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Multiplicity

Movielife Crisis
Movielife Crisis

285 plays · May 25, 2026

What do you get when you combine Harold Ramis, Andie MacDowell, Eugene Levy, and four Michael Keatons? One of the most underrated and quotable comedies of the greatest comedy decade for movies.   Or maybe that's just us. Also, did you know what Michael Keaton's real name is?

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Speaker: Welcome to Movie Life Crisis. Join us as we watch the best movies from 30 years ago.

Speaker: This summer, make more of yourself. Doug, your clone. And get more. Two. Like in me. Three. Aye. And more. i'd like to meet four. Out of life. We made a copy. Oh, a copy. It's not quite as sharp as we original.

Speaker: Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton. How many of you are there? And Andy McDowell. What's happening? Multiplicity. Nobody has sex with my wife but me. Rated PG-13 at theaters Friday, July 12th.

Speaker: the Oh, we kind of bent rule number one. I broke it off. Doug, he mamboed right out of the area. He mamboed, Doug.

Speaker: um what I'm glad there was a video for that. I liked it. I didn't watch that. that's i The Movie Life Crisis Season 6, Episode 11, Multiplicity.

Speaker: I'm glad I didn't read any of the box office numbers or any of the reviews until I was done because I've always loved this movie and I was absolutely delighted. And I was like, oh yeah, that's right. I remember it didn't make any money and everyone hated it. I think it's fantastic.

Speaker: You know, um I started thinking about it as I was watching it. I wonder if it would have made more money if there would have been more Andy McDowell's because she had it going on in this movie, something fierce.

Speaker: um But it wouldn't have been as funny. Because... cause Groundhog Day and Multiplicity are both Harold Ramis directed films and Andy McDowell is the female lead and they're two my favorite movies.

Speaker: And every time I watch both of them, which is a lot, I'm always thinking, I'm not sure if I like Andy McDowell as an actor or if I don't like her as an actor because there's times when I feel both ways.

Speaker: Sometimes I think she's a really good straight man. Yeah. like Like letting the comedic genius just do his thing and sometimes I'm like, man, she's got freaking... Negative charisma, even though she's stupid hot.

Speaker: yeah Yeah. um I don't know. That second part is always a thing for me ah growing growing up as a young lad in 1996.

Speaker: Yeah, i don't know. I like Andy McDowell, I think. I don't know. I guess I never even think about her because there's so many Michael Keatons and ah Bill Murray's going on crazy.

Speaker: ah Dude, is this, as I was watching that when he was like, Michael Keaton, Michael Keaton, Michael Keaton, that's the same way they introduced Nutty Professor. which is also this year.

Speaker: they It's not only this year, it's out. They both are summertime releases. So Independence Day releases on earth the 4th of July and then Nutty Professor releases the next weekend. And then this one comes out the weekend after. So the one of the reasons why this movie didn't do well, the studio claimed is because it just had too much competition. Like Nutty Professor is kind of a very similar movie.

Speaker: Yeah. Like it's a comedy with a lead actor who's playing a bunch of different roles. Multiple parts. Yeah. I mean, I, I have would and did see both of them, but a lot of people said like, yeah, well, this probably is one of the reasons why I didn't do. Cause dude, this movie came out 11 days after they cloned an animal for the first time. Dolly the sheep.

Speaker: That's pretty cool. Like you think, you think it would have done well. And I don't know what is not to like about it. Cause I think it's delightful. Yeah. i keep And I keep telling people at work, they're like, oh, what's the next movie you're doing? i was like, Multiplicity. It's freaking fantastic. You know i like. Anything with barbecue sauce. And then, like, nobody knows.

Speaker: Like, there's so many people that haven't even seen it. Well, dude, i told I was talking to Kyle today. I was like, I got to record a podcast later. He's like, what's the movie? He's like, Multiplicity. He's like, she touched my peppy, Steve. Yeah, dude. That's... Yeah. There are people that know. i I'm telling Harper. I'm like, later, dude. He's like, bye, Steve. was like, all right.

Speaker: That's great. But like, there's so many that don't. people It's weird. People should watch it. It's yeah freaking... It's really good. um And we've been quoting it for years.

Speaker: i mean... Since 1996. Yeah, I was going to say, obviously since it came out, but also since we started the podcast, we've quoted it on the podcast a whole bunch times. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. right, dude.

Speaker: Give us a synopsis. All right, synopsis. A burnt-out husband and contractor clones himself to balance work and family. Unfortunately, each copy is slightly worse and weirder than the original.

Speaker: um

Speaker: And he's not Batman. I don't know. I wanted to fit Batman in there, but I couldn't figure out how to do that. I should have said a burnt out Batman husband. But I, dude, I can't tell um why I like Michael Keaton until I watch movies like this and I'm like, oh, that's right. He's hilarious and he's a good actor.

Speaker: um he freaking he He got nominated for an Oscar for acting in Birdman, which is in 2014. And i don't it seems like he should have gotten recognition a long time before then because he is great.

Speaker: Yeah, he kills him. I mean, he's like the he's the king of freaking 80s comedies, and he's bat he's the first live-action Batman, like theatrical Batman. So I get it. He's not like a critical darling, but... When you watch this movie and he's playing four characters and every one of them is distinct, but it's not just like, it's not just the costuming and the voice. You can tell like when this, when, when two, when, when the original Doug brings up three and introduces him to two before three even says anything, you can tell from his mannerisms that he's already.

Speaker: Yeah. And you can tell when it cuts to a new scene that has multiples of them, you can tell which one's which just from how he's holding himself. Yeah. Right. And even though the outfit's different. Yeah. Like this dude is such a good actor and he's great at comedy. and i've What's not to love about Michael Keaton?

Speaker: And when Michael Keaton or when number one, Doug, is talking to number two and they're hyping each other up and they're all talking like this. and they're really did for And they're both doing the same thing. But then when he's in the kitchen and he's talking to three and he's feeling vulnerable and the ah dude and it's you could see like, oh, this number one does have all of these parts.

Speaker: Yeah, probably has a little bit of four in them also. But I'm saying like. I think it's great. Lance Enrico. like Let me guess. Here we go. No, he's a $45 million dollars budget. Obviously there's a lot of green screen ah VFX and this because there's only one. It's really good though.

Speaker: It's really good. $37 million dollars gross, which ends up being the number 78 on the year behind chain reaction and high school high. What?

Speaker: We don't have Chain Reaction on our list, but I know you actually really like that movie. i thought Chain Reaction was hilarious, how they get the ah water to explode like that. I don't think it's supposed to be funny is the problem. No, I know. But in that, that's Keanu and kan from morgan Morgan Freeman. yeah And then High School High is John Lovitz.

Speaker: Yeah. Oh, man. I mean, 96 is deep, dude. Those are two stakers compared to this, as far as I'm concerned. Oh, no doubt. No doubt. But anyway, this movie didn't do well. It released in July. it was I mean, it's it's set up to be a big movie. It isn't a big movie, and so people think that it's a failure, but we love it. And ah most of the people our age, like white men born in the early 80s, think this movie is fucking hilarious.

Speaker: Yeah, of course. i do But... it has What else is it if it's not the box office of having Nutty Professor in Independence Day? Because you got a bankable star like Michael Keaton. You got a comic director like Egon. Super clean premise. A friggin' gimmick is trailer friendly. It's...

Speaker: ah just I just, why it not? guess that it's not as good as Groundhog Day. There's the, like, the philosophy underneath it isn't as important as Groundhog Day. It's not as well handled. I probably could cut some stuff out of it. It's almost two hours long. Like, the whole sailing, like, freaking side quest.

