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5. Pocahontas Mu-Gone To Space
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Adrian and Simon address the announced nominations for the 72nd Emmy Awards ceremony airing in September. Additionally, they discuss the fidelity of James Cameron’s Avatar 11 years later, the potential for the continuation of Zack Snyder's DC Extended Universe, and Disney/Pixar’s upcoming 2021 animated movie, Luca. As a conversational podcast, we invite questions and comments to be featured on our show. Please send your opinions to splitfocuspodcast@gmail.com or @Split_Focus on Twitter to be showcased on future episodes.
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Introduction and Personal Updates
00:00:05
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Bye-bye.
00:00:22
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Hello there. Welcome to the fifth episode of Split Focus, a film and TV podcast. My name is Simon Edie, and alongside me, I have my co-host and Suveed Fanatic, Adrian Pinter. How's it going, man? General Kenobi, it is going. Oh, so great. How are you? I'm fairly okay, but what's going on that's so great for you? Oh, you know, I recently got a promotion at my job. Oh. I'm on a bigger and better things.
00:00:52
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We'll find out. Hopefully it works out. That's great news. Yeah.
00:00:56
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Is that it? That's all you have. You know, we're another week closer to me getting my beautiful dog, Ellie, my little princess. What is that happening again? That is on August the 20th. I ensured that in my new position, I could still get those days off. So I am happy about that. It was a Husky twirl mix. No, no, it was actually a golden Pyrenees, which is a great Pyrenees mixed with a golden retriever.
00:01:23
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Oh, yeah, the mother is the golden retriever and she was she had intercourse with a great She had intercourse with a great bear knees dog To create my little princess and my soon-to-be princess Ellie Eleanor and Just another week closer my lovely girlfriend. She actually set up a
00:01:47
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a really cool thing for my birthday it's coming up it's coming up soon in a little over a week we'll still have another episode prior to that but the monday that it releases guess what it's my birthday and for that she made a really cool creative sort of like birthday gift sort of thing where every day leading up to my birthday i like punch a hole through this cup thing i know
00:02:09
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punch a hole. Yeah, fist. Yeah, with my fist. It's like these cups on this Bristol board, essentially. And they're, they're listed for every day in August, leading up to the 10th. And I hit it and then I find this little icon. So for this morning, I did the first one. It's a little thing. When I punched through it, it's a, it was a soccer ball and there's 10 gifts that she has laid out for me. And there's, I know, I know.
00:02:32
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I went pretty ham on her birthday and she's a guest trying to one up me and there's a soccer ball. I feel like this only leaves room for disaster. If you keep wanting one upping each other, I know eventually I'll have to kill her anyways. Um, that's the solution. But anyway, yeah, I know I'm not going to kill her yet.
00:02:50
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Anyways, uh, so there's a soccer ball on one of the gifts. So I opened that and then there's things in there. And, and for that, it's, uh, it was a soccer ball that you got as a gift. Yeah, exactly. How did you guess that? No, it is not. It's a little soccer ball on the gift. It's like her card essentially thing. I mean like, Oh, get ready for your, both the gifts. And then, um, like the money she's putting towards miss, uh, my little princess Ellie as well, which is really nice.
00:03:13
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So tomorrow morning, when I wake up, I get to open my gift 2, gift 3, gift 4, all the way until the 10th of August. Like the 12 days of Christmas, except... Except it's the 10 days of Adrian's birthday. Which is far more important than any Christmas ever.
00:03:29
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So all I'm saying is, yeah, it's going to be a good couple of weeks. I'm getting ready for it. And then literally the day after my birthday, I start the new gig. So that's exciting. But yeah, what's new with you, man? How are you? I haven't spoken to you since quite literally the last podcast because we don't talk outside of this podcast.
00:03:45
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Of course, I don't know, same old, same old stuff. Just staying at home, trying to stay sane, types of things. Going to the grocery store. Oh, the grocery store. I've heard of that. Yeah, that's, that's it. That's my, that's my life. Oh, that's very boring. I make, no, I'm not, you know, entertaining anyone here.
00:04:00
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What did you purchase at the grocery store last time you went? I got a sous vide. No, you didn't. You lied. No, I didn't. You lied. Are you? I thought I'd try to entertain you at least. I love the sous vide though. I know. I know you do. What did I purchase? I purchased food at the grocery store. What a silly question.
00:04:15
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Well, obviously, I was more referring to the specific food. I got some plum sauce, some potstickers. Oh, dude, I love. Did you go to Costco? Yeah, I went to I actually got the potstickers from Costco. Dude, I know exactly because I haven't had a delicious the pork ones, the pork. They were recommended. The blue ones. It's like a blue package. Blue packaging. It looks like it would be there'd be shrimp inside. Oh, you know, I can ice. I understand where you're coming from. Clear with blue. Yeah, it is pork and accenting.
00:04:44
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I can't wait for you
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half the reason I ever go to Costco. I sometimes don't even buy things. I just walk through Costco. You do not. You go to Costco for free samples and that's it. Exactly. Are you a homeless man? I could be. I'm not. But if I was, that's definitely where I'd go for some food. Anyways, I was walking through the aisles.
00:05:24
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And lo and behold, there's a lovely, lovely lady standing at this little booth. And I was like, hi there. Nice to meet you. My name's Adrian Pinter. No, you did not. I did not. Anyways, I started speaking with her after she was like, I'm making pot stickers. And I was like, what are these things? I've never had a pot sticker in my life. She fed me one, grabbed, grabbed it with a chopstick, inserted it in my mouth. I started chewing. Is this post COVID or pre COVID? This doesn't sound safe.
00:05:50
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It was a year ago. If you were paying attention to my story, I led with that. Anyway, I'm sorry. I just feel like I've been in COVID-19 pandemic for a thousand million years. Literally. It feels like that. Does it not? It's been a while. Yeah. Anyways, I had the pot stickers and they were delicious. And then I bought a few packs. And since then I ensure that I always have a pack in my freezer.
00:06:11
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That's just so. I'm not even joking. Wow. I don't have one right now though. I just ate it. I just made them. You want to just stop the podcast and we can just go make pot stickers? Okay. Okay. No. All right. We're back from making those delicious pot stickers. Those were absolutely delicious.
00:06:27
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I'm a big fan of it. I think there was a bridge of my laughter over when you said that, so I don't think that would be some premediting. They're really good potstickers. My recommendation though, when you're making those potstickers, so obviously follow the instructions. That was my intention. Yes. But my big suggestion is dice up half an onion. So once you get the one side crispy, toss in your onions in there, cook them with the onion, Simon, get a piece of garlic ready as well.
00:06:55
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Why wouldn't you cook the onions first? Because, Simon, the onions will burn prior to the crispness of the potsticker. It's very obvious. When I make pierogies, I cook the onion first. They don't burn.
00:07:05
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Yeah, but you don't, you don't do crisp up your pierogies. Yeah. I don't know how you're cooking these pierogies and you're, I guess a master. I'm pretty good. Anyways, what I'm telling you to do is you crisp up one side of the pot sticker. Right. You can flip them. You toss in the onions. You saute those onions a bit. You toss in a few cloves of garlic. You mix it up and then you put in like the soy sauce packet that they give you. Squeeze in half a lemon or a lime. Just do it.
00:07:29
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Just do it. Just do it. Turn off the heat, toss it a bit, put it on your plate, delicious. I didn't buy any lemons. That was a mistake. It wasn't. I will, uh, I'll bring you a lemon tomorrow. I'm not going to talk to you when I do that, but I will bring you a lemon tomorrow. Okay. That's because we don't talk outside this podcast. Is that correct? Never. Never. Right. Not even once. I don't even know how we decided to start doing this. Honestly, it was difficult. It was very difficult. I would say, yeah, there was a lot of messages passed through different people and various sources.
Comic Con Highlights and Movie Critiques
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I'd like to start this podcast off with a little bit of show corrections as we've done in the past. I love show corrections. There are quite a few corrections this time from last show. We talked about quite a few topics last show because of Comic Con at home, which we're going to dive into a little bit today as well because we're going to talk about the Justice League Zack Snyder cut. But the first correction was a mistake that I sort of made. I made a reference on the last episode to the Netflix show, Mr. Show with David Cross and Bob Odenkirk.
00:08:25
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And I kind of referenced it as something that's similar to the Thomas Middleditch and Ben Schwartz improv special. They're not really that similar. One is a live studio audience, certainly with Mr. Show. And the other one is more of a standup special type gig with the Ben Schwartz and Thomas Middleditch. I just wanted to clarify that just because again, we believe on our show that what we say matters in terms of accuracy.
00:08:49
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And there's a lot of misinformation floating out there. And so we wanted to make sure that we're as accurate as we can. The second correction is that the fear of the walking dead is not in fact show run by Scott Gimple. I don't know if you didn't know that or I didn't know that here I am to set the record straight. Set it straight.
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After season eight of The Walking Dead, AMC executives made a change and promoted Gimple to chief content officer at AMC, specifically for The Walking Dead TV franchise. There was actually a fear The Walking Dead showrunner change because they changed it from Dave Erickson, who ran the show from seasons one to three. I love Dave Erickson. Andrew Chambliss and Ian Goldberg. Gimple was showrunner for the original The Walking Dead series from seasons four to eight.
00:09:33
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And now sits as an advisory role in an advisory role on the both shows and the new show that's coming out later this year. If all things go. Fear the walking dead. It's just a bunch of kids.
00:09:45
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Right, like Fear of the Walking Dead, but it's a bunch of kids. Yeah. What's the name of it? Do you remember? Yeah, I just said it. It's Fear of the Walking Dead. It's a bunch of kids. No, it is not. It is not. I don't recall. It's like something in the world. The world is run by a bunch of children during a zombie apocalypse. Well, no, they're traveling across America and it's a bunch of teenagers as opposed to, you know, the least favorite thing in the world.
00:10:05
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So anyways, last week we specifically said that Scott Gimple was the showrunner for Fear the Walking Dead, so that's where this correction comes in. It's not correct. He's not been a showrunner for a year at least, just because they...
00:10:17
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promoted him actually, so I don't know if he's not loved. He's been promoted at AMC. Honestly, you know what? Good for him. Some people blame him actually for fear of the Walking Dead regardless, just like you did. Even though he's not the showrunner. The advisory role that he's sitting in, they believe that he's actually causing issues in that role, and he influenced Andrew Chambliss and Ian Goldberg enough that they
00:10:40
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ruin the show. I don't know how much influence he actually has though. There is a, I noticed, I don't know if you've looked this up at all on the internet when researching this specific topic. I discovered something called gimple speak. Have you heard of this? No. Yeah, gimple speak is basically when some of these characters start to ramble and start to talk about their own internal morality. And so the one character that really suffers from this probably the most, I don't know if you can
00:11:07
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tell me, but Lenny James. Yeah. Lenny James is a great actor, by the way. He's fantastic. I really like Lenny James. I'm very excited for him to be an invincible. Yeah, for sure. I just realized when I was reading both Gimple speak, that's my biggest problem with The Walking Dead is that people just keep rambling about how they're, they're ethically sound or, uh, I believe that the meaning of life is this, like, I don't care. Like it doesn't matter. Show us with your actions.
00:11:33
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Yeah, it's kind of like what they did with Carol, who I think still was an awesome character, but they really, they did the gimple speak to her, apparently. That's what the biggest criticism of him is. But if you look at some of the episodes he's written, like even before he was showrunner or while he was showrunner in season four,
00:11:50
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Some of them are pretty great, like Angela Kang, who's now running The Walking Dead, like the original series. She's got really great episodes in there, if you look at what she's written. And it doesn't seem like, again, he was an advisor for The Walking Dead show as well last, for season nine, I should say. I guess for season 10 too. But for season nine, and we both watch season nine, and I think we both agree that it's a great season.
00:12:12
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Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure that he's I don't know Maybe Andrew Chambliss and Ian Goldberg are also not the greatest and so the combination of him advising for them He's there apparently the reason Morgan moved over from The Walking Dead Scott Gimbal is the reason apparently that's that's the rumor But I guess because he's he's now in charge of all the franchise, right? So he controls everything and as a result He can move characters around all he wants as well as the movie that they're making The Walking Dead movie apparently
00:12:41
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Well, it's nice to know that now I can not only blame one person, but three people. I think it's mostly the show runners. For the shit show that for the Walking Dead season, season four was. Yeah, like you're not the only one, certainly. Looking at the problems, people really don't like four and five seasons. And they don't like seven and eight for, again, the original AMC, the Walking Dead show. They just don't like it. But Scott Gimbal has been in charge, at least he was show runner, from four to eight.
00:13:09
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And four has arguably one of the best episodes of The Walking Dead. The season four mid-season finale is fantastic. Yeah, he's not all bad. So I think I will give this man credit where the credit is due. Sure. And hopefully with The Walking Dead world beyond. Ah, nice. He'll do a good job. The kids. The fear of The Walking Dead with kids. Fear The Walking Dead with kids. I think that's a better show name. I'll be honest with you. I think that's a better show name and I think they should have done that. But anyways. Or The Walking Dead fear the kids.
00:13:38
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what okay the third correction was also something that i tried to reference but i didn't actually go the full nine yards i mentioned that there was certain actors or actresses that won an award for best actor while only having a small amount of screen time the actor that i was specifically trying to reference was anthony hopkins who won for silence of the lambs
00:14:02
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and is obviously is that's an incredible role. The most creepy performance is so great, obviously. I would say it's the the second creepiest Hannibal performance after Mads Mikkelsen's rendition in the Hannibal TV show. I don't have as much perspective on that show. It's fantastic. I mean, Anthony Hawk was one best actor. Yeah. Mads Mikkelsen went in. You just said Mikkelsen. I just followed your lead.
00:14:30
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He's going to be another correction next week. Regardless, Anthony Hopkins won for Silence of the Lambs. He was only on screen for 16 minutes. 16 minutes and he won Best Actor, Not Supporting Actor, Best Actor. Oh my goodness gracious me. It's pretty cool. Good for him. I'm proud of Anthony Hopkins. I'm going to send him a letter telling him that I appreciate his work and the Silence of the Lambs and
00:14:54
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Westworld. In Westworld, he's fantastic. He's amazing. I would... I love him. That was... yeah. I wish you would return in some kind of Westworld iteration.
00:15:04
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They should do, uh, Westworld, but it's run by kids. Yeah. You're the kids. Alrighty. Adrian, what have you been watching this week? Anything, uh, fun, anything great? So do you remember last week when I mentioned I would take the time to watch Avatar? Yeah, I do remember that. I haven't watched it since the, the theater experience in 2008 or nine or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Did you, did you do it?
00:15:28
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Yeah, guess what? I did. I did too. Oh my gosh. What a twist. What a surprise. Honestly, I never would have guessed that in a million years. Of course, because we don't talk outside the podcast. We never do. So how would we know? I don't even know your name, man. And you've already told me it for five episodes. I still don't remember it. Yeah, that seems unlikely. How is Avatar?
