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Season 6- Episode 8- The Impressive Boks (RWC Finals & Premiership Round 3)
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It's those American rugby knuckleheads, here to entertain you, possibly better than some matches. On this episode, we look back at the final weekend of Rugby World Cup 2023 and all that unfolded. Where does the future lie for some of these teams? We can safely say some will be in full rebuild and others will likely have subtle changes for another go in Australia '27. We also pick out XV of the tournament, some names will shock you, others, less so. We also have a look back at round 3 of the Premiership and ask, where the hell has this team been for a certain team in black? All this, a ton more and we voice our grievances with The Rugby Network (sounds familiar). Grab a drink and have a laugh with us!
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Transcript
Introduction
00:00:03
Speaker
it is the fantasy roby angst my name is jared dyke i wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on but then you kept going i'm ben glauser i don't like any way anybody handled that collusion hey everybody welcome back it is the fancy roby angst my name is Jared Dyke i'm Ben Glauser
Ben's New Jersey Work Trip
00:00:32
Speaker
Yep. Um, if Ben sounds like he's on another planet, he's on a work trip. So that's why he sounds weird. I'm in New Jersey. That's another planet for some. Oh, it's another planet. Yeah. For those who don't know about New Jersey. Um, I mean, it's a fantastic state. Don't get me wrong, but it's free to get in. But if you want to leave, you got to pay.
00:00:58
Speaker
In some ways or another. No, no, literally, I don't think there's any way out of New Jersey without paying a toll. Without a toll? That's hilarious. I didn't know that. That's a good factoid right there. All right, well, I'm popping my beer. Go ahead. And Happy Halloween, everybody. Happy Halloween. It was light over here. Yeah. Very light over here, although someone could not shut up, Taz. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah.
00:01:27
Speaker
We don't get any trick-or-treaters at our place now. It's sad. It's main road. It's main street. It's a main road and there's plenty of places off the main street where you can get great candy. So why bother?
00:01:41
Speaker
Yeah, why bother risking it by traffic? Yeah. Make sure that you are checking out and buying our good friend George the Fantasy, your rugby geek, a coffee.
Supporting Fantasy Rugby Geek
00:01:51
Speaker
If you are one of those lovely people that got to crown themselves champion after this past weekend, you definitely owe that man a coffee slash beer. I'm gonna go ahead and check that out. There is no discrimination here on this podcast, nor should there be in sports or in life. Last week we praised,
00:02:10
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the one Brian Habana for recognizing that, yes, I've set records for the men's World Cup, but the World Cup has better records. Unfortunately, that has not carried over to other things in rugby, which is sad. No, there was a, the England rug, somebody kept congratulating Ben Youngson being England's most cap player, which
00:02:40
Speaker
Not only is he not, there are actually multiple players in front of him at this point. Yes. But of course there are women and there are a lot of- They're not real players. Right. A lot of male rugby players and rugby people, personalities don't consider that, which is annoying, but- Let's go. Yeah.
00:03:04
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But yeah, there's no need for it. And it's the same game. It's literally the same game. There are no rules changes. Right. So just get over it. And plus, it's been young. I mean, come on. I know we'll get into it a little bit later, too. But let's not. So how many of those caps were vanity caps? We saw this World Cup obviously had no business being on the team because
Women's Rugby and Ben Youngs' Caps Controversy
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It was Karen Mitchell that were riding being, you know, the horses the whole way from this like the last game, second last game of the pool play to until this past weekend. Like as much as I'm not really, I'm not, I guess I got to say I'm not sure about Bortho. We'll have to see what's coming up because the guys like Young's leaving, although he obviously was fine with Young's leaving, as he said, he didn't really play him.
00:04:06
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and some other retirements. It's like, okay, now what do you got? What are you going to do? And I'm looking forward to seeing that. Because I think he was, in some ways, he was strong armed into certain things because of Eddie. But yeah, Young's was definitely one of the ones that got right. He didn't get Johnny May right, but he got Young's right. Young's hasn't been a good race from half a year. And that's a shame. So let's not over-blow it. And that's not a big deal of it.
00:04:34
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Sorry. Rocky Clark is a better rugby player. She's certainly an awesome person. Right. I may have named my dog after her. Brilliant.
00:04:48
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Uh, make sure that you grab our Patreon. Yes. Must respect Rocky. Uh, make sure that you grab our Patreon. We are, I will get boom bust up tomorrow. We're probably one more data week away from having, uh, the sheet published to our Patrons. And that'll be up for next week. Absolutely forward to that. That'd be awesome. Yeah. Three weeks of data is good.
00:05:07
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Four is better. There's also the fact that I'm traveling to two of these four weeks. So I have limited time to actually create the sheet. Jared is doing an excellent job of getting the player data off of Subaru. So it'll be there. Yep. Patience is going to put the formula in and all that good shit. Yeah. Because thank you for the premiership run fantasy rugby for going back and forth from, you know,
00:05:35
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one through 15 to front row and the and the others to back to full. Damn it. Yeah, I got so much work to do just to fix that. Other than that, it's great. Yeah, we did awesome with that. Kidding, kidding. Okay, so let's talk. We'll talk about obviously Friday first. And I don't think we need to spend too much time on it.
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what people will say. It's a third place game and it was played like a third place game, if we're honest.
Critique of England's Third Place Game
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It really was. Like, once again, England had the opportunity to really ball out and, you know, it's a third place game. What does it matter? Why are you playing this like a test match? Go out and like, or I'm sorry, like England's perception of a test match. Like, try to run up the score.
00:06:30
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That's that's somebody's on the field that could have you had opportunity and they had opportunities to It's enough points not points I think points like yeah, what the fuck in a third-place match what a points like what? try for like what are you playing for really does it really matter if you get third or fourth and Furthermore was was Argentina really playing? That great no no, I mean they
00:06:58
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probably scored the better try of the match with Santee. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. And probably second to that was Ben Earl's just, you know, marauding run. But. Yeah, I. There's so much, I mean, credit to Theo Danford. That was an effort try. That was not a open play. Certainly. Yeah, we did it well. Try anything like that. I
00:07:29
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Yeah, I look at some of these players and I'm like, why weren't these guys playing all along like? Right. You know, Arendelle, Lewis Ludlum, I wish Ribbons got more, got more go, although honestly that. Arendelle played in the, in the third place match? Yeah, I know. Did he? Fucking ghost. Because they didn't get the ball. Like that's the problem. How the fuck can you be an international side and you have a wing that doesn't touch the ball?
