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Propaganda We Fell For 🤪
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From wipe warmers to wooden toy guilt, we’re calling out the mom propaganda we totally fell for—and laughing through it. This week we’re spilling the tea on the products, pressures, and Pinterest lies that had us in a chokehold. Think: neutral nurseries, $1K strollers, and why your diaper bag does not need to be leather. We’re getting real about what actually matters, what we’d do differently, and why changing your mind is a mom superpower.
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Introduction to the Park Mom's Podcast
00:00:00
Speaker
Hi, welcome to the Park Mom's Podcast, where your hosts Haley and Becca. This is the place where we laugh and chat about the chaotic bliss of raising young kids. So whether you're about to take a hot mom walk or start a little laundry, let's get to yapping. Let's get yapping.
00:00:11
Speaker
Hey, guys. Okay, ask me how I'm doing. How are you doing?
Surviving the Heat Wave
00:00:15
Speaker
Bad. You want to know why? Because you didn't like the 4th of July. No, I loved the 4th of July. We can get into the 4th of July. But why I'm doing bad is it's been so hot the past couple of days. Yeah.
00:00:25
Speaker
And today I walked out my front door and I said, what is that smell? Oh, no.
The Mystery of the Bad Smell
00:00:30
Speaker
What is that smell? Is your heat burning? No. No. It smelled like trigger warning for if you're, like, eating or something. It smelled like when you drive by a dead deer on the road.
00:00:42
Speaker
Like, it smelled like that. Burning flesh. Oh, not that, but like just like a dead animal. it smelled like a dead animal. Okay. I walked outside my front door and outside my front door is like a whole bunch of lavender and like hydrangeas. It should smell good, right?
00:00:55
Speaker
And so I smelled this a couple of times. And so I've been like looking in the lavender bushes. I'm like, maybe there's like a dead mouse or something. i've been looking at all the plants. And I think that we came to the conclusion Camden also looked that something must have gone under the stairs under our porch, which, like, are closed off, but, like, a little animal could dig under there.
00:01:15
Speaker
Yeah. And we're pretty – I have to move. You think something's dead under there? I think something died under there. Wait, what does that have to do with it being really hot? Because oh because the hotness like brought out this bench.
00:01:27
Speaker
So now I have to move. um I think there's like people for that. I'm serious. Like a task rabbit? Yeah, because guess what? I know that lots of people in our neighborhood, birds die in like their roof and there's like people to come out and clean them or like in their solar panels and stuff. So I bet there's like something to take care of that.
00:01:46
Speaker
no. I was crashing out. I was crashing out. i was like, we have to move. It's like there's cement stairs. And so it's not like you can just like go under there and then we have gravel on the side. So like I was telling Camden like to dig out the gravel and he was like, well then...
00:01:59
Speaker
Anyways, it's a whole thing, and I might be out there at 2 a.m. tonight just, like, trying to find whatever it is because this smell is so i wonder if you could, like, spray it with something that would, like, make it stop rotting.
Unusual Drink Preferences and Humor
00:02:10
Speaker
Okay, that's a good idea. Like, some lavender. Some lavender spray. Or pura down there. Chattie-PTia. See what's to a chatty's health house. Okay, I'm doing bad, but how are you doing? I'm doing good, honestly, and thank you for my swig.
00:02:23
Speaker
When she brought this, it made me think of The Secret Life's of Mormon Wives, and we did a catch-up on it a few weeks ago, but I just watched the reunion. Wait, hold on. Side note before we get started. Yeah? Please share your swig order because it's crazy. I was like, what drink do you want from swig? This girl asks me to get her water with lemon. Literally, you could have gotten the same thing from under the sink. From the sink.
00:02:46
Speaker
Okay, today i watched that TikTok from Johnson Files, and they're going – it's an old one, but he reposted it. They're going through the Swig line or, and don't know, it's just like Utah soda shops.
00:02:57
Speaker
And ah the girl goes like, oh, you still drink soda? I don't anymore. Like, I just drink water. And then she does her order, and she's like, 64 ounce with three pumps of raspberry, three pumps of vanilla, raspberry, and can you add some of that, like heavy cream? And she's like, for calcium. Yeah.
00:03:16
Speaker
It's so true. We'll have to repost that. We do this, like, healthy waters in any anyways. but No, but the fact that you ordered, i was like, and then I texted you back and I was like, like, a sparkling water? Like, do you want, like, at least, because I got a sparkling water with sugar-free peach and lemon. Just, like, very simple.
00:03:31
Speaker
Yeah. But you literally got water. Well, I got a lemon in it. yeah do you
The Shocking Cost of Fast Food
00:03:38
Speaker
carly Carly taught me this order. Carly, let's go. But, okay. What do mean taught it to you? Water with lemon isn't, like, a new, like, invention.
00:03:46
Speaker
I feel like, I don't know what it is. They're healthy. No, I just don't want a soda at night. I didn't want a soda tonight. And I feel like this going to, you're to hate me for this. I don't love their sparkling waters.
00:03:58
Speaker
I know. you like sparkling water in general? just think they're too, yeah, some of them I'm fine with. I like spindriffs. I think they're too sweet. And I don't love the taste of sugar-free.
00:04:08
Speaker
And like, so I'm like. I don't hate you for that. You don't hate me. I understand. The mango one you got me that one time was pretty good. The mango breeze? Yeah, that was good. Yeah, that was good. But like, I just can't stomach the strawberry breeze and stuff anymore.
00:04:19
Speaker
Yeah, no, I overdid it on the strawberry breeze. It's also like $15. Went too hard on the strawberry reunion. Yeah, really overdid it. Okay, Secret Lives. Okay, sorry. Back to Secret Lives. to- Did you watch the reunion? I watched the first half.
00:04:30
Speaker
Okay. what One- Okay, I really don't want to sound rude by saying this, but they- Oh, man. It's just, like, crazy. The outfits? No, not the outfits. The outfits were interesting as well, but it's just, like, I feel like their lives are so messed up from the show, honestly. Yes, but one more thing about the outfits. They were giving, like, Forever 21. I felt like prom dress vibes. But like cheaper than a prom dress. Like Forever 21 or what was that other one? Rue 21? Rue 21, yeah. That's what it was. I love that place growing up.
00:04:59
Speaker
Do you know what else I went to? They probably didn't have this in California. Gen X. No, I've never heard of that. as you yeah i have to Actually, won't share that because that will be mean. No, I'm going share anyway. One time my friend, um Bella, she looks at me and she goes, you know what? I feel like you shopped at Buckle in high school. you know You're the kind of girl that shopped at Buckle. Did you?
00:05:15
Speaker
I've never been so offended in my life. No. didn't even know what Buckle was. i loved Buckle. I thought Buckle was like the weird place to shop. I mean, probably in California and Utah was very, very cool. It was really cool. Oh, yeah.
00:05:26
Speaker
I mean, Buckle is still around. Bedazzle, jeans, jeans. we're at See, we never really did the bedazzled jeans. We did the true religion with like the stitching, but yeah for the never there was never any gems. I remember I would save my money and it was $120 for a pair of jeans, which was so much back then. No, that's a lot now.
00:05:42
Speaker
A lot now, but like imagine like it was $2,000. No, that's like spending five months. Yeah. Now we just spend our money on like sweat sets, like those park sweatshirts that everyone bought for 4th of July. you know what I'm talking about? Wait, no. The P-A-R-K-E.
00:05:56
Speaker
No. Okay, they're like really cute mock neck sweatshirts and they had a 4th of July drop and everyone was wearing them on 4th of July. Oh, I was wondering why everyone was wearing the same thing. They're like $200 sweatshirts. Also like, did you wear one?
