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037 - Conversation with a Goalie Mask Artist with Jordon Bourgeault
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This week, we were very fortunate to have Jordon Bourgeault of JBo Airbrush sit down with us and discuss the behind the scenes of painting masks. He tells us a bit about the process, who he has worked with, his social media journey, and some of the other cool things he has on the go. For purveyors of really sick goalie helmet art, this episode is for you!
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Introduction to DIY Goalie Podcast
00:00:06
Speaker
Welcome to the DIY goalie podcast, where hosts and goalie coaches, Nathan Park and Connor Monday share their insights on how to become a better goalie. Welcome back to another edition of the DIY goalie podcast. Goalies hope you're doing well today.
00:00:28
Speaker
Um, before we dive in, just because at the time that this, uh, episode will be published, it will be Christmas Eve. So hopefully you guys have a happy holidays, Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, whatever you guys are celebrating. Hopefully it's, uh, it's going to go well over the next couple of days for you guys.
Guest Introduction: Jordan Borgo
00:00:49
Speaker
Um, today we have a very special guest that I am personally super excited about.
00:00:55
Speaker
Um, we've got Jordan Borgo from Jable airbrushing, who's going to talk to us a bit about the, uh, um, how to, I guess, paint masks and the behind the scenes on that and getting into all of that. So super excited for that as a goalie who very much enjoys good, uh, good helmet art and has no artistic bones in his body whatsoever.
Journey to Painting NHL Masks
00:01:24
Speaker
So, uh,
00:01:25
Speaker
How are you doing today, J-Bo? I'm good, man. I'm good. Thanks for having me. Yeah. Thanks for joining us. Um, so to start off, why don't you just kind of give us a little bit of an intro to yourself, a little bit of a background before we dive deep into the nitty gritty. Sure. Uh, yeah, as you said, uh, I go by the tag J-Bo airbrush, I paint.
00:01:49
Speaker
ah goalie mask, I paint other things as well. I've done a little bit of it all like body painting, canvas work, I used to do automotive a lot. And that's where it was what got me into doing goalie masks. And then most recently, I pretty much am doing mostly NHL masks. I'm still doing a little bit for the regular guys, but my lineup is getting so full with NHL that it's probably gonna be pretty rare that someone gets a spot in with me. um Yeah, is that gets up to date? Yeah,
00:02:20
Speaker
Yeah. fair Fair enough there. Well, Jaybo, thanks for coming on the pod. Much appreciated. I don't know if you can see behind me here, but I do have a couple of a couple of masks right there. Nice. The ninety one is ah kind of one of the stock eye tech masks from when I played back in you know Novice Adam. And then the Hakva Maple Leaf one was actually like, a I want to say it's like the first like I don't want to say it's like custom airbrush mask that I got, but it was like one of the options that you could get like painted for your mask from HACFA. Oh, okay. So that's why I had that from like...
00:02:59
Speaker
bantam onwards pv bantam onward there so nice prize possessions right there and then i just saw a white mask now so oh no yeah it's uh well you know when you have limited amount of money then you kind of can only do what you can um yeah na nathan doesn't pay me enough is what i'm trying to say uh oh yeah rolling these advertising dollars Yeah, exactly. um Well, let's let's talk about how to join. You kind of mentioned it a little bit, like you were doing, I think you said, body paint, body art, ah as well as our vehicular artwork. automo Automotive stuff. Automotive stuff. Yeah, thank you. um so And then you kind of said it, and that's when ah how you got started into painting glowing masks.
00:03:50
Speaker
So, when did you realize that make when you wanted to make the transition, or that you wanted to start adding doing goalie masks into your wider work, and kind of how did all that start coming about? Yeah, basically, I was working at like an automotive place. It was actually more industrial, I guess, but you would paint like the same kind of way, you know like the big spray guns.
00:04:12
Speaker
um And I used to draw. When I was younger, I could draw like a bit of an art background, just self-taught. But you know what I mean? I used to be a hobbyist. So all the people that I worked with were like, oh, you should get an airbrush, because it's sort of the automotive art tool. And then in doing so, I like painted like you know some stuff for myself and the drummer as well. So I painted my drum kit, painted my dad's guitar. like you know You start out painting your own stuff or things for buddies. And basically, as soon as I got half good,
00:04:40
Speaker
there's enough people, you know, playing hockey in Canada that people were just like, oh, you can airbrush here, paint my goalie mask. So the first few I did were, you know, for like a few hundred bucks and just for basically cover materials and have a go at it. So, uh, yeah, I did a few of them that way. And then I got, eventually got like, you know, enough of a portfolio that, uh, well, I guess even then I got a bit of a portfolio and i ended up getting a job at, um,
00:05:07
Speaker
a prop painting place. Well, not painting, they would make them too. So basically like, um like, you know, a big guitar for like the hard rock motel or whatever, you know what I mean? And like dinosaurs from museums where they would make all that stuff there. And I was at the paint shop part of it. I did that job for about a year.
00:05:25
Speaker
And I did really get to hone my skills there, like we were painting, you know, detail type stuff like every single day. And then I was still kind of doing side hustle stuff and ended up getting laid off from that job. It was like 2010, there was a recession sort of thing. so Uh, got laid off, but I had enough side work that I was like, well, maybe, maybe it's time. I just try and do this thing like full time. And it sort of like forced me to dive in and and start doing JBO airbrush full time. That's when I sort of started as my like actual career. Nice.
00:05:59
Speaker
So how does the leap then happen from doing buddies, beer league kind of goalie helmets to, you know, getting to yeah work with the NHL goalies and get on the big stage?
Significant Projects and Collaborations
00:06:11
Speaker
Yeah. Well, for me, it happened, uh, like a big jump because I was basically doing really good work and I wasn't getting really any NHL masks.
00:06:22
Speaker
And then randomly one day in my DMs, Carey Price hit me up and was like, hey, that skull mask you painted was pretty cool. And I think he was even fishing to try and just buy it. But of course, it was for a customer, so it was long since gone. And I was like, oh, wow, this is a pretty good opportunity. So I just said, hey, well, I can paint one up for you, like change the details a bit.
00:06:45
Speaker
You know, and that's where I added all this. I don't know if you're familiar with that mask, but I add all the sort of like hidden Montreal, Canadians, uh, background and information and little carry price stats and stuff to it. So kind of like I have to take one of my coolest paint jobs I did and then now like get to do it again and reapply all this kind of cool NHL stuff to it. And that was, um, the first, well, technically it wasn't the first, I always say that it was, uh, I did paint a mask, um,
00:07:14
Speaker
Red Obera was on the flames for a little while. And when they moved in there, he had like, I think it was stocked in heat or something. I don't know if it was stocked in there, but anyway, he had like the the farm teams logo on his mask still, and they didn't want that. So I painted this mask overnight. I literally did an all nighter to just like paint, repaint a mask and get it so we could have it for that next game. Then they didn't play them and they played them the following game.
