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A Thanksgiving Spectacular
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We give our thoughts on Full Gear before diving into the problems with War Games and modern day Survivor Series. Plus, Random Merch of the Week, figure talk, and Listener Mail!
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Thanksgiving Special & Wrestling Previews
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome to the Chick Foley Show.
00:00:27
Speaker
What is up, Foley fam? We are back with a Thanksgiving Spectacular for your eardrums. Going to talk a little bit of full gear, Survivor Series preview. But before we get into that, let me introduce the stars of the show. Sheena, how are you doing?
Holiday Plans & Money Saving Tips
00:00:39
Speaker
Doing good. We just hosted the grandparents here. We're going to have the in-laws here the week after Thanksgiving. We're having a solo Thanksgiving, but it's been lots of family, so it definitely feels like the holidays are upon us.
00:00:52
Speaker
I think it's the way to do it. We've had family on and around the holidays, but we don't got an account for feeding an extra two or three mouths on the big day, man. Groceries are expensive nowadays. I know. A house guest, that runs you another 40 bucks on that Thanksgiving tab. Even better, typically when it's the grands or the in-laws, they foot the bill. They're always taking us out to eat and all that. It usually works out in our favor when they're here.
00:01:14
Speaker
Yeah. All right. Uh,
Podcasting Hustle & Farm Life
00:01:16
Speaker
yeah. So we're gearing up for a big Thanksgiving over here. Marco, what is up? The hardest working man in podcasts. And this guy's on his third pod of the night and, uh, is coming in hot, dude. She's right at, it was, it was like, uh, MJF showing up to that main event match at full gear. Dude, Marco hits you right over, pressing the record button. What's going on, dude?
00:01:33
Speaker
That was like perfect timing. Yeah, it was. Yeah, no, I was already done. I was just using the little boy's room. But other than that, it's been a little crazy, crazy night. I interviewed the macho verse at the beginning of the night, did the raw down, and now I'm here, yeah. So fun times. All right, man. And last, but certainly not least, Jordan, what's happening out in the Midwest, dude?
00:02:01
Speaker
just finished up killing all the turkeys for you fuckers. Got all the harvesting done. You're late, dude. Yeah, you're definitely late. You know, like just now killing them, dude. The hardest working insurance manual ever meet in your life. Jordan Wells. Congratulations. Now I'm just ready for Thanksgiving like you guys and
00:02:21
Speaker
And it, I know it hasn't been that long since we had did a wrestling podcast, but I dunno, man, it just, everything seems like it's been so long ago with how busy life is lately. So it feels like we haven't done one of these in like a month, but it was only like two weeks ago. So yeah, I'm ready to do this.
00:02:38
Speaker
Yeah, it's been really like the whole second half this year. I feel like since football season started between us doing goal line and then coaching Brett's team in real life. Yeah, it's just been busy, man. It's been hard to even find the couple of hours to sit down at night and record anything extra. And to be in our defense, man, I don't think the pro wrestling world has really been like absolutely on fire the last couple of months, man. There's been good stuff, but it's nothing that I've felt like, dude, I got to get on the air and talk about this right away.
00:03:08
Speaker
Sheena, you want to let us know what's new on the form.
00:03:10
Speaker
Oh yeah. We do have some, some new stuff happening on the farm. So I went over to a fellow farmer friend's house and we borrowed her buck. We have some Nigerian dwarf goats. As most of you know, um, we borrowed her buck, which is an intact male goat, Billy goat, Billy goat, basically. And, um, you know, we brought him over to our property and you know, one of our girls was in heat. So, you know, they were, you know, it was, they recording each other and, you know, doing the mating dance and getting up in that it was, it was, okay. So, you know, I've been.
00:03:40
Speaker
into farming and homesteading and stuff for years and years now, right? I've never really looked into what the process of goat mating looks like. You guys, it is absolutely repulsive. The male goat, he pees all over his legs and all over his face and his mouth, and he starts making this horrible noise with his tongue. That's what I do. That's what I do.
00:04:04
Speaker
And he just keeps doing that over and over and he gets up in her face and he like, you know, peas everywhere. And he's just like ramming her with his head. You know, it's just, and I know, and she was all into it, dude, dude. Nani was like, Nani was prancing around just like ready, dude. And so yeah, it was, it was just.
00:04:24
Speaker
So it was a sight to behold, to be honest, I think she's bred now because you know, my, my friend was telling me when she's bred, you know, at first whenever they're like mating or whatever, like they're really like all over each other and you know, running around pissing on each other and everything. But then once like she's actually bred, it's weird how animals know, she just like
00:04:42
Speaker
She doesn't really want anything else to do with him. You know what I mean? She's just like, okay. Well, I'm done now. So typical woman Exactly Yeah, he's here hanging out We're gonna hang on to him until our other our other dough goes into heat to see if we can breed her to and in the spring hopefully we'll have some some kids some goat kids running around and then we'll start to
00:05:08
Speaker
You know, raise them and milk our, our goats. So that'll be a lot of fun. If you want to follow any of that penny dot acre is my, my other personality. So if you, if you're into that kind of thing, seeing, you know, goats mating, then.
00:05:21
Speaker
Head over there. Do you actually have videos of the ghost mating? I haven't posted it yet. I'm actually crafting a reel of the process of it. I want to post some of these videos, because you've got to hear this noise and see the face. He walks around with his tongue out of his mouth. You're going to get banned by Instagram. You're going to have to do it on Charm Hub. Oh, are you going to attach to the post?
00:05:45
Speaker
Maybe some, you know, I'll make love to you, boys and men, you know? No, it needs to be like, we're at Biscuit and Nookie. Yeah, you're right. It was definitely more of a Nookie situation than a love making situation.
Promotions & Social Media Connects
00:05:57
Speaker
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00:06:15
Speaker
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00:06:41
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Wrestling Matches & Storylines
00:07:05
Speaker
Alright, and let's get into the Russell talk so we'll start with just a quick follow up on AW full gear they AW they had their latest paper view this past Saturday night, really two big things I kind of want to get into and then we can kick it around if anybody else has something they want to express feelings on but first, you guys thoughts on the Texas death mass between hangman page and swerve.
00:07:29
Speaker
Freaking brutal, dude. Insane. I just, every time something happened, I would just like be like, okay, well, this is the end. And then some, some other wild crazy shit would happen. And yeah, I just, it was never ending. 30 minutes. It was like 30 minute long.
00:07:44
Speaker
Did usually when someone's getting like staples in their head and their chest, it's like, all right, man, I can't get much worse than this. Like this is the dirty set in the bar high. That was like the lowest point of the match was the beginning of it. It's just, there was so much stuff in that match that I didn't know I ever needed to see, but yeah.
00:08:04
Speaker
I honestly don't know how you don't award that match of the year. I mean, they both went out there and absolutely put it down and put their that's the epitome of putting your body on the line right there. I mean, hangman was drinking somebody else's blood like, dude, I don't know what else you need. That match. So you know, you're in a post COVID era, dude, when they got drinking each other's blood, dude, like
00:08:26
Speaker
I thought that, you know, I was surprised when I looked at the kind of just reading up on like some of the recap articles and stuff online after the show that the match was only 30 minutes, man. Like watching it, I felt like it was like, I thought it was like 40, 45 minutes. And I say that in a good way, not that like the match is dragging on. I just, there was so much stuff and it felt so epic. It felt like it was one of those matches that goes 30 plus.
00:08:48
Speaker
But yeah, I was captivated from start to finish, man. I think it was the rare match where both guys are actually elevated by it. I think Hangman even gained a lot in defeat. He was an absolute monster. It took Prince Nana interfering, Brian Cage interfering, a cinder block to the head just to keep this guy down. And obviously Swerve got the big dub, man. He beat Hangman in his signature match. So yeah, I'm right there with you, Jordan, unless something crazy happens. This last five weeks of 2023,
00:09:16
Speaker
I think it's match of the year and I've been thinking about it since Saturday night. I think it's the best match in AEW history. Wow. Yeah. I thought, I mean, the only, the, I think it's between that and that match from a few, from 2020 when it was hanging man and Kenny against the Bucks. I think that's the two that stand out to me, man, for not even Bucks and the Lucha Bros on that ladder match.
00:09:41
Speaker
that one's up well the cage match is the one that i love most man i love that that cage match i mean they had some good ladder matches too i love that cage match they had on paper view that one's up there that one was badass as well i think the thing that the bucks and the lucha bros lose so much though is that they've had so many just awesome matches like and they've wrestled so much that i feel like everything just kind of runs together like like like you guys are sitting here like you know oh this match oh no it's this match and then
00:10:03
Speaker
I think they all kind of just feel the same. Not that, not to take anything away from those guys, but it's just different when two people who don't normally freaking go head to head just have an absolute banger. And AEW, they get a lot of criticism for the blood and gore and everything, but this time it was totally earned by the storyline. Like this was a straight up blood feud. So none of the violence felt like it was just like random or, you know, wouldn't like, you know, mocks, you know, bleeding like a stuck pig two minutes into a match on Rampage. It was a,
00:10:29
Speaker
Yeah, it's always Mox's fault. He doesn't have to bleed every single match. We get it. You have blood in your body. You don't have to show it all the time. Yeah, I feel like Mox and Cody Rhodes really set the bar on just superficial bleeding, dude, just for no reason.
