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Season 5- Weekly Fantasy Corner (Premiership Round 9)
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It's another fun filled Fantasy Corner from TFRY! On this version of FC, we get into the Autumn Nations Official Fantasy Game, those that haven't seen it before, it's pretty much the same as the Official 6 Nations Fantasy Game. We talk a bit of strategy, picks that might be outside the box and of course don't forget to join the league (link below)! Of course, we have a look at the happenings in Champi-Yanks League, including a minor glitch that cost someone a win...maybe not so minor. Yes, Start or Sit is included, at least to the best of our ability. Grab your notepad & pen and join us for some fun!
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Welcome
00:00:02
Speaker
It is the fantasy rugby angst. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody handled that. Collusion. Collusion. Hey, everybody. Welcome back. It is the fantasy rugby angst. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser.
00:00:33
Speaker
Last I checked. There we go. Are you? I'm Ron Burgundy. I'm Ben Glowes.
Fantasy Rugby Strategy Essentials
00:00:42
Speaker
All right. Uh, fancy time is the fancy corner. We're going to stop, stop in briefly on the autumn, uh, international's fancy game. Then we'll go through our usual spiel and then we'll do pick them and then we got to hear.
00:00:55
Speaker
Um, yeah. So for the autumn internationals, it's it's, and it's the same as always with, um, like, like with six nations, um, in any international fantasy competition, it is about finding the diamonds in the rough with the teams you don't necessarily think about. So for me, like the person name that pops into my head is, um, Emiliano Bafelli from Argentina. Cause he's kicking for them and you don't need to designate a kicker in this game. Right. So there's that.
00:01:24
Speaker
There is that, you know, but this is not like every other comp we've seen before because they're smart enough to actually give you points for a 50 22. Oh yeah. That's true. I forgot. Damn it. I did the service on that one. Yes. That's great. 10 points for a 50 22. We that's huge. Yeah. That's, that's a lot of fun that makes that as it should be. Love it.
00:01:46
Speaker
And again, know the rules of the fantasy game. That's the big thing. Seven points for a line break. You might want to think about that. Your plotters aren't going to get that. You only get one point per tackle. So if you get a guy who gets two line breaks, he's got
00:02:05
Speaker
Whoever you pick, he's covered the tackles already. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're fine. Well, there's another one out there. Seven points for a breakdown steal. Like, there's a lot of fascinating shit here. So, yeah, your sevens are going to like, you know, your Josh van der Fleers. Oh, yeah. That's where I'm looking for both of those points as far as breakdown steals and dominant attack. I'm not talking about line breaks. Although.
00:02:30
Speaker
Um, so here's the bad news. Theo is, I'll lose forward in this. He's not, I don't care. I mean, I'm still gonna pick him, but I'm still gonna pick him, but I'm just saying like, it would have been great if he was a second row, cause that would have been a freaking cheat right there. But yeah, Nope. Unfortunately not. Right.
00:02:51
Speaker
And then, yeah, and then you gotta like target obviously teams that might be playing some slightly softer opposition as well. Like I would load up, sorry Australia, I'm gonna load up on France, probably Scotland to a point at least. Cause as fun as Fiji's gonna be to watch, they usually surrender points. And yeah, and honestly like maybe take a couple of picks out of Italy Samoa.
00:03:16
Speaker
because that should be interesting. I'm just not sure which way it's going to go at this point. So I would say the the no brainer says Italy, but they did lose to Georgia this summer, so it makes me worry a little bit. By the way, Chun's is is well, I guess he's a lock in. Yeah, I just see him playing loose forward, so he might be a potential. Yep, I agree with that there potentially potentially.
League Updates and Match Analysis
00:03:45
Speaker
I agree with that. And you know, and then you have to figure out everybody has to, everybody's going to pick somebody like DuPont, obviously. So is that where you want to go? Is that where you want to get away? What's up? So you have to pick him too. Yeah. Um, really honestly, he's probably the one guy that you, that everybody's got to pick him and just leave it. Um, but there are other ones out there. Like a lot of people are probably going to pick Marcus.