00:07:54
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How can you be the third best team at this World Cup? Like, I mean, you're not, but you got third place. Congratulations. But like, I'm sorry. You have like a potential worldly of a wing. And your strategy is to not give him the ball. Yeah, I don't know if they actually. Force feed him. Yeah, that's the thing. Like, I don't think they actually passed it to him more than twice.
00:08:20
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Like he got it off kicks, but I don't think they actually passed it to him more than three times max. Like, you know, that's, that's one of those things that if I'm coaching my high school team and my wing tells me that we passed the ball to him twice, I'm losing my mind at my midfield and my, and my fly off. Like how the hell did we do that? You know, apart from a game that's a monsoon, like wind blowing sideways, you know, tornado shit, in which case you're going to tuck it up the jumper anyway. Um,
00:08:52
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Yeah, nope, nope, pretty nope, nope, nope, nope. I don't get it. I don't get it. But at least everybody now knows that Ben Earl should have been a part of the squad all along. Right. That's the other, as much as I was, some of the things that Bortho did, one of them was Ben Earl and got that very right.
00:09:14
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You know, I'm still not convinced by either Sam Underhill or Tom Curry. Once again, you've got two sixes there. You've got two sixes and an eight or a seven, whatever, wherever you want that and all the things. Yeah. And yeah, I just wasn't that impressed by either of them. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.
00:09:43
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Chasm played pretty well. Yeah. I mean, I like Chasm more since, you know, and even last match for the most part with George Martin stepping forward. So that's, that's a bright future to have, you know, in terms of what's going on that engine room, uh, along with who is undoubtedly the incumbent with moral. Um, yeah, I was just, I was looking at the ages of the semi-final team. Um,
00:10:11
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Marla and Jinx are both 33, so they might be done. Cole's definitely done. He's 36. Yeah, yeah. Dozier will be back. George Martin will be back. Loz, we already know, is gone. Yeah. Kerry and Earl are both 25. Alex Mitchell's 26.
00:10:27
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Farrell's going to be 36, but I bet you he's going to give it one more good little glorious go. And that's probably it for him. Daly's borderline, he's 31. Two, he's 32. I would not let him come back at all. And Daly, I probably wouldn't either. He hasn't been an international quality. I think we've made that point before. Yeah, we've gone into that. Joe Marshland's 27, but guess what? He's going to France for a couple of years. So you have to wait to get him back in the fold. May's gone, thankfully. Freddie Stewart is one of the better fullbacks in the world at 22.
00:10:56
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Yeah, awesome. Dan is 22. Dennis is 28. Sinclair's 30. Chasm's 23. That's great. Billy's 30, but I'd be done with him. Yeah, he's done. Kara's 36. He's done. Ford, I'll wait and see on him for four more years. It's fine. He could actually remember how to play if he's given the license to, so I won't totally... But I'd rather, you know...
00:11:20
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I'd still have marcus over him. Anyway, I agree and I agree marcus is 24 and ollie launch is 24 I threw marcus in there because obviously it's
Future of England Rugby Team
00:11:27
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something we all we all want to know Yeah, I mean marcus should be like honestly, I you know, obviously like like love farrell. Um I think marcus should be your tent going forward like at least for this, you know this next coming up year Um, yeah, you know as you're as you're resorting at your squad for the next world cup. Um, I think smith has to be it
00:11:47
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Yeah, I want to see and this is for every team going forward for from this after this tournament is I want to see in this year, year and a half. So from this coming, you know, Six Nations and summer tours and TRN and autumn tours, I want to see
00:12:10
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just some sort of change where, or at least some sort of ambition to not continue to do the same thing and use the same players over to go like get fresh bodies in. Yes, you can keep a few core guys. I'd say when I say a few core guys, I mean like five at most. And when you talk about a 30 odd 35 plus player squad and go for it. And that's what I'm hoping most teams will do. Some just need to reload and they'll be fine.
00:12:40
Speaker
But yeah, explore what you have, you know, explore what you have and you know, you will find, you know, I don't know if France had not given Billy Barry a shot if they wouldn't have found they would, I don't think they would have found him and, you know, they're also accustomed to
00:12:59
Speaker
sending B teams on tour on long tours. So that's the benefit of that. So, you know, guys experience, like you said, that's the problem. And that's really the, the, where the Johnny may conundrum comes from. Cause who else do you got? Who's like got significant experience? Like Aaron Dell's had a cup of coffee. I don't know that you can put him in a big game yet. No, again, all Eddie, it's all on Eddie. Cause he never, he picked his team and only his team and you don't want his team fucking socks.
00:13:28
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Yeah. Case in point, he stepped down from now two teams. Yeah. When you crush the potential of two teams at one World Cup, you're fucked. Yeah. And now he's basically like, he's almost persona non grata. I can't imagine Japan actually hires him. They might. I mean, Jimmy Joseph's done, so. Yeah, but I mean, you can't tell me that you... Whatever.
00:13:57
Speaker
Anyway, so Let's go let's go Saturday How dare you break your cycle of 12 years of World Cup wins there, South Africa in honest To be to be fair the game was ruined
00:14:20
Speaker
Yeah, so I was told. Ruined. Ruined. I had some stupid Aussie barking on my ear about how it was ruined now. I was like, oh, shall we? Really? Would you?
South Africa vs. New Zealand Final
00:14:31
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Really? Yeah. Shut up. Yeah. We both know who it is. Agreed. I almost put a glass to his face. I was getting really annoyed then. That was for another reason, but we won't go there.
00:14:47
Speaker
Yeah. From a neutral perspective. It was tight. It was intense. But it was not the 2019 was a better watch than this. This was Yeah. Well, you know, I that's my biggest problem with South Africa is it's just they make it. It makes it hard to watch. Like it's a great match. But their style of play makes it not the best spectator sport. Hmm.