00:10:45
Speaker
Yeah, so Marco, what's your thoughts on Amanda? Is it your match of the year, or you still got something to talk about? Nothing tops. I was actually, we talked a little bit on raw down, mainly because, obviously, it's running concurrent with Survivor Series. And low expectations, don't expect anything crazy like that to happen on Survivor Series. So I think if you go in thinking that they're going to try to top AW, you're going to be sadly mistaken. But I kind of joke that.
00:11:15
Speaker
You know, Hangman, as they say, as we say in the streets, Hangman is definitely invited to every single cookout for the rest of his life for drinking another man's blood in the middle of the ring. So it figured J-Bone got a kick out of that. But yeah, man, that was...
00:11:34
Speaker
Wow. Like I want to see them go at it again, even though, you know, you know, swerve one both times. I mean, just give us a third one, just a trilogy match because they're just, you know, they're great together, man. They, they, they hit something. Uh, AW definitely hit something. We're putting them two together and, you know, their storylines and how they kind of like, they just work very, very well with each other. And I'm hoping they, uh, continue that.
00:12:03
Speaker
Um, yeah, dude, like I said, I think swers totally believable with somebody that could end up taking that belt from MJF. Obviously that's, they have even begun to go down that path storyline wise, but I think he's definitely going to be an AW world champ within the next, uh, next year. So at this point, it feels like, you know, the, the all Atlantic or whatever call it out the international, um, and the TNT are almost beneath him, man. He's been elevated so much from this, this program with hangman.
00:12:27
Speaker
Let's get into the main event scene. What were you guys' thoughts on just the, we'll tie it all together, man. Just basically the angle and the storyline throughout the night of MJF getting hurt on the pre-show, making the miracle return before the main event. Yeah, the Bret Hart entrance. Yeah, and then going 30 minutes with Jay White in the main event. What'd you guys think of that overall production? There's one thing I'm gonna say about this.
00:12:56
Speaker
The best thing about it was all eyes were on the main event. Like there was no question that everybody was the most intrigued by the main event. Me and Seth were texting back and forth and that was all the intrigue for the night. So it did its job, man. It definitely drew up the interest in the main event on what was going to happen and what it was going to look like. Um, as far as the match goes,
00:13:18
Speaker
I mean, it's your typical guy working with a quote unquote injury match. Like there was nothing wrong with it at all. It's just a slower match. And, um, but I mean, dude, the fact that they went 30 minutes in a technically injured match is pretty incredible. And dude, I just don't know how you question MJF at this point. I really don't. I mean, I get it that a lot of people don't like him, but.
00:13:42
Speaker
dude has put that company on his back for a year and Still still raining. So yeah, I mean it's still not a believer dude Talented as hell man. Love the love the matches in ring work is amazing It's just the character stuff dude, like the I love I love the MJF matches dude the character stuff on on Wednesday nights though It's just hokey to me dude. I've seen it's anything I said before dude. I still think he's like I
00:14:07
Speaker
He's like an actor playing wrestler. Even like the press conference afterwards, where he was breaking down in tears about how much he loves wrestling. To me, that's the kind of shit that a guy that was playing a babyface wrestler on a TV show would do. Not an actual wrestler.
00:14:23
Speaker
Okay, so what do you like? What do you like better? Which one do you like better? Do you like over the top heel MJF or over the top baby face MJF? Because I think over the top heel MJF fucking sucks. I just, I just, I, yeah, he's definitely better as a baby face, which is crazy because he was a good heel, but it was just,
00:14:42
Speaker
He was such a heel to the point of being like unbelievable, right? Nobody would be that much of a straight up dickhead for no reason. It's been fun, man. There's definitely been some fun moments on the baby face run. I don't know, man. I feel like it's a little bit too much comedy for the main event scene for me, dude. I've just told you guys before, I'm not a huge fan of... I like comedy in the mid-card, not in the main event. That being said, you're right, dude. It was a great job building the entry with him getting hurt.
00:15:08
Speaker
as the dust was selling from that young bucks golden jets match we're texting back and forth like we have no idea how this is gonna play out I was just a little bit let down man I thought we were gonna get a bigger angle to it the match was totally fine I thought there was gonna be more of a swerve or something at the end where we get
00:15:25
Speaker
If not the reveal, maybe we get the latest development with who the devil is and stuff. I feel like they did such a good job with that build throughout the night and the crazy intrigue that it seemed like it kind of just went out with a whimper dude when the show just ended. I kept thinking something's going to happen before they throw up the copyright stuff, and it just didn't. So I walked away a little bit let down by the end of the show, but overall, I still really enjoyed full gear.
00:15:52
Speaker
the hangman sword match was worth the price of the mission by itself yeah i mean i'm curious to hear everyone else's thoughts on it but as far as the uh the devil thing is concerned i think they need to it's something that's intriguing people let's find out who it is and i think they they can't pull the trigger on it right away and they can't just like oversaturated either at the same time so i
00:16:17
Speaker
But we've, I was going to say that we've seen WWE do that before too, dude. Like remember the white rabbit situation and obviously it paid off when Bray returned, but there was a couple of weeks there where we were like, got like, come on, dude. Like what are we doing here? So if you just keep dragging it out, like people get bored. People's attention spans are super short. Like I mean, obviously I have no idea of what goes into production and how they come up with all this shit, but.
00:16:39
Speaker
I just feel like sometimes you just gotta pull the trigger when it's hot. My thing is, dude, I love a slow burn marker. You're 100% right. I agree with everything you're saying, but these AEW paper views are $50, dude. I feel like for 50 bucks, man, you need to give me something, dude. It can't just be the cliffhanger. Tune in Wednesday to see what happens. I totally get it from a business standpoint, but yeah, I just felt like
00:17:05
Speaker
It seems like they've typically done a good job on that, man. The AWs always had pretty good endings to their pay-per-views. I think, you know, the only time I really feel like let down by one was the, um, the, you know, the exploding barbed wire death match, that whole, that whole debacle. What about, uh, Chris Jericho off the top of the cage into the... That wasn't a pay-per-view. That was on regular TV when he ran into the park. Oh, yeah, really? I love that. That was on the pay-per-view. Nah, that was on the pay-per-view.
00:17:29
Speaker
Yeah, but I mean, I feel like they've done a good job with like, you know, the cliffhanger endings are a big surprise or return. It needs to close out the pay-per-views. And I just feel like for 50 bucks, you know, give us something, dude. You know, even even just having like, I think I would have been happy if they just would have done like the Bray Wyatt style, like screen flash of the devil face, like as the show went off the air. I think that would have been it would have been something, you know.
00:17:51
Speaker
I told you, we got nothing. I told you, dude, they didn't want to bury it the week before Survivor Series. AEW is the only company with a pay per view in December. Like they know what they're doing. They're going to debut in December. That's where it'll happen. I think I just I don't think they want to do it the week before Survivor Series.
00:18:09
Speaker
Paper view is called World's End. It's going to be in New York, MJF's home turf. Yeah, it makes sense. And the other thing, dude, that I was thinking, I think possibly even more than Survivor Series, the next episode of Dynamite is going to be the night before Thanksgiving. You know it's going to be abysmal ratings, dude. People are going to have family over. They're going to be traveling. They're going to be doing Thanksgiving prep. There's not going to be a ton of attention on that show Wednesday night. So yeah, I don't think you want to smoke your red hot angle going into a show that you know is kind of a lame dog. Yeah, it's the one you can watch. That makes sense, too.
00:18:38
Speaker
But overall, I give Full Gear two thumbs up, man. I felt like despite being let down by the Indian, I thought it was a really good show and a fun way to spend Saturday night. How about you, Shane? Yeah, same. Like I said, I was in and out because we had grandparents here and, you know, all the kids and stuff. But yeah, what I saw of Full Gear was of a sports entertained. Jordan, Marco.
00:18:59
Speaker
Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot. I give it two thumbs up as well. Um, I don't think this was their, their strongest showing of a pay-per-view, but having that hangman and swerve match on it. I mean, and I, and like I said, I liked everything that built up to the main event and I enjoyed the main event. So yeah, it's just.
00:19:17
Speaker
Overall, I think this was one of their lower quality shows overall, but when you have the match of the year on it, it did. I mean, pretty hard to overlook that match into a debuts credit. They have said an extremely high bar with their pay per views, man, regardless of what you think on their week to week TV, their pay per views almost always said they're they're very much like the black and gold NXT takeovers, man, where like even a mid one is going to be better than just about any other wrestling show. I think they're doing like
00:19:45
Speaker
Monthly paper views is definitely Gonna gonna test their their quality of paper views going forward judging off of this one. So even though it was really good, but You know, like yeah, we get some streaming action dude. It's right there with time They're already in bed with time Warner dude get this on max dude Even if I got to pay like extra five bucks more a month for max sports or something dude I don't know if people are gonna drop 50 bucks every single month for these man. I
00:20:13
Speaker
We can't bear it either dude. Julia Hart became the youngest AWW champ on Saturday night too. That was dude. She's so she is so improved man. Like watching her wrestle now as opposed to a year ago is night and day. You can definitely tell she worked on it a lot. So that was that was really cool. 22. Yeah.