00:15:44
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I still don't like it. I'll be honest. You still don't like it? I still don't like it. Interesting. I think in terms of its visual style, I think it still holds up. Surprisingly, I think it looks really great. I watch it on my OLED and it looks fantastic. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, so how did you watch it? Did you rent it? Did you watch it on streaming services? I watched it on Disney Plus. Disney Plus? Yeah. So I did as well, of course. Did you notice the resolution that it came out in?
00:16:09
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I assumed it was 4K. It was not. It was in HD. HD. It was just in full HD, which I found surprising. Oh. I'm not sure. It looked really good still. I'd have to look up to see if there's some kind of version that's in 4K. It surprised me that they hadn't remastered it in 4K. Everything defaulted. It's on my Apple TV 4K, so it should have defaulted to 4K if it was available.
00:16:29
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It did look good to me as well, but also the processing, and you have a Sony OLED, the processing in that does a lot of great upscaling. So it takes a 1080p image. It makes it look a lot crisper. It looks amazing. It did look good. It was surprising. I agree with you. The graphics were quite good. It's better than a lot of things that come out even today. Some things, yeah. Not everything. There's still some moments where it's jarring. I think you might have picked up on them, but there's that first spot where Worthington's character, what's his name?
00:16:57
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Jake. Yes, Jake Sully. He's running from the giant beast. It's kind of like a panther. There's a moment there where it runs too quickly and almost reminded me of Spider-Man 1 where he's crawling up the wall. There was a moment like that, but there's only a couple and it's 2009.
00:17:13
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So it's pretty remarkable how it stands up from having been the age that it is. But yeah, what else? No, like, yeah, no, I definitely agree with that. I think there were a couple moments where it looked almost like PS4, like high quality PS4 graphics sort of thing. It is kind of like that the whole way in a way, though, isn't it? Yeah.
00:17:34
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I don't know. I think some of it. It's not unreal, but it's just it's very much an animated movie. Yeah. It's just another version of the animated Pocahontas. I mean, uh, fern gully. Yeah, fern gully. Um, but yeah, like I thought it again, I think it looks pretty fantastic. It's absolutely amazing that something made over a decade ago still looks this fantastic. I got to give credit where credit's due. The sound was good as well. Yeah. James Horner's score was really good.
00:17:59
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It does sound great and the score is great, but man, what a long, boring movie. It is long. It's too long. It's like near three hours. 40 minutes. And it's just like, dude, literally Disney told the story in quite literally half the time, two decades ago. You know what I mean? In Pocahontas.
00:18:18
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There's a comparison online. I don't know if you looked it up, but there's a comparison of the script or synopsis, I should say, for Pocahontas. And they just scratched out various details, like the names of people. Like so Jake Sully was John Smith as an example. So they just threw the names in. And it's funny how well it lines up.
00:18:37
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Except for maybe the end of the movie because I think they added a big chunk. They did. The movie should have ended at about an hour and like 50 in because that's when like things start to, I guess the shit hits the fan. There's so much of this like, oh, I'm going to go back into this avatar body, even though I was just removed from this avatar body, but I'm going to go to this other station that everyone, it's not good. It's not a good movie. Like, okay, sorry. Let me take a step back.
00:19:04
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It is a good movie. In terms of its... Oh, you did like it a little bit? No, no. In terms of its aesthetics and its audio, it is a good movie. But the story is just bland and boring. It's way too long. Michelle Rodriguez is in it. And I don't think I've ever liked any character Michelle Rodriguez has played. No offense to her. What? Why?
00:19:23
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Because she plays the exact same character in every movie. Exact same. From Resident Evil, like the first Resident Evil movie, to Fast and Furious, to this. I liked her in Lost, Ana Lucia. You liked her in Lost. Yeah, she was cool. Nobody liked Ana Lucia. Nobody. Except for you, apparently.
00:19:39
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I didn't mind any character in that show. It's a good show. I don't like Analucia. Well, no, don't get me wrong. I think she does a good job portraying these people, but I always hate her character every single time. I'm not saying- Why did you hate her in this? What did she do wrong? She's just annoying.
00:19:55
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like ah I'm a badass blah blah blah blah blah and it's just like shut the fuck up like be something different again this is nothing to say against Michelle Rodriguez I genuinely think she nails the part every single time but it's just the same thing over and over and over again and I'm sick of seeing her play the exact same character in every single movie she is in
00:20:19
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When I see her, I'm like, all right, she's going to be this. Oh, like I'm really clearly in this movie. I know. And every time I saw her, I was like, oh, just shut up. She's, she's an unlikable character. However, the, my least favorite thing about her in this movie is she choose gum. So obnoxiously, so obnoxiously. I just want to, that's a criticism. I just want to grab it out of her mouth and put it into mine. Three of us to show her how to choose gum too loud.
00:20:49
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It's just so obnoxious. Like, again, I'm sorry about any of you listening to this and me making that sound, but God damn it. Did it frustrate me? So your two criticisms are the movie is just too long and Michelle Rodriguez choose gum far too loud.
00:21:08
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Also, I think Jake is an annoying character. I don't like Jake. I do not like his character at all. I think the whole... It's just so predictable. Speaking of Jake, it looks just a little bit like Sam Worthington. Like, where has he been? Is he not in anything anymore?
00:21:23
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Yeez and stuff, but I feel like he's not in as many things as I thought he would be having been a star like Zoe Saldana has been in a ton of things Yeah, she grew up after them. Yeah, and she's fantastic in this even though you never even see her face Well, you do let's mocapped. Yeah motion captured. Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean, man, you know
00:21:40
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Yeah. Yeah. You don't see her directly. She's willing to do those roles often, which is impressive. Like some actors don't want to do things like that. There's a rumor that Tom Cruise was in the running to play Iron Man, but because he had to wear the mask, he wouldn't do it. So they couldn't see his symmetrical face. Yeah. Perfectly symmetrical face. Correct. I don't blame him.
00:22:02
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But anyways, so that, that kind of annoying me, I didn't like Jake. The movie itself just reminded me of a less cool and interesting Halo to a certain extent. Halo? That's a comparison. Yeah. It's not the same by any stretch. I see maybe the technology that they're using. Yeah, but like, I don't know. I just. So Halo of course is the popular Microsoft Xbox series on the Xbox video game series. Yeah. Just for context.
00:22:26
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So, I don't know. It's fine. Like, I don't know. I'm just ripping on it. Again, like it's not a bad movie. The animation still holds up. The world is great and well-built and it's a cool idea. I just don't think the execution is all that great. And again, I don't like many of the characters in it. I really like Ripley. Sigourney Weaver's character. I think she's cool and actually interesting and three-dimensional.
00:22:53
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And again, I like the... what are they called? Asari? You know, the names of the... I think they're the Asari. Unless the Asari are a different alien breed. Natori?
00:23:04
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Natari the Navi the Navi are we talking about? I don't know man. I really like the hell is notari It's a not it up. Yeah, it's not an Atari. Okay. Yes No, I like both watch this. We should probably know the terms. Well, that's a little boy. It's pretty forgettable I genuinely did fall asleep part way through it and then I finished the rest of it I like woke up and then rewanded it and then finished it is a long movie. Yeah, I just think that is too long
00:23:31
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Okay, so my issue with this movie, so I also only watched it last in 2009. My biggest thing about the movie overall is I think it was created as an experience. So when Martin Scorsese says it's a theme park film, this is to me the definition of what that is. I think Marvel movies have way more of a plot than this movie does because this is a plot of Pocahontas almost beat for beat.
00:23:55
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And they went for the graphical fidelity, I think, on a far greater scale as an experience versus focusing on the plot. My examples of this are there's moments in the plot that don't make any sense. For instance, in the very beginning of the movie when he initially gets put into the new avatar body, he breaks the entire lab. And I can't understand a militarized place in space
00:24:19
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They wouldn't just say, no, you're not going out there now because you just didn't listen to anything we just told you. You remember that? Yeah, that's a good point. He almost breaks the entire thing. My girlfriend and I were just sitting there and we're like, why is he able to just do this? Just shut him down. Just fucking kill him.
00:24:34
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that was a shoot him in the frank him and he's done now he's not going out there and they get mad at things so easily they throw them in the break so easily for things that arguably he kind of didn't cross the line as much as even just that to me like that was a weird one he completely breaks the place apart he's in support in it for sure
00:24:52
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It's strange and they never, never dissembled him by the way at all. There's no discipline. He's never even like, yeah, you're right. He just meets up with Sigourney. You forget it because you're like, Oh wow, this is so weird. Get back here. Get back here. You son of a gun. And then they're so blue and they're so tall. Yeah, that's too blue. I don't know about that, but no, honestly.
00:25:12
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That's the issue for me. I don't think they were suffocating for days. There's other moments like this as well that just don't make sense. And it's just they're plot holes, arguably. Yeah. So one point as well, right after that scene, they go out on a mission and the scientist, Sigourney Weaver's character and the other gentleman, I lost his name, but they go out and they're wearing the avatar suits as well. There are millions of dollars of product, essentially. They tell you multiple times how much these things cost to build.
00:25:39
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and they go out there alone, only the three of them, they tell the army men from the helicopter to stay at the helicopter, we don't need you, we only need one guy with a gun. A guy with a gun who hasn't walked in how many years? Honestly, I've never seen anyone in a wheelchair ever use a gun.
00:25:58
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No, he was in the arm. I know, I was kidding. Obviously. But anyway, sorry, I'm getting wrapped up in this. I'm getting wrapped up, Adrian. So that was my point is that that moment, they're just on their own and the scientists can't use a gun at all. So I'm not going to defend themselves.
00:26:13
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So all of this who knows how much these things cost billions of dollars millions of dollars We don't know but they're these seven dollars alone And this we find out very quickly that that forest is extremely dangerous. There's two creatures that are like will kill you Well, they lead with that with the with the comic book style villain guy. He has a scratch on his face Yeah before they even go out. He's like my first day out there. I got a scratch on my face They could have removed it but yeah, I wanted to remember what he described it as and it's just like you already you
00:26:42
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what do you mean like you guys are just letting these these people just out there for no reason it's ridiculous it doesn't make any sense it doesn't there's also a moment out where i don't know if you remember this but i was paying attention to even like the small details to some extent because i knew we're going to talk about it on the podcast and so there's a moment where sagroni weaver's character says to the other character they're both scientists of course they're part of that scientists team jake soli was brother to the other scientist that died
00:27:09
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I'm guessing because they were going out on these missions. Anyways, I digress. They're sitting there and they're taking samples of a tree or some plant. And Sigourney Weaver literally says, you just contaminated the sample. And the other scientist says, oh, I did? And I instantly said, who are they just sending anyone to space?
00:27:31
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What's going on here? We're sending NASA astronauts to space. Are we just sending any Joe Blow to space? Actually, that's part of the plot of Space Force, which is kind of ridiculous. I don't know if you watched that. It's a moment where they send these people who are just completely unqualified to space because the guy who they're trying to hire tries to ask for more money and they just don't have the budget for it. So regardless, again, I digress. But the point was, this guy's clearly not an expert if he's contaminating a sample and he doesn't even notice.
00:28:00
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He's also a very unlikeable character too. Right, but he was like supposed to be this goofball scientist and he was angry at one point then happy at one point and initially he was kind of the comic relief it looked like in the very beginning and then he contaminated his sample and then he was really mad at Jake Sully because he was jealous. It was just a strange mix of things. I just think that a lot of these characters were just designed to serve the plot of let's show how cool our technology is for this computer graphics.
00:28:27
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And the rest is Pocahontas in space. And that's my criticism of this movie. Is it a bad movie? No, there are elements that are great. Again, the graphics are great. It is visually quite nice. There are moments where it's quite neat. In fact, I really like the idea of the hair link to the creatures to be able to control them. I think that's really cool. I almost think this would work better as a video game.
00:28:48
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Dude, oh my gosh! As soon as you said that, I literally wrote this down in my notes. I was like, the movie feels like it's a CGI trailer for a new game coming to the PS5. Like it's made by Gorilla. Yeah, Verizon. Yeah, exactly. The very popular PlayStation. That's actually a note I wrote down. I'm so glad we're on the same page for that. Look at us. Yeah, that's- Maybe we've linked our hair together. Look at us. Yeah. Who would have thought? Maybe we linked our hair together. The weird part about that though, the whole like linking thing, I think it's a cool premise.
00:29:16
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But they bang the same way as they link with their horses and animals are they I didn't notice that is that something that happened Yeah, they they connect their hair together alien sex scene Yeah, you know what I thought of when I saw the alien sex scene instantly was shape of water
00:29:32
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Oh, yeah. It's a great movie. It's so weird. But that movie is original. Yeah. And it's fantastic. It's a little bit uncomfortable at certain points, but it's pretty great. Yeah. Yeah. Like the idea that like they bang the horses and those weird dragon creatures, not actually like they create a bond. I don't think they have like genitalia as far as I'm aware, because there's the scene where like Jake Sully and Navi Zoe Saldana are like making out and they connect their hair together to like create a bond or whatever.
00:30:00
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and they don't progress any further. So my assumption is that's how they mate. So are they? Yeah, maybe. Are they just banging these horse-like creatures and the dragon stuff? Oh, that's weird. You know, that's one thing I took from it. Again, that's one thing. Another piss off of mine in this movie, I know this is kind of nitpicky, but they keep on calling those animals horses.
00:30:19
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Like, oh, these horses. Did they actually call them horses? Yeah, they, they like mentioned it's like a horse type creature. Like, oh, like they're, they're horses. Well, they're saying it in English. It's like a whole language built. But then name it something cool. Name it something else. Like, yeah, maybe you've gone this far to create a really awesome design. Almost reminds me of like chocobos from like final fantasy as an example. Right. And then you proceed to just call them horses.
00:30:42
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I'm like, come on, think of something cool. Call them. Um, I can't think of anything right now, but if they're announced, but they're also in another galaxy potentially. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you call them horses? It's just an odd choice. I was wondering if that's just, it's like leaked over from English because they were teaching them English. So there's a concept that they, they made it, I don't know, consciously. They chose the two races decided that they're so similar to horses, even though they're not really that similar to horses because there's a hair link thing. Yeah. That's unusual. I don't know.
00:31:11
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I'm curious to see what they do with the next four movies because this is, I mean, Pocahontas. Do you want to watch those movies though? Like genuine question. Does it interest you? I want to see where they go. They're so hyped up. It's just so strange. You realize this movie was also nominated for best picture. It was. Yeah. Gladly. I'm so happy that it lost to Hurt Locker, but never watched Hurt Locker. I still want to watch it. It's really good. Yeah. Imagine this one over Hurt Locker.
