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Moving Towards Better - Episode 8 - MTB Challenge Round Two

Moving Towards Better
Moving Towards Better

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Chris Minnick: And we are live here in the...

Chris Penick: We're live. All right.

Chris Minnick: virtual moving towards better studio with

Chris Penick: We have a studio. Weird.

Chris Minnick: Yes, the virtual studio with Chris Minnick, aka a .a.

Chris Penick: A virtual studio. Woo!

Chris Minnick: Sea Money.

Chris Penick: that.

Chris Minnick: He's the guy who wrote all those books you love.

Chris Penick: Or maybe he's over there. Yeah, go get them, buy them. I...

Chris Minnick: Yes, and...

Chris Penick: Yeah. And. Chris Pennick, aka...

Chris Minnick: My fabulous co -host. Yes.

Chris Penick: DJ Crispy. Because maybe I wanted to be a DJ or something. Who knows?

Chris Minnick: Right on.

Chris Penick: But, you know, we we never ever discussed the ideas of why.

Chris Minnick: Yeah, and those those dance moves, the scratching he does.

Chris Penick: So.

Chris Minnick: You guys got to see this.

Chris Penick: it's It's all that wicka wicka wicka. See, look at that.

Chris Minnick: Yes.

Chris Penick: I'm awesome, man. I just made a whole new career Right there.

Chris Minnick: That's amazing.

Chris Penick: That's it.

Chris Minnick: Alright.

Chris Penick: That's amazing.

Chris Minnick: Today, finally, you have been waiting for this moment for over a month, and we promised you it would be less than a month. but You've been waiting for this moment. We are going to do our follow -up on the Moving Towards Better Challenge. The first...

Chris Minnick: of many. moving towards better challenges.

Chris Penick: Yeah. he

Chris Minnick: And we're going to recap what we. challenged each other. And we're going to talk about what the rules are. Once again, I'll remind you of the rules. And then we will get into demonstrating our fabulous new skills.

Chris Penick: here so we can

Chris Minnick: So before that.

Chris Penick: who

Chris Minnick: Uh... Hmm. Chris, would you like to talk about what I challenged you to do? Don't demonstrate your fabulous new skills yet

Chris Penick: Not yet, not yet okay all right i won't demonstrate yet so I was challenged to spin a basketball. Upon. Said finger upon my finger right here Vroom.

Chris Minnick: there was there was no yeah there's no requirement for which finger but

Chris Penick: Yes, there was no requirement. It could be could be any. Finger.

Chris Minnick: Mhm. huh

Chris Penick: will But, you know, that that was very specific. um And so... I have... ah been working and now i don't know how you can hear air quotes but there are air quotes there Peace.

Chris Minnick: Yes.

Chris Penick: That's good. That's a good sound effect. See, we we spare no expense on the special effects budget.

Chris Minnick: Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Penick: um But I have been working. on this And I am eager to show you. where I'm at.

Chris Minnick: I... I'm eager to see it

Chris Penick: Yeah, okay.

Chris Minnick: Yes. Um,

Chris Penick: And. Would you like to explain?

Chris Minnick: Yeah, Miss...

Chris Penick: what your challenge was? mm -hmm

Chris Minnick: Mr. Pinnock challenged me to... Learn to do anime drawing and to create anime. characters of C and C.

Chris Minnick: uh us the Chris and Chris. are also known as the cnc music factory

Chris Penick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: Yes, and we'll worry about the legislation on that name later. so I have a feeling we may get caught.

Chris Minnick: i I'm pretty sure that's never been used before.

Chris Penick: Nah, I've never heard of CNC Music Factory before.

Chris Minnick: Alright. No. No.

Chris Penick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: All right. And so, yeah, I worked on it. Uh... I found this to be a lot more difficult than I expected it to be. okay And. Truth be told.

Chris Minnick: on sort of the list of all the different things that I have to do in a day. I... practicing drawing anime. I.

Chris Minnick: sort of fell to Right. below maybe like I don't know. like ah ah Let's say. making my bed.

Chris Minnick: Um... and You know, it's...

Chris Penick: Oh, making your bed? that

Chris Minnick: Well...

Chris Penick: That's higher than I thought.

Chris Minnick: I guess, no, okay.

Chris Penick: So. I was going to say get involuntary surgery or something, you know?

Chris Minnick: so so

Chris Penick: i mean

Chris Minnick: kidding no no i i enjoy it but it's kind of one of those things where if i don't have time then i will rush out

Chris Penick: yeah

Chris Minnick: ah you know, and not.

Chris Penick: Yep.

Chris Minnick: Do it. or And so...

Chris Penick: so

Chris Minnick: um

Chris Penick: I think that's what brings us right here.

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: that's that's This is an admission as much as a demonstration. and that you know, the very thing that we're talking about in this podcast.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: We. did ourselves you know there's an old cheesy

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: i don't know who said it first you know if you If you... Fail to plan, you plan to fail. Something like that, right?

Chris Minnick: That's a good one.

Chris Penick: And.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: You know, and I. That's essentially what I did. I was like, oh yeah, I'll practice. Eh.

Chris Minnick: Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.

Chris Penick: i'll i'll Oh, ohll I'll look up all multiple ways to do it. I looked up like one and my wife sent me another alternative way to spin a basketball. And that was about it.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: um Oh, i'll I'll just set the basketball next to me and I'll do it.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: as often as possible. It's been sitting there looking pretty.

