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S2-101: Last "Snow Talk with the Boys" of 2024

S2 E101 ยท The Snowjobs Podcast
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The guys sit down with some friends to talk about how the season has gone so far, and see where the last snow conversation of 2024 takes us!


Music Credit: Rev Theory

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Introduction and Greetings

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The SnowJobs Podcast
Here we go. Snow jobs nation back again, bringing you episode 101, 101 of the snow jobs podcast powered by Top Gun backblades as always. I'm Steve. That's right. You know who's with me.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Pimp daddy e Rick James. What's up, Jeremy?
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RICK JAMES
Hey, just another night here with the boys.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
All bringing the energy right off the bat.
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RICK JAMES
but Pretty, pretty, pretty, uh, Oh God.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
There he is.
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RICK JAMES
shush Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
How was Christmas?
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RICK JAMES
It was Christmas. Nothing special.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. No snow.
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RICK JAMES
No snow.

Christmas Experiences and Weather Talk

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RICK JAMES
Nope. I went to my sister's on Christmas Eve and hung out there for the night and Christmas day. I was moving snow piles. So nothing.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Very cool. Would you do the little row?
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RICK JAMES
How about you? How about you?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Uh, we had a 0.1 0 to one inch, which turned into three and a half, uh, on Christmas Eve and then finished that up.
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RICK JAMES
Do the weather guys miss that?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Had some, uh, I wouldn't call it a miss. I would call it an understatement. I mean, you know, it's just, they don't like being called weather guys.
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RICK JAMES
Oh.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
So show some respect, all right?
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RICK JAMES
and Sorry. Yes, true.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
but
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RICK JAMES
My bad.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
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RICK JAMES
Sorry, Rob, Nick, Mark.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
i I have checked with ah Snow Jobs Weather, which is a real thing. We are starting Snow Jobs Weather.
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RICK JAMES
yeah
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The SnowJobs Podcast
And what we have done, we've crunched the numbers.
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RICK JAMES
Yep.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
We've put it through the computer algorithms. Whatever the weather guys tell you this year, just double it and that's what you'll get.
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RICK JAMES
Oh, cool.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
It's worked out every single time out this year.
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RICK JAMES
Let's hit the rock says copy.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm snow jobs weather. We're calling it. Whatever they call for. Just add two. and You should be in the zone. But no, it was good. It was good. It was a ah wrong timing. Like couldn't have been worse because everybody knew. OK, it's Christmas Eve. Got to get our last second shopping done. They didn't count on the snow. But then when they heard it was coming, everybody was on the road at 5 a.m. Like everybody was out.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
it It was a pain in the ass, but we got it done. ah Had a bunch of emergency rescues too. Couple churches didn't ah didn't have their plow guy.
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RICK JAMES
i
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The SnowJobs Podcast
That's the first inclination right there. Their plow guy did not show up. Is there any way we can help? So we pushed off a couple churches for top dollar.
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RICK JAMES
You're trying to, trying to, trying to put a good word in for yourself, huh? Doing a little church work.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I ain't gonna help, dude. I'm still heading south.
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RICK JAMES
ah You're, you're saying.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm still heading south.
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RICK JAMES
Meet you there.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I won't know anybody if I go anywhere else.
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RICK JAMES
Oh, I think we'll know plenty. We'll know plenty of people there.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
No, I'm saying if I go north, I won't know anybody. All my friends will be down south with me.
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RICK JAMES
Hey, hi Adam, that'll be lonely.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah ah But yeah, it was good, man. We finished up ah Christmas Eve, hung out with the kids, ah waited for Santa, and yeah, it was a good good Christmas day.
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RICK JAMES
Were you naughty or nice?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
was it just oh They were apparently a lot better than I thought they were this year.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, that's good.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't know. Yeah I'm gonna have to talk to that big fat ass.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah. I must've been naughty.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
He was way too way too much stuff stuff down that chimney. I did not What You didn't get anything You didn't get an awesome hockey jersey All right
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RICK JAMES
I must've been naughty. I didn't get a damn thing. So no, no.
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RICK JAMES
Oh yeah, I did. Yeah. Thanks.
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RICK JAMES
Hang on the wall. You can't just hang on my water.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I can't even see it. Nope. Just threw it in the pile with the rest of the stuff.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
He doesn't want all these gifts he gets every day, but yeah, it was a snow jobs, hockey jersey, getting a lot of got getting a lot of asks for that.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah. Oh yeah. I guess I do take gifts. I do. I do take gifts.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Might have to put it in the shop.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah. Sure. Why not?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, it was good. Well, I'm glad you had a good holiday.
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RICK JAMES
I don't have to go to your house.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
What were you blowing piles or were you just moving them bucket wise?
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RICK JAMES
No, I just had to move. I just had a bucket, went around. I was bored. So I went out and did it. No big deal. So easy.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, it was a busy, uh, last week was a busy week. We had, we had the hundredth episode. We had two pushes Christmas week. Um, been busy in the Northeast, a lot of little tiny bullshit events.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
But, uh, yeah, you know, with it being Christmas, though, we didn't want to, we didn't really didn't want to line up a new guest for this week, being that it's always such a busy time with family obligations, crap like that. And the fact that, you know, apparently New York is now the the new snow belt we're getting, you know, pushes every freaking week.
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RICK JAMES
We should go storm Jason out there.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Uh, we should, right? Yeah, absolutely. Come watch me do like my little tiny properties that, uh, that kill it. That's not going to be real good on camera.
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RICK JAMES
It's always nice. It's always nice to see Holly Porsches do it too.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Hobby pushers, you know, we're people too. We're people too, hobby pushers. but You know, we don't have, ah I don't have time.
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RICK JAMES
and It's never going to get old.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
It's never going to get old.
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RICK JAMES
ring it all
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I mean, listen, you call it what you will. I just don't have the time to sit around spinning my brine all day

Episode Recap and Upcoming Guests

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The SnowJobs Podcast
long every day. You know, I don't have the time or the manpower to spin all that brine every day.
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RICK JAMES
It's That stuff is like, you don't even have to spray it.
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RICK JAMES
We just have to talk about it and it's going to melt it.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Agitate the brine. That is the most angry brine I've ever seen.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
It's constantly agitated.
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RICK JAMES
It's probably the most expensive too from all the electricity.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh man, but yeah, we didn't we didn't want to schedule a regular guest for a regular type of show So we put the call out to a couple of the boys who wanted to come on and talk some snow, see how everybody's winter's been going so far, see how the holidays were. So today, for your listening pleasure, we have Pat, i Osama Bin Laden salmon here. He's full beard. He looks but looks full grown full-blown terrorist right now. Full Grizzly Adams beard.
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RICK JAMES
We gotta get him a turban.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, we have a Patties here from DJ salmon and Northeast the icing solutions. We got Dustin Van Hale of total along with us and Maddie muscles young of young landscapes up in the capital district of New York.
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RICK JAMES
no ah that's like I need the flex, I need the flex bud.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
There if he's already flexing.
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RICK JAMES
i
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The SnowJobs Podcast
But they're going to be they're going to be with us today.
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RICK JAMES
ah
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The SnowJobs Podcast
We're going to kick it around. See ah how everybody's doing so far with the winner. See what's what's been going on. but But as always, guys,

Merchandise and Social Media Engagement

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The SnowJobs Podcast
before we get into it with them, let's hear from Top Gun and we'll be right back to do a quick review.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, we're back, guys. So last week, what do we do? We dropped episode 100, 100 of the main show. All right, we welcome back our very first guest from episode one, Mr. James Doyle of Innovative.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
That's always a great time talking to James. You're seeing what he's up to. He's always moving, always shaking, always doing business, making deals.
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RICK JAMES
they can be
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Mr. Doyle. Mr. Doyle, but we thank him for taking time out of his, uh, busy schedule there.
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RICK JAMES
do
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The SnowJobs Podcast
He's got newborn twins. So, uh, it's even busier now. Congratulations to them on that. And but he gave us the time, brought him back and he wants to be on episode. What was it? 500. He wants to, wants to also be the guest.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah. so
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The SnowJobs Podcast
He's booking that in advance 500.
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RICK JAMES
Yep.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
God from, from his lips to God's ears, 500. What would that be? We figured out the timeline. How far out?
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RICK JAMES
10 years? Oh, what was it?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
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RICK JAMES
20?
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RICK JAMES
I don't know.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
10 years, maybe. Yeah, it's possible.
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RICK JAMES
Oh.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I guess.
00:08:48
RICK JAMES
We're not doing math.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't know. We'll see. It'll be the Sean and Rob show 10 years from now, the salt zaddy and Robert.
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RICK JAMES
I'll be dead by then, probably.
00:08:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah yeah Listen, all kidding aside, those two could probably do their own podcast because of their personality differences and just hearing them argue. If you've ever sat on a group phone call with the two of them, Oh my God.
00:09:06
RICK JAMES
They would just play with... They would just fight with each other. Well, they never last long. Like Sean, Sean gets on for like, Sean gets on for like two minutes and he's disappears. Like, what the fuck?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
He's got no stamina.
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RICK JAMES
Where'd Sean? Yeah. He's out.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
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RICK JAMES
Oh, you're a king.
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RICK JAMES
Oh, there's a Brazilian, whatever, one whatever that place is called. Oh, there's one of those meat places.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
oh
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God, Brazil arrows.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah. where they
00:09:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man. But yeah, that was, uh, that was good. Episode 100 in the books. Thank you everybody for listening, getting us there. Uh, we really appreciate that. Uh, as we said in the last couple of weeks, get, if you haven't done so already, get your Eric Estes memorial shirts there on the plow right website, go to plow dash right.com. Click on the little button at the top of the page and, uh, get your shirt, get your memorial shirt to support Eric's kids college funds. Uh, let's see what else.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Uh, we got to do another Instagram live. People are asking for them. So we gotta, gotta make that happen.
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RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Maybe tomorrow night, sit on for a little bit. See if we get some of the boys. But yeah, guys, if you know, you're getting a storm out there, reach out in advance, let us know. And we'll see if we can get on, get an Instagram live going with you while you're out there getting it done.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Uh, snow jobs nation store open and stocked, ready for business. New

Guest Introductions and Holiday Work Challenges

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The SnowJobs Podcast
sweatshirts are in and shipping.
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RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Those things are bad ass. Everybody loves them. So nice job to Jeremy on that big pad on the back.
00:10:32
RICK JAMES
Yep. Yep, I might, uh, Yeah, I might put a, I don't know, I had a lot of people looking for some glacier and they might throw some of them up there too for fun.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Put glacier on there.
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RICK JAMES
Let's see if, yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Do it. Go ahead.
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RICK JAMES
Cause I had a lot of, a lot of interest for them.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Put it on there.
00:10:49
RICK JAMES
I'll get rid of some of these too.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Snow jobs take a 10% licensing fee or a snocking fee.
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RICK JAMES
So, well, yeah, I got, I made a mistake when I ordered some, so I'm gonna, I gotta, we'll talk about that later.
00:11:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay. oh Uh, as always, Jeremy gets very mad. If you don't like and subscribe, whatever platform you're listening to us on. So make sure you click the button, like and subscribe.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Uh, we've got anything else, Jay? Don't miss anything.
00:11:16
RICK JAMES
I don't think so. I think we're good.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
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RICK JAMES
Let's get this show started with the boys.
00:11:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sounds good. So let's hear from our partners real quick. We'll be right back with you guys and we'll get it going.
00:14:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, gang, we are back. So let's welcome in the boys, Pat, Matt, and Dustin. Guys, what's going on?
00:14:26
RICK JAMES
What's up guys?
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Patrick Salmon
What's going on guys?
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Matty Muscles
What's up?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
How are we? Everybody have a good Christmas?
00:14:32
Matty Muscles
Good?
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Patrick Salmon
Doing good. Yeah, it was good.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Good.
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Matty Muscles
Christmas was fun.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I can't get over this freaking beard.
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Patrick Salmon
Hey, listen, we've we've been busy saving the world one VSI unit at a time.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Can't get used to it. it Jeremy, did you get a picture of that? We got it. We're going to have to post a beard.
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RICK JAMES
I put it on there. I already put it on there. Yeah, they got to play a zoom in to see it But patty salmon with with this with the beard so like he's actually like one of the guys from the Lord of the Rings those little the little guys What do you call them but the homies
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The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
It looks glued on.
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Dustin
I think he looks more like an elf.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
but so
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah mean
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The SnowJobs Podcast
jesus
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Patrick Salmon
The little hobbits.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
but You've had quite He's had an eventful eventful year of looks. He had the neck brace for a while, now the giant beard.
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RICK JAMES
Oh yeah, you got a neck brace.
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Patrick Salmon
Yeah.
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RICK JAMES
He breaks his neck.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I love it.
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Patrick Salmon
2025 will be my year.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, there you go.
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RICK JAMES
matt
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, shit.
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RICK JAMES
Matty looks like he's going to fall asleep.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yup.
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Matty Muscles
Yeah, it's been been a long day around here.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man, so how is everybody's Christmas?
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Patrick Salmon
That was good.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Everybody have a good Christmas?
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Patrick Salmon
It was quiet. Nothing wrong with that for once.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
No? Did you guys get Snow ah Christmas Eve there, Pat, up there?
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Patrick Salmon
Um, no, we did not know, which I think is the first time in a couple of years we haven't.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
You didn't, you didn't get any, you didn't get anything out of that.
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Patrick Salmon
me
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I thought that was a pretty widespread couple inches.
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RICK JAMES
We didn't get
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Patrick Salmon
No, not on Christmas Eve.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Huh?
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Patrick Salmon
No.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Matt, did you get that up there? Christmas Eve?
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Matty Muscles
Yeah. Yeah, we did.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. All right. Cool. Dustin, any he pushes this year so far, are you guys doing all right?
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Dustin
Yeah, we've had a couple actually.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Good.
00:16:11
Dustin
Yeah, we got a half inch of rain yesterday, which is kind of weird, but yeah, we've had to just look to where at 8.7 inches so far this year.
00:16:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's good.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Wow. Cool.
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Patrick Salmon
I guess we did.
00:16:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
00:16:22
Patrick Salmon
That was Tuesday.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Good.
00:16:23
Patrick Salmon
Yeah. It's been a long week.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
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Patrick Salmon
We did go out Tuesday morning.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Uh, yeah. I was going to say he's arguing me.
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Patrick Salmon
Yeah. Yeah. We went out Tuesday morning.
00:16:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Pretty sure the whole Northeast got like a couple inches of snow.
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Patrick Salmon
Yeah. No, just a little salt event.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
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RICK JAMES
Matty,
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Patrick Salmon
Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
All

