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Episode 85 - Ranking Every Adventure Game Ever Yet Again Even More
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Roses and Matt reflect on things they may or may not be experts on, then chit chat about a game and a new show they've been enjoying.
While ranking every adventure game ever, Roses witnesses Matt, in real time, fall in love with two horrendous looking games.
Games Mentioned:
- If On A Winters Night, Four Travelers
- Gilbert Goodmate and the Mushroom of Fungoria
- My Brother Rabbit
- Portrait of a Torn
- Victor: A Steampunk Adventure
- Samudra
- Greyhat: A Digital Detective Adventure
- Dark Earth
- Dark Fall: Ghost Vigil
- Transylvania
- Jazz and Faust
- The Uncertainty: Last Quiet Day
- The Lure of the Temptress
- Last Half of Darkness: Tomb of Zojir
- Born Punk
- Muscarine AKA Erica's Trip
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Transcript
Humor and Expertise Discussion
00:00:00
Speaker
I had a very interesting conversation with somebody the other day. was it with It was not with you. our conversations are less than interesting. um so I was having a conversation and I have a quiet i have a couple of questions to ask you. And I'm just very curious about what your answers would be. So the first question is, we know each other very well. Would you say that I am an expert in any particular field?
00:00:27
Speaker
And then the second question is, Do you feel that way about yourself? Are you an expert in any particular field? So I'll start or have expertise. So let's start with the first question. Do you think I'm an expert in any particular field?
00:00:43
Speaker
How to answer this without stroking or crushing your ego? Oh my God, don't crush my ego. Well, so, but that's, there's no way to answer that without either stroking nor crushing
Defining Art Expertise
00:00:55
Speaker
a person's ego. Okay.
00:00:56
Speaker
to Yeah, I think you're an expert in a couple fields. Okay.
00:01:02
Speaker
I have say them? That would be helpful, yeah. Okay. Well, I mean, I think the obvious two are... Well, I think a certain era of culture. So not just Murder, She Wrote, but like that era. No, just Murder, She Wrote. That era of...
00:01:26
Speaker
weird TV and movies and, um, you know, especially mystery fiction. Sure. That's number one. Number two, adventure games.
00:01:37
Speaker
Okay. So you wouldn't say art. Would you say art? Are you an expert in art? Mm-hmm. This is where the, I think the convo got really interesting. I think no, because while you are skilled in art and you are, um,
00:01:58
Speaker
while you're skilled in art and you have yeah you have knowledge of types of artistic techniques and um and uh the create the usage of those techniques like like ah like like bringing creativity to light right like like maybe like in making art right you are ah if i'm if somebody's saying are If somebody is called an expert in art, I'm expecting them to have um art history knowledge.
00:02:34
Speaker
Ah, okay. And, um
Teaching Fluid Art
00:02:38
Speaker
you know... ah I'm expecting them to have some sort of scholarship in art, right? Which it's not that I don't – I mean, I think you probably know art very well, but I don't know. you're using art as – that's really interesting. So if I were more specific, there could have been somewhere – yes.
00:02:56
Speaker
So – when we In this discussion, when we were talking about art, they were particularly saying, like, in my field, so am I an expert in fluid art? Would I be able to teach that in a two-hour course? Yes, I would.
00:03:10
Speaker
Absolutely, with no curriculum. I would be able to do something in fluid art. But here's the thing. I said no to everything that they were saying I was an expert in because my understanding of the word expert is like synonyms with mastery.
00:03:24
Speaker
And now I'm realizing that that's not maybe really the case. Am I incorrect? Or that expertise is more of a deep understanding of that field that you're in. Yeah. I think what you just said is the right thing. Like being able to teach it yeah without...
00:03:42
Speaker
Either what with drawing your own syllabus up or without a syllabus. I think that would make a person an expert. Being able to, if somebody, if you were on a The idea of somebody being able to call you as the... And when they needed... all right, say there's a fluid artist that's in the news.
00:04:07
Speaker
And... a radio producer is doing a story on the fluid artist and they talk to somebody who knows a lot about that artist, but then they need some context on what is fluid art? How does, what's the process? How does it work?
00:04:23
Speaker
If they are, if they are able to call you to be their interview, I think that makes you an expert. Okay.
Acknowledging Personal Expertise
00:04:32
Speaker
Okay. I think what it really came down to was I've learned something about myself in this in in these conversations is that I just don't want to give myself any credit. I'm too afraid to say I know a lot about adventure games. i might even It might be expertise of mine, which I think you're right. I think we we practice our expertise in adventure games every week or all the time.
X-Men Lore and 'X-Perch' Humor
00:04:56
Speaker
So what do you think you are an expert in any field? Okay. What?
00:05:01
Speaker
X-Men. Oh my God. The X-Perch. That's got to be used somewhere. It's been used a thousand times. Oh man. Okay. Yeah. I think that, but there's, but then I have big gaps in my knowledge there. So I don't know. I don't know. but it But it's like I said, it's like a deep understanding, right? And so if you have a deep understanding, I would say you are an expert at the X-Men.
00:05:26
Speaker
um Yeah, maybe. do Okay, do you do I – I guess you have to answer the same question. Do I have expertise – what are my expertises in I do think you are an expert in adventure game knowledge. i actually do genuinely think that um about you. I think I was going to say comics, but now that we've talked about genre, I think maybe specifically X-Men makes more sense. and i And I mean that not just because you said it, because I regard you as somebody who knows way more about that shit than I do.
00:06:00
Speaker
you know and honestly And honestly, social stuff. You're you're very good with like social awareness. You're like up there. I like i admire you. like You're up there for me.
Desires for New Expertise
00:06:10
Speaker
Wow. Thank you. You're welcome.
00:06:16
Speaker
I would like to be an expert in more. i mean maybe one thing What's one thing you would like to be an expert in?
00:06:28
Speaker
Huh. a World folklore. Oh, that's cool. That's a good answer. World folklore is one. Literature is one. World religions is another where another one. ah um Mythology is another. like there's And I know mythology is broad, so I'm going to keep it broad because world mythology, like anything anything cultural.
Gaming Updates and Humor
00:06:54
Speaker
um Yeah, I mean, those ah those all those things hold hands, obviously, mythologies and yeah. What do you want to be an expert in? I don't know. Like, butt stuff.
00:07:04
Speaker
There we go.
00:07:26
Speaker
Hey everyone, I'm Pushing Up Roses. Welcome back to Save Your Game. With me, as always, expert in all things X-Men, Matt Aucamp. Hey, hey everybody. um i i got adamantium claws implanted in me.
00:07:44
Speaker
Nice! You know, I like body mods, so I approve of that. And I've killed 17 people so far. Are they bad people? I don't know.
00:07:54
Speaker
Oh no.
00:08:03
Speaker
ah Pretty good. Pretty good. um what what's What's up with me? What's new with me? i had i
Adventure Game Review
00:08:10
Speaker
had a doctor's appointment today. yes! Hell yes! They drew some blood. Give it up. yeah um I had some sushi. That's always a fun time.
00:08:26
Speaker
what No, what? No praise for eating. so Okay, fine. Whatever. About that one. Not as excited about that one. Okay, fine. um any Anything else? How about, how about, how about, have you been enjoying anything lately?
00:08:41
Speaker
Yes. Several things. Okay. um i don't I don't know how much... there any pauses that make me wonder if you're going to finish the thought? I know. I love doing that.
00:08:55
Speaker
i love One of favorite things to do with you when we're recording is if you ask me how I am and I just say fine and don't answer anymore, it cracks me up. ah But yes, I have i have been enjoying...
00:09:08
Speaker
Several things. I don't know how much want to talk about this because I might, because we might eventually maybe sometime cover it, but I played an adventure game this week. I think you should talk about it as much as you, I think you should fully cover it here. Fully cover it? All right, let me get my script started. We won't deep dive, but I think, you know. What adventure game?
00:09:35
Speaker
I played... I forget this name. 500 times. Okay. If on a winter's night for travelers, it is a free game. It is free. Did you know that? one It is free. I didn't know that. I have it in my steam library. ah I didn't remember that I got it for free though.
00:09:54
Speaker
i don't ah and you know I don't know if it was always free, but is free. Yeah, it is free. And I think for a man for a free game, that's badass. This is a gorgeous game. It is stunningly beautiful. So it is... um I know that we ah we choose a lot of games that we say this is beautiful pixel art, right? I think we just... Ooh, I hit my mic. We just played a game that we said was beautiful pixel art, and that was The Dark Rites of Arkham.
00:10:23
Speaker
There is something about these isometric games with contained settings, right? Right. um So the isometric where you're in like a bedroom or you're in a parlor, there is something so cozy and so beautiful that...
00:10:39
Speaker
about this look that even though this game isn't the most fast paced, it is a narrative driven game. And it is a, what I would call a horror game, to be honest, it's dark at the very least. It's certainly not, you know, funny or anything like that. it It's like reading horror short story.
00:10:57
Speaker
a horror short story But there is something so wildly differently, wildly different about isometric pixel art with those contained rooms. If you look at the screenshots, I don't think they even do it justice, honestly.
00:11:13
Speaker
i think the animations
Horror Game Analysis
00:11:14
Speaker
are fucking gorgeous. Yeah, they're they're so detailed without being detailed. I also think we need to come up with a broader vocabulary for pixel art because the you like we just played... um ah Dark Rites of Arkham. And what postmodern games does is this sort of soft pixel art.
00:11:36
Speaker
And it's chunkier. It's chunky. It's a little chunkier. And it's it's very, it's it's got it's got lighting effects. So there's like a glow to it. And then this is like a spikier, sharper pixel art. It's sharper. It looks like it looks higher resolution. I don't think it is. i think that's maybe an illusion. you see but you see all the edges and you see... um and And the lighting effects are built into the... um Into the pixel.
00:12:06
Speaker
Into the pixels rather than... Man, it's pretty. Laying on top of the... of the work And so i think we I think we definitely need to come up with a – and then you compare this to something like um The Last Door.
00:12:21
Speaker
Right. And they just don't – these are all types of pixel art that all look so, so different. This is more like ah the artwork in The Drifter. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Except this is – But isometric. Yeah, isometric, which I think really does give it – I really do think it gives it a different viewpoint. sure um I no longer feel like very part of the game. It just feels like I'm being told this story. okay Even though it is it is it's not just narrative. It is a point and click game. You do have to solve puzzles in this game. It's also an anthology. And I love anthologies. Like my favorite Stephen King stuff, anthologies. I like a lot of short stories in one go. And they can be related. They don't have to be related. I love that. So this game is about... um there Four travelers on a winter night. How did how did you know? i yeah i've I've started to become psychic. I should have told you that.
