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NXT Takeover Recap AND Backlash Preview
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Phil, Marco, and guest co-host Mike Lanham discuss Io winning gold, Kross dominant performance, what to expect from the greatest match ever, and so much more!
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Transcript
Introduction and Show Setup
00:00:18
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It's definitely a big dude season new we got three big dudes here It's the chick Foley show Welcome in I am one of your hosts Phil genteel Here in the Jimmy's famous seafood studios here in beautiful Baltimore, Maryland. Welcome. Thank you guys for listening We have of course Marco Denton up in Boston. What's up Marco? Oh
00:00:41
Speaker
What's going on? What's going on out there? It's getting warm out. It is. We were just talking. I think it's two shower a day weather now, you know? Sometimes three. Oh man, that's a lot. I used to, every time I had a college roommate, he would shower. He was like a skinny, skinny like dude. He wasn't a fat dude. Shower like five times a day.
00:01:02
Speaker
that's literally literally you'd go to class like shower come at week on the morning shower I don't know what he was doing and subbing in for the lovely Sheena Phelps is the equally lovely Mike nice Lanham what's up Mike what's happening Bellis yeah I get that hot tag from Sheena I don't know if the
00:01:24
Speaker
the babyface or the future women's champion. Someone wasn't behaving today, I guess. You guys know Mike if you're a Patreon subscriber because he's done a lot of bonus episodes with yours truly and me and Marco doing the Raw episodes, but you can follow him on Twitter at Mike Lanham, L-A-N-H-A-M.
Pay-Per-View Event Rarity Discussion
00:01:44
Speaker
And I'm glad to have you, Mike. We have a lot to talk about tonight, guys, both in the ring. We had another pay-per-view. Three weeks in a row of pay-per-views, right? Is that what we're in right now? We just did two. Now we have a third one on Sunday with backlash. Has this ever happened before? I mean, there's times where it always feels like there's pay-per-view after pay-per-view, but this might be one of the first times in a while that, especially with everything going on, three weeks in a row that you have pay-per-views to discuss.
00:02:14
Speaker
Yeah, past and present, yeah. So we'll get into the prediction champion if Marco was able to be dethroned after in your house NXT TakeOver and then we will preview this weekend's WWE Backlash pay-per-view. We'll get into what happened on Raw and SmackDown.
00:02:31
Speaker
and NXT, AEW, Dynamite. Oh my God, just getting tired talking about all this stuff. Oh my God. Then we'll get into some figure news.
Audience Engagement & Support
00:02:40
Speaker
We have a ton of figure news. I have a bunch of new things that I purchased that my wife will get really mad at me about. So let's get started guys.
00:02:48
Speaker
Before we get into things, if you want to support our show, you can do that by going to ProWrestlingTease.com slash Chick Foley. We have a bunch of cool designs there. A lot of them done by our buddy Extra Cooler. And all of those are available at ProWrestlingTease.com slash Chick Foley. You can follow our show on Twitter at Chick Foley's show. It's the best way to stay in touch with us as we're
00:03:11
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Constantly interacting with you guys and hitting up any breaking news that happens in the figure world and Sheena is on Instagram at chick Foley Check her out there and our patreon. It's chick Foley show comm will take you take you to it starts at a dollar per month to get into our Facebook group and All of that that comes with it our monthly giveaways. We talked about the bonus episodes. We do some zoom hangouts some happy hours We've been doing all kinds of new stuff
00:03:40
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We printed up a bunch of stickers via our friends at StickerMule.com, and those are getting sent out to all of our midcard tier and higher Patreons. So we're doing a bunch of cool stuff, Mike. I don't know if we've ever talked about you about being in the group, but tell me what you, your experience, buying and trading and selling to people and just kind of every day interacting with people.
00:04:02
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, honestly, for me, that's probably the biggest part is just daily interactions. I mean, you've said it plenty of times that we probably interact with each other more than we interact with some of our family and our own personal friends around here. And sometimes we enjoy interacting with each other more than some of those people. So I have bought a few things off some people because I'm not as big of a collector or I only buy certain stuff. But I've definitely found
00:04:31
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plenty of items for people and shipped them out at that retail plus shipping. So yeah, it's just a lot more of the interactions, a lot of the watch along stuff, just kind of more friends to talk wrestling. And that's kind of what we're here for. For sure. And Marco, as Elite 76 and 77 start to hit stores in the next couple of weeks, we'll have 160 pairs of eyes looking for those and helping each other out.
00:04:58
Speaker
And like Mike said, you know, we just charge each other what it costs on the shelf plus shipping to help everybody avoid those eBay prices, man. Yeah, definitely. Definitely want to avoid those because if you're an Edward Bay shopper, you can get a little excessive, especially if you're looking for those like the feed figure right now. I think someone posted something where it's like 80 bucks when you can just literally go on like ringside or if someone bought an extra one, they can sell it to you for
00:05:25
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for a regular price as opposed to paying quadruple what it costs. It definitely helps out. I bought an extra one, so we'll be giving that away soon. So check it out. ChickFoliShow.com is where you can do that.
SmackDown Highlights and Sponsorship
00:05:38
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Let's get into... And it's also, you have here in the script, it's the one year anniversary of our Facebook group, which is insane to think it's been a year already.
00:05:46
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But yeah, I mean, I don't want to talk about it too much because, you know, everyone listening is probably already in it. But it's really the best way to support our show. It literally starts at $1 per month. So you can call it $0.99 if you want to. But yeah, we've had some people that have been there for the entire year, which is awesome. And it's just been growing. We're always trying to think of cool new stuff that we can do. We had our buddy Hastel Toy come in and do a live claim sale a couple of weeks ago, which was great. We spent some money there with him.
00:06:13
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So check it out. Let's get inside the squared circle guys. This is brought to our good friends at ringside collectibles Check them out. It's used code chick for 10% off of your order there The only place to go I've been I went to like three Walmart's this week just trying to find stuff We'll get to that later It was a shit show you couldn't go you had to go through like one special door There was a line to get in like it was a freaking Miami Club and
00:06:38
Speaker
And there was nothing on the pegs. It was empty. The place smelled like old cheese. Don't do that. Just stay at home, sit on your couch, order from ringside, wait for it to come to your doorstep, and then you're done. So let's get into SmackDown really quickly before we get into TakeOver from this weekend. SmackDown, another Lacey Evans, Sonya Deville match, which the same thing we saw next week. I guess they're going to continue that feud. But the biggest thing, new tag team champions, right?
00:07:08
Speaker
New women's tag team champions? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we had, uh, we have the, uh, the best friends, Bailey and Sasha new tag team champions for the, uh, for the women's division. So that was, that was actually kind of shocking. I didn't think they would take them off that soon. Um, especially on a smackdown. I thought they would probably wait till like backlash for that to happen, but, um, no, there must be, I mean, there's must be a story going. They have the iconics back to as well. Um, so you'll probably see them three just going back and forth and
00:07:38
Speaker
feeling that way, so yeah, that was pretty much a shocker. Bailey is, you know her new name, have you guys seen what she wants to be called now, now that she has two belts? Bailey two belts? I'm just saying. No, it's Bailey Dose Straps. Bailey Dose Straps? Yeah, she said don't call me Becky or Bailey two belts or whatever, she said Dose Straps or something else. Yeah, Bailey Dose Straps.
00:08:03
Speaker
still got that Karen haircut. I like that. But I'm wondering when they've been milking this out for so long, we want to just see Bailey versus Sasha. I guess they're going to maybe try to, you can't get to WrestleMania with this. I mean. Yeah. Well, I think kind of thought the same thing was going to happen with the
00:08:20
Speaker
with Nicky and Alexa there for the longest time and then they really made them into a true tag team there and they had a pretty good run with the title. So I don't know if this is your way of one of them is going to cost each other the tag titles and then that's where they get their one on one match.
00:08:35
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe you stretch it to SummerSlam and that's your payoff, but it'll be interesting to see where it goes since they can appear on any show. People say they love tag team wrestling, but you know what people love more? Seeing tag teams split up. People love, I love that shit.
00:08:52
Speaker
Don't you? That's like the best way to make like a feud, like instantly. If it's built well, yes. If it's done well. If you throw them through the barbershop window or something, yeah. So we'll see where that goes. The rest of this card was just, I mean, Miz and Morrison doing this comic, comic slap, slap knee crap with Braun. That's going to be, I'm not looking forward to back.
00:09:15
Speaker
I was looking forward to the last two paper views. I don't know how much I'm looking forward to backlash, but anything else from SmackDown we want to touch down before we get moving on? No.
00:09:30
Speaker
A.J. I guess. Yeah, it was that. I mean, that's I mean, they obviously are pretty high on him. And I've been a fan of him. I saw him wrestle in Evolve, you know, years ago. And I loved his gimmick in 205 Live. I think he has a ton of potential is just kind of like a, you know, a badass, like, you know, shoot style kind of guy. I mean, hopefully, hopefully this means leads to bigger things for him.
00:09:52
Speaker
Yeah, no, it looks good on his part and obviously anytime AJ puts people over and it just kind of makes the AJ Daniel Bryan thing a little bit deeper too for the story. So yeah, I like it. It's not as predictable as well. Styles is obviously going to win. So yeah, they did a good job with this.
00:10:09
Speaker
All right, let's get into NXT TakeOver.
NXT TakeOver Praise and Reviews
00:10:11
Speaker
Marco, I know you have the winner there, and I think I know who it's going to be because you were keeping me updated. Another thing we do with our Patreon subscribers during pay-per-views, we all jump onto Discord, which is a kind of a chat app, and we all kind of hang out and chat together in real time during pay-per-views, which is really fun. And you were keeping everybody updated. I did not see this first match. I saw the rest of the card. I had to put the kid to sleep.
