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Morbius
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It's Morbin' Time! Recurring guest John Bracich is back again, this time to talk about the morbiest sensation that's morbed the entire internet into a morbing mob of morbsters! Of course, we could only be talking about Morbius and...
...okay look, we can't keep this up. Just listen to us talk about this awful movie.
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Transcript
Uncontrollable Bloodlust and Enhanced Abilities
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As a result of my procedure, I have an overpowering urge to consume... blood. Human blood. In certain respects, I've succeeded far beyond anything I could have imagined. For the first time in my entire life, I feel good. Yesterday, I could barely walk today.
00:00:45
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I don't know what I'm capable of. For a period of time after ingestion, the numbers are off the charts. I have the constitution of Olympic athlete, increase described as superhuman. And all of the...
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I've even developed a form of echolocation. Bat radar for the uninitiated.
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The question is, how do I control it? Isolate it. Breathe. And let it go.
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But unfortunately, this condition is temporary. I've been timing myself. Artificial blood keeps me stable for six hours. But that window is growing shorter. Artificial blood won't work forever. One question remains.
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What if, what if artificial blood becomes ineffective? What happens if I go without? No blue, no red, nothing. Eventually my vitals drop precipitously and my illness returns with vengeance.
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Soon, I'll face a choice. Drink the red or die. But what happened on that ship can't ever happen again.
Introduction and Critique of 'Morbius'
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Welcome to the Superhero Cinephiles podcast. I'm your host, Perry Constantine, and bringing on back one of our frequent guests, and that's John Bracek. Johnny, how you doing today?
00:03:51
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Well, howdy, howdy, howdy. It's okay. I just had an interesting day at the ER today, but we're not gonna get into that. Let's just say I'm glad it's over and I'm here talking with you. And let's just say the ER was more pleasurable than Morbius. Yeah. So that kind of gives away the game, but yeah, it's Johnny, it's Morbin time.
00:04:15
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It's definitely something. It's definitely something. I'm so glad I did not pay for this movie. I don't give a shit. It should have never been released in the theater. No, I will say this. It's not as bad as I've been led to believe.
00:04:34
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I don't know what you're talking about, Johnny. I mean, this is cinematic brilliance right here. Wow. Yeah, you're right. It's Citizen Kane, okay? It's Citizen Kane. This makes Citizen Kane look like a three-year-old finger painting with his own shit. That is how good Morbius is. That is how groundbreaking it is. Well, okay, we gotta be honest. It's Citizen Kane in the same planet, a bizarro Superman.
00:05:01
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Okay. If Bizarro Superman world came up with their version of citizen cake, this is the movie. In fact, I wouldn't even call this movie. In fact, I've been sitting through this. Now, I'd be honest. I watched this a few days ago. Okay. I watched this a few days. I didn't watch it today, which I should have again, because it would have led me through the ER. But you know what? I could not help stop thinking. And I'm going to give you the best quote. Okay. I'm watching the movie.
00:05:30
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My mother walks in and I say, are you playing a new video game? Now folks, think about that. This was not really a movie. This was essentially watching a PlayStation five video game because that's what it came out to be. This is what it looked like. I mean, the dialogue, something out of it. Though I will say I've heard better dialogue in a Kojima video game. Okay. I, I've staked the CGI was very good.
00:06:00
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for a video game. The action, fantastic for a video game. Okay. The cut scenes, and I'm going to call them that they don't come out like a normal movie and like suddenly boom, and they hit all the choice. This was one of those quote unquote movies that you could predict two scenes ahead of time.
00:06:23
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Oh, you know, that girl's gonna die. Oh, you know, that poor nurse in the beginning. And what fucking hospital? I'm in a hospital all the time. For your listeners, I'm physically sick and I got all sorts of shitty problems, okay? But I've never been in a goddamn hospital where the nurses are walking and one light turns on and one light turns off. That was so weird. That was a weird little thing. Yeah, I couldn't figure out. No hospital does that. You're inviting problems, okay? Because even in a dead of night,
00:06:51
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there's some way so don't do this flickering shit. Okay, you know, when they showed that see, you know what I thought of the ring. Because they they literally ripped off a scene from the ring, I think was Ringo to where apartment a hallway or Oh, one that comes out one that comes up one that comes out. Well, like, well, fuck that Japanese lady with the long hair is going to show up and kill her not Morbius, you know,
00:07:15
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I don't know. I don't know, Johnny. I hate to disagree with you, but this this was, you know, I can't I can't keep this up. I can't. It's just no, I can't keep this up because let me tell you something. If you're honest that you're saying that for real, give me the fucking name and number of your dealer because there is no goddamn way this piece of shit ever. And you know what?
00:07:37
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I've come to realize that Sean Bean, the actor, and Jared Harris have one thing in common. What's that? In every, almost everything they're in, they die in. Oh, really? I never noticed that. I knew that about Sean Bean, but I didn't know that about Jared Harris.
Predictability and Clichés in 'Morbius'
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The only exception for the role of Sean Bean I can think of is Sharp, the TV series. But everything that Jared Harris is in, pretty much, he's fucked. And I go, oh, there's Jared. He's gonna die. I just know it. Okay.
00:08:07
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You're a Spider-Man fan, are you? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we both grew up rating Spider-Man and we both read Morbius, okay? I'm watching this and I'm thinking to myself, where the fuck are the army of other vampires? I mean, this thing really deviated from the comic. Yeah, it's...
00:08:31
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So, I mean, you know, first of all, I got a bone to pick with the internet here because not the people who are, who are, you know, being ironic about it and saying it's the greatest movie ever. Right. Those people, obviously they were, they were, they were
00:08:47
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they're taking the piss, right? That was clear from the story. Oh yeah, that's why they're taking the piss. This movie is direct. Let me say this, the people that funded this movie were taking the piss. This is clearly, this is fucking clearly. You know what, I'm beginning to think that this is not really a real movie. This is a way for money laundering. You know, I've almost convinced that they produced this, they've had paper receipts for the IRS,
00:09:14
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because I, you know, and what gets me is the director, he's not a bad director, but this was not his kind of movie. I mean, if you see the other movies he's made, they're completely different. And I know what you're going to tell me. And some of your listeners are like, Oh God, shut up already, John. Well, hear me out. Yes, you can take a director who made a different kind of movie and make another kind of genre movie. But this guy, again, it just,
00:09:40
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You know, it didn't I don't think it clicked for him. They should have picked somebody somebody else. And again, they went all over the place. I don't think they knew what to do. They're quite honest with you. Yeah. Yeah. That's there's a lot of that going on. But the problem I have with the Internet here is.
00:09:58
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people got my expectations up too high because I was expecting, when I sat down to watch this movie, I was expecting something that was like spectacularly bad, right? I was expecting something that was like the room levels of bad or Sharknado levels of bad, you know, something that was just so unbelievably bad.
00:10:19
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offensive and just how awful it is that it that it turns the corner and it becomes it then it becomes good this is not that right it's not even spectacular it's not even it's an excessively mediocre film right it feels like the you don't remember back in the early aughts when there was like all these you know kind of like
00:10:41
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low-effort superhero movies coming out, like Ghost Rider and that kind of, it's very much like that. It feels like I'm in a time machine and I've gone back to the early aughts and I'm seeing these really low-effort superhero movie, one of those really low-effort superhero movies that the studios were just cranking out. It's like one of those bad Fantastic Four movies. Yeah, yeah, very much so, yeah. In fact, I'd say it's worse than that because the Fantastic Four movies, even though they've got
00:11:07
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Well, maybe like the last one, the one that Josh Trank directed, but the ones with Chris Evans and Michael Chiklis, those ones were, they definitely had problems, don't get me wrong, but they were overall entertaining. You could sit down and watch them for the most part. This was just bull, I fell asleep like five times watching this movie and it's only 90 minutes. Well, okay, this is,
00:11:35
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If you I mean, they try to snazze it up with the CGI, because they knew they had a Thursday. Sometimes you just got to polish a third. But this is one of those movies that you know, you could have sworn was made for the sci fi channel. Yeah, I mean, it's that bad. Or it's one of those movies that you know, was going to do shit in the theaters. So forget that it's going to go. This is one of those movies that back in the day, the forest stream would have been a direct to video release.