00:07:40
Speaker
ah But he was only he was only there for a short while, and he probably only wore it a few times. And also, because I was so rushed on it, certainly isn't my best work. It was kind of cool. But, you know, it was basically just a generic, logo-y mask. So I kind of just, you know, discard that one, but that's truly the first NHL mask I painted. And then that was years before, and then years and years went by, I never got any more NHL stuff till the Carey Price thing happened. And then that just like kind of blew me up in that,
00:08:09
Speaker
in that world. um I was basically an unknown to like, painted this craziest mask, you know? So people really liked that one. And then from there, I got Markstrom. And Markstrom has been like my kind of steady guy ever since. And I have like a few others now as well.
00:08:27
Speaker
Yeah, it it helps in one of the biggest names, I guess is the one that reaches out. Yeah. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Wasn't just like, Oh, it's a pro guy. And like, it could easily be like, you know, like a third string guy or, you know, one of those guys that hold up and down, but it was like, yeah, that the biggest goalie still remaining in the NHL at the time, basically. Yeah. I remember, um,
00:08:52
Speaker
back when because back when I was playing and you're 12, 13, 14 years old. you know you're You're looking at all the goalie masks, that stool and stuff. And I remember Dave Art. I think Dave Art was one that I followed for the longest time and it's gonna be this is gonna be sound like a total loser but I'm okay with it um where Jeff Deloria who is like my favorite goalie one of my favorite goal is at the time with the others had like the oil drips laid down his mask can't specifically that one Stewart's gonna kind of wear something similar
00:09:31
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like it's been done. Yeah, that's probably, you know, referencing that. that old Yeah. talk but but But I ended up just taking blank pieces of pieces of paper, drawing out kind of similar stuff, and then I just taped them to my helmet. The ref got mad at me and told me to take them off before I come back. So I was like, all right, cool. But anyways. I mean, it's not so different than getting some vinyls on them these days. You know, if you had it like a proper vinyl and and a color and you just cut it and stuck it on there, I think that is If we are going to get into the DIY eventually, I mean, I think that's the cheapest way someone can manage to do something cool. Yeah. We see, I definitely see a lot of that in the Facebook groups. I want to ask you two completely different questions here. Cool. So you obviously, we've worked with Kerry Price and Marcson being your your your your guy and then as well as Red Obera.
00:10:21
Speaker
Um, who else is kind of in your repertoire, whether at the pro level, the, the, the junior level or just like, who, like, who, who else is in your, your, your, your roster of goalies that, uh, that you do masks for?
Creative Freedom in Mask Design
00:10:34
Speaker
Yeah. Um, loud to say. Yeah, sure. Sure. Uh, Elvis was leaking. So if you saw his Elvis Presley one this year, I did that one. He also like, he gets like one done by me.
00:10:46
Speaker
And then, you know, well, he would get more done by me, but I'm too busy and too slow. So I can only fit so many guys in. This is really my biggest problem. I actually got reached out by like a lot of guys, maybe those I shouldn't mention since they didn't happen, but definitely could have had at least four other big names this year. But I, I'm so like, I'm still doing the NHL masks now we're over a quarter of the way into the season. and So guys are like, that's too late. Like I need it at the beginning. So.
00:11:13
Speaker
If I could you know clone myself, I guess I could get more, I could i could spread my wings a little further. But anyway, so yeah um Elvis and and Freddie Anderson from the Canes, as well as I did one for Montembeau this year. And that was kind of a part of that Apple project.
00:11:36
Speaker
You guys saw that. So the Apple project, they did it and I was painting marshmallows. That was going to be my only part in that project. But they were actually the ones who kind of hooked me up with Montembeau because they wanted more. They wanted more me in there basically. So they sort of like set it up so that I could get one more goalie and that's how I ended up painting for Montembeau.
00:12:01
Speaker
nice And those are all my those are all my NHL guys. And i mean that's that is basically it. I'm not doing too much other junior or whatever. All the other stuff that's in my lineup is kind of old. And thanks for your patience for all those guys who are still waiting for me because what's happened is I blew up a little bit and then got a bunch of NHL stuff.
00:12:23
Speaker
they unfortunately have to be budged in front of everything else. And then that has almost taken such a long ah time in such an amount of my year that I only barely got through a few more jobs and it was already NHL time again. This time it'll hopefully end a little bit more reasonably. I've only got one more mask to paint basically ah for the NHL and then I can get back to my like regular lineup.
00:12:49
Speaker
I also did get asked about a couple other like stadium series ones and stuff, but I still have too much to do by the time that that game comes up. Uh, I won't, I won't be able to do it. So like, for example, Mark, he asked me about the, uh, the nation's game there and I i couldn't do it. And, uh, yeah, a few other things like that. Basically just I'm too slow guys. It's my problem.
00:13:15
Speaker
Are you looking for, uh, something like taking on an apprentice type deal to try and expand a little bit or, uh, you just kind of roll with what you can do? I do, uh, actually have a helper and it does help a little bit, but he's, uh, he's part time and there's like the learning curve part of it as well. He's doing great and it it does help, but, uh, I don't know. I don't know. Cause the other problem with it is like, is it so much of it's me, you know, like people kind of want.
00:13:45
Speaker
me, I could go a little more, start offering maybe a little more generic or something paint jobs and have people under me take those on more heavily. But I think my sort of shtick is that I'm just doing the few crazy ones. And that's about all I can do. But it is it is a problem or is a little hard to expand when you know, you're kind of a one man business in that sense.
00:14:12
Speaker
Which kind of segues great into my next question.