00:10:36
Speaker
I keep forgetting that that pay-per-view start at seven but this six-woman tag team match I heard it's I heard it was pretty damn good way to start the start of the night
00:10:47
Speaker
first. Wait, wait, wait, wait. We can't. Sorry. We have to talk about the show started. We have to talk about this. I didn't see how the show started. We have to talk about the stage. Bravo to WWE for doing old school. I mean, and a lot of the stuff that was peppered into this show was great. But the in your house stage done, you know, they still did inside the performance center, but they made it look really well done, especially with the ring camera. I loved it. Yeah, especially with the they did all the
00:11:15
Speaker
the little nostalgia pieces in between with like Ico Pro, having Todd Patton go there. I guess the story was they were gonna have Doc, Doc Hendrix make a return, Michael Hayes, but.
00:11:27
Speaker
They he wouldn't cut his hair for the role. That's why they that's why Johnny Gargano later in the show did that nod to the photo. Why do you have to why would he have to cut it for like a five second thing? He could just tuck it in or something or. No, they want to go full Doc Hendricks. Oh, my God. That's how it's supposed to be. Like if you want to live the full nostalgia, you got to you have Todd Pentengill there. So yeah, you got to go. You got to get back in your role. But yeah, that's why they did that little nod to him with the with the pitcher. But yeah, the opening the opening match is really, really good.
00:11:56
Speaker
I enjoyed it all. I mean, all six of them are future stars in my book. There were hardly any botches or anything like that. They all look like stars.
00:12:07
Speaker
Again, I was right that the, uh, the good guys were going to prevail in that match. I just had a feeling that, uh, uh, my, um, was going to get, get kind of like a win over, uh, Candice LeRae at some point. Um, cause, uh, we prior, actually the couple of days prior, um, they had that one over the Garganos beat the, uh, the, what do we call them? The Yim Lees. Yeah. Yeah. The Yim Lees. Yeah. So I figured they're going to get, uh, they're going to get the win there, but.
00:12:35
Speaker
But yeah, opening match was really, really good. What'd you think, Mike? Yeah, Mike? Yeah, no, no. Great, great six-woman tag match. Like, to start the show, you've got good storylines kind of built around all six of them. I mean, Shotzi's kind of been hit or miss lately, but they've kind of added her to the mix, so...
00:12:52
Speaker
Uh, it kinda without having to do two or three separate matches, you threw everybody together. And yeah, even the first couple of minutes, just some of the back and forth, just the actual pure wrestling, uh, it was a good way to start the show. You don't get a lot of, uh, women's matches to start the show for them. So, and, and this is the first, uh, takeover they've had in a while, especially with the quarantine and everything going on. So they could have
00:13:16
Speaker
cheaply just put a house silhouette or something up on the screen. The fact they actually went all out and did the the original type design. So I think that pleased a lot of fans going right into the show. So bravo to them. Like you said, the nostalgia thing throughout the show really hit home, especially for for anyone that's probably older than twenty five thirty. Maybe not as much for the younger audience, but definitely made me laugh quite a few times during the night.
00:13:46
Speaker
Yeah, it was like it wasn't like stupid like humor. It was like cool. Like, you know, kind of like, you know, we get it. We're hardcore fans type of, you know, kind of little hidden. I mean, there was there was stupid stuff. Yes. Stupid stuff on purpose, like Pat and Gil, like throwing out the nine hundred number. Yeah, that was. I mean, there's no more nine hundred numbers, like just funny stuff like that. So it's like your dad telling a joke and then it like he's like, wait,
00:14:12
Speaker
That doesn't work anymore, so yeah, it was good. Whoever helped write that did a good job. A couple things about this match. I think Shotzi Blackheart is going to make a great lead figure. Me and Marco and our buddy Shane used to be a monthly article. Now it's been three weeks in a row where we each pick someone off of a pay-per-view where we want to see them made into an elite figure.
00:14:36
Speaker
one of you guys picked Shotzi or we should have. I think you or Shane did. Yeah, that was me. I picked Shotzi. I was like, yeah, I gotta go with her. With the tank and everything is pretty cool. And I do love that mediums finisher I think is called the Soul Food. S-O-L-E. That's very well good. I love puns. I love shitty puns like that.
00:14:57
Speaker
So yeah, I saw the rest of this card, so let's keep it moving. Finn Balor versus Damian Priest. This is a better match than I thought it was going to be. I think other people on the social media web had pretty high expectations for this. I was a little confused by Damian Priest's Brutus of Barber beefcake pants.
00:15:20
Speaker
That bump he took onto the stairs was very reminiscent of Shawn Michaels hitting the casket against the Undertaker that put him out for a while back in the 90s. So what'd you think of this match, Marco? I really liked it. I know people like Damian Priest, so he's not that great. But he's actually a really good performer in the ring, especially if you've seen his stuff before he became a WWE talent. He's really good.
00:15:50
Speaker
If he followed Triple H throughout Twitter that night, he was like basically saying, David preaches like a star. Like obviously he lost. He didn't, he didn't win the match.
00:16:00
Speaker
but his performance in the matches was telling enough where he is going to be a star. I know Mike Lanham says different on that, but I think he's kind of like the replacement of not replacing Roman Reigns, but he's at luck. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Not replacing him. I guess I'm about to say he's replacing him. Next big man in line. I'm going to say I'm going to say more of a Nakamura level person.
00:16:24
Speaker
Yeah, I mean like so I always equate like Damian Priest now is to like what Roman Reigns could be if he was a hail If they were to turn Roman Reigns a hail he would be Damian Priest Just like a no-nonsense like I'm gonna beat the crap out of you type dude He says he has the tattoos. He has a long hair the wet long hair which which we've met
00:16:44
Speaker
grown to know and love in the WWE.
Future of Damian Priest
00:16:47
Speaker
I think he's definitely going to get pushed a little bit further than what most people think, especially after the performance he had with Finn Balor. Yeah, the loss doesn't hurt Damian Priest because you expect Finn to win those kind of matches. Obviously, beating a guy like Finn is big for you.
00:17:05
Speaker
who at this point I feel like Finn might be going back to the main roster at some point. But it was a hard hitting match, plenty of big moves. I like that Damon Priest does the razor's edge. It's a good move for a big guy like that. But yeah, going forward, this probably helps Priest because you put on a good match. It's hard not to have a good match.
00:17:28
Speaker
with Finn Balor so and we've had this version of Finn Balor for however long so eventually he either gets moved back or we eventually see the demon again so yeah it was a good match I'm not a big priest fan obviously but as a big guy he can move and stuff but I just don't know that he's the whole package yet and we'll see what happens with him as going forward who they put him with in his next match so
00:17:54
Speaker
I think it would, and I think you're right, I think Finn Balor probably moves up sooner than later, but I think if you're wanting to build NXT as a third brand, and I guess Charlotte's done there, she kind of tweeted that after this match coming up, that she's probably done, Finn Balor's probably almost done, but I think you should really circle some of these people, I mean I would love to see
00:18:15
Speaker
Ricochet back down there, I'd love to see a lot of these guys Nakamura go back down. I mean, you say back down because for so long it was the developmental brand. But I think that's how you build NXT into a legit third brand, is have these people show up. And once Survivor Series rolls around, it's equal to Raw and SmackDown.
00:18:36
Speaker
And who knows? We could see NXT move to Mondays once Vince dies in like 40 years. Wouldn't that be like the main brand? Because some of these guys don't want to leave NXT. They see what happens when you do. So right now, I think they're definitely in good shape.
00:18:55
Speaker
It's when they leave and go to Raw or SmackDown is when bad things happen. But yeah, great match there.
Keith Lee vs. Johnny Gargano Analysis
00:19:01
Speaker
Let's move on to the third match of the night was NXT North American Championship between Keith Lee and Johnny Gargano. I am not feeling Johnny Gargano in this heel roll. I just feel like he's trying way too hard. I just feel like he, I mean,
00:19:16
Speaker
As good as Daniel Bryan was in that eco, you know, heel roll That the Captain Planet type of guy. I just don't think Gargano could pull it off He just you know, it doesn't I just think he's like the the lovable good guy underdog. So I don't know What do you guys think? I'm like base here. I Mean I see it both ways. I like him probably more as the face character It didn't make a lot of sense when they tried to do
00:19:44
Speaker
him with Champa, I guess is the bad guy. I kind of liked it more when, when Finn baller had turned on him and that was going on. So, um, I guess the Candace be like LeRae being part of it. Like I think she kind of works as a hill. I really didn't, I thought she would be the one that wasn't as believable, but it feels like you're like, you're right. It's kind of Gargano. It's a little less believable.
00:20:08
Speaker
And I don't know if that would if he moved to like a roll or smack down if that would work as well I feel like he has to be a face if he goes to a main roster where he can kind of get away with the hill thing on the on the NXT
00:20:23
Speaker
Yeah, it is good that they don't have the crowd there, Marcos, because Gorgano is so loved by, you know, those diehards at full sale. You know, there's nobody there. It's like, you know, it kind of makes a little more believable. What do you think of this match, Marco Keith Lee? I like the size difference. It was a cool kind of like, you know, different, you know, almost felt like a throwback to like a nineties WWE match with the, with the size difference between these two guys. Yeah. The difference is you have the, uh,
00:20:49
Speaker
with Keith Lee compared to like the guys back in the day. Keith Lee is like more athletic. He's like the most athletic big dude out there right now. And I kind of compare it to like when you give Brock Lesnar a smaller guy in the ring. He said it's gonna be magic. Like you go back to any match that he had with Raven Stereo, Eddie Guerrero, who else? Oh, Daniel Bryan, AJ Styles.