Speaker: Yeah. I mean, I like it. But, like, if you wanted to, if you wanted to trim it, you could probably, mean, sure you could make it a stronger movie. I love it Yeah. Yeah. Brian Doyle Murray is the guy he goes sailing with. That's ah as close as you're getting a bill on that one. Yeah.

Speaker: Do have any I got a refund from Walt t-shirts? No, sorry. Did you find any awards? ah No major awards. um Everybody, though, like as I'm watching all of the... um Like reading stuff about it and looking at like behind the scenes stuff. Dude, everybody is the VFX in this. Everybody is like, this is incredibly clean for the time, the timeframe it comes out in. Like when he's talking to four and he's filling up the Coke.

Speaker: Yeah. How they do that? I watched it behind the scenes and they kind of showed it, but I was still like, yeah, but like the Coke is, it's not a different glass. It's the same glass. Yeah.

Speaker: They did a really good job, dude. Yeah. Well, they I was watching some of the like making of featurettes, and there was one scene where where the original Doug was talking to Two, who's like the Burley construction worker guy. And like he they're both in frame, and one one's sitting down and one's back behind him. And the one in the front in the foreground takes a beer and throws it over his shoulder. Oh, yeah, yeah. The million-dollar shot. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and the and they were saying that like if if they're if that beer hadn't traveled exactly the way that it traveled so they could green screen it, the VFX for that would have cost them a million dollars, but because he threw it exactly where he needed it, it was like an easy throw and catch. But there's a bunch of stuff like that where they're interacting. like They're both in frame and they're high-fiving and they're touching the same stuff. Dude, this is just... Because I know how they do it now. I think they'll like remap the face on the freaking stand-in, but i don't they can't do that in 96. No.

Speaker: so I don't know how they did it. ah Can they even put faces on t-shirts? Meanwhile, that's all they can do. ah Dude, so what about when, I think it's two smoking, and he blows the smoke in yeah one's face, and you can see it going around the head? God, it's like, what are we doing? This is awesome.

Speaker: A lot of that is like over-the-shoulder cuts, and so they can have the stand-in film in the back of his head, and then they can cut the other way and reset. But, yeah, dude, a lot of the, it's, it's even for it being 30 years old, it's it's pretty seamless. Like, I'm yeah i'm watching it and freaking...

Speaker: upscaled 1080p right on my huge projector i can't tell that's what i was saying like i was like ah this is way better than i remember um do you know what no michael keaton's uh real name is not stage name uh michael douglas oh wait i think i knew that yeah but there was already a michael douglas indeed there was um which i kind of love what is a What's Michael J. Fox's real name?

Speaker: ah Michael J. Fox's real name is just Michael Fox.

Speaker: Oh. He just added the J because there was another Mike Fox. Michael Fox, that's what it was. Yeah. It's crazy. That's awesome. Michael Keaton, when he picked his stage name, um, he, like he's been asked, like it wasn't about, there was no, it wasn't because of Diane Keaton or Buster Keaton. He was like, I just took a phone book, went to K and then I got to Keaton and that seemed like a good name. And so I put that one down.

Speaker: So I just wrote that one down. yeah du That's freaking awesome. Um,

Speaker: I like me some. No sequels to this one. No. do Did you read the thing about the, um, it's weird where I found this. I was looking for the movie, clicked on the wrong thing and it brought up on Amazon.

Speaker: And then I, I saw the thing. i was like, ah, let me just see what people are saying about this. Like the, the reviews. Um, there's in 1993 mailed outline of the movie called cloned to harold ramus and he is everywhere he's on rotten tomatoes i found the guy i found this was after the fact i found him on amazon originally he's on reddit complaining about it he says he wrote this movie and they said no thank you we can't we can't do this uh we don't have really enough time and then six weeks later

Speaker: they so They start working on a Michael Keaton movie about a guy who gets cloned, and he is convinced that he did it. Here's the problem. I get that whole big beginning part. Every single time he says, I would have wrote it better.

Speaker: This guy doesn't know what he's doing. the The people who wrote it, the frigging Gans and Mandel, they didn't know funny, and I could have done it so much better. And that's where he loses a lot of credibility for me because this shit is hilarious. But also this is how he, and he's like, I have a sequel planned. I have all that. We can knock it out. If Harold Ramis would just get off his, like he's angry about the whole thing. But this guy has a sequel and he's ready.

Speaker: and So the couple problems with that is that, number one, this screenplay is based on a short story that was written right in National Lampoon years before the script was written. right Second of all, Harold Ramis is dead, so he's not going to be working on the sequel.

Speaker: Correct. and Third of all, no, no, he couldn't. he's off Well, dude, this this is ah so this happens in Hollywood all the time. Like it's they call it parallel development. It's not that like. Right. you Dude, they're working on human cloning. You don't think a lot of people thought wouldn't that be a fun idea for a movie?

Speaker: They're like this is the early 90s when they're cloning shit. It's in the it's on the cover of Time magazine. Right. That's why we got a bunch of freaking disaster movies in the same year. Armageddon and Deep Impact. And there was a third one that was in production. And when they realized there was already two coming, they're like, maybe we just will hold off on that.

Speaker: Yeah, we'll just wait. So most of what happens is not someone stole someone else's idea. It's that two people had the same idea at the same time and wrote it separately. I don't think this guy is able to understand that because the other people that were commenting on his comment were trying to tell him that.

Speaker: Yeah. ah they He's not having it. He is very he's adamant that this is the thing. That's like the dude. Remember the frickin Italian job, the remake when Seth Green is like the guy. She stole my idea. Napster was my idea. And he made everybody in the movie call him Napster.

Speaker: No, I don't remember that. Dude, you should watch Italian job again. That movie's great. so Mark Wahlberg one. Yeah. Charlize Theron. Yeah, yeah. Golly, I didn't even remember Seth Green being into that.

Speaker: Yeah, he's like he's like the computer expert. But his backstory was like he invented Napster, and his roommate was the guy who actually invented Napster. And he stole it from me, the whole thing. Oh, that's great. I've got to go back now watch that. um Yeah, but other than that, no sequels. Oh, what about the Paul Rudd TV show?

Speaker: You remember that? Called Living... Living with yourself? Living with me? No. Living yourself. um I didn't watch the whole thing. I saw a couple of episodes and I just never had enough time to go back. But that was like this.

Speaker: He does it for the same reasons. Yeah. To get more free time. But the obviously the VFX is better now because... it's like 2019 when that comes out or something like that. So yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. No relation to this project. Yeah. Not the same concept. Yeah. Same, same concept. Uh, did you see this in the theater? You remember where you saw it? I don't remember seeing it in the theater. And I feel like probably not because I don't think I did.

Speaker: Like, I know I saw independence day in the theater and I don't think we were going to theater like every single weekend. So I'm sure whenever it came out on, uh, On VHS, we rented it. Yeah. No, that was me. I definitely remember renting it a lot because I can remember ah my sister, Jen, making a joke about the cover has all the different Michael Keaton's on it. Yeah. And she was like, what are you trying to watch it for every single time he's on the cover or something like that? i was like, no, I just like it. Let's get it again.

Speaker: Yeah, it's awesome. It's like Striking Distance. You guys seen this one yet? It's great.

Speaker: Oh, is that the one with the Jewish people? No, that's Schindler's List. All right. Ratings, one to ten, no sevens. I got a nine out of ten.

Speaker: Nine. Nice. I gave it eight and a half. ah The only reason is the length. It's, dude, it's, it is long, but it didn't feel long. And I like, there's, you know, sometimes if a movie's long, I was like, there's a section there that kind of slowed down for me. But this one I yeah think is freaking, the pacing's really good.

Speaker: It's got way more quotes than you would think. And it's got way more scenes than, like, I'm trying to pick three scenes and three quotes. I got way, way too many. Way more. Way way too many. And like evaluating Michael Keaton as an actor, just playing all these different parts and also being funny and carrying the movies. God, dude, he did such a good job. Yeah. The supporting cast is they're not, dode they don't have that much to do, but they're really good.