00:15:17
Speaker
And they, you know, they kind of clued things up and yeah, they use their physicality and it's, it's impressive. It's highly impressive. Yeah. I mean, their defense, if New Zealand had played attacking rugby for 80 minutes, they win. But because they decided to only do it for about 40, maybe 30. Yeah. South Africa just had to front up for those 30 or 40 minutes, which they did. Right. Granted, they can see it a try, but still that's what they did. And
00:15:42
Speaker
That's what you want. You know, inevitably won the game on top of, you know, the fact that you don't have a couple of issues off the tee. Yeah. That's, that's the worst part is that New Zealand had the chance to win this twice. You had two opportunities. So like, you can't really complain. Like that's why the red card, ultimately it mattered, but it didn't cause they had every opportunity to win. Yup. Yup. I mean, even though it didn't count, like,
00:16:13
Speaker
What was the nuggy try that got chalked off? Oh, God. That was fun to watch.
00:16:21
Speaker
Oh, man. Oh, how? How? And really, I think on the there were a lot of things that broke one way or the other. And people will say, oh, we got screwed by this. We got screwed by that. You know, but New Zealand will say that that's about should have been carded for his shot to came, which people have been highlighting since we got it. And some will say marriage. Yeah. Yeah. If Sam Keynes
00:16:48
Speaker
It was a red kalisi should have been read as well as i was a red two and then some people say parrots try shouldn't have counted because it rolled forward which. My initial gut feeling was actually that it did do all the hands backwards and then roll forward so that's right that was it for me just like bernsey said so i'm okay with it yeah so.
00:17:07
Speaker
say what you will about it. They landed here and they had, how many tackles did Khaleesi have anyway? Like 20 odd, something like that, something stupid. He had a dumb number of tackles. I don't remember what it was, but I remember just being like- And that's including- The 10 minutes he sat on the bench. Right. And well, that's, and Khaleesi, Khaleesi had nearly 14. Okay. Or is that tackles?
00:17:32
Speaker
But I mean, Peter's after 28. Fucking kidding me. Holy shit. OK, maybe he was the one I was thinking of. He was everywhere. He was ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. He had no 25. He had three misses. Three miss. OK. Oh, because his tackle attempts. OK. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. But still, God damn good. Yeah. All right. He played his ass off and I thought that as well. So
00:17:55
Speaker
I'll give Dion free credit, although I will give South Africa itself more credit.
New Zealand Lineout Strategy Issues
00:18:01
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They limited his throws in the line out. They knew he was gonna be in trouble when he had to come in for a long time. So they did a good job of just being like, nope, we're gonna go, because we're not fucking around with this line out. Not with a guy that's only been throwing for like a month. No way. And here's what I don't get though, too, from the other side of that picture. South Africa was giving New Zealand the front
00:18:26
Speaker
jumper. They're just giving it to me. And New Zealand kept trying to force it to the way back back. Yeah, no, too very far back. And it's like a lot. Yeah. And at some point as a coach, you're just like, you know what, I know maybe we have a plan. Maybe we have a plan. This isn't working. Win a fucking line out. Mm. Yeah. Just win it.
00:18:48
Speaker
Don't you don't have to be cute. You don't have to, you know, try to go. I don't know why you would have that anyway against South Africa. Yeah, let's just go to the back. I'm sure that there was a reason that goes into it, but. At some point, especially early in the match when things are going awry and you realize you can't hit a fucking long line out with that, you will either go to hand or won't be won't be stolen. Take what they're giving you. Yeah.
00:19:16
Speaker
It's gotta be a point. It's a way too much of a trying to force things that aren't that aren't working Again, these are little things like that that could make the difference and it's like look if you if you think the only way you can win this match is if it goes to the back Well, then you're not winning the match anyway, cuz So you're having issues just win a lineup might as well try and find something else. Yeah. Yeah, I mean
00:19:43
Speaker
I have to say in terms of people that ended up on the pine for 10 minutes plus of the people that I wouldn't want to feel very horrible about being on the bench and losing, Colby's near the top of my list. I would have, you know, who's not near the top of my list is the other fucker, Frizzell. When they were doing that, I'm like, I'm going to be honest.
00:20:07
Speaker
If this is a red, I'm not going to be mad. Well, I would have been mad. Right. Because so I did, you know, and for fantasy, I picked him up in both leagues because I was like, you know what, I'm going against my, uh, I was, I was constansing. I was like, if everything I have is wrong.
00:20:24
Speaker
then this must be right. And I was like, nope, I was right. Nevermind. That wasn't my problem. That wasn't the problem. That was not the problem. But also, Sam Kane, I mean, can we be done with him? It was a mistake to have him as captain.
00:20:41
Speaker
going into this site, going into this area. I don't think Ray's just going to keep him as captain. So that'll be the upside of him coming in. Right. He's going to, I'll give Fauzi a lot of credit for getting here. You know, I wrote, we wrote them off a long time ago and the fact that they got here says a lot. And okay, Fauzi, you proved yourself to be worthy because you got here and you were one chick away from lifting the trophy. Like can't really shit on them.
00:21:10
Speaker
You know, let's, let's also call as it is those two quarterfinals that these two teams played in. Those were the semi-finals. Right. Let's be honest. Right. Let's be honest. Yeah. The, the, the semi-finals were purely performative. We have to give you guys a chance, but we all know you're going to fuck it up. So you got South Africa to drop to that level, but yeah, I don't think there's a whole lot to say otherwise. So, uh, well done South Africa. Here's, you know,
00:21:40
Speaker
There's not much else to say. I don't think it's a great watch. It's not watchable per se, but it's impressive.
00:21:50
Speaker
I mean, back to back titles, the solid four. I was also looking at their ages. Their average age is over 30. So there's going to be a lot of these guys not coming back. So this is definitely one of those teams that needs a big rebuild like a year. Like you start, especially your hooker contingent, because even if you were going to pretend that Dion Free's still a hooker, he's 37. So he's done. Bongi is 32.
00:22:20
Speaker
So he's probably on the line if not done. Marks is done. Yeah, you need to bring in some other guys. That's about 32. He'll give it a good one more time. I would be one to bet. Yeah. One of two was not coming back out of, yeah, one of two out of those guys. That's about that's not coming back. And I bet it's mustard. Yeah, mustard wasn't that good either.
00:22:46
Speaker
No, he wasn't. He wasn't really, yeah. He didn't shine. Not like, say, Peter Staff. Peter Staff, yeah. Could be back. Might not be able to say he's 31. Yeah. Snehman's only 28. Yeah, he's coming back. Yeah. Vermeulen shouldn't have ever been anywhere near this one. He's not coming back. He's going to be 41 by the time the next World Cup hits. No way. But they still have Lisa who is, what is he? 28. He's 28. Wow, he's getting up there, too.