00:21:14
Speaker
All those matches he's had with those smaller guys are, were exceptionally well, maybe because he, he's a bigger dude. That's super athletic. Like it, like Keith Lee is, and they're able to like do the same moves almost as the smaller guys. So when they pull those type of things off, you're like, what the hell? But, um, yeah, I think Gargano was a perfect, like, like size for Keith Lee to go with. Cause you usually see what the bigger dudes, um, the match he had with Adam Cole wasn't bad either. Um, just to, just to go back to that, but, um, yeah, they had some awesome spots.
00:21:44
Speaker
as well, too, like, especially with the the crash into a plexiglass. Oh, that was cool. So like you get those like, obviously, he's a big dude. When you see Keith Lee step in the ring, you expect like him doing like flips and spin kicks and all these crazy things. But at the same time, he's a big guy. So you want to see him do like big guy moves just like that right there. So you kind of kind of takes you out of here. You're like, oh, crap, I forgot he's this big, giant guy that can like smash somebody through a wall if he needs to. Yeah. So, you know, I really enjoy this match.
00:22:14
Speaker
Three for three so far with the matches in your house.
00:22:18
Speaker
You weren't? That's how you were? No, no, just talk about it again in general. Just like the rating. Yeah, they started out really well on the show. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Oh, sorry, Mike. I just I know I just I love the I love the the super kick finish at the end. It was a cool, like a different way to end the match. The Gargano kind of like super kicking like four or five times. Keep getting two counts and getting pissed off. It was cool. Like before, before Lee won. What were you going to say, Mike? No, just just the big man gimmick like
00:22:47
Speaker
No, not really a gimmick just the fact that how well he moves like Marco was talking about Yeah, I like how guys like Vader and Yoko could move but like Bam Bam was doing like flips and moonsaults and just could get out of the way and I feel like Keith Lee is a little bit smaller than that and more agile, but I
00:23:12
Speaker
He's got the right personality, he's got a good look. I think we'll probably hopefully come back and talk about it here in a little bit when we talk about NXT this week, but I'm expecting Keith Lee to be maybe the guy going forward.
00:23:28
Speaker
I did love the Keith Lee outfit. I wrote about that in our article with the Black Lives Matter outfit. It was cool that they let him wear that. It's cool that wrestlers can now voice their opinions on stuff like that on such a large stage.
00:23:45
Speaker
So yeah, three for three on these first three matches. And the entire night took a turn from here for me, starting with this backlot brawl between Adam Cole and Velveteen Dream. We were talking about it in our chat. This was very reminiscent of the two matches from WrestleMania, the Boneyard match and the Firefly Funhouse match.
00:24:11
Speaker
And this one just did not hit all the fields for the cinematic kind of match.
Velveteen Dream vs. Adam Cole Assessment
00:24:18
Speaker
I do love how it started with Velveteen Dream walking down in the Negan outfit from Walking Dead. That was pretty cool. He always has a great entrance. But it just felt kind of corny. I just didn't really care. It was just kind of corny. I don't know about you guys. Yeah. The way it opened, you were like, oh, man, we're in for another
00:24:39
Speaker
graveyard or fun house type match like this is gonna be great and in the end I feel like they would have been better if it had just been a standard wrestling match because this is two of the most talented guys NXT has and you kind of just turned it into a I don't even know how you want to explain it wasn't really a wrestling match a lot of it just walking around the area and the environment and stuff like that it just it kind of reminded me of something you would do and
00:25:05
Speaker
on like the WWE wrestling games, like something to bridge two matches together. It's like a backlot brawl, which is what it was supposed to be. But like you had the right look and stuff, but it just didn't hit home. Didn't like really work out the way maybe they expected it to.
00:25:22
Speaker
Yeah, we saw a Dexter Loomis appearance coming out underneath the ring. That was a cool spot where they were pulling chairs from under the ring, and one gets pulled under the ring. They don't know what's under there, and then Dexter Loomis pops out looking creepy as hell. I am worried, not to sidetrack, but do you think Adam Cole, there's rumors Adam Cole was leaving after his contract ends to go to AEW? I think he would be stupid to do that. You don't think? You agree, Mike?
00:25:53
Speaker
Yeah, I don't, I don't think there's a chance he's going anywhere. That's good. Yeah. I mean, people are like, oh, his girlfriend works there. Like who works with their girlfriend? Like, you know, think about it. It's like a real job. Like, you know, oh, oh, you're about to leave and go work with your girlfriend. Like, no, I don't have to have the same job as my girlfriend. Stupid. Right. I mean, it would follow my with the Cody hiring friends type of thing. Is there? Oh, no, he would. He would jump on. Yeah. Oh, in his.
00:26:19
Speaker
And his size and stuff would probably work better on like an AWW because he has a smaller guy. But right now on NXT, they pair him with guys that are pretty equal to his size. And he's had the belt for a year. Like this is a guy that they obviously like and they push and stuff like that. And he's in the best faction they probably have in the company right now. There's no reason for him to leave.
00:26:44
Speaker
You never know. I mean, it's an indie guy. Maybe he wants to go do what feels more like an indie company. But I think he I think he can be. I don't want to say like the next Shawn Michaels, anything like that. I was going to talk about. But he has as high as his ceiling is now. Like I feel like there's another level to Adam Cole, depending on what they really want to do with him. And if they want to move him up. But I feel like he's perfect on the next team. He doesn't need to be on a roll or smack down.
00:27:12
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think he's going. I think maybe I don't think they would let him go anywhere personally. No, he's going to get paid whatever you want. If it's a money thing, he's going to get paid. Yeah. Yeah. And they're all in Florida too. So it's not like he's far away from his girlfriend. Yeah. They're in Jacksonville. He's in Tampa. She can sign with us. If she's worried about, she can sign with NXT. I think you're only working a few days of the week. It's not like you're working seven days a week currently. Yeah. Yeah. They're not traveling. Yeah.
00:27:38
Speaker
He would if he went to AW he'd instantly be the best talk the best guy on the mic that they have no doubt Oh, yeah, no doubt. I mean I'm not impressed with with Kenny Omega on the mic I'm not impressed with what I saw for the young box on Wednesday from on them on the mic I mean Cody Cody gives some really good fire promos But I mean Adam Cole's on another level like you said I think he know he's got another 10 15 years in him and really could be a
00:28:05
Speaker
And all these guys that are wrestling now grew up and we grew up and they, you know, who do you think they were? Where did they wanted to work? Like they grew up watching WWE and the attitude era or something. They want to be like, you know, alongside Shawn Michaels in the hall of fame, you know, like, of course. So, uh, so yeah, this was a pretty shit match. If you want to call it that. Ah,
00:28:25
Speaker
I'm really torn on Velveteen Dream. I like his gimmick. I like him. I like his promos. But when he is like swinging his fists, he looks like a giraffe on roller skates. And he is just like...
00:28:41
Speaker
I don't know if he's just like because his arms are like five, you know, ten feet long or something He just doesn't look I don't know if he doesn't look believable. We just doesn't like he's just like flailing around and This was just was not the kind of match that I would have thought he'd be good in and it wasn't, you know Yeah, I would I would have said he I mean you think cinematic you would think he would act like it this would have been like an excelling thing for for dream because the way he like moves and
00:29:10
Speaker
his entrances and his promos and all this and all the vignettes he used to do and stuff like that. So you think this would be something that would be like in his wheelhouse, but maybe not this type of match and maybe maybe something more like a Firefly Funhouse where there wasn't any like any type of action in it. He probably would have that probably would have suited him much better. But I don't know. I'm on the same boat with you. I like how ability dreamer these. He's awesome with the ring. I think he's awesome on the bike. All the tools and everything is just
00:29:40
Speaker
This match wasn't the. The match should be in for him right now anyway. Yeah, I mean he had the cinematic insurance in this match. They played that up. They did well. I don't know if he came up with that idea, wrote it or helped or whatever, but that worked well. But I feel like if he doesn't win the belt here, does he ever win the belt or is this like if he hadn't came out on NXT Wednesday?
00:30:06
Speaker
Like I'd like to have not seen him on TV for a few weeks. You're going to if you're going to move up riddle, this would have been the time to move up dream. Like I don't know if he if he survives on the main roster, if he becomes another guy that NXT star that just drops off. But this felt like the time if you need people on Raw and Smackdown, this has been a good time. He's a good character. He can wrestle. He has the right look. He's the right size to fight some of these guys.
00:30:34
Speaker
I feel like at this point you probably move him up but now you're going to put him in another match probably with undisputed era guys like that so he's just kind of stuck in limbo in my opinion.
00:30:46
Speaker
Yeah, the lighting sucked in this man. It was just like car headlights turned to like high beams, like bright, like in your eyes. And just the camera working, it just not was done. Not done as well as what we'd seen from WrestleMania. And they just did so well with those two WrestleMania matches. The bar set pretty high. And there just wasn't anything cinematic about this, you know? It was just kind of like, you know, these two women better in a wrestling match. What's that?
00:31:14
Speaker
But you want that monster truck for your collection, right? Oh, hell yeah. I want that, yeah. But we're just wasting money on stuff like that. I mean, they probably rented the sports car for Velveteen, but you pay money to paint or put logos and stuff on this truck for the Underspeeder there. It's like, why are we wasting this money? Wonder where that truck's going to. Or you have Becky's truck that you used. Why don't you just repaint that? She's not going to use it.
00:31:44
Speaker
Yeah, whatever. I mean, we're firing people and spending unnecessary money, but whatever. Tommaso Ciampa versus Carrying Cross. This went exactly as I thought it would. Awesome entrance from Carrying Cross. The real MVP of the show is Scarlett Bordeaux.
Karrion Kross's NXT TakeOver Victory
00:32:01
Speaker
I don't know if she's called Bordeaux anymore. I think it's just Scarlett, but the three of us were pretty much in agreement that she was the best thing that happened on this night.
