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Season 3- Episode 6- It's Tradition (Champions Cup Round 1)
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It's those American rugby knuckleheads back with their latest babbling to entertain you. On this episode we get through quite a bit, including a few bits from the news cycle (no we didn't talk about all the money in the world either, unfortunately). We have a look at the World Cup draw, where that potentially puts our Eagles, the revolving door at the Gloucester 10 position, give recognition to an Eagle playing in Devon, and of course take our semi-annual bite out of the tv provider for rugby in the U.S. Yes, of course we touch on all the action, the good and the bad, bleh. Go through the latest in the Champi-Yanks League and give our best advice for each of this coming weekend's matches with Start or Sit. Crack open your dino-beer, put your feet up and tune in.
Don't forget Episode 100 is coming up! We want to hear from you about what you'd like us to discuss in this special episode for us. E-mail the pod or hit us up on twitter for ideas and questions for this episode (coming in January).
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Transcript
Champions Cup Excitement
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. We are the Fancy Rugby Inc. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauzer. Let's do this. Oh, man. Champions Cup round one. Done. Done. Wow. What a weekend. Yeah, no kidding. I actually I watched 10 matches. I didn't feel like I watched 10 matches.
00:00:25
Speaker
Also many I watched to be honest because I watched Yeah, I just a shitload of rugby but good stuff like it's it's one thing when you get through 95% good stuff, right?
00:00:42
Speaker
Like there's a there's a reason why we watch prim and then not really anything else because like you can only take so there's sometimes when i'm like i don't want to watch this this sixth match because i oh yeah i know you get out it's been it's been garbage it's been a bad week all that well man we'll talk about the one of the ones that was a garbage is a little bit here but yeah um what's down over here yeah must must say wait a minute why are we waiting for this waiting for this for no reason
Engagement Encouragement
00:01:09
Speaker
Obviously find a certain way you get your favorite podcasts. Download us, subscribe to us, rate us, all those good things. Let us know what you think. Email the podcast if you want. You know what I'd like to know from you people out there in Podland? Oh, that one. How did you find us? That's interesting. I would like to know these things. Yeah, that'd be a good
00:01:33
Speaker
So even if you don't want to tell us how much we suck, tell us how you found us and how you've come to be disappointed by us. No, we're entertained, preferably entertained. That's disappointing right there. Look up our friend in the fantasy where we keep George. He's obviously going to be keen with all kinds of tips this weekend as well. Lots of matches to pick through and find the right players and we'll try and do our best later on today.
00:01:59
Speaker
But yeah, give that man a coffee slash beer slash whatever you wish to call it that you're buying the man. Give it to him. He deserves it.
Stance Against Racism
00:02:06
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. DRM upgrades. Next weekend, we're going to be back in the prom. Remember that? And do you really want to be like?
00:02:14
Speaker
hungover after your Christmas drinks and trying to sort through the lineups. You don't. No, you don't. Trust me, you do not. Because I've been there. I've been there a few times. So no, you don't. You want to be able to just look at your beautiful TRM app or your TRM web browser and go, huh, he's starting. Cool. Play.
00:02:35
Speaker
And don't screw around with it more than that. Trust me. It ends poorly. And of course, they're supporting RPA. So what's so bad about it? You know, nothing bad about that. As always, Black Lives Matter to the fans who are yanks. We are absolutely 100% holy against racism in any way, shape, or form. And discrimination in any way, shape, or form, really. There's no point in it. We're all humans. We're all here. Trust me.
00:03:01
Speaker
There's humans that are great in all shapes and sizes, and there are humans that suck in all the shapes and sizes too, but we want to emphasize the great ones and not discriminate them because they aren't looking like Ben or I or anybody else, right? I want to bring attention to a trend that's happening again in the US that we've seen in the past and it just has not gotten enough
Remembering Breonna Taylor Protests
00:03:24
Speaker
attention. I don't have much of a way to bring it, but I will here to bring attention to it.
00:03:30
Speaker
For the second time in a month, a person involved with the Breonna Taylor protests has been murdered. This time it was Chris Smith. A few weeks ago, it was Travis Nagdy. We saw this with Ferguson. The protest leaders there were murdered in suspicious circumstances. And this doesn't happen to people normally. And
00:03:59
Speaker
There's it's a major problem and you know, I guess the the people who are against these people Have sorted out that it's better to kill them before they become too famous So that way they can't become national martyrs, but it's important that the rest of us then remember What these people stood for because we need to take up the struggle from them and and and say we're not going to be intimidated
00:04:26
Speaker
Absolutely, and you know, it can't just be people like these that pull up pull up the signs for for racism and black lives matter inequality because They are they've been doing it for years. Yes time for everybody else to get in the fight and it's important Yeah, it is important to practice this in your own life. I and it's not hard To just have these conversations with with friends and family and you don't have to be a dick about it That's the best part when I when I first came back to Boston rugby
00:04:55
Speaker
And and we were there somebody made an offhand joke about So, you know, I may have put players off the field habits and and another and I didn't know quite how to respond and one of the other leaders stepped up and said Yeah, but whatever he does in his own time. That's not what we don't like him. We don't like him because of this. Yeah And it's like oh, yeah, that's like, you know It's it's very easy to just deflect the conversation away from that and say, you know what? No, that's not
00:05:19
Speaker
We're not going to use that as an insult. There's other reasons to not like this person. Let's just stick with them. Yeah, let's just write that out. There's ways around it. Please practice them with your friends and family in non-confrontational ways and ways that will help them to grow. Conversations, not arguments. There's no difference.
00:05:38
Speaker
Okay.
100th Episode Reflection
00:05:40
Speaker
And for those of you that don't know, and if you're listening to this podcast, you probably do know this, we're reaching episode 100 next month. It's going to be so much fun. Oh, you are? Yeah. You know, people are just like, well, it's 100. It's like, dude, we didn't know we did. I mean, yes, you know, we didn't
00:05:58
Speaker
We could have stopped and that was more the point. We could have easily just packed it in and said, this fucking shit's not happening. And we didn't. And we've had support from a lot of people. So it's really...
00:06:12
Speaker
in a way it's celebrating the people that have supported us that we were able to spur on and get here because yeah if we you know you and I are not somebody to give a shit about what other people think but when you're encouraged by other people it does help you just continue to soldier on and not that we're doing anything super difficult here but there are days where
00:06:32
Speaker
and I have both experienced them. We're both sitting there crunching the numbers and go, I'm going to kill something. I was getting almost a little bit of carpal tunnel last night. So I was like, I'm just putting this away. I'm like on the couch trying to manage spreadsheets on a Mac. And I was like, no. Whoops. No, I'm misusing this piece of equipment. So I'm just going to stop for today. Yeah, time to stop for today. That's good.
00:07:02
Speaker
So, yeah, we will we will be doing it. We will do our best to to broadcast it live if we can. And we'll have our some of our old friends in and then possibly other guests that haven't yet actually appeared on the podcast. So we'll see. But either way, it's going to be a fun time and we're going to make it very different. Email if you have questions for us, tweet at us or email us and we would be happy to discuss them on episode 100. So keep an eye out for that next month.
World Cup Draw Speculations
00:07:32
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New cycle. World Cup draw. How are we feeling? Host get the Kiwis as they planned on? I mean, I guess you could say that because the French do have quite a number on the Kiwis. There's no history of France versus New Zealand and France, right? Never ever. No, it's fantastic. And there was talk about it being the opening match.
00:07:59
Speaker
Which, you know, obviously among fans because that's what we want to see. That's what we want to see. And I actually, you know, I thought about it a little bit and I was like, you know, it doesn't make sense. You want them to ease into it. And then I realized, no, these these are teams that will have pre World Cup matches to get ready for it. Yes. There will come in as ready as they're going to be. Let's do it. Like, let's just put the nuts on the table right there and see whose hammer comes down first.
00:08:26
Speaker
I got a few bets on it, but we'll see. With the form of the French, it could be very interesting. We don't know if the French are going to peak too early. We've seen teams do it, but we'll find out, I guess, once that rolls around in 2023. The US's possible pools will be pool A,
00:08:48
Speaker
or pool B. So we're either looking at potentially if we're America, if we get the Americas one spot, depending on how qualifying goes, we could have New Zealand. Yeah, that's what the world America do. Yeah. Well, you have New Zealand, France, Italy, you know, Italy's Italy. We'll see what they, you know, they're always a tier one just because they fend off everything else that's underneath them. But they can never just punch above it. They're almost in a weird tier of their own.
