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Craig is joined by Ray Power, best selling author, coach, manager of many academies in Europe, Africa and Asia. He has coached 100+ players who have gone on to play international football (soccer). He also runs successful webinars so all can enjoy and benefit from his knowledge.

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Introduction to the Podcast and Guest

00:00:17
sessionshare
Hello and welcome to our first episode of Session Share, The Coaches Podcast. My name is Craig Burtzel and I'm delighted to have an amazing first guest. A guy I've followed for many years on Twitter, not in public, so don't get scared. I have referred to one of his books called Making the Ball Roll as a Coach's Bible. He's a bestselling author on coaching material. He has managed academies in the UK, Ireland, Africa, and Asia. Coached 100 plus youth players who have gone on to play internationally. He's a coach developer who runs his own successful coach education webinars.

Ray Power's Coaching Journey

00:00:52
sessionshare
So my first question for you, Ray, is, is there anything you haven't done?
00:00:56
Ray
um I was kind of smiling as you reel those things off there because I think sometimes you get right in the middle of it all and you kind of forget um what's not in the in the epicenter of what you're doing right now. So um yeah, if you know what, as a coach and maybe as a career coach, you always feel like you're not kind of where you need to be or want to be sometimes. So it's yeah, it's quite nice. Some of the things you said there are really quite nice, mate. Thank you.
00:01:22
sessionshare
Oh, you're welcome. As I say, very it's a pleasure to have you on. um <unk> It's funny when you look at like all the things that you've done, I imagine it's just simply a case of the right time, right place, and actually trying to just find what that thing is that you want to help develop for people. Is that correct?
00:01:42
Ray
yeah Yeah, I remember my and the cohort that I did my UEFA A license with. um we've had a We've had a few really come out of it. dansius or Aaron Danx is over at Bayern Munich now and and ah Dan Machichu was on at Louis Lancaster, he's managing internationally. But I vividly remember there was three of us, kind of newish in the marketplace as ah an A license coach trying to find the the next job. um I ended up going to Africa, ah kind of ah after ah just like a solitary Twitter message, kind of changed my life in a sense.

Transition from Teaching to Coaching

00:02:24
Ray
um One of us went into full-time coach education ah with the National Federation. And the third one went into and the professional game and with with pro players.
00:02:37
Ray
So so there was it was almost like any of those three things could have happened to any of the three of us, if that makes sense. So it was just timing meets opportunity meets whatever someone you know.
00:02:45
sessionshare
Mmhmm, yeah.
00:02:52
Ray
and So that that that job in Africa just came from um Someone I know had been approached about ah a job. They were looking for a coach and coach education. Did I fancy it? It was in Tanzania. I don't know, where's where's Tanzania? And then it kind of, it snowballs in a sense. But like I said, if that message had gone somewhere else or I hadn't quite replied properly or whatever, you you could have ended up in ah and a different path. So it is very much about timing.

Coaching Philosophy and Player Development

00:03:21
Ray
and The
00:03:24
Ray
the the The good thing is, I guess, is that it gives you a real robustness about who you are, what you do, what you want to do, what what you don't want to do sometimes as well. um Sometimes you feel when those moments come along, you think, oh, I best take it or else it it won't come around again. Or sometimes you think, well, ah that's you know a bad play or whatever. so um Yeah, the the whole lot's been, when you look back on it, it feels like a bit of a whirlwind to be fair. um But that's that's coaching in all honesty as as a career for sure.
00:03:57
sessionshare
hundred percent And you said there like your path basically how you got there and everything like that So I'm sure the listeners would love to hear about your background. How'd you get involved in football?
00:04:07
Ray
yeah It's literally all I've truly ever been interested in. to be to be quite frank, like as as a passion it's just never it's never ebbed, it never got, okay maybe as a teen it got knocked out by by bits and pieces but but not not far, um like obsessed with playing football when I was a little kid, like couldn't wake and everything, I used to i used to My auntie used to live in ah in the middle of a house in the state, and I used to stay there quite a lot. um And they used to drive them the neighbors crazy because I'd be out at the crack of dawn kicking the ball against all the walls in the little square and

Challenges in Youth Coaching

00:04:48
Ray
all that sort of stuff. it It was like I wasn't happy unless I was watching or playing. And I think most of us could probably relate to that. But it never went away. you know it It just never went away.
00:05:00
Ray
um always always playing, and always doing something. And when it came, I never really, I wanted to be a professional footballer growing up, but I never really kind of sat down and went, right, this is my path, I'm going on, I'm going to do it.
00:05:16
Ray
It was always kind of something I was doing.
00:05:17
sessionshare
Okay.
00:05:19
Ray
just then it was okay at times and peaked in my in my mid teens or whatever. um And then when when real world stuff started happening, so go into going to uni, I started to be a teacher, for example, I went into the teaching workforce very, very briefly and kind of went What am I doing? like i can't I just can't wait for Friday. I just can't wait for the half term. I can't wait for the summer holidays. I can't. What is it that's going to get me out of bed? And there was literally only one thing that was going to get me out of bed. And that was to go down the the coaching route. um Yeah, so early 20s, started doing my badges, moved to England. Probably like most coaches, you work in community football.
00:06:07
Ray
You take a part-time job in academy, you get a slightly better part-time job in the academy, and then you kind of move through college