00:32:11
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Without a doubt, definitely. Oh, yeah, that was I felt that one coming from deep down. I was. I'm a little surprised at how one side of the match was overall. But if you're going to like stick the rocket to the back of carrying across, this was the way to do it. You're putting him in a match with probably the biggest name in NXT, especially somebody that's not the champ right now.
00:32:42
Speaker
I don't think it hurts Champa losing this match, but it makes it makes Cross look unstoppable right now. We'll get to NXT in a little bit. Did they capitalize off of this on Wednesday with Cross, like made him like a bigger, do you have a bigger feel in the flow of the show? Yeah, pretty much. Well, yeah, we'll definitely get to that. But I want to say I was not surprised that they that he Steve rolled over to Maso Champa because that's what he's going to do. Any person he steps in the ring with, be it
00:33:12
Speaker
Title match. I know like I'm saving say he gets like a match with Keith Lee He's not gonna steamroll over him, but it's gonna he's gonna make it kind of like effortless See I feel Keith Lee is the only person on the roster that they might build to actually be able to beat cross Yeah, not currently. There's no one else in the NXT that I think you can say that
00:33:34
Speaker
maybe cross doesn't win this match and maybe, maybe that's it. Maybe cross becomes the world champion and that's who Keith Lee chases for six months, eight months, and then finally gets that win. Cause I don't, I don't think there's anybody else. Like I could have seen cross destroying like a face Gargano. Maybe you even have him beat a Finn baller, but I was surprised when Champa hasn't been used as much lately that you just let him steamrolling that much, but it's the perfect way to make cross look.
00:34:04
Speaker
like the monster that they want him to be because he's not going to talk. Scarlett's his manager, his mouthpiece. It'll be interesting to see where they go with it because there's not a lot of guys after you beat a guy like Champa, where do you really go?
00:34:20
Speaker
Cause anybody else, you're going to be like, well, if you beat Champa, he's going to beat this guy. Yeah. Easy. So yeah, he's not really going to have a match against the guy that you're just like, Oh, maybe he'll lose outside of Keith Lee. And even then I don't expect that for a while. Yeah. Um, yeah. I think just the modest like stuff that they give him the amount of time they give him on screen, the amount of videos, the amount of push that they give, I don't think.
00:34:45
Speaker
They're gonna have him lose at anyone. Well, we're limit or limit as matches like yeah If you want to have like the little vignettes or appearances, but he's not matches. That's fine cuz it stretches it out Yeah, but I don't I don't need to see him beat The no-name guy that's like an indie guy from Florida like they were doing there for a while Yeah, I don't I don't need any of that like
00:35:09
Speaker
Uh, you're better off either or doing something where Scarlett just comes out showing something on the screen or he's actually fighting a name. Don't waste having him beat no name, Billy Bob in 10 seconds. Oh yeah. I agree with that. You can't go back to that now. That's why after beating such a big final match of the night, Charlotte flair, the NXT women's champion against Rhea Ripley and Io Shirai, uh,
00:35:35
Speaker
I mean, this deserved to be the main event, obviously. I need to go back and rewatch this match. There were some pretty cool spots in it. Love seeing EO going off of the top of the house. What'd you guys think of this match? And then just let's talk about how it ended and what this means for the Women's Division NXT going
Io Shirai's Championship Win
00:35:56
Speaker
forward. You can start, Mike.
00:35:59
Speaker
Uh, it was the match of the night in my opinion. Uh, I think both of the women's matches were really good. Uh, the six women's tag to start. And then to, to end with this and when they, when they kind of, some of the weird, not so much weird camera angles, but the force camera angles, like they would show the house and they would show the window. I was like, man, they should throw, throw somebody through this window or somebody should jump off the top.
00:36:26
Speaker
of this this house and it did finally end up happening so yeah there was just some real well-built moments on it they did really good and you've got three extremely talented females in this match all three who can carry matches it'll be interesting to see what they do with Io Shirai as the world champion
00:36:49
Speaker
Because I don't know, I think as soon as you put her in a match with Rhea, everybody's going to expect Rhea to win the belt back and you don't want Rhea to take multiple losses. So maybe she fights somebody else first while Rhea's got another rivalry going. I don't know. Maybe Marco's got some ideas there, but
00:37:09
Speaker
Yeah, I just feel like you've got Dakota Kai and stuff like that. You've got some people you could put in the matches to kind of stretch this out so that it's not just title change after title change going forward. But if Charlotte's back permanently on Raw or SmackDown, whichever show she's on anymore, yeah, it'll be interesting to see what they do with the women's title going forward.
00:37:33
Speaker
It was a well done main event, Marco. I just feel like it was paced perfectly and they made all three of these ladies look really good. Charlotte Flair still not getting the... As much as we've had Charlotte Flair overload over the last couple months, she's been on all three shows every single week almost, it feels like.
00:37:54
Speaker
Uh, you know, she carries this match and I love the ending where, you know, she's got Rhea in the, uh, the figure four. And then we see Io Shirai off the top rope and kind of like, uh, you know, so you still have a little bit of a dusty finish there. Um, it did look like Io Shirai kind of like need Rhea Ripley right in the side of the head.
00:38:31
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's a
00:38:33
Speaker
It's kind of hard to with not having a not having fans in attendance to dictate who is a hail and who is a face nowadays. So yeah, I think I think she's just possibly just going to be neutral right now. Just like a just a fighting champion. You really can't. I mean, she doesn't have any like lingering feuds right now that I can off the top of my head, really just rear Ripley. But like you say, you can see like the Dakota Kai's stepping in. Candice Ray will probably step in at some point.
00:39:02
Speaker
Um, cause she's second, she's secondly, a hill to EO's face. If you want to say she's a face right now. So there's plenty of women that are in line for a title contention. I don't think Ria Ripley should automatically just get a title shot and take it off of her. And then you should, they shouldn't pace it out. Maybe till after summer slim. When it comes, when it comes to her title, right? I don't think that she just ripped the title off of EO right away. Cause I think she deserved it. I was actually surprised that she won. I picked Charlotte to retain.
00:39:32
Speaker
because I thought they were just going to keep the title on her and have her just fool it around to all three different brands and possibly just maybe take all the titles. That was why I came for Charlotte, because I have all three. Because it looked like they were doing that at some point. She'd show up on SmackDown and give Bayley something. She showed up on this past Monday and said that Asuka never beat me. So I thought she was just going to take Asuka's title, and then she's going to have the Raw and NXT, and then she's going to head over to SmackDown. Since Bayley is a tag champ now, she could take the title off of Bayley.
00:40:01
Speaker
That's what I thought was gonna happen, but obviously they didn't go that route and just have her just float around to all three different brands and be like that main champion. But yeah, I think Cheryl just, I personally think she's gonna end back up on raw.
00:40:17
Speaker
And I think Nia Jax is gonna take a leave of absence at some point. I think she's off TV after this. I don't think she's getting any more title shots in my opinion. I think Nia Jax is like done. Oh really? She hasn't been back all that long. Exactly. You haven't seen her on TV really as much either. Like she showed up at the end of last Monday. Like she didn't do any interviews. No pre-hype things before this Sunday or anything like that.
00:40:44
Speaker
I mean, I would be surprised if they don't swerve everybody and put the belt on Naya Jax, because I think it would piss so many people off. Oh, dude. But you also have a cheat. You have. Yeah, you have the opposite of that. Like when you get the heat, but then you get the fans that are just pissed that you gave the belt to Naya. But I feel like they could really build on that. But she doesn't have. No.
00:41:04
Speaker
the right personality as the world champion i think she would just kind of have to be just someone that just crushes people or takes them out she wouldn't so much be the person on the mic like a bailey or charlotte or becky or anybody like that so um did you guys catch when i get i think it must have been on in your house when charlotte came out they said she had been in 66 title matches and i was like that number seems astronomical
00:41:31
Speaker
But I guess between number of times she's won the title and then number of times she's defended or been in matches where she didn't win, it makes a little bit more sense. But it just seemed like a huge number that Charlotte and her short career has been in that many matches involving the title being on the line. But I guess between Raw, SmackDown, NXT, yeah, it adds up. It just seemed like such a big number for that quickly in her career.
00:41:57
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, she's still pretty relatively young. So yeah, that is crazy. I think you have to have a down period with her, kind of how you did with Roman, where he didn't have a belt for a year or two. Yeah. I don't know how you do that. I mean, the perfect thing would have been to have her in NXT and put people over, kind of like what Finn Balor is doing right now, but she came in and won the title. So we'll see. I hate to say this, and I wouldn't say this if Sheena was on the show, but I feel like
00:42:26
Speaker
I don't know where I'm going with this. Charlotte's boobs get bigger every time I see her. I don't know what's going on. I'm not complaining about this. But I just look at her, I'm like, go back and look at her from NXT. She looks completely different. Oh yeah, yeah. Completely different.
00:42:45
Speaker
There's been some time she's been out maybe she had some surgeries or had something changed out or fixed i mean that stuff's not permanent you have to have it done every so many years like burst right yeah right and then even on one of the the network specials like alexa bliss talks about having to have hers changed out like they're only.
00:43:05
Speaker
10 year shelf life or something like that on a certain one. So yeah, it wouldn't surprise me, but also just some of those tops are obviously very tight, very pushed up. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Well, if those old ones show up on eBay, I'm going to throw a bet on that. Go for more than the one, two, three kid, maybe.
00:43:25
Speaker
Yeah, there you go. Uh, I did, I did love wasn't, wasn't a match related, but, uh, seeing the, uh, the guys from DX trying to work like an old, uh, Intel Pentium 10 computer in the back, and they left freaking old as hell.
DX Nostalgia Segment
00:43:40
Speaker
Like, Oh my God, Sean Michaels and triple H Jesus.
