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Season Seven: Rolling Stone and The Terrible, Up-to-No-Good, Horribly Bad Cat Burglar
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In this episode, we make fun of a true crime story that keeps getting told without a lot of true in the true crime part.
This is deliberately a bit of lighter fair at some of the audience members request.
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Content Warning and Introduction
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The content you're about to hear may be graphic in nature. Listener discretion is advised.
Interest in COVID-related Fraud Stories
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This is True Crime
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I have following these fraud stories, like these COVID fraud stories. Right. Those are like one kind of theft or financial crime that's interesting to me.
Discussion on "Your Friends and Neighbors" Show
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But Rolling Stone put out an article. Have you seen that There's a show on Apple TV. and i think you said you hadn't seen that. It's called Your your Friends and Neighbors. Have you heard of it?
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hadn't heard of it until you said something about it. um At some point, you should totally watch that.
Crimes Out of Boredom and TikTok
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it is It's drama. It's kind of soap opera-y. But it the theme of it is kind of like like what we do when your back's against the wall style desperation.
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and I sent you a story. When I started reading that story, it was going to be more like that. But it's so interesting to see what people will do when they're just bored.
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And that's what i that's what I think of this.
Story Sources and Introduction to Jennifer Gomez
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For people who don't know, the story that we're going to talk about today was available on TikTok. One of the sources I used for all of this is another podcast from New Six.
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ah The anchors down there, Matt Austin and Junior Gasden, they have a podcast for New Six called Florida's Fourth Estate. And then in addition to that, I think what sent you was a Rolling Stone
Jennifer Gomez's Criminal History
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article.
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It was written by Alex Morris, photographs by Agnes Lopez that are a part of that. it This goes back a way. They're basically talking about, I think it ends kind of summer 2011 in terms of getting caught.
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yeah that's when it Yeah, that's when she gets caught. ah But it i guess it would have been in the single digit 2000s, right? Yeah, that's why I was hesitating there. Because technically, by the time she's caught, there was a lot that had already transpired. That's a very young person doing,
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i consider this to be really, really terrible. The way that it's justified is kind of strange. She's got a tech talk where she talks about all of this called Jen, Jen Gomez. And I wanted to talk about this from the perspective of like, do people just not understand what they're doing? And then also like, should we judge people like this or not?
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The article that I pulled from first came out of The Independent. This was in the U.S. Crime News last summer. So I had read about her and then I had started to to read some other materials about her.
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I have to admit, i find her kind of fascinating. And the story is, in my opinion, very interesting. I have so many feelings about this ah situation.
Gomez's Confessions and Legal Implications
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i wouldn't say I'm fascinated with her.
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i feel like it's worthy of like talking about it, but like I have so many different feelings about it. Anytime someone just completely justifies like committing multiple crimes and then explains it to you and explains why they got away with it, those type of people trying to fly under the radar just make me wonder...
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What are they thinking? How do we get those folks? Well, one thing I will say is, and especially in this case, I think, in this case, I feel like the fact that she's talking about it would completely nullify the fact that she could possibly be doing it again.
Rolling Stone Article Analysis
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ah think so. Yeah, I think so too, because it would bring too much attention. Yeah, i I think this is her trying to make another stab at life. But ah the the two things that we're pulling from first is an Andrea Cavalier article from The Independent.
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It's titled, Florida Cat Burglar Who Broke Into More Than 200 Homes Reveals How She Got Away With It For So Long. ah This is from Thursday, June 26, 2025.
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And the subtitle is, Jennifer Gomez, Now 41,
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was arrested in 2011 after a lengthy investigation into a rash of home burglaries. So that's one of the things I'm going back and forth between here as we're talking. The other one is that Alex Morris article from Rolling Stone from March 19th, 2026.
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It's titled Confessions of a $7 Million dollars Cat Burglar. and it says Jennifer Gomez used her upper middle class upbringing to inform a prolific life of crime.
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And here's how she did it. I'm using both of those because... they're pretty unique perspectives on it, but i wanted to pull from the Rolling Stones article because they wrote it in narrative form. And I love that. Uh,
Clarification on Cat Burglary
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this is from the Rolling Stone reports, uh, section of Rolling Stone. If you happen to read that magazine, i'm going to start with their beginning because this will explain to you like what sucks me into all of those.
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Um, and I agree with you. I think it's worth talking about like, and I, I guess when I say fascinated, I think the word is probably more baffled and confused at how you live life like this. want to say that I have no problem with you being fascinated with it. I think it's something that could fascinate people. I'm not necessarily fascinated by it, but I have a gamut of feelings that happens whenever I...
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and This is a very personalized story. ah As we go through it, it'll come become clear why we're learning this. you know You can kind of either have it well-written or you can have it be 100% true.
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It's hard to do both. i yeah Yeah. I have some comments as far as like the confessions of a $7 million dollar cat burglar. That is would be debatable.
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if she really stole $7 million dollars worth of stuff, right? well By the time you're fencing it it's probably like 50 grand. Well, right. And like, it's, it's catchy though, as far as it's a, what it's, I don't want to say quality. i don't necessarily think it's like quality, but like, it's a well-written piece and the story's interesting. So go ahead.
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Yeah, so it starts off with this subsection of the story called The Lick. And it says, on an otherwise unremarkable day a young woman in a gray chevy impala pulled up to the front of a sprawling modern home in a sleepy florida town killing me ignition she stepped out of the car she did a quick survey of the manicured lawn she wore hospital scrubs and a pleasant unreadable expression Her long, dark hair was pulled back tightly from her heart-shaped
Doubts About Gomez's Crime Accounts
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face. She had dark eyes, long lashes, the kind of beauty that calms more than it excites, that broadcasts that all is as it should be.
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The woman rang the front bell. When no one answered, she walked to the back of the house. Finding the yard deserted, she located a low window. She pulled a glass cutter out of a brown satchel.
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She cut a hole in the glass just large enough to slip her body through it. Inside, the house was hushed and still. The light on and alarm panel flashed green. Motion sensor disarmed.
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The lines of the room were stark and sleek, moneyed but without it seemed a feminine touch. This was a disappointment to the woman who moved along the polished wood surfaces quietly, systematically.
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Electronics were useless to her. The watch market was too complicated. Cash was good, but people rarely had more than a few thousand dollars tucked away in a sock drawer or between the pages of a Bible. The biggest lick, L-I-C-K, or score, was often jewelry.
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gold pieces that the woman could melt down into untraceable bars the length and width of a credit card, the thickness of a bar of chocolate. Men rarely owned a lot of expensive jewelry that could be processed that way.
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Even then, thumbing a gold chain necklace she'd found in a large wooden box on a dresser in the master bedroom, the woman paused for the
Legal Charges and Overcharging Discussion
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slightest moment. The chain was preposterous, a Cuban-linked style as thick as the band of a watch,
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the gold so garishly yellow that the woman thought it couldn't possibly be real. And yet it seemed too heavy to be costume jewelry. She threw the necklace as well as some matching bracelets and even a matching ring into her satchel.
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Then she let herself out through the front door and drove off to the next house. At least she thinks she let herself out through the front door and she thinks she hit up with her homes that day. In truth, it's hard to remember all of these details.
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Jennifer Gomez estimates that between the years of 2007 2011, she burgled hundreds, if not thousands, of homes in a string of Florida counties from Acala to Jacksonville.
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When she was arrested on July 29, 2011, and cops tried to pin her with every burglary that matched her style, ah a small hole cut in a window, a taste primarily for expensive jewelry and cash, she couldn't begin to say which jobs were hers and which weren't.