00:09:15
Speaker
And then Africa won what you presumed going to be in Namibia. Right. But maybe somebody sneaks in there. I don't know what they're qualified to look like. So yeah, I wish I knew enough about it. Or on the other side of it, we're looking at England, Japan, Argentina and Oceania one, which is probably going to be one of the other island nations, which I'm not super excited about. That's true. It's not Fiji, but I also don't like playing Samoa or Tonga because they usually have our number. They do. And it's usually it's usually frustrating as fuck to lose to them because you're like,
00:09:43
Speaker
We're better than they are, but they're just playing better rugby like we are better athletes and and everything But they're just doing stuff and we're like wait, we don't know how to do that. No No, yeah, we'll see it. We'll see what the development is of some the young guys that the u.s. Have They've got some they got some players now as we're seeing it and it's there's
00:10:03
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it's no longer being starting to be a uh oh wow there's an american on this team and he's playing well it's more of a okay yeah this guy he's one of the yanks like it's quite good yeah okay that's right it's no longer the uh um the oddity or the the spectacle oh we have an american here oh look at him he's trying to play rugby
00:10:24
Speaker
Oh, he's so cute. Look at that. Yeah, we don't have that at the airport, thankfully. Oh, man. So we'll see how that goes. But 2023, France, look out. Here we
Danny Cipriani's Future
00:10:36
Speaker
come. We are on the train. Fly half revolving door at Gloucester. Craziness happening today. Many announcements today. It was leaked that Hastings could be on his way. And sure enough, Gloucester have announced the signing of Adam Hastings.
00:10:52
Speaker
Coming to King's home. And then a day later. And a day later, Sips decides he's out. I'm out. He's out. And I have such a heart for Danny Sipriani. He's had a tough 18 months. He has. He really has. It's not been good or easy. So whatever his decision is, you have to respect it. Because he's probably got some things to figure out before he figures out what his next move is. Whether it is he wants to go play for another club, play for overseas, whatever.
00:11:21
Speaker
He should do whatever the fuck makes him happy at this point at this point. Absolutely. I agree Yeah, you know he and his wife are very happy obviously, and I think that's what he wants to focus on right now is him in the missus And that's all that's all he really should Yeah, that's what he should be focused on because it's you know, he's trying he's trying to force something that's not working for whatever reason it's not working and
00:11:53
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's this is I think this is good for him. Ultimately. It's not it's not good for him, but it's good that like it kind of frees him up a little bit to just say, you know what? I've given it my best shot over here. He's what, 33. So we got in his 30s. Just yeah, come play in the U.S. Yeah, we'll take you. We'll take you. Absolutely. Or, you know, go to Japan. Just go or go to France. Shit. You do well in France. Yeah. You're just fine there. So there's all sorts of stuff he can do.
00:12:16
Speaker
And he's an incredibly talented player.
00:12:23
Speaker
Or even goes to play super rugby if he wants to go hang out down there a little bit Whatever whatever the man chooses to do right now. He's right. I don't think he should be limited to the prep at this point. No, I think You know Eddie Eddie's Eddie. So just move on with that and go do what you feel like man But yeah, he Hastings going to Gloucester should be very interesting. I think this will increase his development
00:12:49
Speaker
As a tan and we'll give them. I mean they have two solid tens in Scotland. So Unfortunately two of them broke while they're playing these these internationals recently, which was nice You know We shall see how that goes but I certainly will be an uptick to Gloucester. Mm-hmm for sure
Kate Zachary's Recognition
00:13:09
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And then we have to recognize the one of our own, Kate Zachary, player of the month for the Exeter women. Just being a general terror around the breakdown as she usually is and playing super duper defense. And then she also got herself over the line and she just, for all accounts, she's leading the charge on the ball carrying and the defense. So it sounds like, and they had two wins this month or last month, excuse me. So, and they pushed wasps who are very good.
00:13:38
Speaker
premiere 15's team to that so right and this is and this is an excerpt team that's Essentially brand new pretty much Um, so that's that's it's impressive that they're they're playing well and that it's especially impressive for her that she's a part of it And excelling. Yeah, she's doing quite well from it and she's very very well respected amongst the the team there So I get on you kate way to go put it this way when I mentioned her name to my wife
00:14:05
Speaker
Jess was like, oh, we like Kate Zach. She doesn't like all the Eagles. Let's put it that way. We know that. This I know. So yeah, she was like, oh yeah, she deserves it. That's good. Good. We like those types. Small note, London dropped to tier three over in the UK. There was a
00:14:24
Speaker
quite a spike, I guess, in London. So they're going to just take the caution and take away the fans for now, which sucks because it was so good to see the fans the last few weeks in the stands. But it's the right decision. You know, fans will come back. And I'm sure we'll see them back soon. But while there's a little bit of a spike, you got to be very cautious of it. We don't need a bigger spread. So unfortunate, but correct.
00:14:53
Speaker
And then, it's tradition. We have to shit on this. Right. Although, I don't know if it's their fault, but it doesn't matter. They're taking the shit. No, they're taking the shit for it. There's more than just this reason. This is the microcosm of the whole freaking thing. So, if you didn't see the action that Ben and I were giving back and forth during one of the matches,
00:15:15
Speaker
no clock or scoreboard in the corner of the screen. And I can guarantee you BT was not screwing that up. That was definitely on Peacock, because they had graphics that they weren't showing beforehand with the lineups and such. I'm like, this is not BT, this is definitely Peacock screwing this up. So, yeah. They still had the other graphics. It was just that one wasn't coming through. It's like, what are you doing? What are you guys doing?
00:15:41
Speaker
And it's like, yeah, I was like, I just like, Hey, what's the score? And I was like, I remember being five three. This is not something that would be acceptable. Right. If this was an NFL game or no. And I know we're not that, but I don't give a shit. At least give us the minimum. If you're airing. So here's the thing. If you're airing it, you have to, you should be having someone.
00:16:04
Speaker
Watching it at least to see like oh shit. What you don't look for this if you're missing this There's a problem let us know and we'll fix it something like that. Um, but yeah Yeah, so it went in and out and just super annoying. So anyway, I mean, of course that wasn't aided by the fact that
00:16:22
Speaker
It was a 5-3 match, actual 8-3 match, and it was like a halftime, so it was not a good match that we were all watching. No, it wasn't. So it's one of those... Gave me a lot of time to think. Right. I had a lot to think about during that time. Let me go look around the speed, because what's in the middle is not very entertaining. I'm going to look at the corner. Oh yeah, there's nothing there. Yeah, it's stupid. But you know, I will say, and this is supposed to be a better
00:16:46
Speaker
Platform that NBC has moved to right? I don't know what NBC is. It's one that works over here They've changed it from NBC Sports gold Which is what we used to have to cough up for see peacock now peacock supposedly provides more I've watched more primarily matches than ever I haven't a long time so I'm not sad about it But the quality on there is perfectly fine because that's that's one of their things for
Peacock Streaming Complaints
00:17:08
Speaker
them. Yeah unfortunately the
00:17:10
Speaker
The platform and finding the matches and just the general layout sucks. It's such a pain in the ass. Just get around. Complete pain in the ass. For something that's supposed to be an upgrade, this is a downgrade. Right. Sorry. Also, we only get to catalog it for 30 days? Yeah.
00:17:25
Speaker
So we only get to watch, go back and watch replays for like, and I like to watch some replays sometimes just when, you know, there ain't nothing else to do. And I'm like, yeah, I got nothing else to do. I'd watch a rugby match. This would be nice. And unfortunately I get to, I guess my choice. Yeah, which is kind of, it's kind of crap. I, I, especially as a, um, as a coach, sometimes I want to go back and watch a match that does something or see if I can pull something from it. Right.
00:17:51
Speaker
Oh, well, I'll have to take better notes and do it real quick then. Yeah, I guess so. So anyway, yeah, those are those are our gripes. We must. And if somebody out there could ever just like do a good take an independent platform and do a good job with one league, don't over overreach one foreign league and just nail it.
00:18:13
Speaker
I would totally be right pregame shows halftime shows post game shows analysis Like that shit would be awesome. And I think it would help with the viewership because right now You're not you know, there's no real explanation and halftime. It just goes dead. They really do at this point They need
00:18:32
Speaker
they need a studio show, even if it's one of those like, you know, you look at the the halftime shows for football, and I'm sure a lot of it actually having now being able to see more games.