00:06:06
Speaker
No. Okay. We wore this. I was going to say, I don't understand how people can wear a sweater on the 4th of July. I was really confused. not going to lie. They're like knit sweaters, right? Okay, but wait, we are getting way off topic because we can talk about 4th of July next. Let's talk about reunion. We'll circle back to knit sweaters on the July. Okay, their lives just feel like...
00:06:25
Speaker
Oh, I was just saying, like, it seems like the show was, like, making them, like, all, like, fight with each other. And, like, yeah I don't know. It just seems, like, so intense. Fame has a cost. I actually have to say, what? Fame has a cost. Love dad talk. I don't know why the dads cracked me up so much. They're so funny.
00:06:41
Speaker
And, I mean, I still love all the girls from Secret Life, but I'm just like, wow, man, it just seems like the season seems so so crazy. And then, like, they gave spoilers for the next season, and it seems like it's just going crazier. Crazier and crazier. Yeah. know.
00:06:53
Speaker
I wonder if they'll bring more people on show. Like, you know how um Real Housewives, which I don't watch a ton, but you know how they'll, like – Add a new person. Add a new person or do something. I wonder if they're always going to do that because they did add Miranda this year. Yeah, maybe they will. And I think Demi's – I don't know if she's – Demi. Demi, sorry. Demi's not in it anymore.
00:07:10
Speaker
But they have Whitney's back in it and so is the new blonde girl. But they're always on the show even if they weren't in MomTalk. Yeah. Honestly, i'm kind of um exhausted from everything Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. I'm like, let's move on. Let's do something new. happy to take a like a sabbatical for a minute, but I'll definitely be watching it in the fall. Oh, yeah.
Mormon Wives Drama and Fame
00:07:29
Speaker
100%. like I need some time to just decompress.
00:07:32
Speaker
Watch the violin It's also just so close to home. It's so close to home. It's close to home. It's when they do the panovers over like the edge homes, I'm just like... That's weird. That's literally down the street from us. Yeah.
00:07:43
Speaker
No, we don't live in edge homes. Okay. Fourth of July weekend. Fourth of July. Let's circle back to the knit sweaters for one second. Okay. How do people wear knit sweaters on the fourth July? well, this fourth July was raining. I know, but like in general, like they didn't know it was going rain when they posted dress. mean, gets chilly at night.
00:07:59
Speaker
A cotton sweater. Like, I have the Ralph Lauren yeah most money I've ever spent on anything. I got it in London, like the classic Ralph Lauren flag sweater. Yeah. And I wore that on the 5th of July, but I was on a boat and it was cold.
00:08:12
Speaker
Yeah, I will say it's very cute. And like I guess at night you're doing fireworks and stuff, so I see i see the uphill. Appeal, I mean. I see the uphill. Yeah. Uphill. Your Utah just came out uphill. I said uphill. I've seen that uphill, but I think i just usually will go for comfort yeah over style. Which, can we talk about that, by the way?
00:08:31
Speaker
Yeah, Our cute t-shirts. Okay, so we bought these without knowing the other one bought it. And I was like, hey, I just bought this. And she's like, I bought it too. My sister-in-law started this really cute embroidery company. It's called The Common People. And it's She's like such a good fan of the podcast. She always texts She's like, let's go. She's the best. And anyways, I love this episode. And it's so funny when I catch up with her, she'll like catch up with me, like stuff that I didn't even realize she knew because she listens. I'm like, wait, that's so fun.
00:08:56
Speaker
um Anyway, she's the biggest supporter. And, Her store is so cute, so I obviously bought a shirt from it, and then you text me, hey, I just bought something from your sister-in-law. I'm like, what did you buy? And we're like, oh, we got the same shirt. It is honestly – love the fit of it, and it is so soft.
00:09:12
Speaker
Shout out. It is so soft. I love that it's 100% cotton. Yeah. It is just – it is – like, I just want – It's giving baby T, but it's not, like, too tight. Can she make this exact shirt that says bellies out, mamas? Yeah. Guess what she actually is making, which is so cute. I'm like, she she didn't drop it for the drop.
00:09:27
Speaker
And I don't even know she's going to sell this, like, can you least just make it for me? A star. Okay, so it's going to be a white baby T with a blue star and a blue cowboy hat. Oh, love Wouldn't that be so cute? I'll buy anything. I'm a cowboy lover for, like, style right now. I feel like it's very in. That's propaganda that we've fallen for Western. Actually,
00:09:46
Speaker
I'll get to that later. Okay. Remind me of that later because I wrote something down for that. Okay. Okay. Fourth of July, what did you do? Okay. Fourth of July, we went up to Midway and to go swim and then it thunderstormed.
00:09:58
Speaker
Yeah. that it So was kind of weird Fourth of July, but we did the classic barbecue. But then the next day, we kind of did like a Fourth of July redo because it was a Saturday. Went to the pool, went boating. Did you guys do fireworks?
00:10:09
Speaker
Yes. We did fireworks. Have you... I don't know why this year the fireworks with my kids was making me so nervous. Really? Because we did. We went to like a church parking lot. Yeah. yeah Because my parents' neighborhood, they were kind of being Karen's and they were like, don't do fireworks out here. And my dad was throwing a fit.
00:10:25
Speaker
He was like... Oh, you're talking about like the kind you do yourself, not like the firework show. Yes. Okay. Okay. And so like we had a bunch of fireworks he's like, oh, we have to go to church parking a lot. So we go there and like there's a bunch of different groups in the parking lot and there's this group of teenagers that's just like shooting them off kind of and like one of them like goes the wrong way and I'm like, we're going to die tonight.
00:10:43
Speaker
Yeah. Like I felt like I – all the fireworks going off, I was so overstimulated. This has never happened to me before. But I was like, we're at war. Like this is what it feels like to be in war. it was a lot. I think it's your anxiety.
00:10:55
Speaker
Yeah. And that's anxiety. It's true though. Like if you're a little on edge during like fireworks and like the 4th of July, I feel like you're like, well, my mom was kind of on edge. And so like that made me be like, do I need to be on edge? And then my dad kept asking the kids to come light the fireworks. And I'm like, please don't. Yeah.
00:11:13
Speaker
Which I don't know if I should tell this side note tangent, but now I have to. yeah The reason that fireworks and my dad freaked me out is because when I was probably nine years old, him and his brother, so my uncle, were doing dry ice bombs, you know, like any...
00:11:27
Speaker
35-year-old dads will do. 40-year-old dads just, like, doing dry ice bombs in our front yard. Oh, gosh. And he's doing them, and he does one in a Gatorade bottle, so it's so thick it won't blow up. Oh, no. And so it's just sitting there for probably 40 minutes. They're, like, throwing a basketball at it. it's not It's not blowing up.
00:11:43
Speaker
So probably after, like, an hour, he's like, Haley, will you go get that and hand it to me? Oh, He swears that he didn't tell me to do it. But – In my nine-year-old brain or 10-year-old brain, however old I was, there's no way I would go pick it up without my dad telling me. Yeah. Like, I wouldn't... You're not like... I wasn't... You're not like... I'm like, woo!
00:11:59
Speaker
I'm like, yeah. Okay. So I go pick it up. And I know that he told me to bring it to him because he was waiting for me. Like, he was standing in the driveway waiting for me to give it to him. So I'm walking with it and it blows up in my face.
00:12:11
Speaker
Oh, that had to freak you out so Did you fall over? I didn't fall over, but I just like everything, like I saw stars and like there was ringing in my Your flashed before your life flashed before my
Fireworks Anxiety from Childhood
00:12:20
Speaker
eyes. So like when I see my dad do lighting off the fireworks, I have a little bit of trauma and I'm like, no, like one's going to blow up.