00:43:43
Speaker
Yeah, so Michael still like typing with his chicken pecking with his with his index fingers. Yeah That was great. But yeah overall good a good card Cool ending. We'll see where they go from here and This is off topic. It's her NXT UK even still happening is are they still recording shows or doing anything? No, no, not even now. They canceled shows and
00:44:08
Speaker
They're not recording anything right now over there. It's crazy. I mean, they couldn't do something. I guess they couldn't do anything like what they're doing here. They don't have like an arena over there. They can just like use for free. I think they were. I think that it's a travel part of it. I think like they were. I don't think they have like a they'd have like a set crew over there, like a UK crew. I think they were like using the NXT guys to like fly over, do the shows and then fly back. But obviously you can't do that now because. Yeah.
00:44:37
Speaker
Can you and that's why i guess you don't have all of the pore on the show and you haven't seen walter and you haven't seen all four members of undisputed error all the time so yeah you got guys that just can't travel back and forth and i guess over in nxtuk some of those guys are
00:44:58
Speaker
right there in like London and stuff like that. And some of those guys might be in Ireland or wherever. You still have some travel restrictions probably within that area. So yeah, I'm sure it's limiting stuff. And like I said, they don't have their own arena, even if they're using the same one over and over. Yeah. You probably have stuff that's keeping it from, from being a weekly show like they probably were doing. All right. Uh, who, so who's the, who's the new predictions champion, Marco?
00:45:30
Speaker
Technically, it's well, so we so be you had a drop. We were both four and two So by default I keep the title because it's a draw. So yeah, we are dead accurate on our picks, which is pretty insane I think she'd have got like one or two. She said cuz she was on that was keeping score She was two and four and you guys were four and two. I think that's what you said in the chat Yeah, I mean you guys you guys Todd is Sheena just take the bill. I
00:45:58
Speaker
No, it doesn't work like that. I don't think so. I don't know. I don't know. It's I mean, it's her show. She can definitely. Yeah. I'm the champ now. Yeah. Technically, I technically I won because I had the most wins, but I don't get the belt. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You guys can share the belt. Yeah. There you go.
00:46:15
Speaker
Let's move over to Raw. This is a go-home show here for Backlast, which we will get to shortly. Really good. I did not watch any of these shows, Monday or Wednesday, full disclosure, but Mike and Marco did. Last night I texted you guys. I got Raw, SmackDown, NXT, and Dynamite to watch tonight. So it's going to be a long night. And I put on Schitt's Creek and fell right asleep.
00:46:42
Speaker
So yeah, it's funny show though. Um, but I did, I did see the, uh, the clips of the promos from Orton edge and Christian, which were really good. And, uh, you know, I, I was never a huge Christian fan, but I, I feel like he needs to be more involved in this feud now going forward. Um, obviously they have a match of backlash. What, what, uh, talk about that Marco and just what else happened on raw that stuck out to you.
00:47:08
Speaker
Um, I th I would assume this is like a blow off match. I think it was like, hopefully the end of it. Um, since it's calling it the greatest wrestling match ever. Um, I'm assuming this is going to be the last match that they have. And, um, I would assume edge is probably going to move on to someone else. There's going to try to face him at some point. Um, but yeah, no, they, that segment that they had where our Christian was giving him, like, you know, that doubt, like, I don't think you could do it. You don't have that in you anymore. Him being like the close friend of edge.
00:47:38
Speaker
Like he wasn't doing it. You're not sure, Christian, if you've seen him in the past, like you're not sure if he's like he was serious about it or he was actually just being a friend. Yeah. But yeah, that was really awesome. I like the fact that they did that. And then, you know, Randy comes up on the screen and kind of reiterates what Christian says. He's basically said he's in a break edge at at backlash. So it actually went up and looked at that. Actually, the story history with they only they've only had one technically one one on one match.
00:48:09
Speaker
before this. Every other match that they have is either like a, well, just like in general, just like a, like for pay per views. We'll say that pay per view matches are either like four ways or survivor series or tag matches. So this is actually pretty cool that they're actually this age actually doing it. Um,
00:48:28
Speaker
That didn't really stuck out besides the, you know, my predictions of Dominic is coming to fruition probably next week or actually this upcoming Monday. With, you know, I think he's going to show up on Monday, Ray Mysterio and confront Seth Rollins and I'm assuming Dominic's going to be there. They alluded to that, that he's going to show up and try to make Seth Rollins pay.
00:48:54
Speaker
that's what our greatest series I do like his new mask with the one like with the eye patch elbows covering he should actually keep that I would agree with you except Seth Rollins said on raw talk last week or this week that he was that he would love to have Dominic in his like group like
00:49:13
Speaker
Yeah. That's what I mean. Yeah. Like why? Why? Like, okay, just say that and then do it. Yeah. I'm just going to say that and just do it like this. She's going to kill like, well, you gotta, you gotta play it off. Like he's not going to do it. And then yeah, raise, raise, raise his dad's arm and then clothesline his dad. Yeah.
00:49:30
Speaker
Yeah, because he's been put to think of what Domics been going through since like he's been little like what what? What's it been going? Eddie, Eddie, Eddie grows his dad, like, you know, beat up by Dominic. You watch Dominic. I mean, I get a trio fight. That's awful. Oh, my God. Yeah, I hope that is. Please don't please don't make that a match. But, yeah, let's just like.
00:49:50
Speaker
Suplex City, like, come on, dad. Look what you put me through. He's been living in his dad's shadow, but his shadow is pretty small. So that is true. Hey, oh. Other than that, the decathlon. Oh, yeah. We have to talk about that. Yeah. No, we don't. That was bad. I want to touch that because I don't I don't want to. It's the arrow, the arrow. I was I was out after the arrow.
00:50:18
Speaker
when he shot the arrow wrong and the guy was like it wasn't even in his leg he was like holding it off to the side like it wasn't like actually in it it was like you could see like it wasn't in his leg not that I wanted to see an arrow stuck in a dude's leg but it's WWE like billions of dollars they couldn't get a special effects guy to like
00:50:34
Speaker
make it look like it was in his pant leg or something. Like after that, I was done. I didn't even. This has been going on for 10 weeks, Marco, 10 weeks. What's the, what are we doing here? They're, they're tied, right? So it's the title five. All right. Like he's a wrestling match with the title match, which all four can wrestle and they should put on a good match. But this, I get like it's a time filler. It's less you have to have going on, especially if you're,
00:51:02
Speaker
Taping most of raw before it airs and editing and stuff, but just it's unnecessary I guess it gets like humor added to the show when it's something that's not in the ring and you don't have to worry about not having a crowd and stuff, but It's too much like I get it. I don't I don't like Yeah, it just it needs the end of the match and be one match and then they don't need to have a
00:51:29
Speaker
a rematch anytime soon so decide if you want to leave the belt on the street profits or if you want to give the Viking Raiders another run but I don't really know what you do with the street profits if they're not the champs right now because other than that they're just backstage humor
00:51:45
Speaker
Before I move on did was there anything on Raw about the the the world champion and Talking about his match with Lashley. I don't see any talk of that here Yes, they did the uh, the they had uh the peep then at the peep show the the VIP lounge again Yeah, there was a match and uh
00:52:14
Speaker
Well, they had the VIP lounge because didn't like didn't McIntyre come out and that's where like street profits and the Viking Raiders got involved in. Oh, yeah, that's why. Yeah, that's why. Yeah, there was all of a sudden they went from from bowling or whatever the hell they were doing to everybody being part of a match. Yeah, they convoluted the kind of like Bobby Lashley. They didn't focus on that too much. They just had the Viking Raiders come out and support McIntyre as well as the profits come out and support and
00:52:44
Speaker
They just got squashed by Lashley and pretty much all of them like like that. That's what I didn't get to. Like I would say they want to put Lashley over this like big monster, but he legit just destroyed the Viking Raiders and the the profits. So like now they have a like a tag title match or like these four guys easily got squashed by one guy. Why am I invested in this tag team title match, which is like I said, eventually going to happen. That's going to be the blow off match. But yeah, that's why I didn't put it on there.
00:53:14
Speaker
But it's not. It's not at the pay per view, so like are they going to? I guess everything else has happened on Raw, so we're just going to have the tag title match on Raw. Yes. Yeah, and then we'll talk about the news later with.
00:53:29
Speaker
with the movements in the writing and producing of both shows. Oh my god, yeah. Let's recover. Let's get into AEW Dynamite, FTR, formerly known as The Revival, Dax Harwood, and what is it? Is it Dax Harwood? Dax? Dax Harwood and Dash Beachwood?
00:53:51
Speaker
Gash, rash, rash, groin, wood, crash, bandicoot, lash, morning wood, lash, last, last one. How about, how about splash water world? I like, I like rash, groin, wood or splash water world the best. And the names are no worse than butcher and the blade.
00:54:20
Speaker
Yeah, they're just, there's WWE guys here now, so now you're jobbers. Oh, great. Cool. That's the only match I saw, but it actually wasn't a bad match. The ending was a little off. They were trying to hit all their moves and stuff. So there was a little bit of
00:54:40
Speaker
maybe first match jitters and stuff like that or maybe just the way they tried to like edit it and stuff like that. But yeah, I mean a good first showing you put them in a match with an actual good tag team because they could have just thrown two guys together and have them beat them. So it was a good back and forth match.
00:54:59
Speaker
What do you guys think about, and I guess we have the Fire Fest is next week, the next two weeks on Dynamite. Is that right? Is it called Fire Fest? Moxley is like, they're bringing these guys in, you bring in Lance Archer, you bring in Brian Cage. I don't think Moxley's gonna lose the belt to Brian Cage, but what's the benefit of bringing a new guy in just to have the champion beat them?