00:23:13
Speaker
Yep. But so he's got at least one, if not two more. Yeah. Pollard's 29. He should be back. I'll be back. I don't know. I'm not confident Fafel because there's just so much talent at the half pack position for the spring box. So yeah. And he's slowing down. Yeah. Yep. Dale and Dale will be done.
00:23:33
Speaker
Although also should have been Mr. I don't pass. Yeah, it should be at some that it should have been at some like they're they're fortunate that that didn't bite him in the ass. Yeah. You mean that's right. And that's what I mean. Yeah, I knew I knew I knew you were going. Yeah, I knew we were going. Yeah. Ox is only 28. He'll be back. Yeah. So he's OK. There's there are some good players to come back, but they are definitely going to be dropping a lot of weight, literally, literally. All right. With that.
Team of the World Cup Selections
00:24:04
Speaker
Let's do a team of the World Cup. All right. I went somewhat creative on this because I went with guys who you might not have been the best player at their position, but to me had the best World Cup for them at that position, as I do. As you do. Loose head.
00:24:25
Speaker
Yeah, same. He was fantastic, the whole World Cup. He's going to be around for a bit more. I was just looking at his age. Hold on, timeout. He is 24. Shut up. Shut your face. Makes you feel stupid, right? Yeah, so he'll be around for a bit. Whoever's got him, lucky you. Hookah.
00:24:56
Speaker
Oh, who'd you go with? For Lucid? Yeah. I also went with Gaggio. Okay. I wasn't sure. I didn't. Yes, I did. It was unclear to me. Yes, I did. Nope. Hook. Mavaca. Mm. Who took that position and is like, okay, Marcia insert. I'm coming in. I'm going to make this my own. And he was fantastic. Literally 1A1B. No chop off. Right.
00:25:25
Speaker
Um, I love this player and I thought, despite the fact his team did not have a good World Cup, I went with Montoya. That's fair. So yeah, the team was okay. He's the heart and soul of the team. And the reason that they at least got to the semi is partly because of him. So right. He kind of dragged that because like, they don't have, they don't have much, they really don't have much else going on except for the two players we just talked about in the forwards. And that's about it. And one, one little guy, but that's it.
00:25:52
Speaker
Um, well, yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm just talking about for the forwards. Right. Yeah. They got, they got, they, they do have, they do have some younger players coming in, but they also have some other guys that'll be aging out. Um, like Kramer's 24, which I was shocked. I was like, I was like, this dude, this, I feel like Marcus Kramer has been around for quite a bit and he's only 24. That was shocking. Um, so him, um, tight head.
00:26:25
Speaker
Well, yeah, I do going with three. Well, I went with a guy who can swing. Oh yeah. That's right. We talked about that. Um, swings. Yeah. Cause I was like, well, I, you know, he had a good, he had a good game for, or if good for a cup for a loose head, but he can also play tight head. So with Porter. Yeah. Yeah. Most people will do that pick, but it's a legit honestly, he,
00:26:46
Speaker
Yeah, he did. He did a number on quite a few teams and just, you know, again, under one of those, I mean, yeah, along with France, just one of those unfortunate teams that landed on the exact wrong matchup. Yeah. So good on him. Uh, I went with, uh, Lou tiny from Fiji. Just excellent. Just really enjoyed himself out there. You could see it every time you guys, he has on the ball. I was, I was having fun watching him. So, uh, yeah, good on him.
00:27:15
Speaker
I look forward to more Lutengi wherever I can get him. Indeed. I wonder where he, where does, where does he play professionally? Unless he's with the Drua, which is also a possibility, but I think he's in France. He's in Bayonne. Not bad. Lucky bastards. Do something with him. That might actually not be Bayonne.
00:27:39
Speaker
You see? Yeah. It's Bayonne. Okay. Oh, commonly called Bayonne. Okay, cool. They're so confusing. Yeah. It's like a different language. Yeah, you know. Yeah, he's Bayonne. Yeah. Not a bad spot. Let's go to the engine room. My first lock is Elizabeth. Same.
00:28:09
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, really it was neck and neck with him and Artie for a role player of the year. Right. So, yeah. There it is. You got to have him in there. The other one was? The other one, okay. So I went outside the box here because again, this is more for the tournament he had was excellent. And I was looking through the list of like the big names and you know, the white lock, like basically all the Kiwi guys.
00:28:38
Speaker
but they all were kind of like, man, um, Barrett was good, except he kept getting, you know, kind of getting himself in trouble and retaliate, but they, they all took away time from each other and opportunities from each other. So it didn't really, they didn't stand out. It told you it was a toji, but I don't think he was a game changer. Um, no, if he had been, then they would have been in the final. Right. Um, and to me there, there was a game changing lock, um, from a non,
00:29:06
Speaker
Final four team or even, I don't know. They made the knockouts, but knockouts. Oh yeah. Um, and I went with will roll once. Yeah. Surprisingly. Cause I mean, excellent. He did. He played excellent for his time. Those are, those are tough shoes to fill in too. Remember this is without Alan when Jones anymore. So it's like, it's a lot, it's a lot on you. So if you can perform to a decent level with that type of pressure on you, then yeah. Thumbs up to you, sir.
00:29:35
Speaker
That is more like a hat tip for his performance. Yeah, right. Yeah, definitely. He did well. And then I also went with a guy that didn't make the final four. I went with Bern. Which is, yeah, he was also on my list, but I think I have a couple other Irish players. So I was like, I don't think I'll go somewhere else. I have one more, but I wanted to go. I thought he was in the pack. I think he was probably
00:30:01
Speaker
He was damn close to the best one that was playing. You make an argument otherwise, it'd be tough. But yeah, in terms of consistency and how well each one played, he was up there. Six. So again, because South Africa flipped their
00:30:22
Speaker
flip their flankers. I went with Peter Steph Dutoy at my sixth. I went with Sia. There's a sixth. Case and point about how well the two of them played in the final especially. A little bit. Especially Peter Steph, certainly he was head and shoulders above a lot of people in all the knockout games really, but certainly in the final. Man, so if that's your sixth, who's your seventh?