00:12:01
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Oh, absolutely, yeah. The only reason this got a theatrical release was because it had the Marvel name on it. Right, which I get, spoiler alert here, we know towards the end, you had two of these after credit things, not one, but two of them, as you recall, involving the vulture. Yeah.
00:12:25
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You know, which I know it leads up to the multiverse ship with the Spider-Man. But it doesn't even make sense with the multiverse. It makes right. There's no connection. And how the fuck does the vulture. Well, there's so many questions as to how did he get the tech unless this is a parallel universe that the tech was already there. How would he connect with why would he pick
00:12:50
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Morbius. Why? Why? That makes no sense. Like, oh, oh, I just saw him on the news. Maybe I'll go hitch up with a vampire to do it. And that's the other thing.
00:13:00
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It would go against the character of Morbius. The guy literally killed his best friend because the best friend became a vampire, right? Yeah. I couldn't understand his I couldn't understand his motivation behind that. I mean, he does say, you know, oh, I figured we should get a team together and do some good. But you know, it's it's the vultures and he's so it was just such a weird scene. And also like Michael Keaton and that in all this, you can tell he is just like
00:13:28
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Fuck, I'm under contract to do this shit. He's phoning it in, you could tell. No phoning it in. His eyes broke. His eyes, when he literally appears, it's like his eyes were like, ah, fuck, I gotta do this. Yeah, no, I agree with you. I mean, I think that's why they had him in the helmet in that last scene, because not even Michael Keaton being as good of an actor as he is, not even he could cover up how stupid he felt saying those lines at the end.
00:13:54
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It didn't make no sense. Oh yeah, let's go play. Like what motivation at this point does Morbius have kicking Spider-Man's ass? He doesn't even know Spider-Man. There's no reference to Spider-Man at all in this universe. Right. Exactly. It's so, yeah. And it completely, it doesn't make sense with, because you saw No Way Home, right? No. Oh, okay. You haven't seen No Way Home. All right. I'm a little behind folks.
00:14:23
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Okay. I'm not gonna spoil anything, but I'll just tell you that the way the spell worked in No Way Home, that the reason why all those characters from the other Spider-Man films started popping up in the MCU was because the spell went wrong. And instead of making, because Peter goes to Dr. Strange and he wants to, and he asks, and Dr. Strange agrees to help him by casting a spell to make the world forget that Peter Parker is Spider-Man.
00:14:53
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And during the spell, it goes wrong. And it goes wrong. And when it goes wrong, instead of making the world forget Peter Parker is Spider-Man, it starts bringing in
00:15:06
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everybody from different universes who know that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. So that's why you get Dr. Octopus. That's why you get Norman Osborn. That's why you get Electra, because they all know that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. They discovered it in those other movies. So that's why they get drawn into the MCU. And they have an explanation for how Venom knows too, because even
MCU Connections and Spider-Man Universe
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though, because Tom Hardy,
00:15:33
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as Venom, he pops up at the end of No Way Home, just very briefly, and then he gets zapped back to his own reality. He also has a brief scene in Venom, Let There Be Carnage, where he gets transported out. The reason that happens is because in Let There Be Carnage, it's explained that the symbiote is connected to all the other symbiotes in the multiverse. So it knows, because the symbiote in the Raimi universe, knows that Peter Parker is Spider-Man,
00:16:03
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That's how Venom symbiote knows it. So that's why he gets drawn in too. Cause the symbiote gets drawn in. So that made sense. But with Vulture, it's the complete opposite. He gets pushed out of the universe, but he knows who, so it doesn't make any sense. There's no reason for him to end up in that other universe. And you got to be careful. Cause if they're going to go pursue this further, it could fall apart on their hands very fast.
00:16:28
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and ruin it could ruin Spider-Man. I hate to say that going forward. It could hurt the brand. I don't know. I don't think it's going to. It's going to. I don't think it'll do that. I mean, you know, we had Spider-Man, Dad, Spider-Man three and all that. And I mean, they had the the fucking, you know, what was his name? Nicholas Hammond TV show. Right. If that didn't kill Spider-Man, you know, nothing's going to kill Spider-Man. It's not. I'm not saying kill Spider-Man. No, I don't ruin it or anything like that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me rephrase it. I misspoke.
00:16:59
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They're trying to develop something with the Spidey Unity, what is it called? The SSU? Because they're MCU, and then there's the, what, the Sony version of this? Yeah, yeah. And I know they're trying to build this stuff, but that's what I'm talking about. It could get ruined. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think that's...
00:17:17
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I didn't think Morbius pretty much ruined it already. I mean, I don't think they're gonna, the Venom movies are successful. They're doing well in their little niche. And I think they'll continue on with those. But after Morbius, I don't, because I was just reading a news article before we started recording because with all the online, with all the memes that were floating around about Morbius and all this kind of like, you know, fake enthusiasm for it, Sony decided to re-release it in theaters.
00:17:46
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So it re-released it in a thousand theaters over this past weekend and it bobbed twice since the second time this movie has bobbed in theaters. Why would you re-release it based off of memes that are making fun of it? That makes no fucking sense. It doesn't. No, I guess they thought that they could capitalize on the memes and
00:18:10
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And yeah, it did not work. But to show you like this, that's kind of emblematic of how many bad decisions are made around this movie. I mean, to give you an example of how bad the decision making process is with this movie, Tyrese Gibson, he plays Simon Stroud, who's a character from the comics. Now in the comics, Simon Stroud, just a regular guy, he's a white guy, he's a cop who ends up getting involved with Morbius in a few different times.
00:18:42
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In this movie, they gave him kind of like a cybernetic arm, which all the scenes involving it were cut. And that's, again, that's not something from the comics. That's something they just decided to throw in for some reason. And Tyrese said that the producers made the character black for the express purpose of being able to cast Tyrese Gibson. Now, you don't, the point I'm making here is,
00:19:12
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You don't go out of your way to cast Tyrese Gibson. Tyrese Gibson is the guy you cast when you can't get a good actor to play the part. I had that click, but holy shit, yeah. Well, again, this just merely highlights the people behind this movie.
00:19:38
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And I'm going to include the director. I'm going to include the producers at the to write everybody that's involved in this. Um, I don't think they understood really the material that they had. And I think they're going to try and shove through. Basically, they're going to make a long buffet table and that buffet table is going to be this poison piece of meat floating about. Okay.
00:20:03
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And that's what I'm fearing, but I just think that I got a feeling they're gonna make another one of these. I don't think so. I mean, it's just, it got, it bombed so badly. I don't think- You don't think they're gonna make a sequel? No, it bombed twice in the theaters. They're not gonna try again. I hope you're right. I really do. I think they're gonna, yeah, I think they're just gonna try and forget this ever happened.
00:20:24
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Because quite frankly, I could see them doing it only because like, what if we just get a new director? What if we get, uh, uh, we'll just change it up a little, add more CGI, you know, what does the other thing I granted it made him look cool or not cool. It made him look interesting, but you know, we don't did not want to go through the prosthetics and I think that had to do because of his experience at suicide squad when he had him as a joker. Right.
00:20:52
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I mean, he dialed him up on the two with the teeth and the old get up and everything. Right. You know, I'm not sure I can't find anything about why they decided because he did not. He opened. I was one of the things that held up the movie was he did not want prosthetics. Oh, OK. I didn't know that he he said he didn't want prosthetics. No, he refused it. I'll tell you who.
