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The Hidden Rules of Reality & Where Humanity Is Headed with Arthur Fretwell

Make Your Own World
Make Your Own World

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Speaker: I'm James O'Neill, and these are conversations

Speaker: Welcome to the Make Your Own World podcast. I'm your host, James O'Neill, and today i am delighted to be joined by my good friend, Arthur Fretwell, who is a psychic medium, among other things, in the great state of Maryland. So welcome to the show, Arthur. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me, James.

Speaker: but What are we going to talk about today, man? Wait, aren't you the interviewee? I'm not teaching class. you You're the one doing this thing. Are you ready? You ready to for the question?

Speaker: Yes, sir. When did you first realize that what you were experiencing was different from ordinary imagination or intuition? When did your gifts kind of come online and and start kind of sifting through that?

Speaker: um i mean, I had my abilities my whole life. um I didn't know that they were different until later because nobody talks about the things that go on in your head.

Speaker: you know So there's always all sorts of stuff that people have that's going on in their head that they're not paying attention to. So that was a little different. When I was 19 years old, I had sort of an awakening type of process that happened as well.

Speaker: I had these really bad headaches for like six months. And my parents had taken me to every different kind of doctor that they could try in some form or another to figure out what these headaches were.

Speaker: And after the last series of glucose tolerance tests to see, because my dad was a diabetic, to see if it was something along that lines that was causing it, because I was also consuming about a 12-pack of Coke a day, know.

Speaker: I was a pretty good-sized kid for 19 years old. And some other things that were going on. I regarded my abilities when I was a kid as, they call it, an identic memory.

Speaker: When you can remember everything word for word that you've seen or yeah heard word or something else in that nature. When I was a kid, my dad used me as a human tape recorder.

Speaker: So anytime he went to UFO symposiums or things that were talking about conspiracy theories or the government problems or anything like that, he took me to all that stuff when I was a kid from the age of four up because that was the stuff he was interested in. And he found out that I could sit there and listen to everything that everybody said and like hitting record on a tape recorder, I could repeat back word for word everything that was said.

Speaker: So I didn't learn until later that that was really access, not memory. o okay But because I'm a cancer, July 7th birthday, um I just believed that it was the fact that I had emotional connections or emotional things to things, which is why I remembered everything.

Speaker: I didn't officially start doing this as a career until 25 years ago. So my mom passed, my computer business crashed, filed bankruptcy.

Speaker: My mother died all within three months of each other, three to six months of each other. And when all that happened, I went to talk to some grief counseling and I ended up in a metaphysical store looking around at some stuff, trying to get some information, got a connection with the owner of the place who also had a July 7th birthday, who actually recently passed in the past couple of months.

Speaker: But we were 30 years apart and I'm talking to him about some of my experiences and whatever else. And he's like, oh, you should join our meditation and psychometry class. you know I'm like, ah I've never been into much of that kind of stuff. of I always thought it was woo-woo crap.

Speaker: you know He's like, oh, okay. yeah I'm kind of interested in astrology and things like that. you know Something that has a real science to it. And he's like, well, we we teach stuff like that here too.

Speaker: So you might want to come back and whatever. well I ended up working on a bunch of computers for him at this place. which was a metaphysical school, as well as a for psychic development and things of that nature, as well as a place where readers were dead.

Speaker: So after I took a few classes in exchange for the computer work that I did, you know, every teacher was like, you already got all this. You you don't need need us for any of this. You could teach this class. You don't need me. this for whatever because when I did psychic development uh class which he taught he was like no you you got this when they took me to the tarot class and you know I'm but after what I laid out and they're like well I don't know where you get any of that I said I don't know the I looked at the cards and this is what came in my head you know isn't that the way it works and they're like yeah For people who've been doing this for 20 years, not people who are supposed to be just starting out in a 101 class. Oh, okay.

Speaker: So just more gifted. Yeah, well, it it was it was something that was with nima all my life. When I was a child child, I remember, you know, grandma's on the phone before the phone rings.

Speaker: Such and such is at the door before somebody knocks. You know, don't go down this road. there there's a There's a thing, you know, happening here. ah I told my parents stuff like that all the time when I was a kid, and I can actively remember that as a kid.

Speaker: I actively remember the first connection or the first memory connection I have of my primary guide, George, was sitting as a four or five-year-old watching Bugs Bunny cartoons.

Speaker: And while I'm sitting there watching the cartoons... um the station kept going in and out. This was back in the days of rabbit ears and black and white TVs. I'm with you. I got you. I'm sitting there and the station's not coming in clear. It's just kind of snow and wavy or whatever. and I'm like getting frustrated as a kid trying to get it to to come in clear.

Speaker: and George comes around to me and he says, I can show you how to fix that. I'm like, okay. so like You could see him or hear him? or Both. both both And he looked just as solid as everybody else.

Speaker: But he just graed people walked into the room and walked over by the television and told me to take my hands and put them apart. I'm like, okay. He says, now push them together and pull them apart and push them again and pull them apart. You feel that little energy? He says, you feel that little band of what's going on there? That little Like squeezing a balloon? I'm like, yeah.

Speaker: He's like, okay, so keep squeezing, keep moving them apart. And when you can't feel the balloon anymore, take it, move it to one hand and throw it at the TV with the intention of it cleaning up the signal.

Speaker: And I'm like, okay. So I did that and the TV tuned in and the Bugs Bunny cartoon came on. My parents came in one day, we're in the middle middle of rural Georgia.

Speaker: when this is happening. Okay, we're in Dallas, New Georgia, Dallas, Georgia area. um I was tuning in a television station from Tennessee

Speaker: that you shouldn't pick up unless you had a towel outside. Wouldn't be able to do that. Not on rabbit ears. So what was that phenomenon? Just like attracting energy or...

Speaker: He had told me that what I had done is boosted the energy for the signal, for the reception of the signal. And George is my primary guide. But the reason why i call him George is because the Bugs Bunny cartoon that I was watching is the one where the guy, um there's a giant and it's like, you know, Jack and the Beanstalk style giant that of the Bugs Bunny cartoon. And he's petting something and he's squishing the squirrel or whatever else. I will love him and put him in Cole and George.

Speaker: you know So he's sitting there and he's doing that and he's killing it and he's got a hold of Bugs Bunny and Bugs Bunny is about to be the next George who's going to get squished.

Speaker: So like my guide who is about 5'3", in a blue looking lame type of outfit, a shiny blue robe type outfit who is a Mayan prince.