00:31:37
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That's like a Black Panther one. No, it's not even close. I think Black Panther is a better movie. Black Panther is more original. And it's following the Marvel formula of Iron Man and Doctor Strange and the ones that have come before it. But it takes moments where it does something different. And I don't find that this movie did that much different except for the CG element and the fact that it's in space and the natives are blue and not human.
00:32:01
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Yeah, anyway, I'm glad we're on the same page with this. It's kind of nice. It's kind of nice to know, like, I don't know, maybe there was a bias going in, but I went in like really wanting to like it. And then I came out and I did too. But even when I came out of the IMAX theater, when I saw it in 2009, I was confused because I didn't understand why people liked it that much. And I don't really, I really like movies that people like.
00:32:22
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Except for Batman versus Superman, which people really hate and I really like. I love Batman. I usually, if somebody likes a movie or a large group of people or most of the world like a movie, I'm not gonna say, no, I don't like it. It depends on the movie, but I don't know. This is an odd one to me. Yeah. Cool. Anything else you watched?
00:32:37
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Um, so actually this is going to be a relatively quick one because I don't think you've watched it. There's not much to say, but I watched the movie guns akimbo. Oh, okay. Starring Daniel Radcliffe. I haven't seen it. No, Samara Weaver weaving, Weaver weaving, Samara, weaving. It's Samara weaving. Last answer. Final answer. Locking it in. Nice tribute to Regis. I like it. Thanks man. Thanks.
00:32:59
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Anyways, I watched it. It's not a good movie. Let me just say that. It's incredibly self-aware, which I appreciate. It's a ridiculous premise. There's this weird like online like streaming service sort of thing that people watch. They get two people to try to kill each other and you know, people watch it and
00:33:19
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It's just not good. The benefit of the movie, the only reason why I think it's relatively watchable is because it knows what it is and it's very self-aware. But it's edgy for edgy sake. I don't know, like one of the characters continuously says retarded for the sake of being like this edgy character, you know, and again, it's ridiculous. What's a guns akimbo? Like, what's a what's an akimbo?
00:33:41
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It's when you hold, when you're dual wielding weapons. Oh, is that like a term that I just didn't know? Yeah, it's in Call of Duty and stuff. Oh. So, uh, the premise of the movie is, you know, Daniel Radcliffe, he, he's like a troll online and then he gets like beat up by these people that run this network that again, like live stream people trying to kill each other. And then he gets two pistols stapled to his hand.
00:34:05
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And again, it's a fun premise. It's cool. But the execution is just so, so cringy. And I can't hammer that home enough. It doesn't matter how self-aware you are, but when the dialogue is that cringy, it is ridiculous. It's not good.
00:34:22
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It's a fun watch. Don't get me wrong. I was like, I'm having fun. But there was too many times where just die like what's happened. And I was like, why? Why? If I was maybe 12 years old, no offense anyone that enjoys this that it is above the age of 12. But I feel like I would have liked this in my teens like my late like my early teens.
00:34:41
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Because I'm like, oh, this is cool. This is people killing each other. And and, you know, they're doing quirky dialogue, but it's dumb. It is dumb. And although you're self-aware and you understand you're dumb, it doesn't make you any less dumb. You're still you're still dumb.
00:34:57
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That's for her. You know what I mean? Sure. That's really all I have to say about it. It's this edgy flick. So disappointing. It is not something I would ever watch again, nor would I ever recommend it to anyone. Gotcha. Again, I love Samara Weaving. I think she's fantastic. And I like that she keeps on signing up for these random, ridiculous roles. Like Ready or Not is a fantastic. I love Ready or Not. And it's a ridiculous premise. And there's a, I can't think of a name right now off the top of my head, but it's the movie where she's in with Steven Yoon.
00:35:25
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where it's essentially they like have like a drug or like some sort of weird poison gas spread out throughout their workplace and they lock up the workplace and everyone tries to kill each other again she she keeps on taking these roles with such ridiculous premises and she embodies the character she plays fantastically and knocks it out of the park but again the writing in this one is just so bad
00:35:47
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And so cringy, I just could not get over it and I can't recommend it. Daniel Radcliffe is fantastic in it again. They, I think they try to do what like, they try to act like, Oh, this is how someone react if this is their personality sort of thing. But it, I don't know. I don't think it nails it. I appreciate its self-awareness and all that sort of stuff. But I, I would not recommend this to anyone. Stephen Yoon movie is mayhem.
00:36:13
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Mayhem. Yes. Yes. Yes. I didn't realize some more weaving is in three billboards outside having Missouri. Yeah. Isn't she the daughter? Yeah. I just forgot that. Yeah. Yeah. Which is also an incredible movie. That's one of my favorite. That was my favorite movie of that year. Was that 2017? Yeah, it was 2017. Yeah. That's uh, that was my favorite movie of that year. Cool man. But anyways, I guess that's unfortunate. Yeah, it's not good. I also watched more quibby and so I watched most dangerous game a little bit. I didn't get to do the full thing. I'm really liking it so far.
00:36:42
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It's great. I think it's really good. I like Kristoff Waltz and Liam Hemsworth is very good in it so far as well. It's a cool premise. I got to the moment just when he's starting the game.
00:36:54
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Oh, so like episode four, right? The end of episode three, you finished episode three. Again, I can't fault Quibi. I just think that it's quite good. The name is terrible. The price is bad. But I think that again, it's got some good comment content and I like the style of it, the concept of it. It's kind of annoying to have ads in between each episode. I'm getting, as I watch more episodes.
00:37:16
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But if it's cheaper because there's ads, then I'll accept it. How long is each advertisement? Oh, it's short. What, 10 seconds? You remember.
00:37:24
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No, I did the full, I did the non advertisement trial option. Oh, I see. Did you buy the second month or no? No. Oh, you chose not to do it yet. I'm going to. I think I'm going to because I wanted to watch Die Hard. And I watched Die Hard all the way through. So I watched Die Hard all the way through. Good. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Yeah. I thought Kevin Hart was really funny in it. I think most notably John Travolta was hilarious. And it's extremely meta. It's a very meta kind of concept.
00:37:53
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Because it's based in reality, am I correct? Like Kevin Hart plays Kevin Hart. Hence the name Die Hart, I guess. It's pretty good. I enjoyed it quite a bit. It's really funny. And again, the concept is Kevin Hart is trying to be an action hero as opposed to the action sidekick, as he always is. And they reference Dwayne The Rock Johnson and how he's the comic sidekick every time with.
00:38:15
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in a lot of Rock's movies. And then he has to go to a school for action training that's run by John Travolta. John Travolta does not play himself. Am I correct about that? He does not. Okay, he plays the character. Okay, I just want to be clear.
00:38:31
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Basically, to be cast in this action movie, Kevin Hart has to go to this action school run by John Gervolta's character, Ron Wilcox, in order to be trained as the action leading man to this movie that he's about to be cast in. And that's kind of the premise that goes from there.
00:38:50
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It's pretty interesting. I like it quite a bit. Again, I recommend it. Quibi's cool. I think Quibi is neat. And the one thing we mentioned the last time, and I've been doing this more and more because, again, I eat while I watch shows a lot of the time, is the idea of air-playing something or casting it to a television. I would like it that they had some kind of autoplay and maybe just add Quibi as a service that's just built into an Apple TV or add it to an Android TV, Android Fire TV, Roku, etc.
00:39:19
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Just make it easier. I know that it's built for on the go, but we're stuck inside still. And who knows how long we'll be stuck inside. Just make the change. Add that in. Lower the price. And then people will start buying it. Please gosh. Yeah. Die hard. Definitely recommend. I'm looking forward to the fugitive series with Kiefer Sutherland.
00:39:38
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Ah, dude, yeah, me too. Me too, actually. That's, I think, I'm gonna renew it at that point. I'm gonna give Quibi a full $10, because you know what? Although I don't think it's worth it. You know what? I'll give him 10 bucks. Disney Plus is the craziest value and it's nowhere close. So good. It's got so much more content. It doesn't make sense. Just lower your price. Anyways, are we onto the news then? I think so. I think so. Sounds good. Number one.
00:40:06
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As reported by website IGN, director Zack Snyder has claimed that Joss Whedon's 2017 theatrical cut of Justice League is separate from the DC Extended Universe timeline, and therefore not canon. Justice League was initially being directed by Snyder prior to the director having to step away for a family emergency. Joss Whedon was then hired by Warner Brothers to finish the film,
00:40:28
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while also overseeing extensive reshoots. Since that time, many fans and critics alike view Justice League as a conflicted movie, having been created by two differing styles of direction. Zack Snyder has recently referred to it as Frankenstein's monster.
00:40:43
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Snyder is currently working on his Snyder Cut release of Justice League for HBO Max and was recently interviewed at the Comic Con At Home Justice Con panel about the movie. When asked whether he would use any footage from Joss Whedon's reshoots, he said, quote, I would destroy the movie. I would set it on fire before I use a single frame that I did not photograph. That is a fucking hard fact, unquote.
00:41:06
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Oh my goodness. For one, I think that is the first time I ever heard you say the word fuck and two. It's literally on tape in episode one or two or three. I also use a quote. I say it in a quote at that point as well. I don't think there's any evidence. Anyways, I'm really on Apple podcasts.
00:41:25
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Go on. What do you think about this whole situation? This is awesome I'm really glad that Zack Snyder's going like a full ham on that and good I don't think the Justice League movie deserves to be canon in the DC you extended universe in the DC extended You see extended universe. Thank you. Thank you. DC EU the DC EU the DC you
00:41:47
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yeah anyways i'm really glad about that because that movie i know we've we've seen this a bunch that movie's not good it's not a good movie it's just so average it's just not terrible it's not even average man it's just not it's bad it's a bad movie they didn't do a good job
00:42:02
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No, it's, it's disappointing, but I agree with that conflicted. I put that in there because I also believe that I guess, but it's such a conflict. It's a tale of two directors and it's problematic for that reason. Justice Con, that panel was quite neat actually. They revealed quite a bit and they're going to reveal even more at the DC fan dome in August. So near the end of August, we'll get a lot more information about the new justice league Snyder cut, which I'm really excited for. I really hope that we get it easily in Canada and we don't have to fight to get
00:42:30
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the movie that would be very annoying because again we don't have HBO max in Canada whereas that's very popular in the United States so hopefully we have a way to watch it on crave or some other way but yeah those are fighting words in some capacity he was talking throughout that whole interview about how the color palette is terrible he saw the poster and he was so disappointed Warner Brothers in this case they fought to get it to be a funnier movie
00:42:54
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to make it more comical and more like honestly Marvel. That was what their goal was I think in hiring Joss Whedon because he'd just come off really Age of Ultron and the original Avengers movie and he was obviously proven to work with these big time actors to create an ensemble cast that or not create one but use an ensemble cast to create a really great story.
00:43:16
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But that's not the movie or the universe that Joss Whedon had previously... Sorry, Joss... Zack Snyder. Zack Snyder had previously made it all. So it doesn't make any sense. You have Dawn of Justice, Batman v. Superman, Dawn of Justice, which was critically panned. Although an amazing movie. We don't understand. I get it, but I don't understand it. Like my theory about it is that all of these superhero movies came out. They're all following the same formula of the Marvel
00:43:41
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Cinematic universe formula over and over again and people are used to that. They want the funny movie They want this the certain beats that Marvel lands which aren't bad and I we like Marvel movies as well, of course Yeah, I love that on previous podcasts. We don't have anything wrong There's nothing wrong with that But this is a different style and the way Zack Snyder films Batman for Superman or Man of Steel I actually very much appreciate just as much as I appreciate a Captain America Winter Soldier Yeah, it's very comic bookie
00:44:08
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He does very interesting shots throughout where he shows almost like they're almost panels in a comic book in the way that he does a lot of what he does, just like he does 300 in a way. He uses a lot of slow mo. He's known for that, too. Yeah, which isn't necessarily always good. But I think the Batman for Superman is fantastic. And it's one of the better superhero movies, even though it's 28 percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Nobody believes this ridiculous. And I really do ridiculous.
00:44:33
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that the reason for this is because people are used to that style, that format. Iron Man, Doctor Strange, we talked about this earlier, Black Panther. They're honestly very similar movies. They follow the same beat. They fight themselves. They initially get knocked down. They come back in a big way throughout the movie. Again, fight themselves, meaning they're fighting a very similar concept of who they were. The origin story just keeps following that same idea. Winter Soldier breaks the pattern, Thor Ragnarok breaks the pattern. Even Spider-Man Homecoming.
00:45:04
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It does break the pattern. That's why those are the best movies in the MCU, though. Iron Man one was very good because it started that concept, but then creating it over and over again where it does the same thing is silly. In my mind, I think that you can do something more unique afterwards. Like Black Widow is going to be not an origin story, actually. So that will be one that also probably breaks the pattern. Yeah, we have a taskmaster as the villain, which is kind of a cool idea because it's not I mean, technically, she'll be facing someone that does the same things that she does. But
00:45:31
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They'll also be doing everything that Captain America does and, and, and Iron Man, anyone he studied, he studied. Yeah. Depending on how they actually handle the character, but yeah, I imagine it's going to be good. Oh, I think that the MCU, like Kevin Feige has such a great track record and I imagine that it's going to be good. Another thing they mentioned and they actually show a clip and you might've seen this online, Adrian audience members of Superman landing and going to talk to Alfred. I'm sure you saw that. Yeah. The black suit Superman.
00:45:58
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Yeah. So that wasn't a black suit that Henry Cavill was wearing and they shot two different shots. They actually did a color edit on that in post. The reason they were able to do that, Zack Snyder actually approached Warner Brothers initially, or Warner Brothers approached him when he tried to get the black suit Superman off the ground. And they initially said, we don't want black suits. Superman is too dark. I don't understand why this would, this is silly. Oh.
00:46:24
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But again, they wanted it to be funny. So they wanted to be funnier. And I think they were trying to go the way of the success of MCU. And so they told him that he couldn't do this. So he created a Superman suit, the same color blue and red, but it had a caveat where they actually built it with an easier way to
00:46:41
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not green screen, but, you know, if they wanted to recolorate it in post, they could do so on a later date. So if he was going to create his own cut later on, he could do that and then change the color of the suit. So they recreated the suit just as a, you know, just in case I can get my way later on.
00:46:57
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What a smart man. Worked out I guess. Good for him. It looks pretty good. I can't even notice. When you see that clip of Superman landing and he going to talk to Alfred. That wasn't in the movie if I recall. There was no moment where he doesn't. No. Even in the red suit though. Alfred and Superman I've never met.
