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What If Things Falling Apart Is Actually Things Falling Into Place?

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In this episode, I’m opening up about a month where things didn’t quite go to plan. I’ve experienced rejection, opportunities falling apart, and moments where I could have easily slipped into doubt. But instead of seeing these moments as things going wrong, I’ve been asking a very different question…

What if this is happening for me?

What if the right person is about to appear?

What if a better opportunity is on its way?

What if this moment of resistance is actually an invitation to expand?

We dive into the power of reframing the challenges in our lives and how the energy we bring to our dreams can either push them away… or magnetise them toward us.

I also talk about:

✨ Where resistance might be showing up in your life ~ and how to shift your perspective

✨ Why the energy of desperation repels what we want (and how to play a little “hard to get” with your dreams)

✨ Why we shouldn’t chase our dreams just to feel something ~ we need to embody the feeling first

✨ The difference between a higher power and your higher self

✨ How expanding your life sends a powerful signal to the universe that you’re ready for more

✨ And I share the oracle cards I pulled for the year and how they’re already unfolding in the most magical ways

If things haven’t been going the way you hoped lately, this episode is here to remind you that you still get to choose your story.

Let the magic begin.

Cleo xx

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The Pass Around the Smile podcast is recorded on Bundjalung Country, in South East Queensland, Australia. We acknowledge the Yugambeh people of the Bundjalung Nation, the traditional owners of this land. We pay our respects to Elders past, present and emerging.

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Introduction to Pass Around the Smile

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Pass Around the Smile is like your go-to friend, the one that lifts you up and backs you to the end. She's there to guide and inspire, challenge and teach, and remind you that your best self isn't out of reach. Self-development, manifestation, self-love and more, it's time to trust the process more than ever before.
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Welcome to Pass Around the Smile, the podcast. I'm your host, Cleo Massey, and I am so glad you're here. Let the magic begin.
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Hello, my

Episode Theme: Rejection and Flow

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smileys, and welcome back to another Pass Around the Smile podcast episode. As you can see from this title, this episode is all about when things are falling apart, when you're getting lots of no's, maybe rejection, when things aren't flowing. Maybe it's because everything is about to make sense. Maybe it's because the miracle is about to occur.
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I have done podcast episodes around this kind of theme of like why humans quit and will tend to quit right before the miracle occurs. But this is a different spin. I'm not just repeating episodes I've already done. This is like a kind of different spin on it. And it's come from something personal that has been happening to me recently. And

Personal Vulnerability and Manifestation Challenges

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as you know, on this podcast, I like to share my own stories because I think it really helps you guys. I actually have been experiencing a little bit of what they call and a vulnerability hangover after episodes lately because I'm opening up about the behind the scenes of my Pass Around the Smile tour to you guys. I know it's helpful and I know you guys are finding it interesting, but I would be lying if I said it was easy for me to just tell you about like my struggles and how, you know, I'm manifesting something so exciting for me and everything that's getting in the way, because I would love to just tell you I'm manifesting this thing and everything is working out so easily and perfectly. But I think that my podcast wouldn't be as relatable if I did that. So please guys continue to reach out, comment on Spotify. It please like know that I'm not just
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asking for like validation or comments for the sake of it. It actually genuinely helps me continue this podcast because this podcast is, it's hard work. It's hard

Importance of Listener Feedback and Engagement

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work to continue creating episodes that are really well thought out, um you know, edited perfectly. Well, not perfectly because we are We are imperfect here at the Pass Around the Smile podcast, but it is a really big job. So for me to continue, i love to hear from you guys. Like, what do you want to hear about? What do you want more of? Did the episode resonate? Whether it's on Spotify or an Apple review or... a comment on Instagram letting me know that you guys are actually listening and resonating lights the fire in my belly to keep creating more. um Yeah, it's not just me being like, validate me, maybe a little bit, let's be real. But no, I really do want and need your guys' feedback to continue on which i I do get and I love. But it just