Chris Minnick: Yeah. Uh, So...

Chris Penick: You know?

Chris Minnick: one thing yeah One thing I've noticed here about... um Videos like this where we're doing a reveal is we have to...

Chris Penick: Mm -hmm

Chris Minnick: like actually put off doing the reveal for as long as possible.

Chris Penick: Yep.

Chris Minnick: And that's you know sort of important so that all of you will continue to watch. Um... And this this increases our...

Chris Penick: so so so So this is us.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: us working on Antissa.

Chris Penick: Patient right is that what it is?

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: ah Right? We're working on it. Just... Peace.

Chris Minnick: I love it.

Chris Penick: Just say it.

Chris Minnick: Yes.

Chris Penick: Say it.

Chris Minnick: All right.

Chris Penick: All right.

Chris Minnick: And i was i was I was trying to queue up a fabulous... Everything today is going to be fabulous. I don't know why. I was trying to queue up a fabulous...

Chris Minnick: um Sound effect.

Chris Penick: Okay.

Chris Minnick: Because I forgot to cue up the sound effect. earlier when We were. Off air.

Chris Penick: ah Well, Duke.

Chris Minnick: And so now I am doing probably the. the worst thing you can possibly try to do which is I'm trying to find and queue up.

Chris Minnick: a... a sound effect that we can use in this. very episode and so i am

Chris Penick: Okay. so we're This is what they call dead air in radio. that's we we might want to avoid that yeah

Chris Minnick: No, you're noticing that i'm I haven't stopped talking.

Chris Penick: Well, it's not exactly dead air.

Chris Minnick: I can talk.

Chris Penick: That's true. Okay, so you ever talk to stop talking

Chris Minnick: And I am looking through all of my files.

Chris Penick: Google. but I am going. to use this time as an opportunity to talk about some things we've talked about on the show before. And that is.

Chris Minnick: all right

Chris Penick: you know making these plans and all that and and that's that's where so i guess you know i'm I don't know whether we should talk about this before or after a demonstration.

Chris Minnick: Mhm.

Chris Penick: You know, maybe. Afterwards is sort of a postmo port post take that take okay can you rewind that we'll we'll we'll do it live we'll fix that in post a post -mortem

Chris Minnick: Hey. Yeah. We'll do it live. Do it live.

Chris Penick: yeah do it live As, yeah, he used to say. um but But the thing is... You know, I didn't slot a time. I didn't make it a priority. I didn't.

Chris Minnick: hu

Chris Penick: Even if it's fun. You know, it wasn't, you know.

Chris Minnick: yeah

Chris Penick: it I didn't make it. There's no consequence for me just saying, oh, I'll do it tomorrow.

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: And I didn't have any sort of small breakdown of steps. It was, oh, spin in the basket. It was spin the basketball. It wasn't, hey, can I just get it to spin properly first?

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: Or, hey, can I just get it to land on the finger properly?

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: You know, that those, you gotta...

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: Gotta break it down. and you know so There was no real schedule. There was no real plan.

Chris Minnick: No.

Chris Penick: And those are things we've talked about and offered you before. So I'm thinking. All right. You know, that that's one thing we can always go back and look at in other episodes.

Chris Minnick: We've failed.

Chris Penick: And now we know what to better.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: We we feel for you. We're there when you're trying to learn anything new, right?

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: It's figuring out. what to learn and figuring out how to plan it and making the time for it.

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: It's tough.

Chris Minnick: Yep. Yep.

Chris Penick: All right, I've gabbed.

Chris Minnick: So.

Chris Penick: You want to try it?

Chris Minnick: Nope. now the sound effect uh i don't have the sound effect i do have um this one What's this one? Yeah, that...

Chris Penick: So so we can go But...

Chris Minnick: that That's not bad.

Chris Penick: try to go for a home run in baseball. Is that the next skill? Yeah.

Chris Minnick: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Penick: All right.

Chris Minnick: Alright.

Chris Penick: Alright.

Chris Minnick: so

Chris Penick: So.

Chris Minnick: I...

Chris Penick: You want me to go first?

Chris Minnick: You know, Yes, and I'm

Chris Penick: Or you want to take...

Chris Minnick: No, I'm actually going to... be doing this i think

Chris Penick: There you go Okay. So... Wait. Can I tell them what you're going to be doing?

Chris Minnick: Uh, We talked about it.

Chris Penick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: Oh. wait my thing crashed

Chris Penick: Well, you were that wasn't live. That was between you and me.

Chris Minnick: Oh, okay Yes, let's do.

Chris Penick: Yeah, so.

Chris Minnick: it

Chris Penick: He's going to be drawing. live. Right? Trying to make... the little anime character of each one of us. I'm going to show you how excellently I learned to spin. All right, you ready? So here's the basketball.

Chris Penick: Isn't it pretty? Alright. Now, I found several. I don't know. Hopefully you can see this here. um It may disappear for a second. But the trick is you got to get it to spin. It's not so much.

Chris Penick: where it lands but you got to get it to spin cleanly on an axis vertically And then, even if you get it on the rough spot, Here. As long as it's that's the axis, it'll spin there.

Chris Penick: Hmm. Easier said than done, right? so um I could kind of do it one -handed. See, there's... What? There you go. You got a little bit of sort of sort of getting there.