00:20:33
Speaker
Yeah. Just think about how far she's come from just being basically like the, the, like the Carmela roll for the varsity blondes. Yep. All right. Any more thoughts on full gear before we roll into survivor series? No.
00:20:48
Speaker
All right. What did you guys think of the Survivor Series poster, man? I was just about to ask the question. The first thing I thought was, holy shit, the stalker Barry Windham is back, dude. I was thinking it's Stardust and Camo. Oh, yeah. That is fucking terrible, dude. That is absolute fucking awful. It looks terrible. I mean. It's so Cody. It's so Cody. It is so obnoxious and patriotic and over the top and just on brand. It just like. Can't wait for that figure to come out. That'd be awesome.
00:21:19
Speaker
To the match for the camo pan I want I want the whole team camo painted up dude I do I do kind of love it man for for war games, but uh, but yeah, the posters just it's hilarious Yeah, it's just it's just such a bad. I like I don't know like I feel like the camo print could have just been better like he looks like With Campbell face paint
00:21:39
Speaker
So they did it. It's a throwback to the 90s man, but I think it was steam squadron was the name. They did it. I think the big difference was the paint they were using back then. It wasn't like as thick, dude. So like it was there. It was camo, but it wasn't like, yeah, like war washes. Yeah. It looks a little bit washed in, dude. Whereas this looks like, you know, costume paint. Yeah. It looks like he's going to be in like a marble movie or something.
00:21:59
Speaker
Did you? You can't have that be the poster and them not dust off the old misfits and action gear for this match this weekend. I love it, dude. You see, he gets to wear GI Bros gear. It's going to be great. Like, oh, that'd be so that'd be so great, dude. That'd be awesome.
00:22:18
Speaker
Somebody our good friends over at the three points of articulation podcast had a funny post on Instagram today It was showing the team in the ring last night with Seth like all you know flamboyant as hell so looking like the Simone gangster had Cody in his suit and And Sammy Zane just looking like you know, it was like when I put my music on shuffle It's so true
00:22:43
Speaker
All right, so we're going to run down the match card and give quick predictions. It's pretty, pretty other than, you know, obviously having two war games matches. It's pretty tight little card we've got so far. We only got five matches. Biggest those war games matches between entrances, the mass replays and cleanup. That's like an hour piece. Yeah.
00:23:00
Speaker
All right. So we're going to start it with Gunther versus the Miz for the Intercontinental Championship. Dude, I want to see Gunther beat him in like less than a minute. I think that's a possibility. I want to see straight up destruction, dude. I want Gunther to just be built up to basically be like the new Brock Lesnar, heading into whoever he's going to fight at WrestleMania this year, which Brock actually would be pretty dang cool.
00:23:25
Speaker
But yeah, I I want to see miss get I'd never liked the Miz did go through fucking awesome And I want to see miss just get his ass whooped. Yeah, I think there's a possibility for a semi squash match here again, because like the other matches are going to be so long that I feel like One of these matches at least got to be a quickie Thoughts Jordan, what do you think go through miss? Oh
00:23:48
Speaker
Yeah, Gunther is going to win this match. Can I just say something about this card? This is an absolute disgrace to a Survivor Series pay-per-view. This is absolutely disgusting that they're running a five match show and three of the matches are singles matches like
00:24:02
Speaker
Dude, just stop calling it survivor series
Survivor Series Critiques & Speculations
00:24:05
Speaker
at this point. This is disgraceful. It's called war games, man. This is disgusting. And the three singles matches don't even matter, dude. They're absolutely not. And Rhea Ripley, Zoey Stark, and Carlito and Santos. That's come out of the way. And I mean, obviously I got put out of the picks league, but I could, like these singles matches, I feel like I could just like peg these like, you know, straight up, dude.
00:24:22
Speaker
It's, I just, I don't know why we can't get, like why tie up Seth in this? Like let's, obviously, you know, if Roman's off the table, have Seth, just give him a one off defense. You know, Seth could go 20 minutes with anybody and it'll be a bad-ass match. There's no reason to put Seth in freaking war games. Yeah. This is very disheartening. It is. I mean, I'm sure the war games matches will be fun. I'm sure there'll be some awesome spots, but yeah, I agree with you. I hate when it's just like, you know, this just,
00:24:53
Speaker
hodgepodge I'd rather it just be at least at least have some thread of like storytelling you know I think if we had five or six just four on four elimination matches like the old days how great that would be and it ain't like the roster isn't deep enough either is the shitty part like they have plenty of a roster to make that happen
00:25:10
Speaker
Yeah, this fucking sucks, man. I hate war games now, dude. Why do you think they went away from that format? I mean, they went away from that format in 1995. I know, but I think that's the glory days. When people think of Survivor Series, those are the glory days of Survivor Series. Well, if you listen to Bruce Prichard, Vince McMahon has never liked multi-man matches because you're paying, basically, they're still taking up whatever, 25 minutes in the ring, but you're paying four guys to do it instead of two guys.
00:25:40
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's probably part of it. I don't know. I think honestly, I think Vince just kind of soured on it. And then it just never really came back because dude, I've never heard any fans be like, man, I hated the elimination matches. Like those were always so much freaking fun. Yeah.
00:25:54
Speaker
Yeah. Cause they were throwaway matches, but they actually felt like they meant something somehow. I just, these all feel like throwaway matches to me. Like, does ever, does anyone really think this judgment day feud ends on Saturday? Cause I don't know. It's going to keep going. No way. Like this was the burn off. I'd be fine with it, but it's not like it's just, they're, they're bringing Randy Orton back in this fucking war games match, dude. Like, you know, he, this guy's been gone since may of last year and.
00:26:23
Speaker
He's coming back for fucking war games. And Jey Uso is the one that put him out. I know. And he's going to team with Jey Uso. Yeah, exactly. He's teamed with Jey Uso. Drew McIntyre is against Jey Uso, too. Yeah, he's got a lot of bad blood. Randy Orton needs to drop Jey Uso with an RKO at some point in the match just out of nowhere, just to even the scales, dude. I think that would be totally acceptable. It would make sense, man.
00:26:45
Speaker
like hit him with RKO at some point in the match. I guess we, you know, we could probably just pivot, dude. I don't think we really need to go match by match on this. We can kind of just continue to heal off on the survivor shoots card. I'll bring up another point I got, dude. Why do we have to have a men's and women's war games match? Just pick one each year, dude. Like I get it. Like one, dude, nobody needs two war games matches anyways, man. War games is fucking exhausting, dude, which, you know, we already know, dude, like Jordan said it, you know, he hates war games.
00:27:12
Speaker
I'm kind of with indeed that the thought of war games is always so much better than the actual execution. Yeah. No, here's the biggest problem, too, is NXT did it so well. And those feuds always meant something, dude, just throwing these matches together now, like, yeah, like really, I'm supposed to get excited for this. Randy, like she just said, Randy Orton's coming back in a match I could give two shits about. That's sad, man. Like,
00:27:37
Speaker
It is sad, dude. I just kept thinking, you know, he was going to just archives RKO someone out of nowhere. And like, that would be his fucking return, dude. No, you know, Cody has to give him the grand fucking entrance, which was all right. Like, I didn't hate the way that you know that. But you know why they did it, right? Lame. Well, they did what Randy Orton?
00:28:00
Speaker
because they want to try their they didn't want to leave it to be a mystery because then they're afraid people would I mean there I mean let's be real they're still gonna hijack the show dude I mean that's just what Chicago does you know I mean
00:28:17
Speaker
Do you guys think it's any chance seeing punk comes out? No, I think they still they still have that like weird storyline with Shinsuke Nakamura and him calling somebody out that we have no clue who he's calling out to return so
00:28:32
Speaker
Please know I I I do not care at all to see CM Punk wrestling again I would just like this. Yeah, I would enjoy just seeing the the collective meltdown of like the internet wrestling Yeah, he doesn't really anywhere like
00:28:50
Speaker
you'd have to do some sort of angle on the show. Like one, yeah, it could be the, the Shinsuke thing. Like, you know, there's been, there's been rumors that they were going to add a Shinsuke Nakamura open challenge. So maybe Shinsuke, you know, storms the ring and demands a match.
00:29:06
Speaker
Or if not, you'd have to do some sort of angle and war games like, you know, one of the baby faces mysteriously gets taken out backstage and then see him. You could do set like, you know, at some point in the night sets just laid out backstage and they got to find a mystery opponent and then see him punk hits man. He's probably not showing up though. Cause CM Punk versus Seth would definitely be the match for WrestleMania if he does come back.
00:29:28
Speaker
I know I just I just feel like you know you can't keep doing the same thing and expect different results dude I mean he is who he is whether we like it or whether we don't like I'm all for people being who they are and he's a fucking dickhead dude and so like if I mean he's not going to change so I don't know why anyone would want to deal with him at this point but
00:29:49
Speaker
Yeah, I'll go a step further. If CM Punk debuts at Survivor Series, I'm already calling for them to just act Survivor Series all together if that's how we're gonna end it. Fuck that. I'm already kind of pissed that this show's even happening to be completely honest with you. Like it's just fucking disgusting. Last time they did Survivor Series in Chicago was the last really good one.