00:13:23
Speaker
That's awesome. Yeah, again. i accept this. I'm Wolverine and I'm Professor X, so I'm just gaining more and more powers. ah Yeah, i it is about four travelers. It's a little misleading because you're only playing like three stories. But yes, it is technically about four travelers that are on this train that is traveling very late at night during a storm. Everybody is wearing a masquerade mask and the characters...
00:13:49
Speaker
don't quite know why they're there or how they got there or or where this train is going all they remember is the things that they last before getting to this train and i won't i won't spoil that further uh because this is a short game i would say this is an hour and a half to two hour game um and the the first segment is one story and it's very very short uh But yeah, it's, ah it takes place in the 1920s. So it's, it's got that, it's got that kind of Laura Bowe, Colonel's Bequest vibe going on in terms of the setting.
00:14:26
Speaker
And yeah, the, man. It's got such a dark vibe to it. Like, it's not funny at all. I'm trying to, I'm trying to, it's very, it's very last door. I didn't find the last door having any funny parts. Whereas Dark Rites of Arkham, Nightmare Frames, English Haunting, that did have a sense of humor.
00:14:45
Speaker
the These characters had a sense of humor about them. They were cracking jokes. This is just simply meant to be three very dark tales. Yeah. ah Which is interesting because the ending is kind of kind of winking at the audience a little bit. It's not meta, but it it it kind of goes in this very weird, cutesy direction.
00:15:07
Speaker
ah Should I say some spoilers or should I? i think i think save the spoilers. Okay, okay. um But i that's I mean, it sounds it sounds great.
00:15:19
Speaker
It sounds like...
00:15:23
Speaker
So there's um the second tale i I'll just highlight. The second tale, it's called The Vanishing of Mrs. Winterborn. And it's got some very heavy um kind of ghostly elements to it, almost ah the ghost house and sanitarium, if you remember how that was told. Yeah.
00:15:42
Speaker
it's ah it's It's really dark. like it's It's really dark and emotionally charged. And I i appreciated that. That's why the the ending was a little weird to me because it got a little bit like novel at the end. When you find out like what happened and why they're on this train. and um The third act has some of the best...
00:16:03
Speaker
like transitioning screens i've ever seen there's a scene where somebody is in a room and they drop through the floor and ater and it and it turns into a different scene completely um and i looked up a ah video on it to see what other like a let's play to see what people were commenting on it and they said that scene gave them goosebumps it's like this is this is good this is like artistic this is a piece of art um I do wish it were longer, but what what what can I say? It's a free game. I'm not going sit here and demand length out of it. I think the only reason I i want it to be longer is because it is an anthology. So maybe I just want more stories. Maybe that would appease me. Yeah. But highly recommend playing it. um Do you remember the other game we played? Let's see. What was it called? Paradise Falls.
00:16:54
Speaker
And you you felt that something was kind of missing from that, remember? Yes, definitely. Because like the story got kind of muddy and it's like, we don't really quite understand. This is different. This is trying... This hits that creepiness level while being pretty clear about
TV Show Discussion
00:17:11
Speaker
the story. even stuff you even so Even if there's like some supernatural stuff, even if you're like, I don't know what that is, it's fine. It fits with the story. It's it's not...
00:17:20
Speaker
ridiculous or anything like that but yeah i'm so shocked this is from 2021 by dead idle games and i can't believe i've not seen it i'm really shocked because this is so beautiful and like right up my alley yeah i mean it it it it it it looks great it looks very the art looks great and i've heard nothing but good things about it do you know that the developer uh are ah working on a new ah new game.
00:17:51
Speaker
I do. i did see that. Yeah. The Many Sins of Ocampo. Yes, I did see that. Which has nothing to do with me.
00:18:03
Speaker
Are you sure? but it sounds like you're related. and i and I guess i can't I can't tell you if that's true, right? Maybe I'll play the game and it's all about... It's just interesting because that's what I call you outside of this is Ocampo. Yeah, I am seeing that. And it's got that similar...
00:18:25
Speaker
It looks like it's larger in scale, but it looks like there's some more isometric. Oh, it looks so good. What are they even doing? Oh, I want this game already. ah Well, that's awesome. I'm glad you played a game that you really enjoyed. i i I intend to play it.
00:18:46
Speaker
This has been on my list forever, and you know maybe you playing it will in ah you know in si yeah inspire me to play it. It's very interesting how unpretentious it is when it could have been.
00:19:00
Speaker
right We've played now, especially maybe maybe more so me, but we've played a lot of horror games just on this podcast and for Halloween. and We've played a lot of games in this kind of spooky vein, especially since we've played the Lovecraftian games. Those are always going to have something. yeah and It is a little hard not to get kind of cornball or a little pretentious.
00:19:24
Speaker
um But this stayed pretty pretty great. That's awesome. I can't wait to see this this upcoming game. I'm so About how long about how long was...
00:19:35
Speaker
I would say like two hours. Two hours? Okay. Yeah, that's great. yeah That's awesome. it's It is point and click, but it's not the most challenging game you're ever going to play. It is cool more meant to be beautiful and you know dark and telling a story. That's awesome.
00:19:51
Speaker
Yeah. Yay. Yay. I did it. Now i don't have to play anymore, right? did it. You want a video game. You want to keep of your video game podcast, but not play any video games.
00:20:04
Speaker
Yeah, I'll just tell you what I've been enjoying for the rest of my life.
00:20:11
Speaker
There are never going to be games, though. um did Real quick, did you see, or maybe I'm making this up because the internet is tricking me all the time now.
Nintendo Speculation and Banter
00:20:21
Speaker
Is there going to be a remake of Ocarina of Time? This has been rumored for a while. I don't know. i don't think there's one that's been announced. Let's look it up.
00:20:35
Speaker
Nintendo has officially announced a full remake of The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, slated to launch in 2026 for the new Nintendo Switch 2. Oh, yeah. I don't have a Nintendo Switch 2, and I don't intend to buy one. So I guess- What are going to do This one will just pass me by. No, that can't be.
00:20:56
Speaker
of my favorite games ever. I can't just, like, not. Oh. I mean, if you want to buy yourself a Nintendo Switch 2, and then I will sneak over with three state lines.
00:21:12
Speaker
And play the whole game? In Illinois. Sneak into your house. Steal your Switch 2. Wait, why can't you just play it at my place? Why do you have to steal my Switch? Take it home. Play the whole game.
00:21:28
Speaker
And then sneak it back into your house. Huh. What's wrong with that? I'm really glad I have this on the podcast, so in case this does happen... I invisibility powers now.
00:21:39
Speaker
Huh. Interesting. I didn't know that, like, having the adamantium implants could also give you invisibility powers. What? They're not related.
00:21:50
Speaker
Weird. What kind of mutant are you? i've just... Every day I'm discovering new powers. Yeah. Are you sure you're not just dying? i think this is what happens the month that you turn 40. In the 27 days before you turn 40, every day you discover a new power.
00:22:07
Speaker
What if you're actually just vanishing? What if you're not turning an invisible? Okay, okay. I could turn it on and off. Wow. I swear. can turn it off whenever you swear I just don't want to.
Adventure Game Rankings
00:22:22
Speaker
Also, I just installed Perfect Tide Stays into Station, and I have every, every intention of playing that game, because I know in my little heart that I'm going to like it. This is on recording.
00:22:35
Speaker
This is on recording. People are going to hear it. They heard it. i i edited it out. You're like, hey! I have that power. um What have you been playing or enjoying or both?
00:22:48
Speaker
ah You know, i I've been playing pretty much the same stuff that I was playing last week. That's Mina the Hollower and... ah Call the Elder Gods. I haven't made enough progress in either one to have more stuff to talk about. They're just they're they're both good games. mean, the Hollower is fucking excellent, and of the Elder Gods is really good. It's you know it's just more of... it's you know I said everything that I needed to say about it last episode, um but I have been... i watched a whole season of a show up until...
00:23:28
Speaker
I think the eight episodes have been released so far isn um this week. It's called ah Widow's Bay. Have you heard of this? I have not. It's kind of, i think you'd like it because it's kind of, it's it's a supernatural thriller ah slash ah comedy.
00:23:47
Speaker
Kind of like a workplace comedy. Or a small town comedy like a Parks and Rec or or um Schitt's Creek. Yeah, oh I love Schitt's Creek.
00:23:58
Speaker
But it's created by and it's created by Katie Dippold, who wrote for Parks and Rec. Oh, cool. um Yeah, and she's she's's just a very funny writer. She's also very funny on the internet. Yeah. um But, ah it and it stars Matthew Rhys.
00:24:23
Speaker
Yeah, I see that. And Steven Root. And then some people I don't know. Like, I didn't know Kate O'Flynn before this. Right. But she's super funny in it. Yeah.
00:24:36
Speaker
It takes place somewhere in New England and just like off the off the New England coast. There's a little island that has just been plagued by all sorts of supernatural ah horror mystery shit for its entire history. My God, you know what it's giving?
00:24:56
Speaker
No. Murder, she wrote. ah That's also like i don't know vi any a small New England town. Everything's weird. Maybe. i I mean, it's very supernatural. though yeah this is Yeah, I can see that's like way more.
00:25:11
Speaker
So I think... or so this this The series follows a mayor... Who is in denial about all of the supernatural shit in the town. And he is trying to make this a new tourist destination. Okay.
00:25:27
Speaker
And so the first episode is like a fog is rolling in. Mm-hmm. And the Stephen Root character is like, you know, there's an old legend in this town when the fog rolls in, you know, it drives people crazy and their eyes go white and then they lose all bodily function and then they they start attacking people. like Like, as if it's a it's a it's a Stephen King sort of deal, right Sure, sure. And...
00:25:55
Speaker
ah At the same time, a reporter is coming to the island, a reporter from the New York Times, who's doing a feature on the island as a new tourist destination. And so the mayor is trying desperately to deny that this fog is doing anything to people while the fog is rolling in and doing things to people.
00:26:15
Speaker
And people are like disappearing and stuff. And there's all sorts of things like they're there. At one point, there was cannibalism on the island. At one point, there was a a serial killer on the island. um One of the episodes deals with a sea hag. So it's.
00:26:33
Speaker
Very. It's just very it's very funny while at the same time really nailing the tone of like a Stephen King horror show or horror movie um or like like a or supernatural thriller more than yeah horror. yeah There's scary parts, but it's more just like spooky the whole time. Yeah.