00:47:13
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They never met, but there was an illusion that he had met. There was a moment where you think that it happened. It was almost like it was in the trailer. Was it in the trailer? It was in the trailer because there's a scene where Alfred looks to the side and you hear like, it was the trailer. I remember that a hundred percent. And then we never saw that scene of Alfred kind of looking over. And it's like, what happened there? Yeah. Also, that was starting at the time where Rogue One and all of these other movies were coming out with scenes that just weren't in the movie. Yeah.
00:47:41
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uh affinity war did this famously was showing the hulk running uh in the battlefield in wakanda yeah he was just not in the incredible hulk is just not in the battlefield in wakanda at all he he's just that's not something that happens so yeah it's very interesting to see what happens with this he was very passionately talking about the situation zach snyder wasn't i'm saying with justice league and his cut so i'm very curious to see what they
00:48:08
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what it ends up being. We're going to find out, I guess, but I'm very excited for this. And he's saying that it's also going to be about at least, I think he said it's at least three and a half hours at the minimum. Wonderful. But there's also a question of whether it's also going to be, or instead going to be a mini series.
00:48:26
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We talked about this last week. That was not revealed at JusticeCon though. That's going to be revealed at DC Fandom. So that is going to happen at DC Fandom. And they're going to release a teaser at DC Fandom as well with more footage. And I'm assuming it's just a teaser trailer to build up pipe.
00:48:43
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When he mentions or when this is mentioned that this is not canon, does that mean they're going to restart this somehow get Ben Affleck back, get Henry Cavill and go from there? That's my question as well. Will this lift off again with the actors that we previously had in the roles? Because again, Henry Cavill, he's not doing Superman according to his contract. Well, yeah, they couldn't even get him for, they couldn't even get him for Shazam. Right. Yeah.
00:49:10
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So what are they going to do? Are they going to go back and try and do this again? That's my question for you and for the audience. Will they go back and will they decide to do this if this movie is as successful as it's been hyped? Zack Snyder said also on that JusticeCon panel, he mentioned that apparently release the Snyder cut is a Twitter hashtag that actually has garnered more views and more hype than any movie released or unreleased over at Warner Brothers specifically.
00:49:37
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Which was an issue for Warner Brothers, obviously. And that's why this is being made in the first place, because they realize there's so much hype behind this. So many people want this that there's really no reason not to do it from a money perspective. So that's kind of the idea. So if this is that popular from people actually watching it, that's the question. If it gets a lot of viewership on HBO Max, I'm hoping that they restart this series and get it going. That's what I'm hoping.
00:50:03
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Yeah, I would absolutely love that. However, I don't think they will. I don't know. I think anything can happen now because we're in a different kind of spot. I never thought the Snyder Cut would happen. And they're doing it in a very official way. It's not like they're just saying here's Justice League with also with both versions. No, they're saying this is the Snyder Cut and we're letting Zack Snyder put black suits, nooper man, even though we said as executives, we don't want this.
00:50:30
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allowing this now. And so these types of things, I wonder if that means that if this gets again enough viewership, maybe this relaunches the series into something that's fantastic. I know that Batman, the Batman is being made with Matt Reeves, that would just be separate. And I think they could do different timeline things with this and not have to worry about that because they've already ruined it. They've got, they're not very cohesive. They've got a DC universe on TV and they got a DC universe on
00:50:55
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movies and they have two DC universes on TV because the Teen Titans DC universe is not connected to the Arrowverse. Exactly. And again, the Joker movie is not connected to the Matt Reeves movie, nor is it connected to the DC EU. So I'd be okay with it. I would love that. I would genuinely love that. If we got like a continuation of this DC EU.
00:51:17
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And I would still want to see the Matt Reeves Batman movies. It'd be really cool if, again, if they worked Flashpoint into it somehow. And I don't know, maybe we have two Bruce Wayans all of a sudden in the DCEU and, you know, Bruce Wayne, Ben Affleck, but Bruce Wayne is like the Nick Fury type. I think we've talked about this prior as well, that there was rumors that they were looking to get Ben Affleck as a, yeah, literally like a Nick Fury type. So he's not really Batman, but he's still in all these movies. That was for Michael Keaton.
00:51:45
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Oh, Jesus Christ. See how confusing this is? I don't even do many Batman. There's four Batman. Yeah, I was the not that Batman Batman, not that Batman. It was Michael Keaton's Batman was going to act as a sort of Nick Fury type character and then he brings the world together. The world is together because multiple universes, I guess. So there's a lot of hype for it. I'm excited to see what's launched on the DC Fandome at the near the end of August.
00:52:12
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That will be very exciting. I'm looking forward to that for sure. The footage, but also to know if it's going to be a mini series. TV series are just coming out of everywhere and they're so high quality. So again, we're going to talk about that as we go further into the news, even so far as in the news on number two.
Entertainment Industry Updates
00:52:27
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As publication The Hollywood Reporter accounts, Netflix has ordered a six-episode prequel series for TV series The Witcher called Blood Origin. The Witcher is based upon a book series by Polish author Andrzej Sapkowski that follows the story of the stoic monster hunter known as Geralt of Rivia.
00:52:44
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Geralt is a magically mutated human known as a Witcher, whose sole purpose is to rid the world of dangerous magical creatures. Much like HBO's Game of Thrones, Netflix's The Witcher has taken a more mature approach to high fantasy by attempting to ground it in reality and often using profanity, nudity, and violence as tools to further the narrative. Oh yeah.
00:53:04
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Blood Origin is set to investigate the beginnings of the very first Witcher and will take place 1200 years prior to the events of Netflix's first season of the Henry Cavill-led The Witcher. Writer Declan Dabara has been tapped as showrunner with The Witcher showrunner Lauren Schmidt Hissrich as executive producer and author Andrzej Zabkowski serving as a creative consultant.
00:53:27
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Oh my gosh, 1200 years prior. Yeah. It's a long time. That's before I was even born. I think it all takes place before you were born and potentially in a galaxy far, far away. I'm not sure this is necessarily the takeaway that I took away from this, but
00:53:43
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Yeah. Anyways, I hate to correct you, but it's actually sub cough ski. They don't pronounce W's in like Slavic countries. You should know this considering your Croatian partially that all W's are V's. Fair enough. So I think you should edit, edit every W you should just edit a V into every time you say sub cough ski, sub cough ski. I'm not doing that. But what did you think about this news?
00:54:09
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That's kind of cool, man. I don't know. I have yet to watch the Witcher series, nor have I played the Witcher games, although I know the series is more so based on the books as opposed to the games. I don't know, it's cool. It's always nice to world-build like this. I'm never against it. Another show that kind of reminds me, or another show that did this in a way, is the Spartacus TV show that aired on Starz. Their second season was a prequel.
00:54:33
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not 1200 years prior but it was prior to Spartacus coming into the arena now unfortunately it was because the actor that was playing Spartacus was diagnosed with cancer at the time so they did that to kind of bridge the gap and hope that he recovered unfortunately he passed away it was Andy Whitfield I believe it was unfortunately yeah he did pass away from cancer and they continued to show with without him replaced them but
00:54:58
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I don't know, it kind of reminds me of that to a certain extent. I really like world building. I'm a big fan of anything that really expands on like cool ideas and knowing that this is going to be just a six episode miniseries. I, at least that's how they're marketing it as. Yeah. And I know it's going to be short, like it's going to be short and sweet. Let's show you the origins of the Witcher kind of race. I guess they're really humans, but mutated.
00:55:22
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Yeah, it's kind of a neat idea. My love of this series is more so because of the video game. I really think the Witcher 3 Wild Hunt is fantastic. And the game sales and the number of people playing the game rocketed after the first season.
00:55:38
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I'm, I still really want to watch the show, although it's not really critically a great show. Like, I think it's like in its fifties or sixties on Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah. It's around 60 something. The audience score is really high on it. Yeah. It's very, it generated a lot of memes once it launched, if you recall. Yeah. All the fuck memes, like where it's just Geralt just saying fuck. Right. Yeah. Uh, that's, that's the extent of what I know of it. A really good job in the series. I think these are definitely the highlight. I mean, he's playing the main character, but.
00:56:06
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It's there's something to be desired about the I feel like the plot was kind of disjointed in a way. That was my biggest criticism of it. I hope they just double down and go for something as quality as Game of Thrones. I think there's a multiple timelines in the time lines. You would have read that. And that's kind of what their main criticism was, is the timelines didn't really work that well.
00:56:26
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It didn't make sense as much. I found that overall, I don't know what there's something about the production value that it was good, but there was something missing compared to what Game of Thrones has set the bar at. So I think that that was my biggest criticism of it. So I'm hoping that they can really pull out all the stops with season two and with this prequel series, considering Netflix has now seen how popular season one is.
00:56:49
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Yeah. Like, is it the most popular show on Netflix that they've ever released? I don't believe so. No. I'd have to check that statistic, but I don't think it's the most popular. Like Stranger Things is a juggernaut, right? Yeah, that's true. I don't know. I honestly, like if, if I had to bet, I would almost say The Witcher, just because like both you and I paid a lot of attention to the video game world. And when this show came out, the, the amount of players playing The Witcher 3 concurrently beat when it initially launched on like PC as an example.
00:57:18
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Which was crazy because it was like three, four years after the video game. That's one of the best games, maybe of all time in terms of like some believe it's the best RPG like role-playing game ever. Yeah. It depends on the Western maybe. Yeah. It's just in general, like people's thoughts better than persona five. Are you kidding me? I'm just kidding. It's not my idea. It's the no, no, no, no. People in the world, they believe this is the case.
00:57:42
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Yeah, I don't know, man. I really want to play it. And I think I will like play the game. Sorry. Watch the show. And then as a result, I think I'm going to play the game, but I'm going to wait when I have some time to actually play other games. And I've been pretty just like playing the next game after the next game, after the next game recently. I think once I get through ghost of Tsushima, I know this is not a gaming podcast, but once I get through ghost Tsushima and I have some like dead air between honestly, until the PS five comes out, I'll have a lot of free time. So maybe I'll watch that start the game and get back to you.
00:58:11
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It's worth watching. Like I don't think it's no guns akimbo. I think it's worth the watch. It's only eight episodes, right? So it's not very long. So I think if you don't like it after the first actually, the first episode has an extremely well choreographed fight sequence. And that's actually the way you know that if you want to watch the show going forward.
00:58:27
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Yeah, that's one thing I heard from a lot of people is that that first episode has like one of the greatest like fight scenes in recent memory. Yeah, for swords anyway. Yeah, sword fights, sword fight scenes. Obviously. Yeah, nevermind. Cool. Number three, as reported by website Variety, director Christopher Nolan's new movie Tenet will be launching internationally. Sorry, is it Tenet or is it Tenet? Tenet.
00:58:49
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We'll be launching internationally first, prior to release in the United States. Tenet's new international release date is set for August 26th, whereas the domestic U.S. release is tentatively set for Labor Day weekend on September 3rd. Australia, France, Japan, Italy, and our home country of Canada are some of the over 70 countries where Tenet is set to release on August 26th, and yes, it is Tenet. Most recently, China approved Tenet for release on the 26th as well.
00:59:17
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As we've discussed previously on our show, the hype behind Tenet has been thought by many industry analysts to be a powerful catalyst of sorts that might be capable of reviving a very COVID-19 dormant theater industry in the United States and potentially elsewhere. Adrian, what do you think of this? We've been talking about Tenet every week. It's almost like a, I don't know. This is the Tenet and DCEU podcast where every week we talk about something related to those two topics.
00:59:46
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I don't think we talked about the DCU last week. Did we not? I don't believe so. Did we not talk about the Ray Fisher thing? Or was it the week prior? Oh, we briefly talked about that, but we talked about every topic. I mean, baby. Anyways, um, I'm very excited. I'm super happy. It, yeah, it feels like a roller coaster in terms of this whole, uh, tenet thing. You know, it, uh, one week we don't think it's coming out. One week we do think it's coming out. One week it gets pushed back.
01:00:11
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the next week, it's not coming out. And now we have a, what I believe is a set in stone release date. I don't think they're going to push it back anymore internationally at the very least. Set in stone. You believe it's set in stone. I think it's set in stone for international releases. You have no idea what COVID will do in a month. It's changed so much. It's a completely evolving situation. That's an interesting take.
01:00:31
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You know what? I'm being optimistic, my friend. I really want this to come out. I really want this to revitalize the movie theater going experience. I know we've talked about how movie theaters in Ontario, Cineplex and Landmark, as an example, weren't really willing to reopen because of the 50 person cap. However, they are working with like the government to. I just received the Cineplex email saying, come join us in our theaters that are opening nearby. So I think they're working it out for sure.
01:01:00
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Didn't you get one of those? Like is the scene like a scene points type email where they I don't know maybe I probably wrote me in when I checked it though The theaters near Austin Guelph, Ontario are not open. So I'm not sure I'm doing a drive I would drive with you not speak a single word in the vehicle nor when we get there nor on the drive back But I will go with you to a theater
01:01:21
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Right, because we don't talk, of course, outside of this podcast. But yeah, it would be exciting to be able to see this. I'm really excited to see this. Even if they launched, and I'm not going to do this, but if they launched on video on demand, I would have, again, picked it up for $25 for sure. Holy fuck, man. Most excited for Tenet over any movie coming out in the near future anyway. Yeah, me too. I agree.
01:01:42
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I think what has to happen for Cineplex to open properly, or landmark, is the masks thing. I just think you need to wear it the whole time. It's such a closed environment in movie theater that I think that it's a necessary step. I know it's annoying, and there's a UK theater chain, I think it's called View, that specifically they require you to wear a mask if you're gonna sit in one of their theaters. I think this is important. I honestly believe that this is a necessary thing, again, as much as it's annoying.
01:02:10
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I would be OK with that. I think that would open up theaters more quickly if they could do that. I think that's not going to happen, though. The mask thing, I just think, is such an important piece of this solving the pandemic that I think that that's important. But again, I don't think it's going to happen. I just believe that I'm optimistic that that would happen, that the government would just mandate masks and that would solve this whole issue. But we'll see.
01:02:33
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No, I agree with you. My only issue is that as far as I'm aware, movie theaters make the majority of their money on concession items. Yeah. So how do you eat popcorn through your mask? For sure. You see that random. It's I saw meme on Instagram. I must have sent it to you. I didn't see it. The person cuts the jug.
01:02:49
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Yeah, and their nose fits in within the handle spot and then they start drinking through a straw through the opening cap of the cut in half jug. Exactly. It's ridiculous, but it was really well cut, like really well fit to their face. It was perfect. And they undid the lid whenever they needed to take a sip. That's the solution. I think they got to start selling those at the concessions, Cineplex and Landmark Cinemas, NAMC or wherever else. Yeah, that's the solution here. Yeah, man. I agree. I think you should market this to
01:03:16
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The Shark Tank and Dragon's Den. Oh my gosh. Yes. We make the big bucks, man. Yes. Remember when the, what's that guy's
Emmy Awards Discussion
01:03:24
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name from the Shark Tank that, uh, Kevin O'Leary? Yeah. Kevin O'Leary when he was going to run for conservative party and then very quickly dropped out. Yeah. Dude, all you are is rich. How do you expect to run a country?