Snow Management Preferences and Equipment Issues

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RICK JAMES
you've been busy, haven't you?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
right. Yeah.
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Matty Muscles
yeah we've been really busy just this small stuff is it's keeping us busy which is which is fine but it's yeah it's a pain it's a pain in the butt you know it's
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Pain in the ass.
00:16:43
RICK JAMES
ah That's... That's us.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
but The resemblance is uncanny. Uh, man.
00:16:57
RICK JAMES
Yeah, it's been a... you've You've had a lot of little events. That's normally how we get here, but yeah, you you guys are getting them.
00:17:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
What's aggravating is it takes us the same amount of time to push off two inches as it does 12.
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Patrick Salmon
Yeah,
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Matty Muscles
It doesn't. Yeah, it really does.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
We finished in the same amount of time.
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Patrick Salmon
realistically.
00:17:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes, it does. Uh, it's such a pain in the balls. It's like, what are we doing?
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Matty Muscles
it's good I think it's good to get the guys like going through the motions and everything, and you're not under the pressure of having a massive amount of you know snow to move and things like that.
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RICK JAMES
hu
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Matty Muscles
But it also brings its own challenges too.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
See, I'm the opposite. I would rather have a banger the first time out, like drop a foot on me the first time out.
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RICK JAMES
It's good.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Cause the expectations go down. As long as you've got equipment, you know, you're not relying on trucks to do it. Cause if you fuck up with trucks and you're, you're eight inches in the hole already, then that's a little different, but I would rather have the foot.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Give me a foot right off the bat.
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RICK JAMES
I like the little ones that train all the guys, get them out, get a, get a routine going myself.
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Patrick Salmon
and Yeah, I agree with that.
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Matty Muscles
I agree.
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RICK JAMES
but
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't know.
00:17:57
Patrick Salmon
That was, that was good. We're usually good for starting off with, you know, five, six inch snow storm for the first one. We've had a lot of turnover this year.
00:18:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I like that. I like that. Give me the Superbowl first time out.
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Patrick Salmon
Just nice to get a couple of dry runs to get all the new guys into their new roles and everything.
00:18:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, throw them to the wolves right away. Sinker swim, dude.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it. It's big leagues right off the bat. Let's go. But I mean, we almost did.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
The first time out this year was that, ah, you know, you should have wet roads, maybe a spotty coating. What'd we get? Six inches, Matt, ah that first one in November.
00:18:31
Matty Muscles
We didn't, you actually had more down there.
00:18:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
We did. We, we had more.
00:18:34
Matty Muscles
we it was I mean, it was a significant, you know, I'd call it the significant snowstorm, you know, but I don't, want I'm not like you.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. We had a squall. It was a squall.
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Matty Muscles
I don't want a foot right off the bat. Like no, no thanks.
00:18:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
I want a foot when I know about it, but but I know it's going to be a foot. Don't tell me wet pavement and then drop a foot.
00:18:55
Matty Muscles
I will say that at least when they're calling for that much snow, people end up changing their plans and routines and things like that.
00:18:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's different.
00:19:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:19:03
Matty Muscles
So from a safety standpoint, it works out a lot nicer, but from an operational standpoint, it's not as fun.
00:19:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, that's, yeah. Well, that's, that's what I mean. Like the pressure is kind of off because most of the places, if they know they're getting a foot, they're not, they're not open. You know, they're going to close early. They're going to open late, you know, buys you a little time. If you're only getting two inches and it happens to fall at between five and seven AM, m you know, everything's still opening on time. And now you're, you're scrambling to get everything, at least, you know, a good shot on everything before. But that's, that I mean, that's just me to each his own.
00:19:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
We don't have, that was Christmas Eve.
00:19:38
Matty Muscles
this one we had This one we had the other day, i like Pat said, I don't even know what day it is anymore, but it came at like literally the worst freaking time. is Oh, it's just awful.
00:19:47
Patrick Salmon
Yeah, it was like at 8, 9 a.m., maybe even a little earlier, the commute.
00:19:49
Matty Muscles
It's just awful.
00:19:49
RICK JAMES
That'll
00:19:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, if you remember correctly.
00:19:53
RICK JAMES
suck.
00:19:53
Patrick Salmon
Everything this year has been the commute.
00:19:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, five days out, it was supposed to be a 1 a.m.
00:19:56
Matty Muscles
Yep.
00:19:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
to 5 a.m. event. Or it was even earlier than that, maybe midnight to four and then it was a one to five. And then by the time it got here, it was oh, it's going to start at four thirty five and then it's going to end at eight.
00:20:13
Matty Muscles
Yep.
00:20:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
And they did get the time right. It it was literally four a.m. to eight a.m. and in and out quick, but it left a little bit of a mess and everybody was on a damn road. Everybody was on out early.
00:20:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
All the 80 year old women, they had to get to the drug stores. They had to get their last minute stocking stuffers, whatever.
00:20:31
Patrick Salmon
Look at the CVS gift cards.
00:20:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh my good Lord, dude. The line at the post office was like at six 30 in the morning, there were people already in the parking lot of the post office just waiting for the doors to open a date.
00:20:36
RICK JAMES
you What?
00:20:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm like, what is going on? What is wrong with you people? um And people were not nice on Christmas Eve.
00:20:53
RICK JAMES
um
00:20:54
Patrick Salmon
No way.
00:20:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
I almost hit one guy's car with ah with a truck. i just I almost lost my shit.
00:20:58
RICK JAMES
on purpose,
00:20:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, yeah, I was willing to do it. I couldn't do it.
00:21:03
RICK JAMES
willing to do it.
00:21:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
well I was willing to do it. it was I was on the phone with my wife. Literally, I rolled down the conversation rolled down the window so he...
00:21:09
Matty Muscles
Well, that's the problem right there. that That's your problem.
00:21:12
Dustin
You're already aggravated.
00:21:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, she was she was calming me down because I was on the phone with her and I rolled down the window 10 feet away from this guy and I'm letting him hear the conversation because I'm talking about him.
00:21:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
and He looked over and I'm like, yeah, I'm talking about you. Yep. Keep, keep going. See what happens. Uh, I was, yeah, I was, it was not, I was done. It was like two o'clock for crying out loud and we're, we're, we're done. We're waiting on one guy to move his car. And he decided that he was just going to watch us and watch us. I sent all the guys home still sitting there. He won't move his car. And I know the second we leave, he was just waiting for us to leave so he could call and complain that we didn't clear his spot. Oh, I moved my car when the call went out and they never cleared it.
00:21:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, they left. So he knows who he is. I love a pile of snow behind his car next storm.
00:22:00
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:22:03
RICK JAMES
I'm guessing he doesn't listen to podcasts.
00:22:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, I'll, I'll drop a card.
00:22:06
Patrick Salmon
and
00:22:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
Let him.
00:22:08
Patrick Salmon
Accidental windrow.
00:22:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
but Yep. There's no accident about it.
00:22:11
RICK JAMES
the
00:22:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'll put a sign on it.
00:22:15
RICK JAMES
young boy
00:22:15
Patrick Salmon
Concrete.
00:22:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it. Good luck. But, uh, yeah, no, it was, it went well though. I mean, for. For what it was, it went really well. The guys all crushed it. We had a lot of breakages.
00:22:28
RICK JAMES
Hmm.
00:22:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
A lot of breakages.
00:22:29
RICK JAMES
You ever break a block yet? Yeah.
00:22:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, still no Arctic blocks broken.
00:22:30
RICK JAMES
We still haven't broken a block, huh?
00:22:33
Patrick Salmon
Unwet spreaders, rocks, everything.
00:22:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
um No, we broke two SSVs.
00:22:39
Patrick Salmon
Really beyond that belt.
00:22:39
RICK JAMES
Oh, in half.
00:22:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Broke two SSVs, yeah. um Well, yeah, the one one was a PTO belt, but it wasn't the belt. It somehow...
00:22:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't know if the tensioner let loose or what, but it it jumped the belt off the pulley. It's either a key, I haven't even looked at it yet. It's either a keyway or a or the tensioner, it let loose and stopped the broom in its tracks.
00:23:03
Patrick Salmon
Yeah.
00:23:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
And then the, ah one of the other ones had a, ah the spreader, the belly spreader. I personally think you got whacked jump in a curb. I think got whacked on the side plate.
00:23:15
Patrick Salmon
Right.
00:23:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
And that definitely threw a keyway on the sprocket and the chain popped off. so You know, not, no, nothing huge, but still stuff that doesn't normally happen.
00:23:25
Patrick Salmon
Jimmy will take care of you.
00:23:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
And we broke another throttle cable. That is the only thing I can say that we have now had multiples of with the SSV. We've now had multiple throttle cable breaks.
00:23:38
RICK JAMES
Hmm.
00:23:38
Matty Muscles
I think that's kind of more or less a known issue.
00:23:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. You have, you had it, Matt, you you got SSV.
00:23:44
Matty Muscles
Yup.
00:23:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
So have you had it happen? Does it happen at the top right below the throttle?
00:23:46
Matty Muscles
Yup.
00:23:48
Matty Muscles
Yeah, it's always right about in the same spot, and we keep one on the shelf.
00:23:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
ye Yep. Yep.
00:23:51
Matty Muscles
But it's not the way, though, those things are tucked in there.
00:23:53
Patrick Salmon
What is it, Corot?
00:23:54
Matty Muscles
Like, you're not you're not fixing that.
00:23:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
It ain't easy.
00:23:57
Matty Muscles
You're not fixing that in a storm. It's it's not it's not going to happen.
00:23:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah
00:24:02
Matty Muscles
I had an SSV go down. ah They really never really have any problems. This one was the um
00:24:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
they don't
00:24:12
Matty Muscles
the battery The battery was actually spun the wrong way, so the terminals were facing the the inside of the machine, and the positive lead rubbed against the frame ah rubbed through, and then obviously like fed you know fed power all the way through the frame and backfed through the ground and melted the melted the the cables, actually melted them onto the battery terminals.
00:24:35
Matty Muscles
So that was...
00:24:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Interesting.
00:24:38
Matty Muscles
that was shot and actually, um, when I had called you, we had, you and I had talked about it. I found out where those, where the hydraulic, the dump valves are on it. They're tucked in a, in a funky little tight spot, but anybody who runs them should know where those are.
00:24:54
Matty Muscles
Uh, just in case you run into an issue and you do need to push it, say off the
00:24:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I do now. Now that you brought it up, I said, ah
00:24:58
Matty Muscles
off off to Push it off to the side of a of a lot or push it up on a trailer or whatever You got to do to get it out of the way, but that's definitely something worth knowing about those machines um Yeah, yeah Yeah, we got four of them and that like just
00:25:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. I called Ed and of course Ed knew right where they were. I'm like, okay, at least one of us knows cause I don't know, but,
00:25:17
RICK JAMES
How many you have now, Matt? How many SSVs are you running?
00:25:28
Matty Muscles
Kind of like Steve says, like they're more or less bulletproof. you know I mean, guys will still figure out ways to break them, that's for sure.
00:25:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. The shroud on the broom. I don't know what they hit with it, but they're, the corners are all bent in, right?
00:25:41
Matty Muscles
I don't get that. i don't get I don't get that.
00:25:42
Patrick Salmon
Everything. They hit everything.
00:25:45
Matty Muscles
It makes no sense.
00:25:45
Patrick Salmon
Those shrouds have got our killers.
00:25:46
Matty Muscles
i i i said to like I'm like, why is this bent down into the fucking broom? like What did you hit?
00:25:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
Gutter killers.
00:25:51
RICK JAMES
Dude.
00:25:53
Matty Muscles
I, I swear, I swear I didn't hit anything. Well, it wasn't like that when it left.
00:25:56
RICK JAMES
All right, dude, you should walk through our sidewalk shop.
00:25:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
Dude.
00:26:01
Matty Muscles
Look, what the fuck?
00:26:01
RICK JAMES
Oh my God.
00:26:05
RICK JAMES
We got our tractors. The brooms are wider than the tractor and yet the fenders on the tractors are broken.