Chris Minnick: Nice.

Chris Penick: Um... There we go. I get like a... Half a second. There, see?

Chris Minnick: Mm -hmm

Chris Penick: It's but maybe if I had actually tried, to it's now way over on the other side of the office. Give me one second.

Chris Minnick: ah ah

Chris Penick: Okay, got it. ah Coming back. There we go. All right, so didn't know that this was the action sequence of the show. Um. So again, if I had followed my own advice that we've given in other episodes, it just shows right how easy it is to...

Chris Penick: get off track, how to make a goal. You know, if I worked with something that was simple, that could show the progression, I could say, okay, this week I'll work on. Getting it. a clean spin and i've seen some people do a two -handed technique like this I've seen some people do like what I try to do is I seem to have better luck and maybe I'm wrong now. Now it's wobbling. So, but see, they do that though. you know but getting a clean spin, because I don't even have a clean spin yet.

Chris Penick: So that's that's a problem. That's step one. And then, you know, one of these videos I watched, the guy was great.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: He was showing, you know, he's just sitting there, standing there like this and it's spinning it around. And he said, you know, it's all. It's not super difficult. It's just time. It's time and I think that goes just True.

Chris Penick: for a lot of tasks. I truly believe people can learn. Anything? with enough time. and support And so I.

Chris Penick: i had one of my deep thoughts last night so while you're you're still drawing here i'll give you some time and

Chris Minnick: yeah Alright.

Chris Penick: I actually put this up in our, we share a... an online drive here. I'm not signed in. What do you mean I'm not signed in? Yes I am.

Chris Minnick: oh

Chris Penick: Hold on. verify that it's me okay i am me do you are you sure chris are you sure that it's me

Chris Minnick: Do yes, absolutely

Chris Penick: Okay, cool. See money verifies me. There you go. That gets me in. Alright. So my voice is my passport. Verify. All right. And one of the things I was, I was thinking about this and.

Chris Penick: Tell me if this is a silly... silly thought or not it's one of those it i can't tell whether it's profound or not

Chris Minnick: Super silly.

Chris Penick: In the middle of the night.

Chris Minnick: Yes.

Chris Penick: thoughts i literally got up i think it was like somewhere between two and four in the morning and just wrote this down. And I said, the difference between today's student. And the next Einstein, or I guess insert any other genius.

Chris Penick: name there. is the habits of that...

Chris Minnick: That today's students aren't smart.

Chris Penick: No, I said it's the habit is the habits of the students and the system that supports them. You know. Okay, so I'm thinking about this, right? So it's the habits that you set up.

Chris Penick: As a student, Right? So because like Einstein, you know, he worked at what ah a trademark or. a A patent office, sorry, patent patent office, right?

Chris Minnick: Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Penick: And so he's studying math. In his... Spare time. there because he must have been overworked as a below.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: clerk type worker, right? So, I don't know. i do do Am I too off base? But i think I think just that.

Chris Minnick: Um,

Chris Penick: you know

Chris Minnick: I, I... Uh...

Chris Penick: You weren't even listening though.

Chris Minnick: Can you repeat your thing? your No, it was...

Chris Penick: You're too busy working on your picture. I tried to ask you to multitask.

Chris Minnick: Ken. Ken.

Chris Penick: Why did I do that?

Chris Minnick: Can you repeat it?

Chris Penick: See?

Chris Minnick: Can you repeat this?

Chris Penick: All right. So the difference between today's student and the next Einstein. all right, is the habits of the student and the system that supports them.

Chris Minnick: I'd say habits are... All right. you know i think systems don't matter

Chris Penick: Really?

Chris Minnick: Um, Yeah, I think it's about ah habits. I think it's... um

Chris Penick: Hmm.

Chris Minnick: And ah and.

Chris Penick: Okay.

Chris Minnick: the the passion and And. Maybe, I mean, maybe. Um... Having a boring job is an important component of becoming...

Chris Minnick: A useful person?

Chris Penick: ah

Chris Minnick: And like a boring job where you don't have to do very much.

Chris Penick: Right?

Chris Minnick: Because it seems like a lot of people who... become. like you know

Chris Penick: Geniuses.

Chris Minnick: super geniuses are either wealthy so they don't have to have jobs to begin with you know, and that would be probably like encompass like I

Chris Penick: Hmm. Yeah.

Chris Penick: Jobs.

Chris Minnick: Edison or something. Yeah, Steve Jobs or Bill Gates or...

Chris Penick: Yeah. Edison. Edison, you're right.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: Who stole a lot of things from Tesla anyway.

Chris Minnick: or Elon Musk. Yeah.

Chris Penick: Okay, we're going to get in trouble.

Chris Minnick: I know.

Chris Penick: We're going to get a cease and desist from Musk.

Chris Minnick: Or are they...

Chris Penick: Be careful. Alright.

Chris Minnick: They work at a, they work at ah like something like a. you know a patent office in europe so they don't actually do anything right

Chris Penick: Yeah. Yeah, they they're not doing a whole lot of things.

Chris Minnick: Alright.

Chris Penick: Okay.

Chris Minnick: Well. So anyway...

Chris Penick: But I But I still think, okay, so I'm going to disagree on one minor thing.

