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It is. The Fantasy Robias. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody gambled that. Collusion. Collusion.
Introduction and Host Experiences
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Hey, everybody, welcome back. It is the fancy rugby podcast. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. We back. I'm back. Yeah, I did not get spit out by the UK. Little shoot up, but not spit out. There you go. Pop this. There we go. I got one of those popping bottles or cans, whichever one. Yeah.
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As always, download your favorite on your favorite podcast app. Share all that good stuff. Great review, great review that one. So yeah, I'm rusty. I already Jesus week off and I'm already boned. I will say that
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There's a lot of beer consumed. I imagine. I mean, that was there for a fucking week, man. What do you think was going to happen? Right. I know how much we consumed in like two days, so. But a bit of whiskey, too. Bit of whiskey, too. I would. I expect. Yeah, the woman on the train from Edinburgh to London, the woman's like, like, Catherine went to grab a snack from the snack car and I was like, can you get me a cider? Badgers. And the woman's just like, well, it's
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It's one for four or two for six. I was like, yeah, I knew exactly what to do. She's like, just give me two. It could be four for 12. Yeah, because that's a fairly long train line. It's like four hours or so. Right. So I was like, yeah, definitely need one of these. Yeah. I mean, it was good. It was nice. We played crib. I
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Nice. Read a little bit. We watched some movies. It was pretty low-key day for sure, but yeah. So, alive and well, just the same.
Appreciation for Fantasy Rugby Geek
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Equality in Sports Discussion
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Of course, there is no discrimination here on this podcast, nor should there be in sports or in life. And all I know is that we all give a fuck over here. I do. So take that you. Yeah, I mean, it's just you're still feeling free to say who gives a fuck about women's rugby. It's like East.
00:03:20
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You're clearly like head in sand or under a rock or whatever the fuck you want to call it if you're still of that mentality. Right. Because at this point, you just you don't seem to get it, that it's actually a draw. Right. Like we're at the part of, you know, the League of the Rhone where the lackey is like, wait, I can sell this. Like I can sell this product. Yeah. And you're going to be there and be like, nah, fuck it. Who cares? Just women. Like that's no.
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No, no, don't unacceptable like that's what has to change like that. That's not a this person's mentality has
Challenges in Rugby Leadership
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to change. It's no that they're they just have to go because from their position of authority, like wherever they are, like.
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They're not going to change. They're obviously they don't care like for so many reasons, let alone discrimination. But now you're just kind of cutting off your nose to spite your face. And it's just stupid. Like we're seeing that it's obviously stupid beyond just discriminatory. But that's also the point. Like when you discriminate, you cut off opportunities like that. I try to make it for, you know, dude, it's easy to be like, no, you're just an asshole. But at the same time, you're an asshole and you're cutting off opportunities.
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Like, why would you do that as a person involved in growing an organization? Just. So I'm not always just going to hammer away at them. It's going to be like, look, there's incentive. Here's the carrot. That's a good idea. But no, fuck that.
00:04:50
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Why do that? You obviously don't get it yet. You never will. No, there's definitely people that it's like, you have no hope. You're clearly just stuck in your ways. And that's fine for you, but you're making decisions for other people and you really don't, you're not fit to do it. Exactly. Well, and especially looking at like, team we'll talk about a little bit here, Ireland, what's being done for them?
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You know, this is like, I'm gonna get into it more deeply, but like, that is just one very obvious example of people making decisions that don't need to be. So, anywho, I give a fuck and that is all that matters. And I saw people were like upset, I heard at least that people were upset that, oh, the signs in the stadium, like the kids are watching and they're like,
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Yeah, kids are watching that and they really, they should realize that your union's leadership doesn't give a fuck about women like that. This is their words, like out of hearts. We're responding to what they said. And that's, yeah, that's exactly right. People will find any reason to be like, oh, the children, shut the fuck up. They're at a rugby match. Please. You've said worse. Are you telling me you're bringing your child to a rugby match and you're gonna,
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be like upset about what they're going to hear. If that was the case, then don't bring them to the rookie match. Yeah, I wouldn't bring them to sports period if you were worried about that. Yeah, because you're going to hear some shit and it's most likely going to be hilarious. And you know what? In the end, they're not going to know what the hell is going on anyway. So and they're not going to remember it except that they're going to remember that you freaked out about something and they never understood it. Probably right.
Coaching Philosophy and Sensitivity
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That's it. So quit bitchin. Come on. Let's let's be honest.
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I coach high school kids, you know, great age kids. And oh, you shouldn't curse. Have you met me? Like I don't do it just because I want to curse. I do it to emphasize points. I'm not throwing out F-bombs left, right and center, but sometimes it just comes to a point like where, you know, there are days where you get, it's like,
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Boys, what the fuck are we doing? You know, oh my God, you said the FBI. And none of them do it, obviously. Parents are very understanding. They're like, listen, I know you're not doing it to be an asshole. And I know if we have a parent that is like,
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like that and this kid's going to play rugby, they're probably not going to last anyway. Right. Exactly. This is not for sensitive years. Again, it's funny that we're talking about no discrimination, but we're sensitive to things that fucking matter. Language, shut up. Shut the fuck up.
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Words that you use every day in your life and oh my god, because someone saw it on TV. Yeah, that's not really how it works, guys. And I've realized that I would never, like at coaching college now, I've realized that if I had to coach a place that would not let me curse, like at a high school or something like that, I would be screwed. Because... Yeah, like one of the private schools, forget it. I would never be able to get a job at one of those places.
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I, yeah, I don't. I mean, I would get it. I would get it. I just wouldn't be able to keep it because it just happened. Yeah. There are reports that you said that you said shit. Yes, I did. That's the only thing that got me on. Damn. Right. Right. Like I remember like we, you know, because I think at one point, like, um,
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One of my high school coaches, I know like, but the guy was my, my football coach would curse every so often. And when he did, it was like, Ooh, okay. We screwed up. Right. And that's usually, that's the point. It's to emphasize something and it's not, you know, yeah. And like, and also like, I don't like yelling. So same idea. Well, you know, it's just, it has a, it has, it just opens their eyes a little bit more sometimes. And that's not something that, you know, you love to do, but sometimes it can be done. That's just how it is. Yeah.