00:04:12
Speaker
Not to say that that's bad, but there are other options that are going to be outside shots that might do better. I mean, it's going to be...
00:04:23
Speaker
probably one or two players every weekend that do better than Marcus, but that's the most, you know, he's, he's going to be pretty consistent as well, but you just have to find those little things. And obviously like we talked about, like Shins is going to, Isla says a lot, he could be playing loose forward. So that'll be, that'll be great. Um, stuff like that. And because there's no, it's not like TRM where you can only have a certain amount of, or even super brew where you can only have a certain amount of changes per, per week change. Sorry, that was bad.
00:04:54
Speaker
You got there eventually. Yeah, I got. You can just reform your whole team. So base it off of matchups each week, too. You know, some of them, yeah, like the DuPont, you're not going to take out because he's going to rat rake against everybody he plays. But like, you know, I was mentioning Wales. Well, they're playing New Zealand this week. So Chunze at Locke is probably still a bad play, even if he's at least forward. I'm still probably going to look elsewhere. Right. No, I agree with that as well.
00:05:22
Speaker
But yeah, there's just little things like that. And obviously you want to, but you want to find, and then you have the, um, the super sub as well. Yes. Don't forget that. You know, that, that can be, there's a couple of strategies with that. That can be, uh, you know, potentially a kicker off the bench or a hooker that is probably going to come in and score a try because through a driving mall. Right. You're back in the backup, whoever's backup for South Africa.
00:05:49
Speaker
Yeah, probably not always a good option because they they they play basically 40 and 40. So that's also true that you're going to get your the most bang for your buck out of out of that, although maybe not against Ireland.
00:06:01
Speaker
Again, that should be, that, that should be, that, that is probably the game to watch this weekend. Honestly. Yeah. I'm very, very excited to watch that. I mean, I think all of them are going to be fantastic, but that's probably the one that's going to be there. It's going to be physical. Not for the week of hot. No, not for the week of hot. No, no, no. No. Um, yeah, it should be interesting. All right. Would that.
00:06:29
Speaker
Let's go to pick them. All right. Not pick them. Oh, don't we, don't we do the, uh, the champion? Oh yeah. Duh, Jesus. See, this is why we have two of us. Cause one of us needs to get the other one on task. All right. Let's rattle through this first. Um, so I don't, so I don't completely cock this up. Uh, right. Champions first. So we had, we noticed there was a small glitch. Um, it says that Mark beat Cobus, but.
00:06:58
Speaker
It went into the book says Cobus beating Mark. So that's one of those rare ones where they make a after, you know, finalizing update and it goes, Oh no. No, there's a, there was a point change in there.
00:07:11
Speaker
But just the same. I beat Carrick. Hooray. Take that Carrick. I actually put up a hundred points. So I do feel bad for Mark and Cobus because they pulled put up a hundred odd each. So that was one of those ones like, yeah. Duncan smashed George by almost a hundred. And then your butt lost to Justin.
00:07:32
Speaker
by eight. It was just, that was a fucking pillow fight. Yeah. Although it didn't help that I got so many guys with cards. Nick David. Yeah. That happened with me. Yeah. No good.
00:07:44
Speaker
That alone, like Nick David's, yeah, Cardone was enough. Didn't I tell you to probably re-sam it? No. See, then there's what I need to think about, is that I was thinking of Nick David over Louis re-sam it, because I was like, you know what, I think David's going to score. I think that's the play. And so I asked Jared's advice and he agreed with me. And at that moment,
00:08:08
Speaker
Should have been a red flag. Should have known. So I blame myself for not recognizing what was staring me in the face. My fault. Oopsie. Yeah, it's not your fault. It's that we agreed. I was like, oh, we agree. That must be the smart thing to do. That must be the smart thing to do. No, do the opposite. Let's see. This week we have Duncan and Carrick, myself against George,
00:08:35
Speaker
Ben's against Justin, uh, not Justin. I'm sorry. Cobus. And then Justin is against Mark. Excuse me. And Cobus does that thing. He's God damn it. He does the same as George. Yeah. He takes all the players out. Now I got to go look at your lineup. You dick. I mean, I like it. I should do the same, but I don't. Yep. Uh,
00:08:59
Speaker
We have, and then we have the update from, uh, D two.