Speaker: Yeah. Like even the kids do dirty head. Dude, the kids are good. That little girl saying that is burned into my head. Mine too, man. I remember it in crystal clear. I knew it was coming. i was like, Oh, she's going to the bottom teeth thing.

Speaker: yeah Oh, yes. and like everything about Um, yeah, I, dude, I only took off some because the whole time I was like, my problem was, is I was watching it in a truncated part of time of my day where I was like, I have two hours only to watch it. And every time I would pause to write something down, i would fall behind and i couldn't, I was just like, ah, it feels like I was rushed. Uh, and that's partly, partly because of me, but, um,

Speaker: I don't know. Maybe they could tighten it up ah just a scotch. I'm positive that you could make it a little bit shorter. I know exactly what I would take out, but I really like it. I mean, there's, you know, like the sailing stuff is, I enjoy it, even though you don't need to have it. You could just, yeah it could just be a couple of shots of him on the golf course before he realizes that he's missing out on everything.

Speaker: Right. Yeah, skip the whole sailing. ah Yeah, agreed. Let's do the best. First, let's do scenes. What's your first scene? um The first scene is when they're at the restaurant and they're both at the restaurant. Uh, number two has taken out, um, one of the girls that he works with. Yeah. One of the, I don't, I can't remember what her job is at the thing. Uh, but she works at the same construction firm, Betty Spaghetti. I think she's a pitcher. Betty Spaghetti. Yeah. Um, and they're there.

Speaker: Ah, cheesy, crazy. And Michael Keaton, one, doesn't realize that two is out. And number one is with Andy McDowell, and they're talking about stuff.

Speaker: um And she he's like, I can't let you work anymore. And then he sees number two. Dude. When he grabs her head and he's making the crazy eyes, he's like, look at me. Just look at me.

Speaker: How do i look? She's like crazy. i i I bust out laughing. and There's so much about it that's great. like they They keep getting mistaken for the other one. And so like he comes out, the real Michael Keaton, and then Ann Cusack's like...

Speaker: He's like, are you wearing a different jacket? He's like, yeah, i switched with a guy in the men's room. We just do that all the time. We do that. He's like, he's just making up shit. he's kidding And then she's like, what about pie? He's like, no, pie here sucks. Let's get out of here. this What about the waiter? Hands like the the menus and then they're like staring or the host and they're staring extra long at Michael Keaton because they know Michael Keaton's already there. And then he's hiding behind the thing. Yeah.

Speaker: And he's like, it's trying to look past, like pretend to look at the menu, but look at number two. And he's like, I don't know. Everything looks just so good here. It's just, I don't even know what to get. And she's like, that's the wine menu. He's like, I thought I had a hell of a lot of beverages on there. i Dude, I'm just peeing myself laughing. Cause I had so many quotes that I used to say, um just that whole scene.

Speaker: Fantastic. That was great. and I didn't put it on my list, but it reminds me of the one where he, when he first cloned himself and then two went into work and he didn't know it's the first day. He goes into work too and two is already there.

Speaker: And then he's like talking to the receptionist and you can tell he's making up the story like in his, like it's fricking top notch acting for Michael. He's like, He's like, didn't you? He's like, oh, well, I was, that i I was wearing the other shirt. I spoke coffee on it. And so I, have to keep a backup shirt and the truck. And then I went.

Speaker: Right, yes. So then, so I'm going to go back to the truck. And so you would next time see me. Put original truck. Like, dude, it's frigging, that was great.

Speaker: oh Yeah, I like that lady who was the receptionist. I've seen her before. Or maybe I just really remember her from this. But, um ah dude, the all those scenes where they're like, were you wearing that shirt a second ago? He's like, this? Yeah, what yeah I was wearing this. Like he was fake because two sneaks out right after they do the TTF tuk-tuk fold. I just think of Elizabeth Taylor. She tucks in a fold.

Speaker: And he sneaks out and he comes in and she's like, were you wearing that? I think I'm going crazy. um That's freaking great. all If all of the gaslighting of the women in this movie, as they're noticing that the guys are changing clothes, is not great. But in the 90s, we thought it was hilarious. Yeah. and now And now we know it's not a good thing to do to people.

Speaker: Yeah. Don't gaslight people. that's That's somebody else's job. um So what's your first one? My first one was um the one that I already talked about where two meets three because he's like he he cloned himself so that he'd have more time to do stuff and it ends up that two just goes to work for him but he's so busy taking care of the kids because his wife has gone back to work he doesn't and really have the time so he clones himself again and he brings three up to the garage to meet two and before anyone speaks you can see so clearly the three distinct personas and that's when they're doing the thing you were talking about earlier where like they're

Speaker: ah just the scenes where it's a bunch of Michael Keaton's first of all, is from a technical perspective is staggering. Yeah. But it's, so they're also so good.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Like, in and three is always like, Hey, and he's holding his hands. Like, you know, like he's, it's, you're right. It's completely different mannerisms. He's, you know, like he's standing straight up, but the other guy's like chest out and he's talking like Beetlejuice. Like, ah, dude, dude, It's so good. it's so good.

Speaker: Yeah, i was I was trying to pick scenes that had quotes because I had too many quotes, but I just, I really like that because that's the first, you're going like, oh, it's a, you know, that's a movie that has more than one Michael Keaton. You're like, oh, he clones ah someone and that person goes to work and then the whole thing is he has to figure out. It's like, oh no, shit, there's another clone.

Speaker: Yeah. And they're all very different. up God. Even because, well, because I knew he was going to make three because I've seen this a hundred times and he's telling,

Speaker: Andy McDowell and he's like, honey, I got no time. Like all I'm doing is doing laundry and doing dishes and taking care of the kids. She's like, yeah, I've been doing that for 10 years. And you could see it click in his head. Like yeah I'm going to have to do something else.

Speaker: That's freaking, that's just great. That's great. Yeah. What's your, what's your next one? Uh, my next one is when they meet four. Um, that's mine also. It's got so many good quotes. Four is the friggin... He is the least interesting of the four of them, but he's got the best quotes.

Speaker: He's always wearing the freaking aviator goggles and the stupid hat when he's not wearing the fucking rubber boot on his head. By the way, i saw a rubber boot. and It was pretty recently after seeing this at one point. And i was like, I bet could pull that over my head like Michael Keaton does.

Speaker: Dude, I thought I wasn't going to get it off and we're going to have to cut it. um That shit is tight and it's just flopping around while he's talking. I love it. um He's shaving his tongue.

Speaker: um just like he Michael Keaton comes in to talk to 2 and 3 and they spring on him that they cloned without him. They cloned one of them and the clone came out not quite right. And it's like, that's a copy of a copy. It's not as good as the original.

Speaker: And then and dude in 4 is just like, he just this first I got a wallet. A guy gave it to me. He's like holding it out. Then every dude it's in Michael Keaton's for losing it point it and he's always licking his freaking face is like I like pizza like go party thief And it's just a bunch of quotes and all of them.

Speaker: He's doing four distinct performances all in the same scene at the same time I don't understand how it happened, but it's It's like the Eddie Murphy when they're all around the dinner table. it's like, how did he do all of that? It's incredible. It was so funny. So ah on the behind the scenes thing I watched, they had some kind of a little stick that showed where his head was going to be. So he knew where to look. Yeah. But then it also had a laser on the ground.

Speaker: so they could show where he was standing when he said certain things. Right. Dude, that's a genius idea because then he replaces it. They have the spot on the ground where it's supposed to be, and he knows to move the thing there so he knows where to talk. That's what, I mean, from a production standpoint, that's genius because that was awesome. That's how they've done that for a long time. i'm guessing, like, green screen technology, is it's not brand new in 96, but it's pretty new from, like, a major like feature film standpoint. Yeah.