00:30:11
Speaker
thank god I happened to go to that one the brand supremacy one was at least cool at least it brought something to the table granted was that the one when the next tea was there too right yeah nxt was stacked at that show at least at least all those people had a common you know
00:30:27
Speaker
a theme, you know, like they were raw smack down or NXT, whereas like this is just like, it's just always feels so forced with the war game stuff dude like when it when it comes up organically is cool like last year it worked out right because the bloodline were, you know, they had a genuine feud and they were, they had Kevin Owens teaming up with the brawling brutes and drew like that made sense but now we got the judgment day.
00:30:49
Speaker
going up against this just hodgepodge of baby faces, which would be fine for a Survivor Series match, right? This would be totally acceptable as a Survivor Series elimination match, but War Games is supposed to be like blood feud level stuff, man. And this is just like, it's the kin to when Hell in the Cell was its own pay-per-view, right? It's like, oh, it's Hell in the Cell month, we gotta generate a couple Hell in the Cell matches all of a sudden. Yeah, why can't they just call it Survivor Series? That's what I'm saying. They could just call this a Survivor Series match and just save us all the trouble of the bullshit shenanigans that
00:31:19
Speaker
Like this man like they run they have to run down a list of like 12 rules for you to know What the fuck's gonna happen in the match? You know what I mean? Like you're already lost, you know, I look like the lady doing the fucking math problem You just alternate it every year dude or every couple years do you do war games? Some years you're gonna get war games at Survivor Series Some years you just get the traditional Survivor Series elimination match exactly I think if it I think if it calls for it like you said if it's legit is if they just happen to freakin
00:31:46
Speaker
have a situation where it's blood feud worthy, then yeah, go for it. But I think they just like merged it all together where it's muddy now and it doesn't really make sense. What they were going to do is have the men's war games match and then the women were going to do like a traditional survivor series match. That's what it looked like. Yeah, that would have been cool, too. I mean, it's only for women going against each other. So it's not even the traditional five on five for the war games. So it doesn't even make sense of them having a war games match with the women.
00:32:16
Speaker
Cause you don't have five members on each team. It's only four. So it's like a four and four tag. Yeah. This was one of the big four pay per views at one point. And there's five matches and not one survivor series match on a fucking pay per view called survivor series. Like dude, what are we doing? As much fucking credit as you guys want to give Triple H and the rest of WWE, this is
00:32:38
Speaker
dog shit, dude. This is a top four pay-per-view and it's absolute a throwaway pay-per-view. That's embarrassing. WarGames has always been his thing too, dude. He's got a big fetish for the 80s NWA stuff, so he wanted to make it happen. That's literally the first year he was in charge of main roster. He brought it up from NXT. And that's fine. It just doesn't fucking work, dude. It does not work, man, on a year-to-year basis.
00:33:02
Speaker
And listen, I'm not saying this is not going to be a good show. I'm sure it will be. I'm sure the matches will be fine. I have no faith in any of the three singles matches. I'll be honest with you. I think those are all dog shit matches and reas in one of them. So you know how much that pains me to say that.
00:33:16
Speaker
I just, outside of the two war games matches, like where is the interest level in this show? And to be honest with you, I have no interest in either one of those matches either. So like going into this, I'm not about a two for interest level. Like I said, I'm sure it'll deliver, but there's no way this should be a throwaway pay-per-view, dude. It's embarrassing. It's Thanksgiving weekend. This is supposed to be a fun show and they've completely just ruined it.
00:33:45
Speaker
You know what would be really cool is if they'd put like a human cannon on top of the Allstate arena and launch
00:34:00
Speaker
Okay, I do not wish bodily harm on see I didn't say I just never He could be like Rey Mysterio and just land on another platform below the side of the building, you know And I didn't say there wouldn't be a net to catch him now whether or not the net was hooked up properly is a different story
00:34:19
Speaker
Sean Ross sat he's pretty plugged in he's been adamant that it's not happening I tend to think it's not either dude, but I was definitely is pretty good about if they do got something cooking like this They'll they'll kind of ease off the hints the last couple weeks out. They really want to make a big surprise So I don't know I wouldn't I put it at like a 2% chance we see him Think you know, who do you think Shinsuke Nakamura is trying to call out? Oh
00:34:47
Speaker
I don't know. Who's he trying to conjure up? It has to be someone from the outside, right? That's not like like it's gonna it's not gonna be like Seamus or anything like that, right? That's like injured cuz that's kind of stupid. That's like a dumb thing. That that really gets I Feel like it was maybe something they've been toying with just on the off chance that the punk thing ends up happening man, but it sounds like I
00:35:11
Speaker
It sounds like it's physical. I could be totally wrong. Shinsuke and CM Punk wouldn't make sense for his first feud if you're not going to throw him straight into the main event scene. Shinsuke did hit the GTS, and they called it the GTS on the broadcast. Gross. I don't know, man. It would be interesting just to see all the reactions, but dude's probably going to get hurt, man. I don't think he can make it to three matches without getting injured. I'm pretty frail.
00:35:38
Speaker
I know that's the other thing like even if he wasn't a dickhead like you just you've seen that an AEW he absolutely could not stay healthy so like it's just the juice is just not worth the squeeze dude I really hate that we're wasting time on even talking about this and I just pray that it doesn't because dude I hated it at the end of the AEW run I'm gonna hate it even more in WWE it's just
00:36:05
Speaker
Oh, just not worth all the trouble. It's not worth all the trouble and noise that goes comes along with them whatsoever. There's just no need for it. And WWE doesn't need anything like this right now. Like, I don't know. I just don't get it, man. All right. Anybody got anything else they want to shovel on top of Survivor Series before we take the beverage break? You mean Survivor Series? Yeah, I think we're good.
00:36:45
Speaker
All right, the beverage break is where we tell you guys what we are sipping on as we pod. Sheena, I'll let you kick it off. So I was going to spike my coffee tonight, but I ended up just not for some reason, but I had coffee, a little bit of date syrup, and a little bit of raw cream.
00:37:00
Speaker
Raw cream. Raw cream. Straight from the teat. Cows. A cow teat that is not my own teat. What the hell? Yikes. Just saying. Nobody was wondering that. All right. Thanks, Jean. I'm just saying. You never know. People are weird.
00:37:15
Speaker
I'll get us back on track. I'm drinking a local brew from here in Memphis, Ghost River Brewing.
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00:37:20
Speaker
It's Aquamane. It is IPA inspired by Steven Adams of the Grizzlies, all New Zealand hops. Very, very tasty. And if you ever downtown on Beale Street, Ghost River Brewing is definitely the spot to go. You gotta say it like DJ. Aquamane. I'm gonna say, no, that's the same mane as you do it. He's got a little rasp in his voice, Aquamane. No?
00:37:43
Speaker
Jordan, what are you drinking? Oh my God. I'm drinking a Busch Light Peach. Just kind of keep it a low key because the next five days are going to be a shit show. Why are the next five days going to be a shit show? I love how Jordan just plans his whole weekend to be in a shit show. Bro, it's drinking season. He's already marked the calendar.
00:38:02
Speaker
Dude, it's drinking season. Like what else is there to do this weekend besides drink and eat five days of drinking tomorrow's tomorrow's a half day of work going to start drinking early Thursday drinking all day Friday drinking all day Saturday and Sunday football days drinking all day. Like what more explanation do you want from me, Seth?
00:38:22
Speaker
But why does it have to be a shit show? Is it not enjoyable when you're drinking all day? I'm just going to get blackout drunk at least two of those days, guaranteed. It's just like a, it's almost like a Thanksgiving challenge for me to see if I can make it back to work on the following Monday. Wow. Wow. We do not endorse, we endorse responsible use here. We're going to get Jordan, we're going to get Jordan some help. Yeah. Oh, are you, is Seth going to come up here and help me?
00:38:49
Speaker
I'll send remote. So what's better health is your therapist just text you or whatever. Yeah, we're gonna send this clip to be sure to remind Seth of that while he's drunk texting me while I'm also drunk. So we'll keep some receipts for everyone.
00:39:06
Speaker
So I like to get a heavy buzz going. I stopped shorter just straight up blackout though. Yeah, I don't think I've seen Seth just straight up pass out since like 2016. Sounds like a quitter to me. Nothing worse than a quitter. I think 2016 was the last time Sheena had a bad one too. There was a night in 2016 where me and some of the neighbors had to literally carry Sheena back to our house.
00:39:29
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if they get the audience can even imagine that I'm pretty like mango margaritas or something Yeah, I'm pretty straight straight edge nowadays. But uh, yeah, that was a day
00:39:40
Speaker
Remember as soon as I got through the door, she was a pupa dude. That's the dangerous thing about Sheena drinking a lot dude. She's a fucking cute dog on the back of a golf cart like lightweight Yeah, dude, Sheena cannot hold hers down dude. I rarely fucking puke I think I've probably drank to the like I most time if I ever have like puke while drinking It's just been like something else has upset my stomach while I've been drinking dude. I don't know I've never had like the
00:40:05
Speaker
I've never been the puking guy when it comes to drinking, dude, but yeah, Sheena will blow chokes on you. Well, dude, even SummerSlam, remember SummerSlam weekend? We were drinking, but we weren't taking shots or any of that kind of stuff. We were just steady drinking. We went to that bar, met up with our Foley fam.