Chris Minnick: hu

Chris Penick: I think, though, having access then to resources. you know, all right like like you hear stories about lincoln would you know he failed the bar exam a few times right but he kept

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: he would read law books by candlelight in his cabin. All night. CCO is reading, right?

Chris Minnick: Mmm.

Chris Penick: It's his habits. It's his habits that finally got him through and then eventually to the presidency. um I...

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: So.

Chris Minnick: Totally.

Chris Penick: I think it's the habits. it's it's It's not. I mean, obviously if you failed the bar exam, A few times. Eat. you you know You're not a super genius right off the bat that just memorizes things.

Chris Penick: So I think these are topics for another.

Chris Minnick: Right.

Chris Penick: Show?

Chris Minnick: Habits for sure. and this bring me

Chris Penick: Habits for sure.

Chris Minnick: Brings me to... I read the the book is called the 5 a .m. Club.

Chris Penick: Yeah, yeah

Chris Minnick: I read that last week.

Chris Penick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: And. the basic idea is wake up at 5 a .m spend 20 minutes exercising 20 minutes I... Um... um Wait, 20 minutes.

Chris Minnick: uh doing like meditation or reflecting and 20 minutes learning something

Chris Penick: Yeah. Yep.

Chris Minnick: So. I've been doing this

Chris Penick: I like the learning something. That's good.

Chris Minnick: Well, the problem is...

Chris Penick: What are you learning?

Chris Minnick: I wake up at 5am, right? Set my alarm for 5am. I spend. First five minutes like taking all the pills I'm supposed to take.

Chris Penick: Been there.

Chris Minnick: Second five minutes I go to the bathroom.

Chris Penick: I feel personally attacked

Chris Minnick: Third. Third five minutes, I'm putting on my workout clothes. And then it is 20 after five before I. get out the door to do my.

Chris Minnick: supposed 20 minute run. I've been doing it.

Chris Penick: Okay. All right. Yeah, but...

Chris Minnick: And then I'm not done with my run until 545. And then I spend 15 minutes writing in my journal. And then it's like.

Chris Penick: Okay.

Chris Minnick: 610. And I'm like, well. I totally missed out on my opportunity to do my 20 minutes of writing or of learning, apparently.

Chris Penick: oh So, well, OK, so it's the it's the switching is the task switching in between. I mean.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: that 2020 -20 isn't taken into account. And it's the same thing you and I have when we're teaching classes, right?

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: it

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: when you go from one module or one thought or one task to another, or elementary school teachers are familiar with this when they, so you know, the kids stay in the same classroom, but okay, now we're doing social studies or now we're doing English. Right.

Chris Penick: yeah It takes a while before your brain and body adjust to whatever that new task is.

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Minnick: Right.

Chris Penick: So I think you modify this.

Chris Minnick: And so...

Chris Penick: All right, so so you can call it.

Chris Minnick: hey Wake up at 440.

Chris Penick: Or no, just call it like 25, 25, 25.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: 20 -5 -20 - Five dash. Easy. See, put the gap in between.

Chris Minnick: Okay.

Chris Penick: Give yourself some time to... to switch modes.

Chris Minnick: I still need to wake up earlier because...

Chris Penick: Yeah. But.

Chris Minnick: I really, you know, I'm going to need that 15 minutes in the morning to like get dressed and go to the bathroom or else it's going to be a problem at the gym.

Chris Penick: yeah

Chris Minnick: So...

Chris Penick: ah the realities of this The things you learn on the movie towards better podcast, you know, see, see money's bathroom habits on the next exciting episode.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: um Well, no, I get that. Right. Reality takes place. But I think my my point is. Generally that. You know, that would. People who write books like that.

Chris Penick: know And this is what I'm trying to avoid with this podcast is that. We are no. You know, we're not perfect on here. This is what I hope that you learned from this. See, look, I can't stop.

Chris Minnick: hu

Chris Penick: I'm trying to get it to work. But... We're moving that way. See, that that's hence the weird title, moving towards better, right?

Chris Minnick: moving

Chris Penick: We're moving that way. And as long as you're moving that way, so. I think it's great and I applaud you. that you've even taken the effort. to figure out this 2020. And because if you ask me to get up at five, it ain't going to happen.

Chris Penick: All right.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: I'll do 2020 -20, but I'll pace it someplace else. All right.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: It's not going to be a 2020 morning. It's just not going to happen. i do my meditation in the morning And I do my.

Chris Minnick: hu

Chris Penick: you know but i gotta have my coffee and uh you know and my meditation partner the the dog sits and meditates with me believe it or not so Yeah.

Chris Minnick: Awesome. Alright. I'm ready for my reveal.

Chris Penick: You're ready? You're ready?

Chris Minnick: Si.

Chris Penick: Okay. do Do a drum roll, whatever.

Chris Minnick: I mean... Yeah, sure, sure.

Chris Penick: Maybe.

Chris Minnick: um Okay, keep in mind I did this just now and it's not really anime.

Chris Penick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: So, okay.

Chris Minnick: Uh, And for those of you.

Chris Penick: It's not really anime.

Chris Minnick: and i apologize for those of you who are on audio only who aren't watching the video feed here but

Chris Penick: You didn't get to see me kill myself with a basketball.

Chris Minnick: I'm going to ask...

Chris Penick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: I'm going to ask Chris Penick to describe. the drawing that I show right now.