00:21:17
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I think it better than Lido was Matt Smith. Oh, Matt. There's one of the memes that Matt Smith has been admitted to the hospital for back injuries after carrying this entire movie on his shoulders. Because I just think he's a great character actor. I don't know why Hollywood doesn't use him even more.
00:21:38
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He's just good, I
Performance Highlights and Critiques
00:21:40
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know. You know, the funny thing though about this is, so his character's name is Lucian, but, you know, and him and Michael Morbius, they both have the same rare blood disease, which, and they meet when they're kids at this like special facility in Greece for some reason, I don't know why. And, because I thought it was because I think in the, I can't remember, I think in the comics he was,
00:22:07
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Maybe not Greek. I think he was from somewhere in, I'm just double checking. He played a different character in the comic. I mean, in the comic book, Lucian is hunger. Well, yeah, there's, I'm getting to that. There's a little bit more to it than that. So yeah, he was born in Greece. The character's, Michael Morbius is from Greece. So I thought like,
00:22:28
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they were gonna start with that, the idea that he actually is Greek, but the kid speaking with an American accent, so it's obviously not. Well, don't you know, they had to use the Greek kids to be the bullies out in the school next door. Didn't those also have American accents too?
00:22:46
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I don't know. I, I tuned out, but I could have sworn that would be, that would be dumb on a cost. I mean, if they really felt this in Greece, I doubt it. I suspect that somewhere else, but if they did the fly in a bunch of American kids to play green kids in Greece.
00:23:01
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You know, which honestly, hmm. I also found the whole premise of the Greek kids being mean to be like, what? I've never seen that before. Oh, yeah. Let's pick on the cripple kid. Yeah, it was really it was just like it was just they needed a stock bullying scene type of. Yeah.
00:23:21
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What trope do we have in our garbage bed of tropes here? What do we pull out? So the story about a hunger, you're right. Originally, Matt Smith was announced to be playing hunger, who is a character in the comics. He was a scientist who gets bitten by Morbius and he ends up becoming, he ends up gaining similar powers to Morbius. But what they did was they'd kind of made him into a composite character. So they'd combine
00:23:49
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elements of other characters like Emil Nikos and Vic Slaughter, who were both, I'm not sure about Nikos, but Vic Slaughter was definitely one of Morbius's villains in his solo series in the 90s. So, but you know what, here's the thing. Because the Hunger's real name in the comics is Loxious Crown. Here they named him Lucian, which is a,
00:24:16
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It's so on the nose, right? I mean, you're naming a character Lucian. Obviously, he's going to end up being the fucking villain. Right. And you know what? That's like one of those names have been ruined by fiction. You know, it's like naming your, you know, if you name your son Jeeves, he's fuck, you know, you know, or something like that. Of course, you can't even add up anymore either. Right. But that's the other thing that got me was. I could have sworn that goodness
00:24:46
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The girl would have been the, again, I haven't read a movie as a comic book. Yeah, she's also from the comics. But wouldn't she be the daughter of the Jared Harris character, Dr. Nicholas? I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be Dr. Nichols in the comic book. And the daughter is supposed to hate.
00:25:11
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Morbius for killing him. I mean, I could be wrong. It's been about 25 years since I read that, but I'm pretty sure they kind of messed that, they twisted that around. So she wasn't a, so yeah, okay. So Niko's, yeah, I found it here. She wasn't his daughter, but she was his assistant. And then she ended up, she ended up being turned into a similar creature.
00:25:39
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But yeah, that would have been more interesting because, you know, as good as Matt Smith is, Milo is just such an obvious copy of Morbius, right? There's nothing unique about him other than Matt Smith's performance. Other than that, it's just like, it's, you literally, they didn't have a character who was enough of a mirror image to Morbius. So they took these other characters, made it a composite and made it, basically gave him the exact same story as Morbius. Not only that, they picked, you know, that's another thing Lou should,
00:26:09
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So you basically pick the same villain bat name, a vampire name from Underworld. Right, yeah. You know. Well, also too, I don't understand why you're going with the whole Milo nickname thing either, because it's just, it's stupid. I mean, it just makes, it undermines the whole idea of their friendship to begin with, because right from the start, you know, Morbius is always referring to this guy who's supposedly his best friend. By this name, he just gives every sick kid who comes into the fucking hospital.
00:26:39
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You know, but gets me is they name these people, you know, I'm, you know, there was, uh, I don't know if you ever watched Rick and Morty. Uh, not really. No. Okay. But they, they, they have.
00:26:58
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Such obvious names for so-called hidden vampire. Oh, you're never going to figure it out. Like they won't call coach for out to coach for us. Even a vampire master goes, like, couldn't you name like Jim Jefferson or something? Coach for hot. That's not fucking obvious. He goes, and it's any loose shit. I, I, again, if he's supposed to be Greek,
00:27:23
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You know, is Lucian a Greek first name? Not that I know of. And again, he sounds British. So, you know, so even. And Michael Morbius is supposed to be Greek, but yet he's American. Yeah. He sounds American. He sounds like he's from Connecticut, you know? And that's the other thing. Forgive Jared Lido. You've done some great roles. But, you know, it's like you took a garbage bag of sativa.
00:27:52
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before doing, you know, more BS was more, you know, like, full of lemon vinegar. You know, you know, you're letting the CGI go. Yeah, he looks. He's showing the tape. He looks angry. He doesn't fucking act angry.
00:28:09
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He's like, he acts more like, I know, like, okay, I got to figure out how to act angry. I'm going to charge him. You know what? After seeing him in Suicide Squad and then Zack Snyder's Justice League and seeing how he is when he over commits to a role and then seeing this when he's obviously, you know, he's been, he's just so obvious being so fucking lazy with it. I honestly don't know which is worse.
00:28:36
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Because on the one hand, it's such a boring performance. There's nothing of interest in this performance that Leto brings. Nothing stands out whatsoever. He's just a guy, basically, and he's just kind of like, you know, reciting the lines very dryly. But I don't know if that's better or if that's worse than him doing his whole method acting over exuberant type of shit like he did with Joker. They're both bad. I mean, it's just like, you know what?
00:29:06
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Jerry, but it's time to fucking stop, I think. It's probably the advice I would give. Take a break. Don't do any more superhero movies. Anything that involves a cape, walk away. Well, I don't know. I heard House of Goot. He was awful and House of Gucci as well. So maybe just take a break from acting in general. I haven't seen House of Gucci, but neither have I, but I heard it. It's terrible. And especially he's he's even he's like one of the reasons it's so terrible. But also that you know what the weird thing, too, is like
00:29:33
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the Nobel Prize, right? It's like called the the Nobel Prize or something like that, like they completely mispronounced one of the most well known things.
Vampiric Themes and Realities
00:29:42
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Is it because the the Nobel community heard about this movie? It's like, hey, you know, it's how radioactive they would sooner, they would sooner have not been mentioned in this movie than
00:29:56
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to award a war criminal, okay? I mean, they feel more better giving Henry Kissinger the Nobel Peace Prize than to allow her name to be uttered in this trash. We're like, okay, Henry Kissinger giving Kissinger the Nobel Peace Prize. That's, we can defend that. We stand behind that. Having our name in Morbius, no, no, no, no, no. That's where we draw the line.
00:30:20
Speaker
Yeah, no, no, let's let's let's give the guy who dropped bombs on babies. He gets it. Not Jared Leto. Not this fucking movie. No way. No how. And that's the other thing. Oh, you told off you didn't take it. Why even go to the fucking thing? You know, you know, there is a history actual case of people not accepting it. Yeah. I'm not showing up and setting it a thing. I don't want the damn price. Right. Yeah. You know, which again,
00:30:50
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And what crowns would you deny the Nobel Prize? Are you upset that the guy that did it made dynamite 200 years ago? What is your upset? You're literally in an industry
00:31:04
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I couldn't understand why there's this big fear of vampire bats because vampire bats are not that dangerous to humans. Every now and then you get this case where rabies can be transmitted by vampire bat bites.