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She
Gomez's Justifications and Intelligence
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sometimes burgled four or five homes in one afternoon, four or five days a week. The privacy fences and pools and chef's kitchens all ran together at a certain point. On the day she was sentenced, it took several hours to read through all of her charges in court, and those were only the charges she pled to, a fraction of the total amount.
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Though she wasn't going to admit it at the time, she says it's very likely that a lot of those burglaries, if not all of them, were mine. Which, by the way, that's stupid. Don't like start confessing to things to a Rolling Stone writer because know what's going to happen?
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You're going charged with a bunch shit you weren't charged with yet. I was going to say though, um they're reading her charges. And this is one of those things that it they basically closed every single burglary.
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Right. On her. Right. And you know, she couldn't possibly have done all of them. Right. And she's actually even saying that. But so this is like one of those cleanup ah perpetrators, right? Yeah.
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Yeah. You just throw, throw all the cases you've got that match or or even closer that you can put them in the the right area at the right time. You just give them all to them. And sometimes you don't even like have to do that.
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Right. And so I have a question for you. um What do you think about the whole glass cutter hole thing? Like, in as In terms of rarity?
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in terms of her actually doing that. Oh, I don't believe that. Like, there's no way. Small enough for her body to go through? That would be still like a three by three hole. Like, i mean that's huge. I think she's describing doing it once or twice, but they're taking it as like, I think i think there's a lot of fictional, historical fiction going on.
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Once you put the hole in the window, why wouldn't you just unlock it and open it Right. Because it's actually super dangerous to go through a hole in the glass. wouldn That you cut with like a little diamond cutter. Yeah, yeah because it would be just sharp glass, right?
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Right, but if you don't say it this way, it doesn't sound quite as much like a movie. Again, like I said, it
Gomez's Background and Motivations
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can either be like very interestingly written or it can be true, right the whole essay is based on having it be intriguing and want you to continue reading. That detail is very intriguing. However, my bullshit meter went off.
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Yeah. Because I just don't believe that. I don't believe she was cutting tiny holes to slide her body through to get into these houses. think it's probably BS.
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But it sounded good, right? and It sounds great. Yeah, it reads great. If you notice, and it also contradicts a little bit, because again, I'm examining this piece of writing, this story, as opposed to we don't know what actually happened, but it's a narrative to her life of crime. And in this particular case...
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She goes in, she immediately notices there's no female living there. It doesn't look like there's a ah feminine, there's no feminine touch to what she sees, right, and the in the house. And so she's disappointed because her m M.O. is jewelry that she melts down to chocolate bars, credit card chocolate bars. and But...
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she immediately, ah she found some jewelry anyway, right? Correct. Even though it was a guy's house, supposedly, she doesn't really know.
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i think, now, bear with me, I've never ah cut glass. I've definitely never slid through a hole in the glass. I've never broken into anybody's home.
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I think that is something that A cat burglar typically would remember some aspect of like every single thing that happened.
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Like some aspect of it. Look, one of the reasons we're talking about cat burglars is because actual cat burglars are so rare I don't even really know what that means. So they're professional thieves who don't have an
Target Selection and Burglary Tactics
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underlying motivation that clouds their thievery.
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So some people, like we talk about this with, with like murder, like there's only so many things that you could want to murder for. And that's how you know, like, like what motives can be like with cat burglars. The motive is it's their job and it's for money.
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And the do they call them cat burglars because of the way they go in the house? Like they don't go in a normal, like they don't go through the front door. Right. Well, cat burglaring is not even this.
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Technically. I kind of thought that too. Yeah. A cat burglar is a professional thief. who enters a building from an abnormal entry at an, at a height.
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And it reminds you of a cat moving around, right? Like jumping up because cats can get into weird places. Right. And so it's that type of thing. Right.
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Right. It's not, it's not what we're actually being presented with here. Right. Right, but it it makes the story sound good. so Right, yeah. So burglary itself, very common.
00:16:14
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Home invasions, very common. All of the things that come with like breaking and entering and stealing, very common. Cat burglars, not common.
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The ability to do it professionally and to do it unusually requires skills, not necessarily the ability to use a diamond to cut glass.
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That's what these things are. They're just like really small pieces of diamond that have been worked into a tool. Right, and I don't believe for a second that she was cutting holes. I think a hole big enough for her to get through would warrant just unlocking and opening the door the window.
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Right. and And they're also, they go out of their way to say a low window. so I'm picturing like something first floor or basement level. Right. And those aren't, they're not big windows. Correct.
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That threw me off. The beginning of the story throws me off. So so they wrap this story up, in this first part of the story up, and it says, but Gomez says she she does remember that This one lick that we just described had all this Cuban-linked gold because when she got home and inspected the chains, all of it had been stamped with 916, which is the marking, the jewel mark, for 22-karat gold.
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She said there was pounds and pounds of it, so much that she could not weigh it all at one time because her scale... only went so high. And she says she melts all this down. She stuffs her
Practicality of Gomez's Tactics
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little melted ingots into Ziploc bags, and she sells this whole lot for $60,000. And according to Gomez, telling this Rolling Stone crew, ah this is the biggest single lick or score that she has in her career as professional cat burglar, at least as far as she can remember.
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And that's where I call bullshit. You definitely remember the big ones. You may not remember all of them. Right. I was going to say, like, it could be the biggest one. i think but I think, like, if you really sat down and thought about it, there would be aspects of every single thing that you at least think you remember. It'd be weird to not remember it.
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Right. And I don't think you'll remember everything. i think you'll remember i think you'll remember unusual items. You'll remember unusual circumstances, like if
Long-term Consequences and Storytelling
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someone comes home or someone pulls a gun on you But I think you always remember, like in In this instance, there's two things about it I think you would remember. The first is how much she says she got out of it.
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But the second is the fact that, like, she didn't realize how much she had gotten would make it stand out in her mind. Right. And she said that she didn't think she was going to get anything because, like, she thought she was going to be SOL because there was no female there. Right.
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Right. And so the other thing you have to remember is she's saying that all of this stuff happens in like 2007, 2008, 2009. That's going to make her 20 years old.
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And if nothing else, someone who's breaking in the homes as a 20-year-old is not going to be the most honest person on the planet.
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Do you agree? Yes. so So we start with that. I'm going to kind of switch out of that story for a second because she just starts sort of – ah pontificating to the the rolling stones person i'm going to switch over here to the independent with andrea cavalier out of new york so andrea cavalier the article that gets published uh back in summer 2025 it starts off a former cat burglar who once terrorized upscale neighborhoods across central florida by breaking into more than 200 homes is now revealing how she stayed under the radar for years.
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Jennifer Gomez is now 41. I think she just turned 42, by the way, but I'm saying that from the perspective of it's 2026. If you go back to 2006 and say that's when she's getting her start, she's 20 years old.
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So she was arrested by Marion County deputies in 2011 after a lengthy investigation into a rash of home burglaries that Jennifer Gomez says netted her about $7 million. dollars Court records show she was convicted of multiple charges, including nine counts of burglary, grand theft, and dealing in stolen property.
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Authorities said Gomez targeted homes for high-value items, often pawning off stolen jewelry for quick cash, She served nearly a decade behind bars and was released in February 2020. That's according to the FDLE of this article.
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Since her release, Gomez has gained attention for her candid social media presence on YouTube and TikTok under the name Jinjin Gomez, where she details her life behind bars and her criminal past. That is where my second problem comes in. I do not think we glorify glorify people who do this.
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I feel like that I'm a hypocrite if I say that, but we're covering her. No, I'm not glorifying her. going to make a lot of fun of her in a minute because I think she's a liar. Because we're about to get into what I think she's lying about.
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I'm just saying that like, I feel like I know like if there's not an audience that this dies somewhere. like I said, i think it's worth covering, right? yeah Again, yeah, you're right. We're not glorifying her.