Chris Penick: Oh, God, no.

Chris Minnick: Wait.

Chris Penick: No.

Chris Minnick: come on this is this is chris pinnick Okay.

Chris Penick: I'm your friend. I'm not going to, you know.

Chris Penick: Well...

Chris Minnick: Go ahead.

Chris Penick: Alright.

Chris Minnick: You want to describe that?

Chris Penick: Dear listeners only, what you can see, had you been watching the video on this, is an expressive, wide -eyed character with ah chunky bangs.

Chris Penick: Because, yeah, I actually have no bangs here. So thank you for giving me more hair than I actually do have.

Chris Minnick: yeah Sure. It's anime.

Chris Penick: um and Big old can. headphones on there so yes you have captured my essence as

Chris Minnick: Yes.

Chris Minnick: Yes, thank you

Chris Penick: a podcast host there you go but now i

Chris Minnick: All right, I'll show you some that...

Chris Penick: I need to see where's you though. You were supposed to do you too.

Chris Minnick: Oh yeah, yeah, sure.

Chris Penick: Did you do?

Chris Minnick: Look at me.

Chris Penick: Okay.

Chris Minnick: Um...

Chris Penick: ah Okay, let's see that. Oh, oh, oh you get even more hair. Okay, so

Chris Minnick: Yes.

Chris Penick: And again, dear listener, if if this I've tried to describe this for you so you can picture um more of a ah sort of U -shaped eye, a little bit of cheekbone there.

Chris Penick: Nice. I see you gave yourself some cheekbone, made a nice young look there.

Chris Minnick: Yeah, yeah.

Chris Penick: Tiny mouth, but a big old swooping spiky hair going off to ah the character's left side.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: So yes, well, well done. It's all black and white right now. There's no color. I want i expect color next time around.

Chris Minnick: ah Okay, wait, hang on.

Chris Penick: Yeah. Oh, oh! Is this me or you?

Chris Minnick: ah Let's call this you.

Chris Penick: Let's call this me. um I've never been a redhead, but for dear listeners, if you've ever seen like the symbol of like. ah when they show like a spark exploding or, you know, lightning bolts.

Chris Minnick: I like splat.

Chris Penick: Imagine. or a splat, imagine painting those orange, kind of a reddish orange and stacking several on top of each other.

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: That's my hair in this picture.

Chris Minnick: Yes. Yes, thank you very much.

Chris Penick: There you go. All right. So thank you. Well done.

Chris Minnick: So...

Chris Penick: Better than I could have done?

Chris Minnick: Yep, call that a huge success.

Chris Penick: I call that a huge success. I think I should call crunchy roll now and see what show you can work on next.

Chris Minnick: Hehehehehehe.

Chris Penick: So, by the way, they're our new sponsor too.

Chris Minnick: Yeah, totally. Yep.

Chris Penick: There you go. They just don't know it yet.

Chris Minnick: Oh, yeah, that's cool.

Chris Penick: so Yeah.

Chris Minnick: Yeah

Chris Penick: Crunchyroll, you know, we we we you represent for you there.

Chris Minnick: I'm excited about that. yeah

Chris Penick: um Yeah.

Chris Minnick: Crunchyroll, for all your anime needs.

Chris Penick: Exactly. There you go. And manga. They have manga now too online.

Chris Minnick: for all your manga needs.

Chris Penick: Yeah. Is that like manganese?

Chris Minnick: You sicko.

Chris Penick: You're supposed to take some of that like every. Sorry.

Chris Minnick: manganese to help you sleep or something.

Chris Penick: Manganese. Oh.

Chris Minnick: Alright.

Chris Penick: That was a dad joke, sorry. All right, so what's up what's up now? Are we gonna pick new challenges?

Chris Minnick: So yeah. Now, yes, now is the time when we.

Chris Penick: Goodbye, basketball.

Chris Minnick: When we hit. We put to bed these childish things and we have new.

Chris Penick: okay New. profound challenges.

Chris Minnick: New challenges. that are easier.

Chris Penick: oh

Chris Minnick: I am going for Moving toward easier.

Chris Penick: Alright. Moving toward easier. Is that a hint is that a hint for me?

Chris Minnick: Um... No no no no no

Chris Penick: Okay.

Chris Minnick: So I'm going to recap the rules.

Chris Penick: Yes, that's important. this has been a

Chris Minnick: The moving toward better skill challenge rules. Number one. must be something that the other person doesn't already know. Number two. must be something that exists outside of a computer. You could do research on a computer. Of course.

Chris Minnick: But the actual thing. If Chris were to challenge me to learn a particular programming language,

Chris Penick: a

Chris Minnick: I would. Probably. like stop doing this podcast today.

Chris Penick: yeah we've been there done that

Chris Minnick: Number three. It's something small enough where we can make progress in a month.

Chris Penick: Something little.

Chris Minnick: Number four.

Chris Penick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: Four.

Chris Minnick: It's not expensive to get started

Chris Penick: And that, I guess that's relative, but for yeah, such expensive indoor, basically we look for cheap or free. all Right.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: Yeah. So, okay.

Chris Minnick: cheap or free.

Chris Penick: Cheap or free? We like free.

Chris Minnick: number one two three four five

Chris Penick: Yeah, we can count.