00:31:25
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at most you had like 55 cases. And that was like the most you've ever had in a year. And only less than 1% of the bats carry rabies to begin with. So it's just like the risk of infection to the human population is less than to livestock exposed to bat bites. And yet they're acting like these vampire bats are so dangerous to humans and all this. I'm like, wait a second.
00:31:55
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Wait a minute, and this is the other thing.
00:31:57
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If the vampire bats exist underneath New York as well, why are you going to some place called the Valley of the Dead? No, I think those were, I think those were the ones that he had brought out of Costa Rica. That's how I read that. Well, even so, why would you do that if you care for people, if you think, if you think the vampire bats need to be take, you know, you know, secured away. Oh no, I'll just release them into the fucking subway.
00:32:27
Speaker
No, no. And you're right. All you got to do is watch National Geographic, you know, these bats, they're like little fine dogs in a way, you know, you have a better chance of getting a rabies from the lasso abso across the street. This thing. And that's the other thing. Vampire bats don't exist in some remote area in South America. You always got to get out of here at nighttime.
00:32:53
Speaker
That's the other thing I could. Why? Do the bats emerge into a giant bat and come after the helicopter? What's going to happen? Is there some Dracula hangs out there? What do you give us you got to get out at night for? Give me my money now. That's the other part I couldn't figure out.
00:33:14
Speaker
the beginning, which that told me automatically, oh, this movie's going to be terrible. The internet was right. Because any situation where you get a helicopter to come and deliver goods to you, and then they ask for the money, you know, which was a lot of cash,
00:33:33
Speaker
Yeah, that was just really bizarre too. Also, I don't understand why Morbius is going there himself in person to do that. It seems like a weird thing to do if you've got this rare blood disease that needs you to walk around with crutches to go to taken by helicopter to this remote bat cave in Costa Rica. Right, if he's dead of typhoid or something, you know, I mean, Christ's sake,
00:33:59
Speaker
And that's the other thing. If you need to get blood transfusions three times a day, how the hell did you get down there from a helicopter ride that probably took three hours at the minimum? Yeah. I'm guessing that the artificial blood he developed is probably lessened the need for the three times a day treatment, because that was it when he was a kid. So I think it's that artificial blood that made his treatment a little bit less
00:34:26
Speaker
urgent, right? Didn't have to have it like round the clock like before. Now, but again, this is the problem. A lot of the stuff is not really explained very well, but then they explained other stuff in way too much detail like him. For example, I mean, taking a ship onto international waters to do these experiments. First off, I don't think
00:34:48
Speaker
a ship's really gonna have the kind of power needs you need for that kind of medical equipment. Second, I mean, I know ships have stabilizers and stuff, but this is just a regular cargo ship. This isn't a cruise ship. So it doesn't seem like the best place to be conducting these types of, it seems like it would have been a lot more difficult to do that, right? I would argue that if you already have a lab and you already backed up by some rich guy who hike things,
00:35:17
Speaker
Why not just do it there? Why do you have to go? It seems so weird. Because, you know, they see that they're trying to cover it, and it doesn't seem to help anyway, because they're like, oh, there's some illegal experimentation going on on the ship. It's like, well, then what was the point of international waters in the first place? Listen, the only reason you need international waters and have monkey knife fights. Okay, that's it. You want two monkeys to fight with a knife, or if you want to have
00:35:44
Speaker
You know, you know, a racing horse fight a ball or, you know, or, or have a legal midget wrestling to the death. Okay. You get the, not for fucking scientific research. What were your bobbin and weave it? And let's be honest, that lab did not look sanitary. If you're working on blood. No, not at all. Well, especially because he goes.
00:36:05
Speaker
It seems like he jumps directly from we have this serum. It works in the computer computer models. Now we're going straight to testing it on myself. Usually they I mean, at least have like some animal trials there or something in between. I put a dog. Yeah. But, you know, I don't I mean, if you're willing to do fucking mice, what what you couldn't you couldn't you couldn't find a guinea pig, go up one level to guinea pig hamster.
00:36:34
Speaker
You know, or get a pig or, you know, or some goddamn thing. You know, oh, no, we're going to get the boat. You know, we've got to get the fucking boat. And wait a minute. How far in international waters where they were just a few miles off because they said it was like they're like 19 miles off the coast or something like that. You're telling me they couldn't have an underground lab again. Why leave New York if he was going to test himself?
00:36:59
Speaker
human testing, right? Okay, if you're picking people who are volunteering, but if you're gonna fucking do it on yourself, are you going with the boat? Yeah, just do it there. And so Matt Smith, you know, he, this is what
00:37:18
Speaker
I kind of feel bad for him because he had turned down so many other roles in superhero movies. And then he finally joins this one because of the director and also because Karen Gillan, who worked with him on Doctor Who, you know, also encouraged him to give a superhero movie a try. And then it's this piece of shit. I mean, you know, you would have, after this, I don't know, maybe, down at the hope. You know, I mean, would he want to do another one?
00:37:47
Speaker
He didn't really want to do one before, it seems. I also don't understand what the point is of the two FBI agents. They really don't serve any consequential role in the story. They add nothing. Nothing. It's sort of like, and I'm going to go back to the same thing we said a moment ago, and it's this.
00:38:06
Speaker
It's a Hasley put together, it's a bunch of little movies in a way, or let's go to the movie. It's like every week or every day or every week they had a meeting. Okay, let's make the movie go in this direction. Then a week later, yeah, that didn't work. Let's make the movie go in that direction. And that's what it seems to be. It's like a movie designed by committee. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, it's just, and also you had,
00:38:34
Speaker
Bancroft in there, Martine. You know, what's weird is that I'm reading on Wikipedia and Adria, I'm probably mispronouncing the actress's name, but Adria Arzona, she said that she took inspiration for her character from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. And I'm like, where? Where does that come from? Where do you even make that connection? I don't get that. Well, I mean, oh yeah, well, how'd you know, Perry?
00:39:01
Speaker
Don't you know that she dabbles in vampirism? Don't you know that at night when she's done and legislated, she flies back to New York and fights crime, you know, probably using the name vampirilla. Now that's a comic movie I would like to see, but they probably fucked that one up too. Oh, they already did. Okay. There was a vampirilla movie like in the mid-90s, I think, with Alyssa Soto. I don't want to watch it. No, apparently it was terrible. Yeah.
00:39:31
Speaker
And I don't want to watch it, but I mean, is it because, oh, AO, where is the connect? I think she just said that because they asked her a question. Again, it's indicative of everything connected in the movie. Let's pull something out of our ass. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, she does kind of look like her. So she just tried to campaign for eventually playing AOC in a biopic maybe.
00:39:57
Speaker
That's not the way to do it, Perry. Yeah. I don't know. I'm just trying to figure out why you would even go there. Because when, if you're the casting director and say actresses is AOC, well, what the fuck's going to come up? Her name, the actress's name would Morbius. Oh, no, we're not using her. She was Morbius. Fuck that. You know, I, you know, I'd sue her again. No, no, no, no, no, no. And again,
00:40:26
Speaker
It doesn't look like a movie to me. Anybody that watches this, it looks more like a video game. It just, I mean, compare the fight scenes in the Spider-Man movies or any of the Marvel movies and compare it to this. I dare you. Well, I mean, there's no stakes at all in this. Like it doesn't, it never feels like there's any sort of character journey that happens in this movie.
00:40:53
Speaker
There is no character development except for Matt Smith. Matt Smith's character is the only one that goes from a pathetic kid to psychopathic vampire who's got a God complex. Which is another thing too. I couldn't understand why you've got this thing where he's like involved in all this crime and stuff like that. I couldn't understand where that idea comes from. Yeah, what happened to the Russians? Yeah, it just seems to come out of nowhere.