00:18:45
Speaker
in recent years than just the one that's being broadcasted all over the air. You notice that they probably, like all the highlight stuff, they just record that and then they play that and they might do a little bit of live banter during halftime, but most of that's recorded because it's all the same shit. Like if you actually hear it like two or three times in a halftime, you're like, oh, okay, this isn't actually live.
00:19:07
Speaker
But yeah, so they can still do that, but also have a little bit of commentary about the game you're watching, and then boom, you're done. It's really not that difficult, and I know it's a little bit more expensive, and that would...
00:19:21
Speaker
change things a little bit, but give us some presentation, give us some production. Like I said, one league and knock it out of the park. Make it a show. I will back that 100% and when I say back that, I mean watch it and financially back it with the best of my ability at least. So there's that.
00:19:40
Speaker
So let's talk about championship. There's a few that will go a little bit in depth and there's some that just need to be just in and out. That's it. I want to talk about sale. Lies. So let's talk about the Friday matches. They're both actually very good. Northampton just
00:19:59
Speaker
Cannot find a win. Oh Well, it's so infuriating for Chris Boyd. I'm sure just to watch especially the way Bordeaux were able to take it Yeah, well with with Cordero snagging that ball That's a sin. That's a carnal sin horrible. What's a carnal sin? That's bad
00:20:18
Speaker
Horrible, and then some selfish runs. Aiden Dorff and Furbank, I'm looking in your directions. You break the line, you get through, and then you just like, you get in a point where, look, maybe it's because I have a prop upbringing.
00:20:34
Speaker
But there comes a point in time for any rugby player, unless you're like, unless you're a wing, when you're, if you're, you know, or, you know, some of the backs you're expected to finish. But when you have players in front of you, on a line break, you need to give the ball. Like that's bottom line that should be, okay, I'm going to give the ball because there's a player in front of me. That means that there's only like, whatever happens, you know, maybe I'm throwing a dummy and carrying it through, but I'm at least having that ball out and ready to present and trying to throw it.
00:21:03
Speaker
Both of them, you know, Aydendorf had a great run and then just took it in when all he had to do was give it to one of the three people who was around him and it was a try. Have your eyes open there. Furbank something similar, but I think it was a little bit more questionable. I can't remember it. Now it's been too many rugby things since then. One too many. But yeah, just give the ball.
00:21:22
Speaker
and let the other guy score and you win the game. You know, that was it. It was a four point game. For all of Mark Hampton's possession, this should have been their their game. You know, lots of time in the twenty two just could not finish the damn job. Yeah. And that's that's been the story of the season so far. Yeah. But that's also the problem. They didn't really try. I don't think they tried enough to finish the job as soon as they got a penalty for the Saints. Well, actually for both teams.
00:21:47
Speaker
They just kicked for for points. I mean it was the team that scored a try that won. So what does that tell you right? It's true Yeah, they scored one try and that was it. It's all you know, so That's where you know We we are
00:22:02
Speaker
Well, I feel like I am and I feel like you're on board, but sometimes you're more conservative about it. But I'm not a big fan of going for points that many times. I understand it once or twice, but once you've got that in your back pocket, you've got to fucking score a try. Especially in this competition. You need tries to make it stop. This is not a penalty-kicking competition. It's a try-scoring competition, as we will see the rest of the weekend. Yeah, no kidding.
00:22:26
Speaker
Saints kind of have to eat their medicine and Bordeaux are snagging wind. Yeah and the only thing that kept Saints really in it was was Bordeaux's
00:22:35
Speaker
Discipline getting two cards awful, you know, who was the nine? Yeah Fuck that and he knew as soon as he did it that he was getting carded when as soon as they went to TMO anyway Good luck, it's like dude you gotta you gotta know
00:22:58
Speaker
Mm-hmm. So yeah, that's that's that's it rather than 12 Bordeaux 16 Bordeaux, you know and no tape does not dead in the water, but now they've got an uphill climb got it got start scoring points now The other Friday game again absolute, you know, and I will say this all the pro the Irish provinces are
00:23:18
Speaker
put their hand up this weekend, regardless of the result. Regardless of the result, I'll start to lose ain't no cupcake. And they, and they acquire themselves quite well. But just how fucking good is
00:23:36
Speaker
Oh, that guy I was like that he had that step. I'm like, that's that's that should be illegal. Yeah, that's that's a crime right there. They just did it just makes people look silly. Oh, man. He's he's amazing. He's amazing. Just absolutely amazing. Well, it wasn't just him, but no, the whole team was very good, obviously. But did he did he change that game? Yeah. I mean, his ulster work. I mean, that there.
00:24:02
Speaker
they were showing real attacking intent and and shown like it's funny it's the french flair and individual efforts and and and artistry versus the um the regimented
00:24:14
Speaker
Irish attack, but the regiment Irish attack was still in space. It was still open. You can be open and still have structure and Ulster proved that. You know, hats off to them for the job they did there. It's just the fact that it's really the difference is this is like water that Toulouse play in. And Ulster are still just sorting it out.
00:24:40
Speaker
And honestly, Toulouse have better players, to be honest. Yeah, I mean, 1 to 10, 1 to 15, excuse me. Yes, absolutely. There's no argument against that. Madigan served himself well in this one with Billy Burns still banged up. So there was a lot to like about Ulster's performance. But yeah, there's too much in that Toulouse team. And then we talk about Kobe, but best nine in the world? Yes.
00:25:10
Speaker
Anton DuPont, I don't think there's too many questions at this point. It's just maybe he does still make some mistakes, but shit, Aaron Smith will still kick directly to touch every once in a while. Every so often he has a shitter. And he's also kind of, you know, there's creeks in that armor too as he gets older and DuPont might be young.
00:25:31
Speaker
But damn damn, who would you want more? I mean or any of like Oh of the nines other nines if right now if you have him as a potential starter hottest nine on on the planet without a doubt I'm not starting anybody but him
00:25:45
Speaker
I mean, there's others that are showing promise, but yeah, I mean, it's not even the guy across from him who I know is not doing those spring chickens, but he's been on fire. He's an excellent scum half. Unfortunately, he's gotten thrown down the pecking order in Ireland. But yeah, he's still very obviously valuable to his club. But but not many can do what DuPont did there.
00:26:04
Speaker
I thought that was a knock at first because I wasn't paying attention too closely and I, it's a scrum. So I kind of like, when they go to feed it at that point, I'm like, all right, I kind of, I kind of see where this is going and start looking elsewhere. And so all this always the ball just bouncing around and it looked like it went off of.
00:26:21
Speaker
To me, coming back to it, it looked like it went off DuPont's hand forward, but no, it just went off his foot. He just missed it with his hand. And then it was like, oh, fuck. That was ridiculous. Quite good. Good. And shout out to David New, Gittman, the US international prop. Still a very young man, too. That's the thing. So US have a nice front row looking at that between him and the guy I played for Leon on Saturday as well. TV. Yeah, big guy. OK. Speaking of Saturday, let's go to the first one.
Bristol Bears vs Claremont Review
00:26:51
Speaker
This was when you talk about action packed, this was action packed. My goodness, Bristol Bears and Claremont just you couldn't turn your head away for a second. No, good shit was just happening. Yes. And.
00:27:06
Speaker
Yeah. Brace was not perfect. No. There's definitely reasons why that, again, he wasn't really terribly welcomed in France. Yeah. It's just too bad you had so much fucking abuse online. Right. That's not right. But at the same time, it's one of those Chris Rock things, like, I wouldn't do it.
00:27:28
Speaker
But I understand. Like, no, fuck that guy. Get him out of here. Put it this way, the Champions Cup should know better than to put him there. That was just up. Especially for a French team versus an English team. Yeah, probably not. I'm not the best there. But yeah, he kind of...
00:27:48
Speaker
Fucked around but at the same time bristol They were down 21 points before they like really got took off their training Yeah, they they kind of got their head their head up their ass as it were. Yeah Yeah, it's too bad that they that they started that way because they
00:28:03
Speaker
they finished better right by far um you know but the guy the back line especially of Claremont was just absolutely deadly right Matsushima was just yeah he was everywhere you know Mwala Mwala Nekolubu while he was on the
00:28:23
Speaker
While he was out there shot was uh, excuse me. Lopez was playing amazing. Um, yeah, it's Not a whole lot to be done. No, honestly, I mean that yeah, there's not many there's not many club teams that can withstand that kind of onslaught With uh that that um clairmont broad. Yeah, and then you have the likes of fritzley in the back row for for clairmont I mean vahama he said like
00:28:48
Speaker
He wasn't elbowing anybody, so that's a good sign. No, that was a good sign, but he also wasn't like, I think he had one nice ROM with an offload, but it's not even like they activated everybody, and everybody got that. No, well, you got to drop late, that didn't help. That didn't help that, but trust me, he's still good. Oh, by the way, forever and ever and ever, thank you, Jamie Heaslip, I love you so much. Yes, Bubbles. Ryan Burns, nickname is Bubbles.