Chris Minnick: Not. potentially life -threatening

Chris Penick: See that took out a whole bunch of them that I had lined up for a man It was really, really disappointing here. so And again, though, I still think that that has some wiggle room.

Chris Minnick: Yes.

Chris Penick: What's life threatening? I mean, because all life eventually.

Chris Minnick: Right.

Chris Penick: Ends. Right. So. Just whether this was cause of it or not.

Chris Minnick: It's dark. Yeah.

Chris Penick: that was very Thank you.

Chris Minnick: Yeah, yeah, but...

Chris Penick: This has been your deep thought for the day.

Chris Minnick: if Like, I do need... like a um a cord for plugging my generator into the side of my house

Chris Penick: Yep.

Chris Minnick: But if you were to say Chris make. an extension cord with plugs on both ends. then Um. Yeah, that would be so.

Chris Penick: Probably not.

Chris Minnick: Learn to make that.

Chris Penick: Yeah, that.

Chris Minnick: uh

Chris Penick: Probably not a good idea. Yeah.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: i see i no one wants your house to burn no no That's not good.

Chris Minnick: No.

Chris Penick: Okay.

Chris Minnick: All right. um Next one.

Chris Penick: Alright.

Chris Minnick: Not obviously illegal.

Chris Penick: Yep.

Chris Minnick: So.

Chris Penick: And I love that we added obviously there. We need obviously.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: Because I'm, hey.

Chris Minnick: Yeah, I mean.

Chris Penick: You know, there's a lot of things where yeah that gray area. you know.

Chris Minnick: Right. I mean, you could say like.

Chris Penick: We didn't say unethical.

Chris Minnick: You could say like, Chris, learn how to do your taxes yourself.

Chris Penick: Right.

Chris Minnick: And like that probably has some illegal elements, but not obvious. I don't know.

Chris Penick: I mean, I don't I don't think it is. I mean, it's more like it's I'd be really bad at it. You know, I had ah an employer I worked with many years ago who had an accountant that was slick.

Chris Minnick: Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Penick: at Finding the Loopholes. so i always wondered how he did it and how he managed to get my boss to pay like

Chris Minnick: Mm -hmm.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: Almost nothing. Every year. So I need to I don't think that accountants around anymore, but. I'd like to find it.

Chris Minnick: Owning commercial property apparently is the way to do it.

Chris Penick: Owning commercial property.

Chris Minnick: That's where the loopholes are.

Chris Penick: Ah, that's the loophole.

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: Okay. So, all right. Well, I know what we're working on next.

Chris Minnick: awesome

Chris Penick: That's the next skill. How how to acquire commercial property with little to no money.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: Yep. Yep.

Chris Penick: There you go. Okay.

Chris Minnick: Been there, done that.

Chris Penick: And I think that's.

Chris Minnick: Alright.

Chris Penick: That. That's about it, right?

Chris Minnick: ah There's the final one is you.

Chris Penick: Yes.

Chris Minnick: you can refuse the first choice. like So I'm going to give Chris a...

Chris Penick: Refuse.

Chris Minnick: challenge, he can say no. But then. He has to take the backup one.

Chris Penick: So get that. You got to take the right. See, so. You have to... choose two each time and you gotta think Carefully here. All right. So wait, so who's going first this time around?

Chris Minnick: Uh,

Chris Penick: Who went first last time?

Chris Minnick: I don't remember, but flip a coin. Do you have a coin?

Chris Penick: Flip a coin. i don't have a coin dude we just talked about how poor We are.

Chris Minnick: Hold on.

Chris Penick: And you asked me to find a coin. Wait. Do people use coins anymore?

Chris Minnick: Uh...

Chris Penick: They don't use pennies anymore

Chris Minnick: I have a... um I have a coin app

Chris Penick: You have a coin app. There's an app for that. Okay, flip it.

Chris Minnick: All right, so call it.

Chris Penick: ah Heads.

Chris Minnick: Call it.

Chris Penick: Uh... I think that it's hard.

Chris Minnick: so

Chris Penick: It's fuzzy right now. I think it's heads.

Chris Minnick: It is in his heads.

Chris Penick: Yeah, it's heads.

Chris Minnick: So you get to choose who goes first.

Chris Penick: Okay. so Okay, so I'm going to pick for you first. How's that? Alright.

Chris Minnick: So... You okay you will yeah Give it to me.

Chris Penick: I will give you your two options first. How's that?

Chris Minnick: Alright, I'm ready.

Chris Penick: Okay. All right, let's see. Okay. For the first option... I... And hopefully you haven't done this you may have to nix it here. I want you to learn Basic.

Chris Penick: Morse code. by sound. By sound.

Chris Minnick: By like how to.

Chris Penick: Like when you hear the dot did it did it did it right so it doesn't have to be like

Chris Minnick: hear Morse code.

Chris Penick: Like, you know, but like. Like the big the way to demonstrate would be. So let me give you sort of like ah a four week finish line too, because I think that's important. If we're going to do this over a month.

Chris Minnick: Okay.

Chris Penick: you know, you were because we said it has to be measurable, maybe that you can...

Chris Minnick: All right.

Chris Penick: Recognize and send your name. or you can recognize and send like uh some short phrase like the quick brown fox maybe that's it

Chris Minnick: You don't need to tell me anymore. I love this one. I'm all over it.