00:12:28
Speaker
Isn't it kind of wild how your nine-year-old self feels things so deeply? Like I had an experience where I died and came back to life when I was nine. What happened? I crashed on my four-wheeler and I think I was just being – but I believed it 100%, it was just being super dramatic. But like my life flashed before my head.
00:12:46
Speaker
So what was heaven like? Yeah, honestly, i saw my whole life that I had accomplished. I don't know. I don't truly remember, but remember telling everybody that. And we literally just like tipped the four-wheeler. you recall She was conscious the whole time. Your parents were like, no. They actually yeah we kind of like, no.
00:13:02
Speaker
Like you didn't die? They were like, you actually were breathing the entire time. Telling everyone at school, like I came back to life. I love the theatrics.
00:13:14
Speaker
The theatrics of a nine-year-old are crazy. Can't wait till our kids are nine, honestly. Oh man, I'm already feeling that. Okay. For our 4th of July, wait, did you say everything? What else? Yeah. You said you went boating on Saturday. Was that fun? So fun.
00:13:25
Speaker
yeah Your turn. Okay. We like packed it in. Like we did everything we could possibly do. I think on the 4th of July, we like went swimming. We did a big barbecue. We did fireworks at my husband's Brother or brother or sister and brother, I guess.
00:13:39
Speaker
And then we also went to the fireworks show, which like, you know what? The fireworks show is so magical. Like, yes, your kids are staying up to like 11 or 12 at night. It was amazing. Jack hated it, though. Oh, yeah, because he's at the age where it's like he's not just a newborn. and That's like looking. It's kind of like jarring. The noise was like. Jack and I were on the same boat. Yeah.
00:13:57
Speaker
I'd never seen him be scared before, but he was like freaking out. So I like got him in a position where I could completely cover his ears and yeah he ended up being fine. but Do you have the little baby headphones? I didn't get those. I should have because that would have been very helpful. I was literally me squishing him against my body and holding his ears. Well, sometimes I don't even want to wear them though. So they like.
00:14:13
Speaker
Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. Hand over the ear works great. Well, I've taken babies to fireworks before, and like they like didn't react as strongly as he did, but he he did not enjoy. My other kids are obsessed, though, and they were like, we should play baseball in the road, to be like Sandlot where they play.
00:14:28
Speaker
So it's just so nostalgic. And the 4th of July is genuinely just like the best holiday. the And then we went boating. We went swimming like two other or three other times. like it was just like, go, go, go. So like honestly, Monday, I was like, oh, we need to recover. But it was...
00:14:43
Speaker
The best. It felt like a whole weekend of festivities. whole weekend of festivities, and it was so fun. like It's like what summer should be, right? Just celebrating, but I think by Monday, we were all like, okay, we're tired. Did you eat a hot dog on the 4th of July?
00:14:57
Speaker
i didn't have a hot dog. We did um brisket tacos, which we was absolutely amazing. That's a lot better a hot dog. ah My kids had hot dogs over the weekend, though. Oh, amazing. I'm not a hot dog girl, but I love a bratwurst. On the 4th of July? I didn't have one on the 4th of July,
00:15:12
Speaker
but Yeah. I just, did you see all the hats that were going around this year that said bad day to be a hot dog? No. They're so funny. No, it's cute. Like bad day to be, it is a bad day to be a hot dog. The 4th of July.
00:15:23
Speaker
There's got to be a stat. One day of year that everyone, everyone eats a hot dog. Makes me want a hot dog real bad. You know what talking about? The Jennifer College thing. like So, 4th of July was good. What else is going on with you? Well, happy Prime Day to everyone who celebrates.
00:15:37
Speaker
This will be in the past when you hear this. but Yeah. Did you order anything on Prime Day? I did not. Did you? No. did it. Look at this. Under consumers. I saw a TikTok a couple days ago. I'm trying to save money right now. We're trying to save money.
00:15:50
Speaker
And it said you need to be as addicted to saving money and like that dopamine rush as you do spending money. so I've been telling myself that. I'm like, that is so clippable. You've got to clip this up. No, but I'm to be like us cheering and then being like no money spent on prim day. Yeah, because usually every single time. We're better than you. Like you feel, well, and all the influencers are post. This is where I struggle being with like a quote unquote content creator influencer is don't love consuming a bunch of crap or like buying stuff just to buy stuff.
00:16:20
Speaker
That's how you make money as an influencer is you post links, obviously. Yeah. There's seasons of life where I'm just like, I don't want to buy anything. Which is good. Like, like you said, you have to be as addicted. And I do think from like the influencer perspective, I think when I, even like not being an influencer, like I do like to like, Hey, didn't you like, see what people are buying? Or even like to a friend, like, didn't you say like a year ago you wanted that coffee maker? It's now $200 off. You've got to buy it today. Yeah, no, it's true. Like the fact that you can get like the big purchase items that you,
00:16:46
Speaker
that you really want. just couldn't think of anything big that I needed or wanted besides a robot mop vacuum. Did you ever buy one? No, I still want one, but honestly, my floor, maybe that would be the pro. My fro, it's a floor. They're so dirty this summer.
00:17:00
Speaker
but like, you kind of just get used to it. just embrace it. You just embrace it. Okay, real quick on Prime Day though, I do need something. One, okay, one, which is funny thing, me and Sam literally ordered like 30 things on Amazon this month, which is just hilarious. like, we should have waited for Prime Day. They're just dumb knitnack knick-knack things, but I'm like, dang it.
00:17:19
Speaker
Why did we do all of our orders before Prime Day? Okay. And then the second thing going say is I do need something. When we were boating, my sunglasses came off, so I need a new pair of sunglasses. The Soho's brand on Amazon.
00:17:31
Speaker
Is that like a $13 brand? Yeah. They're all like eight to fifteen dollars. I bought ah so after I had eye surgery I asked my eye doctor I said should I buy really expensive sunglasses because obviously this the eye surgery I had was from sun damage Okay on my eye and so I was like okay I'm gonna wear sunglasses because it was the worst surgery of my entire life It was so painful Did I ever a show you picture of my eye during that time? And I remember seeing It was disgusting.
00:17:56
Speaker
Anyway, so I asked him, I was like, do more expensive sunglasses mean better? And he was like, absolutely not. They just need to have, they need to be polarized or have like the UV protection. Sohos, this brand, I don't know if I'm saying it right. It's S-O-J-O-S. Okay.
00:18:11
Speaker
has, I ordered nine pairs because they're like 10 bucks. Yeah. like Okay. So I could buy nine pairs. you love them? And keep them just like everywhere around my house in every single car. Love them. Okay. They're so sturdy. I'm going to try it. Amazon prime. That is propaganda. I am not falling for. It's expensive sunglasses. No, honestly though.
00:18:27
Speaker
Like, really? They're so cute. If you are going to spend a little bit more on sunglasses, I love the Quay brand. Yeah, I do like the Quay brand. Q-U-A-Y. And they always have to buy and get one free. Yeah, it's not crazy. They're not too expensive. the Soho is like literally $90 for 90 pairs of sunglasses. It's like, yeah you get a You also lose your sunglasses so easily. Like the example of them just coming off when i was boating and they sunk into the ocean. Or the ocean.
00:18:49
Speaker
The lake. Did you try to like dive in after them? It was like one of those situations where it was too, it was like too fast. I'm like, yeah, they're gone. And like, I'm not jumping in. No. like it nice Were they nice ones?
00:19:01
Speaker
They're my favorite. That's the thing. they And they don't sell them anymore. They're just made well, so they weren't crazy. They weren't like $70 or $80. You posted about them. um I know and they don't sell them anymore. So I'm actually the sound you like a reverse image search.