00:29:15
Speaker
I want the story now. That's what I want. I want the story. But the Dodger was perfect. I don't know. But he gave the bread crumbs. He's like, who do you need to talk to?
00:29:29
Speaker
Um, Sean O'Brien. Yeah, he's like, talk to Sean O'Brien, but he might not be able to answer, because what goes on tour stays on tour. And he's like, all right. That was hilarious. Uh, yes. So, sorry, Bernie. You're bubbles now. Yeah. End of story. And, you know, not to say that Bristol didn't do anything. They did some great things, including guy playing fullback.
00:29:48
Speaker
Maxi. Yeah. Just picking good lines and making excellent decisions and the kids are stud. It's it's you know, we shit on how little Eddie Jones experimented this fall. But at least fucking do that in there because that was worth it. Yeah. You know.
00:30:06
Speaker
Right, and it's like one of those you say you kind of have to but he obviously he doesn't cuz he doesn't feel like he has to And if we're gonna talk about maxi, we got to talk about the other guy back there. Oh and Lloyd hmm Coming on right away. It's going to try I got this I've done this before did you not
00:30:27
Speaker
Read the sign that says all I do is score tries. Apparently. Why didn't you stop putting it on earlier? It's ridiculous. Yeah. The whole case is amazing, obviously. You know, I am growing into my affection for Purdy, Henry Purdy. And he had some good plays, but he also made some questionable decisions. And Owen Lloyd doesn't do that. So
00:30:53
Speaker
Yeah, we'll see we'll see what the lineup looks like. So for Bristol this weekend when they go to yeah, they're going to Ireland So we'll see how that goes. Yeah Yeah, just really good stuff all around Bristol acquitted themselves quite well But it's just a just a really tough tough team to come against first shot in the Champions Cup for a long time. So Better days ahead. Yeah, that's a learning experience. You know that was
00:31:17
Speaker
But what Bristol showed is that they belong. And that's the important thing is because they'll have all sorts of opportunities to get themselves back in it. And then, you know, as you said, this is their first shot in there. So they're building towards something good. Don't get there as always. Don't get there. And, you know, consider the bodies they're missing and right. All that. All that. And they're still reintegrating some of their nationals. So give them credit for that for sure. Something about just really heartbreaking results and the first round of the Champions Cup and the wreck.
00:31:47
Speaker
like oh oh bath and scarlets like and this is you know bath have are having a similar problem to north tampon they're finding funny ways to either come really close or lose and it's not great and i know ruiz was the referee and trust me i'll shit on him whenever i feel like him but i'm not gonna it would take me too long well let's also bear in mind that they didn't have their 10
00:32:12
Speaker
No, there was no Reese Preisland. Mattivacy played pretty well. Pretty well, but he's not. He's not the same. No, Reese knows how to control that game very well. Reese, Mattivacy, Redpath. I like that a lot better than Mattivacy, Redpath. And I don't remember who the option is. JJ. Oh, yeah.
00:32:30
Speaker
I mean JJ will be in the team either way. Yeah, either way So I guess that would probably end up being Reese red path JJ if you're if you're attacking yep and score If you need to score. Yep, I'm scoring so it was
00:32:44
Speaker
And we saw, we'll talk about the guys that did well for Beth and we'll go to the scholars because the scholars deserve all the credit in the world because they haven't played a whole lot of rugby because of the issues going on with COVID in Wales.
00:33:00
Speaker
How can they keep? Zach Mercer out of this lineup from now on they can't I really don't see how you do it that changed their whole everything about them Changed when he came on And it really showed that that because they had a lot of bruisers It was it was I thought it was a tactical mistake to keep him off in the first place Yeah, he was very hot looking at the least he's hot but like you look at that bath lineup and
00:33:27
Speaker
There's volatile underhill and williams But like williams isn't gonna win any races. I mean underhill will but really so like you have one fetcher In your in your pack at that point with your thunderhill. Everyone else is kind of a plotter
00:33:44
Speaker
Um, and this is not a plotting competition. This is a, this is a running competition. So I, I
Scarlets vs Bath Analysis
00:33:50
Speaker
would have just liked to have seen, you know, if you're going to do something like this, foul towel under Hill and Mercer, you know, put foul towel at six, uh, or put Mercer at six. Doesn't really matter. Put them back there at least. But put them out there and let them let the runners run. And that, that would, that it's so valuable. Um, and, and Mercer found so much space that just wouldn't have found.
00:34:12
Speaker
No, I'm not sure. I'm not sure Toby in Palletal has that. Yeah, same, same ability. So it was just, yeah, this competition, you know, you can get away with this in the prem, but yeah, the shitty the prem, the scarlets aren't that good. Now, but it's the competition that they rose to and, and Beth did not.
00:34:30
Speaker
no they did not and it was it was the two nines yeah doing the bulk of the damage for the scarlets with hardy and um davies and i mean this is what davies does right he knows where the scrum half lines are he knows how to intercept
00:34:45
Speaker
He, as much as Nines don't always score tries, he does it because he does those good. And as much as we glowingly speak of somebody like Cobus Reinack or Danny Kerr, this is what he does. This is his game. And he's obviously teaching the young kid hardy exactly how to do it. So Scarlett's have a little something to cook him with that position at the very least. That they do. Good on them.
00:35:11
Speaker
And then Lee half penny turning back the clock and knocking some pens over for his team's sake. And, you know, he's he this is this is what he brings is an experience because he's he's won this competition a couple of times. Right. You know, while playing in France with too long. So it's there's a lot to say about that.
00:35:30
Speaker
And, you know, as well as Bath probably, as much as Bath probably deserved it the way for the majority of the, controlling the majority of it. And we saw this with Northampton, same thing. You know, you got to finish. You got to get it over the line. And, you know, some guys got the job done for them. Mercer, Rory McConaughey was back on fire as he has been. Yeah, and those are the like.
00:35:55
Speaker
Right. Underhill had a great match, too. Yes. And on both sides of the ball. As England international, I hope so. Right. But I thought he did a lot more carrying than he normally does. I think I hope Stuart Hooper put that on him and said, you need to take charge a little bit more because you're an England international now. Right. You need to be a leader on this team. Yeah.
00:36:16
Speaker
And that's not his, he doesn't do that so much for, for England as far as a carrier. And he only had 16 meters, but still, you know, a clean break and a try assist is a lot more than two offloads. That's a, that's a lot of attacking work for Sam Underhill. Um, you know, the 16 tackles. Yeah. That's, that's.
00:36:33
Speaker
Fairly, you know, that's that's to be expected but um, but the defender's beaten and offloads is not normally his game So it's good to see him grow. Yeah In that respect and then you know, and you know It was just it came down to that goal line stand obviously with the scarlets just nutting up and and doing as they do And this is what you need to those are the championship Moments, those are these champion cup moments that you need to step up and say
00:36:58
Speaker
all right, we're here to really take this seriously and And just you know a couple held ups and you know, obviously ben spencer came up short and you know his His idea was was I thought they had and I thought they had advantage I did too. I could have sworn the referee said advantage right before then so it's like okay It's not a big deal and then he's like nope. That's the game and i'm like
00:37:20
Speaker
No, you called it. There was something there, right? No. And this is what a lot of teams that didn't quite get it done this weekend are very guilty of. They have advantage, and they try and plug away with the forwards. You have advantage. Score. Try something. Try something. This is what you do when you don't have advantage. When you have advantage and you can spin the ball wide, almost consequence free, you fucking try something. You have some very talented backs out there.
00:37:49
Speaker
Get it moving and you can put Mercer in space. Yeah, you can put the guy in space. Or under hill. Could you put him under hill with his speed and size? I mean, because it's different. He's he's not larger than Mercer. Yeah, he's a he's quite a thick body. Put him in space with that speed. Yeah, he's getting through. Makhani he's getting through. All you needed was five, five meters. Right. You can knock that over easily. God, Mattivacy probably could crash that over. Exactly. You know, so, yeah, just teams need to be. I want to see teams be a little bit more willing to spin the ball away from there.