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Um, anywho, especially for a good cause. Yeah, absolutely.
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TikTok Six Nations Recap
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Right. There's generally no cursing in the analytics. So it's generally not. Yeah. That's usually not unless it's somebody getting the analytics and going fuck.
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I mean, probably don't need to do a whole lot of wrapping up with Ireland, England in terms of the actual match. Yeah, unfortunately. Right. But it's just a shame because they're not again, that's a that's clearly a team that's not being fully supported. No. And they deserve better and the fans deserve better.
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Completely. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. And England are very supported. Yeah, that is the gap. They're good. Yeah, not to say that the players aren't good. But it's just like... It's just annoying to see this type of gap knowing that there's something that could be done.
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You know, it's more annoying this way as opposed to like when Italy were getting the shit kicked out of them for the men, every fucking six nations. And now that's not the case. It was more annoying because like, all right, you guys are doing something else wrong besides, you know, money, because they clearly had the money.
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but they were just doing something else wrong. So that's a little less annoying than this. This is like, you guys have the money and the resources to support these women, but you refuse to. That's really fucking annoying. That's why I'm like, just I feel for these. I feel for these girls. Yeah, I feel bad. Not much else to be fair, I suppose.
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Yeah. And the worst part is that everybody sees it and everybody, but like, I wouldn't, I like it's frustrating for them because they're like, Oh, we have everybody's pity. Well, fuck that. I don't, I don't, I don't want that. I want, like, I want to be good. Like I want to support. Right. You know, it's like pity is, is, is makes it that it cuts that much deeper as the players. Like, uh, you know, I think I saw Nicola Friday in the afters, like.
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Obviously unhappy, I mean, you just got spanked, but at the same time, it's like there's more to it. If every loss is that, it's like the whole idea of how winning heals wounds kind of thing, it's like the opposite. It's like losing everything that is just going wrong. And it's very visibly and very publicly going wrong. It's compounded by the losing. Yes. It builds on itself and it makes me pity.
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Pity again, it's fractal. God damn it. Yeah, it's not fun. Not fun anyway. Slice it. Right. Yeah. Scotland 29 and Italy 21 Scotland get their first one of the comp. And that is good for them. Like this, this, this to me was the most compelling matchup because of course, you know, this could just go either way. Yep.
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And there really aren't many matches that are like that in this competition. So, um, yeah, a lot of, you know, a lot of good stuff for Scotland. Um, not bad stuff for, for Italy. It's just Scotland. We're better on the day. Mm hmm. Also, you know, the discipline limit and the yellow and red and all that, that doesn't help. Cards can kill you. It's not that, you know, cards are going to just, like we said, cards don't ruin matches. So shut the fuck up about that shit. Um,
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But yes, cards can hurt you. Yeah, I don't think I heard Rob Baxter complaining about that this weekend. We'll get to that later. Spoiler alert. Yeah, right. But it's just, yeah, no, it'll do you in if you let it. Let's put it that way. I think that's probably the best way to put it. Of course, Chloe Rawley is just still a machine.
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Kind of. Yeah. Okay. She's all right. Yeah. I mean, they need to do everything in their power to make sure she doesn't want to go back to sevens. Right? You know, they really do because if she becomes a full-time 15th player for this World Cup cycle, she could be somebody that gets them into the knockouts.
00:14:12
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Yeah. And maybe further. Oh, yeah. Maybe further. Just her talent alone. Yeah. And especially if they can build a little bit, you know, they have to have some time to build going into it like. Right. And, you know, there'll be other players that sign up and say, I want to play next to Chloe Raleigh. Exactly. You know, I want to play next to Chloe Raleigh. Yeah. Right. Who does point be that but that like talent like that will attract more talent. Yeah, definitely.
00:14:39
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That is definitely the, and, and maybe she gets some of her friends from, from sevens to come over and hang out. Yeah. And we'll see. Yeah. We'll see how that goes with the sevens though. They're there. I think the last I saw the GB sevens were picking quite a few English. So maybe she, maybe they're safe from that. We'll see. Anywho. But then of course France were able to get, shake away the, the Welsh just, just, just enough.
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Well, I mean, yeah, they were up 29, nothing and a half. It was kind of over, you know, and that was kind of, uh, it's that's that to me, that's actually really disappointing for whales. Cause they had done so well in so many matches up to this point and just, uh, you know, and after getting, you know, throttled by England, I would think that that would kind of be like, okay, we do need to step it up a level when we play, you know, these two big teams and you know, 15 59 and 39.
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without a whole lot to show for it. Although they put a couple on the board this time around. They did. But still. Right. And not not exactly late. I mean, you know, not exactly garbage time. There was 51 or 56 minutes. So it's still not outside the realm of possibility at that point. But at the same time, there was a little too little too late. But that's I mean, to me, I kind of expect that from from this Welsh team versus this French team. I know this isn't
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this French team is a step down from what they have been. And that's not like, I mean, they still have like, and they still have more than enough talent to, that they should be taking care of Wales like this. So yeah, this, I wouldn't be too disappointed for Wales. If anything, I'd be like, we scored 14.
00:16:37
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That's a positive. Their friends are always going to score points. And really, to keep them under 40, I think, is a feat.
00:16:49
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for where whales have been. Maybe that's true. I mean, look at what France have put up. They put up 55 on Scotland, 53 on Ireland. Only 22 on Italy. Italy brought up that game, though. We talked about that. But that's the effort you're going to have to bring. And that was easy. That was at home. Whales are on the road this time. It's a lot to expect for them to really compete in this match.
00:17:15
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You know, to bring it with, you know, in touching distance within, you know, before the final quarter of the game. All right. Let's like, that's, that's something now you got to work to, to hit that stride earlier and, and really, uh, make it a match earlier. Right. Okay. Let's go to the penultimate weekend in the prem.