Speaker: Okay. okay And um he tells me his name is Gatthehe. But I can't say Gatthehe. So I said, you're George. He says, okay, I'm George.

Speaker: So he's been George my whole life. Oh, we always want to name him, right? like let's ah But no, back when I was a kid, you know when we first went into school when I was six um and I was a kid, I thought everybody saw all this stuff.

Speaker: didn't think anything different of it. It wasn't until I went to an adult one day, a teacher, and told her that um I'm in first grade.

Speaker: We've got a teacher. my My first grade teacher's name is Mrs. Hooker. Mrs. Hooker is about eight and a half months pregnant or eight months pregnant or something. So she disappears after a while and we get a replacement substitute teacher. But instead of replacing the substitute teacher and that teacher continuing out the rest of the year, they give us a new substitute teacher every three or four days.

Speaker: oh So my little six year old self was going bananas about this. But one of the things that i remember is I'm sitting there with everybody with their imaginary friends going around and seeing all these different people and whatever else with all the kids who are in the class and The lady ends up having one. So there's a man who walks up to her and sits down over her he puts his hands on her shoulders.

Speaker: And I notice him and he notices that I notice him. So he asked me to come over. So I come over and I said, the man who's next to you says he's sorry he has to go, but that he loves you and that he hopes that you we'll be able to forgive him.

Speaker: And the the teacher lady is sitting here looking at me and she's going, what is going on? manen What are you talking about? And I'm like, he's right there. And I describe who I see.

Speaker: And she looks at me and she says, did you see me open my wallet? You know, this is back in the day when people carry pictures in their, in their wallets. Yeah. So that this is,

Speaker: like 1979, you know, so they're sitting there looking at that and, and she's, and I'm like, no I said, he's right there. And he says, he's sorry he had to go, but that he loves you.

Speaker: And, he wishes he'd been able to see you before this happened. And she's like, I don't know what's up with you little boy, but, uh, you shouldn't be playing with these imaginary friends and, and, and, because I started describing other people that I'm seeing around the room or whatever else. And she's just like, no, your parents need to talk to you about something to do with this. This is not what you're supposed to do.

Speaker: This is not how this works or whatever else. And I'm like, oh. So I go back to George. I go back to my seat and i go back to George and I'm like, she says I'm not supposed to do this. And I said, i don't want to be in trouble or whatever else. And he says, well, what want to do?

Speaker: I said, well, I don't want to see it. He's like, oh, you don't want to see it? Because that was the problem. was seeing it. okay So George is very literal. So he says, okay, you won't see us anymore.

Speaker: You won't see this anymore.

Speaker: And then poof, it's gone. From age six to 19, I didn't see things anymore. But just like a blind man, I still heard them. i still felt them.

Speaker: I still had smells and taste and everything. and All those other senses still came through. all the rest of my life, but because they were all internalized, I thought that everybody heard a musical in their head.

Speaker: I thought everybody had a little movie screen to the side of their face. I thought that everybody sensed and felt everybody else's emotions when they walked into a room. These are not conversations you have with people about things, so I just thought all that was normal.

Speaker: Well, it's interesting that you say that because I've had lots of conversations with people and it it usually starts with something like, I'm not crazy.

Speaker: I need to to like figure out if I'm crazy or not. You know what i mean? Like, but like they, a parent, a mom, a dad, or some other relative a grandparent will pass and they'll have something either in their dreams. That's incredibly vivid and, or like a hand on a shoulder, kind of how you described there was, I would imagine a relative had passed or was passing and was just kind of coming to say goodbye.

Speaker: um But I hear that all the time. I mean, that's one of the reasons why i you know kind of opened up in the way that I did was people have these experiences. They're just afraid to talk about them.

Speaker: Yeah. By the way, the teacher didn't show back up the next day and they told us it was because her father had passed. Okay. So I got validation from that, that I remember from you know that experience when I was a kid.

Speaker: Wow. Interesting. So when like receive guidance like that, what's the actual experience of knowing? Like what makes it qualitatively different from a thought um from your own mind? Okay. So initially when I was having communications with my guides, other than when I was a kid, the only difference between my mind voice and their voice was the personality.

Speaker: So George is very stoic and stoic. So everything matter of fact. So we all have different voices in our head that sound different. You know, some, let's give a sarcastic answer.

Speaker: Let's give a funny answer. Let's give a witty answer. Let's give an informational answer. Well, what people don't realize is those different personality aspects, that's your guides.

Speaker: That's their personality. You're just hearing it in that way because you haven't learned to tune it in full in frequency. Once I learned more tuning in to frequency, I noticed that not only did it have a personality difference, it had a a tone difference. I can tell you what George's voice sounds like because I hear George's voice. It's the same as I would hear James's voice.

Speaker: When I do readings now and I talk to you and I'm going to become you in order to ask the questions that I need to ask.

Speaker: It's like a Russian nesting doll. So I'm in the center doll. I take James and I put James's energy over my energy. Now, when I ask a question of my higher self of my guides and your guides, I'm talking to them as if I'm you.

Speaker: And I'm going to get an answer from your perspective. Okay. That is the channeling aspect of part of what I do. So that's a little bit different for the reading thing, but that kicked in when the mediumship part kicks in.

Speaker: So once I've taken your energy and put your energy over my energy, now any person you ask me about in your world, I'm getting it from your perspective and your guide's perspective, not from my perspective.

Speaker: does it make sense? Yeah. And so then how does it work for if you're talking to like a deceased loved one or something like that, or even, cause I'll ask about currently living people too.

Speaker: Yeah. The same thing. now um Now I'm doing the perspective from the point of view of from how they connected with you. So I feel the connection with you.

Speaker: Otherwise they're just another dead person. And, um, If I don't establish that type of connection first, then what I get is a series of images and things because they're playing charades.

Speaker: So they'll give me, think of it like, you know, the old file and cabinet and system and someone's going in and said, okay, I pull out this picture and it's a ruby red slippers. What does that mean to you?

Speaker: And you go shoes and they go, no, that wasn't what I was looking for. So they pull out another picture and they keep going and, pulling out pictures until they get us a word association that gets you to understand what you're talking about.

Speaker: After this happens for a matter of a couple of minutes for me, then there's a whole series of images that it now just becomes words. All the images now become words to me. So I hear them but now.