Speaker: like Like someone must like that's how they do it now when they do Marvel shit and it's all, everything is blue screen. It's like you're always acting to a tennis ball and people complain about the Marvel actors. Like, ah, it sucks. You're never on set with anybody. Right. But like it at some time before 96, like 91 or something, someone must have like come up with that idea.

Speaker: It's a genius idea, because to it's great to keep track of that. But even that, like with Eddie Murphy, with the dinner table scene, and Eddie Professor, he's playing off of himself, and the timing is important. So I yeah want to know how. Is that editing?

Speaker: Like how do they do that? I want to know, did he like was all that tightly scripted, or did he do some improvising, and did they record it and then play it in his ear while he's, you know, have like an earwig where he can hear what he's saying?

Speaker: Because the timing is crazy. Because it's all so natural, and i have no I don't know who to credit for it, but it's incredible.

Speaker: Yeah, it's... I mean, getting the eye line sells it a whole lot. Like, if you're... Like, you've seen Bad Green Screen, where they're supposed to be talking here, and it's like a Saturday Night Live, where you could tell they're reading the prompter over here, so they're not really looking at the person. That drives me insane when the green screen's like that. This...

Speaker: It felt like it was perfect. It was i eye to eye almost every time. yeah dude. It was incredible. i And it's it's just so enjoyable when they're all of the Michael Keatons are acting together.

Speaker: And it's freaking, I'm going I'm going watch, try to watch more about how they did this. Cause I still am kind of confused. Yeah. Dude, the I'm telling you, the if you find a good video, that's got the him pouring the Coke for four, please send it to me. Cause the one, I watched two different things and they were kind of similar and had a lot of overlapping stuff. I don't know how, like he's literally pouring it and I'm watching it slosh around the cup and four is holding the cup while it's doing it. And he brings it right to his face and drinks it. And I don't know how they did it.

Speaker: Yeah. What's, uh, what's your third scene? Um, third scene is when i guess it's all one scene it's when uh three has to stay there uh too late and they end up he ends up uh going to bed at the same time as andy mcdowell yeah and um number one he goes on a sailing trip and he's gonna have to number three fill in for him and he's like right you gotta to stay day and night he's like but remember rule number one no one sleeps with my wife except me chuckug yes i remember i remembered i remember

Speaker: uh yeah oh yeah and so yeah so he ends up um she touches his peppy steve and then um of course two can't find something to eat and he runs inside and um he's looking for food and he of course jumps over the couch and she's like oh wow that was a bit much i was can't couldn't believe Are you ready again? And then, of course, four is scared of the lightning and he comes running in and she thinks it's because she told him to go do something outside in the rain. She's like, I can't believe let's get you out of these wet clothes. And of course, she's like, again? Yeah. oh man. she And then him finding out.

Speaker: And him finding out. no Number one, finding out. And what about you? she That's my Peppy Steve. Dude. Everybody broke rule number one. Yeah.

Speaker: Damn near broke it off. Just, it was awesome. I love that whole thing. My that's a great one. I'm glad you put that in there. My third one. I have a really hard time deciding. i I went back and forth the building montage when he gets fired and his wife leaves him and takes the kids. And it's like, yeah, this is never fixed stuff.

Speaker: just because You fix stuff. You never fix stuff. So he's like he gets all the clones together. He gets Eugene Levy, his fired concrete guy whose truck, by the way, has a misspelled word on it. Did you notice see that? No, I didn't. didn't see it. Eugene Levy is the country concrete contractor that he fired that two fires, and his truck says dependable kind concrete, and dependable is spelled I-B-L instead of A-B-L.

Speaker: ah Take your New York watch and your fat L-A-S and get out of here. And so like I love a montage, and it's also hilarious, but they're also you can see even in the montage, the three of them are doing, like four is like dropping bricks on his head, and two is like wearing a shirt with the sleeves rolled up, and three has got it freaking tucked in with a collared shirt underneath it, and he's making sandwiches with the cu so crust cut off. Oh, this is delicious. I know. I know you like it. That's why I made it.

Speaker: But also, like from a movie standpoint, it's he's realized that he's he built all these he had all these clones to create time for himself, and it yeah didn't work. And so he's like, all right, to start fixing some shit, and then going to pack the clones off to Miami, and I'm going to get my family back, and I'm to start a new construction company.

Speaker: yeah Love that one. So I had that as my third. That's a good one. What's your bonus one? Yeah, what's the bonus one? bonus one is three with Andy McDowell. Just go like this. Just go like this.

Speaker: He's showing her how to wrap something in aluminum foil. He's like, honey, do you mind if I show you something? Hold on one second. This piece of foil is too small. We're going to throw it away. We're going to fold it up. Save it. Christmas time. Make a little ornament with it. are going to love it.

Speaker: was like, so we get a bigger piece. And dude, he's doing, it's the freaking Martha Stewart shit. And he's like, and air? And what is air? Air is our enemy. Air is our enemy. Because that hard part on the meat, nobody likes it. So know it's fold it. I don't like to roll then it's rolling around the fridge.

Speaker: He's like, tuck, tuck, fold. TTF. Two tucks and a fold. I just think of Elizabeth Taylor. Tuck here, a fold there. And her face while he's saying all that. and she's like... The hell is going on? Dude, and he freaking puts in the tub where he burps the tub where she puts it in the freezer. Second shelf to the left with meat products, except for... I forgot that. I freaking love. And the whole time he's like, I would just... He's very C-3PO. The whole time he's doing his whole thing. I freaking love it.

Speaker: And dude, he's telling her to fix her hair. It's just because frames your face is what it does. Just frames it. just I fucking love that scene so much. oh man. That should have been my last one. I like that one I just, I mean, i don't, I couldn't take it out of there. It's great. Yeah. Let's let's do quotes. I got a lot of quotes.

Speaker: ad do too. I got quotes that i think are hilarious and quotes that are famously associated with this movie and quotes that I just say a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your what's your first one?

Speaker: My first one is the one that I say quite a bit because people ask me if I play golf. And I go, yeah, play sometimes. And I go, well, how often? I go, well, never. I'm to to cut back.

Speaker: That's going to be bad. It didn't really hurt. Yeah. Let's see. Never? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, never. and I'm going to have to cut back. and That's going to really hurt.

Speaker: Um, I, my first one is, uh, bye Steve. Good party. Um, I say that when people leave my room, uh, at school and I really, nobody knows what I'm talking about. Uh, so I like that one.

Speaker: Um, what's your next one? My next one is, uh, she touched my peppy Steve. Cause I think it's maybe the most memorable quote from this movie. Oh, right before that, she's the she takes his pants off and she's wet pants. She's like, wow, Doug again. And he just goes, my peppy.

Speaker: And he barely says it. So I re i just jumped back like 20 seconds, turned on the subtitles to make sure i heard him. And he he just looks down and goes, my peppy. And I never caught that the first hundred times I watched it.

Speaker: I think one of the reasons why that line stuck with people our age so much is that I'm 16 in 1996, and it's a different world. But, like like, you know that if you have a consensual encounter with a young lady, it's not it's not gentlemanly to spill all the details. But you might just say to your friends the next day when they go, like, ah hey, man, what happened with the how the thing? are You go, she touched my peppy's teeth. Yeah.

Speaker: You might just hit him with that. And then you would leave it there. everybody goes. And everyone laughs. And everybody giggles. Right. So I'm like, I feel like that's why I've said and heard that so many times over the years from teenagers up until yeah whatever age I've stopped being an idiot a couple weeks ago. Dude, the fact that he calls him Steve.