00:30:52
Speaker
So this one is, I'm going, this one, I went way outside the, um, didn't even make the knockouts. Um, but to me was worthy of, of inclusion. Um, just based on his performance alone. Um, I went with Nicholas Martin Martins from Portugal. All right. All right.
00:31:09
Speaker
Yeah. Shout out to him. Good. Yeah. Some of these guys are some of these guys from these, you know, last in countries in the world. I'm getting signed to other places too, which is great. Um, like we just signed. Yeah. Yeah. We just signed up one of the Chilean captain. Yeah. That's awesome. That's what the, the, the free jack seat is another really talented. We usually don't have a problem with that. So that's the good loving it. Loving it. Loving it. But yeah, that's a great shout. Um,
00:31:40
Speaker
Who was your seventh? Who was the best player on England this tournament? Oh, Earl. Yeah. I went with Ben Earl. That's my seventh. Perfectly acceptable. I think anybody that argues otherwise is smoking shit you don't even smoke, man. There's a significant amount of things I don't smoke. Exactly. They found them. Yeah, there you go.
00:32:07
Speaker
Number eight. I couldn't think of anybody. Neither could I. Oh, wait, we'll play the year Artie Sevilla. Flip a coin went with him. I was so happy for him to get that at least. It's a really shitty consolation, but the fella deserves to be recognized. We talked about it throughout most of the last
00:32:30
Speaker
three years. The two best number 8s have been him and Audrey and he just upped his game another notch. He really did. Especially in this latter part of the World Cup. Yeah. Really has. Definitely one of those like the
00:32:47
Speaker
The big-time players make big-time plays in big-time games and yep, and he saved his best for when it mattered most So yep. Yep. Love the guy. So he's got he's got a few more years on So, yeah, you guys can more to go Is he hold on hold on? He is 30 on the nose Wow Yep, so he's at least got one more. Holy poop. Yep
00:33:13
Speaker
Good for him. If he pulls a Sexton, then he's got two more, but he's at least got one more. That's good for us, not good for him. Yeah, we get to enjoy him one more time. Nine. This one was kind of tough, because there are a lot of usual suspects, and a lot of them didn't really show up. Yeah, I like Jameson Gibson Park. He wasn't electric like he can be.
00:33:43
Speaker
Yeah, it was kind of disappointing, actually. Like, he was one I would look to, so it kind of just, by default, went to Anton DuPont. I mean, that's like a hard default, but... No, you won't. You'll be hard-pressed to argue that. Plus, he, you know, had a plate put in his face and came back and played, so... Came back and played. Freaking show him some stones. Mm-hmm. As he does. Yeah, I went with Nagi.
00:34:10
Speaker
That's fair. Another guy that just drove things on. Another guy that just pushed things forward for a team that needed it because we were saying, we rode them off pretty well, especially after they're talking at Twickenham and then they're lost to France. Everybody's like, oh, is this the end? Are they even going to make it to the semifinals? Proven wrong. He had a line in winter type.
00:34:36
Speaker
Performance like this is the end. I am leaving everything out here. I'm like, that's you know, I'm my most dangerous So good. Yeah, that's a that's a real good call But I again I kind of wanted to move away from all blacks because I had a couple others Yeah, I've I got one more but ten Richie Mo Well somebody I considered hard
00:34:58
Speaker
Yeah. Guy played his ass off and really made the tension of his own. I mean, he's going to Japan for a bit. They're going to be begging him to come back. Yeah, they are. They really are. But he should go to Japan right now and make his coin. And then in two years,
00:35:16
Speaker
You know, they're not playing for Alliance tour or anything right now either. So yeah, you know, if they were playing for Alliance, all right, that'd be one thing, but they're not. So just, yeah, go, go make your bones right now. Dude, do that. Totally deserves it. So good on him. Great, great tournament for him. The man that this guy showed his value exponentially
00:35:41
Speaker
the more games he got as he came back into the squad for South Africa. And I picked Andre Pollard because how much did that kicking percentage go up for them? And even Libach like started to realize, oh, I need to bring my kicking boots from here out because Pollard's back in the squad. This tension is going to get taken off me. Right. Did eventually. But yeah, he was he was in consideration, but yeah.
00:36:08
Speaker
Certainly had a, had a wonderful World Cup himself. Yeah. You know, and, and even think back to like, you know, it's really shitty that he got hurt, but like he was doing it because he was trying to frigging help bless her. Right. And yeah. Yeah. Just came down with that stupid hammy. I was just like, Oh, that was, you know, but the struggle was real, but he got back. So good on him. Uh, you want to go centers? You want to go just number order centers. All right. Midfield. Mids. Um,
00:36:41
Speaker
12... I mean it's... Do we have the same guy? It's hard to pass up Mano Tuolagi for here. It's really hard. Oh wait, you mean the guy that plays like everybody thinks Mano Tuolagi plays? Send to me if... Well, there's a couple guys that could fit that bill. That's true, actually. But really, if Mano... People think Mano Tuolagi plays like Bandiaki, but he does not.
00:37:08
Speaker
No. So my 12 is Bundy-Yaki. Who? Man, too long he wears Bundy-Yaki PJs at night. Right. That's just how it is. Yeah, no. Bundy had a fucking storm of a tournament.
00:37:23
Speaker
I don't think he's going to be back. Unfortunately, he's going to age out, which really sucks. Yeah, it does. It's going to be hard to replace him. Yeah, bloody hell. Dude was great. And that was, he was a lot of them to watch. Part of wanting to get sun. Yeah. So look forward to what he does the rest of his career, but I'm not sure we're going to see him in another World Cup. So just sad that's the last time we'll see him there. 13. So
00:37:49
Speaker
This guy actually wore the 13 jersey for a country that doesn't know how to use that position at all. And he showed up and had actually a pretty damn good tournament. And I don't think I have any of his teammates on this list, which is why he made this. And it's Marchant. Ah, yes. Yes. Yeah. Doing a lot with a little as they say sometimes. Not giving a whole lot of
00:38:19
Speaker
Yeah, not giving a whole lot of help to say the least. No. And he did a lot with it. He's like, you know, that's one of those things where I'm like, again, Eddie, fuck the team. Like Marchant should have been on the scene for a while and he like should have been used instead of just, you know, completely abandoning that position and attack. A body. Yeah. Yeah. Like we said that the, something about England in the 13th shirt seems to just be a gaping hole for attack. And he looked like,
00:38:49
Speaker
better than competent in that, that shirt. So yeah, I think that that's just a lot about him as a player. Yep. Yep. Yep. It does. But he's looked, he looked like a serviceable 13, which is a huge step up for English 13. In English 13 these days. Yep. Competent. Wow. Yikes. Uh, uh, I went for a guy who also, he's the only one representing his team. Um,
00:39:20
Speaker
We talked about his switch to the 13 channel and it's obviously paid off in spades for Wales and it's just been, he's been just raining tries in and making plays. George North had himself a heck of a tournament. For long time listeners of the pod,
00:39:41
Speaker
we can go back that it's on the tape, we can go back and find it somewhere. It's back there. At some point a couple years ago, someone on this pod was was like just ringing the bell to put put him at 13. I don't remember who it was. But no, you're right. He did. That's where he belongs. And he's he has been great there.