Chris Penick: ah

Chris Minnick: I... Let's do it. i am

Chris Penick: All right. All right, nice.

Chris Minnick: I... i am going to be Morse coding the hell out of things.

Chris Penick: Yeah. Then see so then if we're ever caught as prisoners, we'll be able to communicate

Chris Minnick: Mm -hmm.

Chris Penick: It'd be awesome. There you go.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: Okay. All right.

Chris Minnick: I love it.

Chris Penick: Cool, I don't even have to go for my second one.

Chris Minnick: I love it. this is

Chris Penick: Nice.

Chris Minnick: No, this is great. Save your second one for another day.

Chris Penick: Nice.

Chris Minnick: for a rainy day.

Chris Penick: Nice. Oh, because the second one's good.

Chris Minnick: Alright, I came up with three of them.

Chris Penick: Uh oh.

Chris Minnick: I ran them all by Jill this afternoon.

Chris Penick: Oh gosh.

Chris Minnick: And she said. ah That third one, you might not want to uh use that one and so I'm going with her advice here.

Chris Penick: Was it dirty? We didn't say anything.

Chris Minnick: No it wasn't.

Chris Penick: We didn't put any rules about...

Chris Minnick: Now.

Chris Penick: dirty, we should maybe consider that too.

Chris Minnick: Wasn't dirty. She just I mean, she's just she's just wise and she said I

Chris Penick: Okay.

Chris Penick: just well Our significant others are smarter than us.

Chris Minnick: Because.

Chris Penick: I give you that.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: So yeah.

Chris Minnick: Because theoretically, I could say... I could make the first one be something that I know you already know how to do so that you're forced to take the second one.

Chris Penick: Well, that's not exactly. We've got to figure out a corollary for that.

Chris Minnick: But we're not the goal here isn't to like do it gotcha

Chris Penick: What?

Chris Minnick: I. No, the goal is not a gotcha.

Chris Penick: The goal is to find something fun that's going to be fun for both of us.

Chris Minnick: And something that the other person you think will appreciate.

Chris Penick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: and so

Chris Penick: Okay. All right

Chris Minnick: there's There is a topic that you've been talking about. pretty much every time we talk.

Chris Penick: Uh oh.

Chris Minnick: I... And. I honestly don't know whether this is something that you already know how to do, but you've been mentioning it a lot lately.

Chris Penick: oh

Chris Minnick: And so I thought maybe. This will be the impetus that you need to actually learn it if you don't already know it. And the the challenge for you.

Chris Penick: All right.

Chris Minnick: ahem is.

Chris Penick: murder him

Chris Minnick: crochet.

Chris Penick: and

Chris Penick: Oh. ah Okay. All right. All right. So what would be a measure? What would be a four week? you know, or a 30, approximately 30 day measure for that. Do I have to make like a little...

Chris Minnick: Something you can show.

Chris Penick: pot holder or something. Something I can show. Okay.

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: Um.

Chris Minnick: It could be a...

Chris Penick: I do not know how to do it.

Chris Minnick: Finger sweater.

Chris Penick: My...

Chris Minnick: Whatever.

Chris Penick: Wife has attempted to... Shh. show me how to do it before and uh i kind of like said yep that's cool Uh, nope.

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: After what? Maybe a minute or two.

Chris Minnick: hu

Chris Penick: So challenge accepted. we needed some

Chris Minnick: hello ra

Chris Penick: We need some challenge accepted music too. Challenge accepted.

Chris Minnick: Uh...

Chris Penick: Boom, boom.

Chris Penick: See?

Chris Minnick: ah

Chris Penick: Please, so again, Crunchyroll, Duolingo, you are our sponsors.

Chris Minnick: Yes.

Chris Penick: You just don't know it yet. okay um who else we had a few other sponsors they didn't know it yet But. But regard Anthropic, you're our sponsor.

Chris Minnick: Yeah, most of them. Most of them are sponsors.

Chris Penick: Yeah, most of them are sponsors.

Chris Minnick: Yes.

Chris Penick: They just don't know it.

Chris Minnick: And.

Chris Penick: um

Chris Minnick: Now, apparently, it's um like Mr.

Chris Penick: you know.

Chris Minnick: Morse. so ah

Chris Penick: Mr. Morse. Mr.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: Morse and what? Well, there used to be a Joanne's Fabrics. I don't know where you get.

Chris Minnick: Yeah, Alexander Graham Bell is our sponsor.

Chris Penick: Michaels. Michaels. mike Michael's for yarn. There you go.

Chris Minnick: Mm hmm.

Chris Penick: Michael's, you're our sponsor too.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: And if you want to send some free yarn our way, we're happy to you know put this to the test and get you other crocheters.

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: Definitely. Hey, there you go. That's how we work it out. We just got to say, you know, send us the stuff. We'll try it. And then...

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: you know No problem. I'm always happy to receive a... Yeah. Package hit. Wait. Hold on. I'm going to. We got to keep this ah clean.

Chris Minnick: Yeah. That's...

Chris Penick: bad I don't know.

Chris Minnick: Hey.

Chris Penick: You're the one drinking the wine, not me.

Chris Minnick: Hey -oh! what

Chris Penick: Hey -oh!

Chris Minnick: Alright. All right, so...

Chris Penick: So. Recap.

Chris Minnick: That's it.

