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Three sisters. One hundred episodes. Countless laughs, tangents, parenting stories, tech disasters, and honest conversations. In this special milestone episode, the fishes look back on how the podcast started, what they’ve learned, how life has changed over the last 100 episodes, and why authentic connection matters more than perfection. It’s funny, reflective, vulnerable, and very, very real.
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Navigating Authenticity in Podcasting
00:00:00
Speaker
It's hard to kind of put yourself out there every week. like And I also know that one loyal listener we always have are mom and dad. So like if I'm going to talk about sex or like something with my body, you know like i try to like pretend like they're not going listen because it's not for them. i'm really trying to connect with another community of other women who might be experiencing some of this and trying to manage how to age as gracefully as I can Right. And it's like, it's hard and tricky. And I find myself trying to be brave to do it but and not be embarrassed.
00:00:39
Speaker
And it's hard. Yeah. It surprises me how hard it is. It is a tightrope walk every week because you want i want to be authentic. We all want to be authentic. But also, I don't want everybody knowing every little like thing that's going on in my life.
00:00:55
Speaker
So you know that is always kind of like a slippery slope. So listeners, we love you. We want you to hear our authentic selves. But some of it we want to keep private it too.
Introduction to 'Three Little Fishes'
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Speaker
Welcome to Three Little Fishes. We're three sisters who grew up in the Midwest together, but have since spread across the country. i live in Los Angeles. I'm in Nashville. And I live in Philadelphia. We are all married with children, have all had careers, but now we stay at home with our families. Join us as we share secrets and stories about being women, wives, and mothers. We welcome you to laugh along, learn something new, reach out, and join our conversation.
00:01:39
Speaker
So let's jump in. What's up, fishes? What's up, Ficious? Good to see everybody.
Celebrating Milestones: 100 Episodes
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Y'all, this is a very exciting day. Do you know what today is? Our 100th episode. We've done 100 of these.
00:01:56
Speaker
Can you believe it? mean, it is actually kind of hard to imagine because it doesn't seem like that much, but that's a big We that to say? That's like the crazy thing. mean, seriously.
00:02:09
Speaker
I think so. I think we have that much to say. yeah But how, like, it's been kind of crazy, right? yeah we originally, like, came up with this idea to want to get together and put something on the air. So we wanted to do this because we're talking about secrets of being women, wives and mothers. Yeah. And do you think we're doing that? Do you think that we are...
00:02:35
Speaker
enjoying telling these stories, right? Well, hope so. I do. hope it resonates with our listeners. You know, we're just everyday people and we talk with our girlfriends and our families just like everybody else. And, you know, we're not special, but it is nice to have like a platform to share your voice and to yeah like bounce ideas off of and normalize some of the chaos that is life as you go through different phases. So i hope that people enjoy listening to us and I hope they continue to listen because we enjoy doing it.
00:03:17
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, i feel like we're just trying to make a difference and connect with people, even if it's one person, You know, that we reach out to, that they resonate with us, but
Origin of 'Three Little Fishes'
00:03:31
Speaker
that's what do. And like an Amy Poehler, right? Or like a famous person. I mean, not to call Amy out, but we're not famous. We're not professional journalists. We're not entertainers. We have no acting experience. Clearly, like if you watch us on YouTube or something, you're like, they don't even look at the camera nine times out of 10. So...
00:03:52
Speaker
I mean, honestly, we trust the girl around the corner and hopefully people like, you know, what we talk about. And if they have ideas for what they want to hear about next, like shoot us an email because we're always ready to listen.
00:04:11
Speaker
But you know what is sort of funny is like, it's, I think sometimes it's hard for people to find us because Three Little Fishes is not an intuitive name like, You know, it doesn't say talk show or informational or whatever. It's something personal to us.
00:04:29
Speaker
So I don't know if that was a mistake or not to call it that, but we love the name because it's so much about us. yeah So Kathy really pushed for this name, right? Kathy, like this name was really important to you in particular, Three Little Fishes. Well, I mean, we went round and round. That's not...