00:40:07
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Damn good tournament for a team that we didn't expect a lot of either. No. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, that was good. It says a lot that each of us had a Welsh player on, on that, on this list. Right. I mean, I only have one England player. They would, they would, they mean, they made all the way to the end. Yeah. No, it wasn't pretty. Um, Fort, so let's go to wings. Let's go. Let's go attacking wing first. Yeah.
00:40:36
Speaker
Um, who you got? I got Talia. Attacking me? Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Breakout play of the year. Right. He was, yeah, I mean, he was definitely making people look silly on, on Saturday. They had given him the ball just a tiny bit more. Things might've gone a little bit differently. Maybe. Especially given, I mean, he got the ball locked in around the midfield.
00:41:00
Speaker
And it's like how about you give him the ball in the wing where you know if he breaks one tackle. He's running Really really far, but I mean he was also fighting work off the wing So that's good. I mean that's that's why he got the ball so much He's like you know what I'll come and attack here, and then I'll get in my position
00:41:13
Speaker
Yeah. Workhorse for sure. Yeah. Yeah. We know that I'm a fan of this guy and I thought he played brilliantly for every time he got a shot. Mighty Mouse. Yeah. Mateo Carreras. With the exception of probably one game where he kind of just, the whole team faded, let's be honest. Right. But other than that, yeah, he is, he's definitely a huge reason to be excited for the Puma Sofia.
00:41:38
Speaker
If you're an Argentinian fan, you should be very excited about this guy. He is 23. Yup. Yup. And really the whole Argentinian team average age is pretty good. And the only reason that it's not any lower is because you have two 38 year olds holding it up. You have Gus Creevy and Kadella are both 38. Everybody else is like 31 and under.
00:42:08
Speaker
He's 34, but he's also done. So lots of young, exciting talent for the Pumas and he's one of my favorites for sure. 14. So I went back and forth on this one. I want to give a little bit of a shout out to Marky Mark who deserves a shout because he was an excellent 14.
00:42:38
Speaker
That team just a terrible team But ultimately it's it's hard to deny Damien Pennell his due. Yep. Good player Damn good player and just couldn't couldn't couldn't hold him off. No, I would Another one it I wish we could I wish we were gonna see more of him out. He's coming back I'll just find him. Hold on time out. I
00:43:07
Speaker
Time out from the game. I just saw him. Where'd you go? It was in the wrong position. No, I'm trying to find it. There he is. Twenty seven. OK. We got we got we got more Damien Penno in our future. Brilliant. OK, good. But you also never know because France, again, is one of those teams that will like really like they'll they'll bring new guys in.
00:43:36
Speaker
Like, who knows if Penno is going to be on the team because they'll have other people. You know, they were cycling a lot of guys in and out of the team the last few years. And ultimately, he still landed in the World Cup team and played in the big game. So it may well be the same situation. So I think we'll see him again. It's just a matter of the probably going to just rotate in some new blood and get some other guys some time. And imagine that. Yeah. Wow. Imagine that. Hell of an idea.
00:44:06
Speaker
Again, another guy, I'm a big fan of this guy and I have been since he started, which wasn't that long ago, but he's burst on the team since. I mean, his strike rate is just stupid. Will Jordan, just stupid. It's just a ridiculous strike rate.
00:44:25
Speaker
It's not tied some pretty awesome names for men's world cup. Glor like, yeah. Okay. You, you get, you get the, uh, you get the nod buddy. Well done to you. Well done to you, sir. And then fully back. Um, same team. Um, he just had a wonderful world cup as he, as he always does. Um, there's other players who, you know, like you mentioned,
00:44:52
Speaker
pretty steward, but at the same time, he kind of got pushed out for Marcus Smith back there when Smith was healthy. But nobody's bumping Ramos out of that 15 shirt. Yeah, same. Yeah, I picked him as well. He was class. He still is class. He's one of those people that you just... You know you're boned if you're ill to splint when you're playing France, because he will hit him. He hits him from
00:45:19
Speaker
most places like he's got a damn good kick rate. So it's like, he's only 28 too. So that's the good news as well. He'll be back.
00:45:29
Speaker
Yeah, it's the really disturbing thing is you have Melvin Jaroni behind him who's almost the same exact player and you just plug and play. So it's just ridiculous. But yeah, I really love Ramos. I like him. He's a little versatile. I'd like to see him be able to play one more position because yes, he is a lovely fullback, but you need just a tiny bit of variety. And I think they've been trying it. He's been trialed at 10 a lot for his club, but
00:45:59
Speaker
I don't see that yet. So I would like to see him do that next little bit of thing before we go to Australia in 27. So that, that would be my one thing. If I were galaxy, I'd be like, let's see you play a little bit better at first receiver and then really make sure that you are never going to take, be taken off the field. Right. Only doesn't good. Did you pick a coach out of this whole thing? I did not. Um, I did.
00:46:27
Speaker
But my coach would be the Fijian coach. Simon Rilallo, same. Yeah. I don't want to attempt his name at the moment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's stepped down, but you know, he was kind of a, he was a band-aid, but he was a damn good band-aid at that. And those nice big fat ones that you got when you got a nice big gash and he did a good job, did a damn good job with it. You love the word gash. Fucking weirdo.
00:46:55
Speaker
All right. So with all that, let's go to the Premiership.
Premiership Rugby: Saracens vs. Bath
00:47:02
Speaker
Oh, I tried there were other matches, huh? Yeah. Yeah, we'll run through this. Not too quickly. Not too quickly, but not too slowly. Emphasis on the latter. Right.
