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Season 2- Episode 19- TFRY for TRM (Champions Cup Round 5)
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It's your favorite American Rugby hammerheads back for your enjoyment! This episode we talk about our friends at The Rugby Magazine and how much they mean to us, so support their Kickstarter (link below). We also talk about transfers and what has conjured out the winds that seems be flowing through this rumor mill. Of course we also talk about this past week's action in Europe and take a look ahead at who could be in and who could be out for the Quarter-Finals. Come along for the ride and enjoy the fun as we get into all this & more.
Have a question about your lineup on as the clock ticks down for game week start? Ask us questions via Twitter: Jarrod- jdyke8man & Ben- admrablsnackbar, or by using #AskTFRY. Send us your thoughts for the show and questions for upcoming shows via e-mail fantasyrugbypodcast@gmail.com. Of course we welcome feedback via e-mail, twitter or by rating/reviewing the pod on Apple Podcast.
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Transcript
Hosts Introduction and Weekend Excitement
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey everybody, how's it going? It is a fancy rugby angst. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. We are back, we are in, and it's gonna be a fun weekend coming up. It was a fun weekend in the past. It all comes down to this. Yeah. Or so. Or something like that. Something like that. I'm selling you up the river right now.
00:00:29
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No.
Sports Talk and Team Updates
00:00:30
Speaker
Yes. No. If anybody happens to hate the kids to the Chiefs or happens to be a Houston Texans fan, this guy right here was calling it over in the first bloody quarter. This fucking guy. You and your big mouth get yourself in a lot of trouble. I neglected the Bill O'Brien factor. I thought it was Bill O'Brien proof. Not quite. No, not quite. Not quite. I'm not even going to know.
00:00:58
Speaker
Yeah, just just make sure that you got enough money in the bank to cash that check you right with your mouth It doesn't matter Baltimore's out that's all I figured that you'd be happy about that I am extremely happy about that and the Packers one hooray. Oh, that's even
Podcast Promotion and Listener Engagement
00:01:15
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better Yes. All right, let's move on. Let's crack these fuckers fuck. Yeah
00:01:21
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Everybody make sure that you're checking us out on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Spotify, TuneIn. Give us a rating on Apple Podcasts. That'd be awesome. Even if it's a one-star rating, we're okay with that. We're not begging you to give us a five-star rating. What we're telling you is we want to know what you think. That's the idea here. Yes, that is a lovely pour.
00:01:42
Speaker
Yeah, we'd look at us. Yeah, I know. It's a new year, new pores. We're doing great. It's like we know what we're doing every once in a while. Hopefully it transfers over to the pod sometime soon. TRM upgrades. Make sure that you guys are looking at those.
Supporting Fantasy Rugby and Recommendations
00:01:57
Speaker
Get them, buy them, especially help the site. Yeah, help these guys out. It's worth it. It's good for your team and it's good for the site. They could use your support.
00:02:05
Speaker
Yeah. And, you know, we obviously want Super Rugby to go off this year because we didn't get a chance to play Super Rugby last year as we went to FRD. Now we're doing both because we like, you know, we have we see the ups and downs of both sides. So but yeah, you got to you. We got to help these guys out. You know, there's there's a good many thousand of us that can help these guys out by putting in the suggested donation, at least will get you an upgrade as well. So do that.
00:02:31
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But if you're feeling really generous and you got a little extra corner in your pocket and you love playing fantasy rugby, help these guys out. These guys are awesome dudes. I might have done myself. Yeah, these are awesome dudes. So pledge some money to these guys. You won't regret it, I promise. No, you won't. This is an awesome, awesome game. The more fantasy games we have for rugby, the better it is. And speaking of fantasy rugby, check out Fantasy Rugby Geek. If you need
Fantasy Rugby League Updates and Live Draft Plans
00:02:56
Speaker
a little extra reading material, he's always putting up new posts. He's always putting up new content.
00:03:01
Speaker
Um, if you're just kind of stuck on something and don't want to trust us, go, go, go to our friend, the Francie rugby. He's got you covered. He does. So yeah. Um, play him an FRD and see how that goes. Um, yeah. Yeah. About that. Um, we do, we speak in FRD, we do have a super rugby FRD.
00:03:23
Speaker
We still have spots open in so if you want to get on that either hit Ben or I up on Twitter or fancy review podcast at gmail.com as well We'll do we'll get you in there and we'll get you hooked up into the league We're drafting the weekend before it starts, which I believe is the 31st of this month
00:03:39
Speaker
All right, so yeah, we're drafting that we can all probably drop that Saturday. Honestly. Yeah. I see another live draft episode. I would love to do a live draft episode. That was fun last year. You'll have to come see the we can use the new back room that we have at the place. Oh, we survived the trip to Ikea this weekend. Hooray, Ikea.
00:03:58
Speaker
IKEA, do you want good furniture? Then don't go to IKEA. Yeah, so we'll do that. That was a lot of fun. It was very popular, too. It was very popular. It was, so let's do it again. I think we'll give that a shot. But yeah, if you want, if you want into the podcast league, just let us know and we'll
Rugby Transfer Rumors and Saracens Management Issues
00:04:15
Speaker
hook you up. We'll open it up to the public eventually and just let randos choose. But we want the listeners to be in first. We want to give you first crack at us.
00:04:24
Speaker
Yeah, bring it on! We haven't done that well, let's be real. I think I'm out in the Champions Cup. I got hosed, dude. I looked at the team, I was ahead. And I'm like, oh, okay, this is close. And I still had a couple of Leinster players, a couple of Saints. He had...
00:04:43
Speaker
all the good Leinster players save Larmor, because I had Larmor. He had Ringrose, I think he had Sexton, he had McGrath, he also had Tiddytoma and Vakatawa. I was like, ah! I was like, I am so not, I only lost by 50 considering, like I should have got tonked, so whatever I put out, couldn't have been that bad, but yeah, tough to win when you're going against the likes of that.
00:05:05
Speaker
Who's running this shit anyway? That's actually not what I'm running. So jokes on you. Let's talk about the Transfers that have been swirling around obviously we you and I talked about a big one that has been confirmed as of today I think try not leaving the prom right into the season do we know where he's going Montpelier? Oh, he's going to my failure. Okay. Well, that's the that's the rumor
00:05:27
Speaker
Rumor. I don't love that fit. Honestly, I don't I don't I don't I have an issue with my play that we'll talk about when we get to the guy. I'd like him for France, though. I think his style is going to play very well down there. Yes, I just wish it wasn't to there. Well, that's all.
00:05:43
Speaker
I mean, you know, his, his, uh, I know, I know why he went, he's going cause Fran Stane and Paula are both there. Right. So that kind of dirties are there. Yeah. There's, there's lots of brethren there. So that's, that makes it an easy switch, but still it's like, just don't love it for rugby in general. That's all.
00:06:01
Speaker
But then, so we haven't addressed the elephant in the run in the last couple weeks, but because we're really just waiting to see if there was any confirmation of anything that's been going around, and obviously considering Baroni's beloved Saracens.