Speaker: Okay. Interesting. But you're not, i mean, you're just saying what's coming through you, right? Yes. But sometimes the concept of the idea of what they're trying to show me is not something I have a reference for. You know, it's something specific to a memory that happened for you. Right. And I give you, okay I'm at a lake.

Speaker: There's a house on the left-hand side. There's a barn on the right-hand side from that. Often that's this other little place where I used to play. And there's this little tree that has this little marking on it where someone put their signature in whatever in it is. You know, they gave me all those series of things and I tell the person literally what I get.

Speaker: And they're like, yeah, I know what you're talking about. That was at my grandmother's house and da, da, da, da. Used to go fishing with my grandfather in that lake. I carved my initials on that tree.

Speaker: And yes, the, the, had my first kiss with a girl in that barn, whatever. it just, it, They play out a a series of images that's a story. And what I learned after I started teaching this is everyone has a movie screen.

Speaker: So somewhere off in the periphery of your hate of your mind and in your actual vision, there is what I call the movie screen. So this gives you all of memories and it will play the memories.

Speaker: And that's the visualization that you get. So if that's a television show you watch, if that's a experience you had and it's a memory that's in your head, whatever, but you see that playing back to you like a little screen that's over here to the side.

Speaker: And that's clairvoyance. If a person can't have this happen, then they're not a clip they're not attuned to to clairvoyance. So when I did my first past pass life regression, um the hypnotherapist said, what are you?

Speaker: And I i saw was seeing very clearly kind of where I was in the world. I saw pyramids, although they looked different at the time.

Speaker: And then i didn't know what I was because I was like kind of looking out like who i was uh but then the word a word flashed very clearly in front of my head i'm like oh bedouin and it was like ah couldn't have like i would never have popped that into my head it just showed up in that image and i was like okay but that's clairvoyance what you're saying yeah

Speaker: But if it was just a word that popped into your head, but let's say you just heard the audio of it, not the not the visual or the video of it, then that's clairaudience. Mm-hmm.

Speaker: Yeah. Well, so I've had that too, and I wonder – I don't know. I mean, I think I've shared this with you before, but just when i was I was on a ferry in Bangladesh when I was in the Peace Corps and I was crossing the river and ah this terrible storm came and thought the boat was going to flip over and everyone screaming, crying.

Speaker: And I was about to jump and a voice came through. That was the first time I'd heard something like that forceful and like strong. Like, do not jump. This is not your time.

Speaker: And i didn't, even though mentally in my body was like, you need to get off of this boat before it sucks you in. and that was life-changing for me, but opened me up for later experiences, such as talking to you and in learning a little bit more about that.

Speaker: Right. So that would have been a guardian angel who said that to you. And a guardian angel is generally a person who who who died, who's a relative of yours who died before you were ever born.

Speaker: Okay. And they watch over us and they they do things like that. They'll push you out of the way when you're about to be involved in an accident or give you a message or something else of that nature. Your guides don't give you that because everything that's going on in your world that you're making choices and decisions by free will that your guides do, you're just supposed to play through.

Speaker: So unless you specifically ask them for help, they don't give you information or help or anything like that. But you do have a different division so to speak, who watches over you, who looks out for, this person's about to get in bodily harm and and an exit point they're not supposed to have.

Speaker: Hey. its Yeah. but Yeah, well, yeah. Right? And so we all, I guess that's, I don't know, metaphysically, like we we come in and maybe you can kind of unpack this for us, but we come into this world with something of a plan, but we do have free will, right?

Speaker: Yes. You have, um, an outline. So when I check on a person and i have access to the Akashic records, most of what I initially get is just like a line that shows like a timeline.

Speaker: And there's these various little dots. And each one of the little dots is a life event, you know, going to get married, going to have a kid, going to be in this health crisis, going to have this accident, whatever, all those things are already planned.

Speaker: All that stuff is already in line on there, but it's just an outline. you know And then all the fill-ins that comes into the day-to-day, that's stuff that you put in place. But there's sort of a background music that's saying, turn left here, go right there, interact with this person. All that still comes in place, so you still stay on your line. You still follow the the original plan that was in place, but you can deviate. you know I used to call it when people went to create their own ah shift or change, they'd still ultimately come back to the same place as where they were before. But it's like getting out into the Amazon and you pull out a machete and you start whacking away at the things and you're creating your own path and you deviate off for a while on that other path just to find out that later it curves back around the same place you were. You might have went 10 feet from where you were before, but you went around the path, but the it the universe always self-corrects. It always brings you back to where you're intended to do from that original path.

Speaker: When I um was talking with Daryl Anka, who channeled Bashar, he was he was making a point. He's like, you're never not on your path, no matter what you do.

Speaker: like You are always on your path. It's a question that comes up all the time, right? And i I'm sure I've asked it million times. Like, am I doing the right thing? am I on the path that I'm supposed to be on? And the answer is yes.

Speaker: yes Yeah, there's no way you can't be. Yeah. we come in we have ah guardian angel, and do most people have one or multiple guides? And does that change throughout our life?

Speaker: um I've seen the average person have three. Some people who have more of a a certain defined mission or whatever that's going on, they'll have four or five.

Speaker: And that doesn't include if you add in hot healing guides, such as Reiki guides, ascended masters, other things like that. There's all sorts of other different ones that come in division based off of what it is, because they bring a certain set of skills.

Speaker: Each person that you have has a certain set of skills and can work with you. You have one primary guide, but They can change position of who's in charge now.

Speaker: This is not the primary guide I need for this particular point in my life. This what I need for this. So it changes in cooperation with that. But the average person that I've read for has two to three.

Speaker: Most of the ones that I've had, had three and every once in a while, four. If a person has four, that means they have a certain mission or thing that they're trying to get through in this particular lifetime.

Speaker: that requires extra assistance.

Speaker: But you only get one guardian angel. So everybody only has one guardian angel who, like I said, is usually a ah deceased loved one who you usually never even met.

Speaker: So like, say there's a grandfather who you didn't know or a great uncle or great aunt or something else of that nature. um They're usually part of your same bloodline and then they're in cooperation with that. Then there's other angel angels and archangels and and other phylums of other things that are out there as well, ascended masters.

Speaker: And then for pretty much everything you you get taught or attuned to, there's something else that you can have that comes along with you. I've had people who I've worked on as well as people I've worked with And they they bring 40, 50 in their crew and you're just like, oh my God, this room is so full of people. What is this supposed to be? These are all these different spirits that are here to help. Oh, okay, great. Oh, interesting.