Fuel and Equipment Challenges

00:26:12
RICK JAMES
I'm like, what the fuck are you guys this close to us? Like shit, to the every fucking light, i every light's ripped off.
00:26:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
being wow
00:26:20
RICK JAMES
Fucking antennas are ripped off. I'm like, what are you guys getting? And there's no trees here. So they're not getting the trees. So I don't know. I was like, I don't know.
00:26:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God.
00:26:26
Patrick Salmon
The sidewalk equipment is brutal, man.
00:26:27
RICK JAMES
So when we get a new tractor, I just want to rip everything off right away and call it good. I mean, like, why not? Just fuck.
00:26:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Soon as it comes in the door, just take a bat to it.
00:26:32
RICK JAMES
so this might as Well, fuck, it's terrible.
00:26:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
I just wanted wanted to make it match.
00:26:38
RICK JAMES
I just.
00:26:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I will say this, though, thank God for those SSV brooms ah for this morning when we had the ice storm. Because man, does if you had a pre-treat down, even with that quarter inch or whatever it was, half an inch, Nick will tell you it wasn't that much.
00:26:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
It was only an eighth bullshit. It was more than that. um But man, does that broom just eat right through that ice in like two seconds. You actually got to watch out because it's throwing shrapnel.
00:27:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
If you're close to the building, it's it's winging that stuff right through the vinyl siding if you're not careful. ah But it's.
00:27:10
Patrick Salmon
And they clean so well, you don't even, well, I wouldn't, you don't have to put anything down behind it.
00:27:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, we still did. Cause I'll tell you, though it kept coming up from the ground. though It kept pulling the the rain, kept pulling the frost up.
00:27:20
Patrick Salmon
Yeah. The pavement was still cold.
00:27:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Our payments been, this is rare for us to have payment that we've been below freezing for what, two weeks, Matt, three weeks now.
00:27:29
Patrick Salmon
Oh, big time.
00:27:29
Matty Muscles
Yeah. Yeah. It's been super, it's been super, super cold here.
00:27:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. I mean, Mike, my kids had his ice out out in the front yard for weeks. Now he's been skating. So it's, uh, you know, that's unheard of. I think we got three skatable days all last year and he's been skating every day for two or three weeks now.
00:27:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
So it's been, uh, yeah, but it's gonna, I think it's going to cool down again, right?
00:27:47
Matty Muscles
I hope he enjoyed it.
00:27:47
Patrick Salmon
It's been cold early this year for sure.
00:27:48
Matty Muscles
Cause now we've got 50, you know, 50 plus degrees coming for the next couple of days.
00:27:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
I think, uh, right after the first, I think the second or third, the cold comes in and locks down again for another 10 days or so.
00:28:02
Matty Muscles
Yeah.
00:28:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
So it's, it's good. We've been, I mean, this is, this is winter. Like I remember it, you know, cold and snowy, just hasn't happened for awhile.
00:28:11
RICK JAMES
I think we're mid 40s today.
00:28:11
Dustin
you guys have been You guys have been colder in the Northeast. Yeah, as I say, Jeremy and I have been warmer than you have, Steve.
00:28:18
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:28:18
Dustin
What's 50 degrees here today?
00:28:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. We've been, we've been freaking cold. It was how, how warm 50.
00:28:23
Dustin
50.
00:28:24
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:28:24
Dustin
Yeah.
00:28:25
RICK JAMES
We had mid forties. They want, I get on what Thursday is supposed to drop out again to like singles, but.
00:28:28
Dustin
Yeah.
00:28:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. I mean, we started, what did we start this morning at 30? And I think it's in the mid forties now. I think it's, it's warming up now. At least I hope so.
00:28:38
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:28:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Cause I don't want to go out salting again.
00:28:39
Matty Muscles
We were colder than that up here this morning. It was darn cold this morning.
00:28:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Was it?
00:28:44
Matty Muscles
Oh, yeah.
00:28:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
I think 7 a.m. It was still 30 or 31. And then it, it progressive. I think by 9 a.m. we were at 33. I think we're above freezing by nine.
00:28:54
Matty Muscles
Earlier this week, i we usually don't have fuel issues, but my bulk tank gelled up.
00:28:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
And then it just, Really?
00:29:01
RICK JAMES
Really?
00:29:01
Matty Muscles
Yeah, well, what we thought what what we thought was a gel problem, but come to find out, the um it was it was just a filter.
00:29:02
RICK JAMES
Well.
00:29:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, yeah. yeah
00:29:10
Matty Muscles
that we were We had ah ah the wrong micron filter on it. um So we just had to figure it. We obviously like called our supplier, and they do millions you know millions of gallons.
00:29:21
Matty Muscles
And they were like, oh, you're the first call we've had. So they said change the filter. And that was, I mean, it's you know kind of cliche, but you learn something new every day.
00:29:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sir?
00:29:30
Matty Muscles
So it was kind of like, oh, never, never had this problem to to deal with before, but now we know what to, you know, what to run in regards to the filter.
00:29:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
And you're always...
00:29:39
Dustin
Are you guys running, blended fuel?
00:29:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
No.
00:29:42
Dustin
No, you never do, do you?
00:29:43
Matty Muscles
No, we run, yeah, we, we only have one, one tank. So we just run, uh, on-road we'll get winter mix, which is 75, 25. Um, and then we just, we can go back and, uh, when we record what it goes into, it it's either an off-road machine or an on-road, you know, truck. And then.
00:30:01
RICK JAMES
Hmm.
00:30:01
Matty Muscles
handle it that way. But I always, I wish, I wish, I mean, we used to run, we used to run clear karo and cut it and do all that stuff.
00:30:03
RICK JAMES
Hmm.
00:30:03
Dustin
There's a lot of guys that don't know that.
00:30:10
Matty Muscles
And, you know, we kind of got away from it because we never really got cold enough to have to worry about it.
00:30:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:30:18
RICK JAMES
What do you run, Dustin? You run in red or you run in?
00:30:21
Dustin
Now we're running all clear. We just keep track of it.
00:30:23
RICK JAMES
Oh.
00:30:24
Dustin
And then 70, 30, I don't know. We've been running since probably middle of October. We still have fuel issues.
00:30:30
RICK JAMES
I feel a shit.
00:30:30
Dustin
Our fuel is shit around here.
00:30:33
RICK JAMES
Well, we really don't have any. Well, hards sit small all our stuff.
00:30:37
Dustin
Well, not everybody can sit in 70 degrees. Jesus Christ.
00:30:39
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Yeah. Our stuff stuff sits inside. The fuel tank is outside though, so it's cold.
00:30:43
Dustin
We just run into a little water and the fuel every once in a while, but yeah.
00:30:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, we always get water in the field.
00:30:48
Dustin
A lot of guys don't understand the red and clear, like you can run clear, at least in Minnesota, you can run clear and then just keep track of it. And you can get a tax credit at the end of the year on all your off-road stuff.
00:30:58
Patrick Salmon
Yeah.
00:31:00
Dustin
I'm assuming that's the same other places, but I didn't know about that until like two years ago.
00:31:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:31:02
Patrick Salmon
Yeah, same way out here.
00:31:05
Dustin
It's a game changer.
00:31:08
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:31:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:31:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
You don't want to be running the red around here. State will stick you. They will stick that tank every time they stop you in the winter.
00:31:16
RICK JAMES
Well, they stick our tanks too, but I mean, we don't run, we don't run red in our pickups are but well and trucks, but obviously we run red in all the equipment.
00:31:17
Patrick Salmon
Really?
00:31:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh yeah.
00:31:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
10-4.
00:31:26
RICK JAMES
So.
00:31:27
Matty Muscles
You would think somebody would come up with like some.
00:31:27
Patrick Salmon
Even though it's going down the road, that's not a problem.
00:31:29
Matty Muscles
so
00:31:32
RICK JAMES
No, it's on site.
00:31:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's Fargo.
00:31:34
Matty Muscles
Yeah.
00:31:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's a dirt road. I mean, yeah they're running from cops on horseback, for Christ's sake.
00:31:37
RICK JAMES
We have dirt roads. We have dirt roads here, Patty. This is North Dakota. We got to herd buffaloes out of the way.
00:31:43
Patrick Salmon
in The interstates.
00:31:45
RICK JAMES
but
00:31:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
You just got to have more gas in the tank than the horse has energy to chase you because that's what they're riding after on.
00:31:50
Patrick Salmon
Yeah.
00:31:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
The posse is coming. Oh, what else do we got? Let's see. any yeah Anybody got any new equipment this year that they're putting to use?
00:32:03
Matty Muscles
I have two. Yeah, we picked up two 321 K 21s.
00:32:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
How do you like them?
00:32:09
RICK JAMES
You got any metal plus two, don't you?
00:32:11
Matty Muscles
Yeah, one's running a in 830 13 metal plus and one's running a 10 foot cage plow. um How do I like them? I like them.
00:32:21
Matty Muscles
But the, the notion that brand new machines don't give you problems is like, what the hell?
00:32:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
no No, they all have problems.
00:32:30
RICK JAMES
Oh, what problems you got with them?
00:32:31
Matty Muscles
What the hell? One of them came, it had, I think it had about 9.6 hours on it. Did this whole crazy like shut down mode BS.
00:32:44
Matty Muscles
I opened up the air filter. The air filter looked like it had come back from being in a dust storm. Like this is supposed to be a brand new machine. It was full of dust. So they cleared that. It had like eight codes. And then the other one had a parking brake switch
00:33:01
RICK JAMES
Oh, really?
00:33:02
Matty Muscles
parking brake switch or something that really that went bad.
00:33:06
RICK JAMES
We had our old three 21s. We had issues with parking with it, but that was years ago. I thought they got that thing care of where it would like lock up on you. That was, that was like, yeah, it was like six years ago or so.
00:33:15
Matty Muscles
And you couldn't move it?
00:33:18
RICK JAMES
and But I thought they got that thing.
00:33:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, yeah, on the 321, you need the parking brake engaged just to start it.
00:33:19
Matty Muscles
Yeah.
00:33:23
Matty Muscles
This one was
00:33:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
So if that sensor's bad, you can't even get the damn thing started.
00:33:23
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:33:26
Matty Muscles
This one was the opposite. It actually wouldn't engage the parking brake. So if you were on a slight incline, it would roll a little bit.
00:33:34
Matty Muscles
um And then what like just the I had an issue with the operator. He started the machine, walked away, and he forgot to like leave the the door handle like in the unlocked position with a key.
00:33:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, interesting.
00:33:50
Matty Muscles
So he closed the door.
00:33:51
RICK JAMES
locked it
00:33:52
RICK JAMES
Locked it She
00:33:52
Matty Muscles
Now the door's locked.
00:33:54
Matty Muscles
It's just like, oh my goodness.
00:33:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:33:57
Matty Muscles
Other than that, they...
00:33:57
RICK JAMES
just break the window break the window we get back in break the door
00:34:00
Matty Muscles
No, no. We did that issue too.
00:34:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh.
00:34:04
Matty Muscles
Yep.
00:34:05
RICK JAMES
That's an issue with those.
00:34:07
Matty Muscles
Now I'm thinking about it. These things have been brutal.
00:34:10
RICK JAMES
I mean, you gotta, you gotta watch those doors.
00:34:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
up
00:34:13
Matty Muscles
So Keith,
00:34:14
RICK JAMES
We went through, when we had our three 21s, we went through a few doors, but now they get that little strap you can put on so they don't overextend, but yeah.
00:34:20
Matty Muscles
Yeah, but when you don't realize that the strap isn't on there and the dealer doesn't make sure that it's on there and it catches wind, there's no frame. And wind, there's no frame, it's all glass.
00:34:29
RICK JAMES
No, there's no frame.
00:34:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nope.
00:34:32
Matty Muscles
It's all it why all glass.
00:34:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's glass and gasket.
00:34:34
RICK JAMES
Yeah, it's all the this terrible design.
00:34:35
Matty Muscles
ask you The f freaking, the door, the terrible design, the door literally rips back, you know, and shatters everywhere.
00:34:45
RICK JAMES
Did you shatter one already?
00:34:45
Matty Muscles
Millions, millions, millions, oh yeah, yeah, literally, yeah.
00:34:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, that's a win.
00:34:47
RICK JAMES
a Been there, done that.
00:34:50
Matty Muscles
Yeah, luckily it was, luckily it was here at our shop and it was my brother who did it. So, you know, it's like, I i ah can't be mad at him, but he was just like, I don't even know.
00:35:02
Matty Muscles
I don't even know.
00:35:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh man.
00:35:05
RICK JAMES
Yeah, we did doors, we did window.
00:35:05
Matty Muscles
So luckily it was only, it was only like, I think it was like 400 bucks or something for a new, for a new glass, but the actual, they are, but the the actual like handle thing
00:35:15
Dustin
They're easy to put in at least.
00:35:15
RICK JAMES
therere No, the door handle bullshit gets to be a bitch.
00:35:19
Dustin
Yeah, the door handle's hard.
00:35:20
Matty Muscles
the handle The handle with the steel and like the little grab thing, that is on national back order.
00:35:24
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:35:24
Dustin
I wonder
00:35:26
Matty Muscles
Can't get those.
00:35:26
Patrick Salmon
Of course it is.
00:35:27
Dustin
why.
00:35:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:35:29
RICK JAMES
Huh.
00:35:31
Matty Muscles
So these 321s actually suck.
00:35:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah
00:35:34
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:35:34
Patrick Salmon
yeah
00:35:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh man, that's why that's why I like to get mine with like 80 to 100 hours on them.
00:35:38
RICK JAMES
the
00:35:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
All the bugs are worked out, all the bad sensors are taken care of under warranty. That's the way to go. The new machines do think about how many freaking sensors are in um a 2024, 2025, all these new machines, how many different sensors and readings just, yeah I mean, shit.
00:35:57
Patrick Salmon
It's insane.
00:36:01
RICK JAMES
The...
00:36:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
The, the one mechanic was telling me voltage alone.
00:36:02
RICK JAMES
Some bullshit. Some bullshit.
00:36:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's all bullshit too. It is, but the, they they're all drawing voltage. If you have a low voltage startup, you're going to throw like 10 different codes. It's yeah, it's a it's a fucking shit show now with new machines with all the sensors.
00:36:18
Patrick Salmon
And they make the whole machine inoperable instead of just one portion of it.
00:36:18
RICK JAMES
a da
00:36:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes.
00:36:22
RICK JAMES
Right.
00:36:22
Matty Muscles
Right.
00:36:23
Patrick Salmon
You know, your windshield wipers, okay, now you can't start your engine.
00:36:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, because they're ensuring that you're paying for service. They're they're ensuring that you're paying the local dealer to come out and let him make his money to run to clear the codes and get that machine back into working order.
00:36:34
Patrick Salmon
Yeah.
00:36:37
RICK JAMES
Deaf is terrible.
00:36:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
So.
00:36:39
RICK JAMES
It's the dumbest thing out there. I mean, yeah, well.
00:36:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't work with that, so. 74 horse or bust, Bobby. That's it, man.
00:36:45
RICK JAMES
so I've had so much death issues this year. It's ridiculous.
00:36:49
Patrick Salmon
Oh, but it's saving the planet. One cardboard box and one gallon of jug at a time, buddy.
00:36:52
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:36:52
Dustin
One plastic jug at a time.
00:36:53
RICK JAMES
Fuck.
00:36:56
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:58
Patrick Salmon
It's the dumbest thing on earth.
00:36:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh
00:36:58
Dustin
The worst is when you go to fill it and then they're frozen, right? Like you need to go fill a machine and it's been sitting in the box of your pickup for a couple hours or whatever.
00:37:09
Dustin
And it's 20 below ah jus completely fucking fros them and Then I'm going to quit.
00:37:10
Patrick Salmon
Yeah.
00:37:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, exactly.
00:37:12
Patrick Salmon
Because it freezes at 12, I think, right?
00:37:15
Dustin
Yeah, something like that. And then going back to the shop to refill a different jug.
00:37:16
Patrick Salmon
Something like that.
00:37:18
Dustin
And that's what pisses me off. Like a deaf writer on the cab might pick up with me.
00:37:23
RICK JAMES
Yeah, corrosive shit. I had a deaf heater go on my, my pickup. I'm like, it hasn't even been cold yet this year here. When I had it, I just had it in the shop for that. I had every light on on my dash and they said it was all for a deaf heater. I'm like, that's bullshit. Cause that thing was not running very good the other night. It was like sputtering and spitting and they're like, Oh, it's just a deaf heater. I'm like.
00:37:46
RICK JAMES
I had my head of mechanic here put on the computer and it said like number two injector bunch of other shit. But yeah, that's all good on the deaf heater. that That doesn't seem legit to me, but whatever.
00:37:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
You got a diesel in that little truck?
00:38:00
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:38:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
I didn't know that. And it needs death. It's more than 74 horse.
00:38:04
RICK JAMES
Oh, Jesus.
00:38:06
Patrick Salmon
Yeah.
00:38:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah I couldn't resist.
00:38:10
RICK JAMES
Well, I'll follow you with my truck.
00:38:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah I have no doubt.
00:38:17
RICK JAMES
silver ball, I give the silver ball. I run for the money with my little princess.
00:38:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:38:21
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:38:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
The bullet, the bullet. How is the back blade with the bullet?
00:38:27
RICK JAMES
Good. He likes it.
00:38:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, good.
00:38:29
RICK JAMES
Yeah, it's, he, yeah, he really likes it. Honestly, he does this city streets when he works on or lives in a small town and he has a streets and stuff he can do in one pass, you know, just wing it off.
00:38:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's awesome. Good for him.
00:38:41
RICK JAMES
So.
00:38:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, so anybody else got anything new besides Matt's disastrous three 21s?
00:38:49
Dustin
We added a couple pieces, 938 XCMG. We gave that a