00:41:20
Speaker
You know, oh, I got a bodyguard for the fucking Russians. You wouldn't think instead of the bar scene, you'd have him to hear what the Russians. In fact, you know, I'll be honest, in a way, I wished Milo survived the goddamn movie and not Jared Leto because he comes in. And yes, I know the vampires don't sleep. I get it. How I get it. But Jared Leto literally looks like he doesn't sleep.
00:41:44
Speaker
Not a vampire when he literally looks like he's coming in like, Oh my God, I worked on a turn paper all night. That's how he looks. He doesn't look like, you know, like, like, like, I'm ready for him. Like, he looked like a bottle of Nyquil or, or some fucking thing. And the, and I'm sorry, but the girl always looked annoyed. She did. Yeah. With them. Yeah. She looked like, I can't, you know, I, I see that there's a work at Arby's. It has that. And then of course, they went with,
00:42:14
Speaker
these con artists who are dealing off with the fake money. Mm hmm. Remember that scene? Yeah. Of course, the waitress, why would you take the money? You don't have to take the money. Mm hmm. Like, well, that's bullshit. You know, I mean, I make well, maybe she's corrupt. Okay, fine. She takes the money and he follows her and he then goes and takes a blood bag from an ambulance. Motherfucker. What if they were using that to help somebody? Mm hmm.
00:42:44
Speaker
Right. You just had the goddamn blood. You're taking it from an app. Honestly, I wish those con guys were basically going in there stealing blood or some shit like that instead of counterfeiting. Yeah. You know, and he turns that into a lab. Well, you know, I'm going to, you know, the thing spins around and all that shit. Oh, anyways, it's just, I thought that was something. Yeah. I mean, I'm trying to figure out, I don't know why, um,
00:43:12
Speaker
Jared Harris is even in this movie. It's well, you know what? It's in between his Apple TV show, you know, which is very good in that. But again, I think he he shows up everywhere. He's like the sci-fi version of Michael K. You know, Michael K used to show up during the 60s and 70s and almost every fucking movie.
00:43:34
Speaker
You couldn't trip over, you could trip over Michael Cade in almost any movie you see from Zulu to some offbeat to Jaws 3. Okay, he did all this up. And I'm saying this with Jared Harris, he shows up in the Expanse with the worst South African acts that you ever heard. He's in foundation. But like I said, in every goddamn thing, well, maybe I forgot of Expanse, he dies. But I know in everything else, he's in, he gets clipped.
00:44:03
Speaker
you know, that I've seen at least. And as for the plot, again, where are you going with this movie? Is it the setup? Because it's obviously to set something up.
00:44:16
Speaker
You know, I that's the only thing I can think of is Sony is still so fixated on this idea of doing a sinister six movie because they why I don't know because they got nothing else. That's the only thing I can think of. You don't want to have that. They want to have that that bite of the marble pie. But they they don't. All they have is the Spider-Man characters. And you know what I would do if I was Sony? Fuck the Marvel movies. Give it back. Sell it to Disney. You get a good change. OK. And work on
00:44:47
Speaker
you have your own IP believe it or not that they could use a horizon zero dawn movie something with Kratos you're going to tell me you're not going to have a movie based on one of your PlayStation properties you can do it
00:45:03
Speaker
You know, your studios are bleeding money. You know, Sony's not exactly a super healthy company. They're very secular. They've. Yeah, they've. They've. And it's so weird where they've how they've fallen because they used to be like the biggest name in all these areas. But now even in even in video games, like with the the PS5, you know, having so much trouble.
00:45:25
Speaker
getting units out while meanwhile Microsoft is now becoming is now gobbling up all these game studios and the Xbox you know what's the current one you can find him here because Microsoft did the smart thing I mean I know we're very enough a topic for Morby is there but there's a Sony connection here trust me we're gonna get to it to bear with us
00:45:46
Speaker
Microsoft decides to basically we saw this sort of coming. So they said we're going to outfit everybody at the semiconductor company to make the chips. Oh, I see. And that's how they got there. I could walk into any store here and get an Xbox series. And I just got an X. Okay.
00:46:04
Speaker
And now they're announcing a newer system, which is going to be basically plug in the back of your TV that looks like a little thumb drive. Oh, OK. Meanwhile, Sony says we're going to be we're going to start to be OK by 2023. And they're losing money. That's why they announced all these IPs are going to PC. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They announced it. Now, I know as a shareholder of Sony, I know for a fucking fact
00:46:34
Speaker
that unless that PlayStation brand really helps them, the only other money maker they have is their life insurance company. They are the GE of Japan. Yeah. So PlayStation has to really take off. And right now they're in trouble. You know, there is demand for the product. So what do they do? They got a leverage. So the only thing they got are the movie studios. And right now, they've got nothing with the X-Men.
00:46:57
Speaker
They don't have X-Men. That was Fox. That is right. That was Fox. So that's right. Excuse me. Forgive me. Forgive me, gang. Forgive me. You're literally like the second person in like as many weeks who has made that same mistake. So don't worry. You're not alone. Well, you know, I'm glad Fox got rid of it. But even so, what are you going to do with a partial
Ownerships and Rights Issues
00:47:16
Speaker
universe? It's like I invent, I bought half of a McDonald's and I thought the one that works, you know, you know, or
00:47:24
Speaker
You got another incomplete product here. You literally have an incomplete. You cannot, even if you go forward, the fact that you've already connected with the MCU, okay, means that you're gonna have to rely on them down the road more because you've already established this. Spider-Man appeared in Civil War. He appeared in Endgame. He appeared in all these movies, right? And I'm pretty sure, again,
00:47:52
Speaker
They would make so much more money. In fact, I would do this. This way, let somebody else remake Morbius. Look, if you can remake Batman 500 times, you can do with Morbius. OK, remake. In fact, I find it hilarious. Again, look this up. Go on Internet Movie Database. The fan film versions of Morbius score higher than really one from an actual guest. Go look them up. They're all short films and they all get like an eight.
00:48:20
Speaker
okay there was one that came out in 2014 in fact that's it you know and they're shorter films look them up they're probably on youtube and they got higher scores okay dump it dump it's a depreciating ass and fuck them give it to marvel help they'll pay you big money in fact if you still really want to make money and a superhero thing pick another genre i mean dc work with them or something but
00:48:47
Speaker
Well, maybe not. Don't bother with that. No, that's not as radioactive too right now. But your 4K is not superhero movies. It's your IPs. Work on them. Well, I mean, it's just like Morbius himself is not a character that really suits himself to I mean, look, they they had to they had to, you know, scrape the bottom of the barrel, even find a villain for this movie. And then they even still they they just basically created an original character to begin anyway.
00:49:16
Speaker
You know what Morbius would have been great at? Okay. Well, the original plan was he should have been, he was supposed to be the villain in Blade 2. Yeah, well, he obviously dropped the ball on that one. Oh, yeah, obviously. But that was the original plan. Like, he was the, do you remember, you saw Blade 2, right? I've seen all the Blade, I got it one time. In fact, Perry, I just picked up the back set for eight bucks.
00:49:43
Speaker
Well- And, and, and they threw in Goonies. So you had a, so remember in blade two, you had the Jared Nomak character, right? The, the lead neighbor. He was originally, the original script was he was supposed to be Morbius. Morbius was supposed to be that, what that experimentation led to.
00:50:01
Speaker
Why didn't they do that? Because originally, Stephen Norrington was supposed to direct Blade 2 because he had also directed the first one. And he actually was going to have Morbius appear in a cameo at the end of the first Blade movie. But then when he decided not to appear, I don't think they ever even filmed that cameo. And then obviously, the script for the second one was completely changed. I'm not sure if it was because of del Toro was changed or if it was because Goyard or if it was because of rights issues with Morbius or what.