00:19:16
Speaker
That's a good idea. I should do that. And look the thing I loved about them. They felt heavy like and they were quality comfy. Yes, because I do have one brand from Amazon, which I do really like them. But when I compare the two, they do you can tell it's more sturdy. i know. i Also, just order a bunch of pairs from Amazon and then which return them. Okay.
00:19:34
Speaker
so or Next thing um I really need to talk about. Since when did Chick-fil-A become fine dining?
Revisiting Fast Food Spending
00:19:41
Speaker
oh What? No, I'm not kidding. How much do you guys spend as a family when you go to Chick-fil-A? Do you want to something crazy?
00:19:47
Speaker
What? Me and Sam looked about how much we spent at Chick-fil-A last year. How much do you think it was? The whole year? Yeah. I'm stressed because you guys really like Chick-fil-A. Mm-hmm. Okay, hold on, let me guess. two thousand dollars $2,000. It was like almost $3,000.
00:20:01
Speaker
Can you believe that? That is crazy. did Did they send you a letter? Like Chick-fil-A should have sent you a letter. Like we were looking at all of our finances and like that was one of our top categories. We're like, what's Chick-fil-A? But okay, I want to know what your average order value is every time.
00:20:13
Speaker
i feel like it has gone up because I swear it used to be like around $25 for our family. Now I feel like it's like closer to $40. No. My order for the kids and I if we're out and about and I didn't pack lunch We need to go to chick-fil-a. I get myself a meal and then I get my kids a chicken nugget meal to share That's two meals. so It is $30. That's crazy every single time I also feel like this is gonna sound sad, but i we haven't been going this much as much this year because I figured out you One we spent way too much ah and like I don't know. It's hitting as hard as it will they change the fries but did you know that they're like not as salty hmm yeah something they like tried to make them healthier but yeah chick-fil-a when did chick-fil-a become fine dining that's what i want to know going and spending but if we get my whole family what they want which is a kid's meal obviously yeah and two meals so three kids meals two parent meals it is like 57 too expensive doing does really hit though chick-fil-a breakfast
00:21:05
Speaker
don't Don't get me started, actually. Chick-fil-A breakfast is so good. And you made fun of me for this the other day, but their iced coffee is good. Really? No, you literally were like, I need to It is so good. It's like $2 for a big one.
00:21:17
Speaker
Yeah. And I can't like promise it's the healthiest coffee in the world, but is good. can't imagine that it is. Next time you get... Chick-fil-A breakfast. Get a vanilla iced latte.
00:21:28
Speaker
I will say, like, since I have been making coffee at home, I i i you need like, i need a say like say save in my mind of, like, okay, I can't drink it right now. I could have to wait until I go get breakfast. I know. And that kind of makes me sad. Some people drink, like, four coffees a day. You're fine. And you're not breastfeeding anymore. True. You can drink as as you want.
00:21:46
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like I can, too. At night, I, like, get excited about my morning coffee. Do you? Not right now. It's, like, something that, like... Breaks me joy. No, i you've nailed it. When you made me one when we went skiing this year, it was so good. I even have a better recipe now. I will. Did you change the beans?
00:22:02
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I didn't change the beans, but I've been doing like an iced coffee and I watch, I am obsessed with TikToks. I love like, did you know this about me? If I'm either on like my reels, you'll either see like Love Island Parenting Hacks and then there's um...
00:22:16
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like cooking or iced coffee making meals. Like I love watching cooking meals. Mine is matcha right now. I'm not kidding. My TikTok, every other TikTok is matcha. And I cannot get it mine to look the way that all the other ones look but then I think it's because they're spending like a hundred dollars on matcha probably they have the whole setup but it's so satisfying I got the whole whisk and everything and I'm like doing the hand motions I don't know don't like matcha though by the way by the way you don't like bunco and I don't like matcha one last thing we went to a childhood dream concert last night which was actually my second time seeing her in concert I saw her the last time when I think when I was 15
00:22:50
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We went to the Kesha concert on her opening night in Utah.
Kesha Concert Disappointment
00:22:54
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And if you have been on Kesha TikTok lately, you saw that Utah was not happy with with her performance. And now everyone's like, oh, you like stupid Utah people like hate Kesha.
00:23:05
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I have been watching videos of her other performances, like the other one, the one she did in LA. can't remember. Does it seem better? It seems like a different concert. She wore different outfits. She sang different songs.
00:23:15
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There was twice as many dancers. Like, it was a different production. So I just want to put it out there to everyone hating on Utah. That it's possible. That it is possible that maybe she just did a bad job in Utah.
00:23:28
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It's possible. i think, like... I'll be honest, if I kind of feel the same way as you do. Like, when I went to the actual concert, I was like, wow, this is bad. But then looking back it, I'm like, maybe it wasn't as bad as I thought it was. No, there was one point.
00:23:40
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So she came out hot. She came out hot and we're like, let's go. Like, this is fine. she looked By the way, she walked right by us. and She literally... You touched her, right? I can't remember if I touched her, but I have a video of her like pointing at me going like this.
00:23:52
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How exciting. And like literally she's looking right at me. Like we are connecting. So she came out hot. She did that. And then things just got weirder and weirder and weirder. They were having a lot of technical issues. Oh, is that why there were so many breaks? Because that was a lot part of the weird part. Which like I've been to a lot of concerts. I get there's costume changes. There's things. But the breaks were like 10 minutes long. And also her mic kept coming off.
00:24:15
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Oh, that was happening. a lot the like when she was trying to sing, her mic would come off and so she wasn't singing a lot. So I just want to stand up for the people in Utah that are getting ridiculed right now for not liking the concert. Because was pretty bad.
00:24:29
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Did you see the TikTok where it's like the top comments like, well, that's because you're wearing a Miss Rachel outfit. I'm like, actually true though. No, we were literally not dressed for the questions. did not. We did not know we were going, to be fair, until like the night before. Yeah. So we didn't have a lot of time to like get our gems together. We should have. We should have. Our sparkle outfits and our corsets were actually still in storage. Yes. So we didn't really address the part, but it's so true.
00:24:56
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But there's one point where she's like dancing. And I think the weirdest part wasn't her. and was the men that she was dancing with were giving like retired school teacher pedophile.
00:25:13
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I'm not kidding. And you can't take this out because I know that that's going to shock people. but like the backup dancers were creeping me out. Yeah. So badly. And like, I get it. It's a sexual, but like if I'm watching someone be sexual on stage, I will at least want them to be hot.
00:25:28
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yeah Yeah, it wasn't quite the weird experience. I think like, there's two things. One, I actually think it was pretty weird. And like her voice was not good. Like not trying to be rude. Like there were moments. No, but her mic kept coming off. There were moments, but it was almost like she's like, and it'd be quiet, talk.
00:25:44
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Like she would like stop say singing the song. Yeah, there was a lot of just... weirdness at one point i look over at Becca and she's literally just like this one this is gonna be my second point is like maybe it's me like honestly maybe it's me no I said that when we were walking to the car I was like did Kesha get bad or did we get old yeah there's definitely like and I don't want to say she got bad because like there's a lot of lore behind Kesha and her whole resurgence and coming back and it's honestly a really cool story but the production value of the concert was not good yeah
00:26:17
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And we are getting old. Objectively. And we are getting old. So. Okay. And we were sober. So that could have been an issue. I was actually thinking, I'm like, I bet if you're high right now with the all the lights and stuff, this would be very enjoyable.
00:26:28
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Yeah. And like you wouldn't hear the sounds as much. And and I did feel like we were being a bit of a downer. Like I was thinking that after. I'm like, oh, was kind of being a downer at that concert. No, we tried. And like the people behind us were probably like, these girls are lame. No, we tried. Because when she came out, we were like, we were dancing. We were doing it. And then it was like.