00:17:43
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And I believe it's almost over. I like this season, right? It went from like, wow, the season's really long to holy shit. The season's almost over. Yeah. And of course, all the bullshit that happened at the beginning did not help.
Premiership Rugby Recap
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No means with. Oh, yeah, exactly. It's been it's been emotional this year. Yeah, it's been quite quite a roller coaster for obviously many.
00:18:06
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Let's go up to Kingston though. I actually considered spending the night in Newcastle and going to this game. Kind of glad I did. I would have seen the show. Yeah, it would have been, I mean, yeah, it would have been a fireworks show, but it would have been one way. Yeah. Apart from the Radwan tribe, that was it. That was it. That was it. And 66 points. Good Lord. They knew that he had to do the job and do it as best as they could. So that's why they came out with just decided, we're going guns blazing right now.
00:18:37
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They really were, holy shit. I mean, um, Mitchell Collins in the first 15 to respond to the Radwin try, uh, you know, the truck to finish off the half and.
00:18:55
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You know, you come back out with Hill, Finn Smith and Mitchell. Again, getting over. Yeah. And then Sam Graham. Fucking fantastic name. Once that one. Yeah. I mean, I think once, you know, Mitchell's second goes over, it's like, yeah, it's it. Yeah. Like even Finn's try what was like. All right.
00:19:18
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The back is officially broken. Like you can be nice now. No, no. And then Mitchell scores. And then they knew, well, they needed to put a number up because if it came down to it with a point differential, they had to do all they could, even if, you know, it might have felt a little too little too late, but hey, if you're quitting already, then you don't deserve to be anywhere near the playoff. Right. So that's what they had to do. Honestly, it made it, it would have made a difference. Um,
00:19:47
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Yeah, because I mean, well, it's not so much for Exeter. They were kind of out of it at that point. They know they eliminated Exeter when they won. I think something like that. I believe. Which was awesome. But yeah, they needed to make sure that they're in a position where. Irish can't I mean, the point differential at that point didn't really matter so much as the.
00:20:13
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Certainly the points for the bonus because that meant that salaries could take out or could eliminate the Irish completely. So there was no other way like, you know, exiles.
00:20:27
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The point differential was too high there. Plus 55 Lester plus 73 now, you know, XR minus 60, but again, they eliminated. So they got eliminated pretty early. And as Denzel Washington said, and remember that in remember the Titans leave no doubt. And they did not.
00:20:47
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Right. They left absolutely no doubt in this match. They just had fun. They were like, well, we're going to I mean, look, they're going to need to score points against Sarri's and at least they're going to need to attack like that against Sarri's because that Falcons really didn't test the defense. No. Nearly as much as they should have. Correct. Leaky, leaky.
00:21:11
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And I, oh, and it's great. It was one of the matches where there's no stats. So that's always fun. Thanks for my ship. You bunch of freaking morons. I love your fucking website. Love it. It's so nice. Well, speaking of those shit bags, let's go to Exeter and.
00:21:30
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It's not one I got to tune into much myself. And now that you said you hadn't watched much of it either. I just watched it. I just like before this and it got me in a really foul mood because like I didn't I kind of I was spoiled for me as to the ending. But like I kind of wanted to see it for myself to observe it. And I was disappointed. Bristol really just shot the bed at many times throughout this match. And especially at the end when they just they had the
00:22:00
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nine-point lead and all they had to do to was kind of sit on it and they just couldn't keep their discipline and couldn't keep out the Exeter and Yeah There's nothing like add to me that this match was more, you know, whatever that ended up You know I felt bad for Bristol because like they I think they really wanted it and they really wanted to send pat lamb out on a high note this year and certainly they want to qualify for
00:22:30
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Champions Cup if they can. Yeah, that's looking tough now, though. Yeah, definitely. Like that, I think that's more than anything they wanted to get that for Pat and themselves, obviously, too. Exeter, though, it was interesting to see who they honored for their last match at Sandy Park and who they decided to kind of just be like, yeah, OK, see you.
00:22:58
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Um, like the players who were retiring all got a very fond farewells and, and all that. And like nothing really for Sam Simmons, Joe Simmons, Noel, um, who, all the other guys who are moving on, we're just kind of like, yeah, bye. Seems inappropriate. Wow. Okay. Um, better much like they've, these guys did so much for your club and yeah, they're moving on. Like, Hey, there there's all of them are moving on for a reason. Hmm.
00:23:28
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And be like, don't you owe that, like, I'm sorry, Sam Simmons is a little bit more important to the success of Exeter than, than Ian Whitten has ever been. Like, um, I get, like, it's like, but you're only going to honor Ian, like that's.
00:23:46
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And like Stuart Hogg, his performance for Exeter has been subpar at best. Like, these guys want shit for you. They brought you hardware. They were knighted. And you're just going to be like, cool. Good luck. Good luck in your future endeavors. Yeah. OK, bye.
00:24:05
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Yeah. That always goes well. You wonder why people fucking get pissed when they go out. I kind of. Yeah. And maybe I'm maybe I'm seeing things because it's like I don't particularly like Exeter, but I'm still the opinion that I don't particularly like Exeter because this is the way they do things. Yeah. Haven't done much to sway the other. And I heard the chant way too many times. So. Yeah.
00:24:33
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Let's go to the next one, because that was a fun one. Yeah. Oh, but you know what? There's no match report. Oh, son of a shitbag. Yeah. So there is another one. Oh, that's right. Yeah, this one I had to do the lineups was annoying. Oh, wow. There's nothing there. No, there was something there before. Holy shit. It went backwards. Wow. I could get to like the lineups at least before. Oh, God.
00:25:03
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Yeah, anyway. Yeah, because I did the I've done a lot of the prem sheet. I just haven't I don't think I filled in the scores yet. I've done everything out like the lineups and the minutes and the the position groups and all that. I just haven't put in the raw scores from the weekend. So that'll be coming tomorrow. But yeah, I at least did all that from the site. That's that's annoying. It's annoying anyway, but
00:25:33
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Overall, disappointing from Quinn's and disappointing from Quinn's. Yeah. I don't think there's any other way to put it. But on the other hand, you know, could this be a preview of the type of stuff we see next year from Bath? I think so. See, that's my I think.