00:38:17
Speaker
you know and everybody is everybody has you know everybody wants to be exit or exit or exit that's it that is it end of story right okay they're the ones that are that do that and they specialize for that reason and it's so if that part is so very technical has nothing but you have to work on it you have to work on it
00:38:37
Speaker
Otherwise, you're just going to be stupid because like and and that's one of the reasons why they can't spin it because they don't work on that stuff. They just work well as much as they work on the here's how we get these hard yards and you know, pick and go our way over a percent bath aren't them. So yeah, as you said and everyone else, you're not that just right. Keep moving along, please. OK, and then let's fast forward to Sunday.
Connacht's Resilience Against Racing 92
00:39:00
Speaker
I said all the Irish provinces put their hand up and quit themselves quite well. Comic especially.
00:39:06
Speaker
Here's the thing, there's a lot of places you can go in Europe and you just don't come away with points. Allianz was one of them, whatever, it's renamed to now, I don't remember. Tobin Park is another. And then
00:39:23
Speaker
rustling in general, but especially since they moved into La Defence is Really difficult even in the name. Yeah It's really difficult and then you know since Toulouse kind of has come back and and come good There there's is also a very Tough place to expect to get points from Name of the state escapes me and my apologies So anyway, these are not places that you go
00:39:55
Speaker
Ernest wall. Sorry. There we go. Got it. So for conduct to come to this To the la defense against you know a team like myself and many others have picked to be in the final and
00:40:11
Speaker
is just, and with the depleted squad they have, they have got so many injuries and guys that are banged up from Ireland or, and just to put their hands up and say, here we are, we are not the pushovers of this competition. And they really did a good job of it. And, you know, we talked about some of the, some of the absurd tries that were scored in this game, especially top of a new one. Oh my goodness. That is just,
00:40:39
Speaker
that is sheer ability, that is class, that you cannot do that unless you're special. End of story. And just to get it down and legs were in the air. Twisting around. Oh, God. There's just so much ability right there. Balled into one try. All that's, yeah. Yeah, so he's quite good. He's quite good. I agreed. So it was, and you look at the guys that are playing in the two long, excuse me, the Rossing 15 across,
00:41:09
Speaker
And then you look at the guys playing in the contact team and you're like this this should be a wash, right? You think it was almost like Leon Gloucester that we've gone except a little bit better opponent than Leon, right? And it was like Yeah, I mean you you look one through one through fifteen and even down to the bench with the likes of donica ryan and moshino and zebo and you're like
00:41:35
Speaker
Yeah, like if you're if you're Connor you need to go back with a hard-on from this this game This is a great game from these guys Bundy Aki did not start this match. No, we did not and you know, you had Kaitlyn play at Marmy It's not bad by any means whatever but I think blade might be the slightly better of them to him and yeah, you had guys Butler came off and was done and that's one of their bear ball carriers and better defenders and
00:42:00
Speaker
And they did a great job. Dennis Buckley played his ass off. Jack Hardy certainly is putting his hand back up because he got kind of thrown by the wayside for Ireland as well. Alex Wooten with the intercept try. And the race. And that's a gamble. And he outraced Teddy. Teddy's almost very fast. You could say that. And he's still outrated. You can see him like you saw Wooten ease up, like probably around the 40 meter line and not realize until about the 22 that, oh, wait.
00:42:30
Speaker
I gotta go. Yeah. Gotta go. Gotta go, kids. Gotta go. Dad's gotta go, kids. Wait, I'm tired. Fuck, I got 20 more meters to go. No, you're not. Go, go, go, go. Keep going, dude. If I was the contact coaching staff, I'd be very happy with that team performance that was just on
00:42:50
Speaker
Unreal to you know France have had their Their restrictions raised unfortunately, so they don't have any fans right now either. Yeah so it was probably a little bit to do with that, but just
00:43:02
Speaker
the defense that they put in against some big boys and Camille Schatt left the smash as well kind of really early. Yeah, 18 minutes in. Less than a deal, obviously, but just, again, for a losing team, I'd be so damn proud if I was con, you know, that was a lot to have to withstand. The only thing that they have to feel shame about is that they let the ugliest man in rugby score try against them. Yeah, Kirtlett Beale.
00:43:30
Speaker
Yeah, it was a good drive. It was a great drive. Beautiful drive. Yeah. And, um, Rocatow was up to his old trip again. So he's okay. Shocker of the day. I know. He's all right. Yeah. So it was, um, it was very good stuff from, from the, um, one of the guys from Galway. So we'll see, um, Bristol, we're gonna have a fight.
00:43:52
Speaker
This weekend, that's for sure. Yeah, this is gonna be this will be a good match to be a match that nobody that not as many people watch More people will watch it just a little bit because I'm Bristol This is a match to watch, you know, if you have a choice between one or two I don't know if they're on the same time as somebody else No, it's the last match of the weekend. Oh Don't go away tune right in kids tune right in dessert. I promise I promise it'll be worth it and
00:44:18
Speaker
All right, um, we don't have many we have some overlapping matches, but yeah nearly as many as last week Yeah, well you'll probably still see some similar windows just the same um Let's let's go through the other ones. We didn't get too Deep on too on sale kind of upside kind of ugly I mean peruse with the over with the with the sky hook. Yeah, well done, sir. Well done
00:44:42
Speaker
Did you actually, did you see that? Did you go back? I went back and watched the highlights here. Yeah. Well done. Well done. Seรฑore. And, you know, first off, you know, when it's, um, uh, Yard, Marlon Yard and James Phillips are scoring, it's garbage time. And I think, when did they score? When was that garbage time again? Uh, Phillips was like 70 odd, wasn't it?
00:45:07
Speaker
Yeah Yeah, I can't remember either but it wasn't it wasn't really garbage time yet, but it was garbage time. I mean It was like 30 minutes to go. I think at that point. Yeah, I know I guess you are 65 and 69 minutes. So yeah garbage time. Yeah, and then Louis carbonyl Doing as he as he did the week before he's not playing quite well So good good for so too long might be around for this competition. We'll see I
00:45:34
Speaker
I think I think I actually called that if I'm not mistaken, but, you know, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I had them advancing. Yeah, we'll see. And Montpelier Lancer Lancer just controlled the match the whole time. It looked like. Yeah. Nothing. Nothing new there. No, no, no, no, no section starting. No problem.
00:45:52
Speaker
No problem at all. It really did. No armor, no ring rows. Didn't really matter. This is an excellent Lancer team. They look geared up, ready to go for a run here. Yeah, they're fine. And they weren't really playing an opponent that was really challenging him too much, so. Yeah. Hey, shout out to AJ and TT for getting in there. And obviously, AJ did what he could, but shit. It's always something you can do against Toulon these days. Yeah. If Dragons were a better team, Voss would have been in trouble.
00:46:21
Speaker
Definitely dragons were very depleted. Yeah, they had a couple of covid cases that popped up late Ashen you it was one of them who's definitely one of their best outside boy outside Yeah, one of their best backs period right because they had to start what's his fuck? Yeah, somebody out wide there Yeah, Jonah Holmes the guy couldn't even start for Lester. Yeah, so it was Yeah, and and you know the the wasp
00:46:46
Speaker
Jack Willis did their job did their job. That's it. Yeah, yeah. Jack Willis did did amazing things pretty well. The wasps did well without their 10, right? I mean, yeah, Charlie Atkinson, um, Charlie Atkinson did quite well, acquitted himself extremely well, did quite well. Yeah. He's um, there's something there. Yeah. Something there for him. So it's like, thank God he didn't get knocked out again. Yeah. It just took him a little bit. Well, he wasn't playing fast. No, he wasn't playing fast.
00:47:12
Speaker
Yeah, and and Alfie Barbary running it just looks he you know, we talked about Zack Mercer. He's like Zack the chunky Zack Chunky little boy still that baby fat And Dan Robson as always just yeah. Yeah, so if it's not Spencer needs to be him at nine for England I don't understand youngs anymore. I really don't know
00:47:34
Speaker
And wasps are yeah, they they they need to be better but at the same time um, you know having having umaga at ten I think would have Uh would have been a different story with a different story. So, you know, both both teams kind of struggling going in and and The better team won. Mm-hmm. Then that's just and then that's how it's gonna be. Um, yeah Edinburgh, La Rochelle
00:47:54
Speaker
Will skeleton and that's it. Yeah, really like that's it. That was an awful match Neither figure out how to get or get themselves down the field Yeah, really, you know just and neither could hit a kick like no just you know, the King Horn try was very good
00:48:11
Speaker
What? Oh, this was the match that we didn't have the store. Yes, that was it. Yeah, so as you can imagine, we were bored of shit, so of course I'm going to find something to cry about. So there you go. And I think the only other match at the time was... Oh, no, that was it. No, this was the last one of the day. That was the last one, yeah. So that was it. There was nothing to do. No, there was a whole lot of nothing to do that day. Oh, well. Yeah, sorry, I ran out of ideas, guys. Leon Gloucester, you know,
00:48:39
Speaker
So let's start by saying Gloucester had some good players. They did well. This was a crime that George Skimmington committed here with these kids, unfortunately. It really was. It was unfair to them. So Leon did as they were supposed to. Super not unexpectedly by any means whatsoever.