01:03:36
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Well, he believes he's economically sound like he knows the economics. I mean, look at the United States. That was, that was me doing a slight jab at the United States. How are you going to run a country if you only, only really run a reality TV show? Yeah. Or at least host it. I bet he doesn't really, he didn't really run it at the time either for The Apprentice.
01:03:53
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I don't know, I don't want to demonize anyone. Like, if you are an American listener and you are a Trump supporter, I do not agree with you in any single way. However... Any single way, politically. We may believe the same thing about movies. What if they like Batman v Superman? Then I'm okay with you. I'm okay with you. I'm okay with you.
01:04:09
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My big thing is, I don't know, not to get into politics. I don't want to go deep-dye. I'm okay if you're a Republican. I'm not okay if you believe Trump's a good person. And we just went to political number four. The 72nd annual Emmy Award nominations have been officially announced. As reported by Variety, Netflix has notably received the most nominations with 160 total nods. Amazon TV series, The Marvelous Miss Maisel received the most nominations in the comedy categories.
01:04:35
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with a total of 20, while HBO's Succession was tied with Netflix's Ozark for 18 nominations apiece in the drama categories. What?! Interestingly, Quibi received 10 Emmy nominations for their original series. Unlike in previous years, the Emmy Awards will not be broadcast from the Microsoft Theatre in Los Angeles, California, but will instead be an Emmy's from home type of event. Jimmy Kimmel is set to host the award show,
01:05:03
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as it airs from the nominees and presenters homes from around the world. Adrian, what do you make of these nominations? I don't know if you had a chance to take a look at some of the shows and TV movies and limited series being nominated, but it's an interesting list for sure. And we're definitely going to make some predictions.
01:05:22
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I should say. Yeah, let's do the week before. Yeah, the week before the Emmys, we'll do some predictions live on our show because we do everything live, of course. We won't do all the Emmy nominations because there's so many of them. Also, yeah, I don't care of all of them. It's a massive, it's always like this, but there's a massive list every day. How many lists? Oh, it's crazy. Seven? There's a lot.
01:05:46
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15 I'm not gonna say a number I did 492 cinematography there's sound editing there's hair styling there's makeup There's every pretty much category you can think of for what you would build the TV show with directing of course But directing based on episodes That's just the way that enemies are is that there's a million different options in different categories because there's comedies dramas limited series And so we're not definitely doing them all but we'll do the main ones so best limited series
01:06:13
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best drama, best comedy and some of the short form series. Yeah, exactly. We can talk about Quibi some more. Yeah, for sure. Why not, baby? Yeah, exactly. Um, yeah, I don't know, man. It's cool. It's cool. It's exciting. I like these award shows. It's cool that Jimmy Kimmel is back to host the Emmys. I don't know if he's ever hosted it before, but I really, I really enjoyed him during the Oscars. And I think a big miss on the Oscars for the past few years is that they never had a host. I don't get this. It's stupid.
01:06:41
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Even the Emmys is doing it and like they're not doing it out of the theater Yeah, I just feel like a host really streamlines things and makes it seem cohesive Yeah, it's the glue that holds it all together I think it's really silly and the fact that they did it now for two years in a row They believe it's okay, but I'm not sure why I wonder if the ratings are just not hit by it It's just it seems obtuse. It's just an odd choice and I I don't agree with it
01:07:03
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It is. I mean, like at the beginning of, I know this is like kind of backtracking, but at the beginning of the last Oscars where Chris Rock and Steve Martin, you know, like kind of started off the show and really like set the tone, I think that would have been awesome to have both of them hosts throughout it. Yeah, just do the whole thing. What's the point? I don't know. You keep on changing a bunch of people throughout it and a lot of it's cringy and not funny.
01:07:24
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Well, they always change it anyway. Yeah, I don't know. It's an odd one. Like there's always the presenters are always different every time for every reward anyway. Yeah. It just seems like there's no glue that's holding it together. It doesn't seem like anyone's, I know it's almost, it feels more stressful for me. I don't know why.
01:07:39
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I just just bring somebody on who's going to be consistent and charismatic. Yeah, it's not like they really shortened it by much either. They were still long. I don't know really what's the point. I don't know the point. I don't agree. But again, this Hemis from home is kind of a neat idea. They're doing this and they sent all of the nominees like a package saying, hey, this is going to be different this year. We're going to send you some equipment so you can film this. We're going to do this with high end
01:08:04
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technical effects to make sure that it really works. Wear some attire that's not your everyday clothes, not necessarily depending on where your location is. If it's 3am in the UK as an example, feel free to be in your bed while we film you. We don't care necessarily, we'll just use that concept and we'll
01:08:20
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We'll make sure that we know where your location is and what you're going to be wearing to use that as part of the show. So it's kind of a neat idea. So they're going to do something different with this than some of the, I guess, the low quality kind of productions of people on Zoom on just their PC or Mac.
01:08:35
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Just any celebrity on like a comic-con at home panel type of deal. So it should be interesting I took a particular notice to the Emmy nominations I went through them all pretty much I was curious most of all and this is an odd one over the last few years Better Call Saul hasn't been nominated for cinematography I went off last week about how great the cinematography was Better Call Saul no nominations whatsoever and it hasn't happened to nominated one time. I
01:08:58
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Actually for cinematography. No, exactly. Okay, which is so strange. No, but I also was nominated for best show this year Yeah, yeah, I was gonna I was gonna say so it's very strange to me and I think Marshall Adams Especially with season 5 did a fantastic job as we talked last week about I use the director of photography How great could that possibly be? I don't understand what other show is doing a better job Ozark was nominated for seven cinematography for multiple episodes. Yeah
01:09:22
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And I don't agree that that's a better show in the way that it's shot. It's a great show. There's a couple of scenes, though, that like I immediately think of for Ozark. Again, like I haven't watched season five. But it's not bad. It's bad. Yeah, there's a few scenes. Most notably, I think it's the second last episode of the show and that in the taxi cab with the one character where the camera just kind of sits on him. And it's really fantastic. Again, I don't want to spoil anything.
01:09:46
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And I don't know, it's really nice to see that. It's great, but my point is Better Call Soul was nominated one time, so not even once. Ever, not in the five years that it aired. Michael Slovis, who did most of Breaking Bad for cinematography, who was the director of photography for Breaking Bad, was nominated almost every year.
01:10:04
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And I don't think it changed much. So this is the perception that we had. We talked about this last week about how we think that Better Call Saul is maybe better show than Breaking Bad. I guess this is not perceived that way in other parts of the industry because they're not obviously giving them awards for many things. Interestingly, I just found that weird. Even El Camino.
01:10:23
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which is also photographed by Marshall Adams, is not nominated for cinematography in the made for TV movie category or whatever it is. It's a little different now because everything's kind of made for TV. You've got like the old garden extraction, making millions of dollars just sitting on Netflix or making millions of views sitting on Netflix. And those are those are movies that could have arguably been in theaters, not that they're better than El Camino, in my opinion. But El Camino was, by the way, nominated for
01:10:54
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Best movie alongside bad education as an example on HBO with Hugh Jackman. I'll never watch bad education. I was thinking of sex education. Sorry. Sex education is a TV show. Yeah. Netflix. Yeah. Talking about the movie category. Yeah, I know. I just immediately thought of the sex education.
01:11:10
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I was being a fool. I'm so sorry. I hope you forgive me. Watchmen was also nominated 26 times and it's the most nominated show in the 72nd Emmy Awards. Well deserved. Damon Lindelof getting the freaking recognition he deserved when he got zero Emmy nominations for the left over season three as an example.
01:11:29
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Yeah, it's strange. Well, The Lost got nominated quite a bit. Yeah, but he didn't get anything for leftovers for season three in particular. The leftovers is just completely flew through the radar completely. It just didn't get anything. I don't understand. It makes no sense. It is one of the best shows of all time. Ever. It is very well done. The writing is pristine. I can't recommend that show enough.
01:11:51
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Please watch the leftovers. But it's just again, it was completely ignored. These award shows aren't always perfect. There's funny things that happen. There's politics. Certainly. I would argue for sure. Westworld season three actually, notably was absent from best show, whereas it was nominated in the past. Did you watch the full thing of Westworld season three? I know we talked about that. No, I only watched the first episode. Oh, you didn't actually go through the whole thing.
01:12:14
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No, I like I just haven't found the time again. I like I've been in a very big like video game sort of mode recently Just playing a bunch of video games has been a bunch of new releases and whenever I eat I don't want to watch an hour-long episode So I watched avatar the last airbender, you know for like the 22 minute chunk
01:12:31
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So I still really want to go back to Westworld and I plan to finish it. Succession is another example where I watched the entirety of the first season and then I started season two, watched the first episode and then again, just didn't get back to it. Succession is so good. I know. I know. I love season one. I thought it was fantastic. I thought it was amazing. Yeah. Season two is unreal. I just, it's so good.
01:12:54
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Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna start season. I mean, I think I only watched the first episode, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna watch it all. For sure. I would watch the, maybe watch the first episode again. I just find that that season is very, it just runs so well together. As a whole. When you watch the first episode to the last in like maybe a span of a few weeks, it really does play very well, I find. It's like a Subway sandwich. Yeah. That's a good example. Yeah. Sure. You want to eat the entire thing at once.
01:13:20
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Not all at once, but just keep it concise. No, you want to eat it all up. If I recall when you watched the first episode, it was a while ago. Dude, it was forever ago. More than six months. It was prior to COVID. It was pre-COVID. Yeah. Which is quite literally some lifetimes ago. Yeah, I think it was kind of ignored a little bit with Silicon Valley.
01:13:37
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Which is odd. It was the last season of Silicon Valley and it didn't really get much of it. Did you find that the last season of Silicon Valley wasn't as good as the previous HBO Silicon Valley season? I would make the argument that the last season improved quite a bit. I think Silicon Valley, it has some really great seasons and it has some good seasons. And I think the last season is really great. And I think Silicon Valley kind of fell into the trap by like season. What was the last season, season six, season seven? Do you recall? Six seasons.
01:14:02
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Yeah, I would make the argument that like season six of Silicon Valley was a, an improvement. I almost found that season four and especially season five was every episode was like, Oh, here's a crazy problem. Let's fix it. Then they fix it by the end of the episode. And then there's a new problem that they're going to have to deal with the next episode. I would make the argument that season six was better than the majority of the seasons of Silicon Valley. So that's kind of shocking.
01:14:25
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Yeah, it didn't get much. There was a couple of things in there, but it really was kind of ignored. Marvelous Miss Maisel got multiple nominations. What am I missing? Am I missing something big? Have you watched Marvelous Miss Maisel? No, no. I haven't watched it. That's what I'm asking. It's an Amazon Prime show and every year it seems to get nominated fairly well. This award show was obviously the notable absence, especially in the drama categories, Game of Thrones. And last year, Fleabag won for season two.
01:14:51
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Fleabag is an interesting show because it doesn't launch every year. In fact, there's like a huge gap between. Yeah, I think the first season was like 2016 and then season two was 2019. So it received a nomination and one for Best Fleabag's like phenomenal. It's yeah, it's one of the funniest shows. And yeah, anyways, I don't want to go too deep in it.
01:15:11
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So this year of course Fleabag is absent and that it kind of ate up a lot of the awards. Barry's absence as well. Barry was a big contender last year as well. There's no Barry season three as of yet. I don't know what the plan is for Barry season three. Barry being a show by Bill Hader with Bill Hader starring in it about a man who's
01:15:31
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trying to become an actor but his previous profession and still is his profession is being a hitman so that's a fascinating concept definitely worth the watch 30 minute episodes about i think it's 10 episodes per season if i'm not mistaken yeah i believe so that show is fantastic that was chewing up a lot of the nominations last year for sure so those are the notable abs and t's and then miss mazel could just
01:15:56
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win everything, I guess, because they've got so many nominations in there. So it would be interesting for sure. I'm curious to see Ozark got a ton of nominations in the drama category as well. Which is awesome. It's a so well deserved show for sure. I cannot wait for the fourth and final season of Ozark. I think that, I think we talked about it on the first episode of this podcast.
01:16:13
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It's almost disappointing that there's four seasons from Ozark. Yeah, definitely. But I mean, if they're finished the story they're telling, I feel like they could have kept it going. But again, I don't know how season four is going to end. And it's an extended season as well, which is at least nice. Considering where they left off at the end of season three and the way that they've left it, I feel like there's way more room
01:16:36
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Yeah, there's a lot of rope. I think you could do a ton of things. But so they must have maybe they had a I don't know if you read this, but maybe a concrete plan going into it knowing what the ending would look like. And so this is maybe nearing the end in their eyes. Maybe. I don't know. Again, this is also referring to the fact that Netflix rarely lets shows go longer than four seasons. Most of their TV shows end at season three, the majority of them. So I'm really glad that, you know, Ozark is even getting a fourth season.
01:17:03
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We talked about this last week with the Dragon Prince and how it's incredibly odd that the Dragon Prince was renewed for four more seasons until season seven. I just wonder if it's viewership drop off, right? We don't necessarily see what Netflix numbers are. So that's I think why that happens. I don't think it's viewership drop off. I think it's the fact that it's not bringing in any more people.
01:17:23
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Not that it's not keeping the people that are watching it. It's just not bringing in a new character. Sorry, new characters, new viewers. I don't know. Maybe like no one's going to subscribe to Netflix for season four of Ozark. I think when they view them, when they see like, if like, for instance, this is a good example, Breaking Bad, Breaking Bad pulled in more and more viewers every season to the next crazy extent. I just don't think that would happen with a show like Breaking Bad. Like for instance, Breaking Bad got five seasons.
01:17:47
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Those are new viewers. But I think that's different because that was network TV. That was that was AMC. That's not Netflix. Right. That is Netflix. Sorry. That is AMC and AMC is about that as well. That's what they're about. Their business model is if we can pull in more viewers, then we're going to continue the show. I'm sure AMC was talking to Vin Skelligan and Vince Gilligan's like, I'm ending it. This is exactly where I wanted to end. And they're like, are you sure? Because we're in like the 12 million viewers now. And I really wish you were not going to end this because we can keep pulling in more people.
01:18:16
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Yeah, I just don't think that's the case. I think there's a reason for this. And I think it has to do with the fact that like stranger things, for example, is going to four, it could go to five in theory. The only reason I think they would stop that show is because those kids are growing up. And so there's a problem with that. And now they can't even film because of COVID. So there's going to be issues with stranger things in that capacity, because again, it's a cast of children. But
01:18:40
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I don't know. I don't think that's why. If I were to predict, I don't know if you have any hard data on that specifically that you've seen, but no, I don't know. I predict no. I think that the as a business model, if you were pulling in viewers like you were like AMC was to Breaking Bad.