00:25:56
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To me, this is more of bath, a statement of baths, intent, and they're starting to come together around the own then grand system, and his, his preferences and his personality.
00:26:11
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It usually takes, you know, a season to start getting that and especially the players that he's brought, like the Worcester plays that they brought in. I mean, look at the Worcester Exiles too, who made this match. You know, Nick David on the other side, although he left before they pooped out, but still he left versus, you know, a lot of his old mates and Ted Hill was like,
00:26:33
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vital to this match. Ollie Lawrence. He played a small part. How good is that, fella? Goodness. Oh, he's so good. And, like, Koken Asiga was ridiculous. He is back to some of his best, undoubtedly. And I think he and Lawrence are making each other better, too. I totally agree with that. I totally agree with that. Yep, absolutely.
00:27:00
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Oh, no. You know, Jomo showed well this one is, but, you know, he's good that they tried to to really to put it away. But he had he's he's he's been a solid contributor this season. And that's, you know, they still have like, Bailey was was pretty good.
00:27:20
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Yeah, wasn't Marcus Smith had it like it's weird. I feel like Marcus Smith quietly had himself a day because there were a lot of fireworks around him. He was causing some of them. But I mean, with bath scoring, it was kind of hard to not notice that. Right. Whereas he had the day he usually has in the prem like he wasn't bad. Yeah, I'm sure. The defense will the defense coach for cleanse just be absolutely the limit. Right. Because that was like defended in this game.
00:27:49
Speaker
Right. It's kind of like that NFL rule. Like, if you score 30, you better fucking win. Something like that. Yeah, right. Like, 20 is one thing. 30, especially 30 at home to Beth. I didn't realize it's a twig, not at home, but it's at home. Yeah, the last time they played here, they just absolutely dismantled Exeter.
00:28:10
Speaker
Yeah. So to me, it's much more of a statement from Beth and like, first off, to be playing like this, this late in the season. I mean, Quinn's are also, you know, as mentioned to Bristol, Quinn's are playing for a Champions Cup berth next year. Right. That's that's part of what this match was. If they could come away with a five point
00:28:32
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win, they're almost, you know, they have to get, you know, a single point, essentially, or so to, or, you know, two points to clinch champions cup. And they only got one point and yeah, not good. Good for bath for front and up though. Fuck. I love to see that. Absolutely. I will say in terms of champions cup, because they are reformatting, you don't know
00:29:01
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which spots necessarily will be for that. That's true. So if you want to be safe, you want to, you probably want to go for six. Right. That's what I'm, that's why I'm, I'm saying six is time as a championship. I don't know. Yeah, I agree. I think it's a little six to be safe. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think 18th in this league deserve to be a champion. I'm sorry. The last couple of times that's,
00:29:27
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that they've been. Yeah, it's just think about how embarrassing the exit are going to be the next year in the Champions Cup. How just God awful they will be. Yeah, they'll be it. They'll be someone's favorite drawers for sure. Right. Any of these labs. Yeah, let's go over. I did not see this one. This is my one miss. And I actually actually got this. Thank you. Wolfpack.
00:29:52
Speaker
Thank you, Wolfpack. Yeah. You know, really everything was actually looking like it was going to go well for Gloucester and then both Varney and Chapman got hurt. So. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, that'll do it. I believe, I believe Carreras had to play nine for the remainder of the match after that.
00:30:12
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When did Chapman? Yeah, Chapman came off at 64. So, granted, that's, you know, a lot of the matches already been played and I don't disagree on that one. Yeah, that's a key 14 minutes. It was. It was huge in a lot of ways. Yeah, it was.
00:30:36
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a lot of Jean Luc de Pria and a lot of Ford had a, had a pretty good day for himself. Uh, Joe Carpenter was obviously a menace as it usually is. And yeah. And then Ben Curry actually was a problem. So I did not have that one on my bingo board, but it worked out, worked out quite well. And then, yeah, I, I still think this team is obviously better with,
00:31:05
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work and not just war. But, you know, it's worse had a good season, though. Yeah, he's been he's obviously not been bad by any means. Right. He hasn't. He certainly hasn't like. I mean, they're they're second in the top for a reason. And that reason is not because Gus was killing them. No, I guess that's where I am like.
00:31:29
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A player of his caliber could easily just poop the bed over the full season and get, you know, get exposed, get found out and get run over. And he's just been a solid fucking player. Yeah, he hasn't done anything otherworldly by any means, but he hasn't. He's not been poo. I want to go back to the bath match for one more second. I'm sorry, because it fucking Ben Spencer.
00:31:55
Speaker
What the fuck does he only have four or whatever caps? Four or six, something like that, some single digit number. That guy has been so vital to that and the way he's finally getting the team around him that he deserves there and is like...
00:32:10
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killing it um yes he's been like fucking eddie like that yes we you know people talk about what what scrum halves might be available well if eddie had bothered to play fucking ben spencer a couple times yes he's probably the like would be the best and most experienced nine like he would be a potential starting scrum half at the world cup if you just let him play ever
00:32:35
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Yeah. For the last couple of years. Anyway, I just, I just forgot about that. Cause I was, I was going to mention like, war's not going to be playing international and like, wait a minute, Ben Spencer should be in. So sorry about that. I had to go back. That was all because it gets war. And it's, you know, for sale, I have to say, um,
00:33:02
Speaker
I'm still in awe of how John Ross finds spots on this team. And yes, I know he scored big fucking deal.
Player Leadership and Performance Issues
00:33:10
Speaker
He fell over the line. That's not that hard. But he's still one of these dummies that isn't necessarily that good of a player. Leadership skills are questionable in my head.