Snow Plow Equipment and Contracts

00:38:56
Dustin
try for this year. um
00:38:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
How's that so far?
00:38:59
RICK JAMES
How are you liking it?
00:39:00
Dustin
We love it, other than it's slower than shit going down the road.
00:39:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
Is it?
00:39:04
Dustin
Yeah, it's super underpowered. like You get a ramp to hit on going to the highway, and it falls flat on its face.
00:39:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Really?
00:39:12
Dustin
But fast.
00:39:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
What's the top speed?
00:39:15
Dustin
I want to say it does like 26, 28 on flat ground. It moves, but as soon as you hit any sort of incline, you can't get it out of first gear.
00:39:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hmm.
00:39:25
Dustin
You put it manual mode, and you try and upshift it, and it will not come out of first gear. If you start in third, it'll downshift right to first, and it stays in first.
00:39:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Interesting. Really?
00:39:34
RICK JAMES
In China delete it Yeah,
00:39:35
Dustin
So I think it's a pro. I had to lead right away, yeah. That five-year warranty went bye-bye.
00:39:41
RICK JAMES
it's made from China they don't they don't believe in that over there I
00:39:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah Good.
00:39:44
Dustin
But other than that, it's a good loader. um I mean, we haven't used it a ton, but yeah, it's been
00:39:48
RICK JAMES
Heard they push really well. I'm sorry to interrupt. but Yeah, like I know Luke pain Luke pain so they've had there isn't a dirt and stuff and they know they'll they'll hog so
00:39:51
Dustin
No.
00:39:57
Dustin
Yeah, it seems like it's got a lot of horsepower, but it's low-end horsepower, low torque.
00:40:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Low torque. Yeah.
00:40:02
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:40:03
Dustin
The they guy that rant runs it is used to a John Deere. And he'd say that's his complaint is transport speed. When he hits an incline, he's dragging his feet. But when it and he's got the blade down, he's pushing.
00:40:15
Dustin
He said it's impressive.
00:40:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice.
00:40:17
Dustin
It's impressive.
00:40:18
Matty Muscles
What are you running on it?
00:40:18
RICK JAMES
Did you put that big metal parts on it?
00:40:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Very cool.
00:40:19
Patrick Salmon
Did you...
00:40:21
Dustin
Yeah, we put a 12, 20.
00:40:22
Patrick Salmon
Did
00:40:25
Dustin
So it seems to work good.
00:40:27
Patrick Salmon
you get it with the snow tires on there?
00:40:28
RICK JAMES
Good.
00:40:29
Dustin
We did, yeah. Yeah, we haven't swapped them out right away.
00:40:31
Patrick Salmon
but and What brand are those again? They come in touch with an A.
00:40:35
Dustin
Alliance.
00:40:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
Alliance.
00:40:36
Dustin
Yep.
00:40:36
Patrick Salmon
Aligns? Okay, how are those?
00:40:37
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:40:39
Dustin
Awesome. Yeah, they're really, really good.
00:40:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
Are they cheaper than the Nokians?
00:40:43
Patrick Salmon
A lot.
00:40:44
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:40:45
Dustin
and
00:40:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:40:46
Dustin
It's 10 grand.
00:40:46
Patrick Salmon
That's why I always curious how they were.
00:40:47
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:40:49
RICK JAMES
10 grand for him. I can get no kids put on for eight something here.
00:40:53
Patrick Salmon
but
00:40:55
Dustin
really Really?
00:40:56
RICK JAMES
Yeah. And I can get double coins for like my dealer quoted me like 1400 attire for double coins.
00:41:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, is that the Rick James price or is that the everybody price?
00:41:06
Matty Muscles
No, I'm paying less than that for double coins.
00:41:07
RICK JAMES
now
00:41:07
Patrick Salmon
Ten is high for the those those Yeah better than nothing
00:41:09
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:41:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hmm.
00:41:11
Dustin
Yeah, maybe it is.
00:41:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
Interesting.
00:41:14
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:15
Dustin
They're worth every penny to me, I guess.
00:41:16
RICK JAMES
Oh. Yeah.
00:41:18
RICK JAMES
They're definitely.
00:41:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:41:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
I mean, you guys definitely need them.
00:41:19
Dustin
All right.
00:41:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Very cool.
00:41:24
Dustin
So we did that and then we.
00:41:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
And they're grippy. The alliances they're grippy.
00:41:27
Dustin
Yeah.
00:41:27
RICK JAMES
They're all, they're all the same.
00:41:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
00:41:28
RICK JAMES
I think pretty much as like the Nokian or Michelin or all, and they, the trap hunters, like say at least what I've seen, they're all like pretty much the same in sight.
00:41:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
The tread pattern. Yeah.
00:41:36
RICK JAMES
Just rubber compound, I think is a little different.
00:41:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Cool. What about you, Pat?
00:41:42
RICK JAMES
but a What you, you're doing a lot of rows, right?
00:41:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Anything new?
00:41:44
Patrick Salmon
I mean, you know, for once we really didn't add anything exciting from this year. We threw a couple of sprayers on, but that's really it.
00:41:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
00:41:54
Patrick Salmon
No new machines, no metal class.
00:41:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Very cool.
00:42:00
RICK JAMES
For the state or what?
00:42:02
Patrick Salmon
Yeah, actually, yeah. So that was one, uh, addition we made this year. So, uh, Max DOT does very little themselves. A lot of it is done by subcontractors. So we've always had combos on for them that combos just, you know, 10 plus yard spreader, 11 foot wing, 11 foot front plow. But, uh,
00:42:21
Patrick Salmon
The state's trying to get a little bit more in a liquid. So we have a 1600 gallon sprayer on for them this year, and we'll go out and and do some pre-treating for the road. So they got five tankers that run across the state of Massachusetts um doing the main lines on the highways.
00:42:38
Patrick Salmon
And we've started to do some of the, you know, ramps and then offshoots of of the state highways still. So we did 205 miles the last, the last hit out.
00:42:47
RICK JAMES
Thank you.
00:42:51
Patrick Salmon
So yeah, yeah, I could see an extra 70 hours.
00:42:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice. What are you running on those?
00:42:53
RICK JAMES
So you said there.
00:42:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Go ahead. Sorry.
00:42:57
Patrick Salmon
Oh, you're good.
00:42:57
RICK JAMES
Would you say that?
00:42:57
Patrick Salmon
Sorry, I'm still lagging behind you guys.
00:43:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, see, I told you.
00:43:02
Patrick Salmon
Oh, is that Steve?
00:43:02
RICK JAMES
What?
00:43:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, I was just, I told you you were going to be a problem child with the lag freaking Osama and his cave.
00:43:07
Patrick Salmon
His service in the cave is bad.
00:43:11
RICK JAMES
So when you say that, are they actually running tankers with spray bears on them?
00:43:16
Patrick Salmon
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They run 5,000 gallon tankers with spray bars on them with typically the Cirrus systems or I think it's Force America is the other ah popular brand.
00:43:18
RICK JAMES
Nice.
00:43:26
RICK JAMES
Oh, that's what I have force America. That's all I use for my desk control.
00:43:28
Patrick Salmon
Okay. Yeah. we I've never used those.
00:43:30
RICK JAMES
oh
00:43:32
Patrick Salmon
We've run a lot of Cirrus out this way, but yeah, I think Force America is the other one.
00:43:39
RICK JAMES
Yeah. I like to use my tankers more. It'd be kind of fun. We did it. We did a couple of couple of years ago. I did some in the spring to get rid of some Brian. Whereas I was shooting a bunch of lots. Oh, works good.
00:43:49
Patrick Salmon
Yeah, it does.
00:43:50
RICK JAMES
Obviously on a highway work a lot better.
00:43:53
Patrick Salmon
Yeah, ah and they're definitely trying to go in the direction of the liquids too.
00:43:54
RICK JAMES
So.
00:44:00
Patrick Salmon
I only say that because that was, you know, you get the typical bullshit 3%, 5% raise, whatever on all the other equipment throughout the year, but the liquids rates actually went up.
00:44:11
Patrick Salmon
Anything liquid related actually went up a decent amount this year. So you can definitely see them trying to make the push towards it.
00:44:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, they're pushing it. Nice. What ah what are you guys running blade wise on those trucks that are plowing for the state on the highways? You trying any different blades, cutting edges?
00:44:27
Patrick Salmon
Um, we were doing carbides. Um, we were doing, um, say, I think it's technically Sabri Sabre. I can never remember how to pronounce it.
00:44:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sabre, yep.
00:44:37
RICK JAMES
Savor.
00:44:37
Patrick Salmon
Sabre, um, Kuiper, um, Jomar. We were, we were running them and they were working out real nice for us. Obviously they're a bit more expensive, but when you start looking at the price of hardware to replace cutting edges and then the labor that it takes, um,
00:44:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:44:55
Patrick Salmon
They were working out real nice. The problem we started running into last year though, was the roads in Massachusetts are just straight up shit. And, um, you know, if you get it, yeah, but so, you you know, I see you spend three grand on a set of carbide edges and you catch a manhole cover and you lose the middle one and the others are still at 75, 80% life.
00:45:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. Welcome to the Northeast.
00:45:18
Patrick Salmon
Well, now you lost the whole set because it doesn't, it doesn't match.
00:45:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:45:23
Patrick Salmon
The set doesn't match anymore. It won't scrape correctly. So we started just going back to running double steel edges on the plows and we call it the redneck cotton edge, but we take.
00:45:35
Patrick Salmon
We take the old rubber pushers from other people who are still running, you know, rubber rubber snow pushers, like on the Protex and everything, and they'll sandwich a piece of rubber in between the two steel blades.
00:45:47
Patrick Salmon
And we've noticed that actually gets a decent amount of of life out of them, just because it's spreading the weight that much that much more.
00:45:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hmm.
00:45:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
Interesting.
00:45:56
RICK JAMES
oh
00:45:56
Patrick Salmon
still But yeah, we've kind of gone away from the carbide.
00:45:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
You doing that on the wing too?
00:46:01
Patrick Salmon
We've only on the front plow. We haven't done them on the wings yet.
00:46:04
RICK JAMES
Do you have underbellies too, or no?
00:46:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Very cool.
00:46:09
Patrick Salmon
No, you don't see a lot of those around here. There's a couple towns around us who who will run them, but you don't see much. you know I mean, it's it's different.
00:46:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't see him at all here.
00:46:18
RICK JAMES
Hmm. Yeah.
00:46:20
Patrick Salmon
ah yeah They go out when it's 36 degrees and raining and put the salt down. So just the underbelly, there's no hard pack.
00:46:26
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:46:29
Patrick Salmon
I just, I don't think they have the use for it out here.
00:46:30
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:46:31
Patrick Salmon
We don't see the cold, cold temperatures like you guys do.
00:46:35
RICK JAMES
I've seen, I've seen the trucks with the underbelly's when they hit something, it does a lot of damage.
00:46:40
Patrick Salmon
Oh, I bet.
00:46:41
RICK JAMES
It fucks a lot of shit up.
00:46:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
I bet.
00:46:43
Patrick Salmon
I bet, man.
00:46:44
RICK JAMES
Uh, Maddie, didn't you get a few couple of new metal pluses here, like a heavy duty one and stuff? Did she pick one of those up there?
00:46:52
Matty Muscles
Yeah, we got, we got a 1219 that's going on a loader. I'm still working on getting that set up. um I ran into a couple of issues with it just from it.