Speaker: So how much power do our choices, beliefs, attention and actions actually have to alter what, you know, we perceive on our timeline or how does that,

Speaker: ah interplay and maybe you can even weave it in with your class, right? Like how to script your life, what, you know, things that you teach people, which, you know, I've benefited from.

Speaker: Every, okay. So one of the things I learned to study ah initially was astrology. And the reason why I wanted to study astrology is because astrology gives you a blueprint of what your soul intention was.

Speaker: Okay, so then after, you this is how you should be, quote unquote. James is going to be this height ah based off of what he picked for his parents for this.

Speaker: He's going to be this way because of the name that he picked. He's going to be this way because the date of the birth that he picked. He's going to be this way because he's going to have ah you know, more psychic influence because of all these positive aspects to Neptune, da-da-da-da-da.

Speaker: So it tells all that as a nice little blueprint of your personality and your origination of what your abilities are. Then life happens. And your parents feed you a bunch of bullshit. Society feeds you a bunch of bullshit. We get programmed. Whatever gets gets thrown in there and all those different programmings that that get part of what comes in interferes with that pattern.

Speaker: you can always get back to that original pattern. And if you get back to that original pattern, the universe will help you in any way, shape or form to correct, to move things back into that position. So yes, you still have a lot of leeway as far as what you can do in your world, especially when you learn to be more of a higher signal, a higher vibration, and you encompass more of your soul in this particular life, then you have more ability as far as changing things. But the catch-22 is the more you surrender, the more you get.

Speaker: So instead of trying to control everything in order to get what you're looking for, the more in flow you are, the more the idea of what you ask for will come to you.

Speaker: So it's sort of a backwards process from what people would think. Oh, i'll just this with I'll think I'm going to win the lottery and I'll win the lottery. Nope. But if you set yourself in a mindset of being ah available to receive and you're able to receive any certain amount of money or whatever thing that you're looking for, then you get to that frequency and you get what you asked for.

Speaker: So that still works out what you say and what you're looking for. But again, it still has to be something that's on your path. Funnily enough, the I've only known three people who won the lottery.

Speaker: Every one them I knew was going to win the lottery because it was already in their path. It was already as part of the the created a thing that they had. Nobody had a good time.

Speaker: For all of them, it sucked. With the exception of one that I knew who worked for my father, a lady named Donna and she won 20 her and her husband won $22 million dollars in the Florida lottery before the Georgia lottery came into place and they split it with somebody else. So they got 20 million and somebody else got 20 million.

Speaker: And, um, the husband had already pissed away $5 million dollars in the first three years. And they were behind on how much money they were going to get. Some of the money was going to then go to the banks because the banks will give you money when they know you're going to get money from an annuity. that's going to pay to you every year. so they would let you go into debt.

Speaker: So they were already in debt by five years and he was already a piece of work to start with. And it was a, it was a horrible crash and burn the whole way through in that relationship. But she managed to get a landmark decision where they gave her part of the lottery winnings every year afterwards in the divorce.

Speaker: So that was, the that that was the best win she got out of it. Be careful what you ask for. Yeah. You just might get it. And that's kind of the whole thing um really behind my new, new book magnetic selecting, um which is a result of work that I have also learned from you and your classes and things that you have taught me over the years.

Speaker: um But maybe you could speak to just how that interplay happens between Choosing a direction you know that you want your life to go, directing it, writing it, scripting it, and how that how you've seen that come out in your own life too, maybe.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Let's talk about the bad side first. Because everything contains both. A positive and an negative and in aspect to it. Because a lot of times when people are asking for things, they're not paying attention to how it's going to be delivered or how it's going to play out. so relationships, everybody in the world would come to me initially and I want to be in this great relationship and I want it to be this person who's going to be so attentive with me and be loving and caring and want to do everything with me and dah, dah, dah, dah. And I'm like, that's what you want. Yeah.

Speaker: And I used to play like I was the genie in the lamp. Okay, yeah here's here's what you got to do in order to get that. So I'd tell them some of the processes and procedures of things that they could eliminate in their belief systems and attract what they say they wanted to attract.

Speaker: And they would get it. Most women do not want a man who follows them around like a little puppy dog and is constantly up their butt. on a regular and consistent basis, even though that's what they think they want. That is not what they want.

Speaker: So they get it and then they realize, okay, this was not it. i can I can't stand this. This person's smothering me. This person's this and that and the other. So yeah. So people have to be mindful in that. But it's the same thing as what we're talking about with winning the lottery. You know you would think that you would want something that would make that better.

Speaker: I personally had a business that was doing well And I had wanted it to continue to grow and to do well. And it did. and it kept growing and I kept getting more employees and I kept getting more responsibilities and more things and more money was coming in. The next thing you know, i'm a millionaire and bla bla blah, blah, blah, blah. But it all exploded and crashed and burned overnight, you know, when the industry changed. And it was what I said I wanted, but I didn't think of any of the consequences. You don't think of the idea of being responsible.

Speaker: Yeah, you're just responsible for yourself when you have a job or then you get married and you're responsible for yourself and the other person and you're responsible for the kids. Now you're responsible when you have a business for all of the people who you're employing and all the dependents that they have.

Speaker: And all of that energy is ki is constantly hitting you. On a regular basis. And if you're not prepared. For what that feels like. And at 26 years old. I definitely was not prepared. For what that felt like. Yeah.

Speaker: I was just having fun. And it was the idea that I was keeping my vibration high. And just having fun. That I rode the wave of when it went up. And when it went down. And most people. If they understood that.

Speaker: They would want things. To go up in steps. instead of leaps. Because everything that that comes in that is like a pendulum swinging.

Speaker: It's gotta go as far back this way as it goes back that way. It has to have that same way of shifting things. So in relationships, right? Like, you know, going through a divorce or, you know, different things, it's like you, there is that pendulum, right? Like, I want this. And then you get it and you're like, ah, you know, there there's something missing or it's not right. Or, you know, there's other stuff going on or this person is narcissistic or something else. And then you you get the next thing.

Speaker: what But relationships are showing us a mirror, right? Like of things that we are... like what How do you describe like the essence of relationships? What is the purpose of them in in that?

Speaker: It's a common manifestation thing. Yeah, the the the two men two types of relationships in my world of what I've learned and to understand. There's growth, which comes as growth through pain, karma, and then there's evolution.