Player Contracts and Sports Controversies
00:06:13
Speaker
And it's, there's something going on with Ed Griffin, Griffith, sorry. And he's only been there for like, he started shit basically being there a day.
00:06:24
Speaker
And I'm like, you've been here a day, dude. Like, what are you doing? Like, are you really trying to fuck this up? Or are you just trying to be a dick? Like, there's no way he has that much information that fast. No. I doubt it at least. Let's put it that way. So you got to remember that it's sport, but these are also executives. And right now that he's in an executive mode,
00:06:47
Speaker
And when you come into a situation that's rocky like this, the first thing you do is you throw the old guy under the bus. Unfortunately. Who's the owner? I wouldn't do that. No, but that's what you do. Because you have to present a good front for yourself, and you're only as good as your reputation. And just so not knowing what the situation is, I would understand why somebody like that would, or in that situation,
00:07:17
Speaker
Would start to say oh, we don't know what's gonna happen because he puts himself in a situation where Nothing will look reflect badly on him, which is really what it's all about unfortunately. Yeah, it's that if they have to blow up some of the team which they won't have to blow up the whole team like let's Let's put that right out. Let's be real. Let's be real about this
00:07:37
Speaker
They might lose a star or two. And we know Liam's gone. Who knows about some of the others. And there's players out of contract at the end of the season too. Like Lewington, we just saw today. He's not even going to look for another club right now. He's just going to play rugby and then sign after the season. At least that's what he said that I saw. And Loz is OK with what's going on.
00:08:02
Speaker
I love laws, and I figured he'd probably be one of those guys that leaves at the end of the year anyway without this. Right. Without this. So back to the point, though, is that you put yourself in a position where if you do have to let some players go, you say, hey, this is the situation I came into. I told you my first day that this is a possibility. But then if it turns out that you don't have to do anything, that you can just carry on business as you have been doing,
00:08:31
Speaker
Then you get to be the hero you could be like, ah, we were gonna lose these players, but I figured out a way to keep him. So Yeah, it's my ass he's just he's just bullshitting. Yeah, don't take it seriously for now until you actually see real movement and That brings me to my next question because I saw another so I saw two rumors about
00:08:52
Speaker
last week That first off that that Joel kapoku was leaving and might be going to Saints which I'll get to in a second the other that That Cruz is looking to go to there's going is to Japan and I'm Whatever. I don't know any I I haven't seen really confirmation on yeah on that But the other question ahead was I thought kapoku was already out the door say it's same I and now it's uh, we don't know if it's gonna happen Yeah, so are we are there is somebody doubling back on that word?
00:09:22
Speaker
Because of the situation or are people trying people are covering their ass I have no idea what the hell it is. Nobody wants to confirm shit right now, which is really annoying, right? You know, it's like can we can somebody give me a straight word you're turning into NFL, right? And for an American the whole the whole idea of
00:09:41
Speaker
Someone's signing for another team while continuing to play for the team that they're on now is so fucking confusing and It's a foreign concept. It is. It's very much a foreign concept To us Americans because the whole thing is you have a contract with one team, you know Amero American players fuck they they're they're ruthless. There is no way like
00:10:04
Speaker
NBA, NFL. Oh, I'm going to go sign with them for next year before the season's over. I would not trust that. Your team would be like, get the fuck out the door now. Yeah, I would not trust that for a fucking second. Right. Well, and there are tampering rules put in place now, you know, and I think there are in this case as well. But when you I think it's when you're down to your last year in rugby, I think it's when you're down to your last year of your contract, you are allowed to seek other options once that happens in soccer and football.
00:10:33
Speaker
Like, primarily, if you get to January and your contract's up at the end of the season, again, you're allowed to go seek other options. And that makes sense, because especially, you know, we're seeing now in Major League Baseball the sign-stealing controversy.
00:10:49
Speaker
You want to talk about controversies. Yeah. You know, the Saracens bit is nothing compared to this. Yeah. So anyway, that thinks that where the bad guys go ahead and look at these guys. And unfortunately, my Boston's beloved Red Sox, who I am a fan of, they might be getting their ass handed to them as well. Right. So, you know, the controversies are a little bit more over here and they're more in depth. But the point is like your communication, the way you communicate with your your teammates,
00:11:16
Speaker
That is, is vital to the play. So baseball, obviously you're, they're, they're stealing pitch signs. So, so the batter knows what the pitcher is going to throw in the NFL. We saw with the Patriots, the, the spy gate scandal, which was silly too, but, um, still bigger than, than the Saturday scandal that, um,
00:11:38
Speaker
That was them videotaping defensive signals. So they would know what defense they were playing, which allows them to call the potentially a practice to write. Yeah. So all these things are, are, are ways of knowing what the other team is doing. Whereas rugby and, and,
Rugby Game Reviews and Match Analysis
00:11:53
Speaker
and soccer football.
00:11:54
Speaker
are much more just, oh, it's naked. It's here's what we're doing. We're not- Yeah, this is true. We're not gonna lie to you. We're not gonna do any deception. We don't need to have all these hand signals and different play calls. Yeah. It's, okay, what do we have lined up? Oh, we got five guys out there? All right, well, all right, let's do this. Yeah. Instead of, all right, we're gonna get into this formation and run this specific play and this is, no, it doesn't work that way. You're shouting your play.
00:12:22
Speaker
as a 10 from way down the line. You know somebody else is going to hear it anyway, whatever. And the only thing might be like your line out calls, but God, you can figure out why line out calls fast enough. Exactly. Especially if you're a professional, you know. It's like, all right, I know what they're fucking doing here. Right. By the late first half, I'm hearing the other team run their line out. And I'm like, OK, I have an idea as to where this is going. It's first jump or second jump, or what kind of motion are they doing? You kind of get it. Yeah.
00:12:49
Speaker
It's it's not super super super secret by any means whatsoever with this stuff so that that's that's a big difference, but at the same time
00:12:59
Speaker
the the the scandals that are rocking american sports are uh, a little unfortunate I mean just really it's uh, it's a black mark. Yeah, it really is like this people say this is a black mark No way and that's why you can't have players transferring while they're still under contract but again, it kind of makes sense like you know, doesn't matter if kapoku knows the sarahs and sarahson's line-out calls if he's playing for saints
00:13:24
Speaker
No, no, they might change one number two. They won't care right? I tell I tell my high school team. I don't care I'll tell them exactly what the fuck we're doing. Yeah, we're still gonna do it better than them So that's okay, you know as long as you execute it. Well, it doesn't matter Okay moving on. Let's go. Let's go the games games. We're freaking some of them were pretty wild as they were pretty fucking wild So it was good stuff a lot of red cards this week. Uh-huh, and I didn't well, you know, I'll be candid I definitely didn't watch a mom we
00:13:50
Speaker
you and I both talked about, it's probably not going to happen that we watch them all. Right. And you know, some of them weren't some of them were worth watching. Some of them, most of them still had some sort of implication on what was going to happen this weekend. But some of them were like, OK, that's an easy one. You know, like I didn't watch Leinster, but they absolutely. Yeah. Lay on, you know, it's just like, OK, I need to watch that. Thank you. It didn't have any, you know, I tried to watch matches that had implications to
00:14:20
Speaker
Who was going to be moving on? Yeah, that's that's mostly what I aim for. Unfortunately, both Friday night matches weren't worth a fuck in terms of that. I did watch the sale match. It wasn't bad. OK. La Rochelle played a little bit more expensive as they do at home as opposed to a way sale put out a team. You know, AJ got hurt. That sucked.