00:40:22
Speaker
Wild horse saloon. And I don't even think, I may have had one beer at the stadium. Like I think you guys bought around the beers at the stadium and then, um, and that was it. And the next day, like everybody else is like still freaking just like, you know, hanging out, like, you know, doing their thing. I have to like go outside and like puke outside the Airbnb. Like I was totally sober, but it was just like my freaking, like alcohol does just not mix with my system very well. So I was going to say, it's kind of hard to keep drinking beer when you're asleep before the hot dogs got back. But either way,
00:40:53
Speaker
Hey, listen, in my defense, that show was, it was, it was a long show. That was the start of the show. The sun was still out and you were asleep. I think it was, if you want to blame a show was the GCW show and I didn't need to like two 30 the night before. But who freaking hung all night at the GCW show? I'm normally like everybody, everybody that was at the show did.
00:41:15
Speaker
Except you're the only one that couldn't make it through the pre-show summer slam the next day. I know, but do I not get any props for being up till 2 AM, freaking rocking at a wrestling show? I feel like that's for the Sheena in 2022, that's a pretty freaking... I mean, if you're going to go to sleep in the front row of a GCW show, you're basically putting your life in God's hands. That is true.
00:41:32
Speaker
that's true i feel like i'm pretty very few things that i didn't get me scared you but i would not like you got to keep your head on a swivel at one of those shows especially if you're ringside i mean i mean that was a fun show i had a lot of fun also it was pretty hard to fall asleep the gcw show considering all of our heart rates were so like 120 after the near-death experience with sheena that day
00:41:52
Speaker
Yeah, that was. Oh, yeah, I forgot. You were pulling out in front of an SUV going 70 miles an hour. I couldn't see it. It was black. I didn't see that 70 miles. And instead of just continuing to accelerate, she decided to try to swerve into a fucking bill.
00:42:07
Speaker
Yeah, that was and then the guy right next to us gets his arm slashed open at GCW. That was a low-key violent ass weekend. Yeah All right, Marco, what are you taking me sipping on a What I call a a Terra Mona sunrise. So basically Terra Terra Mona tequila. Okay, basically it's a killer sunrise with Terra Mona said so Nice nice All right. Let's get into some figure talk
00:42:39
Speaker
Little throwback for you guys for Thanksgiving week, man. Hit me old school. Here comes the money for our figure segment. I want to remind you guys, this segment is brought to you by Ringside Collectibles. Use code Chick Foley to save 10%. We'll start off with weekly purchases, man. Did anybody add anything cool to their collection in the last couple of weeks? I got the Legends Warrior in Bulldog yesterday at Target by my house. It's really nice. It's really it. Get the Legends Warrior and another legend.
00:43:09
Speaker
CM Punk, the Supreme figure. Wow. Finally got one. Actually got one anyway. I know it's been like a very hard find, but other than that, waiting for the, um, the AW four pack that Amazon exclusive. I think I just got a word it's coming in this week. So
00:43:30
Speaker
Yeah, somebody somebody in the Foley fam ordered a cm punk supreme and ended up with a Cody supreme. Do they open the package? That's true. Yeah, I mean not not wrong, but yeah, I can understand the disappointment though. I uh I got the sean spears aw chase and I got the bunny so aw chases that's kind of been the most exciting things that i've gotten uh
00:43:52
Speaker
last last couple weeks yeah it's been quiet here too I think and I think I'm all caught up on hunting also there's like nothing I'm even really going out for I'm passing on the CM Punk supreme so yeah been a little bit low key on the figure front for me but we do got some news since the last time we recorded we had ringside fest
00:44:08
Speaker
So we'll go through some of the big reveals and some other news from that. So first off, we saw the updated Cody Ultimate Edition. This is gonna be an Ultimate Edition 21. It's Cody and that awesome look from WrestleMania last year when he got his ass kicked by Roman, the blue pants, and it's actually like a plastic jacket this time. It's not the little vinyl thing that came with the Mattel Creations. Yeah, I think it looks great. We need to see the back of it. It needs to have those wings. Am I tripping? Didn't he have wings on the back of his jacket from WrestleMania?
00:44:38
Speaker
Yeah, he definitely did. I think you might be right. Yeah, I think he did. Hopefully they got the wings on there too. Do you guys think it would be better if it included that rubber chicken that somebody threw in the ring right after he got pinned? No. I mean, that would be mage. No.
00:44:54
Speaker
It should come with a video clip of Seth and I celebrating after Roman got the pin, dude. You should be able to scan a QR code and go to that moment in our lives whenever. That's actually not a bad idea, dude. If figures that were from a specific match, if they put a little QR code on the back and you can watch a little 45-second
00:45:13
Speaker
video from the From it especially for like MOC collectors like think about how cool that would be you know Like you know going through looking at your collection and you could scan something to see a quick clip from what the yeah figures from You're welcome. You're welcome for that idea myself. What do you think Jordan your MOC man? Is that is that a winner or no? I'm never gonna scan a QR code on a box. Let's be honest here. That's that's exactly what they want you to do. I
00:45:36
Speaker
I sound like Sheena. They're going to start siphoning pennies out of my account every day, like in office space. But there are a lot of people that really buy into the QR code convenience. Especially if you have to log into something like a streaming site. It does make it pretty easy. It's so convenient.
00:45:59
Speaker
Before you get into the other things, you know, they're they are revealed that they're doing some more reveals tomorrow 1122 Yeah, not right side but Mattel WWE elite squad Just like the standard monthly reveal soon. Maybe some new figures are coming. But yeah
00:46:18
Speaker
Yeah, I think we're supposed to get the actual release date for the the piper and george the animal steel coliseum collection there also So I think the highlight for most of us from ringside fest this year was the ultimate edition two pack of the outsiders Yeah Yeah, that looks awesome Yeah, I have I don't think I have any critiques on this pack, man I think these look like nash with the red vest then that elite 16 nash was Damned her a decade ago at this point man. So these guys were much needed
00:46:48
Speaker
The headstands are absolutely perfect. Like how the hell do they get these so right? And then you look at Brett Hart's head scan and it looks like a tweeter made it hard. I just think Mattel hates somebody. Mattel hates Brett. Yeah. Straight up. That's the only. Mattel hates Brett Hart. You know who it is. The only explanation. The only guy that ever blocked Sheena. Fucking sweaty bill.
00:47:10
Speaker
a lot.
00:47:24
Speaker
He definitely is a hogan. That's the most hogan looks like. Like, yeah, it's accurate. Yeah. That's the absolute most realistic story that I've heard. So you may be on with the Jordan. Yeah, they keep fucking bread and they they they're in on it because they do it in different ways. Like one figure will have a gigantic forehead like that new basic they show. He looks like Thanos do the way his fucking jawbone is. They literally face scan someone's grandma. Yeah. And then put it on, you know, mixed it with Bret Hart and A.I. and just threw it together.
00:47:53
Speaker
The only Brett scan that's ever looked good is the old man Brett Steve the two the two old man Brett figures They didn't look like him. All there are some have been garbage Yeah, and they eff his hair up every time dude He's always just got these little tiny wispies and in his face and they just make it like this giant turd. Looks like Razor Ramon
00:48:11
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. It looks like Razor Ramones. But even Razor Ramones, look how fine his looks. You know what I mean? They've got it super small and curly. I can't wait to see the box right on these, man. I'm sure they're going to kill it. So do you have the ringside feed pulled up right now?
00:48:26
Speaker
I don't but I can pull it up and look at the Dominic Mysterio and tell me the boots don't look fucking gigantic Dude, it looks like he's wearing like the the mock boots or whatever they're called Yeah, and when you're done check here check the check the chick Foley group chat because uh This is he looks Brett Hart looks like the guy that plays maniac cop. That's what they that's what his figure looks like So if you open it up, you'll see exactly
00:49:01
Speaker
Yeah, it looks like they tried to like go super detailed and put the actual like kick back the kick pads on top of like the foot part on his boots And yeah, it looks like yeah, it looks like he's wearing fucking oh See exactly where they got the Bret Hart head scan from
00:49:27
Speaker
Some cool new basics man, they how about this updated Lex Luger we're getting I like it So I was hoping for an ultimate edition legs, but I'll take this Hey, Lex All right, all white rear Ripley Jordan New York got like three of these on pre-order Obviously, yeah
00:49:51
Speaker
What do you guys thoughts on the face as a Foley pack man? I'm kind of in love with it. I think it looks great. I love it I can't imagine taking this out of the box. What a disgrace
00:50:00
Speaker
I kind of feel like we need to get one of these and keep it MOC and get it signed by all three like in some nice paint pen just to match the the jack. Yeah, I got our jack set. We got the Jack's the legendary Jack's faces fully box set and it's yeah we I got that we didn't actually get it signed I found it signed for Sheena for Christmas I think 2015.
00:50:22
Speaker
And this is back in the day before people were quite savvy. So it's just signed in like Sharpie is kind of faded. So I think it'd be dope to for like a companion piece to get this signed in like some really nice paint. I love that they're individually boxed to like every figure is individually boxed inside. So if you got them signed, at least that way the the paint would never wear off to you put it inside the shell.
00:50:42
Speaker
Well, you think there's a window over the they're individually boxed. I know. That's what I'm saying. There's a window over the top, it looks like. I'm saying is there a window over the three pack, though? You know what I mean? Like, is it? It looks like there's a window on the outside, too. It's not just a sleeve. It's an actual box on the outside.