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um i have a lot of, I don't have any positive emotions towards this situation at all. i I could feel a little bit sorry for the situation, but for the most part, I think a lot of it's just stupid and it kind of makes me mad. yeah but in In her dreams, she stole around a million bucks. In her dreams.
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This stuff about $7 million dollars is just flat out lying. Well, that's the other thing. ah Yeah, the $7 million, dollars I'm not, I don't have the direct, I haven't heard her speak directly. I know she's.
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given interviews and stuff, but I do realize that there's a, there's some nuances to how things are said and stuff being worth $7 million, dollars her getting $7 million. dollars And like, those are two different things, right? Uh, she did not get $7 million dollars and I doubt very seriously. She, ah she stole $7 million dollars worth of stuff but this was just people investigators who were working the burglary cases that she ended up charged and p pleading to like they had values according to the insurance companies etc etc right yeah and all that stuff gets inflated so i i can say with a lot of certainty i don't think you can launder seven million dollars
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in gold ingots without other flags being raised. Because it wasn't that that raised the flags, right? Correct.
00:23:22
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And so anyway, I... Well, also, but having listened to her talk, I just don't think she's smart enough. Well, I mean, I don't think anybody that is stealing people's whatnots and melting them into bars is a smart person anyway. anyway I feel like that's actually something anybody could do, right? Right. um But it the $7 million dollars gives it intrigue.
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I don't even know. little bit, yeah.
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I know she says she didn't get that much. I'm pretty sure. ah Because that's why I started analyzing what was being said. Anyway, the $7 million dollars is the value. and Yes. The way that we get there, it's like there's several different paths. But I maintain that she never had $7 million. dollars And it's...
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it's undocumented that $7 million dollars was actually stolen. However, people's valuables were stolen and she was responsible for some of those thefts.
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The independent article goes on to say that she recently opened up about her experiences on the podcast Florida's Fourth Estate, first saying that people need to stop making assumptions.
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These are quotes from her on this podcast. She says, these people would look at me in these neighborhoods, communicate with me, look me straight in the eyes and never suspect anything because of the way that I look. Okay. I got to tell you, being real honest, I can look at you now and I can tell you're heavily made up and you're definitely up to something already. I know that's just trying to be an influencer or whatever you're trying to be now, but like I can tell, and I definitely would have known that 20 year old you was up to something.
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So most of the population knows what you're doing. You just happen to get lucky with a few people. So isn't that an interesting thing that she says there? Cause she's saying, don't make assumptions that people are good people. That's what I got out of what she's saying based on the rest of what she said. And while she's I get the theme there. I feel like she's coming from the minority position as far as people thinking
00:25:32
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that Honestly, the people fleecing you the most are some of the best looking people. But I like she, if she's a murderer, then like what we put her in the Ted Bundy category, but a girl, I mean like, yeah i maybe back then, but not now.
00:25:48
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oh I didn't think she, yeah. But even when she like her pictures, she's always look kind of the same. She's the most recent pictures I've seen of her. She's heavily made up. She's at an age that, you know, uh,
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not saying specifically, but I may be familiar with it. Um, where like all of a sudden you're old and you're like, what? And you know, she was in bar behind bars. Um, I don't necessarily, I just feel like her, her,
00:26:18
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She's got to talk about something, right? No. She's got to come up with these. She doesn't. Okay. If she's going to talk. Right. Yes. Right. If she's going to talk, she's got to talk about something. I find it odd what she pulls out, but it's fine. This is her prerogative. Okay. If she wants to get on and she wants to talk about it, that's fine. I do find it odd though, that she's telling people, don't assume that the person you see is all that they look like they are.
00:26:44
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Right. Well, so I don't think that's the right way. she She follows up the never suspected me because of the way that i look. She follows it up with saying, everybody here to hurt you or cause you harm doesn't look the way your mind thinks they look.
00:26:58
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None of that sentence makes any sense. so She's saying that she should that she looked too normal and too, i don't know, average. Yeah, she was completely average. For anybody to believe she was up to no good. The irony of that is she got caught. Yeah.
00:27:17
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Right. I don't know. I do realize she's got some very interesting um a little in between stories that happened where people, you know, weren't seeing anything bad in her.
00:27:32
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but that wasn't them. that It wasn't that they shouldn't have made assumptions. She was a good person. She should have been a good person. Yeah. yeahre Right, exactly. like she She should have just not been a little douchebag.
00:27:45
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She goes on to say there's no stereotype. And she says, I had a really good upbringing, actually. Everyone in my family is very well-to-do, put together, walking the straight and narrow. My mom's a neurologist. My dad's a psychiatrist. I went to private schools. I've had a really good, nice life. And we was afforded a lot of good opportunities. And I kind of just pissed it all away.
00:28:06
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Well, I would agree the last sentence there, but like, I'm sorry, if your mom is a neurologist, that means she didn't spend any time with you. And if your dad is a psychiatrist, he also probably didn't spend much time with you. And that's why you went to private school so that you would be out of their hair.
00:28:25
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Well, right. But she also is, I felt like she's speaking about a good upbringing strictly from a financial point of view. Right. She's basically saying, I never had to work for anything, and look how I turned out.
00:28:40
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Well, right. And I don't think that that is the the statement that she thinks it is. Right. was ah So with the fourth estate people, they go on to kind of ask, like, how did she pull it all off?
00:28:56
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And she keeps talking on there about it. She says that she carefully selected which homes to burglarize. She focused on affluent, but not ultra wealthy properties. So she's just stating the obvious mansions with extensive surveillance surveillance systems were too risky.
00:29:12
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stating the obvious. And she goes on to explain, rich people always want to advertise their security. ADT stickers, surveillance signs, picket signs in the front yard. They want you to know. But for me, that was a good thing because what you're telling me is you have things to protect. And now I know there's an alarm system, so I'm going to work around it.
00:29:30
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Okay. Well, that's not the smartest move in the world because... If you're doing this in 2026, I just want to let everyone know all of those systems now have fail-safe backups.
00:29:44
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So when you get around them, they alert anyways. Well, plus she was in this period of time where like right before a door ah doorbell cameras started. Yep. Okay. And so I do remember like there weren't doorbell cameras back then. Some people had security systems. Some people had surveillance systems, but they weren't great. And they definitely weren't like real time, like monitoring type systems like we have now. And so she really kind of hit, you know, a time period where everyone
00:30:16
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as technology was advancing, we weren't quite there, but see today people would be watching her like as she was going in the house. Right. And so the other thing is like, how did she get away with it? Well, once again, she did not get away with it.
00:30:31
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She went to jail. Right. Right. Right. and no I'm not sure why. I was confused by that question in particular. I guess maybe like because she did it for an extended period of time. That's what they were saying.
00:30:48
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Like, how did you get away with it? Well, you didn't. You went to jail. However, that's in there. So there's that. So she does say that growing up in that family gave her insight into how upper class homeowners secure their properties and what weaknesses to exploit. So I guess when she was home on the weekends from private school, um she was able to – because I think one of the sources said boarding school and one of them said private school. I guess private school could be like right there and you're going to whatever the best of – florida has to offer um as opposed to being sent away to boarding school which is where a lot of kids from affluent families go but she says that she preferred homes and cul-de-sacs or ones that backed up to quiet roads they allowed her to get away quickly dense landscaping and privacy fences would offer her additional cover and i think this is a podcast quote but
00:31:43
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I couldn't tell how they put all this together. She says, i would always try to find a home that was in a cul-de-sac so I wouldn't get lost in there and or a home that backed up to a street.