00:55:26
Speaker
Like I like, you know, the, the carrying cross thing is what you should be doing is like building them up, making them look like badasses. And then, you know, six months later you get a shot at the title. Am I, am I wrong? Is that like old, like old school wrestling way to do it? No, no, you're right. I think that's the right way to do it. Um, but it looks like they're banding, abandoning the,
00:55:50
Speaker
the stats or the ranking system that they have there. He won the poker chip. He gets whatever he wants. Oh, that's right. He got that big poker, that big styrofoam poker chip. It is his title shot. Now, it's also AEW. So I feel like if Moxley was fighting Jake Hager or somebody he's already fought before, then we'd be giving them shit. So you've got to let him fight the new guy in town. But obviously, like you said, if Moxley goes over, then
00:56:19
Speaker
It makes Brian Cage look bad. It makes Lance Archer look bad stuff like that. Like these guys losing early on, but yeah, you're not, I don't think you're taking the belt off Moxley anytime soon. So. No, I don't think so either. Yeah. Um, anything else on this card that we should talk about that stood out? Jericho on commentary is the best thing AWW has right now next to, uh, uh, Oh,
00:56:48
Speaker
the Rose Royce and Britt Baker, like they can keep her around during her, her whole injury. If they can keep her around and talking, it's great. But yeah, I mean, just another AW show that they're just kind of building towards this two week. We don't want to call it a pay per view, but that's basically what it is. Yeah. Because I think I think that I want to say they said during the show, every title is being defended over two weeks. I mean, obviously they only have
00:57:16
Speaker
three titles, three titles in the tag title. So, yeah, Cody Sheeda. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The tag titles in the world titles in the world title. Yeah. Don't forget that it ended in a brawl. I was just about to ask that Marco because I didn't see it. I want to know. Of course it did. No, it ended in a big brawl. Everyone's fighting. What's thunder on Thursday? Good night. Yeah, it's legit. Just
00:57:44
Speaker
It was it was a was a brandy on the show and for no reason at all. That's another that's the other AW Yeah, bingo card. Yeah, she was yeah, cuz I had that QT Marshall. Oh, that's I can't I saw that part so I can't even yeah, so she was stable that is Was it her Dustin that basically told Ally she wasn't allowed at ringside next week? Oh
00:58:09
Speaker
Did you catch that? Yeah. She told one of them that somebody said something about she's not allowed out there. But then like when they showed the promo, they were like with Brandy and Ali. So but like Cody's doing a good job putting guys over like in this U.S. or this title. Like he points one of one of private party makes him look really good. Like I said, Jericho was great on the mic.
00:58:39
Speaker
Sammy Guevara looked great against Colt Cabana. Like it'll be interesting to see how they push Sammy, because it seems like they're trying to pretend he's going to leave the inner circle. But obviously that's not going to happen. Yeah. And then Colt Cabana with the the inner circle, whatever they want to do with that. But but like Marco mentioned, they did. It did basically end in a brawl at the end of the show with everybody rushing the ring.
00:59:09
Speaker
A.W. Bus brawl at the end, whatever you do. Guys, what is this in the bottom of my beer? That that is a. Is that mold? That looks like it. It looks like a fucking Petri dish, dude. Is that a is that your cup or is that? No, no, no. This is not my cup. This is a clean cup. There's like. Oh, those might be hops, like the actual hops from IPA. Maybe. Maybe it's not moving. So yeah, it might be the hops. Yeah, it's pretty.
00:59:38
Speaker
Sweet. Okay. We're on Skype now guys. We're doing a live video. We're trying to figure out a way so you guys can watch us record the show for some of our Patreon subscribers. So we're trying things out in the next couple of weeks. Let's touch quickly on NXT in like 30 seconds or less.
00:59:57
Speaker
Yeah, so the Garganos and Yblie had a match and the Garganos won. Finn Balor got his redemption against Cameron Grimes because Cameron Grimes beat him before I think like a couple weeks prior. What else? Oh yeah, Phantasma revealed himself as a
01:00:18
Speaker
It was a Santos Escobar. I like that, though. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Three of the guys unmasking and because we don't need another luchador. So and and he's the champion. So it worked out well with the Drake, Drake Maverick thing and stuff like that. It's worth going back and watching what happened. He took his mask off. But basically so like the two guys that had been like trying to kidnap him and stuff over the last few weeks or interfere, they ended up being with him. They beat the crap out of.
01:00:47
Speaker
Drake Maverick and then all three of them took off their mask and revealed new new character names or whatever. So basically just this guy's whatever Escobar his real name was and then they beat the crap out of Drake Maverick after he kind of said he deserved another shot at the title because the pressure was off that he didn't have to win his his like contract. He now has one. So
01:01:14
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. If you watch an interview he did with BT Sport, Drake Maverick. You saw like that whole moment when he actually like lost the tournament and everything like that. And he thought that was his last match. That was like it. He was like, yep. He was like, so they gave me three. He's like, basically those three matches were his tryout, like his last like three matches. Like you take those three opportunities and he's like, they're going to keep me or they're just going to send me on my way. He's like, and that's pretty much how it was going to go.
01:01:43
Speaker
He's like, and that's what it was. That's what it was told to me. It was basically like, yeah, here's your, here's your three matches. Um, he was like, they gave you the first match. He's like, I want it. And then I was like, Oh, okay. I mean, I'm on to the next match. Second matches that happened to, he was like, no way I'm going to go over the third one. Did it in the third. So he was like, Oh, I must be like doing something there. I must be doing something that they like must be proven myself. So when they put him in that third match and then he did, they obviously did win. Um, yeah, he said he had no clue that contract was.
01:02:10
Speaker
was covered his way, which he's super surprised about. That's cool. Um, but, uh, yeah, he's, he, I think he deserved it anyway. Um, so that last but not least Dexter Loomis versus Adam Cole, non-title match though. Oh man. Adam Cole goes over wins. But for a non-title match, you think Loomis probably would have won, but yeah, of course. Right. But like you're kind of parent, you're kind of semi pushing this big guy. And then you have him lose to Adam Cole, which is great for, for building Cole.
01:02:41
Speaker
and then you have this moment where Velveteen comes out and Loomis is involved and then the rest of undisputed era and everybody kind of runs off and then Adam Cole's just standing in the ring alone and and the lights go out and then we get Scarlett by herself she comes to the ring with the the sands hourglass and basically just flips it over and
01:03:07
Speaker
basically just signifies that the time is ticking on Adam Cole's reign as the champion. So like we said earlier, this is, I don't know how soon we're going to get it, but we're basically putting, carrying cross in the world title match. And obviously this guy's the next champion. Um,
01:03:31
Speaker
I'm
01:03:51
Speaker
a demon Finn Balor, maybe the only other option you have. You can go do an Oscar thing and just have every link of shit and just have like a crazy killer like when he just dominates big guys and former champions in like 30 seconds or five minutes or whatever. But he's going to eventually have to put on actual like bowling wrestling matches. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I just definitely I don't know who he goes back and forth with after he wins the belt. So.
01:04:23
Speaker
It'll be interesting. So let's get into backlash on Sunday. Marco is the champion. Mike is going to sub in for Sheena. Let's do these rapid fire here because this is not the card I want to spend a ton of time on and we've already.
01:04:41
Speaker
Hit the hour mark here. Let's, uh, let's start off with probably the opening matchup. One of my favorite wrestlers, Seamus versus Jeff Hardy and a, uh, revenge for pretending you killed someone with your car match. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. We've seen it a thousand times in wrestling.
01:05:00
Speaker
I'm going Jeff Hardy here. I'll start off and we'll we'll rotate Mr. Redemption for Jeff Hardy. They probably have plans for him to be I don't know a challenger for I Don't know why I don't know what you do with him going forward here But I mean it'd be nice for him to put both me that's for both these guys to be putting over some Young talent instead of fighting each other in a match from like 2005 You want to go make Yeah, I'll go
01:05:32
Speaker
I'm not a big Jeff Hardy guy, so I'm going to assume Seamus needs a win here. I think if you want to push him at all. So I don't think it hurts Jeff Hardy to lose, even though they're kind of making him look bad on TV. But I think a loss for Seamus really kills any momentum he might have. So I'm going to go with Seamus. Yeah, that's a tough one. You can go either way because you both have something to like
01:06:01
Speaker
look forward to after if they if they win the match uh i'm gonna go with jeff i'll go with jeff jeff hardy okay all right uh edge versus well now let's say that's the main event right
01:06:17
Speaker
It has to be. This is the greatest show. You can't have either world title match in this show. Oh yeah, no. No, I can't believe there's, let's do the universal. Braun Strowman versus John Morrison and the Miz. Marco, you start first with this one. I think Braun retains, unless they do something wacky and Miz and Morrison become co-universal champions, which could happen.
01:06:45
Speaker
But I'm gonna go with Braun Strowman. He just won it. I don't think they're taking that title off. I think they're waiting for a formidable opponent to come his way to actually take the title off of him. Yeah, so Braun Strowman on that one. I'll go Braun Strowman as well, Mike. Yeah, I gotta agree. As much as I want to see another Miz title run, it's not like this. And it might be the only way Morris never wins one. But yeah, I'll go with Braun. It might only be a three-minute match.
01:07:14
Speaker
Here's a question. Does brawn pin both of them at the same time stacked on top of each other? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That are that are one of them runs off scared and the other one just gets trapped in the ring. Oh, yeah. Like, oh, shit. Well, I don't know if they even have to feud so much as sorry, man. I'm not getting my ass kicked. I'm sorry. I left you in the ring.
01:07:36
Speaker
True. Um, let's go with, uh, let's do the other world title match. McIntyre versus Bobby Lashley. Mike, you can start on this one. Yeah, you're not taking the belt off McIntyre yet, my opinion. So I, I just don't see Lashley as champion personally. So I'll go with McIntyre. Um, Marco. Um, yeah, it seems to like short of a, uh,
01:08:02
Speaker
of like a feud, so definitely Drew's keeping it. I'm this is like this might be one of the worst pay-per-view cards. It seems too predictable, but. Something has to happen, right? I mean, unless like Lana somehow helps Lashley win. But then like is is does does Lashley immediately lose it back to him in a rematch like I just.