00:48:59
Speaker
Good on the young glosser kids a lot of them really put their hand up to say negal taylor Yeah, they were mentioning even on the broadcast that he was so he they're they're they're scared about his size And god damn it. Can we stop being fucking size queens here? It's not kings for kings Like it it's not about the size of the guy if he can find space he will find space like
00:49:27
Speaker
You're a tough bugger. You're a tough bugger in the store and and Sebastian Nagel Taylor Stand up take a bow and throw both middle fingers in the air towards all the haters No, you belong you're in And there's others that that that too that
00:49:46
Speaker
that acquitted themselves. Well, Moyle is really showing something. Yeah, I like that. Trinder, we've always loved Alex Morgan on the pod. Sorry, dude, you got the wrong name. Different Alex Morgan. Same number. Yeah, yeah. Not quite as attractive. Sorry, Alex. We like you and all, but no. Yeah, we like you, but you're not the Alex Morgan that plays for the ladies.
00:50:13
Speaker
The women's US women's national team. Yeah But yeah, they all played all the young kids really played well Unfortunately the and part Barton too. Let's not let's not forget him. Yeah, I thought you know, we talked about the revolving door of tens that yeah, I gloss surely They might have a stopgap at the very least with him
00:50:32
Speaker
But ever, you know, and I will say this, Jamal Ford Robinson, too, you know, he might not be one of the young pups and he might be well traveled. But dude brought it. He absolutely brought it. Yeah. And deserves more. You know, if this was truly like kind of the all the all slob lineup, which it wasn't exactly wasn't wasn't.
00:50:54
Speaker
Um, but he doesn't deserve to be on the, you know, this was like a, this is almost like the probables versus a possible team. Um, but, but he's, he should be into the way he's played. Um, it's been fantastic. I agree. And then over to Tomin park where again, it's very difficult to come away with a whole lot. Um, Munster very much back into their regular form. Um, you know, they don't have carburetor and they won't for a while. So.
00:51:19
Speaker
Hand her a hand doing the job and then shit. Why is it young kids you loved him? Yeah Yeah, he was a he was a he wasn't so bad now between him and
00:51:37
Speaker
The baby one, the young scrum half there. Goddammit, wise eyes. DC? Yes. Yeah, between the two of them. Pretty good. Yeah. And then, you know, Tug Barn's just doing everything a lock should. He's launching it. Oh, that was...
00:51:52
Speaker
gorgeous altitude that was a hoof god um and the best part is right after that it was uh no who was it who returned it it was was Nathan Earl or was it mike brown it was mike brownie it was brownie just shanked it like that was from basically from the monster like five meter line
00:52:15
Speaker
And and they get the line out just outside the 22 of yes, that's embarrassing Oh man, so and just some some ugly play from Quinn's with what three cards Yeah, the whole back row that cards card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card card
00:52:44
Speaker
But it was that was the match that was being called. So yeah, yeah, I think I think just the way it started off was how it was going to go. Yeah, that's that's it. So yeah, Quincy need to definitely step it up if they can keep alive in this one because they got some real tough competition coming to town. Also, but Kaden Murley looking. Yeah, he's on the comm as they say. Yeah. So yeah, nuts.
00:53:05
Speaker
Not so old and seems to have uh, have a little something into him. So, um, just get like northmore out of there. I don't know what the hell he keeps pumping for it. Just right. He's not that good. And and tap away actually, I thought played all right, but there was a time where, uh, they threw him on a line that really should be left for policy. The big bowling ball. And I think that's, you know, as much as it's funny because i'm going to backtrack on myself a little bit, but I think it was just the quinn's lineup was very light.
00:53:33
Speaker
It was not yeah, there's something to be said You don't have to have size to in order to be tough in order to be a great rugby player But there are points where the whole thing adds up and it's like, okay We can just push you over you have to have someone who's in the backs who's capable of running a straight north-south line And and beating defenders that way and tap away ran the line very well. He's just not big enough to do it. Yeah
00:53:57
Speaker
No, sorry, big guy. Yeah, not your thing. He's not finding space. No, not any time today, buddy. Sorry. So, all right, so there's that. Man, that was, that was fun. So, I'll just name the top four in each.
00:54:12
Speaker
pull a and then b we had wait say that again uh lenster was too long la rochelle okay there's the four a all right four for the ones you had there uh leon exeter clermont and talu's um currently in the top four of pool b i had some of them um so we'll see how that goes yeah leon's point differential kind of helped yeah um then then obviously the exeter oh shit we need to talk about that but
00:54:36
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, that was class. I mean, their their class and Glasgow were so banged up and they kept getting broken. They kept they had a last minute lineup change. They were just. Oh, yeah, it was not. No, it wasn't good. Glasgow like.
00:54:53
Speaker
Yeah, it was exactly like we said, you know, that was the grind it out strategy that can still be Glasgow. But even when, I mean, shit, the backs found space. When Ollie Woodburn and Tom O'Flaherty are finding space. There's a lot of space. Yeah, that's not good. How you got over, like, yeah. Yeah, it's true. When all three of the outside backs for Exeter are
00:55:16
Speaker
Find lots of room to operate there's and they're being and are running with the ball in hand That tells you that Exeter are are finding space and yeah, just you know, not afraid to use it. LASGO are Unfortunately, very over mashed in this competition right now. They are no Hastings and just depleted and yeah
00:55:32
Speaker
The it's not a knock on them. It's just you know, and and on top of the fact that they're playing the defending champions It's right didn't help them at all. No, um, but uh, exit are all right send a message. Yeah, they're still they definitely are Putting that flag and we will see this coming week. Yeah, we'll see just how just how strong that should be interesting, um to the champion league champions cup
Fantasy League Highlights
00:55:56
Speaker
Round one. Ben gets his dollar back. Fuck yeah. Big numbers. Big numbers. A lot of big numbers. All across the board. Well, Skelton had 15. Yeah. And was definitely one of the better scores of Laura Shell as a lock. Right. Not bad. Not bad, Big Willy. As we expect from time to time. Yeah, let's just run through the results here.
00:56:23
Speaker
Carrick was able to take care of Mark. Mark had a tough week. We talked about Ben and I. Anton, George, George got to get off the Schneider at some point here. Yeah. Justin picked up a loss. He's not picked up too many wins recently. And then obviously Duncan had the top score of the week in the league with 160. Damn it. So close. Yeah, you were pretty good. And Anton was right there at 156. Pretty good stuff.