00:50:29
Speaker
But whatever the case, Morbius never ended up in Blade 2. Now picture that. Go ahead, everybody picture that. Imagine a Blade with Morbius right now. How better that would have been if this file is thinking shit. And not only that, well, aren't you redoing Blade? Yeah, MaharshaAllah Ali is going to be playing him in the MCU.
00:50:55
Speaker
In all honesty, instead of the fucking vulture showing up at the end, should have been delayed. They can't because they don't have the rights to that. Because that's MCU. Because if they wanted to have, they have the rights to vulture again. Because the deal is, Sony has all the rights to all the Spider-Man characters. The deal with Marvel they have is that,
00:51:16
Speaker
Marvel gets creative control over the Spider-Man solo films and they can use Spider-Man in MCU films, but then Sony still has full control over all the other Spider-Man movies. So even though Marvel created the Vulture for this version of the Vulture for the MCU, Sony owns the rights to that character in that iteration.
00:51:41
Speaker
Again, they should just sell it back to the marble, to Disney. As for a garbage bag full of money, you know, whatever you want, because I'm willing to bet your marble would like that back. Oh, absolutely. Are you kidding me? I'm marble. Disney would be quicker to buy that back than they were with Fox, I think. The Spider-Man is the biggest, is probably the most recognizable marble character. Right. As for top dollar, you'll get it. Use the money to build up. Again,
00:52:12
Speaker
Would you sooner see another movie like Morbius where they take another Spider-Man property, ring it through the sewage? Or would you sooner then take one of their like a God of War movie? I mean, honestly, at this point, Sony's screwed up so many movies that I just wish they'd sell off. They just sell off the movies. They just get out of making business in general. You know, just farm out the IP to other studios and let them do it.
00:52:39
Speaker
And you know what, you're not the only person that has raised that there's many shareholders that have been telling them you're bleeding money, get rid of it. And they won't do it because they think, Oh, you know, we can build it up to sell some other shit from like their PlayStation. You don't need that. Trust me, just get rid of it. Like I said, you have a whole stable now of IPs you can use. Um,
00:53:05
Speaker
Last, well, in fact, in fact, they are doing that. They're making the last of us movie. I think that is our show. Right. Yeah. You know what? That's the other thing with this Morbius. Would you have been better off with a motion picture or an animated movie?
00:53:19
Speaker
May I see that? I mean, this one, neither. Oh, so you have to apply, you know. No, no, I think doing Morbius in live action, that's perfectly fine. It's not a character that I think you'd have to do in animation. I think you could easily do do it in live action because you don't need as big of a budget for for this as you do for other characters. I think you can easily do Morbius in live action in a way that that works. It's just this wasn't the way to do it.
00:53:45
Speaker
Would this movie have been better off as an animated movie? No, nothing would have made this movie better. Nothing would have made this better, yeah. There's no saving this movie. There's nothing, like it's not that it's a terrible movie. It's just that it's so bland. There's nothing here. It's mediocre. The word you're looking for is. Excessively mediocre. It's so mediocre, right? It's like the, I don't even know how to describe it. It's just so,
00:54:13
Speaker
It's the dry toast of superhero movies, right? It's just, there's, it's not like, you know, you go look at some of the DC movies, right? Like, you know, Batman V Superman. They're fucking terrible. God awful movies. But you know what? You can kind of watch them because of how terrible they are. But you watch something like this and it's not even that it's bad. It's just there.
00:54:42
Speaker
You could sleep through the movie. I did. Five times I fell asleep through this movie. I did. And you know, it took me like three hours to watch the fucking thing because I kept falling asleep. And you miss nothing. You literally can wake up and it's like once in five, 15 minutes ago could have been a continuation. Oh, exactly. I mean, because it's the same thing in Luke. Oh, we're going to eat some people fast forward. I mean, if you eat some people keep forward. Oh, and again, you could predict
00:55:11
Speaker
everything that's gonna happen down the line with this goddamn movie. Well, I mean, that's kind of what I experienced. Cause every time I'd fall asleep and I'd wake up and I'd see, oh crap, I gotta go back. I'd go back, rewind, I'd watch what I missed. Then I'd be like, okay, well, I didn't really miss anything. I could have basically figured that out just from entering. You know what this movie is? This movie can serve a purpose though. We have to find a shining light here, okay? And it's this, if you're doing the dishes and you need background noise,
00:55:40
Speaker
There you go. I mean, I wouldn't even put on that. There's so many other movies that would be, they'd be better because if you're putting on something for background noise, it's something you've seen a lot and you generally enjoy and you can just kind of like, you know, glance over every now and then and be like, Oh yeah, that's a good scene. But this one there's, there's nothing good about it. There's just nothing that there's more plot development and character development in one of those YouTube live feeds of fish.
Moral Conflicts and Missed Opportunities
00:56:07
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And there is this will be
00:56:10
Speaker
I hate to say it, but that's the truth. And again, you're fucked up on the guy's powers. You're fucked up on the care of the villain. You're fucked up. Yeah, the back control was so weird. I couldn't figure out where that came from. Yeah. You know, all this stuff. Oh, you know, again, I feel bad for Matt Smith. Yeah. I don't feel bad for Jared Harris. I think he does it to pay off gambling debts or something. I don't know. But Matt Smith, I honestly, I guess, I don't know what he's gonna do now.
00:56:39
Speaker
Could you even use him in an MCU? Could you actually could use him in an MCU movie? Just you can't use him as the same character. Right. You couldn't use the same character because Sony owns the rights. But I mean, yeah, I mean, he's such a good actor. Why not? If he wants to if he'd be willing to do another superhero movie after this. I mean, that's the question. But you know what? Also, too, I want to go. This is the this is the thing, too, about Morbius is that Morbius in the comics is, you know,
00:57:12
Speaker
story right this whole idea of like you know i have to drink blood to survive but i don't want to hurt anyone so i end up preying on criminals right and like the whole moral quandary about that and that's that's stuff you can that stuff just doesn't exist in this movie that more i would love to see that see in an odd way matt smith was doing that in an hour not with criminals mind you but
00:57:32
Speaker
Got this very conflicted.
00:57:40
Speaker
It's something that leaders should have been doing with criminals. You could have had a bunch of examples of girl getting mugged or something bad, you know, or those guys stealing blood out of an ambulance that would have been ironic. But you know, some other shit. I mean, I don't know if I would kill somebody over counter for $100 bills. But, you know, what if they were running a meth lab? What if it was child porn? What if it was a something? You're telling me
00:58:07
Speaker
You couldn't have come up with more angles for him to fight this conflict. I guess, although the only time you ever see this conflict in him is when he has to tell the lady, that's it. When he has to tell us, you know, what's her name? Marti. Marti, that's how bad the movie is. I can't remember her name.
00:58:27
Speaker
You know, I feel I don't want to do this. I, you know, the, the, the fake blood is going to wear out. I'm going to have to start doing it, but fuck don't tell that that there's too much exposition. Just go find some bad guys, eat their, drink their blood and they'd be done with that. You know, I mean, and then a movie was filmed in a time where you could have gone after skinheads or, or right wing idiots or some fucking thing, you know, uh, even just a bankrupt one. I mean, not a big problem, but you know what I mean. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think.
00:58:57
Speaker
Cause what has Sony done? Like I'm looking over their list of movies. Like the, I mean, they've got the Jumanji films and that's, and I guess that they still have, they still have the bond file license. I don't think so. I got to check. But you know, they've got the Jumanji films and that's basically, well, I'm not sure. I didn't see the new Ghostbusters yet. Have you seen that? No, but I find it interesting. You know what? There's a weird thing with that movie.