00:31:54
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Not like a main street, but maybe just like a two-way street that was right outside the neighborhood because sometimes I would have to jump the fence if I had to get out of there quickly. She says a rainy day was the perfect time to strike, explaining because people weren't typically outside.
00:32:10
Speaker
Okay, I don't know how that's a perfect time to strike because if they're not outside, that means they're inside. You're going to go into their house while they're indoors? No, I think she means witnesses. know, I know. Your neighbor, like the neighbor to the house she's going You are 100% correct. But what does she mean about getting lost?
00:32:30
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I mean, it's like, I'm so confused by that. Like she can't figure out where, like if she yeah look like she comes out of one side of the house and if it's not in a cul-de-sac, she doesn't know where she's at.
00:32:42
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She's having trouble because the answer to this question that she's like babbling on about is actually, I got really lucky until I got caught. That's the answer. And she doesn't know how to say that. It doesn't sound interesting when you just say that one sentence.
00:32:57
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and I don't know what she means about getting lost. I think like maybe in the world of GPS, she decides that she doesn't want to carry a phone with her. That would be a smart move. So I doubt she's doing that. Probably got a phone in her pocket. It's very, that's a very interesting comment. Yeah, it is. She says in Florida, there's a lot of rain, a lot of humidity. So that's very common. The days when people are not outside, she said, there's no one gardening. They're not mowing their grass. There's not landscapers. There's not anyone jogging in the neighborhood and there's no mom pushing her baby.
00:33:30
Speaker
Those are all very stereotypical witnesses and law and order, aren't they? Um, Gomez says she needed a disguise as part of the ruse to get herself inside the door. so she dressed in medical scrubs and posed as a worker from a dog med spa.
00:33:49
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A dog med spa. Okay, fair enough. So if no one answers the door, she would knock on windows and call out names to make it seem like she was concerned for someone inside. If still undetected, she'd use a glass cutting tool to quietly enter usually through a master bedroom window.
00:34:09
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And then she goes on to say, your dog's not going to scare me. If I know there's a dog, I always brought some kind of food. I would bring steak. I would bring chicken. i'd have a sandwich in the car. If there's a dog that looks scary, I'm giving it food and I promise he's fine.
00:34:24
Speaker
Okay. Now she's just making shit up. I have a dog that, uh, would not Actually, he doesn't even look scary, but he would not be fine. He cannot be bought off with food. and i always have that in the i would have that in the back of my mind, right?
00:34:45
Speaker
Yeah, I have one in my house. So that's the other thing is I don't have dog, which you don't either. You have a pack of dogs. Yeah, but I only have one that would be that way. The others would definitely take the food.
00:34:58
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I have one that would take the food, but that's the problem. then You didn't bring enough food to satisfy the one that will take the food. Oh, I see. Yeah. So the other two are the ones to worry about.
00:35:12
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Right. Exactly. And see, I have one dog who like, he cannot be bought off by treats. He just, he does not care if you're not supposed to be in here. There's absolutely nothing that you're going to be able to do to get him off of you. Because, um, so, I mean, I'm just saying that I don't necessarily think that that's true. I think she probably avoided, uh, houses with dogs, but whatever.
00:35:36
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Yeah. I mean, like, if yeah, if it were real, that's what she would be saying is that she stayed away from houses with dogs. If it were real, she's just caught herself. Like she's realized that her whole story, her entire life story can be told in 15 minutes.
00:35:51
Speaker
So now she has to like make up things. Well, yeah, exact that's exactly what I was saying earlier when she's got to highlight points to have. If she's going to talk about it, she's got to have things to talk about, right?
00:36:05
Speaker
Right. I think this is the best example of what you're saying that I'm switching back to. I'm serious. like I think this is the – I look at it and i'm like, what are they doing? ah Switching back over to Rolling Stone for a minute, they have this subsection in there called The House.
00:36:20
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And I guess they're just riding along together with her – And she says, I would definitely have broken into that house right there. And she points to a large nondescript structure set back from the road behind curtains of Spanish moss.
00:36:33
Speaker
On a recent Tuesday, Gomez is driving me in her Toyota Land Cruiser down a quiet sun-dabbled street. So I'm so glad that, like, you know, prison set her back. Now she's still Land Cruiser.
00:36:46
Speaker
I'm sorry. Well, she she probably is the trust fund child would be my guess. Okay, but that's even more proof that like this is bullshit um to me. Hey, I've never said it wasn't.
00:37:00
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Driving her Toyota Land Cruiser down a quiet, sun-dabbled street where expansive yards roll like red carpets up to multi-million dollar riverfront homes. Water shimmers silver in the distance. Boats lazily bob.
00:37:14
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Besides the lush vegetation and the occasional passing car, there are no other signs of life. The people at Admiral's Inlet, so that's where they're driving around, people. If you live there, look out for this girl.
00:37:26
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They pay handsomely for their privacy. This just looks like it has a lot of money, Gomez comments as she continues down the street, waving her pale pink nails and pointing out other properties she would have found in Dicing.
00:37:38
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I want you to get a feel for how easy it is, she says, of burglarizing. Now at 42, Gomez still wears her long dark hair pulled back tightly from her heart-shaped face and she still has the kind of doe-eyed beauty that broadcasts that all is as it should be.
00:37:55
Speaker
She wears curve-hugging athleisure in soothing shades of beige and has the well-scrubbed glow of someone committed to their skincare regimen. Her southern accent is slightly clipped and officious, the type of draw that's a stamp of a suburban upbringing.
00:38:11
Speaker
Petite and animated, she's a natural storyteller with a gift for highlighting the absurdity of situations, including most especially her own. Gomez has not burgled in 15 years. She's done her time. Her criminal period is now past the statute of limitations.
00:38:27
Speaker
By the way, author of The Rolling Stone, you didn't read carefully enough. You're wrong. She has forgotten the mindset she once had, the ways her brain worked or failed to work that led to her criminality.
00:38:41
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I had a lot of years to think about it in prison, she says now of her 10-year sentence. I would play all these scenarios, play my life out over and over because I wanted to find... where I went wrong.
00:38:52
Speaker
I don't know. Maybe stealing shit. Hers were not crimes of passion, not really. They were not crimes of opportunity. They appear too calculated for that. They were crimes that stemmed from the opportunities she'd been granted.
00:39:07
Speaker
Deserate people will do desperate things, but someone who isn't desperate and breaks the law, psychologically, they are looking for something else. Maybe it's power. Maybe it's excitement. Maybe it's a need to hustle to prove something to set themselves apart.
00:39:21
Speaker
I was conditioned to grow up to be successful, the best of the best in your respective area. It was a search for some kind of validation, a place in the world where it's like, I'm here. I'm good at this. I'm good here. I'm powerful there.
00:39:33
Speaker
And in a certain sense, her life of crime is paid. In a certain sense... And in a most-of-the-moment way, the traits and experiences that got her into trouble are the ones that got her out of it. But that's the end of the story.
00:39:44
Speaker
Gomez wants to start at the beginning. Okay, well, I'm not going back through all of the beginning of her story, and here's why. It's not even interesting. She's not a cat burglar. She's just a drug addict that figured out interesting ways to get into people's homes.
00:40:02
Speaker
Well, right. And, I mean... I don't really know like which way to go with this. um She cannot possibly burglarize anything the way she used to because she will immediately get caught now.
00:40:16
Speaker
Correct. Just like, you know, I said earlier, all those homes that have all that stuff, they all have... ah they absolutely have doorbell cameras, right? Right. That's kind of the point of doorbell cameras. You literally, it's almost impossible to go into just about any house now without being seen. Right.