Community Announcements and Tour Plans

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also helps me create episodes that you guys want to hear as well. If you have any questions that you want me to answer on the Pass Around the Smile podcast as well,
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pop it in the comments or on the Facebook community. And as you always know, all of the links to the Facebook community and everything is in the show notes. You can always join the community. It's very, it's a very beautiful community. um Wow, guys, we are like two months out from the tour.
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So if you are in Melbourne, Sydney or the Gold Coast, I hope you've got your tickets. I hope you're gathering your friends or coming alone. I've seen a lot of people book single tickets just so you know if you're coming alone, it's going to be absolutely fine, really safe space. But if you do want to grab your colleagues, friends, families, you know, make a night of it, go to dinner. It's going to be fun. It's going to be uplifting. cannot wait to see you guys there. Wow, what a process. What a process creating this tour has been. We'll get to the BTS as I promise you guys I do at the end of every episode, but I want to get right into resistance versus curiosity, disappointment versus possibility, control versus trust. Now,

Rejection, Victim Mentality, and Energy Alignment

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something I have recently been experiencing, as I've mentioned to you in my last solo episode, is lots lots of rejection, lots of no, and things falling apart.
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I found myself falling into that victim trap of like, why me? This isn't working out. This must be a sign that it's not, you know, meant to be. I'm not supported. I'm not feeling supported. It's not happening.
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And like, was that helping me? No. In the moment? Absolutely not. Was it helping my future? Absolutely not. Was it helping my desired reality manifest in the way that I want it to manifest? Like if I'm manifesting being this confident, inspiring podcast host, having her very first tour in three cities,
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The desired reality energy that surrounds that is that of positivity, of optimism, of courage. Whereas if I'm sinking into that victim reality and feeding my beliefs that I'm not good enough, that things aren't working out, that no one wants to work or support with me, then how do those energies match up from a manifestation point of view? They simply don't. So it's no matter, it's no wonder why, sorry, I was experiencing these blocks.
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And what I, I was brushing my teeth just last night. And I was like, I really want to record an episode today. And what am I like? What am I going through at the moment?

Realization: Creating Your Own Reality

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Because I think that's what is like fun and helpful for you guys when I share actual experiences and stories.
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And I was brushing my teeth and I just got this wave of optimism. And it's like my angels or the universe or someone was there just being like, Cleo, you've kind of forgotten you You get to decide what you want. You get to, you know, you can dictate your reality. Like, you know, there's so much science that backs it. You know, you've experienced firsthand manifesting the most incredible things so specific that you have no choice to know that you created that thing in your life. So why?
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Like, why are you thinking otherwise? It was like someone was talking to me. and just like brushing my teeth. And I was like, oh, yeah. And I got like hit with this wave of hope and optimism, remembering that, oh, yeah, I get to choose. And it's so exciting that I get to create happiness. And I get to perceive things how I want to perceive things. All of a sudden, I realized that these rejections and these no's and things falling apart, I could perceive them as what they seem like they are in reality, which is what they were, no's and rejections.
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Or i get to choose to be like, oh my gosh, well, I wonder what's going to happen then. I wonder what the universe is cooking up behind the scenes to make this work for me. I'm so excited to see the person that is brought into my life that is going to help me fix this. I wonder who they're going to be. I wonder what they're going to be like. I am so excited to get emails this week that like help the puzzle pieces come together. I wonder what they're going to be. I wonder what they're going to offer. I wonder who they're going to be from. And all of a sudden I just started getting excited and I started remembering that there are a million possibilities and opportunities out there for me in a positive sense, because I was feeding the beliefs that were like, there are so many things that can happen in a negative sense. And of course we know where energy goes.
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No, where attention goes, energy flows. And that's what I was doing. And I won't go too much into that side of things because I feel like we've already chatted about that in recent episodes. But I want to challenge you. Where in your life at the moment are you feeling resistance? You might be feeling a little bit blocked. You might be feeling like things just aren't quite going your way or the way that they should be going.
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And how can you reframe that? If something's not working out, yes, we've talked about rejection is redirection, but more than that, like, let's go further. Okay. If something's not working out, then what is going to work out? This is so exciting. It might be completely unknown to you.
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Let's skip back to 2015 Cleo, who was like, acting is my be all and end all. This is all I want to do. This is all that's right for me. If I had told my 15 to 25 year old self that there is something else out there and it's got really nothing to do with acting. Well, maybe a little bit. I feel like it's, it's quite nice looking back because I'm like, I think a lot of my acting experience does come out in like my storytelling or the videos, the reels that I put up promoting past around the smile or just talking about like the universe or my cards, the law of attraction, especially now my tour, I'm going to be on stage.
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So that is nice and really comforting to me that like, Not that it ever would have been a waste, but it is nice to look back and think that parts of your life actually helped get you to where you are now in different ways. um So i would I would encourage to journal about that as well. Like were there parts of your life where you were doing something or you experienced something or you had a certain conversation that made you the person that you are today in ways that aren't necessarily obvious, because that's another sign that the universe has got your back and everything is happening how it should.

