:08:05
Speaker
He's old, but he's not going anywhere. He could have a couple of seasons left. Who knows? So really only downgraded from a first round pick to a second round pick, even if the years are different, um, and gave up two guys that I'm with you. I don't value super, super high right now. So I like the move and I think Scott's team gets a lot tougher with Kirk cousins at the helm. Much fewer holes now when you're playing them. Yep. I agree. I'll just echo what you said about QJ. I think, uh,
01:08:36
Speaker
The Bowlers had a whole conversation about the concerns about the opportunity that he's having this season relative to how much he's actually taking advantage of that opportunity. And it's like, you know, like you said, right, like rookie wide receivers who are given a great opportunity and don't really take advantage of it or flash at all. There are some that, you know, in year two or year three will kind of pop up out of nowhere, but it's,
01:09:05
Speaker
certainly not, uh, the, the likely outcome at this point. So I think taking advantage of the asset there now. And like Rod Doggy said, you know, just basically moving back from first to second round to add a quarterback who should play for a number of more years in the super flex league was a good move. Yeah. Uh, yeah, I'm a big fan of it. I mean,
01:09:29
Speaker
Also with Quinn Johnson, like he's used more of the higher drafted rookies, but here are the list of rookies who are doing better than him and seizing opportunities. You got Puka that we talked about, Jordan, Addison, Z flowers, Josh downs, Rashid rice, Michael Wilson, tank tell, uh, what is it? Jayden Reed, Marvin Mims, JSN, even, uh, tomorrow Douglas bogo.
01:09:56
Speaker
Marvin men's on like four catches. Yeah. Trey Palmer, Jalen Hyatt, Wix, Mingo, Trey Tucker, Davis, Scott. And then I don't even know who Bell is. Ronnie Bell on the front. Like these guys will have more points in bigger weeks than huge. Some of these things are huge, but you're talking about like at least 10 guys. I personally would rather have a dynasty thing. Quinn Johnson. So I thought it was a great move, but
01:10:26
Speaker
and getting out there. And again, Scott, so I know a little bit behind the scenes, Scott, a lot of people were going after Bree Saul. That was the asset everyone wanted, especially when it came to trading a quarterback involved. Very, very smart him. He was steadfast. It wasn't happening. You're not going to Bree Saul, which was definitely the right move. And the fact that you get to keep him and still solve his quarterback position, I'm very impressed and thought it was a great move there. Yeah, you're not trading Bree Saul. I fully get that.
01:10:56
Speaker
And then to the last trade, Matt Rizinski acquired Tony Pollard from Chris Kanellos and he gave up a 2024 first and 2025 second, which to me, that's exactly the value in picks that I probably would expect for Pollard there. So not too much involved, but just Matt's already epic. He has too many running backs on this. That's my big concern. He has too many strong running backs and spread the ball.
01:11:21
Speaker
Yeah, I just got to correct you there, though. It's Dan Rosinski, not Matt. You're right. Dan manages the team. But yeah, I mean, I don't know why Matt's collecting running backs, but I think if you just look at the trade in a vacuum, pretty fair. Yeah, I would agree. In fact, I saw it, and I was honestly a little bit jealous of the Canelo side because capitalizing on an asset like Pollard and getting an early first and
01:11:47
Speaker
Uh, getting a first and a second is solid, solid return there. I mean, Pollard, are we sure Pollard's that good? You know, like he's, he, he's kind of one of those guys who was hyped up.
01:12:04
Speaker
and behind Zeke for years and then last year he got his opportunity, looked explosive, really looked the part, was running well, was catching a lot of passes. This year has not really run that well. I mean, he's involved in the passing game, but he's kind of shit from just between the tackles running. So yeah, there's a lot of season left, obviously, and they're thrown into him quite a bit in the passing game. And he's had some good games against him.
01:12:30
Speaker
put weaker defenses rushing, but I think that's a good move. And I know that there are some other running backs out there that in the league that I'm waiting to see if they move. I know Harry and Takasa are trying to
01:12:48
Speaker
shed Jacobs, but I actually think Jacobs is, for me personally, I'd rather have Jacobs than Pollard for the rest of this season. I don't know about Dynasty, but for this season, I think rest of season I would water bet Jacobs to score more fantasy points than Pollard. So there's definitely some
01:13:08
Speaker
Hopefully some more chips, dominoes left to fall. And, uh, I'll be, I'll be looking to make some moves too, as my team fell to two and five this year and I'm definitively slipping into 2024 mode. Yeah. Honestly, I think Paul and Jacobs will be closer than anything. Jacobs has not looked good either at all this year, but to the PowerPoint, Paul has average basically over five yards a carry his entire career.
