Bonus 2: Including men in the sequel

We bring you our second guest spot, with better audio, Craig! Annalyse and Emily listen to Craig, an old white guy, share the thoughts and old frameworks that he wants to let go of as an answer to the question from episode Practical Magic. With a perspective far different from their own, his  experiences help identify additional ways for all of us to move toward embodiment and shed the external influence holding us back. 

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