Speaker: okay Most people have karmic contracts with different souls that they agreed to play a role at. But let's say your your agreement says you want to learn unconditional love.

Speaker: Okay? You want to learn forgiveness. Well, you want to learn forgiveness, you got to have somebody to forgive, which means somebody is going to fuck you over. It's going to have to hurt you. You're going to go through pain.

Speaker: By design. So you bring this person in to you to trust just for them to screw you over so you learn forgiveness. Okay?

Speaker: Should you really be mad at that person? They just fulfilled the role. They just did what you asked them to do. If this is just a play, if this is just a movie, then they just you know got together and put on the character that you asked them to be. This soul hasn't got any harm intended to you, and you don't have any harm intended to it, but they love and care you enough for you enough to play that role of that person who just killed you, just surrendered, yeah just...

Speaker: Screwed you over. Did whatever. And that's another one of those things that's funny that I learned from some of my others. No one can harm anyone, physically harm anyone without a contract.

Speaker: That has to be in place for that too. There's no way you can't be hurt by, killed by, in any way, shape, or form, maimed not emotional wise, we're talking physical stuff, but anyone else unless there's a set up agreement where you say that that can happen.

Speaker: All right. But if you have that contract, can you decide in the moment in this life to change it? Yes, you can. But you're not just like what Bashar says.

Speaker: You're not changing the contract. You're changing the world. So you shift into another world where that reality is stating a new thing. You change shows.

Speaker: You change channels. I'm in the middle of you know this rocket movie, whatever thing, and now I want to change. Instead of being an astronaut, I'm going to be a race car driver. Okay. We switched.

Speaker: It's hard to comprehend that, but yeah, it's this reality is here. This is reality here, and and you are just constantly moving around. Yes.

Speaker: Every thought that you're having is readjusting the world you're in. And the only way to be able to recognize that because we don't, we see everything from our own perspective and our own bubble and our own situation. The only way that I've ever noticed the change other than the actual timeline jumps, like the whole world changes or the whole, whatever around us changes, community of changes around it. The only way to notice it in specifics for each person is go through and have conversations about stuff. It's like, Hey, you remember we did this?

Speaker: No. They don't remember. They remember in a completely different situation, different conversation, different whatever. And you're like, oh, that's just someone selective hearing, whatever this net, the other. No, I have literally went back and recorded things and went to play back the recording and the recording is different from what the other person remembers. And then they're coming back. No, I swear, that's not the same thing. And what I call what I do is having access So I will literally go back and rewind some scenarios in my head. It's like, no, this was like this. And now it's like this.

Speaker: i had one that just happened the other day. i had a client who had booked a a session that was in person and it was for the next day. And I'm like, oh, I'm dealing with some stuff or whatever else that I need to clean up.

Speaker: I'm not really available for that. And I went to bed that night and I said, well, I'll just have to deal with it in the morning because it was like at one or two in the afternoon.

Speaker: I get up the next morning. It's booked from a week from tomorrow, not to tomorrow. And I'm like, oh, okay. ah And you're like, did I look at the date wrong?

Speaker: No, I changed the manifestation. That wasn't working for me. i needed it to be different. So it shifted it. mean, I've had some experiences that, well, I've had a number of experiences, i suppose, but just like where I might be like reading a book or listening to a book.

Speaker: And I will be like, I've definitely like, I know this book, like I've read this book before. i don't remember reading it, but like, I can tell you what's going to happen next. Like, I totally remember this.

Speaker: Like, is that like the related to the Mandela effect? You know, like the whole fruit of the loom thing gets me personally. Cause I'm like, there was definitely a cornucopia in that logo. And now they're like, no, it never existed. I'm like, you, there's no way and you cannot convince me otherwise.

Speaker: Right. No, and I remember the other reality you're talking about as well. And some of it is the same as deja vu. I believe deja vu is a a reset point.

Speaker: So like you like when you used to play a video game and you save it and a thing, oh, I'm about to go off and do this and I'm worried I'm not going to make it through this next level. so I'm going to save the game here at this point.

Speaker: This is my restore point. And then when i die later on down the thing, i can just go back to this restore point and then continue back on the on the game again. it's another It's another try. It's another attempt.

Speaker: You remember those? Yeah. Okay. Life has that same thing built into it. So a lot of times when we're having deja v vu or circumstances like you're talking about where you remember something, it's because you played this out already.

Speaker: you're You're at another restore point from where you were before. Yeah, the at the one time, now I've heard other people share sending stories where they're you know like traveling in Rome or they're walking down the street and then they get flashbacks and this whole scene plays out.

Speaker: I had something similar to that happened to me in Vietnam. And I brought up to you like a past life where I'm like, but that was the first time when I was physically walking, I think it was on like Aesan, the airport there.

Speaker: I've been destroyed in a battle, but I was like this, like the feeling that I got being there was crazy. Like it's hard to articulate, but just like this feels incredibly familiar. Yeah.

Speaker: Energy signatures that come in cooperation with that. The first time I ever visited New Orleans, I could literally stop where I was and said, okay, we're going to turn around this corner. There's going to be this building. There's this church. There's this thing. There's that.

Speaker: Everything I described before I went around the corner was there exactly as I said it was there. But the church said that this was on the spot of where the church had been. But now this other structure had been built.

Speaker: But that church burned down in 1864. Things like that. what Yeah. around No, it's fascinating. I mean, like...

Speaker: And I guess the other aspects of time, right? Like past lives, not necessarily leading past lives. I know you have described that as being just different channels. They're all playing at the same time.

Speaker: Right. This is just a point of perception. So you, the person who has the remote control have decided that this is the program I'm playing the life of James Oneo in this date, whatever.

Speaker: on this date whatever That's what you're doing is you're viewing that in front in front of you that's playing out like in a holographic chamber. And this is what you've chosen to do. And you go to bed at night and you change channels as many times as you want to visit other points of perception, which is why you have dreams that sometimes make sense, sometimes don't make sense, is because you're just interpreting.

Speaker: what it was when you visited those other points and when you interacted with souls that were similar to the souls that you had had interacted with before. Yeah, yeah it's all fascinating.

Speaker: um All right. Can we get little bit galactic now? Sure. All right. So several years ago, well I've seen a number of different you know phenomena, UFOs, UAPs.

Speaker: um

Speaker: At one point in our conversations, you brought up Star Wars. And I was like, what? This is somehow channeled material over a real event. It might be the Orion Wars. Is that correct? susan and so And I know a lot of people that I talked to can relate to.