00:40:40
Speaker
mike And so i immediately thought of that when I was reading that. Now she tells some ah accounts of things that occur, happened to her, like,
00:40:54
Speaker
And when she, i can't remember exactly what happened, but she like walked in and there was like a couple there and like the, they were an older couple and the man ended up walking her out to her car with an umbrella in the rain, like it was so nice. And I was like, and she told it like, ha ha, those people were so stupid. Right. That's the gist of her statement. And I was like, well, that's not really the case. It was that you're an awful person. Right.
00:41:24
Speaker
Right. if They're not stupid. They were trying to like, like they thought they were doing a good thing for you because you needed it because you were clearly in terrible shape. Well, right. And it, it becomes this, this,
00:41:37
Speaker
ah the whole account of it, it's very interesting what her perspective is because she's coming at it from that way. And in essence, I guess, you've got somebody who ah lived her life of crime ah She ended up with an attorney who was paid, Right. right to get her a deal. And most of the time when people are burglaring for money, which she didn't have to, but you know, people who burglar for money, they don't have money to get an attorney to get a deal. Right.
00:42:22
Speaker
Right. And you can actually get in a lot of trouble, especially for the amount of burglaries that she supposedly has committed. Right. ah she's at least pled guilty to.
00:42:34
Speaker
And most of the time you don't have the opportunity. You wouldn't have the opportunity to be out in your land cruiser with the Rolling Stones author telling these stories, right? That's not reality. You can go in and watch her tick tock. If you, if you want to just like have something fun to do and she trashes her attorney saying that they lied to her for years.
00:42:57
Speaker
Oh, really? I've not gone. ah All I know about her, i I have not seen her social media. So, like, that's the reason I'm kind of trashing her. Well, she, so she was addicted. I thought it was interesting. She stated she was addicted to Roxy Cotton.
00:43:15
Speaker
yeah Is that what it was? Roxy's? Which is what? It's like, it's one of the Oxy Cotton or Hydro-Cotone and something else. It's an opiate. Yeah, it's an opiate. Yeah. in the nineties and going into the two thousands, you know, people were being, I'm not saying this is the case with her, but people were being legitimately prescribed pain medicine. Right.
00:43:36
Speaker
And it was the, um, the Oxycontin, the hydrocodone, that stuff. And you didn't have any control over getting addicted to it. It literally programmed your brain. That's what the, the pharmaceutical company scientists, that's what they were trying to do. They were reprogramming,
00:43:56
Speaker
reprogramming brain receptors to get rid of pain, but it also, the side effect was you became addicted to it, right? Right. And that's something that's interesting to me because I try not to look down, I don't look down on people who get addicted to something ah because they literally can't control it it And there's nothing they can do except decide to get clean. Well, she never did. And she got ah really hooked on these things.
00:44:28
Speaker
roxies or whatever and i thought that was interesting because i was like oh she even takes this elitist type of uh narcotic right yeah it's a fancy narcotic and i'm not i look i'm not bashing i get people are in all kinds of addiction all over the world for all types of substances right now i'm not unempathetic or unsympathetic to that I am unsympathetic to presenting yourself in a false light after having been caught thinking for some reason the best thing that you can do is confess to these other crimes on Rolling Stone.
00:45:04
Speaker
I feel like, um so do you think she's confessing to crimes that weren't part of her? I thought she was just recapping what she pled to. Yeah. So they, like both of these, both of these people have misread how Florida statutes work. So technically first degree burglary, first degree felonies, like there is a statute of limitation. It varies.
00:45:27
Speaker
The difference is if you're habitual or you're a serial. And a serial means you just commit them in a row for financial gain. Or if you commit any type of fraud, which is and the conversion of some of the items is fraud.
00:45:42
Speaker
That has no statute of limitations. The habitual status has no statute of limitations. like so these... Authors have basically gotten her to talk about some of these crimes on the podcast stuff and the different articles that she's talked about that she's not been convicted of. Now, they don't get specific enough, but she does at times basically say, yeah, I probably did all those other things that they were going to accuse me of too, but whatever. Too bad, so sad.
00:46:11
Speaker
See, I guess that's where i don't, I'm not entirely sure. Cause she doesn't give like a, they said it took hours to read all of her charges. That's about the extent of what we got. Right. Right.
00:46:23
Speaker
And so we don't, i don't know what all she was charged with, but you know what? You're probably right. She probably is one of the people that would talk about things that she wasn't charged with yet. But here's the thing. I think she's still doing it.
00:46:36
Speaker
and I should get caught. I think she will. i Yeah, she definitely will. But I mean, like, you're going to see it on, like, your ring camera. I think that would be one of, if she went it and she went to jail in, like, 2012 or something like that, I think. Yeah, she goes in in 2011. She gets out in 2020.
00:46:56
Speaker
Like, so she gets she goes to jail and then she goes to prison. She gets out of prison in 2020. Okay, and so like the world changed during that time period, Correct, yes. Like big time, technology-wise. And I actually was thinking just to myself, not necessarily going to like put it out there, but I was thinking to myself, like the only reason she didn't go back burglaring was because of the technology changes, right?
00:47:22
Speaker
i felt But I think she was in jail during the time that the technology changes were happening. I know she was, but when she got out, she was like, oh, I can't do that anymore. And that's why she's now on like social media.
00:47:36
Speaker
i don't know that she knows. She's got this long story. she you You saw the whole Russian story, right? yeah her but Yeah, I saw that.
00:47:46
Speaker
So she's got this Russian boyfriend that she says it's a toxic relationship, all of these things That was when she was younger. Right, right, when she was much younger. And that that was leading her to like the addiction and then the addiction kind of spilled over and the burglary became like the way that she funded the addiction.
00:48:11
Speaker
I think that I don't think her life has changed.
00:48:16
Speaker
Like, I think she's still doing, I think she's still doing, trying to do like, so her old hustle was probably about like her Tik TOK hustle.
00:48:29
Speaker
Remember how we were kind of making fun of the fact that it couldn't be $7 million dollars or whatever? I don't know how much money it was. It could be a lot. But my point is, like shes she doesn't have that money. She just has that in drug form.
00:48:41
Speaker
Well, right. And there's nothing left from what she did. like All of it was just a a kind of guesstimate based on what we've heard. I didn't go look at the ah court records or anything. And a lot of times, you can't really follow plea deals anyway.
00:48:56
Speaker
in court records. It's, I mean, like you can see that a plea happened, but you don't really know. But I know that like a lot of cases got um shut and i don't ever, I'd never like it when that happens because I feel i even, i don't really care that much about burglary cases or whatever, but I still feel like it's kind of, but it would be really relevant what you were actually being charged with. And she kind of skipped over that part really,
00:49:26
Speaker
like, you know, oh, they might have all been mine. Like, it's kind of a weird way to, if in my opinion, it's a weird way to start the whole story. Right.
00:49:37
Speaker
Right. So that's where, you know, she, it's kind of like they read them all and, you know, they probably were all mine, but I'm not really sure. And so I was like, huh, you know, that's a strange thing. And so we don't know everything that's happening. And,
00:49:53
Speaker
it There's these, I don't know what the authors are trying to convey necessarily, like saying we're in her Land Cruiser, she's driving us around. You know, that to me, it didn't make me feel like I wanted to be her friend.
00:50:09
Speaker
Right. Like, it made me feel like, oh wow. And, you know, i don't know what it takes, like what kind of just...
00:50:23
Speaker
inherent personality someone has that decides that they're going to make their life of crime as a quote cat burglar end quote their shtick right when they get out of jail i'm not sure i'm not sure what kind of person that is and the fact that um
00:50:44
Speaker
so anybody could have done what she did anybody could be a burglar right Anybody could steal stuff that doesn't belong to them. Again, they say, well, you know she got away with it. And I guess she did for a little bit, but ultimately she got caught, which again, anybody can do.