00:26:55
Speaker
it's It's also giving like almost like Portlandia where the mayor is kind of like oblivious to stuff. Except that's more, obviously that's the full on comedy. There's no supernatural, but I want to see how the mayor is like played. Matthew Reese does so well in this role. He, he crushes it. And I'm i'm not sure what I had seen him in. i knew I, I know I had seen him in beautiful day in the neighborhood. The, as Lloyd Vogel, um,
00:27:24
Speaker
the movie based around a reporter interviewing Mr. Rogers. And he was great in that. I don't know if I've seen him really in anything else, but in this, yeah, he, he crushes it. Um, and it's just, it's so well written. It's incredibly well directed. the director's hero Mirai who directed,
00:27:48
Speaker
ah Atlanta, most of the episodes of Atlanta, which was, if you've seen Atlanta, that should make you excited this.
00:28:03
Speaker
Well, what strikes me is that he also worked on Childish Gambino's music videos, which are always really good and like really well shot and directed. so i think that's really interesting.
00:28:15
Speaker
Yeah, and he brings his whole skill set to this show. um It's on episode eight. I think it's a 10 issue 10 issue, 10 episode. i think it's supposed to, it looks like it's slated to be just a mini series, but who knows? it does really well, maybe. And, you know, it's getting really, really good reviews. So maybe it goes for a second season, but even if it doesn't, it's, it's really great. It's called Widow's Bay. Yeah, I'm excited. It's on Apple TV, but also, ah
00:28:51
Speaker
there are ways to get it without Apple TV Matt please it's also got really great guest stars it's got ah Toby Huss plays the Reverend who's already the strongest man world Chris Fleming plays like a drug dealer Connor Ratliff plays the deputy of the town just in one episode it's it's yeah I highly recommend it the list is long that's funny Very, very good. Nice. So that's what I've been enjoying. Nice. Now they got two things they can go look up. They can play the game I suggested and watch the show you suggested and everyone will be happy. And everyone is happy.
00:29:34
Speaker
Get off our backs.
Humorous Game Ranking Continuation
00:29:37
Speaker
So, Roses, what are we doing here today? Oh. We're ranking. What?
00:29:48
Speaker
brain far very good very good yes thank you thank you i i was like wait what what game are we talking about today wait we're not um it's been a little while since we have done a ranking episode right sure that's true at least time-wise how many episodes back was it oh i don't know Gotta be back in episode 206 or something. About 11 episodes ago. Oh, okay. Not that long ago. but ah But that was like last October or something. yeah So we're doing a ranking episode, everybody.
00:30:29
Speaker
Roses, do you want to play some random ass royalty-free old-timey music and then come on back? Yes, do. Do you play some adventure games?
00:30:56
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Save Your Game. I'm still Matt. This is still Roses. We are still going to rank some adventure games. Is that we is that what you want from us?
00:31:08
Speaker
i' make you happy does that Will that make you happy? happy?
00:31:14
Speaker
We'll dance for you if that's what it takes. No, no if no we're not no we won't. So... What we do here is this is this is a segment that was shamelessly ripped off of this Empty Bowl podcast, a serial podcast with Justin Goubert.
00:31:33
Speaker
No. Dan Goubert and Justin McElroy. um But we're doing it with all adventure games. I have a list here of 3,500 adventure games. Good god and we, they're all assigned numbers. We randomly, using a random number generator, pick a number.
00:31:55
Speaker
And we give that a give whatever adventure game comes up a definitive ranking. Mm-hmm. We are allowed to skip one per per section.
00:32:10
Speaker
but we I have them all pre-grouped into groups of five um just to make it easier. so i'm not so So we don't have more clicking around to edit it out. Sure, yeah, sure, sure. um So i have them all pre-grouped into groups of five, and per each like five sections, we're allowed to skip one, and we are only allowed to change the ranking of a...
00:32:35
Speaker
of a adventure game. If we go and play it. Or if we have a very compelling argument. I don't know about that. okay
00:32:49
Speaker
Fine. So all that said, is there any other setup that I'm missing? I don't think so. Okay. Well, there's some ranking. Here's what I need from you roses.
00:33:00
Speaker
Okay. I need you to pick a number between one and 10. nine
00:33:08
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Let's hope nine isn't one that's blank because of the last time we did this. It is. All right. Let me, give me one second. What do what do you mean blank? Meaning, meaning you picked nine before and I haven't re- I picked nine before. I was trying to pick one I didn't pick. I haven't refilled these since the last time we did this episode. and I changed my, I changed my answer. late Nope. Nope. no Nope. I'm doing it.
00:33:33
Speaker
was trying not to. You failed. Thanks. This will go quick. I thought I was an expert. An expert at picking numbers? That's not what we said. um I took a drink and started laughing and I almost spat out my drink. So please be careful.
00:33:58
Speaker
That is a fun one. Be careful. Don't make me laugh or I'll spit my drink out and it'll be your fault. Yeah, exactly. Okay, Roses. Yes. Our first game today that we are definitively ranking amongst every other adventure game on, if ever released in time, is from 2001. Ew, okay.
00:34:20
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o okay It's by Prelusion Games, published by Games4Kids. Oh, no. It's Gilbert Goodmate and the Mushroom of Fungoria. You're
00:34:37
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pushing a person.
Lesser-Known Games Analysis
00:34:38
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It's Gilbert Goodgrape. Yeah, I heard you. No, I said it wrong. Gilbert Goodgrape? What's he eating Gilbert Goodgrape? Apparently a mushroom from Fungoria.
00:34:53
Speaker
The mushroom is eating Gilbert Goodgrape. What is this?
00:34:59
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There's a man, there's a young there's a young man who has a, who's who's going through psychological trauma because of his brother and his, and a mushroom is eating his body.
00:35:13
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And you have to, what you have to do is you have to stop the mushroom from eating this poor boy. There's also a girl in there somewhere. Yeah, i forget what her role was. Anyway, here's the point. It's called Gilbert Goodmate.
00:35:28
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And it's about, it it seems like a, it seems like one of these Monkey Island inspired, ah like like the bad Monkey Islands that happened in the 2000s. Yeah.
00:35:41
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yeah Yeah, yeah. I could see that. Hmm. I have never heard of this. I have. it's it doesn't look terrible. it looks like somebody put some effort into it. It it looks like it has like,
00:35:56
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there's some real animation to it but here's the thing there in the trailer there's a segment there's a segment in the trailer from 2 45 all the way to 3 15 there's 30 seconds 30 straight seconds of the trailer where he is just cranking something he's just standing there turning crank
00:36:25
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So you're putting your best foot forward and what you have it's a guy just standing there turning a crack. That does not bode well.
00:36:37
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I have been playing that part and it's, yeah, it's making me laugh. ah well i the also the yeah The only sort of bad reviews it seems to have are like this game doesn't work very well on the computer.
00:36:53
Speaker
Which I mean, that makes sense. Games from 2001, tough. Yeah, it's weird. it works so we It's so easy to find ways to work games from nineteen the 1980s, the 1990s.
00:37:06
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DOS is very easy to emulate. Anything on SCUM is very easy. But it's that period of 2000 to like 2010. Yeah.
00:37:14
Speaker
yeah where it is just impossible it's more like 1995 to 2000 say nine where it is impossible to get those fucking games running yeah yeah some of them are really tough all right so the question is what do we think i mean it looks pretty it looks pretty it's fine Like, it's fine. um i on mo On Moby Games, it's got like ah like a 6.9. Nice. Really?
00:37:49
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Nice. yeah um Here's the thing, right? Yeah. where's my Where's the ranking? But we can't just, that's the thing. that we We can't do that. We can't just go by other reviewers, right? We have to look at this using the knowledge we have of adventure games and prejudge these games.
00:38:12
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I think this needs to go by Krabat and the Sorbian King. i think so, too. This feels a lot like Krabat and the Secret of the Sorbian King. Yeah, it does. It totally does. Or the Crown
'My Brother Rabbit' Discussion
00:38:23
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of the Sorb... What the fuck is it called? The Sword of the Sorbian... I don't... I don't but so i don't think it's... The Sword of the Sorbian... There's no reason for... Like, there's no... there's That's not more ridiculous. Krabat and the Secret of the Sorbian King. Okay. Yeah. Are you looking at the list right now? I am, yeah.
00:38:40
Speaker
All right. i didn't I don't have it. Okay. You should probably bring that up. I don't have like, I don't have like the most up to date one. How do you not have the most up to date one?
00:38:53
Speaker
Here we are. Official adventure game ranking. Okay. Wait, maybe I don't have the most. Hang on. Is it called official? Okay. It's the one. No, the one on the drive. The one on the drive. The one on the drive is that is the, is the, is the, is the, is the.
00:39:09
Speaker
Okay. So. Okay. um So you're saying by Krabat the secret of the Sorbian King, I don't think that's wrong. It it it feels very much like if you liked Krabat and the secret of the Sorbian King, is it really secret?
00:39:28
Speaker
That sounds so wrong. the secret of the Sorbian King. What's okay. I guess one day we'll have to find out what a secret is. So yeah we're talking about like,
00:39:38
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like
00:39:42
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were adding it to, it's going to be the new, it's going to be around 80, mid eighties. That's the ladies. Is that, is that how you feel about it? Only like in my gut.
00:39:55
Speaker
Yeah. It's hard to judge games like this. Why? Because like, it's, it's got that same level of non-polish that King's quest seven does. And I would put that high, but I like that game. And i just like, I'm,
00:40:11
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ah I don't know. I think it's fine where it is. You know what? I'll play It's on Steam. No, you won't. I don't believe you're going to play it. going to play it. All right. You are it here, folks. Bye next week. Gose is going to play Gilbert Goodmate and the Mushroom of Fungoria, and she's going to play
00:40:34
Speaker
a Perfect Tide Station to Station. And if she doesn't, you get to punch? her i don't know What the fuck, man? I don't know. I don't know. What do they do? what is What's this?
00:40:46
Speaker
Oh, they can like yell at me. They have to punch me. don't know. I didn't know what to do. I right. All right. Ready for your next game?
00:41:00
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. This is a game I've played. Okay. Great. This is sort of a cross between a um a hidden object game. I think it's known as a hidden object game, but it's a sort of a cross between a hidden object game and an an adventure game. Okay. It's by Artifacts Mundy. That sounds familiar. called My Brother Rabbit. So Artifacts Mundy is just the fucking...
00:41:30
Speaker
ah it is the It is the hidden object. hidden object We both played this for this podcast. We played this for this podcast. Oh, when we talked about, yeah, it rolled. Yeah, this game is so amazing.
Game Mechanics and Storytelling Debate
00:41:45
Speaker
This game is so good. um i I loved this game. It is very hidden object-y, though, so I don't think it it cracks the top ten. But it's going it's going up there.