01:08:30
Speaker
I just can't see Lashley winning. So here's my weird thing. That's a lot of title matches. Someone has to lose their title. I don't think everyone's retaining. Has that ever happened where like there was all these titles on a pay review card and then everyone retained. So someone's going to lose that. I'm just not sure who it might be Oscar. You guys might be right.
01:08:57
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, of all the champions, I don't see, we got five championship matches here. Five of the seven are, hopefully this is another two and a half hours title match. We have six if you count the, the U S title, right? Oh no. What the two world titles, the women's title, the tag team title, the women's tag title, women's tag title. Yeah. Cause Bailey's not defending her title, but the tag title, U S U S title, women's tag title.
01:09:26
Speaker
Okay, it is bad. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Someone's drunk. Have us like I said, someone, they're all keeping their titles. I don't know. Cause the I see title tournament. Is that, does that tomorrow night? Yeah. So it's not, it's not even on the pay-per-view. Okay. That should have been a pay-per-view. Just put that on the pre, you know, put that on the pre-show or put, put the hardy match on the pre-show and put that, you know, geez. It's AJ, Dean O'Brien. Why would you not?
01:09:52
Speaker
Yeah, well, it's a way to get people to watch SmackDown and it's the go home show. So all right, Phil. So who are we taking, Lashley or McIntyre?
01:10:02
Speaker
uh... i'm going last i mean uh... mack entire easily as a role so we're all on for all on mack and are sweet which means last last year's for me uh... women's uh... women's title match oscar versus nine jess i am going to go with the upset him to go with my jacks and she's going to go on a long run and have a nuclear heat uh... because people hate her and i think the whole injuring people thing is a total work to get her becoming the the made the biggest he won the company because
01:10:29
Speaker
You know, she has to be the champion. She's so much bigger than everybody else. You know, it's not even fair. And then the person that beats her becomes instantly made, you know, six months from now. I've got to go ask her keeping it. I just don't think that Naya, there's no fans to give her heat. She gets heat on the internet.
01:10:54
Speaker
That doesn't speak anything at all. So there's nothing like she walks into it. People are going to boo her for being a champion. That's just my own thing. But yeah, I'm going to go with Oscar, keeping her title. Then she's going to face Charlotte at some point because they have a story in history. Michael. Man, I feel like Oscar is the easy pick because she just got it. Otherwise, if
01:11:22
Speaker
if Becky wasn't out, she would be cashing in at some point. So they probably had plans for Oscar, but yeah, I like, I like Phil's idea of Naya having just this nuclear heat. So I'm going to take, I'm going to take the upset. I think somehow Naya, what are the heels? What are the heels that they have? I mean, who else is, who else is on raw? That would be, you know, Charlotte. I mean, Charlotte, Charlotte's there unless you break up Alexa and
01:11:54
Speaker
I don't even know. Yeah, they're on SmackDown. They got traded for AJ, and AJ is on SmackDown now.
Iconics' Future and Tag Team Dynamics
01:12:00
Speaker
Yeah. And he got traded for nobody so far. All right, so Marco doesn't have any title changes here. Let's go to the women's tag team triple threat match, Bailey and Sasha Banks versus the Iconics versus Bliss and Cross. Do we see a tag team split up here? Do we see the titles change? I think it's not my pick. I think Mike is up.
01:12:15
Speaker
No, are they on SmackDown?
01:12:24
Speaker
I mean, they teased that the iconics were going to break up like two or three weeks ago, and now they're like, Oh, best friends again, man. Yeah, I'll take iconics. I don't think you're going to take it off of Sasha and Bailey that quickly, but I like to see the iconics have another title run.
01:12:48
Speaker
I should I should stick with the champs, but I'm too big of an iconics mark. I'm taking the iconics mark on the upset You pick in the iconics Phil no, no, I haven't made my pick Okay, now. I'm gonna Boston the boss Boston Bailey. Yeah, they're keeping they just they just won them. They're not taking them off yet I mean unless this is how you split them up, but
01:13:11
Speaker
in a triple threat tag match. It doesn't seem the right moment to be a regular tag title match where they split up.
01:13:20
Speaker
We barely has barely has the women's title. So I mean just write them up some point lose They lose this that's how it's gonna happen. They're gonna lose They're gonna get a fight about losing the tag team titles and Sasha's gonna challenge Bailey for the women's title But they don't that's that's a summer slam match. So what do we have after this? It was another pay-per-view after this still got a bridge it somehow extreme rules Yeah
01:13:46
Speaker
And um Yeah, I don't know especially if they don't get pinned for they can't view just one of them don't get paid for the title Right if like if neither one of them gets pinned. It's a triple threat what if the Akashia crashes into Bailey's buns and then and then gets rolled up By Billy Kay and Billy Kay, that's possible. Yeah Yeah
01:14:11
Speaker
I said Sasha and Bailey. So I'm with you. Okay. Sweet. United States women. No, no. United States. United States women. That's all I want to see. Damn it. My country United States championship Apollo cruise against pop against Andrade for
Apollo Crews' Title Defense
01:14:33
Speaker
the United States championship belt. Marco, you start
01:14:40
Speaker
So since I think not everyone's keeping their titles, I think if Paul Cruz might lose his title, then you can draw him, I win it back. That would be a mistake, but I could see it happening. It would be, but he's Mr. Charlotte, so.
01:14:54
Speaker
I don't think they just need to get rid of whatever issues he had on the outside, please. I'm going to say Apollo Crews keeps the title. Apollo Crews is such a weird name to say. It just sounds like Pablo Cruz or something. It does. What what do you say, Mike? Apollo Crews around. Yeah, I think I think Apollo keeps it for his first singles title. It's too quick, I think, to take it off. I think you give him a month or two with the belt.
01:15:24
Speaker
When he loses it, he probably never wins another one, or not for quite a while. So I think he gets a little bit of a run on this and then eventually just runs into somebody who challenges him. That's not maybe the Kevin Owens storyline they've got going. I don't know who they're going to really bring in, but yeah, I think he loses it before we get to SummerSlam. Just not, just not, just not this weekend.
01:15:48
Speaker
Alright, main event time.
Edge vs. Randy Orton Match Anticipation
01:15:50
Speaker
Greatest, not to oversell this here, but this is going to be the greatest wrestling match ever. Ed versus Randy Orton in the ring. Supposedly they filmed Backlash the night they filmed Takeover. They filmed this match or the whole thing? The whole thing. Everything is filmed. And supposedly this match was, according to Meltzer, it was done very well. Very good. Yeah, I mean you have to
01:16:18
Speaker
edit and find a way to make this match at least semi good like you can't not be at least a three and a half four star type match because otherwise you're gonna catch flack on it for at least the next month by calling it the greatest match ever if you don't find a way to at least impress people in some capacity but anything is gonna be missing the
01:17:02
Speaker
Orton wins this one, and he's reigning supreme. I don't know if he gets some underhanded tactics or what happens. Rick Flair comes down, Berber. But I'm gonna go Orton. While you guys talk, I'm gonna rinse out this mold out of my cup. I'm gonna go with Orton as well, I think. He definitely
01:17:06
Speaker
the boat on this one by not being the greatest match
01:17:33
Speaker
I think he's definitely going to win. Obviously he lost the last man standing match to edge. So if they are going to do it like a trilogy.
01:17:42
Speaker
Obviously, Warren's in a win, and he's been wrestling a lot longer, technically, than Edge, since Edge has been away for like 15 years. He's the full-time guy, and we don't know how many matches we're getting out of Edge. And I actually think this will be, I think they recorded it, they watched it, and they were just like, someone's just like, this is the greatest match I've ever seen. I think that's where it came, I'm not even joking. I legit think they watched it back, edited it and everything, and they're just like,
01:18:10
Speaker
This is the greatest thing I've ever seen. And then it was like, let's call it the greatest wrestling match ever. And that's, that's why they, they do it as a rib to, to like, get people all pissed off. You know, like the new Japan people out there like, no way. Okada, Okada Omega three was the greatest match I've ever seen those type of guys. Um, but yeah, it's all tongue in cheek with them, but I think it actually will be really, really, really, really good. I think they will be the best match on the pay review.
01:18:37
Speaker
It's so much better than Jeff Hardy versus Sheamus. Sheamus is one of the greatest, you know, he's a future Hall of Famer. Well, that a hundred percent is going to happen. So I mean, I mean, it's going to be, it's going to be close. It's going to be close. Sheamus is going to have to like put a little bit more effort, but, uh, but yeah, I think it will be the greatest match you ever see that night. Not ever in history. Did your wife ever make you watch the greatest showman, the movie?
'Greatest Showman' Movie Mention
01:19:04
Speaker
No, it's actually not terrible. People tell me it's good. I've never seen it. It's not terrible. I mean, it's good. I mean, I like Hugh Jackman. I think he's good. He's very versatile. He can do like a musical and then like be like a serial killer and like the next movie, you know, which takes some talent. Did we get Mike? Did you pick? No, no. Yeah, that's one of my love of the greatest show. You guys got into my ear on this one because I wanted to pick edge.
01:19:32
Speaker
And the triple threat thing makes so much sense. And the only other thing I could see is if edge wins, then the next, then the next match is or insane. This is for edges career or something. And then, but does everybody talks that edge is going to fight all these guys on the roster and all these dream matches. So, and how do you end the third match? Is it like a hell in the cell? Is it a page match? Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to go with Orton. Like I think.
01:20:02
Speaker
you split it one to one and you have that third send off match in at maybe summer slam. I don't know if you can stretch it two more months till another show, but maybe that's the way to do it. So yeah, I'll take Gordon.