00:56:52
Speaker
um let's talk a wee bit about our start on the sit um and we won't spend too much time on it but um scarlets and tulon anybody that you want to play in that um scarlets might here's the thing you guys start thinking about the teams that are going to advance even after only one round tulon louis carbonyl is probably worth a go um
00:57:16
Speaker
you know, Parisi might be worth a go. Moyano played well. Their front row was pretty good. Toyava might be another one in there. And then maybe Saram. That really does it for you. And then
00:57:27
Speaker
Scarlett's Davies in half penny That's it. Yeah, that's what I said happening in gap Davies. Yeah, the only ones So yeah, so really not much there and you know if you don't have Especially the scarlets if you don't already have them don't don't don't get you Joe chasing too many of them wasp Montpellier a lot of wasps
00:57:48
Speaker
Yeah, i'm looking to start, you know willis robsen umaga should be back goppers will be better. Um, I'm sure I think the other name that I had in my head, um, their front row Well, all the ways they're from that one and then um, and uh basset scored quite well this past weekend because here's the thing basset and kabiriki switch off so you have to like figure out which one and sometimes they both go off so you got it but it's you know, I don't know that I don't think that uh
00:58:15
Speaker
How did um, how did kibrini do this weekend? Uh, not fantastic No, he got 6.7. It's just not that's not going to kill you, but it's also not what you expect No, it's not what you're looking for. They're not what you want. Uh, no, especially in this competition where you need you're going to be 100 and a half easy, right? Probably so you you really want a 10-point minimum Um, if you can especially in outside backs, it's probably up to 15 You're probably yeah looking somewhere between the 13-15 So bass it'll
00:58:41
Speaker
Pass it or kibirigi will do well, but uh, or maybe both but fuck if I know which yeah, no kidding. Um, if anybody knows which Unfortunately for for glasgow unless q jones starts i'm not playing anybody. No, i'm not playing anybody and that's only if I happen and then leon um There's a lot to like not to I you know, obviously this new ski was good
00:59:02
Speaker
Bust as a midfielder playing eight which could be worse, right, you know, he's getting the ball a lot So that that's how that goes crazy. We'll find space this could this could be another train run. Yeah. Oh, I totally will Yeah Because it's gonna do well as a walk that's goes a better defense, but oh Fingersome from Glasgow. That's that's who I that's another one. Yeah, he'll assert himself the way glass goes Sorry the way Gloucester's
00:59:30
Speaker
Scores did that when he ran and they've been booked for holes. Ferguson does that but he's the only one on their team that does And don't go fetching him if you've already got a good lineup, right? So if you have him playing but other than that Yeah, but in the off-front row if you don't have the owns front row at this point that's a good one that like I would be looking at Leon players now because
00:59:50
Speaker
Glasgow are with their head their their tail between their legs Gloucester their tail between their legs Leon will be playing in the the next round if you've got a feeling they're gonna be So so I would I'm I'm starting I would be looking heavy at uh at Leon for for players, right?
01:00:08
Speaker
Northampton and Leinster will have a lot more to pick through. Bigger was obviously one of the best. Aedendorf played well, but I don't know if that's going to happen again. Hutch. Ribbons has played very well in there. What's the space? Lhasa Stelissa has a lock in this competition.
01:00:27
Speaker
An FRD so might be worth it might not be I don't know He's not a runner though. No, he's not. He hasn't been for a while, right? So it's not really gonna be like his value will be in the stolen line out and Turnover and that is in this competition
01:00:43
Speaker
Not questionable. Yeah, not great on the other side of the ball. I mean the names, you know, you're gonna play them. Yeah, let's play them all. Yeah, play a lot like Northampton no matter what. Give early. They are leaky for the most part, incredibly leaky. So and especially at positions that that lens terrifying tasty.
01:01:02
Speaker
Yeah, you know, I assume we'll see Larmor back in Ireland since they're gonna be back in the island. Yeah ring rose unless he's hurt Oh, he's hurt ring rose assuming he's not banged up too much Oh, yeah, and yeah henshot like the guys that you're thinking of even the guys that scored well this past weekend if they're playing Play them play them. If you have a spot playing Vander Fleer is a big go get it. Yep. Go get him
01:01:24
Speaker
Cameron Doris big He's done I mean both of those guys are taking in your league if you don't have them somebody else does but If they're not somehow, yes, snap them up quick La Rochelle bath Mercer if priest is back probably him. Yeah and scurry. Yep Under Hill. Yeah. Oh, yeah Mercer and scurry. Yeah, and everyone else. Yeah, I'd say to everyone else. Let's wait to see if priest is back
01:01:51
Speaker
Yeah, um la Rochelle Skelton played well bought him Uh, but he uh might do better. I don't know Yeah, the nines are a little fishy and the nines and the tens for that team are real fishy right now They are. Um, so i'm thinking it's going to be uh west will be the starter and then also but The flankers nines tens and outside backs are where you want to wear bath is leaky. So um all three
01:02:20
Speaker
Yeah, Gregory Aldridge will do quite well. We'll do very fine and then rule leads and since I'm on rule Yeah, he may get another one against Beth he might he might he may might so at least back it on La Rochelle's home turf there Yeah, Gloucester
01:02:43
Speaker
Wait, oh, I looked at, okay, let's look at the wrong one. Gloucester and Ulster. Okay, I went the wrong way. Jeez, I mean, a lot of Ulster guys, Jacob Stockdale, played quite well this past weekend and it showed on the scoreboard as well. Cooney, Madigan's a worth a start if you need to fly half in this match likely.
01:03:06
Speaker
There's a there's a few guys if he comes back from his uh, there's a little knock there. Yeah Um, yeah, although they might sit him because fuck they don't need they may yeah, they may they may dial it back I don't know they need to score some points though. They maybe they might know that true. So um, you might see full war here, uh, clementon and munster Playing to pick from here. Um, should be an interesting game. It'll be back on clementon home turf at uh, myself michelin, so
01:03:32
Speaker
Mm-hmm. It's got all of Claremont to go. A lot of Claremont should be good to go. Their entire back line. You know, Yato should be healthy again, hopefully. Sylva Mahin just slides back into the second row so that we don't have a lock on the flanker. On the flank, thank you. Prince Lee is just because he always has been. That center pairing is deadly. You know, that's just not fun to go against. And then, yeah, Matsushima, he's going to stay hot. I don't care about Munster's defense, quote unquote. No. He's going to stay hot. So keep rolling him out there.
01:04:02
Speaker
I'm sure we'll have players to players to play as well. Um, uh, Connor Murray's not the nine that you want in this company. No, unfortunately, um, hand or hand is probably worth the start. Murray does well in, in leagues where, uh, there's, there's scoring for kicking and, and passing and stuff like that. Yeah. TRM does really well in six nations. Um,
01:04:22
Speaker
Yeah, and that, you know, we'll see what the outside backs start to do. I thought Connelly and Earls had potential to bust loose in that, in that Quinn's match, but just didn't quite get there. Just didn't happen, yeah. Tyburn, you better play him if you're playing him. You're playing him. I don't care what team they're going against. If he's going to keep scoring points like that, do it.
01:04:39
Speaker
Um, so we'll see how that goes. Uh, Bordeaux and dragons play a lot of the Bordeaux guys. Really? Really? There's a lot, there's a lot to pick through there. Um, Jallibrech should be healthy and starting this time. Yeah. Yeah. So dragons still underpowered. Yeah. God.
01:04:57
Speaker
Roberts did pretty well. So if you have him you might be okay playing him But I'd start to look away from them because you're not they're not moving on. No, they won't Yeah, but if you're desperate for him midfielder, he's If you have if you have guys who were maybe aren't playing this week and you need a fill-in He's he's a good fill-in. Yeah, fill-ins good there sale Edinburgh. Good God
01:05:20
Speaker
Just fucking avoid this match for every reason possible. Don't watch it. Don't start anybody. I mean, look, there's just two people worth starting this match. There's only two Priya and AJ. Maybe Kinghorn on the Edinburgh side. Yeah, Kinghorn on the Edinburgh side.
01:05:38
Speaker
but the but the sale are so good on defensively he's not going to get points that's the hard part so it's like that there's the problem these are two fairy defensive teams they're going to look at like so here's the thing if someone drops the ball if it just sits there
01:05:53
Speaker
Both teams are going to look at it and say you pick it up. I want to play defense No, no, you pick it up. I want to play defense No, you do it. No, you do it. No, you do it Yeah, it's gonna and then the referee will just be like what the fuck guys. Yeah, let's go with that That there is my impression of the sale versus Yeah And then Sunday Quinn's wrestling should be interesting
01:06:17
Speaker
Rousing teams play better. It depends on if quince quince need to play a lot better. They did not play well not well at all. Um Yeah, marla was a bit of a helmet as he tends to be sometimes. Yeah, um not helping his team at all No, but they weren't helping themselves. Like he said, I mean, he wasn't one of the he didn't get carded He wasn't one of the guys right? Yeah card with all these cards getting handed out. I don't think louise played did he?
01:06:43
Speaker
No, they're the beasts in that play They need some leadership really that's what it is. I mean, yeah, you might be right about that, you know outside of their front row Their backs are still at the back, you know, the yeah locks on brain access three or not or you know that don't bring care Marcus Smith
01:07:03
Speaker
Care, yeah. And maybe not care. But Dom Brandt's like 22, 23. You know, Care is the guy who's really, and you know, and the back three are really brown and early. You want your 9 and 10 to be able to steer the ship though, so. And Smith is still, he needs some help with that.