00:51:01
Speaker
Yeah, this this box is sick dude, like this looks like a really nice it's gonna be the best dude love figure that we've ever gotten Really cool cactus jack from the WCW days and then obviously mankind now I did I was under the impression that mankind was gonna be a cloth a Cloth shirt that looks like the same rubber shirt we had from the Amazon exclusive, right? I think that's just molding the other one looked like that too. I'm looking at the way it's setting dude Yeah, I mean it kind of looks
00:51:31
Speaker
I think I don't think it's cloth. I think it's I think it's right. Either way, it's still really cool. It'll be a solid upgrade, man. It looks like it's got some some extra detailing stuff from the old Amazon figure. Yeah, this is a must add for sure. All right, L.A. Knight in his first elite, we got Seth coming with the new belt. I thought that Pete Dunfigure looked awesome, dude, with like the British Bulldog style style gear, man. I thought that looked incredible. And he comes with a freaking cricket bat. Peter Doon.
00:52:01
Speaker
Where are you guys at on the nitro ring, dude? I think it's a hard pass for me, man. I threw an NWO t-shirt on that Ruthless Aggression Eric Bischoff that dropped earlier this year. And I think that's totally fine, dude. I don't think I'm dropping whatever it is, 135 bucks, just to get this old tradition easy. It does look great, man. But I definitely don't need another ring. So I think I'm kind of out on this one, man. If it was individual, I would definitely get the Eric Bischoff ultimate. But yeah, with the ring, that's a no-go for me.
00:52:31
Speaker
I have to have it because I have to have all the ultimate additions. So that ring will be up in the group probably for $40 because I just want to get rid of it. This is just posting the group, man. Maybe there's somebody like how we did with the candy. Maybe there's somebody out there that just just wants the ring. Yeah. It's possible to have the audit, but possible. Yeah. And you see Jordan, it's got the same just straight up cardboard box like you can figured it also.
00:52:58
Speaker
Yep, real thrilled about that too. Hopefully we keep doing these. We saw MOC picks of the DX pack. My own, my critique on this, I feel, I get why they had to have Triple H. I feel like they should have had X-Pac instead of Triple H though. Cause we already got a Triple H retro from this era. You know what I mean? I feel like it would have been way, we got X-Pac. Triple H looks like great loaf. He does. Yeah, he kind of does.
00:53:27
Speaker
I think maybe they didn't do it because they knew they had to have the new age out lost together and they didn't want to put XPOC in China in the same box. Didn't want to have them spend the night in China. Yeah. Through the back door of China or whatever. That could have been a little bit awkward. Hey, there's a QR card code on the back. Oh boy. Yeah, that's the perfect place for that.
00:53:52
Speaker
What do you guys think of, uh, Roman and Oscar ultimate edition? The Oscar is pretty sick. The Oscar is absolutely killer. Roman, Roman might be weird with the red boots. Yeah, the Romans fine, but that Oscar is killer. That, that Oscar is one of the best figures.
00:54:08
Speaker
Yeah, early candidate for 2024 figure of the year, man. We know Bill's got his Japanese fetish too, but still the detail on this is insane, man. I mean, it looks like it's true, dude. Look at every Japanese wrestler that's gotten an elite, dude. The detailing is always off the freaking charts, man. It's obvious, man.
00:54:30
Speaker
Yeah, this thing looks great. The actual joints and stuff look pretty good too. I'm not a huge fan of the Ultimate Edition Articulation model, but this one looks really good. Even if it was just a regular Elite, with that gear and that face paint, it looks awesome, man. So yeah, just a crazy nice figure, dude. It's insane that it's actually gonna cost the same as that Roman that's basically a re-release with different colored boots and a torso. Yep. Shane, anything to add? No, that figure looks great.
00:55:03
Speaker
All right, and that is it for figure news. We will get into random merch of the week.
00:55:24
Speaker
Alright random merch of the week is where we find something from Deep on the eBay search to bring to you guys. Now this is something that I did not know even existed until sharing it with you guys in the group chat. Apparently they were going to make some, LJN was going to make some toys based on
00:55:41
Speaker
the Rockin' Wrestling cartoon back in the 80s. And the prototype of Hulk Hogan's Cadillac style car from that show is available on eBay right now for the low, low price of $12,000 with free shipping or best offer. That's bad. Did you guys have any recollection or know that this thing existed? Did not know this. It was for the Bendys, right? That they had, or the Bendoms? Yeah, it was made along with the Bendys line. I was looking at the Compare similar items, and they actually have the other
00:56:10
Speaker
Vehicles as well. Yeah, they had yeah, they have the other motorcycles and stuff, right? It's a King Kong Bundy's motorcycle and a junkyard dogs Motorcycle as well to oh and in a ruddy paperhead So he's gonna have a motorcycle and a hot rod, which is pretty cool But they're all around the same place But this is crazy cuz if you just saw like if you just saw this in a thrift store somewhere You would never know like I would never be like, oh man, that's just like a freakin Hulk Hogan Cadillac, you know
00:56:41
Speaker
I wanna know who this guy is, man. His whole, everything he has listed is all like prototypes and test shots and stuff, man. Sweaty Bill.
00:56:56
Speaker
He's got the prototype for the LJN articulated iron cheek on here for $10,000 man. Cheeky baby. He has a Bob Baffin prototype. Did you guys ever remember watching rock and wrestling? Like I remember being a thing, but I'm not for sure I ever even actually watched an episode of it as a kid. Nope. I did not. Can't say I have.
00:57:17
Speaker
Yeah, I think it was slightly before our time because I want to say it was like 85 and 86 so we all would have been you know Like one or two years old and this thing was on but and it never for whatever reason it never really lived on in like syndication or like reruns or anything Wonder why see what the extra rent on so it ran from October It looks like it wasn't much of a hit dude. It looks like it ran from October 1986 until June of 1987 only 26 episodes
00:57:43
Speaker
Hmm. What happened? Was Hogan on it? All right. Shane, do we got any listener mail? Oh yeah. All right. First few questions come in from our man, Tony Barker. He says, what's the most creative way you've ever cooked a Turkey for Thanksgiving?
00:58:11
Speaker
Um, I don't know that I've ever gotten like super creative. We actually were looking, cause we're doing, um, we're doing Turkey legs this year. We're not going to do a whole bird. We're just going to do Turkey legs since it's just the four of us. And we were looking up ways to, you know, different ways to cook it and everything. And I saw this guy, he butterflied it and then he roasted it and then he like filled it with like this crab, um, filling and then roasted it again.
00:58:34
Speaker
And it actually looked pretty freaking delicious. We're not going to do that, but because it's Thanksgiving, you can't get too wild on Thanksgiving. Maybe for Christmas. Maybe for Christmas. We got a few extra that we're going to, you know, maybe we'll, we'll get a little more creative and wild with that. But typically in the past for like 10 straight years, we did Popeye's Cage and Turkey. Like it was, you know, it was like one of those novel experiences where you got to go get the Popeye's Turkey. Now you got to take on a loan for a Popeye's Turkey.
00:59:01
Speaker
Exactly. That was once. Yeah. Once it hit like the, you know, like the $75, $80 mark, we were like, all right. It's a hundred. Yeah. So we've been out of the Popeyes game for a couple of years. Right. Like, uh, yeah, we stopped, I think like two years ago. Yeah. Two years ago. Um, yeah. And inflation's really taken over since then. So I did not know that the Popeyes Turkey was a hundred bucks. It's really freaking good. It's super easy because it is already pre-fried and you're basically just reheating it. So, you know, you add a little bit of Cajun butter.
00:59:30
Speaker
reheat that some bitch and it is so good. But Marco Jordan, have either of you done anything creative for Thanksgiving? Are you guys pretty traditional, pretty traditional, very, very vanilla, as they say, nothing too crazy. I mean, I've deep fried a turkey. I've smoked a turkey. I've brined a turkey for three days. I've cooked three day brine. Like, yeah, I've done the gauntlet of turkey cooking, but
00:59:57
Speaker
I don't know. It's still fucking Turkey in the end. It's not getting me out of bed in the morning to eat some Turkey. Like if it was, would you do, would you do that? Does it taste any different or is it just different ways of doing it? Just depends. Dude, it's all trial and error is the problem with Turkey. Cause like a lot of times, like if you cook it even 20 minutes too long, it completely changes the, um, the texture and the taste of it. So it's just, it's so hard to get it exactly right.
01:00:24
Speaker
That's why you just kind of got to go with the tried and true method and just do it the normal way. Cause my sister did like some weird one, one year and it was God awful. Like we took a bite of it. It wasn't hurt. It wasn't her fault. Like it was just the way they, they did the recipe, the flavoring was just God awful. Like all it tasted, it just tasted like lemon. That's, that's all we could taste. And it was, yeah, it wasn't good. So.
01:00:49
Speaker
Yeah, just do standard turkey. It sucks, but just do standard turkey and then make sure you have a ham on the side to give people. I was going to say you guys, you guys also have a ham. Yes. We do Thanksgiving. We're doing ham too. We got a small ham for us. You got to get the, um, it's at Costco. It's called the master carver ham. Like that ham is like, I don't know. It's just way better than any other ham I've ever had. Is it like a whole ham or is it like a quarter? Yeah, it's just like a quarter of a ham and it's just like the best part of the ham and you just cook it for like an hour and it's phenomenal.