00:14:42
Speaker
Right. I was like, oh, all two out of three, the brothers were were on the two the two twins jail and Dan and they were doing their thing. But other than that, I mean, it wasn't it wasn't crazy. It wasn't that good.
00:14:58
Speaker
There we go. Core is fired. There goes that. Just like we were talking about. Did you watch the bath at Quinn's match? No. No, I didn't either. I did hear that Max Green broke his leg. I did hear that, yes. That sucks. That, that, that indeed sucks. That's a, that's a, you know, you're, you're thrown out there as a, unfortunately as kind of the, you know, being thrown to the wolves and the, and the, and just the sacrificial lamb and literally you are because you, you break and that, that sucks. That, that's not good.
00:15:26
Speaker
I mean there were there were a couple injuries this week too, so Stuff you don't want to see especially in a match like that where? That has no bearing whatsoever on Champions Cup now, but it has every bearing on premiership
00:15:39
Speaker
Yes. Yes. And so, you know, that's why they obviously didn't go full bore. Right. Team. All right. Let's go to let's go to something a little bit more exciting. Sprays and Ospreys and Saracens at Liberty. This got evened up pretty quickly. Yeah. No kidding. Yikes. Rhys Carr, Carrey, whatever. However you want to pronounce it, I guess it's well, so we'll go Carrey.
00:16:04
Speaker
Yeah, a bit of a bit of a unlucky red card, but still, you know, you got to bring your tackle height down. And that's that's pretty much what the end of it is. That's the way the game's going. Yeah, it's one of those you look at it and you say, that's not that's not bad. But that's the way the game's going. Yes. Just just don't put yourself. What I always say is don't put yourself in a position where the referee gets to make a decision. And that was a red card. And that was the right red card. It was, you know, it ticked all the boxes of a red card and there were no mitigations. So
00:16:34
Speaker
Yep, that's unfortunate. Yeah, so that was uh, that was super unfortunate. Um, but Man of Villa pola
00:16:41
Speaker
Looks pretty good. He's transformed in front of our eyes. He really has. He's blossomed. Remember the first couple of matches with him? It was a lot of game management out of him, not so much trying to make plays. And this now, it's OK. Even just kicking. Kicking and kicking a goal. Both have vastly improved since the beginning of the season for him. Oh, and the kicking a goal was ridiculous. It was great. For the weather that it was in, that was excellent work. I don't think he missed, did he?
00:17:12
Speaker
Uncertain. I think he hit everything, which is crazy to think. Anyway, and then Joel Kipoku ended up having a decent match on top of that because he both came on for a sequel for an HIA or a Blood Bin, whichever one it was. And then also he came on for Welly Skelton somewhere near the beginning of the first second half rather. But yeah, this I mean, this Osprey's team rocked up. They
00:17:35
Speaker
They smelled the blood, especially when Cal and Clark went into the bin as well. They really smelled blood and this team needed a win so badly, especially like this that would have been so monumental for their season to maybe switch things around. They put Alan Mun Jones back in. He hadn't played for a while. He did pretty damn well for a guy that hadn't played in like three months. So you got to give him a shitload of credit.
00:18:00
Speaker
I have to say I do love Is it Leslie Klim? The Namibian wing that plays for them I love when he's in He looks like he's gonna try and take it the distance every time although he didn't get a whole lot of space this game Yeah, but I do like him a ton So it was a little dicey obviously for the Saracens going through it
00:18:24
Speaker
Um, you know, there, there, it was tiffer tap penalties. And then they got the try when, uh, Calvin Clark went out, was sent, was, uh, sent off to the naughty chair. Yeah. And that was stupid to him. Yeah. That wasn't the most blatant yellow card.
00:18:37
Speaker
Yeah, but Saracen's discipline, even after the red card was shit, they were just being dicks. Their heads were all over the place. So at that point, I think, you know, that wasn't so much for what Clark did, although what Clark did was stupid. There was clearly a ruck formed, and he was fucking with the ball with his hands, and I think there are laws against that, if I'm not mistaken.
00:19:00
Speaker
And he's old enough to know better. That's the one that he got right, though. That's the only one he got wrong, I should say. He won a couple of big penalties in this match. It has to be said. And then, let's talk about the Lewington try. Yes, please. Wow. What timing. Perfection. Perfection. That was so, and you know, you obviously came out the foot of Richard Wigglesworth, who
00:19:23
Speaker
It had I I don't know who he wasn't the man of the match was he I don't recall God he should have been but yeah, either way. Holy shit. He played his play his ass off If it wasn't him maybe a sequel or something like that. I don't know I I don't think it listed on the uh, that's too bad on the page either way Um, yeah, because I didn't hear the commentary team actually announced it. No, I think at that point I was too busy just being like
00:19:48
Speaker
All right, get away with that one. Relief, I can go poop now. Yeah, pretty much. But yeah, I do want to talk about Nick Asiqui because he was the target in the line out and I don't know how many he missed. It was, you could probably count it on a couple of fingers. They were throwing everything to him and he looked great. So, and you know, he is the
00:20:11
Speaker
He is definitely becoming that X Factor that you can put at six, which he's done very well at, and become a fucking awesome Lionheart option. So you got to give the kid a boatload of credit. He's got a load of caps already for the Saracens. I'm waiting on his next England one. I'd like to see, I mean, yeah, he's obviously at the international level, he's a lock.
00:20:31
Speaker
I'd like to see more speed out of him from for him to be a six Um, just a little bit six is your your bumper is usually you're heftier flying Yeah, so that's why you can get away He can get away with it. Uh, but but I think uh, yeah, like he's just one of those If you know, he if he makes the plays he makes at lock excellent excellent lock kind of for me, uh I wouldn't say substandard but certainly not like Not the elite level. It's not it's not unlike putting mario there
00:21:00
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, it is. It's exactly. Yeah. You know, it's not unlike putting him there. And, you know, they don't do it very often at England level. No. With Morrow. So I wouldn't expect they do that more with laws, really. Yeah. Well, he's a fucking good job. He's a belter. Yeah. Yeah. You hurt people. Yes.
00:21:17
Speaker
In any case, the Saracens do win 15-22 over sprays and they set themselves up for quite the clash coming back to Allianz this coming weekend, which obviously we'll talk about in a little bit. The other match that was in this window was Claremont and
00:21:36
Speaker
Pardon me in Ulster and it was a good, I watched the first half of this match, didn't get to the second half unfortunately. This was pretty damn good. Alvarati Raka is a cheat code. I think we talk about cheat codes all the time. He's one of them. He is definitely one of them. John Cooney,
00:21:52
Speaker
Pen him in for island squad for sure got him, you know I Don't think he's gonna unseat Connor Murray, but he's definitely there back up right now. So here's the question though Because I don't know that Ireland's released their their roster not to my knowledge
00:22:09
Speaker
But do they do something like what we're expecting England to do and kind of go young? I don't know. I mean, he's not that young. He's not that young, but I mean, as far as right and a little bit inexperienced from so it's more of a different maybe putting out a different lineup. They know what they have in Murray. Obviously, he's going to make the squad.