01:07:20
Speaker
I think, I think Lang playing 12 would be better for his sake because Lang's a little more experienced. I'm not saying Lang's amazing, but he's a little more experienced and 12 can kind of help steer the ship with 10. You see it with Goprath and Umaga. So it's not a bad idea to do that. Right. That's kind of what I'm seeing is they don't have a Goprath there to steady the hand of the 10 who might need it at times. Because we know the absolute amazing ability that Mark Smith possesses. Because he's ridiculously better than Jacob Umaga, but
01:07:49
Speaker
there's some but umaga kind of has the help that he's got that he's got that study hand that's kind of guiding them through it so we'll see we'll see what happens with that um to yeah here we go Toulouse and Exeter
01:08:03
Speaker
Oh, you never when I said about sale versus Edinburgh picture the exact opposite of that. This is the opposite. There's only one match that you can watch if you if you're in a in the the the dog house or something like that and you really can get only get away for for 80 minutes worth of rugby. This is it. This is it. This is a rematch of the semifinal last year. Oh, man, this should be interesting to say the least. So you're picking through some players here.
01:08:33
Speaker
If we come to Cordero's back you're gonna play him Definitely, it would be interesting to see how this back three extremely talented plays against the to lose back three again extremely talented Boatloads of talent everywhere all over this field. I'm not a fan of into Mac right now because he's not playing ten He's not taking the kicks, right? So that has me a little bit worried with with with him there. I
01:08:56
Speaker
Ramos is absolutely a go right now. Yeah, even if he's playing ten because he's taking the kicks So that doesn't that doesn't hurt you so much there Joe Simmons did just fine. Obviously. I don't see him slowing down. So go ahead and roll him out there as well See, I don't know Yeah, I mean Dupont Colby duh, right? Yeah that kind of goes without saying we'll see if
01:09:25
Speaker
because you know there was a guy I was thinking might do a little bit better and that was Tolofua and he didn't so Kind of disappointing on that one. Maybe Kano gets gets healthy for this one. I'm not sure So we'll see Yeah, but be very interesting This is an Exeter team that are very good as fancy defense So just keep that in mind to lose did let up plenty on their end. So I
01:09:53
Speaker
Maybe just kind of pick and choose your Toulouseans and then go with your your extra players a little bit Yeah, I would I still think that you know the certain Toulouse players you got to have to ride or die with them. Mm-hmm, you know, yeah bench or bench or otherwise Yeah, right. But yeah, and those are the guys who are gonna be you know, you know who they are Yeah, they're names that roll off the tongue quite easily if they don't then question it and maybe Yeah, I think I had telephone one of my teams oops that did not go well, um
01:10:22
Speaker
Yeah, and then the last one of the weekend. Again, there should be plenty to pick through here. Whether or not either one of these teams rides it out and gets to the next round, I don't know. But if you have some of these players, then you can feel comfortable starting quite a few of these players in this Conact and Bristol match.
Player Performance Predictions
01:10:41
Speaker
We saw Porche is a midfielder. He's playing fullback.
01:10:44
Speaker
Joe, that's a go. You know, Jack Hardy should be should be serviceable in this match because Bristol do surrender some points. Oh, yeah, so it's gonna be it's gonna be a slug fat, like not a bad kind, like the kind where both teams are scoring points. Just like the last Bristol match. Yeah, exactly. So and then the guys that scored for Bristol last time are probably gonna do it again. So go ahead and just feel good about that.
01:11:07
Speaker
So if you had one of them, play them. Because it should be almost a similar result of 10 plus points for a good majority of that lineup, if I remember right. I think Lihua didn't do well. And that was about it. That was about it. So we'll see how that goes. But it should be a fun match, just the same. And on the other side, Connick, they have some back growers that are probably spare and on the way forward. So should you bump into it and be like, I need a big home run right now.
01:11:37
Speaker
might actually be worth the gamble. So we'll see. Okay, lots of fun. Lots and lots of fun. Okay, let's do pick them. We got separation this week. Boom. Yay. I guess you can see which way that works. I was like, all right, we're gonna either have separation or we're gonna come back down to two and two between the two matches. It was separation, thankfully, for me at least. Listen, we've had separation this league before and it's swung back and forth a couple times.
01:12:05
Speaker
I'm not counting shit. Okay. Um, scarlets and too long. I think it's ugly, but I think the French get it done. Yep.
French Team Predictions
01:12:18
Speaker
So there's nothing there. I agree. Wasps at 3-0 or 4-0. Yeah. So you're going to take them here. Leon Glasgow. I don't do it. Get the job done. They could put in, again, a very French away performance, which we didn't see too many of them this weekend because of no crowds.
01:12:37
Speaker
are Glasgow good enough to win? I don't know. That's the thing. Even if Leon Lee shit a complete egg, I still think they'll get to win. I think Glasgow at this point are just like, we don't want to like, I don't want to die. Right. I'm not trying to break. This isn't they know they're going to be like, they're not going anywhere already because they got Exeter again to look forward to. Yeah, at their home.
01:13:01
Speaker
So this is this this they may rock up for this one, but that would be it after that There's really no point to know them. So leon just I think leon just need to get an early edge and it's over likely Well, let's start in north hampton. Sorry north hampton. Yes, your misery continues. Look to the prone next weekend Um la rochelle and bath. This is in france. So i'm gonna take the french They're very tough. They're very tough to be on their turf and I don't know that pre-slend will be back
01:13:31
Speaker
Yeah, not guaranteed. We know what Gloucester are doing in this competition, unfortunately, so I'm gonna take Ulster. Me too. Just really sad to see. Claremont and Munster.
01:13:44
Speaker
Um, I'm going to take the team that played a little bit better, just by a little bit. And when I say that, I mean that in the most sarcastic way possible. I'm going to take Claremont. Yeah, me too. They just look powerful. Bordeaux and dragons. Bordeaux is probably going to get through this unscathed now that they got through Northampton. Certainly. Now they got through the Northampton match away. That was their toughest task probably.
01:14:09
Speaker
And dragons are are again, just a depowered not ready for primetime. Yeah, not quite there. Sorry guys. Um sail edinburgh Nobody Whoever wins the sinkhole comes in takes them both I'll take the guys at home. I'm going to take their edinburgh Okay, that way we at least have some separation. There's some there you go more separation or less. Hopefully less That's not
French Performance Inconsistencies
01:14:36
Speaker
bad. Okay, um
01:14:38
Speaker
What the hell? Sunday. Sunday, that one. Quinn's in Rossing. Rossing. Yeah, I can't go with Quinn's the way they're playing, and I can go with Rossing the way they're playing. Yeah, absolutely. Although this is where I could see a French performance coming in, but I think Rossing are a little too good for that.
01:14:58
Speaker
Yeah. And Harlequins aren't good enough to right now, at least the way they played last week. Not good enough to overcome any mistakes they make.
Toulouse vs Exeter Anticipation
01:15:07
Speaker
Yeah. Here we go. Here's the one. Here's the one. Toulouse and Exeter. Do the Toulousians get the revenge?
01:15:15
Speaker
I hope so. I think so. Being in on their home turf, I think is going to do them a world of good. This is the match. If any, if there was one match that Exeter have been preparing for mentally and physically this year, it's this match. It's right here going on the road at Toulouse. This is the best team that they'll play in a spell. Quite a bit, yeah. And they have been just
01:15:45
Speaker
angry at teams they've been red sagging teams it's been bad um and and it's not just like we're beating you yeah okay we win the game it's like we they're they're we're out to crush your soul they've done that to a few teams i would say that's the attitude they need to take into this match and um yeah i think they do it okay
01:16:07
Speaker
Ben's taking Exeter.
Bristol vs Connick Scoring Expectations
01:16:10
Speaker
Conak and Bristol, as well as Conak played, I think Bristol just outscored them and that's just how it goes. Because Conak don't quite have the ability to score at the pace that Bristol do and that being the problem. Conak aren't going to do to Bristol what Claremont...
01:16:25
Speaker
No, was it did I get that right? Yeah, it was Claremont. Yeah did them last week They're not gonna get up 21 nothing in the first 20 minutes or whatever it was and and and Bristol are now Like they got punched in the face. They understand what it means. Mm-hmm Yeah, I think they can outclass conduct. I think though I think they'll get done Pat Lam plays his old team along with a few guys that are On the squad now, so we'll see. All right, so we can have some more separation or we give you back even we'll find out
01:16:53
Speaker
But other than that, um, yeah, this was good Make sure you check out our friends Email questions fancy rugby podcast at gmail.com regular questions or stuff that you want talk about on episode 100, but Yeah, this will be another fun Champions Cup weekend and good luck to everybody out there in FRD land Cheers