Growth from Past Experiences

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But yeah, if we go back to that Clio,
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Like i I was so sure and I was so, i held so much resistance and I was controlling my life that nothing was changing literally for 10 years. Like I was just meeting block after block. I was forcing, I was hustling. I was like...
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grabbing and like chasing. And we don't need to chase our dreams. Let your dreams chase you. It's like, if you look at it in the dating world, right? If someone is really desperate for a partner, that's kind kind of going to repel that person from wanting to be with them because it's not an energy that feels natural and nice to be around when someone is like fighting for your attention and like longing for you to like say certain things or be there all the time. So use that.
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in a sense that it's your dreams like if you're so desperate and needy toward your dreams you're going to repel that energy away from you so it's kind of like we need to play hard to get a little bit with our dreams there were certain roles that i went for in the acting world within that 10 years where i was absolutely hustling to become this successful actress i so desperately wanted to be i was so sure that this was the role that would change everything for me and that would bring so much happiness and fulfillment. Lesson one inside of a lesson is if you are chasing something, and I'm saying chasing because you would be chasing a dream if you think it's going to make you happy
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feel successful, feel fulfilled. If you're chasing it to feel something, it's not going to show up in your life in the way that you want. And it's not going to be easy because you are chasing something to feel something externally. You are waiting for something external. In my position, I was waiting for the roles. to make me happy, to make me feel successful, to make me feel fulfilled, to prove something to me, to prove something to other people. See how that ah energy comes from like a lack, an energy of proving, an energy of desperation. Whereas
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if I had created an internal state of peace and fulfillment and success within my body, mind and soul on my own with no external factors that dictated that. I would have very effortlessly attracted incredible, beautiful opportunities that filled me up to no end. And I can see that now. Yeah.
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But these roles that I was so desperate for, right? I remember just being absolutely devastated when I saw that someone else got those roles. Absolutely heartbroken.

Gratitude for Paths Not Taken

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But looking back now, I'm honestly like, thank God. Thank God. So what in your life right now is not working for you? I promise you that a future version of you will look back and go, thank God, because...
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Who is about to walk into your life that wouldn't have if you got that opportunity? Or what opportunity is about to unfold in front of you that wouldn't have if you had the opportunity that you thought was right for you? Or what dream house is about to become available to you with a pool cheaper and in a better location than the house you swore was perfect for you? And it gets to be really exciting. Like like it we get to...
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Write down a goal, put out a manifestation to the universe, like whatever you want, whatever you want. Now, if you perceive that dream to be big and scary, that it's going to take years to attract, then yeah, it's going to be hard. It's going to be a slog and it's probably not going to manifest for you. However, how cool that we as humans have the power to literally ask for anything that we