Speaker: do the specific things or past wounds that have come of the, that period of time or what we call time. um But what is kind of your perception of what is, i don't know, in the history of our evolution, if you will, where we come from, kind of how things have shifted, you know, to where they are now and kind of where we're going now,

Speaker: with you know our consciousness and um with the whole disclosure process or whatever you want to call that? That was a big question.

Speaker: Yeah. um

Speaker: There are lots of civilizations that exist and have existed. Again, there's no real time frame to go in this. They're different channels. And there's so much... to the point of different channels that for us to perceive them and to understand them, you understand them as different frequencies.

Speaker: And when you understand different frequencies, that equals different densities, and which also equals different dimensions. So for every dimension that exists, there's a different level of density. And for every level of density that exists, every dimension that has has it happen has its each other's version of density.

Speaker: So most of what people consider aliens and alien worlds are simply things on a higher frequency bandwidth. So AM radio, FM radio, XM radio.

Speaker: The aliens are just XM radio. They still exist at the same time. The signals are still existing all in the same frame. But the difference is what we can tune into is what we're accessing and what's showing us that.

Speaker: We are now shifting at the planet, the physical planet Earth, frequency is changing and as it is changing but we the souls and the fleas that are on the dog are changing with it which means our perception is going to change so we're going to see all this stuff that's always been there but we weren't able to see it because it was invisible to us because it was a different frequency okay yeah it's interesting when i

Speaker: I don't know. I was fortunate, I think, when I had sort of my sighting um that I was with other people, so it didn't feel weird to me. Like, oh, I've seen it. But I've also interviewed a lot of people who are standing next to someone, and they're like, how do you not see this gigantic spaceship right in front of us? And the person next to Because that person turned different frequency.

Speaker: Yeah, they're like, i don't see anything. And they're like, I don't know... It's just mind-boggling. I've had the experience several times myself personally on airplanes. So be look out the window on an airplane and see a ship just as plain as day fly by and I'm looking over and I'm like, ain't nobody else seeing this that I'm seeing that's sitting out here. And I've even had visions, dreams, meditation, whatever you want to call it, where I've literally had it to where i look up into the sky and everywhere you look,

Speaker: thousands of them are all over the place. And I know that's how it's going to play out. But then when I asked my guides and in regards to it, they're like, oh no, that's happening now. The difference is people will be able to see it later on. So it's not going to be all of a sudden these things appear everywhere.

Speaker: They're already there. The difference is we're going to have shifted enough of our vibrational frequency on the planet itself that even the person who is at the lowest vibration who hasn't shifted themselves accordingly is going to see it too.

Speaker: But initially it's going to be us in dreams. It's going to be us who are working on a little bit higher vibration, who are going to see the, the higher vibration. It's not different than the spectrums of light, you know, and how they're divided in different vibrations.

Speaker: There are some people who are colorblind. They're not considered people who are behind. They're just, tuned into a different frequency in the way that they see things. This is the same thing.

Speaker: Yeah. go in So as a psychotherapist, i'm you know obviously I've heard people share things with me.

Speaker: um I've spoken with Mary Rodwell and some other, you know Barbara Lamb, pretty prominent hypnotherapist in that space. um but they they're just kind of telling the truth and they're like, all right, we need to kind of prepare people for these things. But what advice would you give to maybe therapists or other people? Because even Dr. Phil, the TV guy, started to talk about...

Speaker: you know what's going on in this this whole thing. And so it's be it's in the zeitgeist. Like there's articles being written by psychologists in Psychology Today, among other places.

Speaker: um What do people, regular people need to know that maybe aren't as familiar or specific to therapists who work with people that are starting to to see this phenomenon?

Speaker: I mean, as the shift is occurring, everyone is going, I mean, that that's the difference is this is not deniable anymore. This is not some crazy Yahoo who's out in the trailer park in the middle of nowhere who happened to be drinking all night and shoot it shot his gun up and then saw something weird.

Speaker: The energy fluctuation that's happening is to where everyone is seeing everything and everyone is preparing to see everything. That's the reason why the government is coming out and going, we don't ever want to tell any people we've had contact with aliens and they've given us technology and any of the rest of that kind of stuff. Nobody wants to have any of that. Think of how much it's going to blow up things to do with religion and and everything to do with people's belief systems. You know, all of a sudden, all these things are introduced and they say, well, hey, we're part of what helped you become a human. You know, we genetically modified you to become what you are today. And the fact that you're able to think the way you do and interact the way you do is based off of what we've given to you.

Speaker: That's going to blow all sorts of people's worlds and they're going to do their best as they have over the past hundred years to insulate people from the idea that it's not happening.

Speaker: We'll just keep turning your your your head away and we'll pretend like it's not happening. But it's going to be so so in your face you don't have a choice but to to experience that it's happening. And most people who like you said, healers and in that nature, psychiatrists, psychologists, and things like that, are going to have a lot of people who are going to sitting there having to deal with their stuff.

Speaker: But a lot of them already are. They have been for years. the Yeah. So I just think all those people who've been doing the work for years are now going to have to turn around and help all the rest of the people who feel lost.

Speaker: Yeah, I mean, there's normalizing the topic and and not being afraid of things. I know some of the the criticism I get is, you know, that I am somehow espousing some demonic kind of thing. Like, I'm not being prepared. Like, these are demons that are going to come and take over the world. And I have a very different opinion on that. And there's going to be plenty of people are going to get caught up in that idea. And there's going be more people who are going to be looking for help than there is the others.

Speaker: But there's also something that we didn't cover and in this particular topic. But there also is a split that is going to occur in reality. There is a vibrational split that will happen where if you're not of a certain level of awareness, a certain level of vibration, you're still going to live in that world where there is none of this going on.

Speaker: There is still going to be those people who are going to live in that world. And this world will float off on its own. where everybody is slowly integrating and slowly getting into that, there's still going to be people who are going to be living in another world, just like we talked about, a different channel that has that lower vibration and a lower frequency, who are slowly working themselves into an imploded hell in comparison to what we're creating on this other side. But that's a choice. That's the soul's choice of what it wants to play out.

Speaker: what is What will that practically look like? I know sometimes people ask me this and I'm like, I'm not entirely sure. Bashar has given the example of being on a you know at a train station and you're on a train and you know other people on another train and you can see each other for a period of time, but eventually you just you lose sight of that. They're just kind of in there. Right. And it's not much different than what you talked about where you have five people standing and looking up One person sees the spaceship and the other four don't.