00:41:57
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Oh, it's so lovely. don't you tell people about My Brother Rabbit? It's been a while since we've played I would say years even since we played it. But what I remember is it's very – it has a story. It's following a story. I believe we're trying to find, like, someone's family slash brother. ah You are playing a very adorable rabbit. And it is a metaphor for somebody's brother being sick in the hospital. Right. Yes. Somebody's being sick in the hospital. Yes. you are caring for –
00:42:30
Speaker
You're searching for your sick... I know you're caring for a couple sick things along the way. Yeah. Like, there's a a sick plant that you have to heal, but... there's There's a lot of metaphors going on. It has those mini-games that a hidden object game has. It has it has the, like, collect-a-collection stuff where it's like, oh, you need to find ten gears in the room. You need to find thirty balloons or whatever.
00:42:53
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, but it's so beautiful. It's very pretty. it's very... got sad elements to it. It's not corny like those crime, like the the mystery crime hidden object puzzles. And it's fun the whole way fun. Yeah, I had a fun time with it. And even though it was hidden object-y the way that the backgrounds are like painted, you could look at these screenshots and insert, like there's a character on the screen. I should i should make that clear. You're not just pointing and clicking. You are the rabbit. You're the rabbit. rain So it is third person.
00:43:30
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Sort of. Okay, you are guiding the rabbit, but you are and a separate entity. So like rabbit, so like there's one, there's one, there's scenes where the rabbit is like stuck.
00:43:42
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And so you as the clicker have to go around doing things and into to free the rabbit. But so you, you are following the adventures of the rabbit, but you are not the rabbit. Yeah, right, right. Just like any third, just like any third person kind of inventory, right? Sort of. I mean, like in, say, Grim Fandango, you are Grim Fandango.
00:44:04
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You are a Grim Fandango. Yeah, you are. You know, the star of the game, Grim Fandango? His name is Grim Fandango. So you think we are Grim you You think we are Manny.
00:44:16
Speaker
Yes. I have to think about that. I don't know. yeah because I don't know how I feel. Because you tell me, because you, the player, are telling Manny, hey, go pick up that object. And he does. In My Brother Rabbit, you, the player, are picking up the object and it's going into your little menu.
00:44:34
Speaker
And the rabbit doesn't go, doesn't like walk over and pick the thing up. okay that's fair yeah that's fair i get it um so it's like are you directing the character or are you yeah playing along with the character and i think in this game you're playing on anyway regardless it rules it's great i think it's like top 20 maybe and probably it's top 20 because we don't have a ton of great stuff and oh what are you talking about we have phantasmagoria um So, okay, like, top ten is Portal, Portal 2, The Last Door, Season 1, Chance of Sonar, Tangle Tower, The Room VR, Tell Me Why, The Cat Lady, Fran Bow Papers, Please. It doesn't beat any of those. No, it does not. King's Quest 2, Pajama Sam 2, Lamplight City, Embracelet, Cube Escape the Lake. It doesn't beat any of those. Nope.
00:45:29
Speaker
The Slaughter Act One Phantasmagoria scratches American Arcadia Dreamfall chapters. I'm thinking it falls in there. I don't. Okay. It's hard for me to say it beats some of those.
00:45:41
Speaker
Okay. Which one? Like scratches. i don't think it beats scratches. Okay. Yeah. what maybe But like, yeah, Dreamfall chapters, maybe. I think it definitely beats, ah okay, the next five. Twilight Oracle, yeah Cosmology of Kyoto, Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise, Been There, Dan That, and As Dusk Falls. I think it definitely beats those. Okay. So I'm thinking it falls somewhere between, maybe, what about between Dreamfall chapters and American Arcadia?
00:46:11
Speaker
I'm fine with that. Okay. Yeah. all right I just, I could not put it above Scratches. I just can't do it. Scratches is so good, man. It is so, it yeah, it is a game that has scared me maybe more than any other game. It's very scary. Yeah.
00:46:26
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Whoa.
Interest in New Games
00:46:27
Speaker
Those damn first person games, man. They get me. They get you. They get me. All right. My Brother Rabbit. Nice. um All right.
00:46:38
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Let's move on to our next fucking game. it is This is the one that i I don't know if we left it in the show or not, but I was positive that I got it wrong. Like I i i typed it wrong. Okay.
00:46:53
Speaker
And then I looked it up and I didn't. Oh, boy. i thought I thought you were talking about Gilbert Goodmate or whatever. this is That's a weird name. October 2024.
00:47:06
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So this is a pretty recent game. It was number, what was it on our list? It was number 3,363. Okay. um It's by Indigo Studios Dash Interactive Stories.
00:47:20
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And it's called Portrait of a Torn.
00:47:27
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but but That sounds really familiar. It's called Portrait of a Torn. Stop saying it like that. It's called Portrait of a Torn. portrait And there's not another word.
00:47:38
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There's not another word after that. It's called Portrait of a Torn. Maybe like a Torn, it can be something else. it Okay. So it's like ah it's like a first person horror sort of ah one of these atmospheric puzzle games, um kind of walking simulator-y.
00:47:58
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ah It looks dark. The... voice acting seems pretty good. Yeah. Seems like a lot of like finding secret doors and yeah.
00:48:12
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Reading documents to uncover or like you walking around an area and then the narrator will be like, you know, like this is where my father yeah did something that that hurt my feeling.
00:48:31
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We've played a lot of games like this, so it's it's difficult without playing this one to to figure out where it could go. Here's something. Here's something. ah A point in its favor.
00:48:45
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Okay. The publisher is called Fire Nut Games. Great. Matt. ah so that So that's good. Okay. That's not anything. No. um You know, it's it's it's it does have and it does have good reviews on Steam. It has fairly middling reviews on Metacritic. Yeah. um It looks fine.
00:49:12
Speaker
i think that's that's what I'm getting from it. It looks fine. I probably would get some enjoyment out of this I've got something. okay
00:49:26
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Gamespew.com says in it's ne in the negative column, column you can't run. oh Oh, that knocks it down. So fucking far, man. Don't love that. Yeah. I don't love that. First person games where you can't run and you're just like, God, I'm moving so slow. i know. Oh my God.
00:49:47
Speaker
Drive me crazy. I've quit walking simulator games because of that. Just like, I can't stand it. I cannot. I feel like I'm going to explode. feel like I'm losing my mind. Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:00
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So that knocks it down a little bit. All right. Well, Are we ready to put it on the list? Does it go before or after The Seventh Guest?
00:50:10
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Fuck. And I ask that because it's like, that game is like... The Seventh Guest is so bad. I know, but like... Okay. But it's classic, and this game is not. I mean, we reached The Seventh Guest pretty up there terms of... Here's the thing.
00:50:27
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If this game... Think about this. Some of these games that we decide to put below Seventh Guest, imagine if they came out before Seventh Guest. Or yeah imagine if Seventh yeah Guest came out, even with better graphics, Seventh Guest came out today.
00:50:44
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Right. People would be like, what the fuck is this stupid game? The only reason people rank people are so like like Seventh much is because it came out and there was like seven games in the world.
00:50:57
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so If this game came out with the with as bad of graphics as Seventh Guest, but with this story and these puzzles or whatever, people would like it better than Seventh Guest. I agree. It would also be a classic. Yeah.
00:51:15
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Because this does seem to have a good story that people are saying that it is good, it is sad. So, what okay. Do we want to move it all the way up to, like, where...
00:51:27
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say, Art of Murder, Cards of Destiny is. Where is that? Oh, yes. 71. that's like 10 higher than we were just looking at. Yeah, I'm okay with that. Do you have any specific place around here? You're looking, there's Hell, a Cyberpunk Thriller, St. Kotar, Corpse Party, Dark Grim Mariopolis are all around there. I think it needs to go right after Dark Grim Mariopolis.
00:51:51
Speaker
Okay. I want to play that game. We have a strong affection for Dark Grim Mariopolis, a game neither of us have ever played. Okay. right let's move on to our next game.
Extended Game Ranking Banter
00:52:00
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This guy, I think I've heard of it. I'm sure I've heard of this game. It's from 2017.
00:52:06
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Oh, I know why, because it's 90% off on Steam right now. So I just looked at this today. The developer Studio Spectar. It's called Victor, a Steampunk Adventure.
00:52:19
Speaker
It sounds cute. It looks kind of like Babar. You play a little warthog man who looks a little bit like a character from Babar.
00:52:31
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Yeah, I can see. can see her like Moomin or something. Yeah, yeah. Maybe it's like a Moomin. It looks pretty dang cute. But is cute enough.
00:52:43
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Okay, it says it says political and Austro-Hungarian humor. No one will understand. It says that in the trailer. um Looks like there's some meta jokes in it.
00:52:54
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Yeah. It's... you're you're You're a little... It's like a... Okay. It is a... boy. What is it?
00:53:06
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Is it a point-and-click game? It says it is. Okay. Yeah, it says it is. it seems to have, like, mini-games in it. there's Yeah. There's where you're flying a little dirigible.
00:53:17
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Yeah. Um...
00:53:23
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This is, I'm just going to say, this is kind of probably not my kind of game. Yeah. If if it were more point and clicky, ah kind of like another game that it kind of reminds me of is like The Big Red Adventure, which is kind of a a cult classic at this point. But that doesn't have many games in it. It focuses on, you know, the okay the story at hand.
00:53:46
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Apparently, the dialogue is gibberish with subtitles, which is kind of fun. Yeah, I like that. i don't mind that. You can change the game's music by collecting records that are in the game. That's fun. And there's a lot of arcade reflexy minigames, apparently. um it It definitely has a cute look to it. Yeah, it it has a fun look to it as well. Like, I feel like we would probably have some fun if we play this game, you know? Yes.
00:54:17
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I agree. But where, how would we, hmm. Doesn't appear to be to like a very popular game. No, no. Um...
00:54:29
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You know what it it reminds me of a little bit is that Clam Man game that we looked up. Yes. Yeah, i remember that? Yeah. Yes. I think it it does have that kind of feel to it.
00:54:42
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where was Where did we put Clam Man? We put it pretty high. I think we did. i think we kind of came around to it because it it's up on it's up at like 30. I would not put this game that high, though. No, I wouldn't either. Because Clam Man is certainly, it's just more polished.
00:54:59
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Yeah.
00:55:01
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Okay. All right. I would rather play this. We'll play this game. I would rather play this than Heart of Osiris. Yes, I agree. All right. Now you say one you'd rather play it than. Okay. I have to i have to find Ankh Heart of Osiris. It's 95. So you have to go above 95.