Current Standings and Predictions
00:09:04
Speaker
So Sophia was able to beat Stewart Stewart's been kind of the guy setting the pace for the majority of them. Larry beat Alex or Luke, excuse me. And then Alex won again. He beat Terry. Hmm. And then in a job Alex and a fucking pill fight, um, John beat, uh,
00:09:26
Speaker
Franco, it was 45.3 to 42.4.9. That is a pillow fight. Although it's, it's, it's hard. This, um, it's tough to find good sky. I don't disagree. It's yeah. You're going to get those with the way things are as, as of right now. Oh yeah. So Sophia sent the lineups over so many gaps. Yeah. And I mean,
00:09:52
Speaker
Alex Mitchell couldn't even save the day for Franco. Yeah. It's bad news, man. Uh, Jesus. Yeah. Nope. That sucks. Oh, well, but it is what it is. And that's, that's where we're at right now. So everybody's living with it. Everybody's right. Oh, we're all there. Uh, let's see what are the standings. The standings are Stewart's in front again, still. Um,
00:10:21
Speaker
Franco Sofia, five and three, they're both in wild card spots. John is working his way back into the competition there. Terry still gets the playoff spot out of the other conference, but he now has company at the top, hilarious type of them. And then Alex has dug himself out of the basement, as I said, he's three and five, so good for him. And then, yeah, unfortunately, Luke has fallen to the basement on that one.
00:10:46
Speaker
He has priority waiver wire. That's a good and a bad thing. That's good and a bad thing. Now we do start set. Now we do. There we go. And I start because I have same testing exit here on Friday. So this one is.
00:11:08
Speaker
it's pretty straightforward for Northampton to basically start their eight on out. So start with truck, then Mitchell, Finn, or Grayson, whoever's starting there is good to go. And then everybody else in the back line, because, you know, again, we're seeing from Exeter that their defense is shaky. And a lot of their guys, so looking at Exeter, no LCD, no chunzi, no capstick, because I think he's still hurt, no Sam, they fucking don't have any forwards.
00:11:38
Speaker
Yeah, they don't even have Johnny. Like they don't have a lot of the guys that are no Johnny. No, he's in Scotland. Yeah. I just couldn't remember. I think because he played this past week against Saris or against wherever the cluster cluster. Yeah.
00:11:57
Speaker
Yeah, they just don't have anybody worth starting on, you know, in that pack. It's going to be a bunch of, it's going to be another five lock pack with locks to spare. So. Locks on locks. Right. No, don't,
Upcoming Matches and Player Selections
00:12:10
Speaker
no. You don't want to kind of want to stick away from them, but it also means that they're just going to cluge it up for the Saints pack. But then just get around them because there's the backline sparse too. You know, no, no Slade.
00:12:22
Speaker
No, not that that's really missing anything. So you're probably going to see, you know, another 80 from Ian Whitten. At this point, like, Hodge is a maybe. Joe Simmons should start, I think, assuming that
00:12:36
Speaker
what's his face is still hurt, but either way he should start at 15 if he's not at 10. And then Woodburn, yes. That's about it. It's going to be an ugly match for Exeter, I think. Yeah. I agree. And Exeter don't have the horses to take care of, to, you know, Northampton have a shaky defense, as we've been saying. I don't think Exeter have the horses to take advantage of it.
00:12:59
Speaker
No, I'm not. Certainly not with this team right now. I would say that's pretty fair statement. So it's just weird for me to be like, yeah, don't bother starting anybody against Northampton, but it's more like, don't bother starting anybody for Exeter. Yes, slight difference. All right. So I'm going to go through my matchup, which is sale and glosser.