Speaker: It's no different than that. and So initially, the the it's going to feel like that. It's going to be there. Everybody said, can't deny that, man. It's sitting right there.

Speaker: What's sitting there? But that's no different than the first time Native American Indians ever came up and these people are coming up on a ship, on a giant ship. in comparison with, they didn't see a ship.

Speaker: They didn't see it because it wasn't something that was part of their world. It wasn't part of the idea of what they thought about. So to them, it could have just been all of a sudden these people appeared, you know, because they didn't have the concept in their head of what this was, so it can't exist in their world.

Speaker: So it's still going to be that as far as the way that it shifts, but eventually, yes, it will be a complete split of, um

Speaker: you remember the cartoons, the Flintstones and the Jetsons? Yeah. So you're going to have something that's going to look sort of like that. Because I keep hearing people over and over again talk about if you follow the path of technology, technology is the great evil or the great whatever, this and that in the other. But no, it's all in the way that it's being used.

Speaker: There are both aspects that come in cooperation. But there are other people who are the naturalists and the naturists who say AI is the negative, you know technology is the negative, all this other stuff. But if someone comes in and shows us that we can correct any physical problem that we have just by realigning our auric field, our energy field around us, where's the bad news in that? You can live 300, 500 years and never get sick?

Speaker: so yeah what are the So what are the benefits that people might might be helpful to maybe hear about? Like, what do you foresee happening along those lines of like medical, you know, progress, I guess?

Speaker: I've had instances of things that I've gotten from my Arcturian guides, which show similar things to like, you know, a Samsung ring or an aura ring or a bracelet or something of that nature. that you wear as a medical device, and it literally taps into, collects the data and understands what's going on in your body. And every time there's a disruption in your body, in your auric field, it corrects the the disruption in the auric field, which then realigns the body, which then takes away any healing that would be necessary. All diseases is cured from that.

Speaker: And then I've seen technology of what I call Arcturian Healing Chamber, which is a med bed style thing with a with a top over it.

Speaker: And the guys will go in and they'll literally find disturbances of memories and problems and things that you're holding on to from trauma that you had and literally go in there and they don't wipe it out.

Speaker: but they change and dilute the the connection, the the connection that is causing the physical trauma part. Doing things like that is definitely along the lines of what I see as far as technology stuff that will shift and change. And the idea that people would ever do anything for anything other than for positive humanitarian growth.

Speaker: Will we get there tomorrow? No. No, it will take time and you know integration and everything else before that happens. But initially, you're going to have people in shock. But I think that's better than constantly fighting each other over what your belief systems it is or over money or over land or over any of those other things and resources.

Speaker: If you have unlimited resources, if you have unlimited understanding of things and nobody's God is better than the other person's God or anything to do with that, that it's all part of the same thing, you know all that changes. I mean, the the idea of the entire Hindu religion, you know the way it was described and told to me, was based off of some aliens that came and landed and were teaching some philosophies to some humans.

Speaker: And found it in a book. That was the funniest. Yeah, that was the funniest thing when you said that to me at one point, where it's like, you ever notice how their gods are blue? And I'm like, yeah.

Speaker: Why is that? It's like, well, what do you think? fuck Oh my god. It makes so much sense. And they talk about the Vamanas, the flying machines, and everything else.

Speaker: well They wrote it out and they told everybody. and If you talk to, you know, depending on which sect version of a A perfect person of a Hindu belief system depends on what they come out at. And they're like, oh, yeah, yeah. but This is more true for me than this is true for me.

Speaker: But I've never met an Indian person or a hindu religious person who was ever mean. So there's got to be something right on there somewhere. but I mean, it's it is Utterly fascinating how things evolved right from that into where we are now yeah and where it's all going. What is the most kind of interesting thing that you're seeing in, the you know, in the world now? Or what has your attention that you're kind of keeping an eye on?

Speaker: I think when we shifted to the idea of where people were listening to influencers and people who were just looking for fame and notoriety and everything like that, I think we've changed or the world is changing from that to being more to where people are listening to people who have real ideas are giving real concepts and real understandings, both in spiritual worlds as well as in the regular worlds of interaction.

Speaker: I think that is what it's shifting to. I think the idea of sensationalism or you are caught in up in somebody just because of popularity or things like that, I think all of that's going away. I think the idea of even what we consider sports and entertainment and everything to do with that,

Speaker: I don't think any of that's gonna have the higher level things that it has anymore. I even have clients who are in the entertainment industry where everything keeps changing because of AI. It's like, well, if I've got scans of of the person and I've got their voice and I've got their image and I've got their whatever, i don't need to build a set and do a a filming of a thing with an actor. And isn't it, i can do all that from all the data that I already had before.

Speaker: throw it all together, and there's the movie. So, end of movie industry right there. End of notoriety or whatever else for an actor who's known for something.

Speaker: They don't need it. All they need is permission for their likeness. Sooner or later, they won't even need that.

Speaker: Well, that could be scary. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of uncertainty. um What would you say to someone who is in Well, know you know people in that business, but like, okay what what would you say to someone like that, you know, as seeing those things coming down the pipeline, what can they do about it to but live their life in a positive way? You're going to change and upgrade your perspective of something else that you're going to because it's no different than, you know, 10, 15 years ago, there were the guys who were in the auto field

Speaker: who literally help build um the different cars and everything else over the progression from 20 years to now, there aren't any people who are on assembly lines building cars anymore. That doesn't happen anymore.

Speaker: There's one or two robots who observe while the robots do all the work. yeah So it used to be that that was an industry that that was done in that way. The robots and the things that we're working in and the AI that we have pretty soon you know they're They're already delivering your food.

Speaker: They'll be making your food. They'll be cleaning your house. They'll be doing all your other different kinds of service stuff that nobody else wants to do, that everybody else has a job. If that's your job, your job is gone.

Speaker: but for i have a friend, Ben Symes, he does work with the channel panel. But you know one of the things that we talked about was you know Along those lines of that change happening,

Speaker: you know that you know there has to be some kind of benevolence to the shift. It can't be like everyone that works in this industry is now unemployed and has no money and is just destitute. right It's like the shift has to encompass a lot of compassion and adaptability.