00:51:04
Speaker
yeah anybody. Well, so she has one of your favorite elements of a person that just keeps doing the same thing over and over again. What is your favorite thing about serial killers?
00:51:18
Speaker
Oh, I don't know, but I don't know. none of them had a None of them know how to do this one important thing for escaping.
00:51:28
Speaker
important thing for escaping. I don't know. She can't drive. driving. She keeps getting pulled over for careless driving, for no proof of insurance. She gets pulled over for unlawful speed um on the highway, 20 to 29 miles per hour over.
00:51:44
Speaker
And then she starts getting hit. and like these are i think this is what you're asking about. She starts getting hit with grand theft. And the charges in Florida are kind of weird. But basically, anywhere between $300 $19,999, they call those less than $20,000.
00:52:03
Speaker
But it's a grand theft. She gets dealing in stolen property, giving false verification of ownership to a pawnbroker, and then burglary of a dwelling. Those are the charges that she gets over again.
00:52:14
Speaker
Sorry, i'm I'm coming to a point here. It's the giving the false verification of ownership to the pawnbroker that's probably going to end up doing her in, I think. Was that that early?
00:52:26
Speaker
ah Was that... See, I was confused about that, too. It's not a completely... i don't find ah everything to be completely explained what when they're trying to vet the situation. and I wasn't sure if the the false identification to a pawnbroker had to do with her boyfriend ah She was like fencing stolen goods for him or something. And she was like, but I, but see, she said I used my real identification. So that probably isn't it.
00:52:56
Speaker
No. She got in some trouble for that. She's using a real identification and then signing an affidavit that she owns what she's selling. So it's just false information. Right. She's lying, but it's fraud. Yeah.
00:53:10
Speaker
if you and So part of her thing was she d ends up in sort of a very loose business acquaintanceship with somebody who has the machines that you need to melt down gold And I'm pretty sure that it's her association with him just so on the fringes. Because basically, the way the story is told, she gets what she gets, she goes in, she uses the meltdown machine, and then she just kind of leaves you know him with a little something. And that's that, right? Right.
00:53:49
Speaker
But the fact that she's coming and going from that establishment is how she ends up in trouble to begin with. Right. And just so that's one of the things that go on. Have you seen her talk about her kid, by the way?
00:54:05
Speaker
I haven't seen her talk. I have not watched anything. ah I've not seen her. All I've done is read about her. i haven't seen her talk or anything like that. In the articles I sent you, there's at least one where she is talking about like how it's all victimless crimes and the real victim is her for losing her kid. Have you seen that?
00:54:26
Speaker
I have seen that. Yes. And she also talks about how like suddenly it everything mattered. Like all the stuff that never matters before matters suddenly, because she found out she was pregnant, like after she'd been caught.
00:54:39
Speaker
Right. Yeah. So she, yes, I did see that. I think, so i never want to trash parents, but like,
00:54:52
Speaker
You're on a lot of drugs. And so I guess we have to explain that's a different time in the world. 2026 is very different from 2007 to particularly in Florida.
00:55:07
Speaker
And i don't I don't know if we've ever had to get into this on a case on the podcast, but there was a pill mill crisis going on. And so that pill mill crisis, you know what I mean when I say that, right? Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:21
Speaker
So these places would pop up that looked like a doctor's office or a pain clinic a pain clinic or a sports medicine medicine clinic. And they would basically be strictly there taking cash money for appointments to write prescriptions for heavy duty narcotics, particularly for opiates.
00:55:46
Speaker
We don't have that as much 2026. Yeah. Well, no, because the regulations have caught on. But, yeah, it would be strictly like you would just go and say, I'm in so much pain, and they would give you your prescription, and you would be paying them cash, right? Doctors were participating in this because apparently they didn't realize it was wrong yet.
00:56:06
Speaker
It killed so many people. It really did, yeah. And it's where, like, I think it's where the whole dope sick thing comes from. A lot of people were – it was essentially – ah People who are addicted to opiate painkillers were lining up at a doctor's office to get their prescription.
00:56:29
Speaker
Yeah, they really were. and they And they weren't normal prescriptions. I had someone in my life that would – like they had a period of time after a car accident where they were deeply addicted.
00:56:41
Speaker
And they would get prescriptions for between 90 and 150 heavy-duty either Percocet or oxycodones at a time.
00:56:52
Speaker
Right. and the reality was those drugs were gone within a week. Right. It's a thousand wonders that person survived, honestly. Because when someone ODs on that, it's literally because they took so many that their body shut down.
00:57:10
Speaker
yeah Yeah. i um And actually, i don't think we've talked about this on here. Florida was a particular problem. And that, the so the Florida, weirdly, the pandemic reset what was left of the pill mills in Florida.
00:57:25
Speaker
um But ah one of my former spouses died because of an addiction in Florida, like right as the pandemic started.
00:57:38
Speaker
And It was like one of the weirdest experiences to me to find out that it had happened because like there was this period of time I knew back it's It's not during this girl's like when she's doing all of this. It's later.
00:57:55
Speaker
um I knew that the whole reason to go to Florida for certain people was to live down there. And it wasn't for the sunshine. It wasn't for some type of work. It was to be close to an area because Florida survived the rest of the U.S. sort of regulating. It survived all the way up to the dope sick lawsuit lawsuits, which you kind of were mentioning. um i I think that's what you meant when you were saying the dope. Yeah, that's what, because ah it was, yeah, it was the whole thing with OxyContin.
00:58:27
Speaker
cotton right Yeah, the the Purdue ah Pharma settlement. Essentially, there was a $6 billion dollars settlement, but it it ends up being overturned um because it would have shielded the, I guess it's the Sackler family at Purdue. Is that right? Sacklers?
00:58:47
Speaker
I think so. I think that's their name. and And so they sort of expanded that. but it So that lawsuit would have begun while this Jennifer Gomez is in jail.
00:59:01
Speaker
But what she's going through, that would have been a legitimate thing that like like kept rolling. The thing about it is like she had all the people around her, doctors in the family, affluent family. They could have helped her.
00:59:19
Speaker
go to any rehab she wanted to go to. So i she i don't, I don't necessarily think that the only reason she was burglaring was to get money for drugs.
00:59:31
Speaker
Did you get that impression? No, I just think that was the driving force that gets her into learning how to burgle. I, um, I thought, ah what do you think her actual motive was?
00:59:46
Speaker
I think she's bored. Do you think that's what it was? can see it I just didn't. Well, I think she thought she was doing something because she could, she takes a lot of pride in what she does. I will agree with that. a hundred percent. At least, at least the way the author has, the authors have written their um respective pieces. Right.
01:00:10
Speaker
And to me, It's, it says a lot, uh, that she takes pride. There's nothing about what she did that she should be proud of. Right. Nothing.
01:00:22
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Not even a little bit. it's odd to me, of course I'm me, but I would be so ashamed of actions like that.
01:00:38
Speaker
and Like I'm, I would be so, i feel ashamed for her. And I don't know her. Right. Yeah. But I would feel so much shame. Like I would never talk about it much less like put it out there in social media. And I don't know.
01:00:52
Speaker
i don't know what she's doing on social media necessarily, except I hope she's saying like, don't do this. It's really stupid. Right. That's what I hope she's saying. i don't know that for sure. It doesn't get that far. It really just sticks to here's what happened.
01:01:08
Speaker
Okay, and so i guess with, you know, the true crime entertainment world, this her story qualifies just like any other true crime situation, right?
01:01:23
Speaker
But it's sort of like, um she has all the details of a story that could be anybody's story who had made similar decisions. Yeah. I keep pulling myself back because I'm like, are we being too harsh on this girl?