00:22:29
Speaker
Or beyond the squad. It's just a question of Do they want to? You know bring up some some newbies and see what they can do because last I checked Ireland have a long way to go Yeah, where they need to be if they want if they really want to become well contenders and I would not share right if I'm if I'm running them I am NOT looking to bring the same squad that they brought to the World Cup I'm looking to make definitely not
00:22:54
Speaker
There's no need definitely not yeah, like even if you even if joe schmidt was still in charge this team I would imagine that he would get a little more creative in his brain right from this point on at least Um, no, I mean new coach You know, this is an this is a new cycle. I would anticipate some some switches for sure. I uh, uh Stuart mcloskey should be on that list as well. Yeah, he is a bull He has definitely been a huge factor for ulster in that midfield
00:23:20
Speaker
You know, they obviously let this thing fade and Claremont took care of business eventually 29-13, but they played a pretty good first half. I think you can probably attribute a little bit of that to the par yellow card, but still to go
00:23:35
Speaker
to Marcelo Michelin and do and play as well as they did at least for that first half and only fade until very late You got even credit so it's tough ways to go not unlike their own place So yeah, that blue and yellow circle is not really fun to go to so I don't envy any team that has to go to Claremont if they get a home quarter final here and then the the next window and
00:24:02
Speaker
We had a couple of interesting games.
Champions Cup Performances and Critiques
00:24:06
Speaker
You and I were texting and you were like, yeah, that'll be boring. Except for Glasgow. Nothing but excitement. Oh my goodness. I'm interested in watching those two teams.
00:24:17
Speaker
And then combining each other. 62 points between the two of them. Did not see that. I chose poorly. Yeah. It was a doozy. It was a doozy. Hoggie missed one right at the end. Just clanked off the crossbar. That would have won it. Put a hell of a leg. It was on the other side of the 50. That would have been a hell of a win or a kick then.
00:24:39
Speaker
Yeah, well, especially at his old place. Yeah, that would have been a huge kick for him. There was a lot of good stuff from both squads.
00:24:49
Speaker
Both squads played pretty open. They really did. OK. I'll have to maybe go back and give that a watch. Yeah, give that a bit of a look. I think there were definitely some errors that were capitalized on. But at the same time, yeah, I think both squads played fairly openly. Yes, the usual suspects are scoring for Exeter with the likes of Kovacic and Vermeulans kind of come into one as well.
00:25:16
Speaker
But it was still it was still a not not a boring game by any means whatsoever. So that is that's definitely worth the watch. Extra get a draw. They qualify after getting both the draw and the bonus point, which ensured them winning the group. So their only thing left to worry about is where do they land in terms of one through five there? And then so I got the honor of watching. Yeah. I kind of act to lose.
00:25:45
Speaker
It started with just shit discipline For to lose connect open the scoring ten minutes in with a penalty try And a yellow card to jude to Cory in the process. So so it's Cory Then fine guy gets a yellow card for I hit five minutes later. So kind of even I
00:26:08
Speaker
So, you know, Toulouse threatens, they did okay. And, you know, Kaino got it over, obviously, because that's what he does. He's a beast. He's a monster.
00:26:19
Speaker
And I want to point out Florian Verhag, who charged down the Kona kick and just couldn't gather it. All he had to do was pick up the ball and put it over the line. And unfortunately, he had lock hands. Silly second rows. Oh, wait.
00:26:38
Speaker
But then they that right after halftime the was it cannot kick up charge on a kick again But this time they pounce on it for the try. So it kind of all evened out. Yep Justice was served and then speaking of justice to lose go down to 13 Yo Yeah huge a gets a yellow for a dump tackle and
00:26:58
Speaker
It was a bit of a soft because he didn't really dump him. He held him. And I don't remember who who he had in the air. Luke Pierce doesn't fuck around. And yeah, it was it was certainly a dump, but it was very slow motion. It was like, I'm going to lower you down. But because of the way because there's the way it landed and all that stuff. Once you get above the horizontal, you're getting a penalty either way. Yeah, that's something you have to know.
00:27:23
Speaker
But half of that was the ball carrier trying to get to deck and squirming. So to me, there was some mitigation there that it should have been penalty only. But it's also QJ, so fuck him. It's a yellow. Maybe it's a history thing at that point. Yeah. But then shortly after that, Zach Holmes has that high tackle. Clearly a high tackle. Clearly straight red. No question about it. He's got a bad habit of that. He did that last year in the quarterfinal.
00:27:51
Speaker
And they still won, couldn't believe it. They still won this one, too. Yeah, they still won this one. But he got that one pretty early last year against Rossing. Yeah, this one was like 71st or so. Yeah, OK. So something you can maybe stomach at least. Yeah. And so they played the last nine or so with 13. And still won. They kept them out.
00:28:12
Speaker
Yep. So. OK. So I mean, Toulouse got the job done. They did. And this is what they need to give themselves over the line for a quarterfinal here. Holmes has also been, as has Carrie, but both have been called in for a discipline. Of course. So there was a third red that I don't remember who also called in. I'm sure we'll figure out which one it was. And then to end the day, Gloucester keep their hopes alive with a nice performance at King's Home.
00:28:42
Speaker
Louis Reesammet. He's declared Louis. That's right. That's right. That's what he did say that I guess he finally finally stood up for himself. Unveiled the mystery. I've scored enough tries, damn it. I'm Louis. So, yeah, Louis Reesammet. He has declared for Wales. Yeah, good. Hands off England. I'm I'm I'm playing for Wales. It was awesome. Love to see it. Also, a guy that's kind of played for Wales probably is Nick Tompkins.
00:29:08
Speaker
Okay, good. He's he's he's had hands off England. I'm good. I'm playing for Wales. I like this. Yeah, I do too. I think that's it's a huge miss for England's part, but I kind of had a sense that he was gonna always play for Wales no matter what. But awesome. Awesome for him. I hope he gets to call up this this goal round. I hope we don't pay back picks up the phone calls him. We'll get into that later on. But yes, Gloucester. This brings me a little bit to my point about Montpelier. This was ugly and they just don't play good stuff.
00:29:36
Speaker
They don't. No. This is bad rugby. This is very bad rugby. I don't know how I don't have another way to describe it. It's not good. It's not good rugby. And they've been in this place. They've been a champions cup for the last two years. And I've yet to see a good game out of them, a really good game.
00:29:53
Speaker
They've had so many, they've had a lot of brain farts. They've had, yes, they have some good individual efforts, which makes them a little bit attractive to watch sometimes. But overall, it's like, this is not a watchable team. And how the fuck they keep getting into the Champions Cup, I have no idea. But somebody in France, stop this, please. Get in there in front of them, please.