00:55:20
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Somewhere above 95. Okay. So it's the highest game you would rather play this than. Okay. I would rather play Hans Christian Andersen, the ugly Prince Duckling than this game.
00:55:32
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Yes or no?
00:55:37
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That's above? Yeah, it's at 107. Oh, no, no. Sorry. Sorry. I'm saying, okay. I mean below, like above higher on the rankings. Wait, why are we going higher though? Oh, because i would I'm saying i would I would rather. Okay. Let's start. Oh, right. I would rather play Ankh than. You're right. You're right. I fucked up. Okay.
00:55:55
Speaker
ah Strike that, reverse it. i would rather play I would rather play... For some reason, I thought that I said, like... No, I'm just confusing myself. Okay. All right. So, i okay. I mean, I would rather play... Victor than...
00:56:15
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ah we were just in this section is the problem. ah know. What about Deponia Doomsday?
00:56:23
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man. Oh, man. Would I rather play Victor than Deponia Doomsday? All right. But doing it this way, had I never played Deponia Doomsday before, because I haven't played Victor, I think if I were looking at both of those, I would rather play Deponia Doomsday. Same. I agree. I would rather play Deponia. All right. I would rather play Victor than...
00:56:51
Speaker
what is What was Frank and Drake? Damn it. I hate when you do this. i know here i know I know one thing is that I would, yes, I would rather play Missing since January than Victor. Absolutely. 100%. I would rather play Missing.
00:57:05
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. Is it going to go by Gilbert Goodmate? Yeah, what if we put it right above Gilbert Goodmate? This makes sense, you know? that feels That feels like it makes sense to me. Yeah, all right. It does. So, Victor, a steampunk adventure, number 90, Gilbert Goodmate, 91. All right, let's move on to the next one.
00:57:25
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um why This game sounds familiar, but I don't know anything about it. ah It is from 2020. one t twenty We're a lot of modern fics right now. I know. By Kyle and Artz.
00:57:40
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It is called Samudra. Can you spell it? S-A-M-U-D-R-A.
00:57:51
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Okay. It's on Steam. All right. One point in its favor. It's hand illustrated and it's pretty. It is pretty. One point against it.
00:58:03
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it kind of looks like it's one of these wants to be a Amanita designs game. Yeah. Yeah. um It's got mixed reviews, which, you know, that's tough to, to reflect on too. Cause I like a lot of games that have mixed reviews or that would have mixed reviews today.
00:58:24
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You know, if they were out, it's so pretty. I'm like looking at these. It's so pretty. But when I look at this, I don't know how much of an adventure game I think it is. And part of our list is like how much of an adventure game do we think this is? This is very 2D, almost like Little Nightmares, like running, side scrolling. You know what i mean? Yeah. But do you Huh?
00:58:48
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Okay. It does have many games in it. Yeah. Oh, wait. No, I don't think you're. hold on. That's interesting. Why? No, I don't think you're side-scrolling. okay.
00:59:01
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It kind of looked like you were. I think there's... It looks like there are sequences where you are. Oh, okay. Fair. um Fair. All right. Let me let me go to... I'm going to have to watch some gameplay here. Yeah, let's watch some gameplay.
00:59:14
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All right. I typed in Samudra, and I'm just getting bunch of... a A bunch of things about... storm Like, footage of storms.
00:59:25
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Footage of... Footage of storms? Footage of boats caught in storms.
00:59:33
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Okay, so Samudra is a Sanskrit term meaning the gathering together of waters. It refers to an ocean, sea, or confluence. um It appears in the Rig Veda.
00:59:46
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Okay, so, all right. Samudra game. Game. and And multiple people are saying this. They're saying that the gameplay itself, the mechanic is pretty flawed. Where there's ah where it's slogging, there's a lot of waiting time, you can't jump.
01:00:01
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Oh, yeah. there's ah There's a sequence here where somebody's jumping from one ladder to another and it looks like they're having a hard time just like getting there. and
01:00:12
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So it is kind of side-scrolling. Yeah. Yeah. But not quite in a Little Nightmares way. No, not not in the Little Nightmares way. But to be honest, I think I personally would put this pretty low-ish. Yeah, it looks clunky is the problem with it. It looks clunky. It looks like it's... Yeah, it looks like...
01:00:37
Speaker
it would be a annoying to play. Yeah. It is very beautiful though. It is very beautiful. So that's going to keep, that's going to keep it from sinking too low. So let's see, what are, what are some games that we think are like interesting, but we don't really, we wouldn't, we're not like dying to play.
01:00:59
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My brain went straight to Violet. ah Like almost immediately before we even, as soon as I clicked on it my brain went to Violet in terms of like how I felt. Violet is good. Violet's a good pull. Yeah. um See, I'm an expert.
01:01:17
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ah Okay. I would put, I would put this above Violet. is Um,
01:01:30
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But let's see. what what was So Secret Missions, Mata Hari, and the Kaiser Submarines. Oh, my God. I don't remember. ah What was it? Secret Missions and the Mata Hari. Secret Missions, Mata Hari, and the Kaiser Submarines was like, it looked like a kind of a hidden object game where. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:01:54
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Honestly, i want I kind of want to play this, though. it kind of looks intriguing to me. Yeah. Yeah. all right but okay all right so magnus imago
01:02:09
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i bought that game ah did you played a little bit of it and it was also similarly like it's very interesting looking yeah but the gameplay wasn't super fun yeah um
01:02:24
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So those are the places i'm I'm kind of looking around. It's like. Yeah. Yeah. Does this I'd say we can put it below Magnus Imago, maybe. And above Hans Christian Andersen, the ugly duckling. Yeah.
01:02:36
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so Yeah. Cute. Yeah. I think. Okay. yeah above so Above Hans Christian Andersen, the ugly prince duckling and below Magnus Imago. All right. So funny. All right.
01:02:48
Speaker
Now you have to pick another number between one and ten. Well, I don't want to. Fine. All right. Bye. Oh my God. And I never saw him again. ah Let's go with, um let's go with two. Wait, have I ever, chose I don't think I've ever chose one. Have I?
01:03:09
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i don't know. Why is it? i don't if you ever have, but like, why is it when people are given like pick a number between this and this, they don't pick the actual numbers that they're between. I'm going to pick one. Okay. All right.
01:03:20
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One. ah Did it. So, The first game here is number 2437. It's by Limited Games. It's from 2020. And it's called Grey Hat, A Digital Detective Adventure.
01:03:39
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Oh, okay. Now, this game i own. okay. And it looks – I haven't played it. But it looks so interesting. Oh, this looks very cool. So this game reminds me a lot of Hypnospace Outlaw. Right. Okay. Which i still i haven't i haven't played, but it's got it's like an interface-based game. there it's It seems to be... ah Yeah, it's happening all on like a desktop right computer.
01:04:08
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um
01:04:11
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And but people people like it. Yeah. No, it looks... ah This is one of those I feel like I really would need to play to really determine because the interface is pretty simple.
01:04:26
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um Like a lot of games in this vein, right? Yes. I mean, the interface for Her Story was very simple, but people, that's like a classic. People love that game. So this is tough.
01:04:40
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and I have played Hypnospace and I liked it until I got tired of it. Okay. Yeah. Okay. that So you didn't make it to the end of it. I think I did. i just, I slogged through it because I was like, oh, I don't know. i think I got stuck in it and I got like my mood was bad. Okay. All
01:05:04
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But it is really unique and people, yeah, people are saying they really like it. The overwhelming comment is this is not for everyone. So i wonder. i love games that are not for everyone. Yeah, I know. Right. Like that, that makes me excited about it. Yeah. Yeah.
01:05:24
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I don't know. What, what's your, what's your inclination?
01:05:30
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I'm thinking kind of high. I'm thinking like around, okay, where a wavetail and Astrologaster are. Yeah, that actually clicks. Astrologaster clicks. Unique games with unique mechanics yeah that are
01:05:49
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high quality and tell a good story. all right like All right. Like, I would think maybe below Professor Layton, but above Orion Berger. Above Orion Burger? I think so. Okay.
01:06:02
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It's doing something more interesting. Where would you say, okay above or below Goblins Quest 3? ah ah Below. Really? Yeah. You really like Goblins Quest 3? No, I don't like it, but it's... No, I don't like it, okay? I don't even like the Black Cauldron, and I see that there, but I have to, like, regard them as, okay like, you know?
01:06:28
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Sort of. i sort of know. I trust your judgment. Whatever you want to do, I trust your judgment.
01:06:36
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All right. All right. ah Let's, okay. Why don't we put it, yeah, below Goblin's Quest, above Orion Burger, and close to Wave. That's close to Wavetail and Australogaster. So that's number 35. So Grey Hat, A Digital Detective Adventure is our new 35. Okay.
01:06:53
Speaker
Moving forward. This next one is number 481 from 1997. Uh-oh. Oh, yay. i've I don't know that I've ever heard of this game. It's by Callisto Entertainment. It's called Dark Earth.
01:07:13
Speaker
Okay, Dark Earth. It looks hey kind of like one of the... You know what it looks like? It looks like... ah looks like everquest i'm like it looks yeah it looks like that and it also is giving like early like skyrim this is really interesting so the distributor yeah like morrowind distributor is micro pros and they did several adventure games they developed the phantom of the opera adventure game dragon sphere they had a few very like beautiful looking adventure games
01:07:53
Speaker
Wow. All right. Yeah. So this is interesting. Game Domain puts it through, well, through the review of this underdog. Dark Earth, the world's first real-time adventure, attempts to redefine the genre by placing killer puzzles with arcade-like combat sequences. On one hand, this decision has created a far more open-ended game and has eliminated the frustration typically associated with hard puzzles. On the other hand, it makes the game somewhat short.
01:08:15
Speaker
Fully exploring this game is the work of days, not weeks. Fortunately, this so this is all from game domain. I don't know how long ago. um I could see this being a game that looks kind of weird with the 3D, but... And then you play it and you're like, whoa!
01:08:32
Speaker
Yes, exactly. Like Blade Runner. Blade Runner is ah is a classic adventure game. It doesn't look that great. I think it looks terrible. um But people like that game. And a Planescape Torment, I don't like how that game looks very much. But people like that game. And... Even, even, i dare say this, even King's Quest VIII, it has a following. People do like it for kind of like what it is. i was going to say King's Quest VIII. Yeah. um All right.
01:09:02
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This seems like a ah game that's very hard to get running. um oh it's got a lot. It's got, it's really well reviewed Abandonware. Yeah.
01:09:14
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I'm guessing it has like ah a following, you know? This is a game that this is fucking, this game is intriguing. i know. I kind of really want to play this game. ah That's what I was thinking. I'm like, this game actually, i feel like, yeah, it might not look the best, but it might be a really great game.