00:04:49
Speaker
We did. We had a bunch of names that got tossed around. literally have a list. And I was like, oh, this is a great one. They're like, no. and it just i mean I'm going to list a couple of them. Give us a few. So we like to fish up in Canada.
00:05:08
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and That's like our summers. We are all together and fishing is a big thing. So I thought cast and connect because we're trying to connect with other people. Yeah. They're like, no. It's very cute. That stinks.
00:05:22
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Meet us on your time was one. Meet us at the mic. I thought was cute, but I think that was already taken. I mean, that was the thing. lot of our names were already taken. They were gone. So yeah.
00:05:36
Speaker
Sisters Get Real was another one. um Let's Get Chatty, like Chatty Cathy. mean I don't know. I think sisters too, like really, equal like when we did some like research on it, it really like also meant like it leaned more towards like religion, like sisters. Right. And I was like, well, we're not religious. I mean, we're not.
00:06:00
Speaker
you know It's not a religious show. Yeah. Right. See, and even now, I can't even get out my thoughts. Like, it's still, 100 episodes later, I can't talk. One of them was for you, Nancy, the three Gerbers, because Nancy likes Gerber daisies. I do.
00:06:14
Speaker
But we did settle on Three Little Fishes because, first of all, we do... We have a special place up north in Canada and we love to fish. So the three little fishes seemed appropriate. There's three of us.
00:06:30
Speaker
There's three of us. And then our grandmother used to sing on the radio and she used to sing this song, down the medal down in the meadow, in the itty bitty pool, swam three little fishes.
00:06:44
Speaker
And that's kind of where we were like, oh, this is meaningful. So we I guess landed on that, right girls? Yeah. Do you want to sing a bar of that? We'd love to play that song for you, but like the royalty, like hoops that you have to jump through to play this like 80 year old song is like bananas. But I think that Kathy could sing it. She used to sing it all the time. You want to sing it? It's a cute little song. Three little fishes down in the meadow in the itty bitty pool swam. Three little fishes down the mama fishy too. Yeah. I mean, that's as much as you're getting.
00:07:20
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But she's just saying this to us all the time. so I think we were like, that's that's our name. So that's how it came about.
00:07:31
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Yeah. I mean, the branding is hard for that. But yeah, I mean, it's meaningful to us. So if you have a fish that you think might enjoy listening to us, tell them to follow us. But that is an interesting thing about branding, right? And like with all the podcasts out there, it doesn't really tell what we are. Right. So I do think, is it confusing? Like, should we keep it still because we love it? And, you know, hopefully people will come still. I have my Three Little Fishers shirt.
00:07:59
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We all do. Thank you, Melissa. Thank So for you, Kathy, you're like, no, I don't want to rebrand. I'm going to figure out way to shout it out of what we do.
00:08:09
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You know, women, wives, and mothers. Okay. what thats my That's my vote. So over the last one hundred shows, we have sort of like come up with this little formula if you listen to us regularly. So a lot of times at the top of the show, we'll do something like what's on our mind, what's the buzz and what's the buzz and like, or what are we watching? Are those, those three, I feel like really are consistent.
00:08:38
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Though what's the buzz? I mean, the last couple of years, there's been a lot of buzz. What are some highlights of things that
Podcast Highlights and Celebrity Discussions
00:08:45
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we've covered? yeah Like Katie Clark. Sean Diddy. Sean Diddy. Naughty.
00:08:53
Speaker
You were obsessed with him for a while. know. he He was bad to the bone. He was naughty. um Taylor Swift getting engaged. That was big. Yeah. What about Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster?
00:09:07
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Yes. Hugh Jackman got divorced and then he started dating Sutton Foster. and so the big prediction for me, which kind of crushes my heart a little bit, is Kylie Jenner and Timothee Chalamet. Will they get engaged this year? Yeah, that's prediction. Don't do it.