Operational Challenges and Forecast Rants

00:47:08
Matty Muscles
I got a good deal on it, but it hasn't been used in a while. So I'm still working out some of the bugs on it with the solenoids and whatnot. and um actually I've been going back and forth with Dan at storm quite a bit with trying to figure out this the valve on it um So I should hopefully have that figured out pretty soon. And then we've got our 830 13 which is brand new That's been great. That's on one of ah our cases and then my surely plows which are very similar to the to the metal pluses I had and
00:47:43
Matty Muscles
whole mess of issues with one of them with Wiring harness issues. So I ended up having to go through a couple a couple different avenues with that the The the tubes the spring tubes like that the solenoid coil goes over Sourcing those is like nearly impossible Uh, the wild boil valve, which is Italian made those spring tubes that like, they just, nobody really stocks them. And even Dan and I were going back and forth on like, where, you know, is there a place where we can source them and you got to go through all these different, like distrib, you know, you go to the main distributor, but they have other companies that they get them from and they're like, Oh yeah, no problem. Like, uh, I can have one to you in eight weeks. I'm like, Nope, that ain't going to work. So.
00:48:36
Matty Muscles
Just trying to work through some of the bugs on on finding that. And then obviously, like you know it's nice to have spare parts, like especially if something's hard to find. You want to have one available if you need it. So getting a couple of them, just getting that figured out has been a bit of a bear. But other than that, where we're we're having good luck with them so far.
00:49:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sounds like it.
00:49:05
Dustin
Matt, sounds like you got a shit show going on over there.
00:49:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
um Yeah, a Debbie Downer.
00:49:08
Matty Muscles
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:49:11
RICK JAMES
How about this?
00:49:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:49:12
Matty Muscles
It's, I mean, it's just like, you just end up, you burn, you burn time, you burn a lot of time, like trying to find and source parts and stuff.
00:49:12
RICK JAMES
great
00:49:20
Matty Muscles
It's just, it can be time consuming and stressful when you know you have, we've had, Steve, what have we had multiple, you know, basically multiple events for like the past two to three weeks here.
00:49:21
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:49:21
Patrick Salmon
Oh yeah.
00:49:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
Since the last week of November, once a week, at least.
00:49:33
Matty Muscles
yeah and it's just like Yeah, so it's just you haven't been able haven't been able to get any downtime and actually like recoup.
00:49:34
Patrick Salmon
It's been busy.
00:49:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:49:40
Matty Muscles
It's just like oh you know what you know putting out fires and fixing you know fixing some stuff here and there that you know this one small this one small issue on on a plow turned into it being down for two and a half weeks.
00:49:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:49:55
Matty Muscles
It's just like, what the heck? i mean We're lucky enough to be able to have spares and and make it through. um But like I've also been in the position before where we don't have spares for some stuff.
00:50:10
Matty Muscles
it just And you just gotta you got to roll with it.
00:50:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, figure it out. Plan B.
00:50:14
Matty Muscles
Yeah, yeah exactly. Figure it out.
00:50:18
RICK JAMES
So you haven't used that one call at all yet.
00:50:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Then, you know, you always make it happen.
00:50:22
Matty Muscles
Yeah, I mean, and I think a lot, you know, I think a lot of guys can be in my position. And one of the things that guys like us are really good at is pivoting and making things work and problem solving and things like that. But I like internalize it so much. And I'm just like, well, why didn't I think of that? Why don't I have that spare part on the shelf? Like, why, you know, why am I struggling to figure this out when I should have the, and you know, you should have the answer to that. And That's the kind of stuff that really kind of like keeps me up at night and just eats at me a little bit.
00:50:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, you can drive yourself crazy with that shit, though.
00:50:55
Matty Muscles
Yep. Yeah, you definitely can.
00:50:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
You just got to say, fuck it, literally use whatever is working at that moment and push the white shit off till it's black.
00:51:04
Matty Muscles
Yep.
00:51:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's I mean, bottom line, that's that's all we got to do. That's ah it.
00:51:08
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:51:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Just I know what you're talking about, too, because I get frustrated when it's I have it all played out in my head like a well orchestrated ballet. And when something starts off the wrong way, it just seems like you never get right again.
00:51:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
But it's like, shit, this shit always gets done. Just fucking keep pushing the shit till it's over. and That's why like all these guys that call the weather guys and give them a fucking heart like we break their balls But like there are guys out there that are seriously like looking to burn weather guys at the stake when they show you you told us we were getting 1.5 inches and we got three like who gives a fuck
00:51:44
Patrick Salmon
Should have been ready.
00:51:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
Man the fuck up.
00:51:46
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:51:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
They told you you were getting snow. Just keep pushing it until it's over.
00:51:49
RICK JAMES
Get out there and push it.
00:51:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
You're already out.
00:51:52
RICK JAMES
It's not hard.
00:51:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, like, well, they got the timing right, but they didn't get the total right. We got three inches instead of an inch and a half. I had an argument with a guy the other day. I'm like, are you a fucking professional or not? You're going to let the weather guys tell you how to run your company.
00:52:06
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:52:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like fucking they told you when it was coming. They told you what the temperature was going to be. And they told you you were getting snow. They got the total off a little bit. Big fucking deal. Like seriously, guys, guys get too fucking bitchy with that shit.
00:52:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's starting to drive me a little crazy.
00:52:22
Dustin
Now you're sticking up for the weather, guys.
00:52:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Not really. Cause I will still be the first one to break their balls, but at the same time, like, you know, that's a plow guy.
00:52:26
Matty Muscles
and
00:52:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like there are plow guys and then there are snow professionals. That's a plow guy. When you're calling the weather guy bitch, and that you call for one and a half inches and we got three and we're pissed off about it.
00:52:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, are you fucking kidding me?
00:52:44
RICK JAMES
Oh, I hate that there.
00:52:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
Be a professional.
00:52:46
Matty Muscles
Oh,
00:52:48
RICK JAMES
like the weather guys. I don't, you know, I don't understand.
00:52:51
Matty Muscles
no.
00:52:51
RICK JAMES
We talked about this over and over, but about when they put down salting event or like, how do you know it's a salt event?
00:52:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's wrong. I agree.
00:52:57
RICK JAMES
Don't just say it's just tell me the moisture is coming. Don't tell me it's just going to be salty. We push that fucking quarter inches. No. I mean, I mean, who just tell me it's going to the moisture.
00:53:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
100%.
00:53:07
RICK JAMES
It's all I care about. I don't need you to tell me if I'm going to salt. I mean, I thought I'm going to listen to it. I'm just saying some of these guys get all, but hurt that you said it was going to be salting. No, I have to push it. It was like, who fucking cares?
00:53:15
Patrick Salmon
Right.
00:53:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
I have had this discussion, Jeremy, you know I've had this discussion with with powers that be, and I've told them the biggest thing you can do to help yourself is stop putting out the salt versus plow bullshit because yeah everybody has a different fucking thing in their company, in their mind of what they're going to salt versus what they're going to plow.
00:53:17
RICK JAMES
Like you said,
00:53:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Just give them the amount you think is coming. Don't tell them what they're gonna be doing because then it's one more area that they can jump on you and say, yo, you were wrong. You said we were getting two inches and we were just gonna have to salt it.
00:53:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Who the fuck is salting two inches? Are you serious? But there are guys out there that do that shit, right?
00:53:53
Patrick Salmon
Funny people up around here.
00:53:55
RICK JAMES
We are with our special Brian.
00:53:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, the hot, well, the agitated, the ultra angry Brian.
00:53:58
Patrick Salmon
The agitated Brian, it's angry man.
00:54:01
RICK JAMES
ah The anger.
00:54:03
Patrick Salmon
Watch out, watch out.
00:54:04
RICK JAMES
The flamethrower. It's like a flamethrower coming out.
00:54:07
Patrick Salmon
yeah
00:54:09
RICK JAMES
Fire coming out of nozzles.
00:54:12
RICK JAMES
It's called gasoline.
00:54:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's spraying gasoline? No, no, it's Brian.
00:54:14
RICK JAMES
Gasoline.
00:54:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's angry Brian. Oh shit.
00:54:17
RICK JAMES
a
00:54:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
man But yeah, I've, I've told them that I've, I've told them that multiple times, like drop the whole salt versus plow thing. Just tell you what the timing is, what the temperature is going to be, what the payment temp is going to be, and how much snow you think is coming.
00:54:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Leave everything else to the individual. It just, yeah, I wish they would stop doing that because it just opens them up to more fucking rounds being fired at them.
00:54:37
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:54:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
So, and then you have conversations like this. Yeah.
00:54:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
I can't hear that enough, man.
00:54:52
RICK JAMES
I love that one.
00:54:53
RICK JAMES
I love that one.
00:54:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
Excuse me, doctor.
00:54:56
RICK JAMES
ah
00:54:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, shit, boys. ah What else we got? Anybody have any major breakages? Besides Matt, we know what Matt broke everything, basically. ah Anybody else have any breakages?
00:55:07
Matty Muscles
It's not that bad. It's not that bad.
00:55:09
RICK JAMES
That sounds bad.
00:55:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah that
00:55:10
Dustin
It sounds bad.
00:55:10
Matty Muscles
Not that bad.
00:55:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Now yeah, now it's not that bad God it it sounded like a snow but snow guy version of a country song it was ah Broke my door broke That's it almost a new year
00:55:14
Dustin
My Ventrac's broke.
00:55:14
RICK JAMES
ah
00:55:15
Dustin
My case is broke. My MetaPlus is broke.
00:55:18
RICK JAMES
and
00:55:21
Matty Muscles
Easy, easy fixes.
00:55:21
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:55:22
Matty Muscles
and Easy fixes, right?
00:55:24
RICK JAMES
Hey, he's he's thinking positive. You got to give it to him. Not that bad.
00:55:30
Matty Muscles
I can't wait for 2025. Let me put it that way.
00:55:34
RICK JAMES
How's AMI working for you, Dustin?
00:55:37
Dustin
Still going. Still going strong.
00:55:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Still going.
00:55:39
RICK JAMES
I was looking for my t-shirt. I was looking for it. I was gonna put it on. but I can't find it.
00:55:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
You're out of your mind!
00:55:42
RICK JAMES
I know it's in here somewhere.
00:55:44
Dustin
You can make fun of it all you want, but still making money.
00:55:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it.
00:55:47
RICK JAMES
Hey, I will definitely make fun of it.
00:55:48
Dustin
Still making money.
00:55:49
RICK JAMES
I'll definitely make fun.
00:55:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh my god, that was a great episode. so was I think I've laughed harder at that than any of the other ones. That was great, just to listen to t YouTube two go at it.
00:55:59
RICK JAMES
It's a true story.
00:56:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh shit.
00:56:03
RICK JAMES
maybe i'll wear Maybe I'll wear it Monday when I come down the Mankato.
00:56:05
Dustin
There you go. There you go. I'll take your picture next to it.
00:56:09
RICK JAMES
Okay.
00:56:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
what What are you doing, Jeremy?
00:56:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
What are you doing in Mankato?
00:56:12
RICK JAMES
I got to pick a few more plows up.
00:56:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
In Mankato?
00:56:17
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:56:18
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:56:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, there's an Arctic dealer there that I don't know about.
00:56:21
RICK JAMES
Yeah. I got a marketplace by a couple, couple more artists and then, uh, I got, uh, I got, yeah.
00:56:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, okay. All right, good.
00:56:27
RICK JAMES
So, yeah.
00:56:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, cool. What else, boys? Anything else we got to talk about? what ah Anybody got big plans for 2025? It's going to be the new year. This is dropping after the new year.
00:56:40
Dustin
New Year, same me.
00:56:40
RICK JAMES
Is it? No, it's not.
00:56:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
I know it's dropping. This will be the last one to drop before the new year.
00:56:44
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:56:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, any resolutions for 2025?
00:56:47
RICK JAMES
New year.
00:56:51
RICK JAMES
Pat's gonna shave.
00:56:51
Patrick Salmon
Shorter beard.
00:56:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
I, I fucking hope so.
00:56:52
Patrick Salmon
Yeah. ah shame
00:56:54
Dustin
Can we start it?
00:56:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Make sure you shave before we see it storks, dude.
00:56:56
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:56:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
They're not going to let you in. You're like patting you down for an S vest.
00:57:00
Patrick Salmon
I'm just going to throw the neck brace back on with the beard.
00:57:02
RICK JAMES
As long as you don't, as long as he's not the fly, as long as he's not the fly anywhere, you might be okay.
00:57:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah ah
00:57:09
Patrick Salmon
you Do not fly a little.
00:57:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh my good Lord. Fucking Pat Kaczynski, the Unabomber lives.
00:57:13
Patrick Salmon
Listen, we've been busy, man. It's a good thing we've been busy.
00:57:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, good.
00:57:19
Patrick Salmon
Been busy.
00:57:19
RICK JAMES
Yeah. What do you say it takes you 10 hours to go pretreat?
00:57:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's good, man.
00:57:24
RICK JAMES
Didn't you say that on our Snapchat?
00:57:26
Patrick Salmon
Yeah, they try to make it a 10 and a half hour, 10, 10 and a half hour hit for the pre-treat. So like, what's today, Saturday? Yeah. So, you know, we went in Thursday there, did a pre-treat, worked. And then last night we pre-treated our private stuff and then went in today. So it's definitely good to get the extra hours. Definitely getting busy, you know.
00:57:51
RICK JAMES
No, are you, where do you you have to come back?
00:57:52
Patrick Salmon
um But hey, the truck's just sitting no matter what.
00:57:54
RICK JAMES
your You have to come back to your shop and fill, or do you have sites out there?
00:57:54
Patrick Salmon
so
00:57:59
RICK JAMES
You fill up out and about or what?
00:58:00
Patrick Salmon
No, they um they have tanks and in the depots out there. So like that 205 miles that we did, we stopped along three different depots and were able to to refill across three different depots.
00:58:06
RICK JAMES
like
00:58:13
Patrick Salmon
Each of them has a 5,000 gallon tank. And they're running an 85-15 blend with magnesium is what they're running.
00:58:17
RICK JAMES
Gotcha.
00:58:24
Patrick Salmon
So.
00:58:26
RICK JAMES
dustin you're just using so you're just doing here're
00:58:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
the local
00:58:26
Matty Muscles
Pat, do they have pat do they change do they change that, do they change that blend up or is that standard across the board?
00:58:33
Patrick Salmon
No, it's just standard across the board is is my understanding. I'd originally been told and thought it was salt brine, and then I noticed it wasn't drying. um And then we when we inquired a little bit further, we found out it was at 85.15.
00:58:50
Patrick Salmon
So the mag is what makes it it look wet and stay wet.
00:58:50
RICK JAMES
Dustin, you're just using the slide. You're just doing...
00:58:55
RICK JAMES
So you think they need 85 15 out there? Didn't you say like a 95 five five it works really good out there? You guys were talking with four show and that works or what?
00:59:03
Patrick Salmon
um
00:59:06
Patrick Salmon
I mean, honestly, if we're talking, we'll pretreat, right? And then you it right before right before it starts to snow, they just, OK, go ahead at 480.
00:59:11
RICK JAMES
but
00:59:15
RICK JAMES
That's kind of like a guy I was talking to.
00:59:17
Patrick Salmon
I don't really think it's necessary, to be honest, but I'll go out and do it.
00:59:26
RICK JAMES
The guy is talking to here there and I, it was, we were getting some misty stuff, you know, it was kind of freezing fog and he's out brining and he's like, so well I don't want to go on the morning.
00:59:36
RICK JAMES
I'm going to put extra, extra down. I'm like, how do you put extra Brian down? It's going to run off. You, it's not going to stack up on top of each other.
00:59:43
Patrick Salmon
Yeah, you can only quit so much, right?
00:59:44
RICK JAMES
You you you can't put extra Brian on. I'm like, how dumb are you? Like, God, I won't name name.
00:59:50
Patrick Salmon
Yeah, it's definitely worth it. I just don't think you see the results because we just go and hit it immediately right before it starts anyway. so But do what you're told, right?
01:00:01
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:00:03
RICK JAMES
Dustin, you're not doing, you you're just doing sidewalks, right, Dustin?
01:00:04
Patrick Salmon
Keep them happy.
01:00:07
Dustin
Yeah, with Brian, we're just doing sidewalks still.
01:00:09
RICK JAMES
You got any plans of doing parking lots?
01:00:13
Dustin
Yeah, we'll get there. We'll get there. This year wouldn't be a good year for it, but um just timing didn't work out with a couple of things we had going on, but we'll get there. Honestly, the first couple of storms, it definitely underperformed for us, Brian did.
01:00:29
Dustin
But this last couple of storms, it really performed really well. So the way I look at it,
01:00:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
What was the difference?
01:00:35
Dustin
Uh, moisture content in the snow. Um, honestly, we had some freezing rain, um, that I felt like it underperformed on. Um, but it's just, uh, 95 five is what we're running right now.
01:00:47
RICK JAMES
What's the blend?
01:00:53
Dustin
Um,
01:00:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
So you think if on those freezing rain or those higher moisture snows, you think if you bumped it up to like an 80 20, it would have been better performance.
01:01:02
Dustin
I would hope so. Um, I