Speaker: slays me every time. It's so funny. um I also had one from, from four inches. like pizza. And at the end, he, they ended up opening a pizza place. Yeah.

Speaker: And he delivers it like a newspaper, like the paper boys frigging. He's flinging boxes of pizzas off his bike. And they're spinning. It's great. The most of what four said, I could have put on there. Cause like, he's got have the boot on his head and he's like holding the fricking saw. it's like, it's have to come off.

Speaker: And he's nailing the boots to the piece of wood so he can pretend like he's skiing. And like, we're going to go SeaWorld and eat a dolphin. I'm going to pet a dolphin. Lenny, you're going to pet a dolphin. He calls him Lenny. God, that's great.

Speaker: um je sorry Yeah, I was going to say, I just started speed running because I got so many. i got like and And my third one was another one that I've said a lot over the years. Dougie Mambo'd right out of the area. i've Right out the region. Yeah.

Speaker: I definitely put that dude. All right. So in the same little box where I'm keeping my notes under that, I put, um I don't remember what this is from. A peripheral vision is one thing, but it's a bad look. what what part was that? I remember him saying it But now I didn't put the context. I just was typing so fast because I was running out of time. So he was talking with the cloning guy about the Jeff Goldblum, the fly. Yeah. He's like, are you sure that this works really well? Because I saw the fly with Jeff Goldblum. Peripheral vision is one thing, but that's a bad look. It's a bad look. Yes, very good. Yes, that's what that was from. um

Speaker: the Dude, the last one I put was... ah ah He's telling Andy McDowell that he's going to take on more at work. He's going to to do more. And she's like, really? Who's going to do it? I'll give you a hint.

Speaker: You're sleeping with him. And she's like, the video store guy? The video store guy. You know, I knew you were dating. I just didn't know if you were sleeping with him. That like back and forth just shows like they're married. They've been married for a long time and they can joke about stuff like that.

Speaker: Yeah. I love it. I love it. My last bonus quote is from almost that exact same part of the movie where – because right after that she's like, well, um so they're going to pay you more? And he's like matt that's really more of a prestige thing. Yeah.

Speaker: yeah Because I say that to people all the time, too. Like, oh, dude, new job. How's it going? Did you get a raise? It's really more of a prestige thing. Oh, God. I freaking try so hard to not do extra stuff just because.

Speaker: Same reason. um What about when he's talking to ah when number one calls to? He's like, yeah, all right. I took care of it. All right. I'll tell you what.

Speaker: uh, what should I do? i don't know. Start living it up, I guess, but, and he hangs up and I was like, oh man, that's freaking great. Two's just like picking up jobs on the way back to going to other jobs and he's hitting everything. And,

Speaker: It's great. the ah so When when guys one or two are talking on the phone, it's great. Because first of all, Michael Keaton calls his clone. The clone's like, who is this? He's like, who is this? wait wait What do you mean, who is this? It's me. It's you. Oh, us. It's us. And then ah and then later on, Annie McDowell calls two on the cell phone. He's like, hey, you got to pick up whatever the kid's name is. You got take her to ballet. He's like, see you got to pick the kids up. He's like, all right, bye. He's like, hold on a second.

Speaker: She's like, yeah she's to go to ballet. She's got to do her pictures. You got to take her home, put her in the outfit I picked out, do her hair, put the moose in. She'll show you how. She gives him like a long mom explanation. And then goes then he calls original Michael Keaton, who's getting ready to tee off. He calls one. He's hey, got pick the kids up, take to dance, get a picture or something. Bye. and then

Speaker: Yeah, he's like, i go ahead and put her a dress and take a picture of her. something like dude And he's like on the backswing, first tee, and lets the lets the club go. That's great. And it also leads to one of my favorite scenes, not from the movie standpoint, but just from like having kids. standpoint is because he's freaking chasing the girl around the house. He's like, I don't want to get dressed for a picture. I don't want to go to ballet. And then his son's like, I'm not going as you are going.

Speaker: And so he's like, got her by the arms, like a freaking football. And he's like stuffing her feet into the ballet tights. And like the other kids screaming. i was like, that's what it's like to have kids right there. Oh man. And then when he gets to the the place, Oh, by the way, the lady running the place, that's, uh, um, the lady that works in the diner.

Speaker: Yeah. Um, and Groundhog Day. Yeah. Your name is Dawn Maxie. I remember us talking about Is that also an Edgar suit? Wait, what?

Speaker: Is that also Edgar? Your skin's to hang off your bones. no No, that's a different lady. Cause she's the one from fool's rush in. That's what I always remember her other movie. Yeah. Yeah. This is a different lady. She was the, definitely the diner lady though on the other held Ramis movie.

Speaker: ah Yeah. Siobhan Hogan. i don't know how you pronounce that name. S-I-O-B-H-A-N. Ooh. I think maybe they just dropped the keyboard when they went to go type her name in. It's you Irish. Yeah, guess. But yeah, he drags her there and her freaking hair's sticking out all over the place. he's like tapping it and going, shit, that's great. The shins all wrong. He's like, you look beautiful. And she's like, oh, didn't anyone tell you the pictures have been rescheduled for tomorrow? And he's get a photographer out here right now.

Speaker: And the girl's sitting in the back and she's smiling and her tutu's like right under her tits. Like it's way up high. Ah, it's great. so But yeah, there their interactions are freaking fantastic. But then when he has to talk on the phone to three, he's like, hey man, he's like, I'm sorry I'm running late. He's like, I just wanted to come to the Lakers game He's like, you should do that.

Speaker: You should do that. You should take care of yourself, Doug. get go I got everything here. God, it's frigging all of the Michael oh stuff is great. These people just don't understand. You know, I mean, you come out here, you try to coach their kids and they don't.

Speaker: yeah You know what you should do? should put in Zach. Who's Zach? Zach's my kid. He's run more of a pro style offense. Oh, man. He's like, here, Lombardi, you take him.

Speaker: That's great. This movie only has a 49 cent, 49% on Rotten Tomatoes, even on the popcorn meter from how people. understand. What do they want? What do they want? What could you possibly want?

Speaker: I don't, I don't know. What, uh, let's do characters. Who's your first character? Bunch of dum-dums. Number four is my first character. Yeah. I, um...

Speaker: I know we've been talking about how good he is playing the other ones but that's also Michael Keaton playing a giant toddler that's a copy of a copy yeah he's childish and freaking mentally simpler than all the other ones um a dude I freaking love it it's perfect comedy right in the middle of where it needs to be he's just doing the regular jobs you know taking out the trash cutting the lawn stuff like that ah I love it he's fantastic and Can you still do that? like if I know we talk about this at the end, but can you still have a really dumb one like that? like I mean, i don't i think so. I think you probably could, right? I mean... Yeah.

Speaker: I don't know. um but I mean, we picked three characters. I picked Michael Keaton three times, and it's only because i didn't have room for a fourth Michael Keaton. He is... Not that other people, like Richard Masseur is his job. He does a good job. yeah Eugene Levy is the concrete guy. He's freaking cracking me up. Andy McDowell's, a lot of people are doing a good job, but his performance was so incredible, and he paid played four distinct characters, and all of them I loved.

Speaker: And I just put him down for all three spots. Yeah, dude, i I have the same, and then I threw an extra out there for Andy McDowell, just because, but dude, it's, ah for me, it's number four, then number three, then number two, is the order I put them in. Yeah.

Speaker: Because three... Just, dude, I don't, he cooks and cleans and organizes and he takes care of the kids and, dude, he's so, Michael Keaton plays the part so well.