00:09:25
Speaker
Don't do it. Linda's crush. Come find me in Nashville. Right, because he's a Jenner? Because it's a Jenner? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, don't know if she's a great... Maybe she want to get into that family. there and Doesn't she already have like three kids or something?
00:09:42
Speaker
She's adorable. Like he needs to... mean, I don't know. Like, it's is he going... I don't know. How old is he? We also ah like watched a lot of shows the last couple of years that we shared with everybody, like Running Point, Hacks,
00:10:00
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Only Murders in the Building. Oh, White Lotus. that was yeah yeah That was really good. Which is kind of shocking that you like White Lotus, Linda, because it's really, really edgy at times. And I'm surprised sometimes that you like it because, you know, normally you're like, these people are crazy. i can't handle it. These people are crazy. But you're all in.
00:10:20
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i liked i actually like that show too, but I like the beginning seasons. The last season, I was like, what is going on here? and It got a little crazy, but it was good.
00:10:32
Speaker
It was good. What else did we talk about? Oh, you guys, we've had so many guests on. like We have. I mean, amazing. Amazing guests. I want to Riley, my friends.
00:10:49
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My friend, my dearest friend, Lori. Her practitioner. Well, we've had like some good conversations, right? We've been talking about like women in particular, like menopause is super like important right now. We're talking a lot about that, talking about our skincare and what we need, especially as we get, as we are aging and our main one to our kids and like the teenage years, like of trying to like,
00:11:17
Speaker
not problem solved, but kind of have support for each other because you need, I feel like a community. Yeah. And there's no one answer for anything those kiddos. And going back to like, um, who was, who, I just lost my train of thought Linux. I wasn't done talking. My, um,
00:11:38
Speaker
was trying to tie this back into Amy Poehler. So like going back to Amy Poehler, like she talks about teens, but to be honest, like I don't wanna hear her talking to me about teens and all these resources that she uses to like help support her teen. That's not, it's not in touch with like the normal person I feel like. So I think that I'm looking for resources for like the everyday person of like,
00:12:05
Speaker
being and more in touch with the everyday like family of how like how they handle things.
Family Life Anecdotes
00:12:11
Speaker
Right? yeah Like, right. Well, I mean, that's what we're doing. My two college kids just returned from college and literally um One of them dropped all their stuff in my kitchen after I had just cleaned it.
00:12:28
Speaker
And I was like, what is going on here? And my other one dropped all my stuff in my bedroom because he was sleeping in um our guest area because we had guests for the PGA tournament last week.
00:12:42
Speaker
So we we had a full house, but I just have stuff everywhere. And I'm like, oh my gosh, it's making me about It's hard. Like, well, can they not clean it up? Like, do you not do you not have them clean it up? Or like, what do you do? Well, the problem is their closets are full of clothes they didn't take to college. So there's no room in their closets.
00:13:05
Speaker
So it's like they have all this stuff they brought home. So it's like they have to go through all their stuff and either donate to Goodwill or whatever. I mean, it's just like a whole other layer of organization. That's a lot of work.
00:13:19
Speaker
Yeah. i Yeah. um Yeah, I have that too. i don't know what the answer is. ah We've had to reorganize the garage and the lower level and closets, and we still have like little things here and there.
00:13:35
Speaker
I know. And and what of my kids, he's not even moving out. He still lives in his apartment. He brought home more stuff than my kid that doesn't have an apartment. I'm like, what is wrong with you? So why did he do that? Like, what's his thought process?
00:13:51
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I have no idea. You didn't ask? I'm like, no, like mama i need I might need it. ah nice You know what, Kelly, that kind of sounds like, that kind of sounds like you, like you are like, would say something like that. I had to bring it because you just never know. Well, I mean, can relate. I mean, let's just say that. I mean, I've been on a trip where I've had less than more and the less trip is stressful. Cause you're like, I don't have what I need.