01:20:17
Speaker
I would love to see, I mean, I, uh, I do love how, uh, Orton says edge. Listen, edge Christian was so good on Monday. Like he brings out the best in, in edge, obviously all their years around each other and growing up and stuff. And we've talked about like the, the like actual, like the hearts and the hearties and stuff. Just when you're in the standards, like when you're in the ring with like family like that, but they're pretty much family. They might as well be so.
01:20:47
Speaker
Yeah, Christian never really got probably the push in WWE that he could have. He got some in TNA and then they brought him back and he still won a title here. But yeah, he's so good on the mic, which is probably why he's on the backstage show with Renee and stuff, because he knows what he's talking about. He's great on the microphone. So yeah, I'll take Gordon to tie this series up.
01:21:13
Speaker
I saw an Orton, you went Orton. What'd you go with Marco? Did you see edge? No, I went Orton. Okay. Orton's. I mean, he's, like I said, he's been wrestling a lot longer than edge technically, so there's no way he can lose this. How great are the promos going to be the night after if Orton wins the greatest match of all time?
01:21:36
Speaker
Your beautiful wife, edge, Beth, your beautiful baby girls, Delilah and candy cane. What are their names? Your beautiful daughters, Dax and Harwood. Crash Bandicoot.
01:22:06
Speaker
Molly Holly All right Our last segment we're gonna divvy this up into two separate episodes again I know some people like that some people didn't like it, but when there's a pay-per-view it just makes it easier to do that because we're recapping a pay-per-view and Previewing a pay-per-view it we're already you know a long episode here, so we'll give you two different episodes to listen to We're going outside the ring outside the squared circle not the ring god damn it
01:22:34
Speaker
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01:22:37
Speaker
Elbow. You can use code CHICK for 10% off your order there. They have an awesome shat gas bar shirt that our buddy Zach Egolf purchased that looked really nice. And the proceeds go to his family. I don't know anything about this. This Lacey Evans Brian Cage Twitter feud. Yeah. So fair fight. Yeah. So real quick.
01:23:02
Speaker
That move that Lacey Evans does where she does that like kind of like spring, springboard, like moonsault, where she like jumps on the ropes, spins and does that moonsault. So someone, uh, someone posted on Twitter like, Oh, Lacey Evans does this perfect. Um, add Brian cage.
01:23:20
Speaker
And Brian Cage was like, Oh, I've been doing this forever. Cause people think I'm just this big meathead guy that doesn't know how to wrestle. And he posted like a video of him actually doing the move that size. And he did it. He did it pretty effortlessly. Um, and then they went back and, having Lacey went back and forth.
01:23:38
Speaker
who was better at doing each basically said, just stay out of my benches. I don't know why you're mentioning me type of thing, but I just thought it was where that he actually they engage with each other. That was kind of. Spent a lot of that, I guess, when you're not on the road and you got plenty of time to look at your your mentions and obviously when another company or another wrestler is involved, more fans are liking and retweeting and replying and stuff. So I only saw part of it. I saw him post the video and I saw him talk about
01:24:08
Speaker
how few years she had in the business compared to him and obviously like some of these people like each other and they'll jokingly talk trash back and forth and then some of them
01:24:20
Speaker
get real serious and offended and stuff like that. He's fucking Brett Hart over here. Brian Cage, man. But like Marco said, it was impressive to see him do that springboard. It's like, it's like the first time you see Saul Brock Lesnar do that shooting star. Like if you've ever seen the him actually hit it, not break his neck at WrestleMania. It's quite, quite impressive.
01:24:48
Speaker
Uh, my favorite, my favorite feud was, uh, Tommaso Ciampa and, uh, Randy Orton. That was pretty awesome. So Randy Orton made a remark about, uh, uh, NFC and your house and pay-per-view. So like, so he went to, he, I think I'm not sure he was on, uh, on, uh, Corey Gray's podcast, but he saw like, he loves the fact that those guys can like move around, run around, do all these boom, boom, boom, do all these crazy moves, all these like dives and all these crazy things. But like.
01:25:16
Speaker
Where's your, his thing is, where's your career going to be in like five to 10 years?
Randy Orton and Tommaso Ciampa Twitter Exchange
01:25:19
Speaker
Is your body going to be able to like continue doing this? So a lot of people get on radio and about, he's boring, he's slow, but he said, I'm going to be wrestling until I'm 50 years old. But these guys are probably going to be wrestling until they're like 27, 28 years old. Cause they broke their necks and broke their legs and stuff. They didn't say like that. Yeah. So like, so that, that was his argument. But, uh, so he mentioned something on Twitter about this show. Like, well, the show guys, blah, blah, blah. Um,
01:25:45
Speaker
talk about the slaps when people like do super kicks and these somebody slap their legs. Yeah. Um, so sometimes the champion was like, Oh yeah, my daughter has a hard time falling asleep. I usually just put on a Randy Orton magic. It helps her. It's like dayclo.
01:26:01
Speaker
And then he goes, he goes, oh, it's for you. He's like, oh, it's great. He's like, next time there's a knee slapping class at NXT. He's like, let me know so I can so I can upgrade myself a little bit or something like that. But this is actually pretty funny because there is a lot now you're going to notice that a lot. I mean, I notice it anyway. So when you watch AEW in NXT, there's a lot of a lot of knee slaps and thigh slaps. So it's like a super kick and like. So what?
01:26:31
Speaker
What's more likely? Is Randy Orton going to show up on NXT or does Chompa show up on Raw? Neither. This is 100% of work. This is 100% fake. It would be a great match to watch if you want to just have a random one-off match, but then do you look bad putting one over the other and stuff like that?
01:26:56
Speaker
I mean, Orton's been wrestling for 20 something years and he's about to be in the greatest wrestling match of all time. So he's just proving how long his career can go. Yeah. Why is he tweeting? He should be focused on the greatest this match. I mean, geez. Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, like Tommaso wasn't the most fast paced fighting guy, like in his matches. No, it would be an actual wrestling match. Yeah. Like he's a pretty slow, methodical,
01:27:26
Speaker
like guy himself. So like, I'm not sure we, you know, he got offended about like the fast moving type of act because he's just, he can do it, but he doesn't really do it. Like they were probably sitting across from each other. Just looking at each other and just like, all right, you write this. I'll write that. That shit's funny. We'll sell a bunch of shirts or something. Slapping class was like, I actually laughed when I read that. Oh yeah. So a D D slapping class starts
01:27:55
Speaker
so I could upgrade my skill set. I don't want to shock you guys, but Elias is out with a pretty another injury.
01:28:05
Speaker
Well, I believe that he's never gets injured. No, no. Yeah. How does that happen? Beter is supposed to hold your body together. It's true. I feel like he has been hurt. You know, every six months he gets hurt. Yeah. So it stinks for him. I don't know how long he'll be out for, but hopefully we see him back soon. And looks like what Daniel Bryan did an interview and talked about the guys he wanted to work with the most.
Daniel Bryan's Wrestling Aspirations
01:28:30
Speaker
Yeah. He was on a, I always get the bump confused with the bet WWE backstage. He's on WWE backstage. Yeah. It was him seeing punk and a Renee, Renee young. She interviewed both of them. They talked a little bit about like when they were both together with AJ Lee on and off screen, which is kind of awkward. But then, then she asked him, like, obviously who would he like to work with? And he's like, he's like, there's a lot of guys I want to work with, but like, obviously they're like,
01:28:59
Speaker
How they do things there, you don't get the chance to do it. So like he said Big E, he said he would love to work with Big E. Like just the way he like, we talk about Big E all the time. He's super athletic. He's lumbar. He can do all these crazy things. He's super energetic.
01:29:13
Speaker
great on the bike, all the stuff. He said he would love to work with him. Grand battle leak, he said, too. He never, he said he'd never cross paths with any of those guys, like the lucha guys. And he said he wants to have a match with grand battle league because he's, he wants to have a lucha match at some point. That's cool. Which is pretty cool. Yeah. Just YouTube grand medal league matches. Like, yeah, that guy's crazy in the ring and they don't let him do any of that stuff. Yeah. And WWE or NXT it's, it's
01:29:39
Speaker
It's mind-blowing how good he is and they've never utilized him outside of maybe Like Cruiserweight classic you saw a little bit, but I have no idea why they don't use these guys to their extent Yeah, the way like Daniel Bryan alluded to without saying was like they obviously they focus on certain people so these people don't get to shine and that that's where that comes in so it's like I
01:30:04
Speaker
I'm going to definitely pick a Seamus over at Grand Metal League if I want ratings on TV. Seamus has a look outside of being like toyetic and you're going to sell figures like at Grand Metal League, but Seamus can talk on the mic. He's a big guy where you've got this lucha guy under a mask who's going to put on a good flips and jumps and a wild match, but you're not really going to build
01:30:27
Speaker
rivalries and stuff
01:30:42
Speaker
cross paths with low osprey, so who knows? Maybe he's alluding to something. Maybe his contract is up soon. There will be a time, I think, when Daniel Bryan and AJ Styles fight two or three years past what they probably should be, and you'll see them do these new Japan shows or shows with these guys. Sure. Yeah, it's definitely coming.
01:31:07
Speaker
Yeah, some good Twitter feuds and, you know, stay out of these Twitter streets, man. So we're going to stop the episode here. We're going to do a separate episode for a Go Figure segment, talk about the things we purchased over the last week and some of the figure news. We have a Pete Dunn Elite to give away courtesy of our buddy Alan Day.
01:31:29
Speaker
And a bunch of cool stuff, so be sure to listen over there. But for Mike and Marco, we'll be back next week here to recap WWE Backlash and the greatest wrestling match in the history of the world. So we'll talk to you guys soon. See ya.
01:32:21
Speaker
So we come these renegades in the rain