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JURGEN KLOPP 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL!! (Part One)
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Jesse Sarwar is joined by Louie Easton and Karl Coppack as the three discuss their fondest memories of Jurgen Klopp's tenure at the helm of Liverpool's success.
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Celebrating 10 Years of Klopp at Liverpool
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Hello and welcome to the Daily Liverpool podcast brought to you by the Global Sports Podcast Network. The international break continues. So while our players are travelling to all corners of the earth, we on the podcast are going to look back on what was ah quite possibly the most transformative period in the history of Liverpool Football Club. This week marked 10 years since a certain Jurgen Klopp walked in as Liverpool boss.
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Took us on a journey that I suppose none of us fans, haters alike will will ever forget. um So to mark that 10 years, ah we're going to talk about the 10 things we remember most about his reign as Red's boss. Joining me on the pod today for this little trip down memory lane, i've got Louis Easton. Louis, how are you?
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Yeah, good mate. um Always ah pleasure to jump on here, especially when it's talking about Jurgen Klopp, a man that we all love as Liverpool fans, who we owe so many great footballing moments to.
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ah So yeah, real pleasure to be here. and fresh off a long journey from Ipswich, Mr Karl Kopach. Karl, how are you mate? Yeah, I've been crossing the international time zones here in East
Klopp's 'Normal One' Introduction
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Anglia.
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On his own international break. Yeah. um So let's um let's kick off our 10 most memorable moments ah from the Jurgen Klopp era.
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i think i i I suppose we've got to start with how he introduced himself. um Karl, the arrival of the normal one in that normal one press conference.
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um I'm going to play little clip um so that we can all be refreshed in terms of that press conference. so I'm a totally normal guy.
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I'm the normal one, maybe, if you want this. um Yeah.
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I mean, Carl, straight off the bat, I mean, he just, he wowed everyone, Liverpool supporters, but also the sitting press media, pretty much everyone.
Pre-Klopp Struggles at Liverpool
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Yeah, I'm actually going to go back a a little bit further than that and talk about what happened before that, because but for me, this seems like it was three years ago.
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um Liverpool nearly win the league in thirteen fourteen um should have won the league. The season after that is one of the most miserable seasons I can ever remember we with Liverpool.
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are humiliated throughout the entire season. We get to the FA Cup semi-final um where we play and Ashton Villaside who are begging to be sent down and they beat us. We don't play any forwards and we end that season losing 6-1 to Stoke.
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Brendan Rodgers should be sacked there and then, but he can't be sacked because Jürgen still wants his year off after Dortmund. um So we have to give another 50 million quid to Brendan Rodgers to blow on Christian Benteke and people like that. And Roberto Firmino needs to say in the saying as well.
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um And 100 million. And Liverpool 2015 to 2016 was miserable. was miserable four before Jurgen Klopp arrived. We go to Goodison, and everyone in the away end that day knew this was yeah of this was Brendan Rodgers' last game.
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was it was It was the worst kept secret ever. Everyone knew. He got a round of applause at the end, and we drew 1-1. Danny Ings scored. My mate fractured his ankle celebrating and then told his girlfriend afterwards that he didn't do it.
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Drunk at a football match is one my favourite memories. I think I can say that now after 10 years. Just don't name him. Yeah, he did it the match, love. And being I remember driving back to London from that. We stopped at Warwick Services and it was announced that Brendan Rodgers had lost his job.
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which again, we all knew, and we all looked on our betting apps, because if if if you know that world, whoever the favourite is to be the new manager is the new manager, because people know, and there is in insight into these things.
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um When Jurgen Klopp was odds-on favourite, everyone in the car said, well, it won't be him. And there was talk of Ancelotti at that time. It can't be Jurgen Klopp because Jurgen Klopp is is he's on holiday and we want Jurgen Klopp and we absolutely know he wants us.
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But he's not going to cut down. He's knackered after Dortmund. He needs to, um you know as it indeed has, he left. He just was just too tired to become a football manager.
Style Shift: First Game Against Spurs
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So we get the news that in October he's going to be our new manager.
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And from the Openham press conference, I'm slightly disappointed that he wears a Genesis T-shirt. Yeah. at one point. um So straight away, he got my back up for that. Was that a worrying sign for you? I was furious with that.
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um Because it Phil Collins related. Then he wears a Beatles t-shirt after that. Okay, you've got the memo. come with rabbi stood with quite um It wasn't quite the foreshadowing of heavy metal football, was it? No, where no. And then um and and he comes in straight away and basically says, it's okay.