01:13:33
Speaker
and this year he's below, he's at 3.85. So the efficiency has not been there for Pollard, which is definitely part of the issue, but who knows, maybe coming out of the buy, they'll bounce back. But also David Montgomery, who is the best running back of all the running backs available, is available. I'm in like a weird limbo where like I should, I feel like I should sell, but my
01:13:57
Speaker
record has me kind of the mix, but I just don't see a path forward to make it a playoffs. That's what I was saying on the last podcast. I feel like you're in tank mode, but you have a winning record. But it was a facade. It was a facade. We all know facade. I have the second lowest point scored in the league. Hey, we always say that all you got to do is make the playoffs. I know, but my whole team's hurt. I like just can't, I don't think, I think I'm going to lose too many gains before my team gets healthy to be a,
01:14:26
Speaker
in the playoffs, which is why I'm like, let's just lose more. But Monte also, I think, will be good for the next couple years, too. So it's a weird one. He's not young, but he's not old. But those are the trades. Have to see them finally go down. Hopefully, we see a couple more now that people are getting antsy. And we kind of broke the ice a little bit. But given a quick update on the high and low scores, low score was Harry and Dan this week.
01:14:55
Speaker
What is it? 85.16. Still not coming close to the week one record of the Wilkinson Brost. Not looking great. I was hoping someone would be a little closer here soon. We're at the midpoint, right? You have seven more weeks. So we'll see. Once my fire sale happens, then I'll be a contender for that. That's what you need. You need someone to just like fully outsell.
01:15:24
Speaker
That had buy weeks, you know, buy weeks. I don't know, we'll see. If someone sells buy weeks, it could happen.
01:15:30
Speaker
I mean, last week was the biggest bi-week of the year. And there's no bias this week. There's no bias this week. We're trying. And then for the high, it was actually my cat for Mike Williams for a new record. This is now the score to beat, 192.46. So congrats to them for breaking the record and holding it down. So we'll see if anyone can top it in the final seven weeks.
01:15:57
Speaker
But that being said, any future match, obviously we got Jets Giants this week.
Jets vs Giants Rivalry
01:16:02
Speaker
Not something I'd say I'd look forward to, because both teams are poo-poo, but we'll definitely be following that game. I'm sure there's a lot of Jets and Giants fans in our league, so that'll be a nice little rivalry.
Daniel Jones vs Tyrod Taylor - Who's Better?
01:16:15
Speaker
But it'll be interesting to see, I guess, if Daniel Jones plays, if he's actually better than Tyrod after what he's been doing. But I don't know if there's anything else you guys are looking forward to or any matchups in our league that you're keeping an eye on.
01:16:28
Speaker
Um, not a ton. Uh, as, as my focus has slightly shifted a little bit towards 2024, um, as one of the, the, I think I'm the. Well, third, third, third, uh, from the bottom, uh, I face team can call that third worst. Yeah. That would be, that would be correct.
01:16:55
Speaker
I faced Team Kanellos this year who is in the actual basement and it'll be interesting to see. I think if he takes me down, then that might put me into a pole position for the 101. So let the, let the tank season begin boys. And I'm, I was looking at.
Scott vs Adam: A Surprise Matchup?
01:17:13
Speaker
actually Scott's team facing off against Adam's team just because I feel like Adam just keeps slipping by with wins he has the best record but I just he's almost like the Falcons he just wins even though I feel like he shouldn't win every week and Scott Steven now got a lot better so even though he's two and five I'm curious to see if he can take down Adam there and then in terms of real football Thursday night we got the Bills I'm excited to watch the Bills I feel like
01:17:43
Speaker
They're so kind of hit or miss almost that like playing the Bucks, I think they're favored by like nine. I feel like it's still going to be a really close game.
Bills vs Buccaneers Preview
01:17:52
Speaker
Yeah, I'm hoping it's a get right game. Um, they need one because that, that offense has been sputtering lately, but we'll see. Thursday night games can throw like kind of curve balls at you. So see if it screws them up a little.
Josh Allen's Performance: Late Bloomer?
01:18:05
Speaker
Yeah. Josh Allen, he's still been a top fantasy quarterback, but it's like,
01:18:10
Speaker
The first half, you're panicking, because it doesn't have anything. He looks bad. I have him in a redraft, and he looks so bad for 75% of the game. And then the last quarter, he just scores multiple touchdowns, and he ends up, I think it was, what, like two before something this week? He looked horrible. It was an all week game. Literally, it's the last two games. He just scores all his points in the fourth quarter. It's crazy. Love it. Love it. He's great to own. You do get anxious when you look at the end of the week. You're like, yeah, it was actually OK. Not bad.
Closing Remarks and Listener Goodbyes
01:18:40
Speaker
All right, but with that thank you guys for listening again Good luck in all your fantasy matchups and cheers to week eight of the NFL season Have a good one on the NSFW dynasty podcast Take care guys
01:19:10
Speaker
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