01:09:32
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Man. Okay. It's post-apocalyptic. There's some survival horror to it or some, sort yeah, not horror, some survival elements to it. Moby Games has got a 7.9. It's pretty good. It's not on Steam. It's on GOG, I think.
01:09:49
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Is it? Is it on GOG? Let me check.
01:09:54
Speaker
No, it's on a wish list, I think. Right. Like people want it. Yeah, they want it. Yeah, vote to bring this game to GOG. Yeah. Damn. Damn.
01:10:06
Speaker
So we would have hard time playing. Damn it, I want to play Dark Earth so bad. Oh, man, am, like, aching to play Dark Earth. I'm, like, looking at this like, fuck, I want to play Dark Earth. Oh, my God.
01:10:18
Speaker
How bad do you want to play Dark Earth? So bad. want to play Dark Earth so bad. Let's play it in Adventure X. how do How do we play it at Adventure live, I don't know, a live play. live playthrough Dark Earth.
01:10:35
Speaker
Everybody will show up. Everybody will come. Oh, yeah. We will raise ticket prices by $300. The showrunners would definitely not be disappointed if we pivoted from our original idea to Let's Play Dark Earth. We are we are raising the ticket prices specifically for All right.
01:10:54
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yeah Yeah. All right. Okay. Now we have to rank this thing. I fucking love this game.
01:11:01
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love dark earth. This is my favorite game. This is my favorite game of all time. It has to be number one. It's going up there. All right. So what are some other games we haven't. All right. What are other games we haven't played, but we got really excited by. um
01:11:17
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It doesn't matter where we can put this at the very end. I'm going to play this game. Okay. Well, you're going to play this game. I'm going to play Dark Earth. If I can figure out how to play Dark Earth, I'm going to play Dark Earth. Okay. i i'm Why don't you put it by Amos Green's final propose? I was thinking like Pineheart, Shady Part of Me, Midnight Girl, Lily looking through. Okay, that's only a- Yeah, that's fine.
01:11:41
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These are around the games that we ever we look at and we're like, oh, this looks good. I want to play this. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. So I'm going to put it above Shady Part of Me, but below Pineheart's. Okay. Okay.
01:11:54
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dar bird by the way i did have a moment when we were choosing like a topic of what to do for this episode i was like let's play bosch's damnation the one of the amos green games we should play botch's damnation the carol the carol we should we should play it one of the carol reed games i think we should we should but first we gotta play dark earth if we know how to do it if we can yeah
01:12:21
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All right, Dark Earth is there, is number 41. That's ridiculous. I can't believe you discovered a new favorite game. That's amazing. I'm so happy for you. I put it on the list very normally, and it looks normal, and I did it very normal. What did Oh, my God.
01:12:40
Speaker
It's a joke for me and for me only. all right, next game. Okay. Okay. ah This is 2,392 from 2020 Darkling Room Games. It is Darkfall Ghost Vigil.
01:12:58
Speaker
What are these Darkfall games? I don't know. What are these names in general? Okay, Darkfall Ghost. There's a bunch of Darkfall games. The first one is called Darkfall The Journal. It's from 2002. Yeah, people like these. And it's like a first-person sort of like um horror mystery kind of like Right. Oh, I don't like it.
01:13:21
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And then aon the next Darkfall game. it if it turns out we already have a Darkfall game on here. Don't we? Do we, though?
01:13:33
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Do we? go look this ah dark We Dark Earth. There's a game called Dark Earth that I just heard that I'm really into.
01:13:45
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No, we don't. We don't. I was just... Darkfall 2 was released in 2004. It's called Darkfall Lights Out. And it's a little more polished. um It's a little smoother. it's kind of theyre They're kind of like these Myst style games. Yeah, they are. Yeah. I believe I have one in my library if I'm mistaken. Maybe a little more and sort of like down. i have Darkfall 1 and 2 in my library. um And then Darkfall Lost Souls came out in 2010 and to to terrible reviews. Okay.
01:14:13
Speaker
Okay. And then this Darkfall Ghost Vigil is definitely more modern than these other games. And it looks like it's getting a little bit away from the Myst-like side of it, but it has yeah that first-person...
01:14:34
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you know. Yeah. it's I can see what you mean. It didn't work very Mist-like, for sure. um But they they seem to be pretty liked by you know by its fan base, and does fit all the criteria for like good a horror point-and-click, you know? Yeah, it didn't get a yeah it didn't get a ton of reviews.
01:15:00
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but
01:15:06
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This is another one of those games where it's like, it looks this way, but it could be amazing in terms of like the story. now So Darkfall Lost Souls actually did get some good reviews.
01:15:21
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um
01:15:26
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It almost feels like, all right, I don't know that this is true. I don't know anything about this goddamn game. Okay. But it almost feels like because there's such a big gap between Darkfall...
01:15:41
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What was the one that people didn't like? Lost Souls. Lost Souls. And Ghost Vigil.
01:15:51
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It almost feels like this is the somebody this is almost like so them being like, we're going to we're going to take another run at this and we're going to we're going to fix this IP. Sure, sure.
01:16:02
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Which is so I always I always find those sorts of things intriguing. Yeah, yeah.
01:16:10
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I don't know. it's clearly not bad. Yeah. I know that much. Like, I know it's yeah So.
Mystery Game Rankings
01:16:18
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I know where it doesn't go. Right. You know?
01:16:22
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I'm thinking it goes around the first person mystery games like Amos Green and Nancy Drew. got to put it below Nancy Drew, I think. Agatha Christie.
01:16:34
Speaker
And Murder, She Wrote. It's going above Byzantine, The Betrayal. thought people like that game. Yeah, but people like this game. true I think I would rather, well I guess my what I'm saying, all right, here's what I'm saying. I would rather play Dark Fall Ghost Vigil than Last Half of Darkness Beyond the Spirit's Eye.
01:16:55
Speaker
Not me. I love the Last Half of Darkness games. Okay. Would you rather play it than, would you rather play Byzantine the Betrayal? No. Or Darkfall Ghost Vigil? Okay. No, I can say that. It's our new 55, Darkfall Ghost Vigil. The last half of darkness. This game's a um All right.
01:17:17
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We'll move on to our next one. This is number 17.
01:17:22
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this is This one might be tough. Oh, boy. Because we know it or don't know it. I don't think either of us know it this game. okay um It's from 1982. Oh, God.
1982 Game 'Transylvania' Nostalgia
01:17:35
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It is a game called Transylvania. And it's one of these mystery house style games. Oh, I know it. I own it.
01:17:45
Speaker
i own No way. You've played this game? I own this game in a box. You've never talked to me about this game. We'll look at it. Are you looking at it? There's not much to say about it, is there? um Yeah.
01:17:57
Speaker
Yeah, I own this game. I found it in box. Are you glad that you own this game? I am. I am. I am glad that I own this game. I think it's kind of cool um because it is so old. you know It's so early. It's it's before King's Quest. and I think it's got an amazing box. Did you see the box art? That's why I bought it, really, I think. is I did not get to see the box art.
01:18:20
Speaker
i'll I'll link it to you. We'll put it in the show notes or whatever. um Yeah, I don't know. There's something about these older games that just leave like a footprint.
01:18:32
Speaker
that and That being said, it's probably not better than Mystery House. And Mystery House is is pretty, I think we can say it. It's not that good. It was great for the time. Yeah. yeah at least up I don't know. Okay. I don't know. You're not going to have fun playing Mystery House.
01:18:49
Speaker
No, I actually had the opposite of fun playing Mystery House yes because it's very soft lockable and I got lost in the woods. It was not good. It's not a fun time. This is what, yeah, this is one of those games. This is one of those games that you're going to play and you're going to like, God fucking damn it. Like you're going like, this is part of game history, but i am so annoyed. i am not enjoying myself. It's just interesting because it's such a combination of being annoyed and just kind of liking it.
01:19:18
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You know, just kind of like liking... Being annoyed? Okay. No! For that reason, i was thinking of putting it around 99 where the Dark Crystal is. Yeah, I was actually thinking that too Funnily enough, it's also 1982. Yeah, i was thinking that too.
01:19:35
Speaker
All right. We're there. We did it. We solved it. It goes below the Dark Crystal. Yes, that's fine. above Are you impressed? Are you impressed that have that game in box? I am. I cannot believe it. I assumed this was a game that neither of us had knew about or played. It was just one of those classic, ah or like not even classic.
01:19:58
Speaker
Just way too old. Not all old things are classic. So ah old games that most people haven't heard of or played. and I think it is that, but then you know it.
01:20:09
Speaker
but also something like really heartwarming is this was somebody's like first computer game because it is that old, right? and like Or maybe you know a lot of people's first computer game, and you know damn well that there are people who have just amazing memories of trying to get through Transylvania. think that's so sweet. Right, that sort of thing where you you just keep banging your head against it, and you and your whole family are playing it and you're playing it for weeks.
01:20:32
Speaker
I mean, that was me in King's Quest III. I played that for literal years. So...
01:20:42
Speaker
Next game is from 2002. Ugh, I hate this era. Okay. It's by Saturn Plus.
'Jazz and Faust' Introduction
01:20:51
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It's a Russian game called Jazz and Faust.
01:20:59
Speaker
Very blurry screenshots. Very bad 3D art, but maybe good for 2002. It looks a little... um Quest for Glory 5-ish. Oh, my favorite, though.
01:21:15
Speaker
i do love that game. um Jazz and Faust. Jazz and Faust. jazz and How do we feel about Jazz and Faust? what What can we learn about ourselves? What can we learn about ourselves while playing Jazz and Faust? Are you more of a Jazz or a Faust?
01:21:31
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I think I'm more of a Faust. I'm kind of evil. I'm feeling like a kind of a bit of a Jazz. I've got bad intentions, you know? Jazz and Faust is a detective mystery adventure game.
01:21:44
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IGN gave it a painful rating as ugly, boring, terribly written and acted out even worse. GameSpot said the game had dull, clumsy gameplay and bad writing. Adventure gamers described it as mediocre and best. Yeah, I think this needs to go pretty low, dude. Gameplay is similar to Myst? What?
01:22:03
Speaker
It doesn't look like Myst, so that's ah interesting. It says still images represent the game world. That does not look like what I'm seeing in these screenshots. But it must be. but I've got to look at some... Let's see if I can get a video here. Yeah.
01:22:17
Speaker
there is There is gameplay for it, surprisingly. It's not like Myst. So fucking, what the hell is Wikipedia talking
Comparing 'Jazz and Faust'
01:22:24
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about? Yeah, I'm not, I think you were right before. I think it's more like kind of that Quest for Glory 5 vibe.