00:30:15
Speaker
We deserve better than this for the champions cup. Like even in the early games, it was just awful stuff. It really wasn't good. Yeah. I mean, they got a win, but big deal. Who would they be? Oh, fuck. Who did they beat?
00:30:31
Speaker
They'd be, you know what, they'd be Gloucester at home. OK. And that was without Sips. That was a depowered Gloucester team. Well, this was without Sips. Well, he got hurt. Yeah. I don't know what the status on him is. Right. But yeah, that's not great either. I mean, it looked like an ankle injury. So if it doesn't, that's a couple of weeks, if at most. So I mean, his champions cup is over. They'll shut him down for next week anyway. See what happens after that within the prem. Right.
00:31:01
Speaker
Well, we'll see what he ends up doing, because it's... We'll talk about the games in a little bit. Yeah, we'll talk about what their options are here. But either way, they at least keep themselves alive, 29-6. They got all four, I believe, as well, so yeah. Yeah, they did, because that drew them level with Saracens.
00:31:24
Speaker
So let's go to Sunday and there was some also interesting matches even though a couple of them we expected to go one way or another. But still there was one that definitely kind of was a little wobbly. Northampton and Bennington started off a little bit wobbly and Chris Boyd said it and he said you know
00:31:45
Speaker
He was very, very, he was definitely very upset that Northampton did not respect Benetton enough to take them seriously. And they didn't, and Benetton jumped on him for a little bit. A couple sucker punch tries that, you know, you hope you don't give up, but if you're not paying attention and you're not respecting your opponent, you're gonna give him up. Right, like that intercept try was just kind of a bonehead. Yeah, what do you give him that pass for? What do you give him that pass for? What's wrong with you?
00:32:15
Speaker
Awesome. I had to stand up and cheer too when Harry Malander got over. Awesome for him. He's been out for so long. He's a huge part of the Northampton Saints team for a long time. His dad was there obviously for a little while as the coach.
00:32:30
Speaker
Yeah awesome for him. I was so happy that he got over in the fashion he did and you know franklin's gardens basically shook the earth when they When they when he scored so that was uh, that was very awesome. Uh, just want to point that a little bit out there They but yeah benson played some good stuff that game changed Uh for me anyway, and I took a I took a note of it when it happened just because I was wondering what was going to happen. Um
00:32:53
Speaker
And it was uh, the the it was four words that if that my note was was and here comes rhinac Yeah, yeah, he comes under this not a knock on henry taylor, but no fuck right now it makes no difference rhinac It's not just that it's a it's a sub and that you're subbing quality nine For a world class nine. Yeah, like there's it's not it's it's also that
00:33:18
Speaker
You're bringing on somebody who just has a fire up. Like when you bring on that reserve, that can be a game changer. Yeah. I didn't write it down, but I can see if we can look at it here.
00:33:33
Speaker
55th minute. Okay, so he's got 35 minutes 25 minutes to burn to burn his legs out and We know he's got some and right after that is when van Vicke got over. Yep So then then that was it was on at that point the
00:33:49
Speaker
Frank's and Frank's attorney-at-law came out after that. The two Frank's brothers came out after that. I was wondering when we were going to see that, but I guess the international's restriction makes that kind of hard for the sense. Yeah, so that's both of their international burned
Rugby Match Recaps and Player Performances
00:34:05
Speaker
right there.
00:34:05
Speaker
Right so you can't have rhinoc you can't have well so rhinoc rhinoc doesn't count so that doesn't count oh yeah interesting yeah because there's some weird rule i don't remember why because i remember reading about it with the brexit stuff and okay and what what applies where
00:34:25
Speaker
They might be they might not be as bad as we are but fuck definitely making some shit up as I go Tommaso Allen missed a couple of big kicks and there were a couple of bad decisions where I was thinking Why the fuck are you not going for the corner? Yeah, so there were a couple of those Some I mean some of them are right in front You have to forget take the kicks that are right in front
00:34:45
Speaker
But there's a couple others. I'm like, why are you taking a long, weird ass shot at goal? Go for the damn corner. They showed them they can get it over if I ever got over. And he's one of the, I think he's their leading try score this year, which is, and it's mostly from that. It's not from open play. It's not because he's Harry Thacker. It's because he's, that's what they do. They just drive it over and he falls on the line when he sees it. So Northampton, do win. What's up? We should back to Northampton though. To me, their biggest problem was their line out.
00:35:14
Speaker
Mattivacy, not bad. They couldn't hit a fucking line out. Yeah, fish didn't do any better. And right. And that's, to me, you want to, like, I realize that Boyd's going to be worried more about other things, I guess. But if all that goes away, if they hit line outs, how many did they have inside of, like, deep inside the Benetton 22? Oh, a bunch. Then they overthrew, or they missed, or went stuck straight. They knocked on. Like, all that shit. That's like, you know what?
00:35:43
Speaker
There's no excuse. Lineouts should be fucking automatic. It's not the most complex thing in the world. No. Hit your mark. It was not great. Right. Hit your mark. Hit your timing right. That shit should be automatic, but on game day. And that was a shame to see, because that really fucked up everything Northampton wanted to do. I think it says a lot about what Mikey Haywood is to this team, though.
00:36:08
Speaker
because he was not in the team at all. I mean, Fish hasn't played for a little while. Good to see him back, but definitely Rusty. And then, unfortunately, Sam Matabesi, as much as I love him, did not do himself any justice here. But just the same, same to get it done. They're still well alive. They are definitely right there along with Gloucester Us and a couple other teams for one of those runner-up spots, 3320 over Benetton.
00:36:35
Speaker
And then the other match that was in that window was the Leinster match, which we kind of thought would happen the way it did. Yeah, I guess the halftime score wasn't that bad, but the final score was a talking. Yeah, 21-14. OK, that's that's respectable. And then 42-14. Yeah, they didn't say so they don't score another point. I guess Dave Carney is like on fire with this team. Like he scores tries for fun. His try rate is super, super high.
00:37:03
Speaker
I was like, I think it's one for one right now. Wow. I was like, yikes. So yeah, he's pretty good. Not bad. Not bad for being the sidekick brother. Yeah. Of Rob, who, I mean, late news, late breaking news. I guess he's called it good for Island. He said he's not going to play anymore for him.
00:37:25
Speaker
You know, I mean, he's he's not he's not young. No, he's not old, but he's not young. And, you know, sometimes you make that decision where you go, hmm, I'm probably not making the next World Cup squad. So I think I can step away from the from the team. And especially if you feel like they're in good hands. Yeah. And you think they are. I think they are. You know, they'll be OK. Like some armor who looks.
00:37:44
Speaker
Amazing! We'll be fine. So, Lester win 42-14 over Leon, and they take care of it. They've already qualified. They're well in the driver's seat of getting the top and getting home country advantage all the way to the final. Obviously, the final is in Marseille, so that's not home country. But, you know, they at least can have two home games as long as they take care of their job there.