00:14:26
Speaker
So, but you know, I mean, du like they said these teens at night and all their shenanigans, I'm just like, I'm not prepared for this yet. it's Like, because it loud, like, are you sleep, not sleeping? Because they're like, the kitchen is constantly open.
00:14:44
Speaker
i come down. It's like the cookie monster had been there. There's crumbs everywhere. It's like, what has happened down here? Um, So we need to have we need to have a word about manners for this summer. Family meet or meeting time. What are some of the favorite snafus that we've done? i can think of one. Nancy mispronounces words all the time.
00:15:09
Speaker
Yes. I know. I mean, Nancy, not to you know give you a hard time, but we're giving you a hard time. I don't know what my problem is. I am worried about like what I'm going to look like in the next 20 years. Like, will I be able to string sentences together? I just don't know. It's like, it's like the camera goes on or the microphone goes on and all of a sudden I can't talk at all.
00:15:34
Speaker
I mean, I just think your brain is working faster than your mouth. And yourself great um you are not a professional entertainer like none of us are. So yeah, you're doing great. But it is funny that you mispronounce words all the time. We have one of Kathy's classic Sanfus this morning. we were trying to get on to record and we had technical difficulties.
00:15:57
Speaker
Oh, you're you're bashing me. A hundred episodes in and we can't figure out the technical stuff, right? A hundred episodes in. And honestly, it's like almost a weekly thing that we can't do. It's hard. Like if it's not you, Kathy, it's me. It's towards me. Like, it's hard.
00:16:15
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I will admit these last two weeks it was me. And I know i i realized i think it is by my my old microphone is worn out, maybe.
00:16:26
Speaker
A hundred episodes. Maybe it's just like I've had it. Do you guys know that episode in Pretty Woman when they go to the opera and they give her- Yeah, she's trying to flip. Yeah. They give her the, what are those called? The binoculars?
00:16:43
Speaker
Yeah. Those, what are they? Opera glasses. Yeah. Opera glasses. She can't like flip them open, like to work right. I feel like that's us. One of us is constantly like, I'm broken. It's broken. i can't like, I mean, it is honestly like the blind being the blind. I was broken this morning. I'm so sorry. Yeah. That's okay. And all my tech people were gone. Nobody was here but me and the dog. And i was like... Well, I don't know if our listeners know this, but we don't have staff.
00:17:12
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Like, no one's manning the farm here. Like, it's just us and then producer Tim, who actually has a full-time job. So, you know...
00:17:23
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When we don't do things right,
Social Media and Online Expression Challenges
00:17:25
Speaker
it's all on us. And we are still learning. And, you know, one thing I feel like I really don't know how to do still is like social. So like we have the pod, but then we also have our socials. I'm so at that. I have all these big ideas about what I think I want to do or post, but I can't figure out how to get it out of my phone or out of my brain because I just – I don't know what my problem is. I didn't grow up with like Instagram and I'm on it, but I don't know how to like put stuff together. So for instance, I was at Kathy's last week and I have all these cool videos and pictures from the PGA championship. And I had this vision in my head about all these posts I was going to do. But then I would get back to the house and I'd be like, it's all stuck in the phone. Like I can't figure out how to get it out. And I really need to like spend some time i mean learning how to do Instagram.
00:18:19
Speaker
old, like a being like, how do you put this out on the web? No, I'm serious. like It is such a flaw because I do think it's fun to see just like little snippets of stuff. Sometimes you don't want to listen to a whole 35 minutes of something, even though it is riveting. um So that's something I really feel like I need to improve on is my technical skills.
00:18:45
Speaker
because I don't know how to do that. What's changed in your life since we've done episode one? Has anything changed in your life? Yeah. My kids have gone to college.
00:18:55
Speaker
My husband got a new job. Yeah. I mean, those are big things, right? Yeah. like What about for you? Did you ever think in a ah and a million years that you would be a podcaster? Like,
00:19:07
Speaker
No. What does it feel like for you to like get on the air every week? I mean, I do enjoy it, but sometimes it causes me stress, especially so my husband does travel for his job, but sometimes he works from home.