01:01:40
Speaker
Well, I don't know. And I'm, I'm actually, so I have a lot of thoughts on it because I'm not sure like, why is she doing this? And then like, she has a following and I'm like, well, okay.
01:01:52
Speaker
But it's, i I just, I have trouble with somebody wanting everybody to know all this, but what she was doing was not cool. She was not like this super duper burglarer.
01:02:09
Speaker
she was taking stuff from people for basically how I saw it was no reason or to buy drugs. Right. That's what I kind of got out of the situation was she was basically doing it because she could.
01:02:24
Speaker
And the fact that she's saying like, Oh, people shouldn't trust what they see. That's not true. You should be what you convey. Right.
01:02:34
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Most people aren't trying to get one over on anybody. Right. I don't think like just me and my normal life. I don't take the fact that I look innocent. I don't use it against people, but I also don't take it for granted. i don't think she looks innocent. I think every picture I've seen of her in her entire life, she looks like she's up to something.
01:02:55
Speaker
And our social media that's gone by because there's been a couple of pushes on our social media. So I end up with it like in my suggested for you. Like I'm not following it, but it shows up because like somebody somewhere is paying for clicks on this stuff.
01:03:10
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And so it's like suggested for me, I guess, because of all the true crime stuff I follow. It's not great content outside of the story. The story is interesting. I still don't follow her.
01:03:23
Speaker
But the story is interesting. But I do not think... One, i don't think she has a good handle on what she did. Who she hurt and how it harmed her. I don't think anybody has a good handle on it because of the ambiguity at the beginning.
01:03:40
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I'm not sure that she... She knows, i mean, does she really, like, do they really all blend together that much? How many houses was she possibly hitting? And like, how far was she going? It's a strange thing. And then everybody, all the cases got closed on her, Yeah.
01:04:00
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yeah It was like 210 cases that got closed total. in And it resulted in like 50 charges. Yeah. Right. And so she got 10 years, right? is that right? Yeah. And that was, so when I say 210 cases got closed, it was about 208, 210 houses
01:04:23
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and he got blamed for and And she couldn't say definitively, or she didn't say definitively one way or the other. She said a lot of them possibly could be her. It was very, like, a weird statement, right? Yeah, but, like, why talk about it at all?
01:04:42
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Well, that's what I'm saying as far as, like, her being on social media. I read the articles, right? Like, people wrote articles about her. I'm not sure that we want... this person as an influencer of any type.
01:04:56
Speaker
No, that, and exactly. That's, that's where I was headed with this, that part right there. You said it in the right, I didn't put it together in the right order, but the way you said it is like, so first of all, she's not interesting.
01:05:10
Speaker
So she's right in that regard. Like she is not like her face is forgettable. Like interactions with her are likely forgettable. Like nothing about her is interesting in the slightest. And like she she does talk a lot about like how much she's made on TikTok and YouTube and whatever. But I look at her and go, I'm sorry, you're boring.
01:05:31
Speaker
And so I'm not sure why she would like, what is it that people are like, let me follow the convicted release cat burglar. That's the only part of the story that's interesting. And those are the ones that have the millions of views is where she's telling these, honestly,
01:05:52
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lies about this time of her life. And then like, she'll throw in a granule of truth. So you feel sorry for her with the Sarkozy Russian guy. like I look at that stuff and i'm kind of like, well, maybe, maybe that's what is making her interesting. you can see the parallels because like from at least, I guess I would assume Rolling Stones at least vetted the fact that she was in jail for that amount of time. Right. Yeah.
01:06:22
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I presume that. um And if I'm wrong, then that's on me. But I presume they vetted that. And so she did go to jail for something, right? Correct. And... right and the narrative of her story, it's that she always had some ruse she was ready to pull out of her back pocket in the event she was caught, right?
01:06:43
Speaker
Right. Like, she's knocking on the door to check on you know, her mom's friend or her friend's mom or whatever. And, you know, she's there to pick up Rufus for the doggy med spa or whatever. She always had, like, a like she was running on a...
01:06:59
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like she on a contingency, basically that she was probably going to get caught. That's how she operated. And so in some ways she was putting on an acting routine, right? Or she was ready to put on an acting routine, which I imagine is what she would be doing on social media. Yeah. Now, like she's just talking it up.
01:07:24
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There's absolutely nothing about, The bad decisions she made that make me go, let me go see how what she's doing on social media. And I find it odd. I did read, so she once her cellmate or like her friend got out of jail. Right.
01:07:45
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ah her Her mom, so Jennifer's mom, paid for her cellmate to live at a hotel for like six months or I don't know, something like that. Because the the cellmate had helped her substantially in jail, right? Right, yeah.
01:08:02
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And so now I believe the two of them are roommates. and They were for a period of time, yeah. Okay. Well, and, but the point was like, they're covering this like human interest piece, the, uh, the magazine editors, I guess. I, I'm not sure what the other source was, but Rolling Stone is a magazine. And so they're covering this person and it's based on the fact that she has a social media presence. Right.
01:08:32
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Yeah. And it's to, you know, it's it's publicity, it's PR, And I guess the interesting part to me was like, okay, she tells them in the article, she makes enough money off of social media. That's like her job. Yeah.
01:08:53
Speaker
And I'm like, wait, what? i and I don't know. i don't know what to think about that. Cause I'm like, well, what, but what is she doing? And then I'm like, well, I could check it out. But honestly,
01:09:08
Speaker
i I just don't know. I've looked at some of it. You're not missing a thing. But how is she successful? And then the other thing is how much is really just trust fund money, right?
01:09:19
Speaker
it's I think it's trust fund money buying advertising in bots. I think that's where we're at. Like, I think she's running her own number. I think she's committing fraud in a different way.
01:09:30
Speaker
Like, I think you what once a hustler, always a hustler, I believe that her social media presence likely has a little bit of BS in it. Okay, so is this the same thing where, like, that the older man walked her out to the car in the rain And she's like, he's a stupid person.
01:09:51
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Is it the same thing that like, she's the social media presence and like all these people are if you happen to follow her, you're like one of the stupid, you're the stupid old man.
01:10:06
Speaker
Probably the her. Well, that's what I was wondering. i think people following her, they're probably following her out of curiosity. i think I think so. I think that the story is interesting, right? It's just the story is interesting. You did your time and you got out, but like you are full of terrible decisions.
01:10:25
Speaker
Right. and like they keep talking ah They keep talking about like those decisions have not yet led to an end to her story, and like she's moved into this little house on a cul-de-sac, and she's raising a kid and all of these things. But here's the thing. If you want to know more about her,
01:10:42
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The best place you can look is myflorida.com. They have a like a corrections offender network where you can look her up. um If you're curious whether or not she stole something from your house and you live in Florida, a good possibility that the answer is yes. But they have listed all of her dates of offenses there, like off to the left-hand side. Every burglary that she's convicted of. 2007, eight, nine, 10, 11, they're there.
01:11:09
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ah The offense dates are on the left. ah The sentencing date is on the right-hand side. And if you look really closely, you'll notice that her probation will continue until um she got out ah of of prison on on Valentine's Day 2020. So she gets out and then the pandemic happens like less than a month later.
01:11:33
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ah But she will be on probation until February 9th of 2040.
01:11:41
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And if she commits any sort of anything in between there, she'll go back, right? Yeah, it'll be a probation violation of this particular set of sentences. um She has a very, very long, looming ah sentence there. Because if I remember correctly, it's like,
01:12:01
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six years per offense for 40 offenses or something like that. And she's like skating by on the skin of her teeth being out as it is. If she were to be caught like fraudulently doing something on the internet and get a federal like, you know, fraud, wire fraud, something like that.