Manifestation and Intuition

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want. And if we are strong enough to believe that it will come into our lives easily at the perfect time, and be so exciting and fulfilling.
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It will, and it can happen really fast, which I just think is so bloody exciting. Not only when it comes to manifesting, do we as humans hold this incredibly magnetic power, but we as humans are so intuitive. And if you're listening right now and you're thinking, no, I'm not intuitive. I'm not connected to my intuition. Sure. You could be right that you're not connected to your intuition, but you are intuitive and you can become more intuitive.
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and What I really love to do, of course, is my card readings, but in a way that helps me be able to understand, A, what I want to manifest and what would even make me happy if I'm actually confused as to what it is that I want. Because a lot of my smileys come to me being like, I actually don't know what it is that I want. And this might be coming from a place where you're like really unhappy and you don't know what will make you happy or fulfilled, or it could be coming from a place where you're so fulfilled that that you don't actually feel like you need anything else, yet you're kind of like, oh, I want to manifest because I like to manifest and sure, I want more, but I don't actually know what that is. So doing your card readings and getting so connected to that voice inside, I don't know, it's like, it's your higher self, right? So I believe that we have Higher powers. So for me, my higher powers are like my nanny Waters, my grandma Valerie, like Luke's nana Cheryl. I feel like a very feminine protection from them, especially since I've had Indigo. Like I believe they are my higher powers and I believe that the universe is up there as a higher power for me. I believe that there's like spirit guides that have my and my family's back. That's what I believe in. And I definitely ask them to like talk through me when I'm doing podcasts. And honestly, sometimes like, where was I? I think I was, I was doing an event, like a keynote speech at,
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a woman's event and I got off stage and I was like, what the hell did I just say? It was like, I was channeling. It wasn't me. And I can get in that flow quite a lot and it's weird, but it's really cool. I can say things that I'm like, how did I even have that knowledge? Like that didn't really come from me. And even from a personal sense, my mom has said to me sometimes, like, how did you know that? Like that's something only like Nanny Waters would say. And my Nanny Waters, as my real smileys would know, died when I was one. So we are all intuitive beings. And just because I run Pass Around the Smile, the podcast, I'm no more intuitive than you. I have in the past taken time to meditate daily, to journal, to get so connected. to my higher self that I have been so intuitive at times and I've been so unintuitive at times. I don't even know if that's a word, but I've been so connected and I've been so disconnected because I'm human, because life happens, because reality can slap us in the face sometimes. But what I wanted to say, as I was mentioning, that's what I believe higher powers are. Then your higher self, your higher self is the version of you that is has always been within you and will always be within you. I kind of imagine it to be like, there's no right or wrong, but I kind of imagine it that it's like this light of energy that just surrounds me. Sometimes it's around me, sometimes it's in my body, in my heart, in my mind, but it's always there.
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And the higher self is is so sure of who we are, of what we want, of how we should react in certain situations, whether it's, you know, you're falling in love or whether it's something like you're having a confrontation with a work colleague, the higher version of you, if you are able to tap into that version of you, knows exactly how to react.
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That's in a way aligned to your values, to your beliefs, who you're becoming, who you are. I have been so connected to my higher self at times and when I am it's the days the weeks the months that feel easy that feel flowy where you're in alignment where you're making decisions that just feel so easy where you feel so clear clarity is just like there for you. We