Detailed Painting Process Explained
00:14:17
Speaker
Because i've I've known a few artists over the years online. And obviously, like they all have their different passions and their different kind of creativity um outlets there. When it comes to working with goalies and doing their masks, obviously, some goalies kind of have like their signature whatever you want to call it on their mask. Jake Autinger comes to mind with the otter um on his mask. um And obviously, every goalie will have their their different kind of you know ideas when it comes to how a mask is to be designed. um But how much artistic freedom do you get in designing said mask, um or in how much of the diet design is is driven by the goalie? Like you said, Kerry Price, if you want
00:15:10
Speaker
Kind of like a similar ish replica to the to the bio Skull mask, I think it was what it was. Yeah. Yeah, you know, so how much so how much of it is you how much of it is the goalie? Is it like 75 25 50 50 60 60 40 like what is it? Yeah, it it depends these days. I feel like people and they're they're giving me way more control like I felt like there was a time where people are I guess medium trusting with you, you know like you know but now it's like, I guess i maybe I proved myself enough that they're sort of like, yeah, just just roll with it. Basically, I need like a loose concept um and sometimes not even that. I could say like Markey and myself, we've worked together enough now. And when he got traded, he messaged me. They messaged me like right away, um the equipment manager for the flames and
00:16:07
Speaker
Marcia messaged me like that day that that news broke and I was like, oh wow, okay, they're they're really on it because he's going to go over there and have no masks, right? So he's going to need, ah you know, and i'm i'm ah you know I'm late sometimes, I'm slow. So I think they really wanted to make sure like, hey, you can't be late on this. You can't be showing up ah with, you know, wearing a flames mask or anything like that. So they got on it right away. and um He didn't have a concept yet. He's like I'm getting getting traded to the doubles like ah You got to paint some ass for me, and I was like okay. You got any ideas He was like not yet, and I'm like okay. I'll think of something you think of something We'll get back and then I went I like walk my dog, and I was thinking that's how I came up with the yeah The New Jersey devil like the Jersey devil rather than it being like a devil
00:16:57
Speaker
And I don't know that maybe has been done. I don't know the the history of all the New Jersey masks, but I was like, Oh, I don't, I don't picture seeing that. So that's kind of a cool concept where it's actually like this cryptid beast from the forest rather than, you know, a double head kind of a thing.
00:17:15
Speaker
So I told him that. I had the idea of the books. I kind of thought of like the Book of the Dead and then the pages could be flying out with illustrations on it. And then later that came to, you know, a more realistic depiction of the creature on the other side. And then he was just like, yeah, it's sick. Go with it.
00:17:31
Speaker
So that that was basically, this one basically was all on me. I'm not just trying to say that on a like, sometimes it's way different. And my customers, beer league guys will come with like exactly what they want. Sometimes people have like a little sketch drawn up of what they already want. um With Markey, it's been like, you know, we've been doing the big skulls pretty much for most of them, you know? And then he hit me with a curve ball with the Johnny Cash one. And I was like, whoa, okay, that I wasn't expecting that.
00:18:00
Speaker
But all right, sure. i can It was kind of good for me, too, because up until that point, basically all I've done in the NHL was big skulls. And it's like, you know, I'm not that typecast, but that's, you know, what I'm coming known for after first prices and then now all these market ones. So that was kind of good. I can show like, you know, portrait work and stuff like that.
00:18:22
Speaker
um And then, yeah, I don't know, man. Some of these guys have a little bit more to so to to demand or or to want. But yeah, they basically give me a lot more freedom now, man. Like a theme is all I really want. And then a lot of times I'll all design it and I'll like show them that design. And from there, they will kind of be like, I like this. I don't like that. Can we change can we change the color of anything?
00:18:50
Speaker
And, and, you know, I'd make those iterations and into, we're both happy and both stoked on it. Nice. Yeah. I will say, um, the Freddie Anderson Kane's one was definitely my personal favorite up until that Markie, uh, devil's one. And now I'm like, Ooh, I think that might've taken the cake.
00:19:11
Speaker
But as, uh, as Oilers fans too, um, that the knitted skull was really cool to see too, just kind of the, the combination of the two, two kind of types of art, I guess, or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I really liked that one too. And it's almost, uh, you know, the only word for a few games, cause they did wear it after the stadium series whenever they wore those jerseys, but, uh, definitely one that only got TV time, you know, a few times.
00:19:41
Speaker
So it's like a kind of a quick, like a flash in the pan that went a little bit. I forget about it sometimes, but definitely a really cool one. And then yeah, Brady's was awesome. And so I'm about to start working on his next one. I actually have to start working on the design right now. We're actually going to talk on the phone tomorrow about it a little further. ah He's been one who's come in with lots.
00:20:01
Speaker
Lots to say and lots of personalizations, even that massive you're talking about, there's a whole bunch of things in there that were like, just for him. And I was like, gonna do my video and tell every little thing about them. And he was like, Oh, no, like, I don't, those are like, just for me. And I was like, Oh, okay. Because I feel like those things are so cool. And everyone gets to find out about them. You know, like, there's so many things in it, like all the like,
00:20:26
Speaker
There's like an old language that you like rune, which like doesn't exist. I'm sure we didn't do it accurately. We did it like letter for letter for English, you know, but we like they're all they all mean something the compasses point to like, and you know, places in the world that like mean something like the numbers are like, uh,
00:20:45
Speaker
whatever that would be, like latitude, longitude, you know, they're like, everything in that mask like means something. But it's all kind of personal to him. So on the new one, we're going to do and it is something similar, it is going to be like a carved in stone looking kind of thing. But it'll all be different and have different meanings and different, you know, pictures throughout as well.
00:21:10
Speaker
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00:22:24
Speaker
right Um, like the knitted helmet with the little kind of stitches on the, uh, on the straps was awesome. And, um, even the stars on the Elvis one, like just those little touches that, uh, you know, kind of make it stand out. Those are really cool. But yeah, just, just talk us through, I guess, start to finish what it's, what your process is like when it comes to, uh, to, you know, design, paint, finish, all of that stuff.
00:22:52
Speaker
Right, yeah, sure, design as well. well First, I'll touch on the ah the straps in the cage because those were like um Yeah, that's are almost become like my signature. Other people are doing them now too. I like that though. It's kind of cool. It's like kind of, I don't want to say it. I mean, everyone's step it up a little bit, but like everyone's like, Oh man, we're doing cages now. You got different color cliffs and like, yeah, these things are cool. You know, I mean, I just think what happened is on one of them, it was like, I just don't want like white on it. Like, and also March was always wanting white cages. So he would wear like the red.
00:23:27
Speaker
skull about having a white cage on it. And I was like, ah, and then I painted the lava skull one. And I was like, dude, please let me paint this. Like, do not wear a white cage on this. And he was like, okay, buddy, you got a mask off the inside. So I got to go through all the trouble of when he looks out, he only sees white. But when you look in, you know, you can see it. So that actually is a super pain in the ass, but it is what it is. And it, that look is so cool. So, okay. When I get a mask, actually, you're right. Design happens before. Sometimes I'll design it.
00:23:57
Speaker
way before, right? Like I don't even have the mask yet. We got to know what's going on. Right now I'm falling behind because I'm working so much more wherever I got to design it and then get started. But ideally I'd have the design done. Like I just do all that on my iPad while I'm like sitting on the couch watching TV, I'm like doodling away. And then, you know, it doesn't take in cutting on any of my painting time, ideally. But yeah, I'll design it up and then get that approval, like I said. And then when I actually start, I get the mask.