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It's all right. Let's go and do this. And you think about, you know, what's the first thing he did? We have a 0-0 with Spurs. Spurs. I've never seen a side work as hard as Liverpool that day trying to impress the new boss.
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Don't talk about that one, Carl, because that's on my list of favourite moments. But it is his first moment and it's important that he gets a 0-0. And I remember he's laughing with with Lucas as he walks off the pitch.
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Yes, Lucas was still playing at that point ah for Liverpool. And I remember more than anything, my mate with his ankle bandaged up in the car said, I just want a manager we can all get behind.
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Because like I couldn't stand Brendan Rodgers. Couldn't stand him. in yes two thousand And 2013-14, but I don't warm to that personality, that sort of LinkedIn personality. I can't abide it.
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It's all about the dance, things like that. i just I hated that. And um I just wanted a proper manager back. That's probably because, you know, Brendan replaced Kenny and, you know, what the club did to Kenny was disgusting.
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But I just, um that that really stuck with me. I just want a manager we can all get behind. And um we got one. Louis, that first press conference set a tone, didn't it?
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i mean, we as Carl said, he kind of reassured the fan base that, as Carl said, it was going to be all right. Yeah, and to be honest, at the time, i had no idea that Jurgen Klopp was that likeable because I just, you know, bearing in mind, i was, and this is going to show how young I am, I was about, no I was 10 years old at the time, I think, and I was at a friend's sleepover when Brendan Rodgers was announced to get the sack.
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ah Yeah, me and Karl wrote sleepover as well. Saga holiday more like it. yeah And and yeah I thought he was just an angry German man that shouted at officials. I didn't realize that he was so likable in the press conference. So when he came over and ah he said, I'm just the normal one.
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And he had a laugh with the press and everything. I just, I was so delighted because I knew he was a good manager. But I also knew that he could be quite tough on the players when he needed to be. So I think that's exactly what we needed at the time, because the only time I've ever seen Brendan Rodgers get angry from my memory is when he was shouting at Raheem Sterling in training for saying steady.
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um And he wasn't even really shouting, was he? It wasn't that, you know, it didn't... a brent kind of Yeah, exactly. That kind of thing. so and And it was just exciting to me to get a manager with success and, you know, getting that Dortmund team to the 2013 Champions League final as well. um And he built a dynasty there. And I was just excited for that next stage. And i was kind of sick of Brendan Rodgers anyway, by that point, because we all know he wouldn't have got close to the title without that brilliance of Luis Suarez.
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Yeah. Yeah. And it's, you talk about the kind of um stature of Jurgen Klopp. It's the presence. It's the gravitas, right? I think there are certain clubs, Liverpool are one of them, that, and i and yeah I'd say Manchester United is is ah is another example where when you go into that dressing room, people have got to sit up and they've got to take notice.
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And, You may not be the you know tactically the most you know revolutionary manager, but you've got to have something about you that the senior players sit up and think, yeah, I'm i'm going to take instruction from this guy. And wow, did they take instruction?
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But Karl alluded to the Spurs game, and that was the first game um of his reign. And that's my that's my second um kind of memorable moment of his
Lallana Exemplifies Klopp's Pressing Style
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reign.
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The sight of Adam Lallana being subbed off late in that second half. I think it must have been around about 80 minutes. And just collapsing into the arms of Jurgen Klopp because the intensity of Klopp's style of play.
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And this was the first game. And I think people forget as well that in much the way that you know, in, in later seasons, Klopp would describe Roberto Firmino as the system, right?
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In those early kind of months and, and couple of seasons, Adam Lallana was the man when it came to the press, like, you know, triggering that press for Liverpool. He was, his work rate was just absolutely phenomenal. So,
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That's the one that I remember, Carl. Lallana you know la lana just kind completely exhausted in that first game. Yeah, and Lallana spoke about this as well. They said they just got on straight away. i know and know Obviously, he's not captain but because because Henderson is, but...
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um straight away he just said, yes, i ah I understand exactly what you want, i exactly exactly what you want this club to be. and And that, the the first game was all about gegging press, wasn't it? That was the what people were saying all the time. Like, you know, you watch how this Liverpool team are going to press now and,
00:11:15
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I love, and this this comes later, but I love the fact that Andy Robertson gets down to stand to the training ground for his first training session, does ah does a standard Jurgen Klopp training session, and he's vomiting at the end of it.