01:18:55
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then I think that you would just continue the shows if they were successful. And if the creators wanted to keep making them. Ozark is gonna pull in more viewers. That's just like, I feel like a fact just because they've continued to thrive. I don't know, I just keep hearing more and more people who are picking up Ozark. In fact, I think you were mentioning- Yeah, my friend Peter. Yeah, you're right. We haven't seen that many shows go past season four. It's just not very- I can think of two off the top of my head and it's BoJack Horseman and Dragon Prince, even though that hasn't aired yet. Can't think of anything else. Can you?
01:19:24
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Not after I'm ahead, no. It is strange, I agree with you, but I just, I believe that it's because of a drop off due to quality potentially and the nature of the hype train behind it. So I'm not, I'm not certain why that would be. But number five, as website deadline reports, AMC, the largest cinema chain in the United States and film distributor, Universal Studios.
01:19:43
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have made an historic deal that would allow Universal to place movies on video-on-demand services only 17 days after the initial theatrical release. This is in sharp contrast to the 2-3 month theatrical window
Video-On-Demand and Movie Theater Future
01:19:55
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that existed before and is currently still present at other movie theatre chains. Deadline mentions that AMC will see percentages of the profits for the early digital rental releases, but the exact percentages are unknown to the public at this time.
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Other movie distributors are also reportedly looking to broker similar deals with AMC Theatres. In contrast, Cineworld, the second largest theatre chain worldwide, has described the deal to be lacking business sense, CEO of Cineworld Mookie Gridinger.
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said, quote, people need to be aware that the first big movie from Universal is coming only in six months. So there is no pressure here. But we clearly see this as a wrong move at the wrong time. Clearly, we are not changing our policy with regards to showing only movies that are respecting the theatrical window. Unquote, why 17 days? Is that like, that's the first thing that popped out to me because they lowered it from like the three month time 17 days. What a random two to three months.
01:20:52
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Just make it 14 or 21. It's like they brought it down to, you know, three weeks and then, and they're like, you know, just make it two. And then they kept on going back and forth and like, you know what? We'll make it, we'll make it two and a half, 17 days final offer. And they took it. That's what I feel like happened in that boardroom meeting. Yeah. There was a negotiation. This is back and forth, a ridiculous back and forth.
01:21:16
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I don't know, man, I'm obviously all for it. I think this is a pro consumer move. And I think it will, you know, allow access to these movies or give people the chance to watch these movies that you know, maybe live in countries that don't have movie theaters or live in a place that don't have movie theaters nearby.
01:21:33
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And on top of that, obviously some places like the US aren't handling COVID as well. And I'm sure there are people that are scared that don't want to go to these movies theaters. So instead of being left out and not being able to watch these movies that are coming out, they can, you know, wait the two and a half weeks and hopefully will pay to watch it at home. Now, again, pirating is not a good thing and I'm sure people will do it, but I don't know.
01:21:56
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I think it's a good move. I'm happy for that. I would mention like, but clearly we see this as a wrong move at a wrong time from the central world CEO. I think that that's exactly the idea of the COVID thing is a short lived concept. We plan for a future of COVID forever. That's not really, I don't think why they made this deal.
01:22:15
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I think there was negotiations about this before COVID as well. But the idea is this is really short-sighted. Are we really looking at this like COVID-19 is going to last for the rest of our lives? Maybe. Hopefully not. That's not really the idea. It's pro-consumer maybe. I love going to the movie theaters.
01:22:30
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Me too. I'm still going to go. How many movie theaters might shut down because this plan exists? That's my concern with this kind of thing, right? So then how pro consumer is that? Because then I now have to just buy $25 movie tickets at home. That's not cheaper either. I can buy a concession and my ticket for less than that.
01:22:48
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So it's a little bit of an interesting idea. I don't know what's going to happen with this. It's not necessarily bad because there's also talk about leaving the movies in theaters when they're doing well. I don't think Universal has any intention of taking them out of the movie theater unless they're doing poorly and then they're going to make it a video on demand. But how much do they bend these rules and when do they find that people just buy them more at home and don't actually want to buy them?
01:23:15
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in theaters. And so I wonder about whether, again, this is going to keep the lights on in these theater businesses as my biggest concern. Yeah, actually, that's a good point that I didn't really consider. I agree with you. Honestly, I think you're right. That's definitely not something I was thinking about. I was thinking more pro consumer in the sense that, you know, maybe these people don't want to go to the theaters because of whatever. But yeah, like I didn't really think about it. Yeah, movie theaters would probably close down because of this. Now, I don't know. It depends. It depends on how lean it is. How long is covid run for?
01:23:44
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Well, that's the thing, man. Like I don't, I try to be optimistic about many things, but I don't think we're ever going to get back to that pre COVID normalcy, even with the vaccine. I think, I think masks are going to be a thing from here on out. Like I know if I ever get sick in five, 10 years down the line, I am going to put on a mask when I am sick and going about, and I will look at people.
01:24:06
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with a glaring eye if I ever see... If they're coughing and they don't have a mask on. Exactly. I think the world has changed.
COVID-19's Impact on Entertainment and Society
01:24:15
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Coronavirus is 9-11 times 100 in however many countries there are. 150 plus countries or whatever.
01:24:22
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It's a serious thing and we're never going to get back to that pre-COVID normalcy. So honestly, the whole aspect or the whole idea that, you know, like, are we expecting COVID to stay around? Probably not. I'm sure once we get a vaccine, things will start to go back to normal, but it's gonna stick. This is gonna be like a historical event that we will never forget.
01:24:44
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And you know, kids growing up these days will remember this. Like when I was a kid and 9 11 happened, I remember like, cause I used to fly home to, uh, to my grandparents in Serbia. And I remember the airport before 9 11. And then I distinctly remember the airport after 9 11, how much it changed the world. You know what I mean? And how it changed everything.
01:25:02
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Like I remember going across the border to the US when my dad was a truck driver and things like that and everything changed. And I think coronavirus has changed things so drastically that maybe it will, you know, maybe we do need this whole like 17 day after thing. Again, it will probably close down theaters if people, you know, take advantage of it.
01:25:23
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Yeah, that's the issue. But I know like me, us, like we, we went to the movie theaters prior to that and we're, we're irking to go back to the movie theaters. I think the people that went there consistently and loved going to the movies, I think people are ready to go back. I know it's just, is that enough? Like families, will families continue to go and stuff like that? I don't know. It's interesting. Like Universal is just one distributor. The Disney has come out and kind of hinted at the concept that they're, they're going to keep going with the two to three months because keeping it in theaters for family movies is a, is a good idea.
01:25:53
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So there's a benefit that they see from having movies in the theater, so I don't think they're even negotiating a deal. I mean, that could be different now. I don't know whether that's the case, but that's there's been talk about that concept that family movies really bring the family together to the movies all at once. Many tickets sold all at once for a movie like Soul Pixar's movie coming out in November, apparently.
01:26:13
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Or really, any of the movies, if we actually think about what Disney is actually launching in the near future, they've kind of kept all of their movies in theaters, except for Artemis Fowl, which I think they knew was a stinker. And I think that that's the reason they didn't.
01:26:28
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wait for that one to be launched in theaters because they realized it was so disappointing how badly reviewed it is. And I actually loved Artemis Fowl as a kid. So I'm very disappointed. Like the book series, it's based on a book about a boy genius. I assume it was about an owl. I'm not even joking. I genuinely thought it was that book series with owls. I don't know if you know what I'm talking about the owls. Maybe. I think that's what it's called. Yeah. I assumed it was about that. And I realized I was wrong.
01:26:55
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It's a neat series, like again, boy genius millionaire, he's got a lot of resources, he's kind of the villain, arguably. He's got a butler who's pretty badass, he's kind of a James Bond type kind of guy. It's just a, there's like a fairy, it's like the fairy world and the human world collide and he tries to, it's almost like a heist movie for the first, it's a heist book for the first book. So I was hoping that was gonna be great, I'm not gonna watch it, I'm just gonna be so disappointed.
01:27:22
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It seemed like all the right people were in place to make this movie great. Didn't work out. I think Disney saw the movie before and they're like, we can put that one just directly to streaming. We're good. As far as I'm aware with that movie is that they initially filmed it as, you know, the kid being a villain and then they didn't reshoot any of it. They just re-like dubbed the majority of the movie to make him a anti-hero as opposed to that. That's my understanding. Oh, I didn't hear that.
01:27:48
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He's not completely a villain, I guess. He is the main protagonist, but yeah, he's kind of, yeah, he's not the, he's not the best. So yeah, it's definitely something that's disappointing. I didn't hear that rumor that they redubbed it. Yeah. Like they just reshot, not necessarily reshot a bunch of the scenes, but like made scenes. What? Yeah. Like literally just redubbed it. And instead of showing people's mouths, like arrested development season five, that sounds pretty terrible.
01:28:12
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Yeah. That's, that's the one thing I heard. Sure. Yeah. I wonder what extent they did. And they re-edited a bunch of it to make it seem like the kid was always a good kid. Oh. Anti-hero type type thing. Yeah. That sounds awful. I know. I'm never going to watch that movie. I know watching that. Especially since I have no attachment to this owl movie as well.
01:28:29
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It's cool. Like they made it a complete language. Like the author, uh, I can't remember that's his first name. George railroad, uh, Martin. I should have looked that up beforehand, but regardless of whatever, whatever the pronunciation of his, of his name is, uh, on Jay sub cow ski, sub cough ski. Yeah. I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,
01:28:50
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Yes. Wow. That's so embarrassing. Anyways, Cole first book, he created his own language. He created his own fairy language based on symbols and he wrote them at the top of every page. You could actually translate it. If you have a, like a cipher, you could actually read another like subtext on the top of the top of every page. There's another story going on in the meantime.
01:29:10
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Let me guess, you were one of those nerds that did that. I did some of them. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I knew it. Yeah, I was a, I was a young teenager and I was very interested in this world. I thought he did a great job building the universe for Artemis Fowl and I was disappointed again that Artemis Fowl was a disaster for, for the movie.
01:29:28
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But my point was about this. Mulan and Black Widow did not go automatically to streaming. And you mentioned, I think, at one point you thought that Tenet would go automatically to streaming. And that's obviously not happened. It's not going to happen. Tenet is going to stay as a theatrical release and then go to streaming potentially after that or whatever it is. But it's going to be again, Christopher Nolan was, I'm sure, very stubborn on this. He definitely doesn't believe in the concept. I don't think he believes in streaming.
01:29:55
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other than on Fortnite. Exactly. The hit streaming service Fortnite. Regardless, he likes the idea of the theatrical experience and all that delivers. He films specifically in film. He sees the value. I'm surprised Mulan hasn't even gone to streaming. Are you saying that it hasn't moved on to streaming services? Yeah, Mulan hasn't moved on. It's a stretch of a joke here, bud.
01:30:20
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You know what and even Black Widow is another good example They've got streaming Marvel shows like Falcon and the Winter Soldier that aren't going to theaters It's interesting that they wouldn't just take the risk say this movie we can make this to make a streaming movie They see the value of the theatrical experience as well. Can I tell you a joke? What what's the joke? How long have you been thinking about this? There isn't one I'm just asking if I can tell you one
01:30:42
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Yeah. You can tell me a joke. Like I'm not going to tell you right now. I'm just, I'm just asking if I can tell you what in the future. Yeah, you can. Oh yeah. You just told the joke. That was terrible. Moo gone. Moo gone to theaters. What was that? Anyway, it doesn't matter. I was just wondering if I can tell you a joke in the future. Yeah, you can please make sure they're good, especially if, Oh my God. You know, humor is your amateur.
01:31:04
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Number 6. As Variety has reported, Pixar is developing a new animated film to be released in 2021 called Luca. Luca will take place in the Italian Riviera and is a coming-of-age story centered around a boy by the name of Luca forging a new friendship. Longtime Pixar creator Enrico Casarosa is directing the film based on deeply personal connections to his own life.
01:31:27
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Pixar's next film, Soul, is set to launch in theaters on November 20th, 2020. What do you make of this, sir? I have a friend that has a dog named Luca, so that's the first thing I thought of. And you thought instantly, this must be a movie about a dog. Yeah. A cartoon dog. About a husky. A husky. I don't know why I said it like that. A husky. So that's the first thing I thought of. It isn't. It's about a human boy. Where has it taken place? The Italian Riviera.
01:31:54
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I'm sorry. Is that the extent of your thoughts on this? I don't know, man. I'm interested, obviously. I really enjoy Pixar movies. I think Pixar has been knocking it out of the park as of late as they always do. The most recent ones being, was it Coco? That was the last Pixar movie released? Onward.
01:32:09
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Oh, Pixar, just my dad's a pair of pants. I forgot about that one. I didn't really love that movie. It wasn't bad, but I didn't love it. I did love Coco. Inside Out is one of my favorite movies, period. I don't think I've ever experienced so many emotions watching a movie, which is ironic because it is a movie about emotions. Yeah, I cried hard on that one. I broke down. That was a tough one. Dude, no, I'm not joking. I broke down. The imaginary elephant man.
01:32:38
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Dude, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I think, I think about watching Inside Out and just got, uh, anyways, fantastic movies. And again, I love Pixar. Obviously Toy Story four was after Coco. It was. Oh my gosh. You smart cookie. Look at you knowing timelines. I appreciate that.
01:33:00
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I really love, uh, I really love Toy Story 4, although it is my least favorite Toy Story, fun fact. Not to say that it's bad, it's just the least favorite out of a line of amazing movies. Right. Yeah, I don't know, man. I'm always down. I'm always gonna watch a Pixar movie, and I always want to watch it in theaters. I'm gonna watch it maybe not day one, but it's definitely always on my list. I'm not gonna not watch a Pixar movie. I don't even recall the last Pixar movie I missed watching.
01:33:24
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Even the good dinosaur, which wasn't like critically well received in comparison to all their other movies I still watched and I still enjoyed enough. So yeah, man, I'm always down. It's cool. The little poster they released looked really awesome. Just very stylized. And yeah, I'm always down. I'm always down to watch something new. Yeah.
01:33:42
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I'm excited for like the Jamie Foxx starring soul. I'm just curious to see what direction that goes. I'm kind of curious about that movie. Are they releasing more movies more often? It seems like there's, cause they were releasing one in 2020 and then they're releasing one in 2021. It seems like they're releasing every year. I don't know if that was the case before.
01:34:01
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I don't know, man. I actually don't know. That's true, actually, because Coco launched before Toy Story the year before. Maybe it's been... Wasn't it Incredibles 2, actually, now that I think about it? Oh, right. Incredibles 2 was after Coco. Yeah. Good call. Yeah, that's correct. So actually, yeah, man, it seems like there's a lot. And then before that was before Coco, I think it was before Coco was finding Dory. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, there's so many and they're all great.