00:24:27
Speaker
If it's a Pro's one, they kind of come like half prepped already, like they don't have like their gloss finish on them or anything. But either way, you know, sand them, prime base coat, and then they're like, you know, ready for the artwork. And if you've seen like those videos of mine, I generally, I almost always do it this way where I covered in this kind of paper tape stuff, and then I draw the design on it.
00:24:50
Speaker
cut out the different color sections and then I'll like peel it so they'll like peel off where like let's say the Johnny Cash is paint that entire portrait then put the cover back on put the tape back over top peel off the next section paint it all and it's really like you know just sections like that and then in the end when everything's painted I unmask everything and I have a lot of cleaning up edges to do so Where all that tape was, all those edges, there'll be little overlaps or it'll look kind of ugly or say you're doing a portrait of Johnny Cash again. Well, he's got hair, you know, you got to do these little kind of details so that the hair goes over the background. and There's a a good usually day or two of cleaning up all those details.
00:25:30
Speaker
And then I clear coat everything is a clear coated like automotive clear coat. So it's like the same as a car gets. Actually I use this one Tamco brand one, which I believe everybody uses and it's really strong. I switched to it and it was like wildly better than what I had done before. It was holding up really good. And anyway, i I clear it a few coats, let it dry, sand it, clear it again, let that dry and sand it and polish it.
00:25:58
Speaker
So that whole clearing thing is like a few days of work the way that I do it. um So that even all that is ah is a bit of a process, not even including you know all that artwork in the middle. um that's That's the process. It's not super easy for a DIY. It's a little bit more of the professional one. It's not just you know spray bombs and whatever. But um yeah, that is sort of like the best. I did have that automotive background coming into this, which I think A lot of guys that get into goalie mask painting were goalies and I was not. So yeah, my road to it's a little bit different, but it did come with um an automotive background, which I think helped a lot as far as knowing like the prep and the, you know, the prime and all that stuff. So, I mean,
00:26:50
Speaker
We know that you said already that you're falling behind. You have the devils and flyers reaching out to be like, hey, we're telling you now so we can prepare, so we can have this ready for buy extra or whatever. In a typical day for you, we'll call it, how long does a mask usually take? Like if you didn't have, let's say you didn't have any high-profile candidates like just some brand, just a beer leaguer, hey, asking, hey, would like to have a mask done up by you. ah what's what's you What's usually the timeline on that? And um I guess, subsequently to that, if you are working with Mark Strom or members Leakins or whoever it may be, what are what are the deadlines usually like when it comes to painting a mask? Yeah.
00:27:45
Speaker
um Well, the timeline is kind of the same for me because I was painting crazy ones for beer leaguers and whoever, right? Kids, a lot of them. And I paint them kind of the same effort either way.
00:28:00
Speaker
And now that's kind of also related to my cost, which has gotten pretty crazy the last a couple of years. just It's a bit of a supply and demand. It's not just supply and demand, it's like it's like how long I take. you know So basically, all the masks now seem to run me somewhere around 200 and 250 hours, and I get about one done a month.
00:28:21
Speaker
so that's ah A lot of hours and pretty slow. Well, that's a lot of hours condensed. I wouldn't say slow in that regard, but I say i'm a one mask a month is pretty bad ah ah compared to like you got to imagine what like Dave art must be putting out. I'm really good buddies with Dave Fried and I know he's he's putting out way more. He's growing a bit more of a team as well. That's obviously the way to do it is to have, you know, more people and and you can get through those jobs quicker.
Balancing Workload and Exploring Mask Wraps
00:28:52
Speaker
Um, but, but I know like they put a little bit more of like a time limit on how long they're spending. And I've just kind of decided to not do it that way. And, um, just only just do crazy ones. And sure, I'll only be able to paint like four or five for an NHL season, but my hopes are that they are like the craziest and best ones. And that's just sort of going to be my angle. And then.
00:29:17
Speaker
As far as like customers go, like beer leaguers, kids, ah that lineup, the the the timeline would be about the same, but the lineup is just crazy. Like the lineup's like over two years long. I'm not really trying to even take on anybody new. And maybe this is another thing we would segue into talking about at one point in time, but this is sort of what's led to me doing RAPS now. And RAPS is sort of going to be the future of what I'm doing for Everyone else, you know, like I will probably spend half my year doing NHL masks and then another half of the year designing and putting out more rap designs and so that the rap catalog can grow and grow. yeah And I want to be, you know, leading the leading that market eventually as well. Currently, I'm not at two designs, but they're both really cool.
00:30:10
Speaker
and you know I want to grow on that and not have them be just sort of both the wraps I have are sort of replicas without being replicas you know sort of knockoffs of my own NHL designs but I want to make new ones awesome ones interchangeable interchangeable colors I got big plans for it but I'm So basically with the NHL stuff right now, it just takes over. so yeah guess Sorry, Nathan. I suppose kind of similar in in the way to pad skins. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that, Jordan, and but essentially the kind of same idea where I know that certain companies will have like pre-cutouts of certain pad designs. I think Vaughn is one of them.
00:30:53
Speaker
Uh, one of the pad designs rather, I should say where it's basically kind of cut and paste type of deal. Custom cages does, uh, they're probably the leading kind of helmet wrap guys. So I imagine that it'd probably be similar to what they have to offer.
00:31:11
Speaker
but my but Yeah, see, and a little bit different still. So I know what you're talking about. So I believe what he that would they kind of sell a lot more or like kind of more for what what you guys are is the do-it-yourselfers, right? So you buy it, they ship you like the, and there's like two sides in the center.
00:31:29
Speaker
I don't know if I'm getting into that. At this point, we are the like, you send it to us, we wrap it. It's actually kind of a complicated wrapping process. So you're not doing it yourself. It's kind of not going to go over well. Kind of similar to car wraps, I suppose, in a sense. Exactly. what you're going for it is It is exactly like that. And I'm just wanting to get like, so the way that I have it now is it's just like a pre-made design. The lava skull, for example, is one of them.
00:31:54
Speaker
and Uh, but I've made it so you can like, we can add your logo, you can add your name, you can customize it. And each sort of customizable thing is like another little bit of an upcharge. And then, you know, once the whole design is, you know, agreed upon between you and I, you know, we print it, wrap it and send you your mask back. Uh, I'm sort of looking to do as the same as I sort of did in the painting world is to be the sort of upper echelon. So like my wraps are more expensive.
00:32:24
Speaker
But like the design and the detail that's gone into them ahead of time when I made the artwork is like top notch. And honestly, the wraps look so good. like They, in some ways, are better. like it Finish-wise, they're definitely the paint jobs are so much better. like The gloss finish and with the polishing and everything that I do is are so good. But some of the details are so sharp. I mean, these printers could print something super tiny. you know And like you you don't have overspray to contend with like when you're painting.