Speaker: Would you agree? Well, yes, but all these people saw the writing on the wall long before it came into existence. It wasn't like that that that happened. We had a writer's strike and several other things that happened in the movie industry years ago because they already knew AI was going to come in and start taking over all this stuff.

Speaker: They already knew all that was happening. They already knew they would eliminate the idea of needing to build sets and to do things like that. All that stuff could be done via a computer. They already knew all that stuff was coming in play. So they've had 10 plus years to get you ready for all this stuff. So it's not like, but there are people who just hidden, put their head in the sand.

Speaker: Okay. So what advice would you give to those people like facing that now that are maybe like just paying attention to this for the first time? Like, okay, I'm going have to like do something about this.

Speaker: If they didn't do any kind of investing or anything else that would take care of themselves, then you just reinvent yourself and do something else. I mean, you've been around movies your entire life and building things.

Speaker: Maybe it's time that you worked a little bit more in the idea of sharing those experiences. You know, those are going to be some of the writers and things like that. Because computers and AI can write all sorts of interesting things, but it doesn't have any feeling to it.

Speaker: And most people, as long as it still doesn't have any feeling to it, aren't going to connect with it. Personally, myself in the psychic world, I've had a number of clients and friends who are writers.

Speaker: I can tell when a text has been changed. When someone has had someone who edited their book, and let's say it's a female writer, and I hear a male voice as I'm reading the the page, and I'm like, don't know.

Speaker: Did this get changed here? Yes, what was it originally there? Because it changes the feeling. It changes the vibe. And just because I'm aware of it at that level doesn't mean that everybody's not aware of it when they read it, connect to it or whatever else. It's the same with songs. It's the same with anything like that. There's still a vibe and a feel that everything has that people are still going to want in some form or fashion.

Speaker: So some of that is still going to play through. I still think all of the the industries are going to change with that and when that stuff is going to be put into place. But I still think that the other overall feeling part is going to be something that people are still going to want and gravitate back towards. So it's going to have both sides of the the spectrum for a while. So there'll still be independent films and things that are made up that aren't that. It's no different than you watching a cartoon versus you watching live action. There's different things that you want at different points.

Speaker: Well, what, you know, What do you think generally like people need more guidance or do we need to become better at listening to what we already know?

Speaker: Yeah, people are listening. It doesn't matter what guidance is out there. i don't I don't think that that helps but because you can put there's tons and tons and tons of information. i mean, just in our lifetime alone, think of what the metaphysical world look like. You used to be you went into a bookstore or a library.

Speaker: but There was maybe a shelf with like a little bit of books on it versus now there's literally you go into what few bookstores and things of that neighborhood that are still available.

Speaker: And there's 10 or 15 or 20, you know, shelves worth of information to do with spirituality, to do with self-help, to do with all those other things.

Speaker: there's and And if you go back and you read most of this stuff, it's all saying the same thing. It just says it in a different way. It just presents it to and a different audience. So there's very much that's, I don't think we have a lack of data.

Speaker: I think you have a lack of listening and a lack of people who want to actively participate and change things and their life. Because change seems to be the thing that most humans don't like. They do not want to go through change.

Speaker: Yeah, they resist it for sure. They'll do almost anything to avoid it. Yeah. Yeah, and since to get back to what we were just talking about, you know things are changing rapidly. and The pace is is kind of dizzying, really. It's hard.

Speaker: But that's what it takes sometimes in order for things to happen. know A lot of people won't be won't change unless they're forced to change. you know You talk about those people who we should feel bad about for whatever to do in the industry, but they needed to change. They knew they needed to change.

Speaker: Now they're going to be forced to change.

Speaker: Yeah, I think there is a moment, at least I've noticed it in my life, where it's like, you know what, I need i need to do something. And what ends up happening if if I didn't is that something else would happen that made that shift happen.

Speaker: yeah And usually it was painful. Yeah, growth through change. I mean, growth through pain. Growth through pain, growth made yes.

Speaker: yeah And you can either choose growth through pain or you can choose evolution. I think enough people will come to a higher awareness, a higher vibration, and a higher understanding, and then they'll teach the other people to come along with and say, hey, you can go through this experience the hard way, or you can listen to a part of what I'm telling you, and you can shift things in your world and make it a little easier.

Speaker: And the more people who show that up, the more people who will listen and will go along with it, but you're still going to have plenty of people who want to do it the hard way.

Speaker: Well, I think that'll keep me in business. For sure. for sure. oh Arthur, what is the one last piece of advice that you might share with people and that would be helpful for them to know? Pay attention to what your motivations are in things.

Speaker: In relationships, in business, in any connections you have to anybody. Pay attention to what your motivations are. What are you looking for from that person? Are you coming to a space where you just want to be right?

Speaker: are you coming to a space where you want understanding and love and connection? Because most people are not really paying attention to where they're coming from when they do things. And if they just stopped and looked at things for a minute and saw that there was a difference in that,

Speaker: you would change how you approach things. Most of the reason why we get caught up in our ego and the ego is a bad thing is only because you're not paying attention. You're just sitting there doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting to get different results, that old definition of definition of insanity, you know? And there are so many people that that's what they do, that they could really have their world give them what they want and what they desire and what they choose,

Speaker: They just put a little bit of awareness on it. the Yeah. Being intentional about what they're trying to do. and what And the motivation of why they're doing it.

Speaker: Yeah. um Arthur, what, tell us where can people find you? How can they work with you? What do you got going on that you want to share? Okay. Listening to wisdom.com is my website.

Speaker: You can pretty much book anything that you want from there. i do work out of Maryland in Germantown but for in-person stuff, but I also do things online.

Speaker: I do things on Zoom, phone readings, and things of that nature, as well as different kinds of energy work. And right now i'm teaching a couple of different classes. Tuesday nights, 7 p.m. Eastern, we're doing psychic development circles every Tuesday.

Speaker: And Thursday is a evolving class that you and several others have been and invited to and working with, which is pretty much helping people through their human evolution into being more of their truer selves.

Speaker: Yeah, trying to steer away from the pain part. Right. Well, you have a lot of really great reviews on Google. you You're incredibly talented, and ah you know I certainly appreciate you sharing your wisdom with me over the years and now with everyone else that's going to watch this.

Speaker: Thank you, James. I appreciate you.

Speaker: We don't run from the dark night. We walk through it together all the way to the morning. That's Dark Knight Alchemy every week on Substack. And when you're ready to make your own world for real, I'm right here at jamesonealguide.com.

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