Winter Maintenance Timing and Brine Application

01:01:04
Dustin
think it's all about.
01:01:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, you don't think so guys.
01:01:05
Dustin
I think it's all about the climbing and the timing.
01:01:06
RICK JAMES
I don't think so.
01:01:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm getting shaken heads.
01:01:07
Patrick Salmon
We're in 90-10.
01:01:09
Dustin
It's so big on timing.
01:01:09
RICK JAMES
Night.
01:01:11
Dustin
Correct me if I'm wrong, Pat. You know way more about it than I do. But I'm seeing timing is a huge thing. Like this morning, perfect instance. We got a half inch of rain. And it was going to be sun popped out.
01:01:24
Dustin
And it just got icy for like an hour and a half. We went and brined some sidewalks. Perfect. worked out awesome. um But then we had some, we had a little glaze of snow a couple weeks ago.
01:01:35
Dustin
And then it, we had like a little wall. So we went out and actually broomed everything, brined everything. And then we got a freezing rain on top of it. And everything that we brined, that got freezing rain on top, you could not tell a difference.
01:01:47
Dustin
Didn't even look like we were there. Looks great and drilled by, but as soon as you stepped on it, it was super icy.
01:01:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hmm.
01:01:54
Dustin
And it just, it was a timing thing.
01:01:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Interesting.
01:01:57
Dustin
It's a tool in the toolbox.
01:01:58
Patrick Salmon
Yeah, big learning curve, for sure.
01:01:58
Dustin
I
01:02:01
Dustin
Definitely learning a little bit more about brine every day that we use it. Um, but yeah.
01:02:07
Patrick Salmon
I tell everybody that. It is not the is not the easiest thing. yeah know we I mean, we've been if we've only been doing it for three years, which feels like a long time, but you're still learning every day.
01:02:19
Patrick Salmon
you know and timings Timing's a very big thing, like you said. You know you want to try and time okay when it's It changes from rain to the freezing rain. So you get the least amount of ah possible dilution versus, you know, before you just, yeah, yeah, I'll go sling some, sling some granular and it just stays there.
01:02:36
Patrick Salmon
It just sits there.
01:02:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Amen.
01:02:38
RICK JAMES
right ah No, know.
01:02:39
Patrick Salmon
You know, you got to remember you're putting down 70% less.
01:02:39
Dustin
My guys is actually.
01:02:41
Patrick Salmon
So.
01:02:43
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Putsie Putsie's got into a big time this year. He's, he's loving it. He's using that stuff from Todd turbo, Todd melt, you know, that turbo, turbo and he's terrible.
01:02:50
Patrick Salmon
Turbo melt. Yeah.
01:02:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Turbo Todd.
01:02:53
Patrick Salmon
Turbo tilt.
01:02:53
RICK JAMES
Todd he's, he's, is he's, that's what we call him.
01:02:54
Patrick Salmon
I like that.
01:02:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Turbo Todd.
01:02:56
RICK JAMES
That's what he is. My phone. Uh, but, uh, yeah, he's, uh, Pat's about into and his lots look phenomenal and and it's working great for him. I know he wants to buy, get a few more, uh,
01:03:08
RICK JAMES
Maybe by next year, I'm sure you have more set up, but yeah, it's been working great.
01:03:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
how
01:03:11
RICK JAMES
And you guys in that Snapchat group, you guys have seen what, how cold it was at one time and how, what his lots looked like.
01:03:16
Patrick Salmon
Yeah.
01:03:17
RICK JAMES
It was crazy. So while you were pretty impressed.
01:03:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Brian is angry. Is your Brian or no? Not as angry.
01:03:21
RICK JAMES
No, he no, I was not, I was angry. So I think he does it right.
01:03:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
01:03:25
Dustin
The guys actually thought we we so we switched different brine from the first couple of snows to, you know, this last one.
01:03:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's all about the anger content.
01:03:33
Dustin
Like, no, it's the same brine. It's just, it's different weather conditions, different timing.
01:03:37
Patrick Salmon
Right.
01:03:37
Dustin
You know, if the sun pokes out a little bit, you know, it's just, yeah, there's a lot of little factors into it. But I think temperature honestly is probably the smallest one in my mind is the actual air temperature, which kind of is contradicting what I thought originally.
01:03:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hmm.
01:03:53
Dustin
I mean, we sprayed it last year when it was five below and it worked better than it did, you know, a month ago when it was 20 degrees, just cause the moisture content of the snow and what was going on.
01:04:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hmm.
01:04:03
Dustin
so
01:04:03
Patrick Salmon
It's definitely, the colder it is, the better it works.
01:04:06
Patrick Salmon
That's my opinion, at least.
01:04:08
Dustin
What seems it, that seems the opposite.
01:04:09
Patrick Salmon
um
01:04:10
Dustin
What you'd think like you're spraying a liquid on the sidewalk. You're like, Oh shit, if it's 20 degrees, it's going to work even better.
01:04:12
Patrick Salmon
Right.
01:04:15
Dustin
Right. That's, that's the way I thought anyway.
01:04:16
Patrick Salmon
no Now we're completely opposite than when than when we were graying the other, you know? and And we kind of went backwards, right? Not backwards, but we just went straight from white salt to to liquids.
01:04:28
Patrick Salmon
They've never even used treated salt. So we just skipped that whole phase. But with the granular, you would always hate that 10 degree snowfall. Now, yeah, I want it to be 10 degrees over 28 because it just works so much better.
01:04:44
Dustin
Right.
01:04:45
Patrick Salmon
You can put down less of it and just vaporize it behind the truck.
01:04:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
Matty, is New York state doing any brining that you've seen?
01:04:53
Matty Muscles
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
01:04:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, they are up there.
01:04:56
Matty Muscles
I mean, you see it on the state highways for sure. um My local municipality is doing more this year. um I've been kind of like in talks with them about how they're going about it.
01:05:12
Matty Muscles
I'd like to get involved with them a little bit more just based off of my minimal knowledge.
01:05:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hmm.
01:05:18
Matty Muscles
And also having contacts here with like Pat and Jordan and all these other guys, you know, everybody who has way more experience, I think that they could do it a lot more efficiently.
01:05:30
Matty Muscles
They're just using way too hot, like way too hot. They're actually not even they're using straight product, which is insane.
01:05:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
I haven't seen the state, I haven't seen the state brining at all this year yet.
01:05:38
RICK JAMES
Oh well.
01:05:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
I mean, there's no telltale snail trails or anything.
01:05:43
Matty Muscles
this you no the state The state up here, they definitely do. um I just haven't haven't seen it as much. So I don't know what that's about.
01:05:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. The throughway, the whole, the whole ride up the throughway to you yesterday was all, it was just green from the clear lane. They were just dumping the ball shoulders were glowing green.
01:05:59
Matty Muscles
Yeah.
01:06:01
RICK JAMES
Hmm.
01:06:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
So I didn't, I didn't see any Brian just clear lane.
01:06:08
Matty Muscles
I don't see them using it. um I see them brining for like pre-treat.
01:06:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I haven't seen any of the snail trails. Usually you see it, but I haven't seen them.
01:06:18
Matty Muscles
I know they'll treat at the spinner, which is again what municipalities will do too, but I haven't seen it as much as I thought I would.
01:06:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
10, four.
01:06:29
Matty Muscles
I think around here, I think it has to come to you know legislation to really push the issue um in the in the public and the private sector to see it take off more because of such like variations in the moisture content that we see.
01:06:29
RICK JAMES
Dustin.
01:06:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sure.
01:06:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
That we do.
01:06:48
RICK JAMES
Dustin, put that.
01:06:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
well let's Oh, hit...
01:06:50
Patrick Salmon
One thing that I've, I was just, one thing I've seen that was kind of interesting so far this year is a lot of contractors come in and saying, Hey, my clients are requesting liquids, or this is a liquids only site.
01:06:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, go ahead. Go ahead, Pat. Finish it up.
01:07:06
Patrick Salmon
um I've seen a lot more of that ah over, you know, the DOT or the municipalities doing it.
01:07:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
Another nap.
01:07:13
Patrick Salmon
A lot of people are coming and saying, Hey, I have this contract that requires with liquids. How do I get into it? Specifically in Rhode Island, Connecticut, which I thought was kind of interesting. I would have thought it'd be the northern states, but just an observation I made there.
01:07:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
I have not heard that here.
01:07:29
RICK JAMES
Isn't doesn't I've heard I've heard this before I think we talked about a little bit before but Dustin doesn't Minnesota has something some incentives for you to get into like weren't they wasn't Jordan talking about that or something to get into liquid
01:07:40
Dustin
Yeah.
01:07:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
i think I think so.
01:07:42
Dustin
Yeah, the state of Minnesota actually just came across it again the other day. It's a 0% loan up to, don't quote me, $75,000, I think, that they'll kick in um to get into a brine setup.
01:07:59
Dustin
I don't know exactly logistics of it. or But basically, it that gets you a starter pack, right? It's $75,000.
01:08:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Mm-hmm.
01:08:04
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:08:04
Dustin
Gets you a middle of the road brine maker, a couple sprayers.
01:08:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
A brine buddy in a 300.
01:08:09
Dustin
Yeah.
01:08:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's about it.
01:08:10
Dustin
Good luck.
01:08:11
RICK JAMES
but Jesus, Daddy.
01:08:13
Dustin
and Yeah.
01:08:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
01:08:15
Patrick Salmon
No, that doesn't include shipping, I can tell you that.
01:08:15
Dustin
Yeah. Yeah.
01:08:18
RICK JAMES
yeah
01:08:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
That doesn't include your storage tanks either.
01:08:19
Matty Muscles
but
01:08:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
Shit. ah ah It's a big CapEx, man.
01:08:22
RICK JAMES
ah oh
01:08:25
Patrick Salmon
ah
01:08:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
It really is.
01:08:29
Dustin
ye
01:08:29
Patrick Salmon
It's not cheap, man.
01:08:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, it's not cheap.
01:08:30
Patrick Salmon
it's It's double the cost of granular equipment from what I saw, and I tell everybody that up front. I mean, it pays off, and the ROIs have been very quick, at least for us.
01:08:40
Patrick Salmon
You know, you get that.
01:08:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, I'm sure.
01:08:41
Patrick Salmon
But it is it is not cheap to get into.
01:08:41
Matty Muscles
no, no.
01:08:43
Patrick Salmon
i've never deny that.
01:08:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, it's definitely not. I mean, that's it's just that's just straight dollars and cents. It is definitely expensive. It's a big capex upfront. But like you said, the ah ROI is there. If you're treating enough acreage, the ah ah ROI is definitely there.
01:08:56
Patrick Salmon
Big time.
01:08:59
Dustin
Yeah.
01:08:59
Patrick Salmon
And the more you use it, yeah, like you said, treating enough acreage.
01:09:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
But you got to have, I mean, like and all of you guys have said, it's a learning curve. It's trial and error. It's all, I don't have the fucking time for that. Honestly, like I don't have the time or the patience.
01:09:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
I am maxed out.
01:09:13
Dustin
I was going to say patience. I think it's key for you.
01:09:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I don't. I am maxed out with time and patience. So I, I just don't, I know it would work. I know I could make it work. I just at this stage of the game, that's a cap X I'm not going to make.
01:09:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
And I just don't have the patience to just toy around with it.
01:09:30
Dustin
So it's through the MPCA.
01:09:31
RICK JAMES
because
01:09:31
Dustin
I just looked it up at 0% up to $75,000. So it's a 0% loan in for up to seven years.
01:09:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice.
01:09:39
Patrick Salmon
And this is for contractors.
01:09:40
Dustin
but Yes, correct. So um ah I would assume so, yeah.
01:09:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
Do you have to be from Minnesota?
01:09:47
RICK JAMES
yeah I would assume so.
01:09:47
Patrick Salmon
I'm going to get a new mailing address here.
01:09:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
but yeah That's it.
01:09:52
Dustin
Yeah.
01:09:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Exactly. Get a PO box.
01:09:52
RICK JAMES
The O box.
01:09:53
Patrick Salmon
I have a PO box.
01:09:56
Dustin
The MPCA is a Minnesota pollution control agency.
01:09:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
There we go. We'll get a PO box.
01:10:00
Dustin
So, yeah.
01:10:02
Patrick Salmon
You're starting to slowly see that creep out a little bit. Not to that extent, but you know, New Hampshire does green snow pros. I'm not from New Hampshire, so I don't know a ton about it.
01:10:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Mmhmm.
01:10:12
Patrick Salmon
So I