00:26:46
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Okay, this is going to work. That was a very interesting conversation. It was really We're either getting old or maybe Kesha just didn't hit. Yeah. All right. Well, into our episode, we are going to be talking about propaganda we're falling for or what's the other way have previously fallen for as moms specifically.
00:27:04
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And then or aren't falling for anymore. Yes. Right? Yes. There is so much marketing propaganda directed to moms. yeah And when you're becoming a mom for the first time, you feel you're just so susceptible to this propaganda. Yeah. Because you're like, I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah. This company is telling me that if I don't have this specific swaddle, that my kid's never going to sleep. So of course you're buying it. Like yep it is so easy.
00:27:27
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So if you're a first time mom or second time mom or whatever... This will be a helpful episode because I feel like as third moms of three kids, we've been through three newborn phases, three of that, and we kind of know what propaganda we actually didn't need to fall for. Yes, and I will say the disclaimer here is that, like, live your own life. You know what I mean? Like, I think, like, there's so much pressure to do gentle parenting or...
00:27:52
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I don't even know all the other methods, but Montessori, whatever. But, like, you know what works for you, and, like, you'll figure that out over time, and it's also totally fine to change your mind. Like, can be, like, this parent that, like, thinks you're going to do X, Y, and Z and, like, homesteading, and then, like, no, I want to work, and I want to have a nanny, i and want to do all the stuff. Like, that's fine, too. You can change your mind. You can change your mind.
00:28:09
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The whole... Okay, so I'll say the first thing that I fell for as a first-time mom.
New Mom Myths and Pressures
00:28:14
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Propaganda. Okay. is I was so stressed about this, and this was probably postpartum anxiety, now looking back on it, I would not wash my newborn's clothes with my husband and I's clothes because she had to have a special scent-free, dye-free, natural laundry detergent.
00:28:31
Speaker
Oh my gosh. That was so expensive. But i was like, no, she, like, we can't use... Was it the one that they, like, say is actually a bad one now? Dre or whatever? Maybe. It probably was. And so, not me over here. And you're... When you have a newborn, you're doing a lot of laundry. Yeah. I'm over here watching her stuff in a full extra load.
00:28:48
Speaker
Once I had my third kid... it's you're We're lucky if it gets washed. Yeah. Okay? And we're throwing everything in there. We're throwing towels. We're throwing burp rugs. We're throwing everything in. And we're using good old Tide. Yep. Because it is fine. And you do not need unless you really want it to be. And if you're going to do the natural...
00:29:05
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detergent, which I think is great. Just do it for your whole family. Don't do separate loads. Yep, exactly. So that was my first propaganda I fell for. feel like one that I fell for or like really wanted, I really wanted to be this parent and didn't end being it and I think that, I think it ended up being okay.
00:29:21
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Is like, do you know how, like, i don't know it's just very popular when we had our first kid, but they would like take, um, your kid would take a picture every single month, like them getting older, like month one, month two. And like they had to be in all of like the cutest outfits too. With the little wooden signs. Yes. Styled shoots every single month. And, um, one, I didn't end up doing it. I really wanted to be that person. that I didn't keep up with it.
00:29:43
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Two, like, I think clothes, like, especially for your newborns, like, you feel so much pressure to get, like, these cutest outfits. And, like, yes there are so many cute things. But it's, like, the functionality over fashion, for sure. The propaganda just set up of expensive baby clothing in general, that is propaganda I fell for. That is so ridiculous. Yeah. I feel like have, like, a handful of, like, cute outfits. Yes. And millions of the zip-ups.
00:30:06
Speaker
Or millions of onesies. Yes. Can we normally just, like, putting kids in a onesie? Or a diaper? Yeah. Graham, my two year old, he lives in a diaper and you know what? He loves his life. Yeah. Jack has diapers and hand-me-downs. So seriously. And do you know what?
00:30:20
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How happy is he? He's happy. He doesn't even know he's not in the cute outfits. Doesn't even matter. Okay. just going to rapid fire some ideas of maybe things that we've fallen for or that other people have fallen for. Yeah.
00:30:32
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And talk about them. Again, if this is something that you love and you swear by, don't let us yuck your yum. Yeah. Yeah. You can love it too. This is just our personal opinion. Okay, first one.
00:30:43
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A $1,000 stroller that will will change your life as a mom. I fell for this so bad. I literally was just telling Sam. I was prepping for this episode, and I'm like, okay, tell something that you've fallen for. Did you say the stroller? We both agreed on the stroller. We got the Uppa Baby, and it's just like... Everyone did.
00:30:57
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Everyone did. It's just not worth it now. I wish I got a single stroller. To be fair, at the time, Uppa Baby Vista was like the only... Kind of like... Everyone had it Everyone had it. Everyone had it. I didn't have it.
00:31:09
Speaker
Because my parents were like, we'll buy you a stroller for like your baby gift for your first baby. And I was like, great. I want the Up a Baby Fista. And they were like, that's not happening. ah So I didn't get it. I got the Mockingbird. But it was before the Mockingbird even was like available at Target, anywhere. Like no one knew about the Mockingbird. That dupe, right? Yes. And they actually sent it to me for free, I think. Oh, amazing. I ended up getting two somehow. I don't know. I had two.
00:31:30
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But... No. I... no i Don't think you need the most expensive stroller. i think there are some things that are worth it, a.k.a. you are passionate about this, the stroller that you used with Jack. Yeah, I'll bring that up on Propaganda I am falling for, but I will say, like, one thing, this is more logistics standpoint.
00:31:51
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People pointed this out to me and I did not listen, so don't feel like you need to listen. I like wanted a two-person stroller. That's a big reason why I got the Up a Baby Vista. Because you can then do it with two kids. Yes.
00:32:02
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I never, ever use the two-person stroller. Well, no. Because it's so hard to steer it. so heavy. When you have a kid in the front. ah So here would be my suggestion. If I was to go against it, go for it now. A single stroller, just a regular single stroller for one baby.
00:32:16
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Yeah. Just a normal one that can click in with a car seat and is comfortable, has some storage. Number two, once I have two kids, get a side-by-side stroller. Side-by-side. 100%. That is what I have right now. That is what I figured out with my third kid is just one baby stroller and then I have a double side-by-side jogging stroller that my third can also fit on like the end. Yeah. so we went to Disneyland.
00:32:36
Speaker
That's all you need. You don't need more. And you don't need the $600, $500 wagon either. Yeah. Those do look sweet, though. They do look really cool. They had, like, a Volkswagen limited edition one, and I think it was, like, $2,000. Like, no, I'm sorry. Get the Costco wagon. That is crazy. No, the Costco Red Ryder wagon, if you're going to get a wagon, works great. Works great.
00:32:57
Speaker
Okay. um The whole idea, propaganda we're not falling for, is screens will rot their brain. I mean, this to an extent. I disagree. I think if you're... If your kids never get screens, they're actually like can become obsessed with it. Because if they like go to someone's house or they like see someone with a screen, you don't want them to be the kid that either with screens or candy never get it. and then they go to their friend's house it's all they want to do. Yep. I completely agree. I think it's like...
00:33:23
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It's one of those things that yeah it's just there's a time and a place, right? Okay, here's a great example. When you're your limit, let's take your example. You're pregnant and you have a toddler. Use screens all day long. you Use them as a tool. Use them as a tool to survive.
00:33:36
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And, like, also there's, like, options out there. Like, my kids love this YouTube channel. It's, like, an outdoor adventure YouTube channel. I feel so much better than watching that. like And I notice that, like, they're not as whiny after when they watch, like, Spidey and Amazing Friends.