Connection to Higher Self for Clarity

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all have the power to be connected to our higher selves and it's comforting to know that we can lean on our higher self as well. So i looked back at my new year card reading. If you are a smiley, you will know exactly what a new year card reading is. If you are new here, a new year card reading is this reading that I do with my Oracle cards. So I have three decks of adult Oracle cards and a kid's deck of Oracle cards. Links are in the show notes. And what you do in January usually is you do a yearly spread. So you get really in tune. You set your space. It's such a beautiful ritual. Like it really does feel magical. And my community love it
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And you pull a card from January, February, March, all the way to December to show you what's coming up for you. Now, if you haven't done your yearly card reading yet, you can absolutely do it now for the rest of the year. And with the cards too, you can also do like, you know, ask questions like, what is happening in my love life right now? Is this person right? Or should i employ this person? Should I go for this job? Give me three cards for past, present, future. Like there's so many questions that you can ask. Anyway, I looked back at my yearly spread and January, the cards that I got were be fearlessly you and forgive. And I remember when the forgive card came out, I was like, oh, What's going to happen? And then something happened where I really did need to forgive this person. And it was just so nice because I knew exactly how to do that because the other card I got for January being be fearlessly you told me exactly how to do it. I opened up the book, I looked at the instructions, and then I was able to forgive this person in a way that just felt right and easy and really um liberating and relieving. So then we moved to February and I got growth. And man, oh man, if you have been listening to my episodes, you will know that in February, have I been challenged and have I grown? Yes, I have. Have I learned so much? Absolutely. This period of growth has been...
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holy moly intense but I know it's making me into the person that I want to be and I know sometimes I'm like universe I don't want to be the example like I know that I have this podcast and I know that I'm trying to teach my smileys lessons but like I don't want to be the example anymore and I'm not being wow wow I'm not saying that February has been like awful like it's just been challenging but hey You want to know what March was?
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My March cards. And obviously we're right around the corner from March and I am welcoming the beautiful new energy that is coming in March and I can already feel it. I got the card new beginnings and be proud. And you will probably know if you have my card decks, the new beginnings card says something like, you know, a new home project or promotion is in the works, like something new and really exciting is coming. And then the be proud card is like, be so incredibly proud of how far you have come and like acknowledge it and celebrate it And I feel that. And as of last week, I employed my very first proper staff member. Her name is Kate. She is a bloody light. She is
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Absolutely incredible. i am. And I did like not a new year card spread the other week. I just did a spread and I was like, just tell me like what's coming up. Like, what do I need to know? Like angels, are you here? Like, just show me that you're guiding me. And I pulled the companion card and it's like a new person, um you know, a work partnership or a relationship is coming into your life. And obviously it was about Kate And it's just so

Bold Business Decisions and Energetic Impact

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exciting. i think me hiring my first staff member is so much more than hiring my first staff member. It is absolutely scary. Do I know what I'm doing? Absolutely not. Am I struck down with like comparison and with not feeling good enough? What's the thing?
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Imposter syndrome. hmm. But I'm saying to the universe, I am ready to expand. And on the day that like Kate started working for me, my Shopify store was like, qing ching, ching, ching. Orders were coming through. It was like the universe is like, you are, you've taken a leap of faith. Yes, it's scary, but we're showing you that by hiring someone and going, I need help to expand, pass around the smile and i am good enough to be someone's boss. I know what I'm doing. Pass around the smile deserves someone that is excited to work there. It's like bringing in opportunities straight away from an energetic point of view. And I believe in this stuff so much. Some of my beautiful friends, so Katie who owns Sabia Co., Millie who owns Carme Jewels and my friend Shannon who owns Lune Jewelry, they all, each of them, have like done things at the start of this year, like moved warehouses into a warehouse that seemed crazy.
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Too big, little scary, too expensive, but they have all or hired staff members that are like big staff members, like full-time, like head of kind of staff members.
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They were all scared. They all felt unsure, but they knew that by showing the universe, no, no, I'm i'm renting this bigger warehouse. I'm i'm hiring this person because My business deserves it. I am telling the universe I'm ready to expand. I'm telling the universe I have the space like physically and energetically for more stock, for more orders, for more money, for more stuff. I trust that this staff member will bring in more, you know, um business. It's
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It's so exciting how quickly things change when you make a decision for you, when you're like, this is going to help expand me. So what do you need to do that is going to expand your dream or make room for your dream to get bigger? Because if Millie and Shannon hadn't got bigger warehouses, then how energetically is their business going to expand when they're in this workshop where they're feeling constricted, restricted, they're in like that scarcity mindset because they're like, Oh, I don't know if I can afford more. But when you take that leap of faith, you're showing the universe as well, that there's trust there, that you're like, I'm so ready to see what you are going to give me to fill this space or to give to this staff member. And like with Katie hiring, you know, this staff member, she's putting trust in another person and she's putting trust in the universe by saying, universe, show me the person that is going to help me get to that next level of business. And so how can you do this in your life right now? Is it a partner you're looking for, like ah a beautiful relationship? Well, make the space, take the leap, get on the dating apps, go out to that
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I don't know, party that is like for, what's it called? Like matchmaking, make room in your wardrobe, create space, show the universe that you're ready. Have you been wanting to start a business? Well, go and get the domain name, like show the universe that you're serious.
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Give the universe a chance to actually work with you. What's another example? Let's say you're wanting to start a hobby. um Let's say it's sewing. Go and buy the machine and go and clear out that spare room in your house. Make it a beautiful space so that you can start sewing. Watch your friends and family start being like, oh, can you make me this? Here's some money. Or jump on Etsy, like make an Etsy store, watch the orders come in. Now, I'm not saying this never has to just revolve around money and business. These are just some examples. But show the universe you're serious. Give the universe a chance to work with you and help you expand. That's exactly what me and my friends have done in January and February. Yes, it was scary, but the changes...
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that happened when we decided we were enough to get that bigger space or to get that staff member. It's like the universe rewards you. Back to my new year card spread. I really wanted to pull like an incredible card for May because obviously my tour is in May.
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And the card that I pulled for May was patience. Now I have a choice to perceive this as like, oh, patience, like, gosh, like what's going to happen that I'm going to have, have to have patience over.