Speaker: Like, did I don't know. I don't know. I just, do I think, I feel like if you're, if you're in acting classes and you have to do a monologue, you should really consider doing the one where he comes in to talk to the receptionist at work and he's having to explain to her why he's already in the meeting, but he's now wearing a different shirt because the way he did it was totally Oscar worthy. I was frigging blown away.

Speaker: ah and he's like doing that sidestep thing where he's trying to get out of the conversation slowly getting to the door and he's like and i'm gonna come back out of the meeting when you see me again and he's pointing and he's just trying to get out of there uh dude it's a great at great acting um all right writer director stuff uh director harold ramus egon smangler ramus We've talked about him when we did Groundhog Day, but... Yeah, mean, he did freaking Caddyshack, National Lampoon's Vacation, Groundhog Day, analyzed this. ah he It seems like a lot of his movies have that. Like, Stripes and Ghostbusters and...

Speaker: I don't know how to put this. He has a... It's like there's always like a... Cloning maybe is more science, but like the magic premise that's like a self-improvement machine for the main character. And I kind of like that idea. And I know that's like a... Yeah, a lot of times there's like a philosophical element to his movies.

Speaker: yeah mean, like Ghostbusters, obviously. There's anything. lot of that's like... Didn't Dan Aykroyd... He helped write that. Yeah, he wrote that. Because Dan Aykroyd is a very weird, like, ghost surreal type of guy. But there's a lot lot there's a lot of like philosophical dilemmas confronted by the Harold Ramas comedies, which is awesome.

Speaker: yeah He's the freaking best, dude. i'm I'm going to go with um the grout Groundhog Day he did. i think he did writing, directing, and produced it.

Speaker: And one of the only other ones he did that on was Bedazzled. Yeah. I swear to God of all that is holy, if we're not doing this by 2008, That's the only reason I want to stick it out until 2000. I can't wait to talk about Bedazzled. Because a I know where both of us saw it first.

Speaker: Yeah. And B, what a freaking jam. We've got a lot of good movies coming, but that Bedazzled is one for sure. that like there's This is a movie where what you and I think of it is way different than what most people think of it. Bedazzled is going to be another one of those movies. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: To me, though, why is that? like Are they just not getting the jokes? Do they don't think they're as funny? Or Regis have a better sense of humor? Their sense is dulled?

Speaker: i don't know. i mean That's so weird. Maybe not better, maybe just different? But also, like, we probably like this a lot because we've watched it a bunch when we were young and laughed. Yeah. And now it's funnier than it would be otherwise.

Speaker: Right. So the screenplay is written originally by Chris Miller and Mary Hale based off a short story that Chris Miller wrote when he was at Harvard yeah writing for the National Lampoon.

Speaker: And then Lowell Gansom and Bob Lumendel came in and I think maybe did another draft of it or maybe rewrote stuff. Yeah. They did, they worked with, um they did Michael Keaton a bunch, Logan's and Mandel. They did um like Night Shift where.

Speaker: can turn it up. I can turn it down. I can go left and right. um And he did like Gung Ho where they have the ah the Japanese car company. Like they did a lot of the stuff with Michael Keaton before. I think great. And Lil Gans and Bob Lou Mendel, they did Night Shift. They did Splash. They did Spies Like Us. They did Parenthood, City Slickers, League of Their Own. league of the Yeah, I was going to say a League of Their Own. I thought they did.

Speaker: Yeah. City Slickers 2, Forget Paris, Multiplicity, Ed TV. like they're They've done some of my favorite movies of all time, but even the ones that are not my favorite movies, are they're always funny.

Speaker: Yeah. I bet these guys are funny in real life. They gotta be, right? I'm sure. um They're both still alive, huh? I think id be old. How old are they in their 70s?

Speaker: Gans is 77. Oh, geez. And Babalu Mandel is 76. They're both alive and they're both in New York City. Nice. Holy crap. I just clicked on Babalu Mandel's thing. Look what his spouse's name is.

Speaker: Denise Horn. Nice. Maybe we're related. That would be great.

Speaker: That would be great. We should get them on this podcast. Bonus. We should definitely get them on this podcast. We should do it quick because they're old. Bonus good. Up in the garage where the clones are living in the back of one of the scenes is a freaking cooler.

Speaker: ten ah Dude, I saw it. dude I saw it right as I saw it. I stopped it so I could write it down. I put mine under old tech, the 10K thirst quencher.

Speaker: Dude, nobody knows what that is. What happened? Was it only a... It was a Louisiana thing because it was made with real Louisiana cane sugar. They didn't get water, right?

Speaker: Yeah, how they get into a movie? in Freaking Los Angeles. Well, they had the they had the little packets. They were like super thin, like ah almost like a taco seasoning packet. But inside was like a concentrated syrup. And so you'd tear the packet open and then you'd pour water in there.

Speaker: And then that would be your drink. Like it was yeah one like one small serving. But they went... This was... I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure that it started like in the 80s with the Saints, and it was trying to like compete with like Gatorade and Powerade and all It was bottled with Kentwood Springwater.

Speaker: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I thought that's what the K always stood for. like No, it says named for the 10K race. Oh. Well, Kitwood Springwater, I knew it used that, so that's why I thought that's what the K was for.

Speaker: We saw it in another movie. I think we saw it in, like, Necessary Roughness or something. There was, like, 10K was in that. That's freaking great. i Dude, I got to be honest. I like 10K. The lemon lime there is far superior to the Gatorade lemon lime. I mean, I'm just saying.

Speaker: um I have no recollection of it, but I remember I used to like it. But, dude, as soon as I saw it, I was like, holy shit, freaking Dude, it was towards the beginning, right as they go up there. So yeah it's one of my first things in old tech alert. Nice. The other bonus good I had was I just wanted to talk about the when the when two and three are partying in the garage and like blasting freaking Montel Jordan and he wakes up in the main house. He's got Annie McDowell.

Speaker: Like her leg is like all the way over his stomach and her arm is all the way over his face. Get off me. It's hot. So I'm just saying, even if you ask me, do you want 96 model Andy McDowell draped over your body while you're trying to sleep? My answer is going to be no. yeah i don't I don't care. i touch I don't care who it is. Yeah, um I don't want fall.

Speaker: It's so hot. Don't. it's I'm sweating through the mattress and Andy McDowell's laying on me. um Now that I'm saying it out loud, I'm hesitating a little, but like still no.

Speaker: Still no on that. ah The bonus good that I had was, ah did you hear about the pool tournaments? Because it took so long for him to change out of three's clothes into two's clothes so they could talk. In between those, Harold Ramis brought in a a couple of pool tables so the crew could have a like a pool tournament to keep that going, to try to keep you know make everybody happy because was going to take so long. I read that... um I read that Tom Hanks they wanted originally to do.

Speaker: yep um Michael Keaton. I'm not saying he couldn't have done it. Gosh, he's so good with Michael Keaton. He's so... Tom Hanks can do anything, but i wouldn't I wouldn't want him in this movie instead of Michael Keaton.

Speaker: Yeah, it's so good. And also, Tom Hanks is busy in 96 doing his freaking Toy Story and Apollo 11 and bunch of other shows. Yeah, he's doing all the things. That I want him in.

Speaker: Well, then quick question before we go to the worst. um I'm not trying to say I'm a dad that does a lot of stuff and I'm getting burned out, but you can clone yourself. Would you do would you take that chance so you can have more free time?

Speaker: I don't think I do. No, because I was thinking about it. it's the It's the exact lesson from the movie. he yeah the Sure, you're you have a job and a wife and kids, and it takes up all your time and then some extra time.

Speaker: Like, even when I'm pooping, it's time when my son wants to come and talk to me about whatever. Fingers under the door. Yeah. We're going to take a thing to Disneyland. But... But like, I don't want to miss that. Even when, yeah like sometimes I'll be like, hey, i just want I'm to just, I'm going to go eat dinner and just like go to a freaking restaurant and just read my book. And Wendy's like, yeah, go ahead, just take the night.