00:11:27
Speaker
And bearing in mind he's a football player who's played in the Premier League. um You know, it's... it to bit To play for Jürgen Klopp, you've got to be fit for the things he wants you to do, for the things he's going to do. I mean, Brendan pressed as well. brendt brendan I remember Brendan's first game against the Gommel FC of Austria.
00:11:45
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We pressed immediately. But this was like sort of... I read somewhere about the Tottenham game that it wasn't a football game. It was an aerobic session just because if if if you paused for a second, he was on you.
00:11:56
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And this is how we win games. We win the ball high and we take it all from there. And bearing mind, we didn't have the players to do that. Christian Benteke is not going to do that for you, whereas Sadio Mane will. So, you know, we we haven't got the the big three at that time. We've only got Firmino. And even then, we didn't know what where Firmino played on the pitch.
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So, you know, it's very, very difficult to do that. so But that that was his opening statement, really. this This Liverpool team works hard. Yeah, Louis? Yeah, of course, um just on Lallana, if you remember that sort of Sky Sports package they did at the end of the season when Jurgen Klopp was leaving, Adam Lallana said something quite eye-opening. He said he was struggling with life at Liverpool before Jurgen Klopp arrived, and he just made him feel so much more settled.
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And after he heard that message from Lallana, said, to wow, I had no idea. I actually spoke to Adam Lallana the other day and because it was his birthday. that tells you that sort of connection he had with not just players, but also players that had moved on years later. He stayed in touch with them.
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And um but easy it just shows you the down-to-earth man that Jurgen Klopp is. and it just shows you the kind of manager he was.
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And how that kind of personal relationship really, it kind of manifests itself on on the pitch. You know, the the way that they would work for him, the way that they would fight for him.
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um And I suppose that kind of team bonding, that kind of team unity, Klopp's attempt to really build that um that feeling amongst the team, amongst the club and the fan base,
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Speaker
We saw that in um my my my third example in terms of ah of a memorable moment. And that was something that was kind of criticised at the time. And that was the West
Fan Bonding: Applauding After a Draw
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Brom draw. Yeah, I've got that on my list too. We're at home and did we draw or 2-2? I think it was Was it?
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it 2-2. 2-2, yeah. um It was the last minute goal and, you know, he he brings the team together and, you know, they they go in front of the cop and they, you know, they applaud the cop and he got panned for that, Louis.
00:14:14
Speaker
But yes um he did explain the reasoning behind that. It wasn't that, look, um the criticism was, look how far Liverpool have fallen, that they're, you know, they're celebrating a 2-2 draw at home to West Brom.
00:14:31
Speaker
Whereas Jurgen Klopp, Was trying to do what, Louis? He was trying to show that these players can dig in and graft out performances for the fans.
00:14:44
Speaker
And it was like a sort of this is more thing. ah this This is everything to these fans, at which he... um which he reiterated numerous times throughout his managerial career at Liverpool.
00:15:00
Speaker
And, you know, it was the first of many late Divock Origi goals under Jurgen Klopp as well. So it was just a sort of there's more to come sort of thing. And, you know, I wasn't annoyed at it at all during the time because it's it's just a show of testament to what he was trying to build at Liverpool.
00:15:22
Speaker
And it turned out, you know, in hindsight, it was a moment. It was like a sort of first chapter ending at Liverpool. um I can't remember if that was the 2015-16 season or it was... 2015-16, yeah, December. Oh, it was December. So, you know, ah two months later, we were in a League Cup final, which we hadn't been in for four years.
00:15:46
Speaker
And we were also in the Europa League final at the end of the season, which, you know, it completely broke my heart at the time. but if I knew then what I know now, i wouldn't have been so heartbroken at the end of it.
00:15:59
Speaker
Yeah. Carl, there was that kind of... um the kind of games that led up to that West Brom game where um ah you know that there were ah some of the crowd had left early.
00:16:12
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And think with this West Brom game, Klopp wanted to actually say thank you to the crowd for so for sticking with them as opposed to kind of leaving early as well.
00:16:23
Speaker
Yeah, we we'd lost so Newcastle. 2-0. too now we were im just I'm just looking at it now. i don't i't have perfect recall on this. um um In fact, we lost the next game 3-0 to Watford.
00:16:35
Speaker
um we We did all right, but we were ninth in the league. and um And, you know, a lot of it's it's not really his season because he didn't start till October. But... um Yeah, it was his first... I've just looked at the side, actually, if he played that that game. And it's not bad. so It's nowhere near as bad as you think it was going to be.