Salt Optimization and Community Spirit

01:10:13
Patrick Salmon
won't give details in the sake of being wrong, but my understanding is, you know, they teach you how to, you know, essentially safely put down less chlorides and then you get some kind of reduced liability, um, uh, on your insurance ends from that.
01:10:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. I mean, that's why we went to, that's why we went to treated.
01:10:29
Patrick Salmon
So.
01:10:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
We went to treated. We went to the IBG magic and we're using literally two thirds less salt than we did before. We're so conscious of what we put down half because A it's so expensive and B it's cause you need so little of it to do the same job you were doing with regular untreated salt.
01:10:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
So we're putting down like, I'm telling you, I'm not even, I'm not even exaggerating those, those, uh, Tornadoes are on gate opening one the conveyor speed is always on one and the guys are driving through as fast as they can and it's always Honestly, it's all it's always too much.
01:11:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like I can't tell them to drive any faster while they're salting But that's I mean, that's why we did that So we're trying to be a lot more conscious of what we put down but the liquids we just like I said Don't have it
01:11:18
Patrick Salmon
I think the biggest thing comes down to is you took the time to realize, okay, this product, we're going to put less down just because it's expensive, obviously, but the product works better. It works faster.
01:11:29
Patrick Salmon
You don't need as much of it. A lot of guys still buy treated and put it down at 800 or a thousand pounds an acre.
01:11:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, dude, the first year, the first year when we switched from the untreated to the magic, we put it down at the same rate. Like you could have gone back with a skid steer with a broom and swept up after that storm of what didn't melt, ah what didn't dissolve because you just need so much less of it.
01:11:47
Patrick Salmon
I just swept it up.
01:11:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
It was incredible. So we just started from there, like trial and error patients, you know, working through. Okay. Lower, lower the gate opening, lower the conveyor speed. Like let's just get this dialed in.
01:12:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
and We eventually settled on one and one cause we couldn't like any more in the gates completely closed. You're not getting any salt out of there.
01:12:10
Patrick Salmon
Right.
01:12:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. Just the only thing we can do now is drive faster.
01:12:18
RICK JAMES
Dustin, have you had this problem? We think we're like, do you guys, do you still like so sweeping companies, sweeping lots around town still around there?
01:12:25
Matty Muscles
oh My god, oh they're fucking brutal We have this one lot and they do it really so bad
01:12:26
RICK JAMES
Cause I think they're like sweeping our salt up. but They're like sweeping our salt up.
01:12:29
Dustin
Yeah.
01:12:30
RICK JAMES
We're like, but that was supposed to be like pre-treating for next door. And they're like, yeah, well, yeah.
01:12:34
Dustin
There's, we've done it up.
01:12:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
They're reselling it.
01:12:42
RICK JAMES
Yeah, we're we that's what we think. so We're like, why went there to work? We thought it would have had enough on there to get the little layer off, but they they broom like the Walmarts and Cascos and stuff.
01:12:53
RICK JAMES
They're brooming all the time. here Every night, I see a sweeper.
01:12:55
Dustin
Because they have it in their contract and they got to go once a week, right, no matter what.
01:12:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, that $28 for them from that national to broom that you're going to get that 20.
01:12:59
Matty Muscles
yeah
01:12:59
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:13:00
Dustin
Yeah.
01:13:01
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:13:01
Patrick Salmon
$28.
01:13:04
Matty Muscles
Yep.
01:13:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm sorry.
01:13:04
RICK JAMES
How would that how about that sweeper?
01:13:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
28 50, 20, 50 ruined.
01:13:07
Patrick Salmon
yeah
01:13:08
RICK JAMES
That thing's going to be rusted as shit.
01:13:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
I was going to just say that they they're only doing it a couple of times.
01:13:12
Patrick Salmon
and Poor mechanic.
01:13:15
RICK JAMES
Matt, you had the same problem while there.
01:13:17
Matty Muscles
Yep, we have one property where they do it all the time and it's brutal and it's just like, they'll they'll pick it up. It's very, very frustrating.
01:13:28
RICK JAMES
It's a seasonal, you're like, fuck.
01:13:29
Matty Muscles
But like like dust like Dustin said though, like they contractually, they have you know they have to do it.
01:13:34
RICK JAMES
Yeah, it's not the sweeper guy's problem.
01:13:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, yeah,
01:13:35
RICK JAMES
He's just doing, he's just tired to do so, but it's just, I don't know.
01:13:37
Matty Muscles
Right.
01:13:41
RICK JAMES
Go ahead, Steve.
01:13:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh well, let's hit some commercials.
01:13:42
RICK JAMES
Sorry. Interrupted again.
01:13:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
We'll be right back, guys.
01:14:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I was going to tell Maddie that, uh, you know, he should have probably for those three 21s, he probably should have gone through the nest. Tried that route.
01:14:57
RICK JAMES
Did I listen?
01:14:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
That would have been good. Yeah. We haven't done a Jeremy Lindstrom equipment segment in a couple of weeks because we haven't had a normal main show in a two or three weeks now.
01:15:01
RICK JAMES
Lucas.
01:15:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
So, you know, we'll just, uh, we'll throw it out there. You know, as always, the, that segment is powered by the nest leasing. And no matter what you need, as far as snow removal equipment, the nest has you covered.
01:15:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
They definitely do. um Never seen dirt top tier equipment, very flexible purchase and rental options. One stop shopping guys. If you, if you need snow equipment, they still have stuff. So get ahold of them and take advantage of it. That's ah all the Arctic stuff. They, they have some program worked out there.
01:15:36
RICK JAMES
If you listen to the John's episode, you'll he'll tell you how they go through everything.
01:15:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh yeah. Big daddy, big daddy.
01:15:40
RICK JAMES
so it's
01:15:43
RICK JAMES
yeah oh
01:15:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
He killed it again.
01:15:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
A lot of people.
01:15:44
Dustin
That guy has a lot of energy all the fucking time.
01:15:46
RICK JAMES
You got to
01:15:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
Dude, he is wired up.
01:15:49
Dustin
I enjoy it.
01:15:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
He is caught.
01:15:49
RICK JAMES
get him on Snapchat, Dustin. You got to get him on Snapchat.
01:15:52
Dustin
I'm going to have to, man.
01:15:52
RICK JAMES
He's great.
01:15:53
Dustin
That guy is like, I don't know. He just doesn't stop.
01:15:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
He is fired out of a cannon 24 hours a day.
01:15:56
RICK JAMES
he's
01:15:59
Dustin
I operate on high caffeine input, but that guy's got to like have it in. He must take like a, I don't know, hit a caffeine every 20 minutes or something.
01:16:08
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:16:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Who knows? He is, uh, he is full of energy. That is for sure. I'm glad we were able to get him back on, get his two episodes in there. Lot of good information. 33 years and Arctic that's, uh, they've been doing that a long time.
01:16:21
Dustin
The cool part that I look at for like where we're at in our business compared to where they are is their systems. Like, I mean, he just rattles it off like nothing, right?
01:16:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh yeah.
01:16:29
Dustin
Like just, this is how we do it. This is what's going on. about You know, he just, he's so fast and like, shit, slow down. I got to start remembering some of this stuff, you know?
01:16:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
yes Yeah. Uh, and it's, he makes it sound so simple, but like, I think he didn't. He hit it home a little bit, but I think he needed to stress it more that those systems are in place now after 33 years of tweaking and failing and you know finding out what didn't work.
01:16:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
And now they, now they have a system in place that works beautifully. And when something else changes, they'll, they'll change that system with it, but, uh, it's constantly evolving, but yeah, they got some set up there as far as how they do things, how they dispatch, how they route optimize. It's, uh, you know, I mean, they've been doing it 33 years. You, you gotta have it kind of figured out. You're not alone. You're not, you're not around that long. If you haven't had it, you haven't got it figured out by then.
01:17:20
Dustin
But to tap into that knowledge, like that's the coolest part I think about all this and the podcast is to tap into that knowledge, whether it's him or whoever, just if you can take a little tidbit of info and implement it into your business, you're making yourself better every single day.
01:17:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
100%, 100% and they're willing to give it. That's, that's the really cool part is they, they could just be like, you know, screw it. We're keeping everything close to the vest. It's our secret. We we did this. No. What do you want to know?
01:17:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
And I like how they said, you know, teaching everybody else is just going to make everybody else elevate their game. And by doing so we'll elevate their prices so that we are, we are one of four at the table that are all within five to 10% of each other rather than, you know, they're being two guys, 80% lower than us. So I liked that. I liked that outlook. It works.
01:18:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
What else, boys? 100 main show episodes in the books. Any thoughts on the show over the last almost two years now? You guys are all pretty much mainstays.
01:18:23
Patrick Salmon
It's been awesome, you know, I'm kind of, you
01:18:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't know if you're going to stay on the show with that beard.
01:18:27
RICK JAMES
Mm hmm.
01:18:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
You better shave that shit.
01:18:32
Patrick Salmon
know, kind of like Dustin just said, and and you know, Matt was touching on it earlier, you know, um it's cool i seeing you're not the only guy you're always, you know, ah Duck tape it together to get through this storm.
01:18:46
Patrick Salmon
Duck tape it together to get through this storm. You realize you're not the only body.
01:18:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
hundred percent
01:18:49
Patrick Salmon
You're like, nobody's knocking out of the park every single time. it's That's normal.
01:18:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
100%. Absolutely.
01:18:54
Patrick Salmon
Get it done.
01:18:54
RICK JAMES
Great.
01:18:55
Patrick Salmon
Get it done. Get it done. It's just nice to see that other people have the same problems that you're just always, yeah.
01:18:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Dude, if nothing else, absolutely. If nothing else, there's always Shawn.
01:19:03
RICK JAMES
ah
01:19:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Shawn is always out
01:19:05
Patrick Salmon
yeah