00:19:21
Speaker
And the printer, it like I have my office and he has his office. But like, he'll be printing stuff in my office when I'm trying to record. And I'm like, what are you doing?
00:19:35
Speaker
Like, it's so loud. Did you not get the memo? He's like, oh, oh, my bad. I'm so sorry. I'm like, Peter, like, seriously, please do not. I'm on the air.
00:19:51
Speaker
Do not see the red light. But it's like that. And the dog. I mean, it's just like, I think like it's harder than it. It probably appears to be, you know, in your area being professional. Like I get like news people. i mean, it takes a lot of preparation and effort and.
00:20:12
Speaker
yeah yeah It's hard, right? You have to be together. What I've noticed is we have to be very disciplined and sometimes life gets in the way of that discipline and it harder than it seems. My people get in the way.
00:20:27
Speaker
people do too, yeah. I'm like, I'm recording. Be quiet. like Get out of here. I find it like challenging to be like, I am definitely an extrovert.
00:20:40
Speaker
um And I definitely am not afraid to to talk to people and meet people. But I will confess what I have found challenging about this more so than I thought is being
Sharing Personal Stories and Privacy
00:20:54
Speaker
vulnerable. And like, you know, it's hard to kind of put yourself out there every week. Like, and I also know that one loyal listener we always have are mom and dad. So like, if I'm going to talk about sex or like,
00:21:09
Speaker
something with my body, you know, like I try to like pretend like they're not going to listen because it's not for them. i'm really trying to connect with another community of other women who might be experiencing some of this and trying to manage how to age as gracefully as I can.
00:21:27
Speaker
Right. And it's like, it's hard and tricky. And I find myself trying to be brave to do it, but and not be embarrassed. And it's hard. Right.
00:21:38
Speaker
Yeah. It surprises me how hard is. Well, it is a tightrope walk every week because you want i want to be authentic. We all want to be authentic. But also, I don't want everybody knowing every little like thing that's going on in my life. Right.
00:21:54
Speaker
you know, that is always kind of like a slippery slope. So listeners, we love you. We want you to hear our authentic selves. But some of it we want to keep a private too. So...
00:22:06
Speaker
I don't know. And like learning confidence. Like, i don't know. I think for me too, it's like, I'm trying to grow my confidence as I get
Building Confidence with Age
00:22:14
Speaker
older. It's in a different way, right? It's like, I feel like,
00:22:17
Speaker
You know, when you're younger, you're trying to learn confidence as a young adult. And then you think, oh, I've made it. I'm like this adult and I'm raising a human. But I don't always have confidence and feel good in my skin all the time and trying to figure that out. And I'm like, is this normal to struggle with confidence sometimes, even in my clinic when I hit 50? Or am i not normal and I need to figure out why i can't be more confident when I'm doing things. You know what I think it is? It's like when you get to this age, you really realize you don't know. Like there's a time, you know, in your early adult life where you're single and you have like your job and you've got the world by the tail and you kind of have it all figured out. And then you go through. But then by the time you get in your 50s, you realize like,
00:23:08
Speaker
there's a lot more nuance than you gave the world credit for 20 years ago. and I think that kind of like rattles everybody because I used to feel like, oh yeah, this is it. This is the answer. this But now I know like there's really not an answer necessarily for everything yeah or one answer. There's could be five answers to something. So that I think trips I mean, I i think...
00:23:37
Speaker
This podcast, I mean, for sure has made the three of us closer just because we're constantly talking all the time and discussing like you know topics we're going to talk about on our next podcast, catching up just to day-to-day stuff.
00:23:55
Speaker
But I think you know when Nancy asked me if I would do it, she was like nervous I wasn't going to say yes. And I think, you know, with COVID happening and then all that stuff, I just think it's important that we all connect because we need it, like in our day to day life.