00:38:09
Speaker
let's go to the last one la defense oh my this was i i you know and it didn't start any it started like a fucking premiership match yeah a little bit and but you know what monster was okay with that that's the thing they wanted that they that's the type of thing they want they don't want open play against these guys no but i mean the penalty kicks i just
00:38:34
Speaker
Yeah, there was a point where I was like are they gonna eventually go for the corner because they're gonna need to right they because they got Let me let me look at the timeline. I think it was like they kicked Yeah, the first three penalty kicks. Mm-hmm. Like at some point you get once you get the year's your sixth point
00:38:50
Speaker
You might want to start going to the corner yep, and you know they missed another penalty kick later But ended up scoring a try off of that anyway that sequence so I don't know and then even after that they're kicking penalties, and I'm like stop fucking kicking penalties go for the corner You're not gonna you're not gonna keep
00:39:12
Speaker
Rossing off the board. It's not going to happen. So you got to match up and say, okay, we're going to go for some points here. Uh, that did not happen. No, they, they, they did get the, the Conway try, which was, I believe it was off the intercept. Um, luckily he was, he was not on Teddy Tomah's wing. He was on the other wing cause had he been,
00:39:31
Speaker
Teddy was close and he was coming from the other side of the field and across like got to give him full effort for that one that was that was really really good chase even though he did not get there in time but yeah like I said if Conway had picked that off on the other wing he's he's not he's gonna get caught fucking enough about monster can we talk about teddy era baron what a pass he told that was like arrogance he's like I had somebody said something like oh yeah I could have totally I could totally pass this like a normal person but I
00:40:00
Speaker
I'm gonna just throw it like an asshole and see what happens. Like, no look. He turned his whole body towards his left and all of a sudden that ball is shooting out his right hand. Just shot out the back. Wow. Oh, man. I couldn't believe it. I was like, did he just do that? Did that work? It did. And then, of course, we got to talk about that Teddy Tama try off the kick for us.
00:40:23
Speaker
from Finn. Oh, glorious. This is this is what they can do. This is what they can do. This is what they're capable of doing. This is what they do. This is how wrestling want to play. And I remember watching that and I'm like, there's no way like you see it. Oh, it's out the back. Unfortunately, like, OK, we'll come back and.
00:40:38
Speaker
And all of a sudden, there's Teddy just grabbing it out of the air and dotting it down. And he starts celebrating like he scored. There was no doubt in his mind that he scored. And I'm like, look, I get that you're playing it up for the crowd. But come on, man. There's no way you got it down. And then they show the replay. And I'm like, what the fuck? You put it down? How did you get that down? You got to be fucking dead. That was wild.
00:41:08
Speaker
I'm trying not to choke on this. Oh my goodness. That was crazy. So it was a fantastic match. You got to give Munster full credit for coming in. This was a tough environment for them right away. They said it on the broadcast. This is an arena that has rugby played and sometimes not a rugby pitch. And I don't think that could be more true. But this is how they like it.
00:41:32
Speaker
This is this is Rossing. This is absolutely their home field advantage for sure. I mean, the crowd's right on you. Yeah. And there's and there's nothing like it. There's nothing like it. So it's it's environment that you have to be very used to. So if I were Rossing, I would. And, you know, they're hoping for a court home quarterfinal, obviously. If I were them, I'd.
00:41:50
Speaker
hope that it's not a French team that comes there because that's what happened last year. Toulouse has been there, done that. They know what to expect walking in there, and they were able to beat them. So if I were them, I'd hope it's nobody that's been there, at least not for a while. I don't think they have to worry about that. So we'll see how that... Because you look at all the teams that are vying for... Well, we're done with the games, right?
00:42:12
Speaker
Uh, yeah, let's just, uh, I do want to hit on, uh, Ramey Dukvakatawa real quick. Yeah, go for it. Fuck. That's not fair. He, he finishes like he's in the 80th minute. Like he's like, it's the first. Yeah. And he's just a house. Like good luck tackling that man. I am, I am not envying anybody that has to tackle him.
00:42:33
Speaker
And I also wanted to know, Waniyimov does love that inside line coming off his wing. You saw him almost break one. He broke one against Osprey's in the same fashion. You know, just months or slightly better tacklers. But yeah, so these guys have a shit ton of creativity up their sleeve and especially within the magician in there. So it's we'll talk about them in a little bit. This will be very interesting to what goes on this coming week.
00:42:59
Speaker
So on to that we're looking at the just just looking at the overall standings. Yeah, let's let's look at the pools real quick here, right? Uh-huh. So we're going let's do this. Yeah, let's do that. My flip my paper over to that Leinster at 24. Yeah, so let's go. Let's just get so they're at 24. What's their point differential?
00:43:22
Speaker
point differential 105 105 Okay, who's the who's their runner-up right now their runner-up? Yeah in that pool. Yeah. Oh, it's Saints Saints. Okay 14 at 14 and what's their point differential right now? negative 29 yuck Okay, and let's go to pull to Exeter Exeter and whether they are they are at 22 22 with the points
00:43:49
Speaker
62 pretty good. And then they're runner up is Glasgow. Right? So they're still kind of alive, right? And they're negative 12. They have, what are their points though?
00:44:04
Speaker
Oh, sorry, 12. 12. And they're at negative 12? Yeah, they're at negative 12. Yuck. That's not helpful. And one second. We're looking at. Pool three. Glasgow. Pool three. So they're playing. Yeah, we'll get to the opponent. We'll get to the opponent in a second. Because La Rochelle is right behind them with 10 points. But that doesn't. We already talked about. They talked about it on the broadcast. Nobody's qualified without at least 16. And 16 is like the edge. Yeah. So we'll see. All right. Pool three.
00:44:32
Speaker
Pool three is Claremont with 20. Ooh, that's not a great number. No, it's not. Differential of 86. That's a pretty good number though. It's not a bad number. That helps. And who's the runner up Ulster? Ulster at 17 points. 17, that's pretty good.
00:44:49
Speaker
With 15 differential. Okay. Just a plus 15 still? Good. All right. So they're indecent. I penciled them in as a runner up, probably, as long as they don't completely fuck it up this weekend. Four, is that our pool? That's yep. Rossing. So Rossing up ahead.
00:45:04
Speaker
With 22. They have 22. And what's their point differential? 71. Pretty good. I actually expected it to be a little higher. Yeah. Series. With 14. 14. Yeah. What's the point differential? 30. 30. Oh. Oh, wow. We're in the positive. Yeah. See, I thought, in my head, I thought we got tonked a little bit more by Rossing when we actually didn't get that bad. No. It wasn't that bad. It was a whooping, but it wasn't as bad as I thought it was. Yeah. All right. And then Munster. Because what do they have? And then Munster has 11.
00:45:31
Speaker
All right, so again they're on the line on the line. What's their point differential? Zero. They're even. They're dead on even. How the hell does that happen? Okay. And then the last pull. Last pull, two loose leads with 22 points. Okay, so it's 22. Differential of 56. Nice. And then Gloucester. Yep. With 14. With 14. And a differential of 21.
00:46:00
Speaker
21,
Champions Cup Standings and Future Predictions
00:46:01
Speaker
all right, so let's talk about, so we can probably, because Leinster are playing Benton, right? Looking, looking, yes. Okay, so we can probably put Leinster in as the one right now. Yeah. Because even they put a D power team into that, going to Italy, they'll be fine. They'll at least get four, if not five. You're right. So nobody else can catch them if that happens. So we'll put them in as the one.