00:13:23
Speaker
So, yeah, I'll do what I have been doing. So Lloyd Evans is probably playing a temp for Gloucester. I would hold off on that unless you're really, really need him. Um, I would look for somebody like Bailey or war boys or Finn Smith or somebody like that to fill in even con. And I would trust this week just cause they're playing bath, bath or just as much of a civ as anybody else. Um,
00:13:45
Speaker
Sailfront Row is still an off-limits for me at the moment. Gloucester is still a full-on go there, my number one this week. Halfback. Quirk's been released. Thumbs up. You get to go. Chapman. Yes. Anybody else? No. John Luke and Freddie are the only locks that are worth a damn in this one. DDP, Ben Curry.
00:14:08
Speaker
Ludlow and that's probably the best three loose forwards between the two teams. Reed and Ackerman if you're desperate, but Ben Morgan, no.
00:14:22
Speaker
Midfielders, let's see what we got here. That's going to be desperate times. We might see Jack Reeves this game. I don't know if it's worth playing him though, because it's what I like the kid. I'm not sure he's going to score going in the middle. We might see Seabrook on the wing and he's a midfielder, I think. So that's a go. In that case, if Roebuck's back, obviously he's a go.
00:14:44
Speaker
Other than that, for the midfielders, I am just like staying the hell away in this match. I can help it. Back three. Carpenter. Yes. Yeah. Flaherty. Yes. And then I don't know what Gloucester is going to have because they don't have Carreras. They won't have LRZ. Thorley. Lloyd's going to move to 10. If Thorley's healthy, he's an option.
00:15:08
Speaker
Kyle, we might see Kyle Moyle. I would stay the fuck away from that. And yeah, and that's it. And you know, if we, I'm okay with like Luke James or Aaron Reed as well. They've shown the ability to produce, but they just, it's just depending on if they're in or not. So that's that. Okay. Then off to the tune.
00:15:30
Speaker
Um, for easily the match of the week, uh, Newcastle hosting bath. Yikes. Um, well, McGuigan got, got returned. So the front row for Newcastle is a must start now. Um, and then at that, other than that, take some flyers on the back line. Yeah, there's probably a few not much, you know, especially with Sean Robinson gone now. Um,
00:16:00
Speaker
Good for him. I mean, hey, he does. He needs more. He needs caps. Honestly, he's been playing really well. Yes. And see, here's the other thing. If you if you weren't playing fantasy rugby, you wouldn't know how good he is. Truth. Even if you're watching them, it's sometimes as hard to see. But like them, once you start playing fantasy, there are the scores, he racks up. You're like, oh, wait, then watch me watch him play. Holy shit. That guy is good. He's playing on a bad team.
00:16:27
Speaker
But then take some flyers on the back line. They could still find some gaps. We've seen Bath have a leaky defense too. Radwin should certainly have some fun. For Bath, the front row also, yes. The loose forwards are kind of lineup dependent, but still should be good with Reed and Bayless. They have a decent
00:16:50
Speaker
back row stable so whoever goes out there should should play pretty well and um you know you mentioned the the two potential fly-ups for bath um war boys and bailey are yes yes um
00:17:04
Speaker
war boys, particularly was a great pickup for me. Last was the last doctor this past week, two weeks ago. Yeah. He was, he, he really cracked it up for me. So I liked that. And then the center should score Wells as well.
Expectations and Standout Players
00:17:16
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, Lawrence. Yeah. Give me, give me. Yes, please. Give me, give me. All right. So that leaves me with Bristol and series.
00:17:27
Speaker
Well, let's start with this. Alright, so 10s. She has the 10 shirts. He's a starting fly half. He might kick well. That's basically what I can say about that. So you're probably gonna play him. He's number five this week for me in fly-offs. That's also with War Boys and Bayley both in front of him. So just saying that. Manners probably hurt, so don't bother working with that.
00:17:51
Speaker
Bristol front row is my number two front row. That's a yes. Saris are number six, but they're still very playable. They're only six because I think there's five better matchups in front of them. And that's why. It's not because they're bad. They're still very playable. Ben Sale and Garen, yes. If we see Porter,
00:18:09
Speaker
Also, yeah, I would do that. Although Ben Sayles has been a pain in the ass to Nines this year. I will say that. Um, Jailed, not jail, sorry. Uh, Batley. Yes. Batley should be good. Um, Ben Earl's my number two loose forward this week. Um, obviously if it's Harding is up there as well. Sam Lewis. Yeah. Those are the three best loose forwards I could probably recommend out of this match.