00:33:49
Speaker
They're so whiny. yeah And they beg for that show because it's they have the like stimulants, you know? Spidey and he's amazing. Trust me, they still watch all the time. Or like Sandlot. Like like ah I would say though, my kids have been saying idiot from Sandlot. I'm like, great. Sandlot was great. Honestly, favorite movie of all time.
00:34:06
Speaker
Like it really is such a classic. you play ball like a girl. And I'm like, that's a good thing. Like, no, girls play ball really well. No, I do think some screens are better than others. Like we if I'm doing the girl's hair, I can't just raw dog it. I can't yeah have them sitting there while I'm doing their hair or else we're both ending up in tears.
00:34:25
Speaker
So we have an app called Khan Academy that like teaches them things. yeah, I've seen that one. Yes. And so like, that's a great option. Also, if they like today, my girls watched Little Mermaid, that's okay too. Yep. It's okay. Use a plan. They're going to be okay. They will survive. um Hopefully. We don't know, actually.
00:34:39
Speaker
Okay. You'll bounce back in six weeks. why I did truly believe this. I thought six weeks, everything was back to normal. You can have sex again. Your body's going to look the same. You're going to feel the same. Yep.
00:34:51
Speaker
Absolutely not. It takes me a good year to feel like myself. It's so true. It takes time. So just be patient with yourself, with your physical health, with your mental health. Like, postpartum is a journey. That's for sure. Oh, wait, you didn't say this one. I actually think it's a good one.
00:35:04
Speaker
Wooden toys is greater than plastic. You're a better parent use wooden toys. Okay, I did fall for this. Same. i did fall for this because I don't know where I saw somewhere that like, well, if they're chewing on wood, like wood is natural. And if they're chewing on plastic, like they'll have microplastics. thought it was like an aesthetic thing. And like Montessori. It was also in an aesthetic thing.
00:35:21
Speaker
Like, I'm sorry. My kids hate, I got like the wood blocks. sorry. Like, what is this shit? Yeah. that they Like, they don't... Kids want to play with wood blocks. Yeah. They want to play with plastic, bright toys that make noise that I want throw out the window. It's so true. Okay, these next two are sleep.
00:35:36
Speaker
They'll sleep through the night if you follow this exact method. You
Debating Baby Gear Necessities
00:35:40
Speaker
need to buy the $1,600,000... Or, snoop. yeah um so sno was under some I saw that. Snoop. Allegation. Yes. But have some friends who swear by the snoop. I know. It's one of those things where it's so expensive, though. I'm like, do people swear by it because they spent the money and they don't want to double back and be like, or they're doubling back and they're like, or... This is my philosophy.
00:36:04
Speaker
I think if you, whatever you need to do to sleep, do do it. it. It is worth every penny because your mental health is so much better if you can sleep. So do if it's a night nurse, if it's a SNOO, if it's sleep training, if it's sleeping in your bed, they yeah you got to do you. Just don't feel like you have to buy the SNOO or you're not going to sleep. Don't feel like it's the only option. That's what I'm saying is like...
00:36:25
Speaker
I do feel like sometimes people are like, well, if you want a baby to sleep, you have to do the sleep method or you have to do the snoo. Because one kid might love the snoo, the other one might absolutely hate it. And it might be a nightmare trying to get them out of the snoo because they're constantly like being rocked. And then once they grow out of it.
00:36:40
Speaker
yeah And they'll be a terrible sleeper. i My friend, um Alex, she listens. Hi, Alex. ah She literally had, it I think she would travel with her snoot because her kid like needed it because it like helped so much.
00:36:51
Speaker
So I know she like swears by it, but it's also like, you know, then you have to also travel with snoot too. So. No, that's crazy. But also do what you got to do to sleep. Yep. Okay. The more extravagant the birthday party, the more you love your kid.
00:37:04
Speaker
True. No, just kidding. This is true. No, I used to feel really guilty about this because in the age of Instagram and Pinterest moms, the parties are crazy. The parties are partying.
00:37:17
Speaker
The parties are partying. And do you know what? I don't the budget or the time to make a 75 foot balloon arch for my two year old when all they want is a Costco cake. Yep. I know. It's so hard.
00:37:28
Speaker
here's Here's my thought. I think like Years one through five when they really don't care, but oh minimal. Yeah. the first party. Make the day about them and make it fun. Like the party number one, it's like that's just for other people.
00:37:39
Speaker
The first birthday is for For you as the mom. Honestly, I think it's fun to have like a at first birthday party because it's like you did it mom. You made it through the first year. If you want to do a cake smash, if you want to do that. But my five-year-old this year was just like, I want to go see Wicked kid and get my nails done. And I was like, done.
00:37:53
Speaker
Let's do it. I feel like, I think a lot of parents do every other year as like a friend party. I think that's a good philosophy. Yeah. We did that growing up. Okay, um, bottle sterilizers. Did you ever use these?
00:38:04
Speaker
No, but I want to get, I wanted to get one of those so bad for Jack. Okay, yes. Because of all the germs the winter. I know all the germs, but I saw something that said boiling a pot of hot water works just as well.
00:38:16
Speaker
Or they have those, like, microwavable ones. Yeah, I think it's, like, efficiency, but, like, having something on your counter is really annoying. yeah it Yeah, I do not like extra baby stuff, like wipe warmers. I don't like wipe warmers. I don't like...
00:38:28
Speaker
bottle sterilizers. yeah I've never tried it, so I don't want to say I haven't, like, I wouldn't fall for it, but the baby Brezza, it's basically like an espresso machine. yeah, I've seen those. I think if you're, like, doing exclusively formula feeding, maybe it would be worth it.
00:38:44
Speaker
I mean, it looks cool. What I do think there are, like, splurge items that are, people would probably say, okay, this is worth it, like a sterilizer or the formula. Sterilizer. Feralizer. Feralizer. Or the formula bottle. I actually feel like people do swear to those Or like maybe you twins and you are constantly making bottles all the time.
00:38:59
Speaker
I'm like, it's honestly to each their own, but don't feel like you need all these expensive things basically. Actually, you should talk about how like your diaper bag is just like a tiny little pouch now. Yes. Okay. posted a TikTok this week and it went semi-viral because people are passionate about this. But I basically showed my little pouch and was like, my biggest mom flex is as a third pouch.
00:39:17
Speaker
time parent, this is my diaper bag and it's just like diapers and wipes. And the moms went off in the comments. It was so funny. Some of them were like, mine is just like a diaper in my back pocket and a prayer. Or like, I get really, but i Another mom that has diaper with her.
00:39:31
Speaker
Yes. I got, this is propaganda, we'll just talk about this, as the diaper bag. Yeah. I thought that I had to have the most expensive. I did like hours of research. Oh, hours. And i was like, it needs to be leather. It needs to have this insulated pocket.
00:39:44
Speaker
It is going to have smashed up Cheerios and dirty diapers in it. Like... If having an aesthetic diaper bag makes you feel better as a mom and more put together and makes you feel cuter, 100% go for it.
00:39:55
Speaker
But don't feel like you need to spend what I did, $250, on a leather designer diaper bag that is just going to get trashed. Exactly. I think you can keep a lot in a pouch and then keep stuff in your car. I am a pouch mom. You're always a step away from your car. You know what i mean? You can keep the change clothes. the metal console is for. Yeah, exactly. It's for diapers and wipes.
00:40:16
Speaker
Okay, um baby food makers. Did you ever do this? I didn't do this. i I've always done baby led weaning. So have And not because I thought it was better, but because I was lazy. Because it's like, this is making purees, right? Yes. like me And they have machines that will grind up green beans and carrots. I think our moms, this is more their day and age. Yeah. Because I'm pretty sure my mom like made all of our baby food. Well, it's kind of, that's probably good. Yeah, but now baby, baby, baby, baby.