00:32:52
Speaker
so There's like, there's a lot of possibilities with it. And I've even on one of my wraps have where it's like matte and gloss, just like it's sort of a replica of the Carey Price one that we talked about to buy on the chemical skull. So in that paint job, all the metal and the sort of like glass that was supposed to like have brains behind it and the eyes and stuff are all glossy, but all the bone parts are matte. So that's the same way we do it. I get a printed matte and then I put like a vinyl cut gloss layer for all the like the lines up perfectly with all the sections and you know apply that to the wrap and then wrap the mask with it. So I'm like trying to do some more detailed and you know more involved things for like, you would not be like, oh, it's just a wrap. You'd see it and be like, whoa, it looks like as good as the paint job from anything more than three feet away.
00:33:43
Speaker
So now, so now I want to go down this rabbit hole because this is, this is intriguing now. Um, ah so, okay. Okay. So let's, let's talk about the wraps for a second. So I'm going to, I'm going to gather, I'm going to assume that you probably done some research on kind of like, what would wrapping a goalie mask be? And I imagine that it probably would be be.
00:34:07
Speaker
somewhat similar if not the same to wrapping a car um and then you were also talking about printers as well so like what like how like how much experimentation have you done with that and like is without I guess spoiling anything if you don't want to like how many prototypes do you have or um Just kind of how how did that all kind of come about discovering it's like if I move away from Painting not move away from painting but like if yeah move away from painting going into and Into the wraps like where how like how is that all how is that all come about? How is that? all Yeah, sure. I got I got I got that um basically what was happening is I'm too I'm too busy to be able to
00:34:54
Speaker
take on any work. And then I got all these like viral videos. So I get like, I get emails basically daily about people wanting paint jobs. Two things happen, they have no clue how expensive I'm going to be. And there's no way that they're waiting two years, right? So I'm just turning people away, just turning people away. And my wife took ah um like a um social media management kind of course.
00:35:21
Speaker
And in issues, I used my website as an example. And she was like, man, you you are just like turning customers away like crazy. It's like people go to all this effort. They go to your website. They sign up for email lists. She's like, nobody ever does that. you know They sign up for email lists. They go all the way down the rabbit hole. They send you an email. And you essentially ghost them. And I do ghost them sometimes, because they came to a point where like answering emails, it's always not going to work out.
00:35:48
Speaker
and it just ends up being a waste of time. So sorry to anyone who's emailed me and never heard back from me. It does happen. Now I try to be a little bit more on it, um but I can still kind of, you can kind of tell from the language in the email sometimes like this is not going to happen or whatever, you know. And then, and the other thing that was happening simultaneously is that other people are knocking off some of my designs. The lava skull is a great example of that. The flaming skull, cowboy skull, almost any of those iconic marquee ones.
00:36:19
Speaker
Um, other rap guys are doing them, other like, you know, painters are doing them. And I don't get too upset about that, especially the painter ones, cause whatever they're one offs and someone wants it done and I'm not going to do it. So I'm not too upset about it, but when it's like raps and they're like kind of replicating it and like, eh, I don't really love that. But I just gives me the idea. Well, if someone else is doing it and making money off of it. And it also.
00:36:47
Speaker
no offense to them, but they don't look very good. So I'm like, I could do this, I could do it better. You'd be getting it from the actual guy who designed it. like All of these things are like, I should probably do this. On top of that, a number of years ago, after I painted Price's Mask, a guy ah that runs ah Price's, um what would you call it, like his merchandising, yeah yeah got ahold of me and was like,
00:37:16
Speaker
you know, we want to make these wrap replicas of Price the Mask. And I actually worked with that guy that you mentioned, his custom cages. Yeah. Yeah, I actually worked with him a little bit on it on doing the sort of mock up for it. They're like, you know, this would be it. We did one and then the shape was all wrong. And then we did another one. And he had done some painting changes on it that I think were very good. And then I redid them. And then anyway, the whole thing fell apart.
00:37:45
Speaker
And then later when this all happened, I was like, man, I should do that. And and you know, my wife's taken this course at the time and she was like, you absolutely have to do this. You need to offer people something that they can buy for less money and less lineup and whatever, right? So she really pushed me into doing it and I did it, but I just started from scratch because I didn't really like the one that we had done before. And prototyping, man, I did several.
00:38:10
Speaker
I thought, oh, I'm just going to come up with it, and I'm going to put it out there, and I'll be able to do it. And I was like, oh, no. The first one I printed, it was like huge. I was like, oh, I figured that out all wrong. I thought I had it right. you know And, uh, dimensions, are even I've kind of made iterations as I go. The first one I did was off the carry price one, the biomechanical skull, and I did it and they have to like figure out the sections. Like you do like two halves and then cover that with a middle, you know, so those butt up with each other. So there's no bump underneath everything, you know, so they're nice and level. And then you put a, you put the top over top.
00:38:48
Speaker
And his paint job is kind of complicated. Like one side's like metal face, one side's like skull. So where do I make these seams? Where do I make it? So you try and incorporate the seam into it so you can't see it. You know, it's not like an obvious line just running down the middle. You'll never see it unless again, you're within that couple feet and you can actually like rub it and then you can feel it. And it basically just feels like a thickness of a tape edge, really. So it's pretty great. um But it took it took several.
00:39:16
Speaker
Uh, even I had it done and then I've done since four more generations of it, I have like what I call my one now is like gen four and I've kind of rebuilt how I apply it so that it can, uh, I dunno, it, ah it applies with better layering and, uh,
00:39:35
Speaker
um It just it's easier to like kind of lay out where the eyes go. like There's a problem with every mask is different there's holes in different places. If I do it a certain way, you know, and with intelligent design i can maybe go oh i can pull them up a little bit now my eyes aren't going to be hitting where the holes are so there's different things i have to consider that on my first iteration i didn't know that eric think about like how many the same wrap has to basically work for several different masks i have different sizes so it's about like
00:40:08
Speaker
There's about four different sizes of it and that will work. And then I just cataloged them like every time you get a different kind of mask, which one fits it. Okay, write that down an enemy, whatever, you know, like that fits this one and then go from there. And I use that template of the first one that I made to build in size the second one. And eventually I just want to have tons of me buying it. I thought I was going to put me putting out like different one a month, but it's just, I'm just so swamped.