01:01:20
Speaker
So nice. Write that down. Master carver ham, master carver ham. Um, you're not going to write it. Tony also says it, I, I, I got this show to listen to. I can listen back and find out what the, what the, what it was. So, um, Tony Barker, in your opinion, what was the greatest survivor series team of all time? I'm going to recall, I'm going to call on our historian over here.
01:01:42
Speaker
Probably Actually, it's not probably dude. It's the Warriors from 1990s ultimate warrior The modern-day warrior carries on here and the road warriors hawk an animal Legion of doom. That's the in kayfabe That's the strongest survivorship team ever put together hulk had some decent teams But they usually would have some mid Carter stone in there cuz hulk ain't gonna let you know He's not gonna risk somebody outshined in him. So yeah, I think there's nothing that warriors team They went up against a pretty damn strong team their opponents were probably maybe the number two best team ever was mr Perfect and the three members of demolition
01:02:13
Speaker
That's a fantastic Survivor Series match. Either of you have any any better Survivor Series teams than that? Nope, that would be mine. Marco?
01:02:27
Speaker
I think we lost Marco. Marco will jump back in whenever he gets a good service. So what is the, he also says, wouldn't is the most acceptable time to put up the Christmas tree every year? Yeah. Yeah. I think, yeah, I'm with that. Anything after Halloween is a fair game. I know people get their panties in a wad about early November or pre Thanksgiving, but.
01:02:50
Speaker
I was really in the hell or that the Christmas spirit this year we still don't have our tree up we're gonna you know get it up in the next day or two but I don't shade anybody for getting it up I just think I think it just it's so warm it just feels such a good like a good season for
01:03:05
Speaker
You know,
Holiday Preparations & Wrestling Nostalgia
01:03:06
Speaker
the most part. And I think having your tree up is just, you know, you're just extending Christmas. And I love that. So we don't, we don't ever put ours up till Thanksgiving weekend. Cause we always get a real tree. So you gotta avoid that as a real tree. You're a little bit limited true. Yeah. Art as artificial folks. Uh, we, we have a little bit more leeway, but yeah, if you're, if you're a real tree person, yeah, you, you have a short window before the shit just starts. The pine needle start falling off and comes in.
01:03:32
Speaker
Turns into a fire hazard. So yeah, I was gonna say as an insurance agent i'm surprised that you would have a real true You know, even if we were getting a real tree, I wouldn't want to say anything because my fucking rate would hike somehow Dude, I got some bad news man. He said, you know They heard on the podcast that you're gonna get a real tree and uh, there's gonna be a premium for that for your uh, you know For your fire insurance, you know insurance man in the game and he's got the prices to match You know what man?
01:04:00
Speaker
I'm actually like hurt that you guys don't have a real tree because Sheena is the real queen. She's not about artificial anything. So I'm going to go against.
01:04:12
Speaker
Yeah, it is off brand. Um, the problem is, is I got our artificial tree when we lived in Hawaii. Um, and there's not a lot, I mean, one, the, the shipped in Christmas trees from Hawaii are higher than giraffe punani. So like, it was just, it only made sense to freaking just keep the, the, uh, the fake one. Then we moved to Virginia. It was just like, why, why buy a new one? You know what I mean? So, you know, you don't, you don't live in Hawaii.
01:04:38
Speaker
that I don't live in Hawaii anymore, but real trees are freaking expensive too, man. And I mean, and they're just, they're a single one year commitment, man. Sheena, you're disappointing me more and more by the minute. I took you as somebody who threw on your flannel, grabbed an ax and drove out to the middle of the forest and chopped down a tree. Like you have plenty of trees around you. You're telling me there ain't a single phrase, your fur or anything like that around you get real.
01:05:04
Speaker
How long does it take to grow a Christmas tree? You can just plant one each year and just grow it in the backyard. It takes way longer than that. I think it's like a 10 year process. You don't remember when your family, they had some Christmas trees growing. Um, it took a few years. Yeah. They had the little, their little Christmas tree patch. Um, yeah, I don't know. I just feel like, uh,
01:05:24
Speaker
I like a real tree, the smell and all that, but yeah, cleaning up those freaking pine needles all the time. I have enough messes to clean up, so I'm not trying to deal with that during the holidays. Zach Hertzler, favorite Survivor Series pay-per-view, and please don't say 97 when you breastfeed bread. I think it was 96, man. 95 is probably my favorite just for nostalgia. I think 96 was the best. As a whole pay-per-view? Yeah, yeah.
01:05:52
Speaker
Jordan Marco, either of you got any favorite survivor series? Dang, that's hard.
01:06:01
Speaker
No, okay. The 1991 was good as well. That was the only year they did it. It was nothing but elimination matches. There were no singles matches whatsoever. And that was the year that they had the ultimate match of survival at the end of the night. So all the baby face survivors went in and all the heel survivors went in for one giant match. Yeah, that's cool. And it ended up being Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, and Frickatito Santana going against like seven heels. And Hulk and Warrior ended up standing tall at the end of it.
01:06:29
Speaker
Survivor Series 2002 is a memorable one too, just because it was the first elimination chamber and that show rocked. I love that show coming back. It was in the garden. I was gonna say 98 too. My deadly game is pretty sick.
01:06:43
Speaker
Yeah, that's a good one to 90 Yeah, deadly game was a great one too. That's to me That's like the absolute peak of the attitude arity just all those different storylines converging into that tournament It's probably the best wrestling tournament. It's ever been 2002 wasn't that didn't big show beat? Didn't big show beat Brock Lesnar for the belt at that show also I think so Yep, he did that's one more Paul Heyman turned on rock for the big show
01:07:10
Speaker
Yeah, it was a good card. The whole card overall is really good. It's in the gardens that made it more special. And yeah, when Shawn Michaels won the belt, that was fucking the pop of the cinch, dude. Shawn Michaels. Shawn Michaels' last World Championship victory also. Yeah, Shawn Michaels. In the turd brown pants. Yeah, the turd brown pants. The turd brown pants he had on. Yeah. Wow.
01:07:35
Speaker
Sam Rosenthal, does AEW ever consistently do over a million for dynamite and does rampage and collision last through 2024?
01:07:44
Speaker
I think Rampage actually does pretty decent numbers, man. Collision. I don't know. I don't know what the financials are. I don't know. I don't know who's banking on the production on it because I feel like TNT could probably get more viewers by going on like a rerun of Armageddon or something instead of instead of paying to do the live production. It's going to get better, though, pretty soon because college football is about to end. So once that's over and that there's one less thing for people to watch on Saturday nights in the middle of winter, people will watch it.
01:08:12
Speaker
but it's still not gonna do well. I don't think it's going over a million or anything like that, but I think they definitely need to set their collision around, like how they did it with CM Punk, like he was like the main attraction.
Collecting & Lifestyle Debates
01:08:27
Speaker
They definitely need to do that with collision, like just pick somebody to be the face of that brand. And I think they'll be fine. They do that, but who that would be, I don't know.
01:08:41
Speaker
Yeah, I'm saying brand page. My collision definitely won't last through 2024. Sam Rosenthal says, how do you think MOC collectors enjoy the figures? Is it the smell of the cardboard or the feel of a plastic window? What is it? Jordan, you got to answer this one, dude. Damn, dude, you guys are just like fucking relentless. I think it's a genuine question.
01:09:06
Speaker
No, it's not a genuine question. This is fucking this is from Seth throwing his little shots on the group and me and the tune boys. And this is just this is just all Seth generated. Like everybody's like, Oh, you know what? Seth's actually right. Yeah. Yeah. He's definitely right on this. Like, dude,
01:09:24
Speaker
I don't like your display works perfect for you because you only have to put up whatever 50 figures a month. There is no fucking way I would have the patience to do that. There's just no way. It's just the way you are. So my figures are going to look the same whether they're out of package or in package. It really doesn't matter because there's no way I have the time every month to
01:09:47
Speaker
to put together a spreadsheet and do that. I just I don't know how the fuck you do it. Honestly, I don't like it like when you do the refresh every month like the like the mental gymnastics I have to do to go around what you just did to do that is like too much for me. Like it makes me break out in like a nervous sweat.
01:10:06
Speaker
Yeah. How do you think, how do you think living with this guy is dude? It's not just the figures that are like that. Everything I just, I can't even, I'm aware when I come to your house, we have to fucking put a spreadsheet together for the beers. Like I'm like, God damn it. So just grab me a fucking beer. I want to drink right now. I don't need a 12 minute fucking explanation on, he's like, he's like, all right, let me go to random.org and go on here to my spreadsheet. Okay. What, what beer is number 12? Oh, okay. Cool. I'm just drinking. I'm just gonna drink a Miller light right now. Dude, I live a purposeful life, man. I don't like to just,
01:10:35
Speaker
Go off to fly by the sea. All right. How many eggs do we got in the fridge, Sheena? I'll take egg number 13 and egg number 31. Yeah. Not 32, Sheena, 31. By living like that, you have no real control, though, because you're just putting everything up to random.org, which is just like, you know. No, I have control because I've curated the selections available for me. I know, but then you're just managing your time based on chance, dude.