00:59:26
Speaker
They had pumped that movie up over a year and a half ago before release. And then it completely disappeared. Well, obviously, because of the pandemic. Right. And then there was hints of them going to streaming. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, like six months ago, or three months ago, you saw ads for this movie everywhere. And they had it in theaters for like literally two weeks. And now I'm seeing it online for streaming. So, you know, I don't know what happened there. It's like,
00:59:56
Speaker
That's another thing that they fucked up. Because now you can buy all three movies in one set for five bucks in my Walgreens, which I may go and that's what I'm gonna pick up. But the thing is, that's another one they're going to destroy. I hate to say that, because they're not doing anything with cost processing. Sat on this movie, you could have streamed it, because everybody was streamed it, and then you make your money with the sequel.
01:00:22
Speaker
Right. But I mean, they've got all these like I'm looking over the list of stuff they own the rights to like they own the equalizer. That was they did good with that. Those are good. But they've got the Terminator rights. They're not really doing anything with that. They were terrible with the Terminator movies. Right. And I'm not. But they've got they've got Dragon Ball. Right. They haven't done other than the the show live action movie. Right. But they that's another property they're not doing anything with.
01:00:51
Speaker
The Jump Street series is done. That was good, though. The Insidious series, I don't know if those are still going or not. I think they were done with those. I mean, I'll tell you another bad one. And I don't know if it qualified. I mean, not bad, but it was not great. It was Uncharted, which, again, a Sony video game property.
01:01:11
Speaker
That was not, I hate to say it, but Wahlberg was better in father's school than he wasn't uncharted. I mean, that movie was so miscast. Well, I mean, they've also got the men in black license too. They, you know, they made that in men in black international. That was not that great.
01:01:26
Speaker
Now, again, you know what? It's sort of like if you find out Sony's gonna be involved, you don't want nothing to do with this movie. Yeah, I mean, the only things, the only franchises they seem to really having any success with, so they do have the Bond franchise, but now that iteration is- Resident Evil. That's the only one. The other two most, from what I can tell, that have been really successful besides the random movies, in terms of making money, has been the Resident Evil and Hotel Transphobia. No, no, I'd say the Jumanji films.
01:01:55
Speaker
And the Jumanji films. Because actually, yeah, the Resident Evil one doesn't appear on their list of 25 highest grossing films. But the Jumanji films, Venom and
01:02:10
Speaker
And that's probably it. Those are like the, and the Bond series, but that's, that version of it is gone now. So who knows what's going to happen with it going forward. They should just buy a successful studio, transfer all their movies to that, shut that down because they don't know what the fuck to do it. I'm sorry. They don't know what to do with. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what are you going to do? I mean, what is your next movie in terms of coming up with a superhero?
01:02:39
Speaker
Oh, with superheroes, I have no idea. I know they've been talking about doing Black Cat for a while. Also, Spider Woman has been in the talks for a while. I think the next thing that actually got going is the sequel to Enter the Spider-Verse. Oh, you know they're going to run with that. Right. That's been doing well.
01:03:05
Speaker
Oh, they've got they've got Craven coming out soon with Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Future Projects and Speculations
01:03:11
Speaker
Oh, boy, that's going to be interesting. Yeah. Have you heard anything about that? No, I haven't heard anything about it, so I don't know what's happening with it. I mean, it's supposedly coming out next year in January.
01:03:26
Speaker
Across the Spider-Verse is coming next summer. Apparently they're also doing, Madam Webb is the other one that's next up. That's for next summer as well. Starring Dakota Johnson. This is the weird one, El Puerto.
01:03:42
Speaker
with musician Bad Bunny. Like this is an obscure Spider-Man character that was introduced in 2006 and he's like a Mexican wrestler and they're giving and they're giving him his own movie. Cause they're trying to capitalize, I guess on this musician success, which is just, I mean, probably, you know, I don't understand is why don't they just try to
01:04:06
Speaker
get Emma Stone to be the Gwen Stacy spider woman and do a ghost spider movie or something. Now that would be nice. I mean, it's just like, it's such an obvious thing, right? Do that. Do a ghost spider movie with an actress everybody loved in the role, with a character everybody loved from the comics and from into the spider verse. It's a no brainer, but they're giving us El Muerto instead. And I don't get why. It's just more proof of just how
01:04:34
Speaker
little sense they're operating with at that studio. They don't know what they're doing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, right. I mean, you you specifically take this character, make him black so that you can cast Tyreese Gibson, who's like one of the worst fucking black actors you can find. Well, again, I'm beginning to suspect this movie is a producer's situation. Remember the producers to play the movie?
01:05:05
Speaker
You remember that when they make a bad play? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, Perry, this is so bad that I think it was intensely sad, but we need something to, you know, slush of money around. You know, we both film strategy. Yes, I'm telling you, this is what the maybe maybe you got to bring back you a ball, you know.
01:05:29
Speaker
I don't know, but I'll tell you one thing. This movie was not designed or made to make money. It's just like, yeah. And it's just Jared Leto just stop. Please just stop. He needs a break. He needs a break. He needs to take some vitamins because if you see what he looks like outside of the movies, he looks like he's got problems. You know, Jared Leto, I mean, um,
01:06:00
Speaker
I kind of think now what the fuck last good movie I liked him in. I mean, he was okay. I was gonna say the Blade Runner sequel. Yes. Yes. See, that's interesting. You brought that up. Okay. See there.
01:06:19
Speaker
He does play an interesting villain.
Acting Approaches and Critiques
01:06:21
Speaker
He's not a good, good guy. Sit this right out of it. In most of these movies, he comes off as a creep, even when he's a good guy, okay? Yes, he's good at changing his personality, literally becoming somebody else. But even when he's somebody else, he comes off like a pedophile or something, or a guy in the van, or, you know, he comes off like the guy that visits the high school when he's like 35, you know, or some shit like that in the parking lot, you know what I mean?
01:06:47
Speaker
He but he plays a better villain. I almost want to say I wish they switched Matt Smith and Jared Leto around in this movie. I mean, could you imagine Jared Jared Leto is Lou, Lou, Lou, whatever. Lucian and Lucian and and Matt Smith as Morbius. Um.
01:07:09
Speaker
would have been better than Lido. It would have been better. Yeah, I mean, it won't fit. It won't fit. You know, it's like putting jello in a glove. It doesn't mean anything. But it would have been better than the shit that went in that club. And again, Jared Lido is not a good guy character. I'm sorry. Even when he's a villain in the Joker. He, you know, I mean, I don't care for his Joker. Oh, God, it was terrible.
01:07:38
Speaker
But you know what? That was more natural than him as Morbius. I hate to say that. Let's be honest. He comes off as creepy and greasy and he should stick to creepy and greasy and not being the good guy. I just figured I'm just done with him. Like I just, I'm, I'm so sick of his, him and his method acting bullshit. Like it's just, you know,
01:08:01
Speaker
He's not that good of an actor. And this whole method acting thing, just like Robert Pattinson said, it seems like some people use method acting as an excuse to be an asshole. Yes, yes. I mean, also to phone it in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just. I kind of think of who is a really terrible method actor.
01:08:31
Speaker
Well, I mean, Jared Leto. That's a good answer. Jared Leto, yeah. Jared Leto. I think who else? I mean, there's a lot of couple of good ones, but, you know, they're rare. Daniel Day Lewis is one. I mean, Christian Bale are both, I believe method actors. I couldn't be wrong. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I still love what you heard the story about when they were making Marathon Man, about Laurence Olivier and Dustin Hoffman.
01:08:59
Speaker
No. So Dustin Hoffman comes in and he's like sleep deprived and he says, and Lawrence Olivier asked him, he's like, what's wrong? And Dustin Hoffman says, oh, well, you know, my character is supposed to be sleep deprived. So I, you know, I got into character for that, for that, for the, for the shot. And then Lawrence Olivier just says to him, he's like, my dear boy, you should try acting.
01:09:21
Speaker
Yeah, again, very few actors really, really can pull that off well. Well, yeah. And also there's another one too. I was listening to, do you watch Succession?