00:40:33
Speaker
ah you know I've got the designs to to build for ah you know the NHL stuff. In that time, I designed one. and That's what's so good about the wraps. I designed one. I can sell you know an endless amount of them. I don't know how many will sell, but let's say I even sell 10 or 20 of them. ah you know That's going to go for like better than what one mask would cost. so It's worth my time to be designing wraps more so than it is to be doing, say, one customer of like a beer leaguer or something like that, right? And eventually, I would hopefully have enough cool designs that someone's like, I want something like this. Right now, I go, oh, do you want this skull or that skull? And they go, well, no, I didn't want a skull at all, right? So eventually, I would like, you know obviously, I'd have like tons. And it won't be exactly for you, but with you being a little like, put your logo in, put your name on, hopefully, there'd be something.
00:41:25
Speaker
enough for, you know, mostly everybody or everyone who can't afford thousands of dollars for a paint job, you know? So what I'm hearing is you have about 10 different models of helmets sitting in your garage or something. No, what happens is when the customer sends it in and it's one I haven't done yet, then I have to like.
00:41:45
Speaker
Then I have to resize it. I have to check on all these printouts that I've done, which size fits it best. Then that one will sort of go down as cataloged in. Now I got that kind because people have some different ones, some old ones, some rare ones. You get them every once in a while. Mostly everyone's got the Bowers, but there's definitely some rare ones come through there sometimes too.
00:42:11
Speaker
Yeah, fair enough. I do want to kind of dive into the social media and the content side of things, but first, um the last thing I kind of want to touch on with the paint, um because you mentioned like different iterations of the wraps and stuff, at least with those, you know, you can apply it. Oh, that didn't work. You can peel it off and redo it. But when it comes to the painting side of things,
00:42:40
Speaker
What happens if you do make a mistake? And like, I guess also how common is it that like, have you ever had kind of any like big colossal mistakes that you had to like go back and eat another four or five hours of your time to fix that? Yeah, sure. I have. Yeah. Basically, um,
00:43:01
Speaker
It's paint, so you can paint over it. Like that's, especially with the type of paint I'm working with, it goes on really thin when you're airbrushing, so everything's really thin. Worst case scenario, something messes up. You could even kind of like sand it a little smooth if you had to get rid of, say, edges or tape lines or something. And you could just, you know, base it white or whatever background color and paint over it. And it does happen, doesn't happen that much to me anymore. I do recall one,
00:43:30
Speaker
That was pretty bad, which was right. These things, though, I swear they happen. like I don't even get mad about it anymore. I just go, ah, now I got to fix that now, you know? But I was actually going to get interviewed for the news, local news, because I was painting Kerry Price's mask. So that was, again, the big deal one for me. And I'm kind of just doing a little bit more work before he gets there.
00:43:55
Speaker
And somehow out of my like airbrush, I don't know, didn't have a cap on, I don't know what, I dripped paint and went right down the side of the mask and went right all over like a whole like one metal jaw and all this stuff. And that paint is like, I use urethane-based paint, so it's got like, it's like thinner in it, right? So you can't, it's not like water-based, you wipe it off real quick. You wipe it off, you're just like,
00:44:17
Speaker
wiping thinner around, right? it's ah It's done. It's on there, you know, it's a problem. And that kind of sucked because he was like on his way and like minutes later, he like knocked on the door. So I was just like, man, please keep for the for the interview thinking you just like film only the one side of the mask because I was like, I don't have this ugly drip going down. But I also recall that like when I when I did go to fix it that it was like it was pretty lickety split. like I keep all my colors, I basically custom mix all my colors for each job. So I keep them in these like little tiny plastic cups and I got little lids on them and so I don't dry out. And I just i have all the colors there. and So we have all the colors pre-mixed. Imagine there's like one line going down where you can see what's on what color is on each side of it. You know you just kind of like sand it a little bit smooth, fix it up. I'm sure the touch up took me like half an hour.
00:45:09
Speaker
you know It could be worse if that happened on you know Elvis's, Elvis Presley mask, and it went right down Elvis's face and all the way down the shirt with all the sequins or whatever. like That'd be a nightmare. But you know depending on where it happens, everything's fixable.
00:45:26
Speaker
I mean, the worst thing I think you could have happen would be like adhesion problems. And I know like a lot of people trying to do things themselves that happens a lot. So you tape something up and you pull the tape off and it peels your paint off with it. And then you just, your forehead starts sweating because this is a nightmare now, you know? Um, I've just been through so many products and I've used, I've had those problems and I've worked them out that those don't really happen to me anymore. There's a little bit of,
00:45:53
Speaker
you know, people who are doing it themselves are probably buying like some spray balm things. Some spray cans are like enamel based enamels aren't meant to have like other colors go over top of them. They're just meant to be like sprayed and be shiny and be done. And then they'll paint on top of that and then they'll clear it and then it'll like wrinkle and they're like, what's going on? It's like, yeah, you got to really, you know, know the products. And I feel like the only time something a problem like that will happen to me now is when someone's like, can you do this?
00:46:23
Speaker
weird thing, can you use this glow in the dark neon paint that you're not used to? I'm like, okay, I'll try it. And that's something that could get me into trouble. But if I use my same systems I've been using now for, you know, and refined in over a decade of work, I don't really run into too many problems. Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough.
00:46:46
Speaker
gotcha. um Okay, so let's turn over then to um ah Suppose again, just kind of social media
Impact of Artwork Exposure and Social Media Strategies
00:46:58
Speaker
side writings as well as um Just kind of just media in general I was as you were chatting here earlier was saw the CTO saw i briefly saw the CTV news article of You doing Markey's mask. It was back in 22. I don't know. I don't have it up anymore. Yeah, not sure there so there's that and then you know, I
00:47:26
Speaker
as well as, you know, you, you, you turn on, you turn on the TV and then it's Columbus at Calgary. And then you have Ms. Leakins and Mark Stone. So you're both of your artworks kind of going head to head at each other there. So how does that feel? You know, being able to turn on an NHL game with a client that you've worked with and seeing your artwork there on display across North America and the world, however you want to put it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's great. I mean, I've said it many times. It's just like there's not many types of art in this world that you, you know, you get to have your art on display.
00:48:06
Speaker
every second day, basically, for the better part of a year for millions of people to see. like You can't kind of ask for better exposure than that as an artist. Even if you're doing amazing you know canvas work, it's you know it goes to someone's house, and it's it's going to only be seen by their close circle. So it's really good. And of course, then there's the social media aspect of it. Oh, also, I was going to say on that, it's been like kind of fun sometimes, especially with Calgary, because it's a home team.