01:11:03
Speaker
And like, I'm like one of the most patient people ever. Cause that's always like, you can just do whatever you want. I'm like, you know what? Just do your goddamn spreadsheet and put me beers in the fridge. I don't care. Just do whatever you need to do. Just get this over with as fast as possible so I can start drinking now. Yeah.
01:11:18
Speaker
we can't even watch TV we can't even just like pick a show like it's a rotation of like you know do we want to watch something we've never seen before are we going to pick from this list of replays are we going to watch we got one show that we have to finish like do start to finish so when we start it's always in the rotation like are we going to watch you know what we do in the shadows like oh we finished that season that goes into a different category now like yeah
01:11:47
Speaker
I think it's hilarious that Seth ended up with someone like me who just, I don't even know how to use Excel. It's never even been something that I've ever wanted to learn.
01:11:58
Speaker
I just fly by the seat of my pants every every day I feel like when you fly by the seat of your pants you think that it's like oh I'm just gonna you know go with my gut I feel like you end up doing the same shit over and over and over and over dude I feel like the way you don't do the same shit over and over and over you have a list of things that you do and you do them over and over and over just because you do them organized versus just I do totally different stuff that dude I'm always trying different beers. I'm watching different wrestling events dude like yeah, you're still watching wrestling on the whole podcast dude
01:12:27
Speaker
Seth, what did I hit you with that day? I'm like, I can't believe you don't randomize this. And you're like, God damn it, dude. You just probably cost me like five hours a time. It was my shirt, Steve. We were talking about, uh, we were talking about, you sent me some like t-shirt and you're like, dude, are you getting this? I was like, I don't know. I got to see if I'm going to make a cut. I got to go take a look at my closet. And you were like, I'm surprised you don't just have like a list of like, what's next on the chopping block. And I was like, damn, that's a really good idea. And I've adopted that idea since then, dude. No, I do have. I know which shirt's next on the chopping block.
01:12:57
Speaker
Yeah, if anybody thinks this is like caught like satire in any way This is a bit this is 1,000% Let me pull it up right now. Here are the here are the next three shirts that are said to be future endeavor, dude It's it's my slash November rain airbrush shirt my in your house bad blood shirt.
01:13:16
Speaker
And, um, my in your house, revenge of the taker t-shirt, those are the three that are in the, on the cut line right now.
Parenting & Wrestling Influences
01:13:23
Speaker
So if you're, if you're a medium, uh, and you want to join the Foley fam, he always posts them in the Foley fam first to give anybody that revenge of the taker shirt is going to hurt getting rid of. That's like one of my favorite wrestling shirts.
01:13:26
Speaker
I
01:13:36
Speaker
I don't think I'll get rid of that one dude. I'm trying to put together a collection of all the shirts from Survivor Series 96 to Survivor Series 97 So I think even though that one's kind of like a low tier shirt right now I think that's one that is it's kind of firmly entrenched in the collection man I still I need to find one for in your house final four and for in your house It's time the one that was Brett and Sid in the main event, but it was supposed to be Vader So that's the two I need to find and I'll have everything from my my favorite year of wrestling
01:14:06
Speaker
Bro, I was thinking about this the other day. Nevermind. We'll take this off air. We're not doing this right now. No, because I don't think I should put this out of the universe on tape. I think we need to talk about this before we even approach this idea. So I know Jordan, if he says he needs to be off air, let it be off air. You don't want to you don't want to fucking push him and us getting fucking canceled. It's not that bad, but let's show it for right now.
01:14:30
Speaker
Oh boy. Okay. We'll circle back to that. Sam gives us our last question. He says, were you ever worried that your kids are, were you worried your kids did or would not like wrestling ever?
01:14:41
Speaker
No, it would have been fine if they didn't. It's great that they're like, even Stella, our daughter is even starting to get into wrestling, which has been awesome. But the end of the day, I was totally fine with it being my thing. I never want to be one of those parents who like force their interest on their kids. But you know, it just happened organically. Brent's really into it. I mean, he can actually tell you like he's got a pretty damn good knowledge on like 90s wrestling and stuff at this point between the figures and just watching old stuff. And Stella, you know, she loves all the all the female wrestlers. She's real big into like the pageantry of it. You know, Becky Lynch is her favorite stuff.
01:15:11
Speaker
Yeah. And wrestling is something that you can easily incorporate with your kids. It's not like golf or like, you know, something like that, or it's like, it's, it's a you thing where you just like leave for five hours and you know, like kids aren't involved, right? Like your kids see you. It's very kid friendly. Yeah. They see your collection. They see like, they can sit and watch it with you on TV. Um, it's perfect for me. It's simple. Good guys, bad guys, bright colors, like over the top. Yeah. And for the most part, it's pretty kid friendly. Like it's for the kids. Yeah.
01:15:37
Speaker
I'm just saying there's nothing that's going to be too over the top or offensive for kids, especially in WWE. But yeah, and again, I'm like Seth, I don't think, I don't want to push any of my interests on my kids, but I think it's only natural for your kids if you're passionate about something and you enjoy it that your kids are going to be naturally curious to want to get in on that. So always let your kids in on your hobbies. I think it's a- Yeah, let them in.
01:16:05
Speaker
I have to tell a quick story just cause you were talking about like your interests invading your kid's life. So we obviously watch football at my house every weekend. We watched the Husker game and watched the Falcons game. So pretty much Zoe's entire life. All she's known is both of those teams being dog shit. And on Sunday, she's like, are the Falcons playing today? I was like, thank God. No. She's like, why? I was like, they had demoted from the NFL and she was like, really?
01:16:32
Speaker
I was like, No, not really. She's like, I really wish they would start winning so I can start wearing my jersey to school. I'm like, Yeah, me too. I really wish they'd start winning so I can start wearing my jersey to work, but she probably just wishes she had a dad who wasn't just a fucking psycho.
01:16:49
Speaker
Yeah. Who just wanted to root for all the losers. Remember Jordan, when you put on your sting shirt, when we were going to raw, be like, what shirt are you wearing? And we're like, he like, Oh, wear my sting shirt. I love to root for losers. It was after WrestleMania 31. He already dressed up as Bray Wyatt for, uh, for WrestleMania 31. And then the next, you know, sting got his ass kicked and he had already had his sting shirt picked out for raw.
01:17:11
Speaker
Hey, man. Yep. There's one thing I'll say about you. There's one thing you can't say about me though is I am a faithful person. I will I will stick with you to the very end. Like, you really have to spurn me bad to get me to go away from you. Like I don't know what it would take for me not to be friends with one of you guys, but it would probably take a lot.
01:17:32
Speaker
Um, very loyal. Yeah. Just, I don't really know what it would take. It's just, but she's growing Zoey's growing out of wrestling now. She's just, I mean, she's at that age right now. She's 11. So it's a, it's all for girls, dude. It's totally like, they could come back sometime to you, man. You know what I mean? He could totally come back in a couple of years. It's all makeup and beauty and dance right now for Zoey. But Zoey also has another parent.
01:17:55
Speaker
Ari, as we know, who has awesome, yeah, awesome, you know, makeup, nails, all these nails. I told her she and her other parents activities and hobbies. I told Ari, she completely blew with her face or Instagram account. I said it should have been nails with a Z by Nemi. And then you could have combined your wrestling and your nail polish dog.
01:18:20
Speaker
Yeah, she could have just done like different, uh, like nail themes for wrestlers, dude. Like, you know, she could have done like paint jobs, like for certain ring gears or certain events and stuff like that. Um, she doesn't really do the nail art though, right? She just does like the, she's timeless. She's timeless. She's a classy lady. Yeah.
Wrestling Trivia & Thanksgiving Wrap-Up
01:18:44
Speaker
All right. Want to remind you guys use code chick Foley and hit up that black Friday sale at ringside tomorrow. Sheena hit Marco with the question. Yep. Marco's up on the hot seat for trivia. I got a sneak peek. It's a fucking burner. This would have been straight up fucking shot. A shot in the dark would be an improvement over my guess on this question. All right. Are you ready, Marco? We'll see.
01:19:08
Speaker
You're ready. Who's finishing move was made illegal in Missouri in 1983. That's a WWF question. It's a WWF question. Who's finishing move was made illegal in Missouri. I have to name the person or the move. The person. Uh,
01:19:37
Speaker
Just throw out any, any wrestler from the eighties and get a good shot. Lawler. Jelly King. Lawler. Powell driver. I don't know. No, it was Jimmy Snooka. I can't find anything. Just a splash from the top was made illegal.
01:19:57
Speaker
I'm assuming it was like a story. I'm thinking maybe it was done for like a one-off storyline or something for a match, but there's absolutely nothing. Hey, I call it illusion. Guys, maybe we're thinking about this the wrong way. Maybe they're talking about the other. Oh, baby.
01:20:14
Speaker
Oh, you know, I think 1983 was when he caught that freaking charge. Yeah. His girlfriend. Yeah. Murder. Yeah. Legit finished the chokehold. Oh, that's right. All right. Sheena hit us with some closing thoughts as we wrap up this Thanksgiving special. Enjoy your time with your family this week. Um, if you're cooking, don't, don't get to, don't be getting all Pinteresty and everything. It's Thanksgiving. Make the best tasting food you can. It's not a time to be experimenting with, uh, with your dishes.
01:20:42
Speaker
Like I said, enjoy time with your family, be safe, be happy, and we'll catch you on the other side.