00:40:44
Speaker
Baby led weaning is so much easier, especially with multiple children. Yeah. Because like, we're eating dino nuggets. You can eat dino nuggets. Dino nuggets or blueberries or a version of it.
00:40:55
Speaker
And then just makes things easier. It's true. um I also feel like sometimes those things are just like hard to clean. Like I had like, I bought like yeah some of those with my first kid. I bought like all of the like little things.
00:41:06
Speaker
binky things you put food in and they suck on and like honestly they were just hard to clean. Yeah, no, they're really hard clean. Okay, wait, this is funny. Portable white noise machines in the car. White noise is interesting because I feel like people are even, that's the thing that's annoying of like, you can change your mind and people change their mind. Like it used to be like, you have to have white noise for your baby to then everything came out that it was like bad for them. Right. But I'm, again, if it gets them to sleep, use it I love our sound machine. I've never used, yeah, we use sound machines in our kids' rooms to this day, but I've never used a portable one.
00:41:37
Speaker
If I had a baby that had a hard time sleeping or settling in the car or out, I would 100% buy one of those. Yeah, exactly. So try what you got to try. I also think like with each baby, you do relax a little bit. Like everything doesn't have to be um perfect with sleep, with scheduling, like they're more adaptable, all those things. They're more adaptable. Like they just fall asleep even if the kids are crying. And if they don't, then you just like they have you have to be out and about more. Speaking of diapers, actually. So we went camping a couple weekends ago. Yeah.
00:42:04
Speaker
I was in charge of packing for the kids. And da we were camping in the middle of nowhere. I didn't have diapers. I didn't pack diapers. Oh no. And so there's like two gas stations. I'm like, they're going have diapers.
00:42:15
Speaker
Go to the first one. No diapers. Oh no. Drive 30 minutes to the next one. Cause they said they had him. No diapers. So the clerk at the gas station is like, Oh, what size is he? Like my daughter has a son. oh Drives to her house.
00:42:29
Speaker
Venmo'd her $10 for seven diapers. Most expensive diapers probably I've ever bought, but like, how nice was that? How nice is that? I mean, she lived like... How did they leave the... How did she leave the store alone?
00:42:39
Speaker
I don't know, because she was working, and then she came back with two kids to give us the diapers. But she lived like... Oh, she's like... It like campsite. I think she lived at the campsite. Oh, oh, oh. That's perfect. But still, I'm like... So even if you're...
00:42:51
Speaker
When you're a first-time mom, you're like, well, what about all these situations where I'm going to need all these things and I'm going to be stuck? Yeah. Like, you're so stressed about it. And, like, somehow you make it work. Somehow, I was camping in the middle of nowhere as a third-time mom.
00:43:03
Speaker
Son didn't have a single diaper and we still figured it out. You make it work, honestly. You make it work. Not best-case scenario, but... yeah Better to be prepared, but it's fine. Okay, going into like the deep dive ones. This is such a good one. Social media perfection.
00:43:17
Speaker
We thought we had to have like neutral nurseries, aesthetic toy bins, and matching outfits daily. ah Did you fall for that? um With my first, she had a matching bow with every single outfit. That girl had...
00:43:31
Speaker
60 70 probably more actually bows i so like it was like the time of like beige everything so was like if you had the little toy car that was red you painted that beige yeah you sad beige mom sad which i am glad the sad beige mom is ending i mean i do get overstimulated overstimulated by like the outfits that are like mom's favorite trucker
00:43:54
Speaker
I don't favorite trucker. I don't think that's a shirt. the boy shirts that say like mom's big boy or something. I don't think they say mom's favorite trucker.
00:44:04
Speaker
I bet you. i I'm going to find one. One of them says that. So like when it comes to clothes, I do like things that don't have a ton of words. But also you better believe my two-year-old for his birthday, um he loves excavators. It's like yeah favorite word to say.
00:44:18
Speaker
For his birthday party, we bought him a shirt that says I'm digging being two with a big excavator. That's cute. So ugly. Honestly, I hate shirts like that, but the kids love them. love them. Okay. um Your house has to be pristine when you bring the hip baby home. i actually am falling for that. I fall for that every single damn time.
00:44:34
Speaker
have Have you seen the videos where they're showing the baby, like, and these are the baseboards we dusted, and these are the light fixtures that we had to replace, and this is the new tile we had to put in, like, showing my baby what we were bringing him home to? It's nesting.
00:44:47
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It is nesting. Natural. And you know what? no nothing motivates... My husband to get things done like a baby coming. Yep, exactly. Okay, morning sickness. This is so true. Morning sickness is all day long. It's all day long. It's all night long. It's all 24-7, seven days a week.
00:45:03
Speaker
but I feel like I had worse night sickness than morning sickness. I do too. Okay, if you miss one nap, you basically failed for the day. Yes. I definitely felt this a hundred, like I would go out of my way to not do stuff because of nap time. Now I like kind of use nap time as excuse.
00:45:18
Speaker
I got to get home from their nap. It's like deal. if it's something I really want to do, I'm like he can nap in the car. Exactly. And like I um i put this on propaganda. I'm falling for as like baby wearing. i One of the biggest like things I've been so grateful for this year is being able to like wear Jack for the year. Like I've worn him so much more than I wore any of my other kids. Okay, wait, wait, wait.
00:45:39
Speaker
I have to ask though. Yeah. Because you have the Artipop. A hundred percent. Is the propaganda worth it? A hundred percent. Even more than like the Wild Bird or the Maybe Baby. I haven't had the other ones, but I would say like that is something that's been like totally worth it is that Artipop because I have used that, the crap out of it and it's been so comfortable and cute. Can you wash it? You can wash it and just air dry it.
00:46:00
Speaker
Okay. It's very flattering. And I just think like him sleeping on me for naps or like just doing things with when I'm wearing him like it's been so much more enjoyable and having two hands to help with the other boys while wearing him yeah versus like laying him down for every single nap maybe wearing is propaganda that we've tried and true okay um Good moms don't yell. Oh wait, should we do this one? Okay, don't don't like spoil your baby. I heard this so much and it was like, don't let them nap on you, you'll spoil them. And my mom always says, it's impossible to spoil a baby. agree. they're a baby. Like if they need to take a nap on you that day, that's okay. I think you can create like unhealthy habits.
00:46:37
Speaker
But when they're older, you can't really do that when they're a baby. Like, let them contact an app. I completely agree. I'm, like, i i felt so, like, worried about that with my first. And now I'm, like, again, the baby wearing is perfect They'll figure it out. um Postpartum is the quote-unquote trenches.
00:46:53
Speaker
i think it can be, but it doesn't mean it has to be or that's that's always the situation. For me, pregnancy is a million times worse than postpartum. pregnancy is my trenches so this is postpartum that i i was just so nervous i remember like people telling me like oh just wait like it's so hard like you're gonna be so depressed you're gonna be so this like even in the hospital they kind of freaked me out a little bit and with my first i had the time of my life i was so happy it's also just such a special time and like the best part is you get the reward like Being pregnant, you're exhausted and you don't have your baby. And then when you're postpartum, you have your baby. And I don't want to say that for people, it's not the trenches because like it totally can be like, I want to validate that postpartum anxiety, depression, that stuff is so real. And I have experienced it with other kids, but it doesn't have to be that. So like go into it knowing it's a possibility, but not with the fear of like, oh, I don't even want to get pregnant because I've heard that postpartum is just the trenches. Yeah, exactly.