Connection and Post-COVID Closeness
00:24:14
Speaker
Like when I don't talk to people, you know, for a couple days or whatever,
00:24:20
Speaker
It's kind of lonely. And so, yeah, I mean, i think this podcast, I was thinking if somebody can listen in and that we're making a difference for someone, that's why i said, yeah, I will do it.
00:24:34
Speaker
So I hope we are making a difference. I don't know. I hope so too. or just being ah just being a voice for or a community that somebody can come hang out for a half hour and be like, oh, they're going through it too. Or you know what? They are crazy. And and no, I'm not doing it that way. Like that yeah that's so dumb. Right.
00:24:55
Speaker
It's just yeah good to have like, a I don't know. Well, we're real life people. And we're like you said, we don't have, you know, a big staff of people that are helping us. Like we're we're doing our day to day tasks by ourselves.
00:25:10
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And. i'm Right. We don't have a staff. Right. And I also think of like if, you know, if a if a famous person can do it, they weren't always famous. Why can they do it? And I can't or why can't I try something and make it work? Why can't why not us?
00:25:27
Speaker
Yeah. Just because I started out as a social worker doesn't mean that I can't like go into other areas like we grow. Right. And we. Yeah. We can blossom and do different things. It's never too late. Right. To try new things.
Encouragement for New Pursuits
00:25:41
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Maybe one of our listeners will hear this and they'll do something that they've always kind of wanted to do like. write a book or take up a sport or start a podcast, write on Substack, do something that, you know, you thought, you know, that ship has sailed, but it really hasn't. It's never sailed. You can do whatever you want at any age.
00:26:03
Speaker
Yeah. I like that idea of like, we keep, we can keep reinventing ourselves, right? Like an number ah age is just a number, right? We can always keep changing and growing at least i'm trying to do that sometimes i do it better than others days me too see even then you guys did you hear that sentence i couldn't even get it out clearly i did but i wasn't i wasn't gonna call it out we weren't gonna call you out i just you know i just kind of want to see we i know and hopefully you guys all do too like as we are
00:26:36
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speak Nancy. i mean, what in the heck is wrong with me? So listeners, um we're going to do a toast, but I wanted to kind of like, before we do it, I wanted to talk about this a little bit. So we all went to a summer camp in Northern Wisconsin called Clearwater Camp for Girls. And they celebrated Christmas in July and we would do, we would write jingles for all of our campers.
00:27:01
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Kathy takes it to the nth degree. She wants us to do dances. She wants us to do songs. We do jingles. We have like, I do like her big anniversaries and birthdays. We're writing songs and we're doing all these dances and stuff like that. And we wrote a four like sentence quick toast to thank all of our listeners and Kathy is like we've got to do actions we've got to do jazz hands and we've got to dance so i' got and I'm like honestly I cannot let's do it girls I mean please I mean a lot of people are listening to this and they're not seeing it anyway Kathy torments us she's tormented us our entire lives with these like dance singing like I don't know it doesn I don't know
00:27:51
Speaker
Anyway. You're never too old to do a jazz hands. Is what you're trying to say? I'm not just saying I don't love jazz hands, so I don't want to do it. Okay. it's only It's only four stanzas. So this is a jingle or a toast? It's a toast.
00:28:06
Speaker
It's a jingle toast. Why don't you... You just can't help yourself. You can't help yourself. All right. Thank you, listeners. You made us shine.
00:28:18
Speaker
Three little fishes, a hundred times divine. From our hearts to yours, we raise a cheer. Thanks for a hundred episodes. We're so glad you're here. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers.
00:28:33
Speaker
To a hundred more episodes, fishes. Yes. yes Well, we want to thank you for listening to our hundredth podcast. Thank you for letting us sister strump into your day.
00:28:45
Speaker
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00:29:00
Speaker
Have a wonderful weekend, fishes. Ouch. Chessians!