Speaker: And I'm thrilled to go and do that. But while I'm eating dinner by myself, read my book, I'm like, kind of miss what's going on in my house. Right. It's like, I don't want a clone to do the shit. Yeah. like that I want to be doing that stuff.

Speaker: There's, uh, and you know, like the, all the people are saying like, Oh, time goes so fast. You're going blink. It's going to be gone. i don't want, I mean, my daughter's only eight, but like pretty soon she's not going to want to talk to me. And yeah, my son's going to be doing other things, not hanging out with dad anymore. So like I'm trying to soak it all. Yeah. Right back. I'm trying to soak it all in now while I don't have to do as much towel laundry. And, um, you know, like I, I don't know.

Speaker: The whole time I was like, oh, that'd be cool to be able to have free time. I could really knock out some of those hobbies. And then I realized a lot of my hobbies are just hanging out with my kids and watching them do the thing. Like being able to watch Jake watch this movie was hilarious to me because he was laughing at all the right parts. And I'm like, all right, I i did the right thing. I fixed him and he knows when to laugh and he's got the same sense of humor. And I love that. Yeah, dude.

Speaker: So I don't want to, I don't want club. What if the, what if the clone just goes to work and you can just do all the family stuff still like you do now? Dude, I'd like work. i'd line it and I don't want to say it too loud because then my wife's going to be mad, but like I like going to work.

Speaker: um The things I do, there's everybody has parts that they hate, but dude, you're going to miss that too? like i I don't know. yeah that's There's more stuff that I would like to do, but honestly, man, I got a pretty good setup and I wouldn't want to... yeah ah All the things that are in my life now, I wouldn't want to hand them over to a clone of me. I want to do that shit, even if it takes a long time.

Speaker: Yeah, same. Same. Yeah, dude, let's do a worst. Um, dude, again, I'm not saying it's too long. I got no worst effects.

Speaker: No, I can trim a little bit out of it if I needed to. Yeah. Um, that's the only thing. Uh, the, the two things I wrote is, um, Oh wait, I have three, I have three things. One, four is kind of the same joke every time, yeah but it slays me. So I kind of let that go, but I could see how a lot of people would be like, that's the same joke. He's just dumb. Um, But the other things I put was i felt like it, the sailing part and other things that just took a little, it felt like it took too long to get to the chaos.

Speaker: Yeah. And I wanted that this part to speed up. And I didn't like how Andy McDowell couldn't figure it out. Like it's obviously. Yeah. Like if I started talking to Kat in a completely different voice and I'm like, why don't she just, can you just, she would know something right then. Like, Hey, let's go freaking get a cat scan. Something's wrong with you. There's a tumor pressing on your brain and you can yeah she would be spin people's hair pieces around. She would take you to the emergency room to get a cat scan.

Speaker: Exactly. Exactly. um So i didn' I didn't like how she couldn't figure it out. I figured, i mean, I don't know how you fix that and still make it a comedy, but that was just weird to me. i felt Yeah, you have to have the suspension of discipline. If she figures it out, it's totally different movie. Right. the the It's a whole two hours and all two hours are in the waiting room of emergency room. Right. That's that's less funny.

Speaker: Um, old tech, the cell phones, cell phones. Yeah. And it's like the flip open, pull the cord. One of the guys had a bag phone, like in the car that he was talking on. There was a bag phone in the, in the upper apartment. They were using the bag phone, um, which is, I, I never thought about that, but that's how we have to do it unless he's going to run another line to the house. Can't do that. She'll find out.

Speaker: Yeah. And then those bag phones, you remember they used to freaking plug into the cigarette lighter. So I wonder how they powered it. Cause I don't know some adapter stuff. um I know you paid by the minute and he was talking a whole hell of a lot on those things to know too much to know because he was hanging up like your dad. was just like, yeah, yeah. i got it already. Bye. Click.

Speaker: My dad had one of those bag phones in the nineties and I think he had 45 minutes a month. That's way more. and Do you remember with some of the cell phone companies would do the thing where it's like if it's if it's less than one minute, it doesn't count.

Speaker: Or nights and weekends are free. Yeah. so So you wait till seven and then you could call. And then some of them had like, the then later on in like the mid to late 90s, they had to like, you could put people in your freaking MySpace friends group. And then like those people don't, they don't, you don't get charged for the minutes you talk to them. But then everybody else, you like there's, the early days of cell phones were freaking, don't know.

Speaker: Yeah, i don't know if it'd be a good podcast, but people who know, know it was wild time. Yeah, remember you had like a limit on how many text messages you can send? Yeah. Like you'd have to be very concise.

Speaker: You had to pay for each message you sent. And it was like kind of like Twitter where they each had a certain number of characters they could use. And the characters you're pressing, you're pressing numbers over and over because it was just the three letters per number. The T9 predictive texting from Nokia.

Speaker: Boo. But you could play Snake on those phones. It's totally worth it. Yeah, I'll play Snake someplace else. ah Give me the text thing I got now. Yeah. Where I forget and send you three text messages in a row and each one's just an extra word that I forgot to say.

Speaker: Yeah. I was going to say the text messages and that you have now, the one where you look at your phone, realize people texted you and then put your phone down and go on about your life. Just throw it in the ocean. So I never have to answer that.

Speaker: um Five questions. Is it okay for kids? Dude, 11 or 12, probably maybe to get all the jokes. But other than that, there's no dirty words in it. There's no. Yeah.

Speaker: There's some like sex, but it's not like graphic sex. Yeah, it's not. No. yeah they turn They turn the camera and they show the curtains blowing or something. They never show anything.

Speaker: Did Jake like it? He freaking loved it. Of course he liked it. He thought it was hilarious. um i He's getting to that point where he's going to start making references to stuff, and he's already hitting stuff like this all the time. So that's perfect. None of his friends are going to have any fucking idea what he's talking about. He already comes home. He'll get in the car. He's like, yeah, i was talking to somebody. You know, nobody knows who David Ryan Harris is. like Dude, there's people I know that don't know who David Ryan Harris is that I hang out with. Like, yeah. Like, yeah, of course, dude, he's not that popular. Well, he's on all the time. Yeah, on our algorithm, he pops up all the time. He's on all the time at our house. Right, right. Well, dude, I was thinking about it because it is it's kind of a bummer because...

Speaker: Like we have all of the media in the world at our disposal and like Wolf just goes like, i want to watch Spider-Man. It's like, all right, cool. Friggin Spider-Man. If he goes, I want to watch another thing. We don't have it, but I'll get it. Yeah. I'm like, dude, I was thinking about doing, I saw it on social media somewhere. It's like you do some like 90s style TV where it's like on Monday you play Curious George and on Tuesday you play Spider-Man. And I'm like, and then if you want to, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: I was telling my wife, and I was like, I kind of want to do that because I want him to learn. Like, you don't have everything all the time, all at once. Sometimes you just have to go like, I know you want Spider-Man, but it's Tuesday. We don't do Spider-Man until Saturday. we're just going watch Thomas the Train tonight. Yeah. Like, learn a little bit about what my life was like. You just turn on the TV and whatever was there you had. Or you would go get your VHS or freaking Home Improvements that you could watch. Watch the old ones. So Jake's been watching The Rookie.

Speaker: yeah And this last step, he finally caught up to watch an old like video on demand versions and then got to this new season. And he wants to watch it because cats watch it and they talk about it. He loves it. I don't know why. It's not for me. ah He's like, well, the next episode doesn't come out till next. It's killing me. It's killing me.