00:16:55
Speaker
But, you know, there's some pretty big names in there. But I think that though that was his first... I didn't like it, to be honest, when he did it. I thought it was... ah I thought it was... um Do that when you've won something, mate.
00:17:07
Speaker
that that That was my attitude to that. And that still will be my attitude to it today. um But... um It was a difficult time, that, because... You want him to do something. And he had done, the first thing he did is he went to Man City and won 4-1 and absolutely battered Man City, who were obviously the team that were, you know, they they were going to be the next team for the next six or seven years.
00:17:29
Speaker
And he was getting somewhere, but then again, he was going to Newcastle and losing 2-0 and Liverpool was still flat. And the team that played that day, they were all right, but that wasn't his team. um Can I lead this into my point next? Yeah.
00:17:43
Speaker
Which I think is a significant moment, so um is Mamadou Sakho.
Discipline Established: Sakho Dropped
00:17:48
Speaker
I think yeah i think but i think this this was the first time I was genuinely, genuinely happy with him because, i mean, obviously we get to two finals the end of that first season. we don't lose it We don't win any of them.
00:18:00
Speaker
Philippe Coutinho takes the worst penalty I've ever seen in the League Cup final. And ah I think Jürgen gets the second half from the Kate Seville. And I'll never forget that. I was furious when he turned to the crowd and started G-ing them up and I thought, yeah, mate, but look who you got playing left-back.
00:18:13
Speaker
We're losing this game because you refused to take the left-back off and he's awful. And... and um But then we go on tour in america to go to America, and Mamadou Sakho is basically taking the Michael.
00:18:28
Speaker
And he'd been bought two years earlier, and Ian Eyre had called him a marquee signing for 18-minute quid. It's a marquee signing. And I was thinking, he's a centre-back. Yeah. um And he's not all that.
00:18:42
Speaker
And so, if anyone doesn't remember this, Sacco, does he miss the flight or he nearly misses the flight? And then he starts missing training sessions. this and use each east his Instagram game is suddenly going through the roof because he's big popular man, but do Sacco.
00:18:55
Speaker
And Jurgen Klopp straight away is not having him, just not having him. And that was, for me, is the first time that we see the Jurgen Klopp sound lad policy only.
00:19:07
Speaker
um which which which is incredibly important for what's to come. He's just not having that. No, we don't do that. And you get this with managers, obviously, because Rafa got rid of um Danny Murphy straight away, broke up the English clique, you know, that that we'd got from Hulia. Hulia got rid of Paul Ince immediately.
00:19:25
Speaker
um You know, you get this and think, right, no, there's a culture at this club and you're not it. um And I couldn't stand Mamadou Sakho. I just thought he was a showboat. I mean, he got he obviously had this big moment ah where where he scores and recover refers to Liverpool as the the Liverpool country, which ah which I really liked.
00:19:44
Speaker
But, um yeah, straight away, but we're not messing around with people like you anymore. Off you go. I'll still play Martin Scurll, even though he's you know so slow these days. And that that was a huge, huge shift for me.
00:19:58
Speaker
i used to i used to call I used to call him Potatoes. Because? Oh, I see. Yeah. I used to call him a word I can't say on this podcast. shut My mum was a family-friendly version.
00:20:15
Speaker
Yeah. I had strong views. Couldn't abide him. Two left feet. Two le left feet. um He was massively, massively overrated. But I do take your point. I do think that that was...
00:20:29
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a really significant moment in terms of Klopp's management of that team and just kind of sending out a message that, you know, this this is how it's going to be done.
00:20:42
Speaker
And if you rock this boat, then, you know, you're going to be thrown overboard. It can look... you know hypocritical because I couldn't stand the way Raheem was treated by Rodgers or Stephen Samba when the American told when he's really's been told he's been pulled apart and slagged off by the manager big but but but because I kept thinking yeah but you've not won anything yeah though you're making out you're a huge authority figure in the game and you got sacked by Redding two years ago come on and you as my my mate says about Rodgers sorry I'm going to say this is an anti-Rodgers thing he's not astounded that Rodgers got the job at Liverpool he was amazed he got an interview
00:21:17
Speaker
um you know But that's how far we'd fallen. And um I thought, if Jurgen Klopp is saying to a player, you're not good enough, then you're not good enough because he's lucky you know he's he's looking after Tony Kroos. He's looking after people like that. you know um that That great, great Dortmund side. you know He was bringing people like you through and he's looked at you and thought, I'm not having you.