Chris Penick: That's it.

Chris Minnick: Recap. we made We made some progress.

Chris Penick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: I would say, you know, I actually learned how to use this. drawing app. on my on my iPad.

Chris Penick: Which one was that? Who's up?

Chris Minnick: um

Chris Penick: Procreate.

Chris Minnick: Procreate.

Chris Penick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: So I learned how to use Procreate.

Chris Penick: It's a good comboing.

Chris Minnick: I learned a lot about Procreate.

Chris Penick: Well, so there, right.

Chris Minnick: Um.

Chris Penick: So you got stuff out of this regardless of how far you went with the anime characters. I like that.

Chris Minnick: Yeah. And i got my I got a nice mechanical pencil.

Chris Penick: Hello.

Chris Minnick: because I was drawing on paper too, and I i don't have my paper here.

Chris Penick: So you got stuff too.

Chris Minnick: um

Chris Penick: Stuff is always good. you know.

Chris Minnick: Yeah, I got new stuff I got

Chris Penick: so Oh, some swag.

Chris Minnick: A new thing to practice during my like 20 minutes in the morning between.

Chris Penick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: Good morning. Okay.

Chris Minnick: 5 40 and six o 'clock

Chris Penick: There you go.

Chris Minnick: Uh, And so, yeah.

Chris Penick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: and And you, you have, I mean.

Chris Penick: and it

Chris Minnick: i i'm impressed you you can do the basketball spinning better than i can

Chris Penick: Well... um So, yeah, because i actually I will say, and this is a challenge to my family listening, because they've watched me try this the few times that I did. And of course they chuckle when it you know goes flying across one way or the other in the room.

Chris Minnick: hu

Chris Penick: Um... But... I challenge you. You do it. I asked a few of you.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: Some of you weren't brave.

Chris Minnick: Let's see them do it. Mm -hmm.

Chris Penick: So, you know, hey, if you want to squawk about it, you try it.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: That's all I'm saying.

Chris Minnick: Exactly.

Chris Penick: I'm looking right at the mic so that this is clear.

Chris Minnick: who's who's the one laughing, you know?

Chris Penick: o Yeah, who's laughing now?

Chris Minnick: it's

Chris Penick: There you go.

Chris Minnick: Yeah.

Chris Penick: Exactly. And I haven't even had any wine, man.

Chris Minnick: Mm hmm.

Chris Penick: ah Next time I'm going to have to.

Chris Minnick: Well, you're gonna have to remedy that.

Chris Penick: next what what what Yeah, what kind are you drinking tonight? Just so I know.

Chris Minnick: uh it's a cabernet it's a cheap cabernet uh that I don't remember.

Chris Penick: I live vicariously. I like cabs.

Chris Minnick: I think it might be. a I think it might be a bogle.

Chris Penick: Okay.

Chris Minnick: Um...

Chris Penick: I know them. i like them they're Not bad.

Chris Minnick: but I

Chris Penick: I like a Syrah too.

Chris Minnick: is on sale.

Chris Penick: a good a good sirrah

Chris Minnick: Yeah, Bogle does a good, Petit Syrah, the Bogle Petit Syrah.

Chris Penick: Yeah.

Chris Minnick: They are one of our sponsors. ah We actually.

Chris Penick: Yes, Vogel.

Chris Minnick: When I was making wine, we used to get grapes from the Bogle. um One of our, my, my buddy knew like.

Chris Penick: Really?

Chris Minnick: old man bogle and would like uh talk to him and ah They'd let us pick the ends of the rows because they've got like the parts of the rows where mechanical pickers can't get.

Chris Penick: so

Chris Minnick: And so we would go down there and like hand pick those by hand and make wine out of them.

Chris Penick: Nice. Nice. I got, I got.

Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: a vine in the back. It's all overgrown and hasn't been picked. um I'm going to stick the kids on it and see what we can make.

Chris Minnick: Cool.

Chris Minnick: Mail them.

Chris Penick: i don't Mail them to you. Mail them to you. There you go. all right there you go so um well

Chris Minnick: Alright.

Chris Penick: So until next time. Dear listeners slash watchers.

Chris Minnick: Yes.

Chris Penick: um if you come up with other ideas of course we're always looking for this we need to set up Right now, just comment on wherever you get your podcasts. We're like everywhere now.

Chris Minnick: Remember to like, subscribe.

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Chris Minnick: wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah. Like and subscribe.

Chris Penick: Like and subscribe.

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Chris Penick: you know YouTube. LinkedIn even, we even go out on LinkedIn.

Chris Minnick: Share.

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Chris Minnick: Rate.

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Chris Minnick: Yep.

Chris Penick: There you go.

Chris Minnick: Rockin'.

Chris Penick: All right, and we will see you next time.

Chris Minnick: Alright.

Chris Penick: With next time, do do we want to know no previews of other shows?

Chris Minnick: No, no, no.

Chris Penick: Salute. Okay, but but we've got some cool shows lined up. for you between now

Chris Minnick: We do.

Chris Penick: And. The 30 days from now. So don't. think you'd only have to you come back in a month. No, come back next week and we'll have lots of cool things to talk about. Alright, so...

Chris Minnick: right on

Chris Penick: All right.

Chris Minnick: Cue the music.

Chris Penick: Cue the music.

Chris Minnick: ciao

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