01:22:33
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ah You know, I'm also getting like like the game Keepsake or something like that. Yeah. One of those early games. Yeah, that was also kind of overwrought. Right. Like this, the verb coin is like this crazy dragon. Like I'm looking at the verb coin right now and I'm like, I have no idea what any of these things mean.
01:22:54
Speaker
Amazing. like do i click Do I click the ah ruby circle or the other ruby circle?
01:23:03
Speaker
the cursor is like a jagged, hollow cursor. like Yeah, it is. It's like it's like these things where like early on people thought that was one of the ways to make games cooler is like making the UI super, super complicated. Cool cursor. And it's like, no, this sucks. This Yeah, I mean, i i think you'll know what I mean when I say this, but it's also giving like, i don't know if you're in the same gameplay as I am, but there's a setting around 49 minutes in. It's also giving a little bit of those pre-rendered screens in Grim Fandango or maybe Siberia.
01:23:40
Speaker
um Okay, yeah. Except it's not, you know, it's it's maybe not as, certainly the sprites are not as good. I think we can say that. But you you do play a character that moves around. You And it doesn't look as bad in motion as it does in screenshots.
01:23:55
Speaker
Yeah. And that's why, i mean, it looks better than Quest for Glory 5. The running animation does, at least. Nothing else does, but the running animation does. Maybe. love Don't even say it. Don't say you like this game. This game is growing on me. Oh my God.
Debating 'Jazz and Faust' Ranking
01:24:13
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I like this game.
01:24:15
Speaker
No, you know it's not good. You know This is new Dark Earth. I'm putting it up. I put it 42 right below Dark Earth and we play this game. No. You'll never let me put it there. I will never let you put it there. I like this game. i'm gonna i'm I'm kind of excited about Jazz and Faust. and All right.
01:24:37
Speaker
what I like about it is that you could be either jazz or Faust. Oh my God. Oh my God. You were so annoying. Just put it somewhere. All right. Yeah. Number one, jazz and fast. Um,
01:25:03
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um All right. Where do I want to put? Where do we want to put Jazz and Faust? i I think it's going to be better than you than we think it is. don't know. I've lost it now. Just laughing mess now. I want to put it. I want to put it.
01:25:21
Speaker
I want to put it above the seventh guest.
01:25:27
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I want to put it above the seventh guest. I would rather play this the seventh guest. Oh, Fine. Really? fine. All right. Jazz and Fouse. Our new eight, number 84.
01:25:39
Speaker
Because I hate the seventh guest that much. Me too. Yes. All right. So do we want to. All right. We are at. And we took a couple breaks. so we're probably at an hour. An hour and a half.
01:25:53
Speaker
Yeah. Right now. Do we want to go for one more section? Can we do like a set of five maybe? Another set of five. One more set of five. All right. Give me a number between one and ten.
01:26:06
Speaker
Still laughing about this stupid game. God, I love Jazz and Faust. Stop. God, I can't stop thinking about Jazz and Faust. I'm gonna dream about Jazz and Faust tonight. yeah Here's what i'm going to do. After Suze, we hang up. I'm going to go play Dark Earth and wish I played Jazz and Faust.
01:26:24
Speaker
I can't believe you that that game grew on you i was I was watching that play through, and I was like, fuck, I want to play Jazz and Facts.
01:26:35
Speaker
We cannot be trusted with anything. All right, let's do another block. We are the experts, and we're the what? Let's do another block. Yes, tell me tell me a number between 1 and 10. 3. three Oh, wow. You picked one that I actually had. all right.
'The Uncertain Last Quiet Day' Mention
01:26:49
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This will be interesting. This is an interesting one. Okay. So the first one is by Common Games from 2016. It's number 1711. It's called The Uncertainty Last Quiet Day.
01:27:04
Speaker
The Uncertainty Last Quiet. It's another, it seems like another first person game. You play a robot. Yeah. I like robots.
01:27:15
Speaker
Man, I'm having so much time. So it's such a hard time switching from the Jazz and Faust walkthrough. No, it's a third-person game. Okay, it's a third-person game. You better be closing every tab that says Jazz and Faust in it right now.
01:27:31
Speaker
It's a third-person game. You play a robot.
01:27:37
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You play a robot and you you look like you're in sort of a post, ah like a destroyed Earth, like a post-apocalyptic Earth that is all robots now.
01:27:47
Speaker
um You're like living, almost like you're play acting as a human, but you're a robot.
01:27:55
Speaker
um Is the the sort of... Okay. Uh-oh. What? What? What? Rock Paper Shotgun says the game is disastrous and not worth playing because of ghastly sluggish controls and barely comprehensible writing and translation. But if adventure gamers praised the graphics and story. They disliked the controls and thought some puzzles were frustrating. Pocket Gamer criticized it for having poor writing, uninspired puzzles, and a wonky camera.
01:28:23
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I hate a wonky camera. Steam, it's mostly positive.
01:28:31
Speaker
it's only about two hours long yeah people are saying it's really short this is interesting never before have we seen such a strong disagreement between yeah that's pretty intense i think i love the uncertain last quiet no i'm kidding um
01:28:51
Speaker
I quit this podcast. ah On Metacritic, it's got a 6.0. So just like nobody can agree on this game. Yeah, that's interesting. A lot of people, but it it seems like it like most of these reviews are trending towards it's bad. Yeah.
01:29:07
Speaker
Again. And my inclination is also that I probably wouldn't get too much, especially with bad mechanics. That's so difficult. True. Yeah. I really like IMDB has a 5.9.
01:29:20
Speaker
I really like the look of it, though. I like the look of it. Yeah. It seems like middle of the road in so many ways. Yeah, does.
01:29:31
Speaker
It's been given for a away for free on Steam before. Okay. Okay. Okay, good. That's always a good sign.
01:29:42
Speaker
um and So I guess like... Oh my God. It's also called Uncertain ah Episode 1, Last Quiet Day. I saw that. So I don't know if there is going more. All right, if that drops it even further. Yeah, it's going to have to. Yeah.
01:29:58
Speaker
All right, this is going pretty low, I think. not i think Not only because it has bad reviews. um ah Bad controls just, like, ruins a game, right? It does ruin a game. And, like, yeah. And so I wasn't sure, right? like Because I don't want to base our thing just on other people's reviews. Right. the moment I saw...
01:30:16
Speaker
episode one i was like all right fuck this okay so the question is does it go as low as you know something like violet which is 119 my inclination is to put it lower than violet you know like lower than biohazard you know escape room lower than biohazard escape room um yeah that makes sense i think yeah i think it does too Lower than Violet. ah Lower than Biohazard Escape But probably not lower the lower than Blue Force.
01:30:49
Speaker
No, not as low as Blue Force. Right. And that's at 131. Is it worse than Super Jazz Man is the question.
01:31:01
Speaker
Didn't we decide Super Jazz Man looks kind of racist? Yes. Let's put it above Super Jazz Man. Yes. Agreed. Agreed. And then just whatever's above Super Jazzman Room 208. I have no idea what that is, but it's lower than that.
01:31:13
Speaker
Okay. ah Oh, man. we I don't remember half of these games. Okay. This next game, this is going to be an interesting one.
Classic Game 'Lure of Temptress'
01:31:21
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Because this next game is by Revolution Software.
01:31:24
Speaker
Oh, okay. It is from 1991. It is Lore of Temptress. Okay. Oh, I've played that game. Okay. I haven't gotten very far. I've played this game, but I've never gotten very far in it. I've like escaped the prison and then said, all right. You're like, fuck this. I've been like, okay, that was that was that was fairly fun. And I found it fun, but what it does, okay. Big thing about Lure of the Temperance. It's an early, early revolution software game.
01:31:58
Speaker
I think it's yeah it's i think it's it's before Beneath a Steel Sky. Yeah. i think um I think it might be the first game. Yeah, I think it is before. Yep. Yeah. Directed by Charles Cecil.
01:32:10
Speaker
Designed by Dave Cummins. So like these are people who will become... in very well-known and very sort of legendary game designers yeah in the adventure game space. And it's got really nice pixel art for the time. it also, the puzzles are good.
01:32:28
Speaker
The biggest problem with Lure of the Temptress is the way you play it. The interface is you click on a thing and this long list literal list of verbs scrolls down from the thing you've clicked on and you're just kind of like going down the list yeah Yeah. And it's it's really kind of an... It's it's it's a really annoying interface. they They hadn't figured out their interface yet. Which is interesting because yeah Beneath a Steel Sky is single click, right?
01:33:02
Speaker
it I believe it it was is single click, yeah. So they went the exact opposite way. Or it has like the thing at the top, like the bar at the top that a lot of adventure games... I don't remember.
01:33:15
Speaker
No, I think it's single click. Oh, it's single click? Okay. I'm pretty sure. So one of the... So, it's yeah, it's one of the worst ways to do a point and click verb interface I've ever seen in Laura of the Temptress. Besides, I guess, the 90s version of the suit that we were just talking about with the crazy um verb coins. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:33:40
Speaker
um um Yeah, it's it's an it's interesting because it's one of those games where it's it's it is a classic. It looks classic. A lot of people know about it. But it's it's also it's a game from a good company that needed to happen before other very good games could be developed.
01:33:58
Speaker
I agree. But yeah it's not a bad game. So I think so we're definitely got to rank it above bad games. Yeah. Yeah.
01:34:15
Speaker
Weirdly, I'm looking at like Helheim Hassel for some reason. Like I'm looking up in the 40s. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think it's fair to put it even like around like Orion Burger. You know what I mean? Because we had that same feeling. It's like, no, it's not the best game, but it's got something about it.
01:34:35
Speaker
You know, I would rather play Lore of the Temptress than Orion Burger. i You can do that because I'm neutral. Like, completely neutral. I would play either or. They're very, like, same to me.
01:34:47
Speaker
All right. Nice. So, Lure of the Temptress is our new 36. glad we're getting familiar stuff. Yeah, same. um Here's another... Speaking of familiar stuff... Oh, it better be King's Quest V, baby!
01:35:04
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This is from 2009 Studios.
01:35:08
Speaker
wf studios You're our expert here because this is last half of darkness. Tomb of Zogir. Oh my God. These games rock.
01:35:20
Speaker
I don't know if you've ever played any of these games, but they're old. They're pretty old. um Not like 80s old, but they kind of look 80s old. They look worse than... I know. Like, look, ah look, listen.