00:21:39
Speaker
I'm not having you being ill-disciplined. I talking about Saka being the next captain. In fact, he may have even captained the game. I don't know. But... um to just stand up and say, right, we are going to have a change here and we're not doing that. And we're not going to buy people like you either.
00:21:56
Speaker
Indeed. um let's Let's move on to the the the next one that' um that I've got on my list, which is the ah Europa League semi-final against Dortmund.
Dortmund Comeback: A European Night to Remember
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Speaker
And, um you know, incredible game, incredible comeback. um I think it's slightly forgotten about because it just got overshadowed by the Barcelona um game, the Barcelona comeback. But that game against Dortmund and, you know, the the comeback,
00:22:30
Speaker
uh the last minute goal dejan lovran uh louis it was such a ah great moment another great european night and it was the first big european night for jürgen klopp at anfield and you know there were going to be more to come but we didn't know that at that time did we yeah I'll tell you something. um i actually couldn't watch that match because I was ah doing something else at the time. and I was absolutely it all yeah with your homework i was actually in a theater production, a youth theater production that night. um
00:23:04
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ah But my dad was talking about it to me once I got into the car. like, you missed the most unbelievable thing I've ever seen. And I remember my sister had made a rule in the car for no football talk in the car while she's in it.
00:23:18
Speaker
And i I really aggressively, 11 year old me, told her to shut up. So that was my memory of that night. But when I got home, I watched the highlights and I just, oh my word, I couldn't believe what I'd seen. Because um if you remember, Marco Reus scored to make it three one And it was like, well, that's it then. It's that sort of feeling that I got. You can't do it now. Then I saw This was the away goals, right?
00:23:50
Speaker
Away goals still counted. Away goals was still a thing at that point. And I mean, that last minute header from Lovren, from the cross, from Milner, and especially for Klopp to do it against his old team, it must have been such an emotional night for him as well. I can't remember anything he said about it, but the amount of times I watched that Lovren goal, he gobs out...
00:24:12
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his gum onto the pitch. It's the greatest gob in Liverpool history. Oh, it's such a great gob. ah It's a hell of a jump well. i um so so Oh, my words. It's just, it would have made been made even sweeter had it not been for the severe...
00:24:27
Speaker
game but it's the first clop comeback that uh that felt special that had that sort of gravitas about it and you say that um it's sort of been overshadowed there is some truth to that but you know for the people for for the for the fans that suffered in the early 2010s it felt special and it felt like this was you know liverpool of the late 70s with fairclough again um so yeah i it's one of my favorite matches of the clop era by by a landslide compared to some of the other premier league matches that we had
00:25:12
Speaker
There's also yeah something happened in that game sorry there's something that happened in that game that I've not seen before or since ever, and it's extraordinary, and everyone forgets about it. when it get When we get the get it back to 3-3, Hummels gets the side together in the sort of cop mainstand corner flag and huddles.
00:25:33
Speaker
I have not seen that. Mid-game, he stops the game. and he and he gets over but but While they're waiting to kick off, instead of kicking off, they put a huddle together and they're basically saying, what do we do now?
00:25:45
Speaker
And that was the great Dortmund side. Gundogan's played in that side. You know, Hummels people like that, Royce. The other leg at the Signal Iduna Park, there was... I remember... I can't remember who it was that was on the ball. It might have been Socrates on the ball or Subatic. I think it might have been Subatic, who just stops on the ball because they had been passing it around, trying to break this Liverpool defence that was...
00:26:10
Speaker
unbreakable at that point i think our defense in that uh in in that away fixture often gets overlooked because there was one point where he just stops on the ball and just has a think and the commentator just goes they're just regrouping not knowing how they can break break this liverpool wall yeah if they did the same thing in this game now what do we do Yeah, I think Emre Cham terrific in that other game well. He good in that game, yeah. Yeah, and now he plays for them and captains them, so funny how life works.
Conclusion and Tease for Next Episode
00:26:41
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yeah Yeah, an amazing game, and and I just think that That game just gave us a taste you know of something that we we hadn't had for a long time, which was a ah glorious European night.
00:26:55
Speaker
And just that kind of you know promise of you know of more to come. So that's it for part one of the Jurgen Klopp 10-year anniversary special of joining Liverpool Football Club. as manager. Join us again tomorrow for part two as we look back on more of Jürgen Klopp's best moments and greatest memories in charge of Liverpool. See you tomorrow!
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