01:09:33
Speaker
Yeah. Better believe I do. Okay. So I just been getting into it myself. I'm on the third season now. And, um, but Brian Cox was on with Ari Melber a few months back and he was talking about, um, one of his, uh, act, one of the, one of his co-stars on the show. And he was talking about how the guys like gets really into, he was really into the method acting thing. And then, and Brian Cox, like, and he's like, I just don't understand that. He's like, at the end of the day, it's just make believe.
01:10:00
Speaker
It's like Jared Lina will lose all this weight, but I don't see the gain weight for playing the guy that kills or tried to kill President Reagan. You know, I don't know if you saw that movie again. No, no, again, he's good at being creepy and greasy. Yeah. Don't be the good guy. In fact, you're not a main act. Very rarely. He cannot really pull off.
01:10:25
Speaker
being the main character in a movie. No, definitely. He's a background character, a side character, you know, a B character. He's the number two. He's going to be Robin, not Batman. And barely he's not even barely Robin. He's more like like like like a phone in Alfred or something. Right. But forget it. Don't use it for fucking anything else as a main character. You know,
01:10:52
Speaker
No, this is a straight to folks. This was a straight to video. Wait for it. If you really want to watch this terrible movie on a streaming platform, or say, well, I'm not going to sell the high seas, but it's just not worth pay. No, I won't even buy this to bargain. It's not even you know what, this is not isn't like a stocking stuffer for somebody you hate at the Christmas party.
01:11:18
Speaker
okay that's what that's what it is don't bother with this movie wait just wait yeah yeah it's just it's not it's and like i said it's not even that it's bad like all all these people talking about how it's the worst it's not the worst movie ever it's just no it's just boring it's just there's nothing
01:11:39
Speaker
There's nothing worth watching it. I mean, I guess some of the effects are pretty cool. I like how they did the Morbius design. It's very true to the comics. I thought that looked good, but other than that, it's just there's nothing else to this. It's soulless. Yeah. I mean, not even Michael Keaton's, even Michael Keaton is just like so pissed off that he's in this movie. Yeah, right. It's just, again, special effects are really good. They are really good.
01:12:07
Speaker
But you know what, it's like they put in a what it is, quote unquote, movie is is a sequence of special effects that just happens to have a movie in there somewhere. Yeah, yeah. It's it's it's somewhere in there, but it's not there. OK, it's like I said, it looks more like a video game. When I saw them fight, I was expecting a health bar to show up or something and, you know, something like that, like you would see in a video game. Right. Because.
01:12:32
Speaker
Go ahead. If people dispute me on this, compare this to a regular video game with cutscenes. Yeah. Like, you know, it's the same thing. I'm sorry, the acting is just as bad. Again, there's some good Sony video games that do have good acting like Last of Us. But this, it does not look like a movie to me. Again, my mother comes in
01:12:56
Speaker
and thinks I'm playing a video game. That's how bad, that's how bad it is. If there's no, you know, it's a wasted potential. That's what the, when you, that's what you'd be on the box cover of this movie, wasted potential. What more can you say about it? It's wasted, you're wasted Matt Smith.
01:13:21
Speaker
uh you wasted Jared Harris I would dare say even wasted the fake Greek kids okay and because he wasted that uh I don't think you wasted Jared Lido I know Jared you know Jared Lido unfortunately plays Jared Lido
01:13:40
Speaker
in some of these, when he doesn't, when he doesn't really go in character, he goes into as Jared Leto. Have you ever seen Jared Leto in real life? When you say show him when he's not acting, he kind of acts like this character when he's on a vampire, you know, like, like, like he's been up all night and he's got no personality whatsoever. And
01:14:03
Speaker
Oh yeah, absolutely. It's sort of like, you know, I mean, and unfortunately you're seeing this with more and more actors that they don't play the character. They play so-and-so as, like, I'm trying to think of... Oh, what the hell's that character's name? Who was in... You know what? I hate when I have bright hearts.
01:14:32
Speaker
Like Nicholas Cage will play Nicholas Cage. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, you know, Derek used to say that whenever Nicholas Cage is being lazy, he just falls back on doing an Elvis impersonation.
01:14:42
Speaker
Right, you know, or George Clooney is going in and he's playing George Clooney. Oh yeah, all the time. And I'm saying, you're saying this now in a way, I don't think Jared Leader is a method actor anymore. I think he's just giving up and he's like, I'm just gonna be me. Nobody can tell the difference. I have no personality, I'm cardboard. You know, you know, the Hollywood right, the Hollywood system's gonna pay me because this is probably a tax write off for something for the studio.
01:15:10
Speaker
Yeah, they need a loss somewhere, because they made a lot of money over here in some movies, you know, they're rolling in that hotel Transylvania movie, right? movies money, they're rolling out which that amazes the shit I mean, that that makes a lot of money. But you know, you ever seen Hotel Transylvania? No.
01:15:28
Speaker
It's an animated movie with Adam Sandler. And that movie made more fucking money than these things. This shit, okay? And so that's what it is. This is a text write-off, some sort of shelter. You're gonna watch, you're gonna read in the Hollywood Reporter, somebody arrested because this was all done for embezzlement or some money laundering. Yeah, it's just not that good. No.
01:15:54
Speaker
Yeah, that's it. That's all there is to say about it. It's just- It's a bad movie, folks. It's a bad movie. It's not even aggressively bad. It's just so mediocre and just such a snore. In fact, you know what? Stop. Stop.
01:16:10
Speaker
I think we should pull back the word bad because there are bad movies that are worth watching because they're that bad. Yeah, like Santa versus the Martians. That's bad. Okay, the the Lost in Space movie. That's bad. Okay. This this is not bad, though.
01:16:28
Speaker
Bad is like, oh, that movie fucking steaks, that movie shit. You know, this is not shit. This is like when a really bad movie, you're like, it's the kind of thing you tell your friends, like, oh, my God, we have to watch this. It's so terrible. It's like you want a really good steak, but you decided to go to Denny's.
01:16:46
Speaker
You know, something like that. You want a good hamburger until you decided to go to McDonald's, you know, or something like that. This is the McDonald's of superhero movies. Yeah. You know, it's like the chicken nuggets.
01:17:00
Speaker
Okay, it's not even a real chicken tender and it's not a shitty chicken nugget. It's like high school cafeteria chicken nugget. You're not getting nothing out of this. These are tater tots. It's not even a lemon of a movie. Yeah, yeah, it's just bad. All right, anyway, Johnny, I think that's all we have to say about Morbius. Do you got anything you want to promote? Anything you want to direct people towards?
Community Support and Podcast Promotion
01:17:30
Speaker
No, no, no, but hey, yes, there is something this time of year at your local animal shelters is when they start to raise money for the fall. If you have, you know, if you have any extra money to donate to your local animal shelter or time, they really could use volunteers. Please do so. Look up your local animal shelter.
01:17:53
Speaker
Okay, yeah, very good. Very good. And you know, don't just adopt an animal because if you're not serious about it, because there's that whole thing going on with a lot of people adopting during the pandemic. So don't do that. I see a lot of returnees. We don't, my mother and I and my aunt, we go to the local shelter, we donate blankets, because they really could use blankets.
01:18:13
Speaker
And there was a lot of dogs and cats that were adopted while the pandemic had been returned. So if you have time to donate, they really could use help. If you can just foster something, that would be great. But don't read this fucking movie. Yeah, definitely not. All right, Johnny. Well, thanks so much for coming back on. I would say I'm sorry I made you watch this, but it was your it was you're the one who asked me about it. So hey, hey, listen, somebody had to take one for the team. Yeah. OK.
01:18:42
Speaker
I'd be more than happy to do it. And next time I'm just gonna drink more liquor. Yeah. All right, Johnny. Well, thanks so much for coming back. And yeah, I got to see if you come back again, hopefully talk about a better movie next time. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
01:18:58
Speaker
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01:20:38
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