00:46:29
Speaker
Let's go down the pools the rest of the way here to figure out where everybody else lies. Exeter are playing La Rochelle at home, who they already beat at La Rochelle. And I think they got a bonus point out of that too, if I'm not mistaken. So I would go ahead and give them a bonus point with that one right there as well. I'd assume that's gonna be a bonus point win for them. Yeah, so probably a 27 for them. Glasgow have to play. Sail there. They struggled with sail at home.
00:46:58
Speaker
So maybe they get four, maybe they get four. I think that's what I'll give them. I'll give them four because I don't think sale's gonna give them a whole lot of a team to play against. But again, we talked, like I said, they struggled with sale at Scottson.
00:47:15
Speaker
What are you gonna do going to Salford? So it's gonna be tough. I think again, I think they'll get four. I don't think they're gonna get the bonus point out of it though I think it's fair. So I think that's probably a very fair prediction. Yep, so 16 so and was 16 so that that keeps them alive potentially depending on how everybody else goes right and then Claremont play Oh God, these two teams are playing Quinn's in Bath, aren't they? Claremont plays Quinn's at Quinn's
00:47:45
Speaker
Ulster play at home against Bath. I'm gonna give Ulster 22 because I think they're gonna talk Bath and I'll probably give Claremont 25 honestly from I know they're a French team playing away from home They don't traditionally do well, but Quinn's aren't gonna put out a good team. I'm not gonna argue any of that. You know
00:48:03
Speaker
So, um, you can probably circle ulcer as, um, the number six, because they're going to probably be the best runner up. I don't see who else beats them. Um, I, again, I think they're going to just hose bath. Um, especially at the Kingsman, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're at home. They're, they're not going anywhere. All right. The big one pool four, this'll be, this'll have a lot of bearing on what goes on up and down the whole thing.
00:48:30
Speaker
We have Rossing and Sarries playing each other. We can assume Munster will absolutely rinse Osprey's, no doubt. No doubt. So probably put them at 16 points. So Sarries are basically playing, they have to have the win. They have to have a win. There's no doubt about it. Because I don't think any. But yeah, I think with Glasgow probably winning and the Saints probably winning, who will probably get
00:48:58
Speaker
They're going to they're going to go to Leon. We actually need a chance to talk about that. So rewind, boop, boop. Saints have to go to Leon. So that'll be tough. But they talked about it in the broadcast. Leon have a match against Toulon the following week, which is a huge match for them, especially where they are in the table. They're pretty high up there. The two and three. I think nothing to play for the Champions Cup. Right. So why would they? Yeah, they'd be powering up for for Toulouza next week. Too long. Too long the other one.
00:49:27
Speaker
I would, yeah, so I'll at least give Saint 18.
00:49:32
Speaker
So we'll give them that. They are away from home, so it might be tough. They couldn't get a bonus point against Leon at home. And I know that was probably a better team that the French put out. Yeah, so we'll call it 18 if they get 19. I also think the Saints are playing better right now. They were kind of just finding themselves earlier on in that season. I would imagine we'd see the likes of Dan bigger and Reinach in this match. Right. I don't think we saw them the first time around. Maybe not Reinach, but definitely bigger. Yeah.
00:49:59
Speaker
And then, so all right, let's fast forward back to pool four. Rassing and series.
00:50:06
Speaker
At the Allianz this is not This is a scary match for me because Rossing are definitely still playing for something They don't want to be that fifth seed that's a quarterfinal winner. So they are going to put out the likes of Touma, Bakutawa, Finn Russell, Anthony Klassen All those guys that you don't want to see on that team sheet. Yeah, so it's a question of what does you know Mark McCaldoon like does he does he say
00:50:30
Speaker
We're going to rock up and measure ourselves against this team. I think he does, because this is my running theory, is that he's kind of trained the Champions Cup, as a lot of the pro 14 teams do, where you don't send a lot of your big guns away, but you rock up at home, especially in the big matches here. So they didn't really put up. And especially for this. Even if you want to test yourself now, rather than wait until it's
00:51:00
Speaker
You know, later in the season, if you need a big win against a, an Exeter or a Northampton, you need to have something in reserve knowing, okay, we've, we've been here. We've, we've been playing some good competition and we've played with each other as far as the top side.
00:51:15
Speaker
Yeah. For continuity's sake, they need to put their topside out probably. I do want to mention Eliyo Obatoyenbo who didn't get to play a whole lot in that Saracens match because he got pulled to his little nice car. The red card. He was the sacrificial lamb, unfortunately. So I do feel for the kid, he was probably ready to go and amped up.
00:51:36
Speaker
fucking Reese Carrey comes in and fucks it all up. Reese, you owe him a beer. Buy him one. Buy him a pint, you fucking dick. Okay, so.
00:51:49
Speaker
Sarri's at home. Everybody's rested. Rossing played the whole, Rossing played almost all their big boys last week. Um, the only one, I think, uh, uh, Machino and Iberia Beran can be swapped interchangeably. So that's not a, that's not a thing for me. Um, I think somebody tried to make a thing of it. It was like, I back you the one honestly. Um,
00:52:10
Speaker
I'll put the hopes and dreams on it and and hope that Mark McCall puts out a real real team So that'll at least get I'd say we get four. Yeah, I say we get four rusting probably loses by less than For sure, maybe maybe they get a try bonus somehow out of it. I don't know Either way, but let's at least one. Yeah, so they'll give them 23. I
00:52:30
Speaker
Then the other pool to losing Gloucester. Here's the bad news to lose are playing for something and they're playing Gloucester bad news for Gloucester They're going to France to against a team. They've already lost two. Yeah, which sucks So I wonder what? Do they have do they have Cipriani? Mm-hmm I'm assuming they don't that that looked like it wasn't at least a week a week at least a week off. Oh
00:52:54
Speaker
Yep. So Owen Williams at 10, playing to lose and to lose in front. Yeah. Sorry. I think we can put this down to at least a 26 pointer for to lose, maybe more. I don't know, but we'll call it 26 for now. Gloucester would be would be maybe at 15, which isn't enough. Right.
00:53:16
Speaker
So let's go through it here. All right. Um, next highest team I can see would be Exeter. So they did the potentially the two, if not to lose would be right there with them. So it will be either Exeter or to lose two and three. So that'll be a big thing for both those squads and what they do.
00:53:38
Speaker
Oh yeah. Cause they're, they're point differentials or there's six point difference 56 for Toulouse 62 for Exeter. Yeah, that'd be a great one. I'm kind of shocked at that. Yeah. Exeter, but right. That's good for them at least getting some, getting some points on the board. So yeah, that'll be, that'll be a big pivot right there. Who gets the home home home country advantage there. Maybe one may have one of them blows it anyway, so it won't matter. Um, and that would leave the four as Clamont.