00:33:24
Speaker
and then still has the stupidity to commit a penalty and then backtrack to the referee and get backed up 10 more. Like, there you go, stupid. You just gave the other team an easy out and then an easier out. You dumb fuck. Like, come on. He does have kind of a shit at it. Like, I, yeah, like that's not a guy who's added the way he plays. I would not want him to be my captain.
00:33:51
Speaker
That's, I guess that's the way like, I can't imagine his personality is wildly different from his personality on, on, you know, as what he does. So, right.
00:34:04
Speaker
Right. Right. Don't quite get it. And I think sale could do better. It's certainly with, you know, with their captaincy. They have a few options, no doubt. Right. Yeah. And it was just a, it was a tough break from Gloucester. I thought they were going to be able to put one, put one in for the fans, but just didn't happen. And that was, uh, not, not Billy told she's most fun day last day at home, but that sucks.
00:34:30
Speaker
Yep. It was not, wasn't awesome, but Hey, they, they did put it in a pretty good shift up until that point. So lots to be proud of for that club. And Hey, you're playing that again, this number two team in the, in the comp, like, yes, no shame in that. And you almost, you know, you score 22. So you can't really expect to win in those conditions. Yep. No, no, no.
00:34:54
Speaker
And then Sunday, the match up pretty much just determined everything that's going to happen over the next few weeks here. Right? Sorry, 45, London Irish 21. Yeah. To me, this game, I was nervous in this game until, can you guess which, I don't know, I'm sure you watched the match.
00:35:21
Speaker
I actually haven't got to, but I've seen some highlights. I was nervous until Patty Jackson hit two PKs, basically back to back, and that made it like, what, like 1620 or something? To start the second half. Basically to start the second half, yeah, after about 10 minutes in the second half. And I'm like,
00:35:41
Speaker
Guys, this is a try scoring fight, and Sarri's already have two on the board. Yeah, it was 20, because they had two tries, and then the other two PKs. And it's like six points in two, it's taking you that much effort just to get to a point where you can kick a PK. Like, you might want to try for a little bit more. And no, it was, no.
00:36:07
Speaker
Um, especially cause Rob, you know, with Rob Simmons having the yellow, like, Oh, Simmons got a yellow surprise, surprise.
Owen Farrell's Impactful Match
00:36:15
Speaker
He lifted up. Um, he put a pick up. It was a mainland. I think he put a really good hit on him. Got him like almost horizontal and then just dropped him. Like, just let him go. And it was like, you got to bring him safely. You, you took him up. You got to put him down. Right. Yeah. Put him down safely and you'll be fine.
00:36:35
Speaker
But, you know, we all know his brain, his brain powers nothing great of late. So no. And. Can't tell was really showing why he's like the the. The straw that stirs the drink, essentially. Oh, have you heard this guy named Owen Farrell?
00:36:56
Speaker
Yeah, never. He's the best 10. He's the best goddamn 10 in that country. Like that's what this this match kind of proved. Like watch, you know, I watched the wins match before I watched the series. And so I was I really was like comparing the two the two tens and Farrell was just delicious in this match. He was so good.
00:37:23
Speaker
Really putting them right and putting the ball where it needed to be, um, really running that attack. And they were, I mean, fuck, they put up 45 points and it was like a total thrashing. Like they just opened them up and carved them up. And he ran that completely.
00:37:44
Speaker
Jackson Ray, that was an absolute Toby Keith performance on his part. He's not as good as he once was, but fuck was he good this once. Ben Earl ate Tom Pearson. All this buzz about Tom Pearson, oh, he's going up against so-and-so, so-and-so. Tom Pearson played lights out for the first 20, 30 minutes.
00:38:11
Speaker
Ben Earl was like, yeah, this, no, no, okay, kid, you had your say. This is mine. No, no, young man. No, you stay put. And kind of ate him alive in front of, uh, in front of Bortho. Oh, Bortho was there. Of course he was. Bortho was there. Um, Ollie Hassel Collins came off way too early. I, this, this annoyed me because again, Bortho was there and Hassel Collins didn't get much of an opportunity. He had four carries for seven meters and came out at 49 minutes.
00:38:43
Speaker
since he didn't exactly light the world on fire, either you've got other guys you could take out for Arendelle, like if you want to get him in the match, keep Hassel Collins in. He wasn't fucking up. He just wasn't like getting opportunities. Like when he was there, fine things would happen, but he just wasn't an opportunity in a place where he could really attack. And hey, it is Saracen's defense. So they were excellent on those outside balls. Paddy never really got,
00:39:13
Speaker
much traction. Like they, they had the first 10 to 20 minutes and they interviewed the, uh, the, uh, the exiles coach right afterwards and they're winning 10 nothing or something. And he's there like, yeah. So how's this going to play? It's like, this is exactly our plan. This is what we wanted the first 20 to go. And, you know, let's just hope it keeps going our way. And it's like 10 points in the first 20. Like that's, yeah, that's kind of how you want it to go, but it wasn't,
00:39:41
Speaker
Mm hmm. It wasn't like dominant. It was like Rodgerson scored off a good like, you know, forwards crash and play and.
00:39:52
Speaker
They were good, they weren't bad. But yeah, good scoring right at the end of the first half. And it was a fucking sweet play, nice end-to-end kind of movement from Sarri's off of a turnover, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure Farrell put him away, if I can remember correctly. And that was what put Sarri's in the lead, and then they just never looked back.
00:40:19
Speaker
It's like, you know, this is our game. Yeah. And Maitland scored to open it and was like, yep. Okay. Now that's, this is what's happening. Theo Dan is what we want him to be, by the way. Sweet. Like when we've been talking about him, like, I wish he was more XYZ. Um, he's been a terror in the loose. He ran really well. Now we had two sweet tries too. Oh shit. The second one, I think he kissed the ball before he scored it. Like, um,
00:40:45
Speaker
One of those like he had like one of those prop crashes where nobody touches you. Like, you know, when you're like, oh, I'm going to run right into a wall. And then it's just like, wait, where is it? Where did everybody go? But all that happened because, yeah, they just ran them off the park. Yeah. Sorry, Patty. Go the fuck home. Yeah. Take your ball and go home. Right. You're not you're not.