Comparing 'Tomb of Zogir'
01:35:35
Speaker
These games aren't the best, but they're fun. Okay. Yeah, they started on, they start, so ah me and my friend ah Clint, Lazy Game Reviews, or just LGR these days, we did full-on Let's Plays of The Last Half of Darkness, and then some of it, some of their sequels. Yeah, not not the modern ones, because at the time,
01:35:56
Speaker
we couldn't We couldn't really run them. But we did play the DOS, you know, the the very pixely DOS ones. And we liked them, honestly. And it does seem that they did get better in time. It's one of those, I think it's one of those companies that utilize 3D in a better way.
01:36:15
Speaker
And thus their games got better as they got newer instead of worse. Okay, so...
01:36:25
Speaker
Last half of Darkness. ah the The other last half of Darkness game we have on here is number 56. It's the last half of Darkness beyond the spirit's eye.
01:36:36
Speaker
How does that measure up? How does that game that we've never played measure up to this game we've never played? i mean, yeah I think for me, they're just... Tomb Zogier. Yeah, I think for me, they're just kind of one in the same a little bit. Also, I just found something amazing. i didn't realize that WRF re-released the original Last Half of Darkness.
01:36:59
Speaker
Like the original DOS game from 1989 and did it in modern in modern graphics yeah what w rf and They did some stuff.
01:37:13
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Willy, really fun. These games are really, really fun. they're just They're just real cheesy, weird, silly horror games.
01:37:25
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so you don't So you don't feel any differentiation between these two laugh test Lab Lab Darkness games? I tune do not. okay They're like the same. They could be on the same thing.
01:37:38
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I'll say this. um Last half of Tarkness, Tomb of Zogir got way worse reviews than Spirit's Eye. Oh, well then put it... I mean, yeah. Do you just put them next to each other but below? Oh, let's put it below Darkfall Ghost Vigil. Okay. Let's put it below Byzantine the Betrayal. Okay.
01:37:55
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So they're close. Okay. There you But it's a little lower. That looks good. That looks right. That looks good. So it is ah Last Half of Darkness Tomb of Zogier is number 58 and Darkfall Ghost Vigil is now at number 56. Okay. Okay.
01:38:11
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This next game i' have played a little bit of. It looks cool. um
01:38:21
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It's a cyberpunk thriller from 2022. Insert disc 22 is the name of the developer and publisher. It is called Born Punk.
01:38:33
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I remember it had
01:38:38
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good reviews yeah when i when it first came out. Um... It's got sort of... um It's pixel art, but sort of like cute pixel art.
01:38:53
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um Sort of softer pixel art. Yeah. It is about a... It is a cyberpunk future game. and Yeah, I was going to say, I've seen other games kind of have this similar similar aesthetic.
01:39:09
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And you you play this like... Punky hacker woman who sort of... um
01:39:18
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You know, i think it's like she she wakes up hungover and, like, her friend is coming over and, like... God, I wish I could remember. i played it. I played just the first maybe hour of it.
01:39:33
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And it definitely had that thing where I got into the world and I was like, I don't I feel a little unmotivated. And honestly, people agree with that. Like it that a lot of people are saying it actually has a very strong start and it is a solid attempt, but it can't it doesn't hold on to that.
01:39:52
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Okay. Yeah. I didn't go, i mean, yeah, I didn't get very far in it at all. Yeah. um
01:40:01
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I think, I remember it just like lingering in places too long. Like that there was too much to, know, this is thing that happens with point and click games sometimes where there's just like, there's a little, you can kind of get stuck in a space too long, there's like too much to look at or there's too many little puzzles or yeah um there's too much dialogue you have to go to through, too many characters to talk to or something like that. And I remember, or too many little cut scenes. And I remember going through that in this game and that's what sort of demotivated me. Yeah. Though, I bet if I, this would be a game that if I i muscled my way through, I'd be like, that game was really good.
01:40:49
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Okay. So I don't want to put it super low. Yeah. i My first thought is around Anachronist Many Happy Returns and um ah the art The Will of Arthur Flabbington. So we have those in the 70s.
01:41:07
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Around St. Kotar is around. i Yeah. I trust your judgment and I agree. going to put it below Anachronist Many Happy Returns. Okay. Okay. Two above St. Kodar, one above Mission Critical, two below Will of Arthur Flavinkin. It's the new number three. Okay. Sorry. And you'll have to let me know if you play more of this game.
01:41:29
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Let me take that again, and then you can say this again. It's the new number 73. Okay, and you'll have to let me know if you decide to get more into this game. Okay. and One day I will. like it's It's always been my...
01:41:42
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intention to go back i know you have priorities now though with dark earth and well i'm gonna be spending the rest of my life the rest of his life the next the 200 years remaining of my life playing ah dark earth and fuck what's it called something in fact jazz and
01:42:05
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Okay. So this next game, number 596. This is our last game today. It's from 2000. It's ah by Eat Your Dog Productions. Don't like that. How dare you? um It's a game called Muscarine, which is apparently a natural product found in mushrooms.
01:42:24
Speaker
Wow. This is our second mushroomed-based game. Don't click on the Adventure Gamers link because we don't click on Adventure Gamers. That didn't even come up for me. Okay. Okay.
01:42:36
Speaker
All right. Here's the problem. Wait, I can't find anything. Yes. Is this the the Amiga game? Or... is it an Amiga game? No, we're looking for something else. I don't understand what I'm looking for. Is
01:42:52
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is it the one about Erica Evermore? on Moby Games? Yeah, or it's also called Erica's Trip. Yeah. Well, this looks terrible. Hey, it kind of looks like shit. Oh, hey,
01:43:12
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hey, yo. All right, all right, all right. It gets some points because it's got a warning at the beginning of the game that says, don't play this game if you are a racist, fascist, sexist, or religious fanatic. The pure and raw creative energy emanating from this game is considered fatal for a narrow-minded being like you. That rules.
01:43:27
Speaker
Okay, okay. So we know who we're, you know, that's that's that's fine. Okay. It looks a little abstract. It looks like it's made in Microsoft Paint. It does. I'm guessing it was.
01:43:40
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um i think it's it's definitely a like a drug thing. Yeah. um So it was on Amiga?
01:43:53
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That's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing Amiga long play, Muscarine, or Erica's Trip.
01:44:01
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I don't know, man. All right. All right. You know, here's ah here's a game that springs to mind that's already on the list. Because we we we don't have much info about this game. But a game that springs to mind that's already on this list is Chop Suey. I was going to say the same. Yeah, Chop Suey. A game that looks like I wouldn't enjoy it, but I appreciate it as a artistic venture.
01:44:22
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Yeah. and you know, more power to them. Yeah. And I really like that, that. the fuck off fascists uh yeah yeah that's fun it's better than blue force better than blue force do you want to put it right above chop suey or right below below okay because i think i i really do think chop suey had like a lot going for it yeah um Yeah, and I think what this game has going for it is probably... i mean, I'm sure... I don't know. I don't know anything about it. I'm trying to... ah
01:45:04
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Yeah. Guys, we don't know anything. i'm just thinking about Dark Earth. Oh, my God! so Man, we are up to 150 games. Crazy. we're doing All right. Do you want to do the insane thing? do you want to do an insane thing? And do you want to very, do you want to see how quickly you can read this list?
01:45:23
Speaker
No. Okay. We've been talking for two hours. Yeah, fine. I'll do it next. I, I, I, you have my hand up or to my heart. You are making so many goddamn promises this episode. Pushing up roses. I do that sometimes.
01:45:39
Speaker
All right. So you have to play. Okay. So here's the things you have to do. Okay. You have to play.
01:45:51
Speaker
Perfect tide station to station. Yeah. You have to play. What was the other thing you said you'd play? don't remember. Portrait of a Torn.
01:46:02
Speaker
No, it wasn't. It wasn't Portrait of a Torn, but it was one of the ones that we talked about. Victor, a steampunk adventure? No, it wasn't that. It was Ghost Vigil? Darkfall Ghost Vigil?
01:46:15
Speaker
No, because you'll you'll know when you it. I'll know when I edit it. Yeah. You said you have to play that game. and you next And next time we do this list, you have to read the whole list. I'm going to read the whole list next time. I'm going to do it.
01:46:28
Speaker
My God. I'm going to fucking do it, guys. Why are you torturing yourself? Because I like it. All right.
01:46:38
Speaker
Well, thank you guys so much for listening to this. These episodes are insane. And i can't believe you guys. I can't believe you people like them. Like every time we do these episodes, they get such good feedback. And it's that just means that you are fans rule. I mean, this was great for me because I witnessed you ah fall in love with something in real time.
01:47:05
Speaker
dark earth how do you get i don't know some but you know what though someone's gonna know and they're gonna tell you you wanna do you wanna finish wrapping up while i look for dark earth sure so matt's busy right now because he uh fell in love with an adventure game as one does oh yeah matt still live still live my friend um
01:47:29
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um oh fuck this episode it's the best no i'm i'm very much fun yeah uh wrapping yes i will wrap up this episode by saying i gotta do it in dos box but i found it you did well good job man i can't wait to hear what you think this better be you better like it that's all i got to say about that or you'll beat me up If you want to ah give us your thoughts on Dark Earth or Jazz and Faust. I've got to go see if I can find Jazz and Faust. That might be even harder, to be honest with you. You can always email us at mattandroses at gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you. Buy it from Amazon.
01:48:11
Speaker
Oh, my God. No, please don't. all i found I already found both of these. But they both need, I both, both of them need some real tooling. Oh, I'm sure they do. In DOS box. So oh right sure keep going. I apologize. So don't, yeah. So don't email Matt anymore. he figured it out. we We don't need your help.
01:48:31
Speaker
Maybe he does need your help. You can email me just to make sure I'm doing okay while I'm playing these games. Make sure he's okay. 200 life. Yeah, I'm going to have a hard time getting him away from Jazz and Faust. Oh my god, Jazz and Faust. You can also check out our Instagram, Save Your Game Podcast on Instagram. We give updates there.
01:48:52
Speaker
Sometimes we post cutesy things. You can check out my new Jazz and Faust fancast. Oh no, please do not start another podcast. going to be so Matt and Jazz and Faust. Ha ha ha ha!
01:49:07
Speaker
ah You can email us mattandroses at gmail.com. And i think that's i think that's about it. um Yeah. We love you. Come back next week where Roses will 100% have played those two games she said but she would play.
01:49:22
Speaker
Yeah. And I, yeah. It's going to happen. We're definitely going to have shit to talk about next week. so Yeah. um
01:49:31
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I guess the only thing left to be said And this this episode especially proves the theory that podcasts is art.
01:49:44
Speaker
Yeah. It also proves that art is supper. Damn it, it does, doesn't it?