01:12:20
Speaker
I think she has to go back and do a considerable amount of that sentence. Right, and i don't know I don't wish that on anyone. I just, I guess, I find, i almost feel like the world is gaslighting me when she's like, I had a really good upbringing. And I'm like, it's not possible that you had a really good upbringing.
01:12:41
Speaker
You ended up in jail, right? And so I just get confused when I'm like, i think it's just a skewed perspective on her part. Well, I mean, she's clearly – like, she may make fun of the guy with the umbrella walking her to her car, but that guy's judgment's a lot more sound than hers.
01:13:01
Speaker
His decision-making skills are a lot better than hers. His critical thinking skills are a lot better than hers. Well, right. And I think a lot of people would be surprised to know – The, like, everybody probably didn't trust in her innocence.
01:13:19
Speaker
There were actually people who, like, for example, I'll just give this as an example. ah There was, ah i knew ah a well-off, I know a lot of well-off people. I'm not well-off, but...
01:13:32
Speaker
I've been in their houses and people would steal stuff like people who came to clean or whatever. Right. So that's not cat burglary, but like, it's still like somebody was in the house. They were allowed to be in the house and they took things and it was noticed.
01:13:52
Speaker
Right. But they didn't call the police. Right. They didn't make a big deal out of it. And so I don't know how much of it, like people just didn't say anything versus they, you know, genuinely believe for whatever reason that she was innocent. Not to mention, it sounds like her prerogative was not to encounter people. And so to that extent, it didn't matter anyway, right? Like she wasn't running into anybody. It didn't matter how innocent she looked.
01:14:24
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Right, right, right. If you see her on social media, we're hoping that you'll just join us in boycotting her. Only read stuff that's in print about her. Don't watch her TikToks. Don't watch her YouTube.
01:14:36
Speaker
Like, make it so that she has to go get a real job at McDonald's or something. That's what we're hoping you'll do. Do you have any thoughts on it? I mean, i don't really care one way or the other. um I find it interesting. I, again, i i don't, I wouldn't support her beat. Like, I don't want to go look because I don't want to support that.
01:14:55
Speaker
But at the same time, I can't figure out, like, what the heck is going on. So it's very interesting. I found this story to be interesting. I found the look into her mind to be very interesting. I also found it to be like what I consider to be wrong. right Like she's wrong about most of the stuff she said, but it is interesting to get that side of it because she's not a violent criminal, but nonetheless, she has a record demonstrating, you know, this string of crimes that she committed.
01:15:29
Speaker
she, I find that fascinating. I'm always interested to know what somebody has to say. you know, maybe I'm looking at this wrong. Maybe the truth is, like, we should support people like this in influencing positions, if nothing else, to keep them from doing this same stuff over and over again. Well, that was the other thing I was going to say. Like, I don't necessarily – I don't – i I really don't have a problem with her um supporting herself in any legal way that does not infringe on anybody else.
01:16:02
Speaker
I just don't understand how that's like possible with social media influencing, but it ah clearly it is like, I don't feel like it should be possible. I don't necessarily have a problem with it. Maybe she's just a very charming person.
01:16:18
Speaker
it That seems like that wouldn't be the case just based on like looking at her. i mean, she she's nice looking, but it does she doesn't necessarily read like super you know charming and interesting to watch. But I could be wrong. I don't know. It's just a very interesting situation. I find that um you know for now, social media has lots of opportunities for people.
01:16:45
Speaker
And I'm okay. I mean, I'm okay. and I wouldn't say boycott it. I just am not sure of what the purpose would be, you know?
01:16:54
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watch her, you mean? I just don't What would the purpose to watch her? Yeah. Like, why would we? It never even occurred. I saw that she was on social media. She made comments. That's how she's supporting herself or whatever she said.
01:17:08
Speaker
And once you know the story, what else is there? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. That's it. That's all there is. like That's why I didn't even go into the backstory. i think i didn't i did not 100% believe the story with the boyfriend, the previous relationship, the gangster stories. I felt like some aspects of them might be true, but I didn't bring them up here because...
01:17:29
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Like if people want to have an extra thing to dive into, fine, go do that. Rolling Stone's got it. Independence got it. She's got, she's covered on social media. She's covered on Florida's fourth estate. I didn't, i I personally didn't want to go that path because like I was already highlighting some things that I feel like are false.
01:17:49
Speaker
Well, right. Because I didn't want to go further. the Any criminal story is going to have to be polished to have to attract attention. Right. Yeah. I mean, I think I doubt she makes it almost seem glamorous, which I feel like might be a problem. I am very sure that the reality of the situation wasn't glamorous at all. Right.
01:18:12
Speaker
Yeah. ah And it's an interesting dynamic and her kind of, jettisoning herself into some spotlight. I wouldn't say that it's like, I mean, Rolling Stones does a lot of articles about a lot of different people. Right.
01:18:31
Speaker
Yes. And I just find it really interesting that she's willing to put that out there because it, I have a hard time imagining wanting to well having done it to begin with but then like wanting to talk about it and put myself out there as the quote cat burglar who stole seven million dollars end quote or whatever right that just seems like the worst thing that you could label yourself with i 100 agree with that
01:19:05
Speaker
i don It's very confusing. I don't have anything more on her. I just wanted to to talk about it. I find it fascinating when people end up in the spotlight for weird reasons and stay there. um This girl appears to have captured about two years' ah time in the spotlight between the different podcasts and articles about her. Here we are still talking about her in 2026, so maybe maybe I'm doing it wrong. But I yeah i do find the fact that people are following her and she's making a living on social media baffling or fascinating or confusing or something. um And, you know, she's sprinkled some BS in there. Like you would almost think somebody in this position would go like like the memoir route. But I guess maybe TikTok's the new memoir
01:19:49
Speaker
Yeah, i I do think that ah we are outdated as far as that goes. I don't even see like a memo. I see this as like going, you should go a completely different direction and never talk about it again.
01:20:05
Speaker
and maybe she tried that and it didn't work. Or maybe I just don't. ah she It doesn't seem like she's that much younger than me. Yeah. And maybe because she had some time away from society, she adapted better than somebody who was just out. But to me, I'm like, I just, I don't know. and is burglary like, you know, is it criminal chic?
01:20:31
Speaker
She thinks it's a victimless crime. She doesn't understand that like people's homeowners insurance suffered for this. People like bought and paid for this stuff. And it's Florida, so they may not even have had homeowners insurance.
01:20:43
Speaker
Well, right, but also she does come to the realization that, like, it wasn't necessarily victimless. It's just it's it wasn't violent, right? She didn't hurt anybody physically. Nobody died.
01:20:56
Speaker
But, you know, when you actually own a house... and have a life in a house and then somebody infringes a pint upon your privacy, i feel like she was kind of at a point in life where like she'd had hit everything handed to her She hadn't really worked.
01:21:14
Speaker
and like she just, you know, there were no, she didn't give a care, right, about any of it. And that's where she sort of was. It's not necessarily a victim. of I would feel terrible going into people's houses and rifling through their stuff.
01:21:31
Speaker
That would make me feel terrible. I feel like it would make most people feel terrible. they That's why we don't do it. Yeah. And if you think about it happening to you, of course you wouldn't do it.
01:21:43
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I'm glad we covered her and I never have to think about her again until she gets a parole violation. Would we cover her again and she got a parole violation?
01:21:55
Speaker
Maybe. Okay. okay See, I think that this is part of the secret sauce, man.
Well Wishes and Excitement for Netflix Show
01:22:01
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You got anything else on her? No. feel like ah I wish her the best, and I hope she stays out of ah criminal trouble. Definitely.
01:22:11
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Well, can't wait to see the Netflix show.
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