00:18:34
Speaker
Um, O'Connor and laws are goes for sure in the midfield. If Jack Bates is on the wing, he's a midfielder. So he's probably all right. Um, yeah, midfielders are kind of meh. I mean, if you're desperate, start looking at people like Josh Hallett or Dom Morris, um, maybe bed loaf again, if you're desperate, um, but that's desperation, uh, Obies,
00:18:59
Speaker
Max Melins is my number one OB, so there's that. Purdy, I currently have the highest ranked OB, because Chuck's away, I think. So if he's not, then obviously he's up there. But yeah, Purdy up there, Lane, if we see him, yes. Morahan Fricker probably still plays, Lewington, Daly. And now, like I said, Good's probably gonna play 10, so he's in the top 10 for me right now.
00:19:28
Speaker
Right. So there's that, there's that for those. Bop it up. Okay. Of the weeks. I strongly hinted at my of the week. You actually named him. So I'm just going to go ahead and say it. Ollie Lawrence is going to. Yes. That's a good pick. New Castle. I agree. Yeah. If he's in that, if he's in there at that 13 shirt, forget it. I think he's going to have some, yeah, a little bit of a message for Eddie.
In-Depth Analysis and Final Thoughts
00:19:55
Speaker
I know. Right.
00:19:57
Speaker
Pick me, you goddamn asshole. Um, yeah. So mine is mine. I also named, um, gonna be, gonna be great. I think this week open match going back to familiar grounds.
00:20:14
Speaker
And I think, I think he's just going to give middle fingers all over the place to England. Uh, my start of the week for this round is England and series flyer max mail-ins. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to have opportunities as well. Yep. That's kind of what I was making. I was like, Oh, this is going to be fun. Isn't it? Yeah. Sits of the week, the opposite. Um,
00:20:39
Speaker
This guy is, you know, fantasy wise is on the, on the field. You never sit him, but fantasy wise, he's one of those bubble type players. And, um, he's going up against just a really tough defense. It doesn't matter who's out there or sale. Don't fuck around. So, um, you know, so some weeks where you want to start ruin Ackerman, this is not one of those weeks. Yeah. Yep. I agree.
00:21:04
Speaker
So my, so the week is from the same match and the same team.
00:21:10
Speaker
a lot of people are going to be very tempted to start this guy. And I really strongly advise you to seek other options. If you have him, I'm very sorry, but my Silla week for this week is going to be what is probably going to be Gloucester's fly off Lloyd Evans. Yeah. I just don't see good things happening. You know, I know good things happened for the 10 last week for series, but it's just, it's a different player. It really is, you know? And as we talked about, like all the plaudits of Alex good,
00:21:41
Speaker
It's just a different story. It really is. It's just like, really? Is that the one you want? This is not where you parked your car. Just saying. Just saying. All right. The pick of them. They must be picked. They must be picked. Back to a tie game here. What are we sitting at as far as our records?
00:22:10
Speaker
28 and 13. God damn, that's good. Yeah, not so bad. Yeah, I was just wondering, because I saw people were keeping their scores. It was a bunch of the Twitter accounts that were all kind of following. And they posted a bunch of theirs, and they were all right around where we are, although I think we actually might be better than them. All right. Who knew? Right. Right. Or at least in the comp, if we got ourselves out there with that.
00:22:40
Speaker
Saints Exeter and I'm. I it seems obvious, but I'm also like, is this a trap? I don't think so on a Friday night, Saints. Yeah, it takes it home a Friday night like that. It's a it's a way. It's I just don't think like, again, I don't think Exeter have the horses to take advantage of of Saints defense. I don't like.