00:41:13
Speaker
You know, I've heard, you know, people say, well, he's still a really good, no, he's not. He got totally out. Like this is why, you know, even if you were not what you are off the pitch, you'd still wouldn't be an international 10. Cause you're ultimately not good enough. When, when you go in this kind of match, you got to show the fuck up and he really didn't. Barsell anyway. So fine. Um, you know, not that I'm complaining. I'm just going to fucking twist the knife.
00:41:42
Speaker
Yep. Same, same. Cool. All right. Well, that means. From top four is all but determined. I mean, the top four are set. It's just we don't know what order because Lester. No, I think Lester three. Yeah, Lester three. And they're going to play this weekend. So unless they.
00:42:02
Speaker
Lose it. Yeah. Plus they're on plus 73. So they would need to lose by a lot. But I think the draw gives them. I don't know. I wasn't sure if that's like if there's a. No, both of the same wins. I don't know how they I don't know how to write the. Let's see. They're there. They're in three right now. So. OK, so then points differential. Yeah. So they'd have to lose by like 80.
00:42:29
Speaker
They have to lose by quite a bit here. So probably not happening as areas have taught spot locked in sale or guaranteed a home playoff. So really, I mean, next round, these, these four teams are just, I, I of these four teams, three of them. Cause obviously saints aren't, aren't going to be on a buy. Yeah. You might see some rotation really. So then everybody else will just be playing for the best spot they can. Right.
00:42:59
Speaker
Yeah. So that's weird. The, um, the prem website has saris versus saints on, um, for the semi-final. And then it has sharks versus, uh, to be determined. Yeah. Great job guys. Fucking bang up job. Yeah. Anyway, let's jump over to the other hemisphere.
Chiefs' Victory Against Drua
00:43:28
Speaker
Chiefs and Fuji and Drua. And... How was this for you? This went down smooth. Very little change. Yeah. I mean, it was a good match. Seriously, no disrespect to the Dru. I mean, shit. Chiefs put up three tries.
00:43:56
Speaker
was that 19 points in the last like 10 minutes or something like that. Like this was not, this was not in like, it wasn't in hand by any stretch late. Like it was at one point it was think it was like a seven point match and I'm, I was a little like, guys, you want to, or maybe it was a little bit more than that. Maybe it was like a 10 point. It was still like,
00:44:23
Speaker
I could see this going badly, but, you know, I still I was pretty confident the whole time anyway, because. Like this is this isn't the Druids first, you know, top. Line up anyway, I don't think they're they're missing some guys. No, I was definitely was missing in there. And then just the fucking was that all the cards? No, there were only a couple. I can't remember. I'll get to the other one that had like cards fucking galore later.
00:44:54
Speaker
Yeah, I, I wasn't that nervous. I mean, Stevenson going over earlier, they settles it will rat him going over really. Yeah. They were just scoring points early and fair enough. I think if, you know, as long as they can keep scoring, they would eventually stop through, even if it was close. So I felt pretty confident the whole time. Yeah. No reason not to at this point. Right.
00:45:16
Speaker
That's chiefs are fucking good. Yep. So yeah, they kind of good. It's scary. Like I that's the other thing, though. And, you know, again, once again, watching the difference between southern hemisphere rugby and northern hemisphere rugby. How many like just box kicks just to box kick?
00:45:35
Speaker
did you see in any of these matches, really? I don't know. I didn't get to watch any of them, so. Oh, OK. There wasn't much. So if they're kicking, they're going off the 10 or even like the second receiver and they're trying to change field position or they're running and they run really well. Like Chiefs and the Champions Cup would do extremely well. And so with a bunch of these other teams, I'm just I guess I'm just annoyed that it's like
00:46:04
Speaker
Well, again, I feel like English would be stuck in the past. A little bit, yeah. Like, I'm just watching this. Like, this is so impressive, and there's no reason why, you know, like an Exeter can't play like this, like this style. There's no reason, except they just don't want it. And it was boring this match, by the way. Boring. Like, buckets of rain. One of those bar, the balls of bar of soap. And the Chalken Chiefs put up 50. And it, like, it looked like it was
00:46:33
Speaker
blue skies, the way the rugby was being played by both teams. It really wasn't there. Not too many knock-ons that I remember. It wasn't like a huge, but they also weren't like playing overly physical. They weren't just running into contact, which is when the ball usually shoots out. They're running to space and, you know, keeping the ball alive, just moving it and making like skillful passes that make it easy to catch. Like, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm just, this was such a display of a good, good rugby again, by both teams, but putting up 50 was,
00:47:03
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, thank you. Rebels and Crusaders. Rebels had the lead at half on this one. I didn't get to see this one. Yeah. This is one. Yes.
00:47:18
Speaker
Anytime you have a lead on the Crusaders, like don't assume anything's going well. Just right. Lock that shit up. Yeah. Assume that you need to up at just another level or maybe two, because those guys, no matter who is no matter the names on the team sheet, the badge is still the same. Don't fuck around with that team, man. They will burn out and they did. They did. I mean, I'm looking at let me see, 55 minutes.
00:47:48
Speaker
Um, there's a 70 minute 62 for three and 80 minutes of four tries in the last 25 minutes. Um, yeah, rebels come, come the fuck on front.
00:48:02
Speaker
Yeah, you got it. You got to bring 80 against a team like the Crusaders. This is where you got to keep your discipline. Don't get a card at 61 minutes. Yeah, this is not the time of getting cards. So, yeah, just not. Yeah. That's Crusaders there.
00:48:29
Speaker
I also did not get a chance to watch blues versus war toss because I figured something around 55 21 was how this would go. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, I've had it on not expecting this to be competitive. Yeah. Tossed up in it at all. I've had on this while we were doing this. Yeah, it's yeah. They got one and really like that was it. Hmm.