Speaker: I'm like, yeah, what happens if you're at weights when it shows up or football practice or you got something to do? Oh, you missed it. Sorry. He's like, what do you mean? I was like, he's like, ah it's recorded. I'm like, yeah, yeah. It was somebody who was at home to press record and you had the TV on three. Is that, did you have it on the right channel? Did you have enough tape on the tape?

Speaker: Like, what if you didn't record it? Do you know when you get to watch it? Never. He's like, oh my God. He's like, yeah it's so it's so much better now. I was like, yeah, it's better. I was thinking about it like pretty recently. So I'm like, you know, let's say pick a random night. Like it's fricking Tuesday and we're at a basketball game, a junior high basketball game in the nineties. But I want to get home because the second part of a very special cliffhanger, Roseanne is coming on.

Speaker: And I'm invested from last week. And if I don't see it, I'll never see it. now You'll never know. And so even though it's my basketball game, I'm like, it's like game over. i'm like all right, let's get out of here. my Dad's like, should we get pizza? I'm no, to the house oh right now. Go, go, go, go, go. Everyone get in. No car seats. Just strap in tight. Like, we got to move.

Speaker: Oh, man. that Yeah. When he when I told him, like, you miss it, you might never, never, ever see it again. Yeah. He was like, I don't understand. i was like, dude. Well, i saw an article this week that was talking about David Letterman. ah They were they the early whatever first 10 seasons of the Letterman show. They didn't keep the tapes.

Speaker: Because they were expensive. They would tape over them. and so But David Letterman happened to know that Mark Hamill was a super fan of the show. And when he was on set during Empire Strikes Back, he told his assistant, tape all the Letterman shows because I want to watch them later. yeah And then he just got into it he just was taping them all. So like when Letterman was trying to figure out when they were getting to their 500th guest write-in question, yeah the producers called Mark Hamill and were like, hey man can we borrow the tapes because we trying to figure out how many of these we've done. And like that was how they figured it out. Oh, that's crazy.

Speaker: Yeah. And like, there's a guy like that at Vanderbilt because Vanderbilt has a great TV and film news archives. And there's a guy at Vanderbilt who's just freaking, he's taping local news now because there's, they don't, so they don't save it still.

Speaker: Yeah. Like he's just on his own. Like he's not, no one gave him a grant for that. He just does it on his own time. Cause he, well, there's a lady, I can't remember her name, but she like archived so much.

Speaker: Yeah. And she's the reason that we have some of these things that we have on YouTube because somebody's going through digitizing them. That's really great, dude. Yeah, dude. That's so crazy.

Speaker: and Why are they not keeping the tapes and lettermen? I don't know, dude. Tapes are expensive. They didn't have anywhere to store them. I have no idea. What? I don't have any idea. it just Well, it was it was common. They didn't keep the tapes for live shows. They just didn't.

Speaker: um Man. All right. Would this movie get made if it were pitched now? I mean, Harold Ramis is dead, but if he was alive, he'd for sure do this. any Could you do it like, is it going to be like, ah what's the ah the Apple severance? Severance? yeah yeah like yeah How it's a separate thing. Maybe it's like that work-life balance and they try to frame it that way. i don't I don't know that you make, can you make comedies? Nobody's watching those, right?

Speaker: I think comedies are still coming around. Dude, we watched Rooster ah with Steve Carell the first season. It's freaking really good. like that show. We're still watching Hacks. Yeah, it's really good. yeah like People are still making comedies. We're watching them. But they're mostly TV comedies and not theatrical comedies.

Speaker: Perfect segue. Is it a movie or a TV show if you do this? I mean, you could make this into a TV show, I think. i Like the Paul Rudd Project tried to. Yeah, yeah. It could totally work.

Speaker: Yeah. Just freaking hijinks every week because he almost gets found out, but he doesn't. I i mean, yeah do you could do it. I like a tight, like 100-minute movie. would be perfect for me. Yeah. Hour and a half.

Speaker: um um umm I'm with it. Did you do any recasting? ah Dude, I started thinking um the only person I could think of that could do this and I would want to watch it.

Speaker: I mean, maybe you could find other people, you know, like a Bill Hader or somebody like that, or maybe even a Paul Rudd. But like, I'd like to see Ryan Gosling. I know he's in everything right now, but I'd like to see him do this. I bet he could do a really good job because that guy is goofy funny.

Speaker: And, um, if we're going to do the doctor only because of what they were talking about, I want Jeff Goldblum to be the doctor. Dr. Leeds. Who was it?

Speaker: The guy, the judge from Ghostbusters two, whatever his name is. Yeah. I was trying to think, man. I, i and when I look at the actors that are in their forties, which is Michael Keaton, when he made this movie, there's a lot of them that are really good, but there aren't, there just aren't a lot of like great comedic actors who I also think could do all the different parts.

Speaker: yeah Like I'm looking at the list. i'm like, dude, all these guys are awesome. But like, I don't think James McAvoy can do this. i don't think he's can be this funny. Yeah. Gosling, Oscar to me is oscar Isaac.

Speaker: He is funny. He's definitely funny.

Speaker: Yeah. I mean, like that's a good call. I just, there's been so many movies I've seen him in lately that I'm like, golly, Gosling's pretty good.

Speaker: He's really good, dude. hi And he makes really good stuff. Yeah, we watched him not be able to cover number 24 on Remember the Titans the other night. Jake had never seen it. Strong's that. And he was like, is that Ryan Gosling? was like, yeah, it is.

Speaker: ah He's good. He's good. yeah that that's Jason Sudeikis? He's in the right age range? Yeah, Sudeikis. don't know if he's got the like acting chops, but he's definitely funny enough. Well, Gosling was my first pick, and then under that I had Bill Hader, Jason Sudeikis, and Jason Bateman, but I think Bateman's too old.

Speaker: He's too old. Yeah, it's ah and so a lot of these people you couldn't really like carry a movie. Yeah. Kamil Nagiani could be fun.

Speaker: Yeah, he's funny.

Speaker: He's freaking jacked too. Yeah, his new stand-up is is really good. I'm going to check it out. He talks about that. He talks about like how he was the first person ever that people got mad at for getting in shape.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And about how hard it was and how now he just refuses to get back out of shape just to make everyone mad. But it's it's really good. think it's on Google. I'll check it. Can you still watch and enjoy this in 2026? It's yeah fantastic.

Speaker: Dude, Keaton's terrific. The premise, instantly funny. I feel like the burnout might be a more relatable theme now than... It was back then, maybe.

Speaker: Or maybe that's just recency bias. I think it definitely is. But my question that I thought was kind of funny that I kept thinking, and this is like, what do you charge for a clone? Because I don't think anyone's going to be able to afford that.

Speaker: No, no. was like, if you can't afford gas and food, you probably can't afford another copy of you. And then plus you got to feed them. But you make a copy of two, might not be as crisp, but you got a really good deal.

Speaker: The doctor was way into that. Gave us a good deal. Got a really good deal on that. um It's streaming Amazon Prime if you have a subscription Pluto TV for free or you can rent it on YouTube Apple TV or Google Play.

Speaker: The Pluto version was pretty clear. Nice. how I watched it at school. Alright man. Cool. Well what's next? um Next.

Speaker: Swingers. God. that The funniest the funniest voicemail ever recorded to film. It's so cringy. It's so hard to watch.

Speaker: Oh, man, I'm super excited. There was a time when I owned like four DVDs and Swingers was one of them. I owned like Swingers and Blade and like Event Horizon. and Dude, that's because you're so money and you don't even know it. It's big fucking claws, man.

Speaker: Fine. You want me to ask her? Man, where do the spirit girls hang out?

Speaker: All right. ah We'll see in two weeks. Bye, Candias. Bye, Candias. Ooh, that was fun. Thanks for listening to Movie Life Crisis. Please subscribe, rate, and review, and remember, don't drive angry.

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