00:54:09
Speaker
But here's the bad news, Claremont, if things break the way that we've just suggested, not saying it's going to go, if they break the way that we've suggested, Rossing is going to be your five, and that's bad news for you. Because if there's a club that can figure out how to win that,
00:54:27
Speaker
it's them. So that's the bad news. Six will likely be Ulster. And then we'd have seven being Saracens, which would put Saints at eight, which leaves potentially a rematch for Leinster and Saints.
00:54:48
Speaker
Yeah. For all the for all the marbles back at the back probably back at Aviva. I would say they're not going to play at the RDS. I'd say they're going to play at the Aviva. Two old familiar foes, Exeter and Saracen's rocking together at Sandy Park, doing it one more time. I can't I. Toulouse and Ulster who which would be a tasty matchup in its own and then Claremont and Rassing against each other. That would suck. It would suck to have two English teams playing each other.
00:55:15
Speaker
After all that shit. Agreed. So maybe the Saracens need to find a way to have Ulster lose or something. Because that's basically the only way it's going to happen. Because there's no way they're getting the six. Unless they go to the eight, in which case they're playing Leinster, which is not really an appetizing thing either.
00:55:31
Speaker
Because they're dead and they would they they'd beat Exeter at their own I'd like to think that champions the champions cup Lore would bring a little bit more for the Saracens because they've been there done that and Exeter haven't but of course they when you play a familiar foe that gives you a slight that that advance just gets a little bit a little bit a little bit smaller the the difference is I think that
00:55:54
Speaker
Um, Exeter would retreat back into their shell of just doing that Looking for panel like playing a tight game of of kicking to the corner and trying to ball What an what an atmosphere that would be though shove it over. I don't think they would still play this open game I think they've they've tried to bring that to europe But I think as soon as they have a you know when they have that home game against it Yeah, they might go back to a reliable
00:56:18
Speaker
Especially against a premiership team like oh, let's see if we can beat the saris this way and it's like dumbass Just play your best rugby. Not your like not what you do But better All right, yeah, I mean it would be a whoo hostile Atmosphere. Oh, yeah, be able to feel the blood in the air. Yeah. Oh, oh boy. Whoo tingles up and somewhere else, but that's a different story for a different day
00:56:47
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All right, let's do pick them lay on Northampton. We both agree. It's probably going to be a Northampton win. Yep. Benton-Lenster, probably the same thing. No, I don't think Northampton is going to win that game. Yeah, but you know what I mean, asshole. Ulster-Bath. Sorry, Bath. You're going to be taking a bath. It's going to be a rinsing. Quinns and Claremont. Alvarado-Rocco runs wild, more than likely.
00:57:17
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I don't think the Quinns can stop him. I don't think the Quinns know how to stop him. You know, maybe, maybe LaSika gets a hold of him, but that's, but Raka's on the wing. So that's the bad news there. Yeah. I don't think he's going to catch it. Paul's not getting out there. I love Paul, but nope. Nope. Um, sale Glasgow. Yeah. I think Glasgow can get it done. Even, even though they're away from home and they've, they've had a couple of hiccups in this, in this competition, but they did play really well last week against a really good team.
00:57:41
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Yeah, I think they take it sale. I mean either of these teams really they don't either of them have anything to play for Glasgow they'll get the win. I mean, maybe they get a bonus point but yeah, and even then they're gonna need to really hope that results I still think they're gonna rock up and sell really have work to do with the premiership that they can't
00:58:02
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We'll be seeing probably one of the James brothers at 10. I bet instead of AJ or Dupree because I think he's out for a bit Dupree is not gonna play. Nope. So yeah, there's that Exeter la Rochelle. I'm gonna go exit areas as we talked about
00:58:18
Speaker
And then to sunday monster ospreys. This should be a tonking i'm, sorry ospreys, but monster you're going to tom and park against monster That's never a good thing. Yeah, they they they that's their that's their home. That's their happy place They're good. And I don't I don't think ospreys have a happy place right now. I'm not sure they do either. Geez, I'm poor guys. I feel so bad for squid He's so bitter. I know he's just a little bit just a little bit
00:58:42
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Saracens and Rossing who praying and hoping, praying and hoping that the boys in black get it done. Yeah, I'm going to go with them. I mean, a full a full strength squad with the rest. I think I think they'll get it. I think they'll get it. You know, a team, a team in Rossing that played last they played this past weekend. Full bore, probably, you know, mostly I can't recall anybody that didn't play that usually would.
00:59:10
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So yeah, Zebo, it's the only guy that I can think of, but I don't know if he's okay. He was dropped from the lineup early. It was anticipated he was going to miss this week, so we'll see what he is on the cards for coming up this week. And then Toulouse and Gloucester. Yeah, sorry.
00:59:30
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Glosterman you gave it a hell of a whirl. Good to see you in the Champions Cup again Two years running now, but this is two years that you don't get out of this pool. Yeah And then an interesting one Montpelier and Connick no bearing on it whatsoever. Nobody gives a shit but
00:59:51
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I've spoken how ill I So ill of Montpellier and I do I do love connect even if they put in a bear team I'll give it to the to the club from Galway. I have no reason to love connect And no real reason to hate Montpellier. So I'm going with the home side here go the home team. I
01:00:10
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All right. You get a chance to get one more game up on me. If it goes that way, it'll be down one. If not, you'll be back to where you were. Yeah. So we know that we're not going to be watching that game. Not so much. And we know we probably won't be watching like. Sal Glasgow. Sal Glasgow may not have a whole lot of bearing.
01:00:29
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I don't think I'm going to be watching Benetton Lenster. No, I'm not going to. I don't have a reason to watch that. I'll walk. I'll look at the I'll probably look at the school after the Northampton lay on match and be like, OK, happened as I thought. So that happened. No big deal. No problem for them.
01:00:44
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Yeah, i'll consider watching the saris wrestling Just a little bit. Yeah, I might I might be traveling this weekend. So yeah, not really excited about this wrong weekend to travel It's gonna be nasty out there. Yeah, I will say um again might might be might might be traveling I advise against it Yeah, so do I but that might not be my choice
01:01:07
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But yeah, so it will I will put up start set for FRD doing my best Obviously, we're gonna have some really funny looking lineups on some of these squads. So I'll do what I can Super super FRD though make sure that you get a hold of Ben or I if you want to get in on the podcast leagues and fancy rugby podcasts at
01:01:26
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01:01:43
Speaker
Let's get this going. Let's get them over the line. I don't know what the last tally was, but let's get these guys some help. They're good. They're good folk. They deserve it. And we want to play some TRM for a super rugby big time. I know everybody else out there does. Super rugby is so much fun to watch, and you can't tell me the TRM.
01:02:02
Speaker
For for super rugby is boring. It definitely would be fun. So Get these guys some help out there. Let's go get that get that donation in there and we'll and we'll we'll get them over the line together. No, no Don't don't be cheap There we go. That's the word I was looking for And on that we will we'll be back next week. This will hope we'll see how this all plays out. Yeah It's it's anybody's yes, really especially like from like three down kind of up in the air So we'll see what happens
01:02:30
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But until then, we will talk to you guys then. Thank you guys for coming along and we'll catch you guys next week. Have a good one. Later. Cheers.