00:48:57
Speaker
Yeah, they got one with the conversion and I, I can't say I'm shocked. Like it was, this was a full noise blues team who have a point to prove. And there's some, there's some bodies missing on the other side as well for, um, for the war times as well. So that that's not helpful in any way, shape or form. Did you see that, uh, two of us a shock is going to go back to a league after this year?
00:49:24
Speaker
Really? Yeah. He's not sticking around. He's like, I'm not making the World Cup. I'm not. I don't think he's enjoying himself. So. Well, you're well, but yeah, later. But I'm not sure if he's if he's just done with the blues, too. But yeah, no idea about that. Sure. The door is open if you need if he wants to. Yeah.
00:49:48
Speaker
No, I know he's been hurt, too. So I'm not sure if he's returning to them or if he's just going to be like, I'm awesome. Right. It's not been great. Yeah. For some highlanders force. Get one back against the hounders who beat them earlier in the year over at Forsyth Park. This this was the match with all the cards. Yeah. One, two, three. Oh, geez. Hmm. I wonder how there's loss. They had three fucking cards.
00:50:18
Speaker
Yes, they did. And two literally back to back. At any point in time, if you start playing with 13 players on the field, you are asking for it. Right. At least one of them was a penalty try. If I recall correctly, it might have been the last card they got.
00:50:38
Speaker
Fucking hell. Yeah. But like, everybody was getting them. So like, even Hamish Stewart and Tom Horton on the other side, they were getting cards. Like, it was just really bad. Who was the referee in this one? I can tell you in two seconds.
00:50:58
Speaker
Nick Berry. Yeah. Um, like I figured he might've had to stretch his shoulder out after this one because he was, he was mad at everybody towards the end. Like stop. Like, yeah. So you've been warning and like each captain is like, come on, can we get a card? And one of them, uh, he was like, I just gave them a card. Shut up. Um,
00:51:25
Speaker
And it was like, it wasn't until I think, I think that was the, the, the two back to backers. Cause I think the one like they did something illegal again and then they did something illegal again. And he's like, no, okay. Fuck it. No, you're yeah. I'm done. Yeah. Or maybe it was the first, was it? No, that wasn't that. That was.
00:51:51
Speaker
Oh, no, that was it. That was the penalty try. It was Michaeli. Yeah. Yeah. And with at that point, you know, you have you've gotten back to 15. Well, you know, whatever you've surrendered at that point by getting the group and part of Parkinson back on. And then shortly after that, you decide, let's go back down to 14. Yeah. Well, I'll give you a great idea. Great idea.
00:52:21
Speaker
I'm not exhausted at all. Having played down to 13 for almost 10 whole minutes. And so here's the thing though.
00:52:34
Speaker
they were pressured into these cards. It wasn't just that they were poor defensively or just had poor discipline. It was that the force were really putting pressure on them and really forcing them to basically like, yeah, take a card or let in a try. And Highlanders were willing to try to front up and hold them out and ended up going to the bin for it.
Western Force's Physical Play
00:53:02
Speaker
.T. was running. Pulu was actually showing really well before he had to come out. Of course, I mean, there's obviously good reasons why there were so many cards, too. It was a fucking physical game. Guys were dropping left and right. Like, Callan heard himself two minutes in. Yeah, then Pulu came out in 14 minutes. It was fucking physical. And Callan was scary because he
00:53:25
Speaker
had his head on the wrong side and like went head to hip. Oh, the guy was like crashing right out. Yeah, it was not good. Like, yeah. Listen, kids, that's not what you do. Yeah. No, not what you do. I remember Pula, I think it was the high shot that I don't think that was carded or it was something where he like he he got hit in a way I didn't really quite like.
00:53:48
Speaker
Um, and there was, I don't think there was any sanction for it. If I remember correctly, um, may still be coming. We just don't know. But like Isaac finds Leo, uh, they also was, was ridiculous. He was moving like exactly like what we had expected him to be doing. Um,
00:54:06
Speaker
Hagerty scored a try early. Um, there's sweet little slip through the middle, like a quality 10, you know, 15 is 10 kind of try. Like, um, yeah, I'm going to attack rather than just be first receiver. Um, not to Ellie found like he looks to be back. And if Hagerty plays like this, I didn't realize, you know, we're talking about the Highlanders here, but if Hagerty is playing like this and Mata Ellie becomes that much more of a threat.
00:54:35
Speaker
because damn, and Sam Spink was, he had some good and some kind of boneheaded plays, but he's fun to watch. I'm glad to see he's found a home. Just like his old wasps teammate, Kiberigi, who has been excellent while healthy. Did you see his play last week that they were very kicked it to himself in the try?
00:55:00
Speaker
No, man, you'd see that one in the angle. Oh, he had a sweet fucking try last week. I think then he got hurt. So I think that's why he wasn't playing this week. But he's shown really well. So lots of like the force are kind of kind of like, you know, bath, like they're not good, but they're trying. And they'll get, you know, I mean, right now they're in the they're they're qualified for the playoffs. So that's ridiculous.
00:55:30
Speaker
Yeah. And they could, you know, they're only three and five, too. They're not that far under 500 for what, you know, kind of kind of expect from them of late. So I'm happy to like they're trending in the right directions. I guess where I'm going. Yeah. Well, it's like for the last few spots. Right. Oh, yeah. The true are right fucking there, too. The ties are technically there, but.
00:55:53
Speaker
Come on. They didn't look good. Speaking of the ties, just watching this match. Keep your eyes on the injury report for Dylan Page. He crashed into the advertising boards and was holding his arm afterwards. So just keep your eyes peeled on that one.
New England Free Jacks' Winning Streak
00:56:09
Speaker
No, I need him. I need him for points. So is everybody else.
00:56:15
Speaker
You and I did not get to Fort Quincy this weekend. Obviously, I was away and you were quite busy. I was coaching. But Free Jack's Roll On just the same. Sounds like Ken Roddy had himself a day. Excellent. All kind of scored. LaRouma Lawn scored. Yeah. Oh, great to have LaRouma. LaRouma Lawn back. I tried to score. So now with him and Vanderbank and Spencer Jones can play there. Ben LeSage. Yeah.