01:34:26
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They're all great. Pixar has got the best track record and animation, maybe in movies ever. Yeah. I think it's, it rivals the MCU for sure. Both owned by Disney, I guess, in terms of Rotten Tomatoes, at least critic reviewed movies. They're just so well reviewed, accepted by the audience. Typically on both franchises. There's not a bad Pixar movie. No, there isn't. I mean, people may argue that cars too is not the best, but it's not, I forgot about cars too.
01:34:52
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It's not a bad one. It's not a bad movie, though. It's just not great. Yeah, it's average. Imagine if a surprise that they made that. Yeah. I saw Cars 1 trailer. I think it was still I was fairly young. I didn't I didn't have any interest in it. I just thought, what is this? I don't understand why I would want to do that. Why they're talking cars. That seems very I'm kind of over Thomas the train engine. I don't know. I like engine tank engine. My mistake.
01:35:18
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Man. Are you serious, man? Maiter is my favorite fictional character of all time. Says so. No. Oh my gosh. Who even likes Maiter? I didn't watch the movie. I didn't watch either of them.
01:35:31
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You haven't watched cars one or two or three. There's a cars three. There's a cars three. Oh no. That was actually critically well received. So cars two is the only one that's not great. Oh, I didn't realize it was a three when they launched three. I don't know. Like three, four years ago. So I didn't watch the cars trilogy. That's actually another one of my blind spots. I've watched parts. Like I don't think I've ever just sat down and watched cars in high school. One of my girlfriends, her twin sister was a,
01:35:56
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This is too much information, but one of her favorite movies was Cars, and her favorite character was Mater. And I was like, why the hell do you like this? Her favorite movie. Yeah, it was her favorite movie is the original Cars, and she loved Mater and constantly watched it. This makes her sound like I was a child dating children, but no, we were in high school, like 15, 16 years old. And yeah, I watched it here and there.
01:36:22
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I was, I was also 15, 16 to clarify. So I want to make sure that we're on that point. It's all above board. It's all above board. And yeah, I remember I would go over to their house and she would like not joking, like watch cars like once a week. So I've seen like the majority of it, but I never gave it a chance. Cause I would always just like jokingly bash her, like bash the movie to her and be like, Oh, Mater's like such a dumb character, blah, blah, blah. And she'd just get so offended.
01:36:47
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defensive oh wow it's kind of like how I like built a relationship with her her sister like a friendly relationship again clarify clarify like a friendly relationship you know it's just like poking fun but yeah I yeah I never really like took the time to watch it and then obviously I'm not gonna watch cars 2 or cars 3 but I remember watching the trailer for cars 3 and
01:37:07
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It's like an intense trailer where Lightning McQueen or whatever gets into like a terrible car accident or something and the wheels are flying. I remember watching me like Jesus Christ. Is this a kids movie? Yeah, no, honestly. He just lost his limbs. I highly suggest just watch the trailer for Cars 3 because it seems intense. Like it seems like it is made for adults. I'm not even joking. And again, it was critically well received. But yeah, I'm always in for a new Pixar movie except for the Cars.
01:37:34
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Sounds almost like the trajectory of Iron Man one, two and three. Iron Man one was the best. Iron Man two was not the best. It was one of the worst MCU movies, not bad, but it wasn't the best. And then and then Iron Man three, he basically gets blown up and loses his suit and he's you know what I'm talking about.
01:37:51
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Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about you, man. I think I like Iron Man 2 better than Iron Man 3 personally. I like Iron Man 3. I don't like Iron Man 3 that much. Yeah, that's true. I think Iron Man 3 is cool. I forgot. Yeah, the critically acclaimed part of the trajectory doesn't work here. Yeah, that's a good point. I agree. Just because I love Sam Rockwell. There's a problem with Iron Man 3 and the number of suits and how easily they're destroyed. Yeah. That was my biggest problem. That's a little bit of a plot thing.
01:38:13
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But I really love the aspect of like Tony Stark dealing with PTSD from going into space. That was my favorite part. That's the coolest part. Yeah. Again, I was connecting Steve McQueen. Steve McQueen is his name. Like Steve McQueen, like a director. That's an actor. Oh, like Lightning McQueen is a clear reference to the actor, the famous actor, Steve McQueen. Anyways, Steve McQueen of the McQueen family lineage, of course. Usually that's how it works, although his name could be made up considering Hollywood actor names. But anyways, number seven. Oh.
01:38:43
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As website IGN reports, Netflix has ordered two seasons of an animated TV series adaptation of the Ubisoft-developed video game series Splinter Cell. John Wick creator Derek Kolstad is set to executive produce and write the series. The Splinter Cell franchise spans seven video game iterations following NSA secret agent Sam Fisher as he performs covert stealth operations. The most recent sequel to the Splinter Cell video game series was launched in 2013.
01:39:12
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Adrian, what do you make of this news? It's a little bit weird, I think, considering that there hasn't been a, again, I'm not, I'm not a fan of Splinter Cell, I don't really care all that much, but I just, I feel for the fans of the video game series, because not only are they teasing Sam Fisher, who's the main character in the Splinter Cell games, and I guess the soon to be series, he was like in a random mission in like the Ghost Recon Wildlands game, and they just released some random mobile
01:39:39
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game where he's one of the main characters and now they're doing a tv show it almost seems like they're teasing like a video game release which is kind of cool hopefully that's happening though i hope it builds up to it what if it's not happening because people have been clamoring for this for a long time yeah man and forever i mean since 2013
01:39:57
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Yeah man, that's essentially forever. So it's weird. To me it's a little strange. I don't get why they would do this. Just launch the game first. Do you know that you have fans for it? So then why wouldn't you launch the video game iteration, like the next sequel based on the fact that you know you have people that would watch this series? It's a strange concept to me.
01:40:17
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Again, if you talked to any Splinter Cell fan, they're usually a little bit bitter, almost like Half-Life fans. Again, another famous video game series this time created by Valve, the developer. This one created by Ubisoft. It's a surprise that Ubisoft would team up with Netflix to create this series without just launching a game first.
New Series Announcements and Industry Collaborations
01:40:36
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So an interesting tidbit is that this information of the Splinter Cell TV show leaked. So it wasn't officially announced by Ubisoft and Ubisoft actually declined to comment on it. They're having another, they call it the Ubisoft Forward, which is kind of like a virtual press conference coming in September.
01:40:55
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so it is like possible that they're planning on announcing this in that forward event and then announcing the game itself like a new game itself maybe maybe they were just unlikely game and then let netflix announce that's a possibility so maybe that's the plan but i don't know i find it especially interesting because i feel like ube soft is kind of delving into like the tv show and movie sort of
01:41:16
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atmosphere ecosystem. Cause previously they announced, I don't know if you recall it, like the division movie that was supposed to star Jessica Chastain and Jake Gyllenhaal. Like they both, they were both signed on and we haven't heard anything about that for over like two years. So it was supposed to be a Splinter Cell movie with Tom Hardy as Sam Fisher. Do you remember that as well? No, I don't. I know. I love Tom Hardy. I wish he was in everything. Just fell through. So that was supposed to happen as well. And that didn't happen. Interesting.
01:41:41
Speaker
So I feel like they're really pushing this almost multi sort of entertainment thing. So not only are they going to do video games, but they'll also do, you know, movies and TV shows. I'm sure they have random Ubisoft comic books and stuff like that based on their own like franchises. Have they launched anything yet game wise that you can recall recently about anything they've launched as a movie from one of their franchises. That's extremely popular.
01:42:07
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I'm sure there's something we're missing. Assassin's Creed. Assassin's Creed. They watched the Assassin's Creed movie with Michael Fassbender. Yeah, so they already dived into that to a certain extent. And I don't believe that movie was critically well received by any stretch of the imagination. Yeah, that trailer didn't look good, so that's why I didn't watch it.
01:42:24
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Yeah, it had that awful music. It didn't fit the period. It didn't make any sense to me. Some random like hip hop rap song. I was confused. It's not my cup of tea. Not to say that it's horrible music. Michael Fassbinder is pretty great though. I love Michael Fassbinder. Maybe I should have given it maybe a little bit of a chance, but I don't think it again, as you mentioned, wasn't very well received critically. Apparently there's a detectives cut, a director's cut of that movie that has yet to see the light of day.
01:42:46
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Speaking of detectives, the last minute addition we could just talk about it here briefly maybe to the montage was the fact that the detective Pikachu director is he's making essentially for Netflix another Ubisoft property in
01:43:01
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Beyond good and evil. Beyond good and evil. Yeah. Yeah. I heard about that because you sent me a link on it. Not that we talk. We do send links to each other, but we don't talk anyways. Yeah. I definitely saw that as well. This was a movie though, not a TV series. And it's a movie. Yeah. It's going to be a mixture of animation in that just like detective Pikachu. They're going to use CG elements with live action.
01:43:24
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There's a lot of anthropomorphic animals in the game games again Beyond Good and Evil is like a space drama type thing where you get any attachment to the game the character Jade I haven't played the the game, but that's the weird thing about this is another property that they just can't seem to release as a game they've have a sequel in the works they've had it in the works and have hyped it for years and
01:43:46
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They showed gameplay like three, four years ago, like that, like relatively extensive alpha demo that looked beyond amazing. It looked great. And they just don't have a release date at all. So hopefully again, that Ubisoft forward conference you just alluded to earlier, maybe they'll announce the beyond good and evil release date. But again, it's odd to me that they would talk about TV, sorry, a movie in this case.
01:44:13
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but not have the game that they've already said they're going to launch coming out. Yeah. It's a little odd. We'll see what happens, but definitely Ubisoft and Netflix are teaming up in a big way. I wonder what's next. Like a rainbow six TV show or a far cry.
01:44:29
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Far Cry would be kind of neat because you could do whatever you want. You could just do because it's a series that's iterative. It's an anthology series essentially. A neat idea. I think they could, I think that's like one of their only properties that I think they could do incredibly well or that actually. The villains are so cinematic. Like they just, again, they just cast John Carlo Esposito. They had Michael Mando, who also was in Better Call Saul, as we mentioned last episode.
01:44:53
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in Far Cry, in the Far Cry video game series. So it'll be interesting to see if they could, again, just creating villains is what they seem to specialize at for the Far Cry series. So creating a movie out of that actually might be quite neat. Yeah, I would like to see that. Alrighty. Cool. That's it for the news. Now I went to the montage, a sequence of our show in which I briefly present the week's smaller news stories as Adrian delivers a brisk verdict.
01:45:17
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1. According to Variety, an Adam McKay-produced limited series is in development at HBO based upon the Brendan Borrell book The First Shot that centers around the search for a coronavirus vaccine. 2. As Deadline reports, WarnerMedia is investigating Ellen DeGeneres' show, Ellen, for allegations of a toxic work culture. Ellen, out of all the people,
01:45:41
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3. As reported by Variety on July 30th, Oprah Winfrey launched a new interviews TV series called The Oprah Conversation on the Apple TV Plus streaming platform. 4. According to Deadline, Stanley Tucci will star in Alejandro Amenabar's AMC TV series, La Fortuna. The story follows the team attempting to recover stolen treasure by Tucci's character Frank Wilde.
01:46:07
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It's lost treasure from the ocean, apparently. Interesting, very interesting.
01:46:26
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6. As reported by the BBC, the movie theatre chain View is looking to open many of their theatres on August 7th with COVID-19 precautions in place. 7. As reported by Website Collider, Amy Adams will star and produce a movie adaptation of the yet to be released Rachel Yoder novel Night Bitch.
01:46:48
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It's about a dog in the night. 8. Variety has reported that Amazon has purchased the rights to Regina King's directorial debut One Night in Miami, which follows the story of Cassius Clay, Malcolm X and Jim Brown as they together shaped the civil rights movement in the 1960s.
01:47:06
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Regina King, the Queen of the Watchmen TV series. 9. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Amazon Studios has greenlit a Lady Macbeth musical with Scooter Braun and Channing Tatum producing.
01:47:24
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As IGN reports, showrunner Craig Mazen reassures fans that HBO's The Last of Us TV series only aims to enhance and not undo the original game series.
01:47:43
Speaker
Planning about the storyline of The Last of Us Part 2, acting like you know these characters better than the freaking creator. How about you shut up, you shut up, you take it. Either you enjoyed the story or you didn't. But if you didn't enjoy the story, you shut up. I don't want to hear it anymore. You complain about this SJW agenda, you shut up about that too. You especially shut up if you're going to complain about that. You're worried about lesbians being a main character, shut up about that.
01:48:08
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You know what? You're worried about a trans character being in the TV show or in the movie or in the game? Shut up. You know what? Everyone complaining about this fantastic series needs to shut up. I love it. What a brisk verdict. Number 11. According to Deadline, Detective Pikachu director Rob Letterman has been hired by Netflix to direct a movie adaptation of developer Ubisoft's space adventure video game Beyond Good and Evil. I swear to God we just talked about that. And that concludes the montage.
01:48:37
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Wow, another long montage. We are now onto our segment that dives into new releases for next week or this week, I suppose. The movies releasing this week, this is the segment of it. This is all the segments of all the movies released in this week, according to the hit website, the most notable website known to man, the most, the website we can always count on, m.the-numbers.com.
01:49:06
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the best website on the internet for figuring out when movies are releasing. Just the best website period. So there's a few movies that are coming out this week. Mind you, all of these are cross-referenced with multiple websites. I made sure to check if these movies were coming out through multiple websites. So if I'm wrong, it's because at least two to four websites were wrong. I just want to be clear about that. It's not my fault.
01:49:34
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If it's anyone's fault, blame Simon. Anyways, the first movie coming out, there's a few movies coming out, so it's not necessarily the first movie that's coming out, but all these movies that I'm about to list are coming out on August the 7th. Are you prepared? I'm prepared. Dude, awesome. I've been prepared for the last two minutes.
01:49:50
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Okay, so the first movie that I have written down is a movie called Black Water Abyss. It's releasing, once again, on August 7th. Some sort of PG-rated crocodile horror movie. There's water, there's a crocodile trying to kill people. Sounds like your kind of movie. Honestly, it does. I love these kinds of movies. Sometimes I just want to see people get killed. You know what I mean? That's why I love Liveleak. Anyways, it's currently at a 33% on Rotten Tomatoes.
01:50:21
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It's a 33% on Rotten Tomatoes, so not doing too well. No, that's not good at all. No, there's 12 reviews. Oh, okay. That's pretty low. Yeah. Anything can happen. So yeah, that's, that's coming out. That's coming out. The next movie coming out, this one's a little bit weird because it is listed as coming out on August the 7th theatrically, as well as digitally on multiple sites. But the trailer says it's coming out digitally at a different date.