00:47:49
Speaker
good moms don't yell this is such a good one actually so i was asking sam like propaganda that my husband of propaganda that he has fallen for and he's like i follow this account on instagram he's like i love what they say he's like i completely agree with everything they say they like say stuff oh when you do this to your kid you're like scar basically saying like you're scarring them life and he's like it's honestly like such good content he's like sometimes it does make me feel so guilty yeah and i'm like i love this thing like good moms don't yell like That's not true. like It's not true. I saw actually it was good moms sometimes yell and always repair. Yeah. And I'm like, that's such get better advice. It's like, you're going to hit your breaking point. You're human. You're not, it's not going to make you a bad person. No, you're not a bad mom. If you also just like have a bad parenting moment. Yeah. You're becoming a parent for the first time too. You're figuring it out too. You're human too.
00:48:36
Speaker
And I promise that your kids are going to get over it even if you yell at them and then say sorry. Yeah. And you can't repair it. Sometimes they need to be yelled at. the fact that you're even looking at these parenting things and like, want to become a better parent, that shows that you are a good parent.
00:48:50
Speaker
Okay. This one could be controversial, but we we can end on this one. Okay. um Natural equals better. This is definitely propaganda, I think, that lots of people feel pressured by right now.
00:49:03
Speaker
And by natural, I mean like... Disposable diapers, not formula, not getting an epidural. Like yeah I think. Organic, yeah crunchy. There's actually a creator I follow who I love.
00:49:15
Speaker
And she was like, the propaganda I fell for was the only like way to enjoy my birth was to do natural birth. And she was like, this was not true for me. Like I had a terrible experience next time I'm doing the epidural. Like I, and I think for some people they can go through natural childbirth and have the best experience and it is the best for them.
00:49:32
Speaker
But I just really think it's one of those things when it comes to making the more, i don't even want to say natural option. I guess it is the more natural option is like, don't do it for anyone else but you. If you're doing it cause like someone, you're, I don't know, sister-in-law or friend was like, oh, you have to do it without an epidural. You have to go natural. It's so much better.
00:49:52
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then like, don't listen to that. Listen to like what you internally you're being told. Exactly. And I think a lot of this is just like your own feeling and intuition. i do appreciate there are a lot of more natural options out
Parenting Choices and Personal Preferences
00:50:04
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there. Totally. Because I think like we used to live in a world where there wasn't any like options.
00:50:08
Speaker
And now it's like yeah you have options and you get to decide what's best for you and your family. Well, you don't have to be all or nothing. Exactly. like I just bought something this week. This is propaganda I fell for is I got stainless steel plates for the kids. Oh yeah. Cause we were doing silicone for the longest time and they did start to taste like soap.
00:50:22
Speaker
Okay. That was the biggest reason, but they say that stainless steel is like so much better for them. And those little bitches were expensive. They're like $5 a plate, but that is something I fell for and makes me feel a little bit better if they're eating their dino nuggets on a stainless steel plate.
00:50:36
Speaker
Yeah. And I do it. You can or want to. Yes. Um, Okay, this is, okay, I did do a list of like propaganda I think is worth it. Baby wearing, I already talked about that. And yes, I think the Artie Pop is worth it.
00:50:47
Speaker
I know there's a dupe out there now that's just as good though. Maybe baby, I think. Yeah, maybe baby. I think they're also a local company to us. um I think 100% Duna. stroller is so worth it, especially with a third kid. I'm sure with the first kid, it's great too, but like, it's so convenient and it's 100% worth it. And other moms I've talked to agree. Yeah, no one's ever been so told me that they don't think it's worth it. I've seen on TikTok, some people don't think it's worth it. Okay, that's another like...
00:51:12
Speaker
tip, actually, if there's something you're thinking of buying, search it on TikTok. Yes. You'll see both points of view and then you can weigh out the decision in your mind. Totally. Touching grass is something I am falling for. yeah And I know that sounds cheesy, but I actually think just like doing things outdoors and like getting your kids out and yourself outside, like I actually think it makes you happier. No, it a ah hundred percent does. it not And just like you said, not just you, it's good for your kids yeah to be outside.
00:51:36
Speaker
Yeah. Okay, at home coffee or just going to get a mom drink in general. 100% makes it better. I'm falling for that. I'm falling for that every day. Okay, routine and schedules that work. I'm a big routine person, so that works for me.
00:51:50
Speaker
Okay, getting your hormones checked. You know I'm gonna talk about this all day. i know that sounds propaganda-y, but it's not. It actually like makes a difference like when you feel like yourself. What's an otter-o?
00:52:00
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ah you Sam, i remember I said I asked Sam. He said that was one of his things. He's like, this is a good thing for dads specifically. It's like this little float that goes around the kids' necks when they're a baby, and they can give them bath time. And he's like, it was my first expression. Otteroo. Otteroo. Yeah. It was such a good, like, way to bond with him and, like, yo be in the tub with him. So that was the one.
00:52:20
Speaker
And then this is another product I think is probably worth it is the Snuggle Me Organic or the Dock-a-Tot. Yeah. This worked so well for all my kids. Me too. Unfortunately, this one was worth the money. Unfortunately, was worth the
Country Music and Minivan Debates
00:52:31
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money. And my last one, this is not a baby item, country music. Yeah.
00:52:35
Speaker
That is so random. Country music makes you happier. Country music makes you happier. And like, I was, I was so against country for so long. I'm like, I'm not going to listen to country. It's so lame. you know what? We're probably going to add to this list in the future. And I really hope we don't. Minivans.
00:52:49
Speaker
I was going to say famous last words of every single mom is I will never get a minivan. And really want to. We've made it with three kids without a minivan, which honestly. you think you ever will get one? Oh my gosh, you look like you're about to see guys. No, no, no, no, no. The only thing is, see why they're good. Do you know some of them have coolers in the middle that you can literally put Diet Cokes in? mean, don't Expeditions have those too?
00:53:10
Speaker
So we live in a place where actually I don't think it'd be good to have a minivan because it snows so much and the roads are so slick. We need more like husky cars. I feel like minivans can get husky though.
00:53:20
Speaker
Do they? i don't know. I always feel you know the tires look like they're too small for the car. And you need good tires. So I don't think if we stay where we live... We're sticking with the bigger
Non-Mom Items and Personal Impact
00:53:30
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cars. Yeah.
00:53:31
Speaker
But let me know what you're getting next because I'll just copy you. Okay. Any other propaganda you fell for that's positive? um Okay. just quick rapid fire. I'm going to share like a couple of things that aren't mom related that I have fallen for.
00:53:41
Speaker
First one, red light therapy. 100%. Look into it. So many benefits. She tells me this all the time so I know she's being honest. Sourdough. Yeah. Propaganda I fell for. um Eating at home. i love that you're like sourdough. Sourdough. You're like okay. Sourdough. Submitting it.
00:53:55
Speaker
Sourdough. Self-tanner will make you happier. That salty face, shout out salty face. I'm obsessed. They changed my life. They changed my confidence. Yep. And those are
Closing Advice on Parenting Choices
00:54:05
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just a few non-mom items of propaganda I fell for. That is worth it.
00:54:09
Speaker
Okay. Well, I think like if there's any point to this episode, it's one, do what you think is going to work for you. And like our views have shifted over time. So it's normal to change your mind. And like, I think it's good for us to celebrate as moms, like what actually matters in parenting versus like judging moms for like things they do or don't do and all of that. So you're doing a great job. You're doing great. And a lot of the stuff is just propaganda. Some of it is worth it, but it's your own personal opinion. Yeah. And it's okay if you fall for it like we did. Yeah.
00:54:38
Speaker
All right. Okay. Bye guys. Bye. know