00:48:37
Speaker
Markey's in Calgary, so ah you know we'd go to a bar or whatever, and it's like the first night Markey's gonna be wearing his new mask. and when I was on my buddies one time and every time they would show a shot of it, everyone was like helmet, helmet. And I know like the rest of the bar didn't really like know what was going on. But then eventually everyone was like, every time they'd show a close up of his mask, everyone was just like helmet, helmet. So it's like pretty awesome. Pretty great of my friends to do that. And also just like, no, it is great. it is great it's it's It's a pretty, pretty cool thing. And I mean, sometimes with the goalies, they they really like,
00:49:15
Speaker
They're just right on the mask for like like a minute straight sometimes and just looking shiny, looking sharp up there. so ah It's really, it's really cool. I probably take it a little bit for granted now after, you know, having it for a number of years, but it's actually really awesome. And I assume if one day in my art career, I go another direction with it, and I'm not being an NHL mess that I'll look back on that fondly or miss it or whatever, because it is a, it's pretty great thing.
00:49:46
Speaker
Um, Oh, I guess also social media. We're going to get into it. I was going to say, cause like you have about 142,000 followers on Instagram. Uh, I know Nathan's been stuck in your profile, probably across other social media platforms as well. there's So maybe I'll, I think Tik TOK you're getting close to 500,000.
00:50:05
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I'm nearing in on half a mil there. Yeah. Cause it's basically like goalie ASMR those videos. I love those. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I, I actually, I, I struggle to decide whether I should put them to music or not. the Elvis one was really great and made sense to put to Elvis music. The real problem I have is some of the videos are long and then they'll only give you like a minute of music. And if it goes over a minute, then I can't. And it's like, well, the other one's that music, this one doesn't. And I just, ah.
00:50:34
Speaker
And then I've also had like videos in the past, you know, get muted or they used to get pulled because there was music on them and music is just such a pain in the butt when it comes to, you know, social media, obviously like TikTok came in and then reels and everything with music is made it that way better, but it's still sometimes is a little bit challenging. So everything that's annoying about that is filming.
00:50:57
Speaker
Uh, when I know I have to use the audio is annoying. Uh, we do listen to music all day long or podcasts or, uh, or audio books, even I just crushed so much listening time because I'm working always and always listening to something. But I basically have it set up that, you know, once my phone turns on, the music turns off, uh, for, for the camera. So, but that can be annoying. Sorry. I know. Go ahead.
00:51:25
Speaker
I was just dead like me annoying and i also have like, it's, you know, winter in Canada. So the furnace will be going and I'd love to have it. So the furnace isn't running. So I try and heat it up before I start. It's a little too much. So every once in a while i go screw it and I just let the furnace run. But I think if I really want to get it to be very ASMR, I have to.
00:51:45
Speaker
have no other work happening, you know, and they'll be like, you know, my helper will be in there, he'll be working, and I'll be like, okay, moment of silence. We used to be like, car, and then you have to shut up with a game on, stupid little ah things to tell each other to shut up for a second.
00:52:02
Speaker
So Nathan, what I'm hearing is that the next time that Jordan posts a video, it's going to be DIY goalie podcast in the background. Yeah. um I'll just be listening to myself talk. Yeah. do well so that okay so Okay. So then the last part that I wanted to talk, that I wanted to ask about the social media side of things is, cause you kind of mentioned a little bit earlier in a podcast where you wanted to do a video talking about like the little little things when it comes to like on the mask but then markie shut that that
00:52:37
Speaker
um yeah okay sorry well makess me look i hate you here shout out bra ah shout out brad mcdonne um So I guess then like like if you are working on like an NHL mask is like you have image or you have videos right now of Marquis design um I'm going to probably assume then that you probably have to do get you do have forever get some kind of permission or some kind of green light from the the person at that that you're working on the mask for to be able to publish it even though it is your design and your artwork. I'm going to gather that there's probably maybe an NDA kind of somewhere in there. There's only like so much that you can kind of
00:53:22
Speaker
um showcase or is it kind of just like similar to to earlier when it comes to artistic design and artistic freedom is it kind of just hey do what do what you want Yeah, it's a little bit more do what I want just because they also just know I already do the videos. There's just been without there being contract signed or anything, there's been a little bit of like, hey, let's keep this one secret till the day I wear it. We did that with the knitted skull one for the stadium series. I didn't share anything about it. And that was just because, just because he asked, you know, there's no, uh, yeah, like I say, no strict policy or contract. However,
00:53:58
Speaker
With this ah Apple project that recently happened, there there was a little bit more of that. I don't know if you guys how closely you're following anything, but I so i started posting the Markstrom Drizzy Devil mask videos quite a long time ago, and then the Apple deal kind of went down, but I had already was in the middle of painting his mask.
00:54:22
Speaker
And they were like, hey, we we you know we don't want to show it till the iPad videos drop or whatever. right So ah that was fine with me. I pulled them. like It doesn't matter. Plus, the Apple thing was big, really cool deal. So ah you know I was kind of happy to do that. um But yeah, there was like three or four episodes of it up. And then I pulled them and then waited till way later and dropped them. So then the actual Elvis, the Elvis series ran before the Markstrom did.
00:54:50
Speaker
One did now, but the Marshall mask was actually painted first. And now that has actually caused a whole shift that I'm way behind on videos off to where I actually am painting in real life because I got to edit all these videos as well on top of like create the new designs on top of like paints for, you know, 10 hours freaking days.
00:55:13
Speaker
I actually have like just finished Marshroom's next mask, which maybe by the time this airs will have been seen, but you guys haven't seen anything about that yet. um And I still have to paint one for Freddie Anderson.
00:55:29
Speaker
I still have all the videos for Montembeau's mask. So right when this, this Markstrom series ends, I'm going to start the Montembeau ones and then I'm going to go onto this newest Markstrom one. And then by that I'll be done painting Freddy's mask and then I'll do his. I got a ton of content coming still because each one of those is like a series. I do the series videos now and each one of them it's like 10 plus episodes. So I got, I got months of content here that I gotta,
00:55:58
Speaker
still edit and put out, but but it's good. It's going like really good social media-wise. this While these series are running, i mean I'm just getting a steady climb in social media. Like you said that, it's at 142,000 now. Before I aired Elvis' video, it I think I was stuck at around 119 or something for like forever. I was just at 119 for so long. And then since I've started the series, it's gone up.
00:56:26
Speaker
whatever that is, you know twenty almost probably 25,000 pretty soon. um I wouldn't be surprised by the time I've done all these and NHL ones, I like hit like 200. If nothing then else, maybe something goes crazy and who knows. But just with the steady growth, my Instagram was telling me that I'm getting about 450 new subscribers every day, which is pretty wild. You know, from a time where it took like forever to get past 10,000, you know, like that first thousand even is so hard, you know.