00:47:12
Speaker
So I was, I was saying this to my wife, like, this is what pisses me off about Saracens. Cause they could have been doing this shit the whole time and they weren't. So here it is. And it's like, where the fuck has this been? It's been two weeks. I'm okay with it. It's been, it takes some time to get the team working well together and it's a world cup year. So guys are away and you know, it's, it's not easy. Um,
00:47:41
Speaker
But, I mean, it does help when Tom Willis actually is like, hey, oh, by the beat, my last name is Willis, right? Right, okay. Game on the basket shirt is important sometimes, kiddo. Yeah, it was nice of him to show up. Yeah, a little bit. That kind of helped a lot. And that Lewington try. Yeah, showing some footy skills. The little footy skills on there is the scoop. And, you know, it also helped that Mercer went off early.
00:48:10
Speaker
Yeah, and McWiggin and I don't want to say I'm glad because I love those two players. But honestly, as badly as we needed this win, if that's what it took, OK, I hope they're both fine next week. Yeah, this coming week and no big deal. Right. And that that was a high shot. McWiggin took that was. Not not good. So is that the one Macco was sitting for? Yes. Yeah, so I thought.
00:48:37
Speaker
He, Mako, again, I think it's time to move to Maui as your starter. Yeah, I mean, he came back for the day to get himself some time, you know. Right. Right, right. But it's time to. Yeah, it's time to make that switch permanent. Now. Yeah, I'm not sure they're going to nudge towards it. And where the hell has Oliver Hoskins been?
00:49:04
Speaker
Is he hurt? I wonder if he's banged up because like Christian judge really and Clary. Yeah, really. I know. Like you have these two international potential players. I mean, Costco should be international when, when whoever the new coach is, you know, he's got one captain's name. He does. He does.
00:49:26
Speaker
Yeah, but it was it was good enough. So I'm not mad about it good and really the thing that has been missing from the first two games has been that that blinding defense that just Gets in your face and makes life hard on you and they didn't have it the first two games what there was plenty of that in the Exeter game
00:49:48
Speaker
Yeah. Blinding in a different terminology, I believe. Oh, gosh. I believe that in a different way that you were using that word, sir. I think my mind is going to gouge my eyes out. No, no, no, no. Call that defense. Yeah. Rather bad. Rather bad. Whatever. I'll take it. They desperately need points off that.
00:50:16
Speaker
Oh, no points from three would have been a horrible start. And we could, we definitely would kiss top two goodbye. At least they got this one. So hopes are still there. Let's go to, let's go to the next day. Bristol and Quinn's. Damn good game. Not bad. Yep. That was, that was a fun one to watch. Yeah. Just,
00:50:43
Speaker
That's good. Honestly, that's the type of stuff you want to watch. If you're looking for a palate cleanser, that's the stuff you want to watch out there. Obviously, this was on beforehand, so maybe you go back and watch it after those two World Cup games. But yeah, great job by Jared Evans and the likes, Don Brandt. I'm still not in love with the idea of Oscar Beard as a 13.
00:51:14
Speaker
but I'm glad they have Inyavu in there as well. So, just the hope in there. Yeah, I mean, that is kind of your problem with Northmore hurt. And Esther Hazen away. Pickens are slim. So, yeah, I think like kind of putting him in there in a pinch, fine. Right. But like I said, I'm just, I'm not in love with the idea. It was fun. I'm serviceable for the moment.
00:51:44
Speaker
Yeah. Mm hmm. On the same position other side. That's a little bit more like it. It is. That's kind of what we've been waiting on. Well, because I think because I even mentioned to you that I was about to text you that the bears have not figured out yet how to use Ben Hardy on Savannah Rensberg at all, until
00:52:08
Speaker
They're like, oh wait, we can use you as a battering ram and then use Vakata on the outs. And that's what got the try. It's like, okay, there you go. Like this guy can do so much. Like both of these guys are just monsters in space. Maybe use them for what they can do. And it worked. Yeah. Oh, an idea. Yeah. She's been playing well too. Yeah. I think she is. It's like, okay, I got to get myself back in, in the graces of, of Welsh rugby, if I can.
00:52:37
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, all the time. That's a good open position now, so. Yep. All the time to do it, Grant. You know, you have other players that, you know, obviously Costolo's put his hand up for that one, but still. Yeah. Yeah. Good time to throw your hat in the ring. Right. Good time to get right. Mm-hmm. Yes, yes. Yeah, I wasn't really thrilled with, like, Ybetoye, Huard, Lane. Like, the back three, I thought, were kind of meh. Been a little bit of a ghosty ghost, ghost, ghost.
00:53:07
Speaker
for what they can do. Ghostface. Yeah. A little bit. A little bit. Did you catch any of the extra games? Because I did not, unfortunately. No. No. I caught the score. No. And said, I don't need to watch them. Kind of said what I wanted to know on that one. I was like, huh. OK. But I have to say, though, I kind of look at the
00:53:33
Speaker
There's some players on this, like they threw Nathan Langdon. Yes, that is a relationship in there at Hooker. And I can't imagine that that's something they wanted to do like desperately. So, you know, that's part of the problem. I'm sure it was a part of the problem most of the day, although it looks like he didn't even come off. So. No, he didn't. No. Oh, because they use their backup Hooker for a back row sub instead. Yikes. Yikes, yikes, yikes. That sounds like a bad day.
00:54:03
Speaker
I'll go back and put it on on the side. Nope. Can't do that actually. So we're going to, we're going to talk about that in a second here. Um, anyway, uh, bath Lester though, a little sloppy, but still entertaining, which is good. You know, the one thing I'll say about
00:54:26
Speaker
Finn and people were kind of like, oh, he's not going to be used to the English weather, duh, duh, duh, because he had been playing in France and obviously playing a lot of, yeah, a lot of false. But like, the dude's Scottish. He knows what weather it is. He's not fucking stupid. It sounds like you go away and forget how to play in sloppy conditions. Like, what do you think he plays in Six Nations? Right. Der. Like, what planet are you on? So, yeah, he was always going to be able to figure that out.
00:54:53
Speaker
I, I'm not like, um, I want to be clear. I'm not trying to say take the way it went away from Lester. It was gutsy. It was a good job from them. But what I don't love it was happening towards the end of this match. Was the referee just kind of arbitrarily going with a call for one team or the other at the Scramit?