00:23:08
Speaker
Yeah, no, Witten is not going for a run. No, no, the whole, the whole will be there, but it'll close before he can even like, I'll take a step and it'll be gone. Yeah. Look at that pretty hole over there. It's one of those, like, I tell the kids when they like close all gap on me, I was like, you know, 10 years ago, did
00:23:33
Speaker
10 years ago, you still would have done it, but it would have made you hate it. No, I would have been through it before you got there. But, um, um, okay, no, that's more 15 years ago, 10 years ago would have made you pay for it. Got to figure out where I am now. Yeah. Probably that part. All right. Uh, still in Gloucester up at the DJ bill.
00:23:54
Speaker
I'm going to take sale. I'm going to take Gloucester. Yeah. Yeah. I think Gloucester, obviously Gloucester, I had Gloucester at my top four at the beginning of the year. I still think they're, they're pegged for that. I don't think sharks are. This will be, well, this will be a, for me, this will be a statement. If they can get it down at the IJ bell statement, I will say that it's, um, Oh yeah. It's that cell. That's right. Yep. This is an agent. Yep. All right. Up to the tune. Newcastle and bath.
00:24:24
Speaker
I'm gonna take bath. I'm gonna take bath too. Yeah. I was thinking about it because Newcastle are tough at home, but Bath are playing a different brand of rugby. It's not like when Bristol went up to Newcastle. I trust Bath more than I trust Bristol right now. Terrifying. In so many ways, terrifying.
00:24:50
Speaker
All right, Bristol and Sarries. Sarries. The boys in black. Yeah. They haven't proven otherwise at this point. Yeah. And who's, I guess, no, it's got to be Shidi at 10 for Bristol. So. Shidi at 10. I think the back three and the back row for Sarries are enough. Yeah. You know, and good at 10. Right. Yeah. That's enough for me. You know, do I think this is going to be close? Yes. I think this will be close.
00:25:15
Speaker
Um, unless rad radra's coming back. Oh, for fuck sake. Don't say that fucking name. What's wrong with you? Hey, I don't think he is though. I think he's out. I think he's like seriously out. Yeah. Well, we were talking because I can't release him on my fantasy team until I, because he's like, this is about the time where he's supposed to come back. So right. Well, he's not in the Fiji squad, right? Right. So no, he's not. Well, there you go. Cause he's, he was supposed to come back in, in, um, November.
00:25:43
Speaker
October, October. And then you kind of like. Niggled it again. And then. Yeah. Let's see. Hold on. Yeah. Look at something for last week. And November returned to the. Yeah, that's what that's what I'm seeing is the November.
00:26:13
Speaker
Yeah. And I wonder if he returns in November, if maybe he gets a game just because probably if you don't want to throw him into international rugby right away. And if he gets a game in time and then can play in the autumn internationals, I bet you that's it. We'll see. Oh, hold on.
00:26:35
Speaker
Less than a year. Yeah. Rad Radra was called up for Fiji's autumn internationals. Yeah. So it looks like he's not going to be fit to play, but he's still going to be. Okay. Camp. Yeah. Maybe, maybe. So either way, either way, we might not see him either way. So thank you. All right.
00:26:51
Speaker
You enjoy that bit of a disaster on my lineup. Yeah, especially because I now I also have Anyanwu and Esther Hazen because you never know which or both of them are going to play right now. They're both on they're on this quote unquote by although is this Quinn's natural by or is this what we do? I would love to know all that stuff right now. So somebody wants to send that to me, please. Yeah.
00:27:16
Speaker
Please. And thank you. Okay. Well, there's that. All right. Right. They have been picked because it picks starts no tws and whatnot. Fancy rugby podcast at gmail.com. We will put out a start sits on, obviously on Friday. Yep. Let's see if I can get that sheet updated. Yeah. That whole thing.
00:27:39
Speaker
at least for the two fry on Twitter. Oh, there goes Ben. Anyway, we won't we won't pick it back up. That's all good. But we appreciate you all for hanging out with us and just chilling until until we talk to you next week. Enjoy Armand Nationals. Enjoy the fantasy rugby and what you can go join our league. Don't forget that and grab our Patreon if you can. But we appreciate you all listening and hanging out and supporting us. Have a good one, everyone. Cheers.