00:56:57
Speaker
And then the 10 is hard, and then it's like it comes it comes easier the more it grows. The other thing about social media that ive that I've noticed that I finally kind of have now is that you see artists, like on artists on Instagram, they always have like a shtick, a niche, a niche, sorry, you know, there's always like, and they create this one kind of video over and over again. And I always felt like I i don't have that, like I'll be painting a gun stock the one day, I'll be doing a body paint, I'll be doing a motorcycle and it's like it's all different. you know But now it's sort of that I started doing these these almost like you say, smr ASMR series videos. ah That's sort of my niche now, I guess. you know And I just do that. I just film them and I release everything in a series. And then even when it's done, I release the long video.
00:57:48
Speaker
Which I thought that will do horrible on social media, you know? But they do really well somehow, like a 13 minute long video. just getting Just getting millions of views on TikTok. i was like I thought no one had attention spans for that. But yeah, they do pretty good. so That's worked out well for me, and I guess if there's other artists listening, yeah, definitely and put yourself out there and make videos and do all that kind of stuff because it's absolutely worked for me. if i If I wasn't putting myself up there, Carey Price never would have saw that first mask that would have springboarded me into NHL and all these other things would not have come from it either. you know so
00:58:27
Speaker
Yeah, I think it helps. Yeah, I think it helps having that big reveal just waiting at the end too to see like how it all looks. Yeah, that's yeah definitely why I watched the oldest one from start to finish because I'm like, oh, I got to see how this looks like fully. nice Yeah, am ah I sometimes think maybe they could they could be a little shorter, but it's like,
00:58:51
Speaker
Man, I'm really milking it for content, I guess. you know it's It's not really that, it's just how it it just how it goes. It's like I'm not planning X amount of episodes or anything. It's just sort of like, okay, I like prepped it, you know did all this. It's like we're working out to be about a minute in my edit. you know I can cut that down a little and it's like, oh, that's one episode. And then obviously like painting the one Elvis character, like well, that's one episode. you know So it sort of works itself out. Sometimes I try and crush. like the cage and the straps or and assembly all into like one or something like that. but ah yeah It's definitely a lot of content, ah you know ah but it's a month worth of work. like i mean Crushing a month worth of work into a one minute video is like you're not going to see any process. You're just going to get tiny little clips and then it's done, um which I may do that too, but you know for the more in-depth look, you know that's going to have about a 10 to 12 minute video, I guess.
00:59:46
Speaker
Yeah, so last one before we let you go. um I'm just curious like because I know obviously right now you're probably more hung up in the day to day and kind of what's working right now. um But I'm curious like because we did touch on it before.
01:00:04
Speaker
Would you ever down the road think of doing like a behind the mask kind of series, like a guy like Freddie Anderson? Cause to me, he seems quite reserved and like he likes to stay out of the media in general anyways, but as so a guy like him, it probably wouldn't work out, but.
01:00:22
Speaker
um I don't know how Marky and Elvis are in terms of their personalities, but do you think any of these guys might sit down with you and kind of like, you know, talk about the the inspiration behind the mask and kind of certain little details like that to to kind of put out for people? Smells like a new DIY series. so Yeah, I'll just call up Jacob Markstrom and ask him to come on the pole. Yeah, exactly. And see, and that I don't really want to do either. I don't really like to
01:00:54
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push the fact that I, you know, got those guys numbers or anything. I never want to be like really bothering them with anything outside of it. yeah I'd say if that was something that like, you know, Sportsnet or the and NHL or something wanted to do, that would be dope. And I'd love to be involved in it. But I don't think on my own, like I even if I'm just like, Hey, man, you think you could do like a reveal video, like, you know, or like unboxing for me like, you know, these guys don't want to do that. So I, ah you know, I try not to really bother them too much outside of business. Though I have ah like got to meet a few of them like recently and I come into Calgary and they're like, oh, it's you know, let's ah have a coffee or something like that. So that's been kind of cool. um But yeah, I really try not to, you know, cross the boundary on
01:01:44
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and what I can get away with from these guys. ah turning client privileges yeah Yeah. Awesome. Well, thanks for thanks for joining us again today. um It was a pleasure having you on.
Conclusion and Contact Information
01:01:58
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I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. and where Where can people find you? I'm sure there's lots of them that already are, but for those that don't know who you are yet, where can they find you and kind of you know start to see some of these videos in your process.
01:02:16
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Yeah, sure. I'm J-Bo Airbrush, that's J-B-O Airbrush, basically on all social medias on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and Facebook. And I guess if there was something where you wanted a little more close and personal, you could actually go to my website, which is jboairbrush.com and sign up for the newsletter. I don't really use and abuse it too much, but say, for example, if I do a new wrap design, I also am planning on, this is a little bit of a,
01:02:45
Speaker
early to discuss, but I'm planning on making a online course for how to paint well' just how to paint a goalie mask. That'll be one of them, but you know how to airbrush and you know paint a goalie mask, paint a shoes, paint whatever. I'm going to try and make some kind of online course. So that'll also come up ah more specifically on my email list. But other than that, you just want to watch some content anywhere on social media as jib or airbrush.
01:03:12
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and Well, Jordan, again, thank you very much for for coming on the pod today. i Much appreciated. Definitely looking forward to the finished process ah to the finished product of the of the New Jersey Devil Jigga Markstrom Max, as well as all future designs down along the road. We'd definitely love to have you back here on the pod.
01:03:31
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but be Maybe share a little bit of insight on some new masks coming up. Maybe, potentially, you could talk about it. No idea. Nathan's laughing at me. That's all right. We're going to cap it off here, though, everybody. Thank you so much for watching. If you are on the YouTube side of things, give us a like, give us a subscribe, share all across your favorite social media platforms. If you're listening on iHeartRadio, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts listening,
01:03:59
Speaker
Thank you very much. And again, same deal. Make sure that you share it with your friends all across your favorite social media platforms. And if you are listening to us for the first time, you should also follow as we love it to see it. In terms of our social media side of things, you can follow the DIY goalie across all social media platforms, the the at sign, the DIY goalie. If you are in the Edmonton area or traveling up to the Edmonton area for Christmas tournaments,
01:04:28
Speaker
what have you and you want to work with myself or Nathan Park or our amazing staff that we do have you can visit true north goaltending.com and you can book a facility session with us or we do also have session session packages there as well that people can book for as well. um In terms of the social media side of things you can follow us on instagram at YEG goalie coach because that's the only odd one out that we have for whatever reason across the rest of the social media platforms. However, you can follow us at truenotesgold.com. Jordan, Nathan, it's been a pleasure. Thank you very much for coming on. ah We'll see you guys next time. Make some saves. Yeah. Take care. Thanks, guys. Bye.