Card Reading Interpretation and Tour Anticipation

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Or I get to choose to perceive that, well, it's patience while my dreams are loading. Like literally this is the most exciting thing. See how I've reframed it guys from saying big. Remember last time I was like, I'm just creating this. I'm making this dream so big in my head. And that's really like stopping me from manifesting a a flowing kind of journey to a successful tour. So it's exciting, not big. It's the most exciting thing I've ever done. But what I'm choosing to see this patience card is, is that...
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I was never doing this tour for money, right? Full transparency. This tour like isn't really going to make me much money. And I'm not saying that from a negative point. I'm saying, I'm actually saying that because I'm doing this tour to show myself that I can do something really exciting. I'm doing this tour so I can give my smileys the most inspirational, positive night out that they've ever had. um And any Any money that comes from it in the future is such a bonus. Now, I do know that money, that new smileys, that so many beautiful opportunities are going to come from this tour in the future. And I think this is what this Patience card is saying. And if you know the decks on the Patience card, you'll know there's like beautiful blue stars all around it. And I remember when I was creating that card, I wanted it to feel like...
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are like almost that like showy star power, like dreams, like your dreams are coming. And that's what the card says, like have patience that your dreams are coming. So I'm choosing it to see it. I'm choosing to see it like that. And that really excites me. And it reminds me in the month of May to have patience, to know that like things are unfolding how they need to, because guess what cards come after May?
00:27:59
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Thank you universe, which is a very positive card. It's like, thank you universe. Like it's just pure gratitude for what is happening around me. Unlock your potential, which is like you have like you're there, like turn the key. You have reached your potential like for now, of course, it's going to change. But for now, step into your power and then trust and receive. So they are the months that follow.
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And I'm just so excited. And like you smileys will know and remember my birth year, the the cards that I, sorry, my pregnancy year, the cards that I pulled when I got pregnant and like they were mind blowing and like to the month. So I just have so much belief in these cards and what they mean, which is just so nice. And my December,
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ends on enjoy the process, which what a beautiful card to round up the year. I think I've got that for December in previous years as well, which is really sweet.

Intuition and Manifestation Insights

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But this is a reminder to look back at your card spread for the new year. Keep looking back at it every month. What was the last month? Did it resonate? Journal about it. What's coming up for you? Have a look back and get in touch with your intuition. You get to decide, you get to connect. And once you are connected, you will gain clarity. You will make decisions much more easily. You will be feeling good, feeling in alignment, feeling in flow. And that's when you manifest without even trying. I hope you guys loved the episode today. Thank you so much for listening. A reminder, I'm coming to Melbourne, Sydney and Gold Coast for a live podcast show in May. Please tell your friends, help me share the word, comment on Spotify or rate on Apple if you like this podcast. It really, really helps me. I love you guys so much. Oh my God, another one done.