00:56:45
Speaker
And we're getting Bowdoin back. Oh, my God. I thought that was fucking satire. I was like, no way. Bullshit. Right. I was like, come on, guys. And then then he started sharing it. And it's like, oh, shit. And then it's like somebody's like, yeah, because his country, like his Japan. League is up at the end of this month. Right. So it's there was only one new deal.
00:57:11
Speaker
Right. So he can play. Wow. Only one year. I mean, and I understand he might not be an amazing player, but for that league, he's probably pretty good. He is. And maybe, maybe that's kind of how he wanted to do it so that he could do this. And then he'll sign again. Like maybe there's like an intent to sign or something like that. Oh, yeah. I don't know. That's a possibility as well.
00:57:31
Speaker
Right. Or he or he just wanted to go to Japan for one year and then try to go back. Maybe he wants to try to go back to New Zealand next year, if you can. Who knows? I'm sure. I'm sure he'll go back to if he doesn't play in Japan. I'm sure he'll go back to at least back to MPC. Right. So stills are out, actually, I think.
00:57:50
Speaker
Okay. Which I believe is his team. Right. So that was that. Anyway, just be scared. I remember being upset when New York added some
00:58:05
Speaker
you know, ridiculous talent at the end of last season. Well, it's like the free jacks are kind of doing that. But at the same time, they're bringing the guy back who they've had. So it's not the same. Yeah. It's not a bunch of former all blacks either. Right. You don't compare. That is not the same. Exactly. And but it's like they're already rushing the East. So they want something to get them over the top for the rest of the league. Right. And I'd be scared for the rest of the league because, you know, that's a big get to have Patras and and walk up playing at 15.
00:58:35
Speaker
Not the McDonald's. His true position. Right. Which is huge. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Stealers finished this past weekend. So I'm sure he'll get self-arranged and all that good shit. Right. And then he'll get on a plane. Yeah. I'll probably give him a week to adapt or so. So we probably won't see him this weekend, but I bet you'll see him. Bring Stacy whenever you want. Yeah.
00:59:03
Speaker
Yeah, that was fun to gush over her. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. I would not mind a second shot. No way. We love you. You're awesome. You're awesome. Especially now that she's still woke up. When are you shitting me? Right. Okay. Anyway. Anyway, to the rest of it. Oh, Glory Beat Utah, which is kind of a weird result. Don't know how that happened.
00:59:28
Speaker
Legion beat Dallas. Dallas are starting to get people problems. It sounds like so. But Legion got that one done down in Arlington. Uh, Nola beat Hounds. Hounds are struggling. Tough, tough stuff. Houston beat New York. So Houston might be a real thing. Although something else happened in that match. That's probably more, no word in that score line. Yeah. A little, nothing like a little fucking coach fight. Yeah.
01:00:00
Speaker
It's one of those where nobody's right and everyone's wrong. Yeah, I'm not in the business of any publicity, a good publicity. Sorry. Right. This is not how I stern. And yeah, I saw this being shared on the Twitters by way too many of my
01:00:14
Speaker
follows that are not rugby follows. Yeah, like this is not good. Right. Yeah. It's like, that's not good. Like, yeah, unacceptable on all accounts doesn't matter who
01:00:29
Speaker
Awful. I don't know why you would think that would be acceptable. This is one of those things where it's like, you're both fired. Right. Exactly. First off, you're the fucking SNC coach. What are you doing? I'll take your job. Right. Being in the other team's house, that has nothing to do with you. You don't know. Nope. You don't belong there. Nope. So yeah, the same guy's coach was right to tell him to fuck off.
01:00:58
Speaker
Do it from the side, like just whatever. You don't have to escalate it. You don't have to be like a big Billy badass. Be like, you get the hell out of it. No, just be like, do the chirp him off from the, from the touch line.
01:01:08
Speaker
It's chirping. You don't have to go out and make it that much worse and then swing at it like you're slapping. Actually, the slap was hilarious. I have no problem with the slap because that guy deserved to be slapped. I'm OK with that. Slap is embarrassing in a lot of ways. Exactly. The mask has got slaps, bitch. Like, yeah. And also, you know, no, no disrespect to you, but there are SNC coaches. There are many that just need to be slapped. Yeah. No, I I concur. I concur with that. Trust me. Yeah. You're not going to get an argument out of me with that one.
01:01:38
Speaker
Oh, there's some real helmets out there. Right. Like, no, but either way, the whole fight was stupid. Anyway, let's move on. But anyway, all right. Yeah, they both need to be get the fuck out. Yeah. Apparently that that coach has a history of it back in South Africa. Yeah. So I've heard it's good confrontation and it's like. OK, bye. Goodbye.
01:02:03
Speaker
Okay. Okay. Now I know I don't like saber cats anyway, cause that's the way your dude is. No. Yeah. Good. Okay. Anyway, so we are back. We're back in this. We're back in the saddle. Oh, we're in Seattle beat Toronto. Yeah. That's right. Well, they've been on a tear. So which right. That's what's going to happen. I'm not looking forward to when they have to play them in a couple of weeks. No, not there. Nope. Yeah. Out there. Yeah. That's the worst part. It's not there.
01:02:33
Speaker
Anyway. Okay. So yeah, we are back from the saddle, or at least I am shaking it off. We will be heading over to fancy corner. We're going to talk about all the things that happened last weekend with FRDs and such. And then we're going to obviously look forward to a big weekend super for everybody that's trying to close down a playoff spot in their, in their leagues. If you're not heading over there.
01:02:59
Speaker
We appreciate you. Not a problem. Yeah, not a problem. If you're not heading over there, we will appreciate you. We appreciate you listening to us and hanging out with us. But otherwise, we'll catch you all next week. Enjoy the rugby. Enjoy the semi-finals of Jamie and Steph, and we'll talk to you all next week. Have a good one. Later. Cheers.