01:50:48
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So this one's a little bit weird. It's called, I used to go here. So it's aimed to come out again, August 7th, theatrically. And then it's said to come out September 14th digitally in the trailer. I checked this on IMDB, Google Rotten Tomatoes. They all said August 7th. The trailer is the only one that says that it's coming out. It seems like again, they're not updating these things because of COVID-19. COVID-19. It's a weird one.
01:51:10
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It is odd. However, this movie is actually sitting at like 93% on Rotten Tomatoes. Quite a few reviews. It's starring Gillian Jacobs, Gillian Jacobs, Gillian Jacobs. I think it's Gillian. Gillian. She's in Community most notably. She's also in the Netflix original series Love, which I really love. And it also has Germaine Clement.
01:51:29
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Jermaine Clemens. He's most notably in, at least for me, what we do in the shadows, the movie. He's in, he's Tomatoa in Moana. He is in a bunch of other stuff. I can't think of off the top of my head. Yeah, he's in it. So that's pretty cool. That is again aimed for an August 7 theatrical release. However, most notably, I think it is actually coming out September 14th digitally. So I didn't want to say that.
01:51:55
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The next movie coming out is made in Italy. Once again, this is estimated for August 7th. Google and IMDB both say this. The trailer just says summer. It is starring Liam Neeson and it is a father son sort of comedy drama. No action in this one.
01:52:13
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No, actually in this one. Oh, cool. Except his wife is dead. And guess what he's doing with his son? He's murdering the people that killed his wife. Anyways, that's not actually the plot of the movie, but his wife is dead in the movie. That sounds like much of a comedy. No, but his wife's dead. Oh, in the movie? Yeah, she is. That's not a joke. That part wasn't a joke. The rest was.
01:52:33
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The next movie coming out is Pay Dirt. According to Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB, as well as Google, it is coming out on August 7th, starring Val Kilmer, some sort of like crime movie, crime drama movie. I watched the trailer, looks pretty mediocre at best, I'll be honest. It looks very non-entertaining, not something I ever wanna watch. And the final movie that is coming out that I'm actually incredibly excited for, this is the one movie, along with I Used to Go Here,
01:53:03
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But this movie I 100% want to watch, The Tax Collector. Me too. Yeah, this is David Iyer movie. Exactly. David Iyer, it's starring Shia LaBeouf. LaBeouf. Got permanent tattoos just for the role. Yes. method acting all the way. And it is for sure coming out, according to the trailer, Rotten Tomatoes, Google IMDB is releasing digitally apparently just for VOD. And that actually made me think of another movie that I watched this week that I failed to mention just
01:53:30
Speaker
super brief, The Peanut Butter Falcon starring Shiloh Buff. I watched that, fantastic. I highly recommend it. I don't want to go too deep into it because we're way past that point, but I highly recommend watching The Peanut Butter Falcon. It came out last year. It's incredibly wholesome, incredibly lighthearted. It's adorable. I loved it. I absolutely loved it.
01:53:50
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Please watch it. It's on Crave TV here in Canada. Cool. And those are the movies coming out this week. According to m.the-numbers.com, the most reputable site in movies releasing. That's right.
01:54:07
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Well, let's reach into the mailbag for a moment here, shall we? On a weekly basis, we ask our listeners to write into us with comments and questions by way of Twitter or by email to splitfocuspodcastatgmail.com. Kenneth Stadelbar wrote into us once more, and he said, firstly, Simon, how do you pronounce bouquet? Ballet in Swiss L.A. Yeah, thought so. It's not pronounced like that. It's 10A. Wait, no. Is he writing it's tenet?
01:54:35
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Oh, no. He is running. It's tenant. I feel like there should be in a pregnant pause. I think that's what he's doing. Yeah. It's not pronounced like that. Pregnant pause. It's tenet. It's tenet. It's tenet. I don't know what you're thinking. Tenet. Tenet. Yes. It's tenet. Tenet. I think it's supposed to be a question mark here actually. It's tenet. No, this is confusing. Tenet? Ken. Tenet? Ken, you got to work on your grammar here. I can't read this.
01:55:01
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Although, to be honest, if Tenet, I don't know what you're thinking and then he literally goes into a in brackets part here, my humor isn't really meant for text. I'm more of a verbal humorist and less I'm naked than it's visual.
01:55:15
Speaker
Alright, nextly, Phenomenal Show. So much stuff in development production post right now. As studios open with adjustments for the pandemic, it looks like 2021 will have a ton of things in the can waiting for release. If when theaters release in 2020, what do you choose to show? I'm actually hoping that since major studios will want high-end revenues for blockbusters, we may actually see more indies in theaters this year. Hollywood normally makes about 600 movies a year.
01:55:41
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But some of them, you had to drive 50 kilometers or more to find a theater that screens them. And that will be for a limited run. Also, older movies are getting a revival in theaters, drive-ins in Canada, but also indoor theaters in the irrational states due to lack of new releases. Thanks for the podcasts. Can't wait for a fifth. Signed, Kenneth. And in quotations here, quote, outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read, unquote. A quote by Groucho Marx.
01:56:10
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah. The comedian, the socialist. No, that's Carl. You have to be confused with Carl Marx. Anyways, good news, Ken. Technically, you don't have to wait for the fifth episode at this point in the show because you've already listened to most of it. Yeah, you should have said sixth episode, Ken.
01:56:31
Speaker
Well, guess what? You won't have to wait for the sixth episode if you watch this next Monday. Don't do that. Try and keep up with it. Yeah, it's more. It helps us out. Anyways, thanks again, Ken, for writing in. I do appreciate it. I appreciate the insight, as always. Again, anyone listening to the show, please write in. But in this topic of movies to release and to show, there is a question of, again, are we going to see more Indies this year?
01:56:57
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Yeah, well, we see more indies. Theoretically, there was actually a belief. I read an article saying that we won't see any indies. That's interestingly. So it's an interesting thing that there's a belief that it could go either way, I guess. I don't know. We'll see what happens. But yeah, there's a there's a money issue, the risk, the risk we talked about last week. Well, we see these movies come to pass because of the risk of of making them blockbusters that they know are a sure thing. Like superhero movies are still likely to come.
01:57:25
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come to be or Jurassic World movies. But what will we see with the smaller directors that can't necessarily afford it and require investors to invest? I think it's the big question of what might happen. But it would be nice to see theater. I think he's referencing, at least for the meantime, the movies that have already gone to festivals and have kind of already gone through the circuit. And
01:57:50
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don't really take big theatrical releases or don't happen as often, except for movies again that you drive very far to get to. So it will be interesting to see if we start seeing more artsy films in the coming months while we don't get it. Actually, like The Rental is a good example. The Rental did fairly well in theaters, if I recall. We didn't get to see it in Canada at all because there's no theaters open. Also, they didn't make it available on any service in Canada to watch. You can't even rent it.
01:58:16
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The rental was Dave Franco's directorial debut with Alison Bree starring. It's a horror movie. Thriller thriller semantics. Look at you. Look at you. But anyways, yeah, so that's something to consider. I'm curious to see. What do you think? Do you think that's going to happen? I don't know, man. I see more Indies now in drive like interesting one. I feel like I looked at our local drive-in in Guelph and I found that they were playing movies that are really old. They played Back to the Future recently. They played
01:58:45
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Yeah, that's what Ken is referencing here. It would be nice to see indie movies. I would go see it, but they're not going to draw up any interest maybe for that. That's maybe the criticism.
01:58:54
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But I don't know, I think I kind of get where he's coming from or where Ken's coming from in the sense that the indie movies don't necessarily rely all that heavily on like movie theater experience or like the movie theater sales. That's my assumption. Usually like indie movies, you know, they get the traction after they, you know, are nominated for an Oscar and then everyone pays for the streaming and everything along those lines. Like Parasite is a prime example.
01:59:19
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When that was nominated for the Oscar and when it won the Oscar It had so many rentals on iTunes and like it was still playing in theaters But I think it probably got most of the money like through rentals on these streaming services
01:59:32
Speaker
So I don't know, I kind of, I kind of see where he's coming from now that, you know, the blockbusters aren't willing to risk putting their movies in theaters and then, you know, not gaining any profit. These indie movies that have less to lose, arguably more to lose, but you know, like they don't rely on the movie theater ticket sales as much. They'll just be placed in the movie theaters. And now we'll have these random smaller indie movies that we can just go ahead and watch.
01:59:54
Speaker
Well, any movie theaters that are scrambling to try to reopen or to drum up business, they don't have anything to show because no one's willing to release their movies to take the risk in the first place. So they're willing to put something like the rental in theaters. Theoretically, Cineplex, as it opens, should put the rental in theaters here. That actually might be the spot that we see it before we even see it on video on demand. Just because of some weird rule that, again, it's on Hulu. I don't get why we can't have some translation here for Canada. We're just ignored.
02:00:21
Speaker
But regardless, I think that would happen actually. So, Cineplex opens in the next few weeks. We might see The Rental as one of the first movies that launch. Yeah, like there's a movie. So, I mentioned it last week, this Summerland movie that I talked about where the trailer essentially reveals the entire plot of the movie. Right. That's released digitally for VOD. However, there's a small cinema nearby, Princess Cinemas. That's playing in Princess this week. Oh, good. Yeah.
02:00:45
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So I think it kind of adds to Ken's point. I can I can definitely see where he's coming from. And I would love it if we got to see more indie flicks in these bigger, bigger theaters, because you and I would always have to go to Princess to see all those like Oscar non-movies. That's where I watch Parasite.
02:01:00
Speaker
Right. It's a little bit of a drive. Well, at least for me anyway, it would be nice. It's closer to my place, but yeah. Yeah. It would be nice if we had it in the mainstream. Yeah. Exactly. That'd be stellar. So I don't know. I hope that's the case. It would be really nice because then ideally these smaller indie movies will actually make more money because everyone that's hankering to go back to the movie theaters will go just to watch these movies that hypothetically they probably wouldn't have watched otherwise. Yeah. You know what I mean? Points. Good points for sure.
02:01:26
Speaker
So I hope that's the case. I'm super excited. And yeah, I don't know. I still really want to watch the rental. It's relatively well received. I think it's in the mid 70s on Rotten Tomatoes as an example. So critics are seemingly liking it. Yeah. If that went into the theaters, I would definitely go watch it there considering I can't fucking watch it anywhere else. Palm Springs as a prime example. That's the literally annoying one. I want to see that badly. Yeah, me too. It's literally stuck on Hulu in the States. You can't rent it anywhere.
02:01:54
Speaker
There's a rental on Hulu as well. Sorry. I said that earlier, but I'm not sure. I thought that was the case, but maybe no, no, no. Rental is only VOD. The rental is only available as a rental digitally. Yeah. Digital services. So, um, I, uh, I actually got a VPN to see like, if I can access these movies and again, uh, Hulu, you re require an American credit cards. There's no way of accessing it. I tried to get in there before.
02:02:17
Speaker
with a tactic. It's not possible. You could do it. It's why would you spend the time and get an American credit card. You have to have an address in the States. It's just ridiculous. I want to pay for it. Take my money is like dude. Yeah, like literally taking my money. I even tried to rent the rental because I got the VPN and it just wasn't letting me know. So that was incredibly frustrating. Whatever. I'll live with it. Oh,
02:02:39
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Yeah. Again, thank you, Ken, for writing in. We also got another. I love you. Another gentleman wrote into us. Oliver Papov wrote into us by email and he said, Hi, I find Amaleto short film series to be really cool and decent quality considering you guys should review it. Thanks. What is Amaleto?
02:02:57
Speaker
So Amoletto is essentially, it's like a film aggregator for short films that kind of go through the festival circuit. Their whole mission statement is, well, I'll just read it here actually. I've got a little blurb from their website. Have a short film that needs eyeballs? Let Amoletto play Moneyball with your film. The company is one part programming, one part data analytics, comprised of teammates spread across the world.
02:03:20
Speaker
What started as an experiment during the early Wild West days of YouTube turned into a successful launching point for short films, some landing anywhere from 20,000 to 20 million views.
02:03:31
Speaker
So the concept, they grab movies or these short films, they get submitted to their platform and then they make them popular by figuring out algorithms on Google, et cetera, to make them popular because these short films, they'll even win the festival. But the problem with them is that they still don't get viewed. They'll be thrown on YouTube and then nobody ever even sees them. And so that's kind of a crime in their eyes and they want to make sure that it just gets exposure. Because again, not everyone goes to these festivals and then afterwards they're just forgotten.
02:03:59
Speaker
So that's kind of the idea. I watched one short film from Amaleto. It's a Steven Yoon short film, actually. So I was thinking... Made by him or starring him? He's starring in it. It's about eight minutes, I think. So I was thinking for next week, we can watch a couple of these short films, just to investigate the Amaleto website, take a little bit of a look at it, like an adagander at Oliver's request here, and just tell us, you know, tell the, I guess the audience our thoughts on how it runs and some of these short films, because some of these short films are
02:04:28
Speaker
Really well-made because again, there are festival winners. So it's definitely worth a shot. That's yeah, man I'm sort of like our review of quibi. I was literally just about to say that. Yeah, it reminds me of quibi almost in a way kind of Yeah, it's free right. Yeah, it's free. You don't have to even pay anything. So it's kind of cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool
02:04:49
Speaker
Uh, I know like Ari Aster, director of Midsomer and, um, hereditary, he released like a few short films on YouTube as well that I've been meaning to watch. I'm curious if they might be on him just for exposure. I think they've been in this game for a little while.
02:05:06
Speaker
Cool, man. Yeah, that's an awesome idea. I'm super down to talk about that and give a little review on that. So that's, I guess, my homework. And if you are also a viewer and you're willing to watch it yourself, I'd love to hear any viewers' feedback.
Listener Engagement and Show Conclusion
02:05:19
Speaker
You can write in to splitfocuspodcast.gmail.com. Give Amaleto a try and let us know what you think about it as well, because that is what I will do for you next.
02:05:30
Speaker
week excellent thank you all for pop off for writing in and I love you guys your thoughts you love him uh yeah I don't I don't know if you like you when you said I love you to me it means less no because this is a random you know what I take it back person I take it back can we cut this out I'm just kidding no I'm leaving it in on no
02:05:50
Speaker
You know what? So like, let me, let me, let me, let me just, let me take a step back. Okay. I'm in love with you. Oh my God. Let's just end the show here. I think we're done, right? I think we're done. Yeah. Let's call it. Thank you for listening to the fifth episode of Split Focus, a film and TV podcast. My name is Simon Edie and this is Adrian Pinter signing off.
02:06:11
Speaker
You know, I'm gonna sign off, but before I do so, I want everyone to hear this, and hear this, and remember this, and fall asleep to this. Batman v Superman is a great movie. Anyways, take care. Goodbye. Take care, once again.