Podcast Role in Industry Support and Reflections

01:19:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
there.
01:19:06
Patrick Salmon
Yeah.
01:19:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Whenever everything is going wrong for you in a storm, there's always Shawny.
01:19:10
Patrick Salmon
There's always Sean.
01:19:11
RICK JAMES
These are punching guys.
01:19:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right. Every salter.
01:19:12
Patrick Salmon
You can always maniacs.
01:19:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
He do it.
01:19:13
RICK JAMES
Poor Sean.
01:19:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, I love Sean, but me and Robert were just talking about it the other night.
01:19:15
RICK JAMES
We love you Sean.
01:19:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Robert called me. We're out salt. And, uh, he's like, can you believe, you know, in the Robert Maine accent, can you believe this guy? He goes, he lives to salt. He lives to salt. And every one of his salt trucks broke.
01:19:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, how is he solving? Every one of his salt trucks broke. And you call Sean and you like, Sean, you're all right. Oh yeah. I'm good.
01:19:39
Patrick Salmon
And he's not worried about it, man.
01:19:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
What happened?
01:19:40
RICK JAMES
<unk> No, worried about him.
01:19:40
Patrick Salmon
Ever.
01:19:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, he's not worried about it.
01:19:42
Patrick Salmon
Ever!
01:19:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
01:19:43
RICK JAMES
He's like, yeah, fuck it. It's all good.
01:19:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
um I'm doing 380 acres with one, two, two and a half yard spreader because that's all that's running right now.
01:19:45
RICK JAMES
No big deal.
01:19:45
Patrick Salmon
he
01:19:51
RICK JAMES
300 miles apart, 300 miles apart.
01:19:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'll get it done.
01:19:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
Exactly.
01:19:53
Patrick Salmon
Yeah.
01:19:57
RICK JAMES
Uh,
01:19:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
But he just does it, man. He is the perfect snow guy. He has a three second memory. He doesn't get frustrated. Oh, it's just, but that's what I'm saying.
01:20:04
Patrick Salmon
yeah
01:20:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like I, if I'm ever feeling like I'm going, I'm just pissed off. Some stuff's not going right. Stuff's breaking. Whatever guys are not doing what they're supposed to, which doesn't happen all the time, but we've all been there.
01:20:16
Patrick Salmon
call Sean.
01:20:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, I will call shawn because shawn will always Always be able to get me laughing, you know with one of his stories and but like that's what that that's the great part of the show You figure out that there's other characters out there and you're not you're not yourself or you're not by yourself.
01:20:35
Patrick Salmon
Yeah.
01:20:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah Dude shawn is Call him
01:20:36
Dustin
I got to start calling him more just like every day.
01:20:39
Patrick Salmon
and Just every day.
01:20:40
Dustin
Call, just to calm me down. I got a really, really high anxiety level, like all the time. So I'm worried about stuff that's going to break, not going to break. Is it going to snow?
01:20:49
Patrick Salmon
Well, that's my biggest problem, man.
01:20:49
Dustin
Not going to snow. That's how, that's how I operate like 24 seven, 365, even worse during snow.
01:20:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Call him.
01:20:56
Dustin
So I'm just going to call Sean like every morning at like seven, and like call my nerve.
01:20:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
Dude, there you go, Sean.
01:21:00
RICK JAMES
yeah
01:21:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
There's your next business. That's the the Salt Zaddy hotline.
01:21:01
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:21:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
He will talk snow guys off the ledge.
01:21:05
Dustin
Hello.
01:21:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah You think you got it bad? I'm always got it worse than you.
01:21:09
Dustin
He'll have an app, right? He'll have an app that he'll make.
01:21:13
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:21:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah
01:21:14
RICK JAMES
Oh yeah.
01:21:15
Dustin
He loves apps.
01:21:15
RICK JAMES
He's all about apps.
01:21:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah He got to be...
01:21:17
Dustin
He's all about the apps.
01:21:17
RICK JAMES
Yeah, he loves his apps.
01:21:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
God, he's got to be one of my top five people I've ever met. He just, he's that guy. He's so funny. And he he just, like I said, you can, he's a human pinata. He just keeps getting beat up and he just keeps, yeah, and no big deal. We'll get it done. Like his, his attitude is admirable.
01:21:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
i yeah I couldn't do it. If I had that much stuff going on and going wrong for me, I would pack it in. like I would just be like, this is a sign. This is a sign I should not be doing this anymore. Have five different salt trucks go down.
01:21:50
Dustin
i mean
01:21:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah He literally was starting one up after another and they were all breaking.
01:21:52
Dustin
that's an next
01:21:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
They were all for different reasons.
01:21:58
Dustin
That's your next t-shirt. Be more like Sean.
01:22:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely.
01:22:00
RICK JAMES
There you go.
01:22:01
Dustin
more like sea
01:22:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Be the Sean. That's it. Be the Sean. Oh my God. Just to have a picture, a cartoon character picture of him holding a case of White Castles. That's it. It's on. That's a shirt.
01:22:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
01:22:15
Dustin
but that's That's the thing, like I said, just learning all the different people and all the different products and like,
01:22:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
i mean
01:22:21
Dustin
I mean, even with Uncle Rick, like i you know we bought one of those this year. I forgot to plug that, um a new F-14. And I probably would have never even heard about it if it wasn't for the show.
01:22:32
Dustin
you know View Robotics probably would have never heard about it. like Those are game changers for us. And we're pretty small, right, in the grand scheme of things.
01:22:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
01:22:39
Dustin
But um that's huge. Just that knowledge and those tools um is probably the biggest takeaway.
01:22:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
Views taken off views doing really good.
01:22:48
RICK JAMES
We just, I just ordered, I just got another snow power last week on coverage brought here.
01:22:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
I keep hearing a lot more and more guys.
01:22:54
RICK JAMES
And then we, I just ordered another view robotic camera last week too. So yeah, definitely great tools I have.
01:22:59
Patrick Salmon
That's good. Good for them. They're good dudes.
01:23:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Dude, that's that's probably, I know me and Jeremy have talked about this, but that's probably what I'm most proud of with the show is the a ability to have us help the, like not to call them the little guy, but newer companies with newer products that maybe don't have unlimited cashflow. Like they don't have unlimited advertising budgets. They can't compete with the big three. They have an outlet now where they can get exposure. If they have a good product, they're willing to stand behind it.
01:23:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
done, like Muskox, those guys are through the roof now with sales, like they're out there, their mainstream. I'm proud as hell that we've been able to help, you know, uncle Rick and Muskox and you know, view and guys like that.
01:23:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
They're, they're good people. They make great products.
01:23:46
Dustin
The good people.
01:23:47
RICK JAMES
I just, yeah.
01:23:48
Dustin
That's the thing.
01:23:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Good people. Exactly.
01:23:48
Dustin
That's the good thing.
01:23:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's the thing.
01:23:49
Dustin
Like, they're the good guys. You don't have to be the small guys.
01:23:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
You're not getting past the fucking gate. If you, you know, you will be sniffed out before you even get, you know, into the conversation with us. If you're not, if you're not doing it right and you're not good people.
01:24:01
RICK JAMES
I just got a Snapchat the other day from, uh, hi camera, who was from, uh, muskox. They, uh, apparently on farm simulator is going to be a muskox game.
01:24:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Really?
01:24:11
RICK JAMES
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
01:24:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's awesome.
01:24:13
RICK JAMES
Yeah, that was pretty cool. So.
01:24:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's great. That's cool. But yeah, I mean, those guys are, they're crushing it. You know, they got their own line of tool cat snow tires. Now they're, they got a little baby musk ox.
01:24:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
They got some exciting stuff coming out there.
01:24:28
RICK JAMES
Nope.
01:24:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Uh, they're doing it and I'm, I'm, I'm proud as hell that we've been able to help, you know, good people with good products, you know, get exposure and all the listeners out there that are giving them a try.
01:24:35
RICK JAMES
Mm hmm.
01:24:40
RICK JAMES
Right.
01:24:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, they're, they're listening and saying, Hey shit, that might work.
01:24:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
So, you know, we, we can only put it out there. It's up to all all the guys out there to, to do, uh, do their due diligence and see if it's going to work for him. And obviously it has for a lot of guys and that's good.
01:24:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
But anything else boys, Matt's got his, his hat at Matt tired. That's that's Matt's tired hat when he brings the brim up really high.
01:25:04
Patrick Salmon
Matty looks tired tonight.
01:25:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. yeah The lower the brim, the more attentive Maddie. The higher the brim goes, the the more exhausted he is and he's ready to call it.
01:25:13
Patrick Salmon
I think Matty's on mute.
01:25:14
RICK JAMES
if He's bored by us.
01:25:19
RICK JAMES
You're muted, Matt.
01:25:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's muted. yeah's Yeah, he's muted.
01:25:22
RICK JAMES
You're a mute.
01:25:24
RICK JAMES
You're muted.
01:25:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's muted.
01:25:25
Patrick Salmon
Are you still talking away?
01:25:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Muted.
01:25:26
RICK JAMES
Muted. Muted.
01:25:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
He says, hello.
01:25:28
Dustin
He's just talking away.
01:25:31
Patrick Salmon
but
01:25:32
Matty Muscles
Just sitting here talking to myself.
01:25:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Is this your first time?
01:25:34
RICK JAMES
ha always ah I always talk to myself.
01:25:35
Dustin
Now his computer's broke.
01:25:35
Patrick Salmon
What else is new?
01:25:38
Matty Muscles
Nah, I just.
01:25:38
RICK JAMES
I use the answer too.
01:25:38
Dustin
Snow equipment's broke.
01:25:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Jesus.
01:25:41
Dustin
Now your computer's broke, Matt.
01:25:41
Matty Muscles
Oh, yeah.
01:25:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it.
01:25:43
Dustin
God dang it.
01:25:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it. He's still wondering how he's going to source parts.
01:25:45
Matty Muscles
Our pets' heads are falling off.
01:25:46
Patrick Salmon
Just call Sean. Call Sean.
01:25:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Just call Sean, Matt.
01:25:49
RICK JAMES
Kaushar, Kaushar, you feel better.
01:25:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
You'll feel better.
01:25:52
Matty Muscles
Jon Snow Therapy.
01:25:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh man.
01:25:54
Matty Muscles
No, it's all good.
01:25:55
RICK JAMES
ah
01:25:55
Matty Muscles
Yeah, no, it's just been been a long day, been a long week, you know, it's just.
01:25:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
I hear you, dude. It has. It definitely, I mean, yeah, it definitely has.
01:26:01
Dustin
What day is it? it doesn't even like Somebody put on Facebook today asking for a friend, but what day is it?
01:26:06
Matty Muscles
Yeah.
01:26:06
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:26:07
Dustin
It's middle, it's Saturday, obviously.
01:26:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Is it Saturday?
01:26:09
Dustin
But now there's NFL games on today.
01:26:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I think it's Saturday.
01:26:13
Dustin
We've had a weird week. It's going to be a weird you know holiday. Obviously, it doesn't matter to us. right We're going to go push snow, whether it's Monday or if it's New Year's Day or whatever. But it's a definitely a weird couple of weeks.
01:26:24
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:26:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. And we've had a, me and Matt have had a good eight days now, wasn't it? Two pushes and assaulting in eight days.
01:26:30
Matty Muscles
Yeah.
01:26:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
So it's been a busy, busy extended week with Christmas thrown in there too.
01:26:36
RICK JAMES
Right.
01:26:37
Matty Muscles
Yeah, I've been doing like double time.
01:26:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
and
01:26:38
RICK JAMES
Nope.
01:26:39
Matty Muscles
My, my brother's been out of town. So picking up a little bit of slack there, which is fine. Like everybody deserves a vacation. So it's all right.
01:26:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
He goes away a lot when it snows.
01:26:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm just putting it out there, Jeff. he goes he go He goes away a lot when it snows. What the heck?
01:26:57
Matty Muscles
He likes to call in and see, make sure everything's working, working good.
01:27:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, good. As long as he calls in.
01:27:04
Matty Muscles
Hey, is everything going okay? Yeah. Going great.
01:27:08
Patrick Salmon
yeah
01:27:08
RICK JAMES
not um Not if you heard the show earlier.
01:27:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man. Anybody got anything else?
01:27:17
Matty Muscles
I love my brother.
01:27:20
RICK JAMES
yeah
01:27:22
RICK JAMES
Jeff's great. Jeff's great.
01:27:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
He wants it on there, recorded.
01:27:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Jeff is great. Oh boy, who's banging something?
01:27:32
Patrick Salmon
i That's here in the heat in the background of the cave Yeah, it's the cave heat heating up and be Shaking their coins and cans I Knew I should have told Jeremy no when he asked me to come on tonight.
01:27:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh my God. is that That's the cave heat.
01:27:37
RICK JAMES
That's that game.
01:27:37
Dustin
start and fire
01:27:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
but
01:27:39
RICK JAMES
He's got prison prisoners in the back.
01:27:40
Matty Muscles
um
01:27:42
RICK JAMES
Prisoners in the back. He's lifted back.
01:27:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
but jesus ah Oh ah man.
01:27:50
Dustin
The bad part is nobody's going to understand this whole bad thing because they can't see us.
01:27:51
RICK JAMES
but
01:27:55
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:27:59
RICK JAMES
ah
01:28:00
Patrick Salmon
I
01:28:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, that's great. All right. Well, on that note, we're going to wrap it so back and go let the prisoners out of their cages.
01:28:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man. All right, guys, thanks so much for coming on. We appreciate it. but That's not going to stop, is it, Pat?
01:28:19
Patrick Salmon
No.
01:28:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
is that mor so Is that Morse code?
01:28:23
Patrick Salmon
It is.
01:28:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm trying to hear it.
01:28:26
Patrick Salmon
It is.
01:28:27
Dustin
Somebody send him help, please.
01:28:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh Holy shit. All right. We'll wrap it there, guys. Thanks for the talk. We appreciate it.
01:28:34
Patrick Salmon
hey Happy New Year's, boys.
01:28:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Happy New Year to everybody, all right?
01:28:41
RICK JAMES
ah
01:28:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Happy and healthy 2025. Hope everybody's going to get snow out there. That's going to do it for Episode 101 of the Snow Jobs podcast.
01:28:46
RICK JAMES
Evens your arm.
01:28:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Thanks to the boys again. We wish everybody the best. All right. In the new year. ah That's it. Everybody be safe. Have a great week. Keep pushing.