00:55:11
Speaker
can we listen if it's down and it's at the back just play yeah and if someone's trying to nudge forward because they're trying to buy a penalty like you have to see that right you know like and I just I get a note and this is these are obviously not the best referees that they have there those now those are obviously all away well
00:55:32
Speaker
Well, they have a lot of referees away, not all of them are the best, but you know, like, no, Dixon isn't around. Yeah, tempo was, how the fuck did tempo? Tempo was around somewhere. I have no idea where he is, though. Well, he wasn't E.T.M.O. for the for the World Cup Final. Nope. Who was who was that then? And, um, who was it? Foley. Oh.
00:55:56
Speaker
And I thought I saw tempo and I know he's, I think he's still in England. Okay. Um, yeah, anyway, not, but yeah, still, this is, this is part of the development and even some of the referees are supposedly good. Still fall into this shit. So like, just don't, don't, no need to reset it. If it's been one, let's just play, knock it off. You know, no need, no need either way. Doesn't, that doesn't matter which team we're talking about in that case.
00:56:26
Speaker
Really doesn't. And then... Yeah, I wanted a palette cleanser again, but...
00:56:36
Speaker
I didn't get it because that wasn't pretty either up at Newcastle. No. And we know things won't be necessarily pretty up at Newcastle. Right. That's kind of the thing. Still, I was like, what are you guys doing up there? Anybody got to play rugby? Like the one moment that people decided to play rugby was the freaking Langdon tribe, Pearson and Langdon hooking up. And I mean, that's kind of what the Saints need. They need something like that to happen more often than not.
00:57:02
Speaker
But other than that, yeah, it was pretty, pretty choppy. Pretty mad. Yeah, it was kind of mad, kind of mad. Although I'll give him, yeah, the credit for feeding Stevens out there. Yeah. Conan's not a bad fly half. I've said it before. I'll say it again. But again, he just doesn't have enough with him. I mean, now I'm actually kind of interested in, in Newcastle potentially, like,
00:57:31
Speaker
if they get Stevens, if they have obviously Radwin and Mighty Mouse. I know they got some other centers too, but they don't really perform well for Newcastle. I like Rory Jennings. I think he's solid at what they needed, certainly at 12. I think that's a good get for them. Penny's obviously not a 13.
00:57:57
Speaker
No, he's better serve in the back three somewhere. Yeah, but again, that's that's that's not like that's the funny thing That's like the one position that Newcastle have like super depth that now Mm-hmm. Yeah, I do I Do the do yeah, and they have guys coming back. Um, I thought guy pepper was pretty good as well He's okay. He's some kind of oh, so yeah, he's looking pretty good. So that's like the only well him and blemire are your only forwards that are worth it because the Shav's Vanderbilt
00:58:26
Speaker
check. Give me a fucking blank. Yeah. No. Although they're getting, there's two, I think there's two of the Argentinian continue. Yes, I think so. So that's the good news in terms of the forwards. They also have the other guys as well, but in terms of the forwards, they have two or three of those guys getting that way. So there's help on the way. Help is on the way. Good. They need it. Um, and then finally, look at that. We're not even quite an hour. Um, I,
00:58:57
Speaker
I was excited about the rugby network having the prem covered.
Rugby Network TV App Complaint
00:59:01
Speaker
I'm no longer that. And it's because they don't have a TV app to watch the game. No, it's fucking annoying. You have to watch on either a computer or your iPad or something. And you can't even cast it to the TV. Yeah. There's no option to... They not only knew that they weren't going to be able to have a TV app, they decided to lock the app for that too. I was like, ugh, guys.
00:59:27
Speaker
You're killing and I just checked. They, they already have it locked for, um, subscription. So, Oh, really? So now it's, now it's going forward. Yep. So I am having a hard time. How much is it per month? Six to $7 someone on there. It's not terrible. No, it's not terrible, but silly till it's annoying to charge for an iPad app is kind of stupid. Yeah, no. Um, I don't know that I'll be buying it until
00:59:58
Speaker
I don't know how I'd watch your games though. So I guess I'm going to have to, but still. Well, you know, like if I want to watch really good means that we used to do. Right. That's, that's kind of what that means. Replays is the bitch, but yeah. Life. We get around those. We've gotten around that before. We can get around it again. We're resourceful. Um, yeah. So that's just really shitty and yeah. Sorry. I'm not excited anymore. Tiara and you, you kind of suck. Yeah. You're now at the flow level.
01:00:28
Speaker
Right. Good job. It will flow. I can at least watch on my Roku, so. Right. Grand, you pay $10 a month for it, but you know. Right. But whatever. It's better than watching it on your tablet or computer. Blah. Anywho. Um, yeah, so. Roku final. You were. We will see everyone in Australia in four years for that.
01:00:57
Speaker
Um, Australia is going to need the help. I have a feeling by then. Um, they already do. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're in trouble. So I know, um, I'm, I'm hopeful to pay Eddie to not coach them. So not be a bunch of idiot. Yeah, I know. Um, yeah, for that, for their sake, I hope they're really looking hard at what the solutions are until super rugby starts and until they're, you know, picking teams for the gym tests and so on and so forth.
01:01:28
Speaker
Um, yeah, hard looks need to be had and hard conversation needs to be had and lots of honesty needs to happen. And if it hurts people's feelings, bucket, you're only gonna hurt yourself if you're not being honest. Right. Yeah. Cool. All right. So we're going to head over to the rugby corner real quick. We're going to the fancy corner. We're going to take care of that a little bit. We'll talk about who won leagues and champions league and all that shit over there. Um,
01:01:56
Speaker
But if you're not coming over there, then we're probably going to hang out with you next week. We'll be back to Jess Prem. We're only going to talk Prem likely with a few other things. But yeah, so if you're not coming over there, we'll see you then. Fancy where we podcast at gmail.com like I usually say, but whatever. I was waiting on that one. Yeah, but
01:02:22
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What else do we have to talk about over there? Nothing starts it. That's about it. Yeah. That's about it. Yeah. I know. Really. I'll get rankings out. That's the one thing. I'll get rankings out. I'll get rankings out. I'll get boom bust coming. But until next week, we'll talk to you guys soon. Have a good one later. Cheers. This has been the Dancin' Sea of the Yanks podcast.
01:02:48
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