Influence of Teaching on Coaching

00:06:15
Ray
football. And then I went full-time 2011, I'm thinking, like one full-time proper job in football.
00:06:26
Ray
um And then it's always been about, well, you know, is is that next step going to come along? Is that next opportunity going to arise? and um Yeah. And then you you kind of lose control of of how linear you expect it to be. Yeah. So I've ended up kind of traveling the world in a sense, without never really knowing where I'm going to end up to be fair.
00:06:53
sessionshare
That's half of the fun, right? Going where where you want to go and everything like that. And it's funny you mentioned about like the teaching there side of it because now that makes a lot of sense reading your books on like how you talk about coach education and everything like that. I see the teaching in there. Do you think that um that small bit of teaching in your career has really helped you have a successful career in coaching?
00:07:19
Ray
without a doubt um so everything from like there's so many connections I think it's quite clear but sometimes it is necessary to say it out loud I remember being a student teacher going into my first classroom the kids must have been 12 or something like that and turning around like I did whatever you knew teachers should do you introduce yourself you look really stern and then you write your name on the board um and I remember turning around to write my name on the board and literally to this day remember going oh my god what is happening like I'm 21 I'm twenty one um now
00:07:59
Ray
sir or whatever in the classroom. um But like most coaches will tell you, the first time I stood in front of a group, I didn't know what to do it or say or so nervous or this that or the other. So there's there's so many links across to it. um And ultimately, like when when we when we go into the I'm teaching football to a bunch of learners,
00:08:24
Ray
it's like the same things are present. and Fortunately football gives us most of the time gives us a much more motivated environment and than most classrooms. um So yeah, there's loads of transferable stuff. ah As you said through through my books, I think it's quite quite evident.
00:08:24
sessionshare
Thank you.

Managing Emotions and Expectations in Youth Sports

00:08:44
Ray
And I think football is now accepting. I did a webinar last night with sir Dr. Perry Walters, who talks about neuroscience and football and coaching, you know what I mean? about And it's literally about how the brain works and how kids learn. And it's just, you it's on you can't separate it.
00:09:05
sessionshare
There's a lot more that goes into it now rather than just like this is how you kick a ball, this is where you move in these formations and everything like that. um It certainly has ah evolved since we started coaching, that's for sure.
00:09:17
Ray
Yeah.
00:09:20
sessionshare
Speaking of like the evolution of your coaching in particular, what would you say your coaching philosophy was?
00:09:28
Ray
Um, I know you're kind of encouraged to to kind of get this answer on a post-it note, kind of really clean when when someone asks you, when you do all your badges, it's kind of like task one.
00:09:41
Ray
so for that and I suppose it often depends what we're talking about.
00:09:42
sessionshare
Right.
00:09:45
Ray
like If it's if um player development, for example, and it and it comes down to it playing style and things like that, I'm I'm quite um ah quite straight up in what I believe.
00:10:01
Ray
I think kids should play with the ball and they should play with the ball as much as possible. I have this idea that, you know, and i'm I'm talking red, I call it red corner, technical tactical corner only now about like improving players play football.
00:10:15
Ray
um It's about like the ball being the most prized thing going and and the game being the center point of everything. I don't believe in and running.
00:10:27
Ray
but like isolated running i don't believe in in have drills i don't believe in lining kids up to take a pass or have a shot or do whatever like that it's it is firmly um i'm doing it I'm doing a presentation called Extreme Coaching and next weekend. And it's about that idea, like, if you believe in something, then you you you must, you must, must back it up. ah So the example I would use, for example, would be Postick Cogaloo. You remember he went down to, Tottenham went down to nine players against Chelsea?
00:11:03
Ray
and
00:11:03
sessionshare
yes
00:11:03
sessionshare
remember itt wowy but
00:11:04
Ray
and and And everyone went, what's going on here? This guy doesn't know what he's doing and all that sort of stuff. that he lost the game, but the the extreme part in his coaching and the bit he needed to double down on was, you know, we're we're, if I'm going to call us a pressing team, if we're going to be that team who has a goal and does that, we're going to do it regardless.
00:11:25
Ray
um So I love that kind of that extremeness in coaches who believe in a way in what they're doing.
00:11:29
sessionshare
Yes remember it while we were.
00:11:33
Ray
um and so and And I'm very similar to and it gets me into some serious conversations with with people when that pass from the goalkeeper is just a bit too you know whatever. um I want them to play it and and and do that regardless. um you know And if if we move away then from the red corner, the you know away from the the balls, bibs, cones sort of stuff, if there's one thing I've learned from, I don't know how long it's been now,
00:12:02
Ray
four years or whatever of of speaking to experts most weeks is like relationships to your golden ticket that's like it keeps it's amazing Craig how often that word it comes up and I'm not talking about you know the guy coaching the five-year-olds and giving them high fives and making them feel safe in time shoelaces I'm talking paramertos accurateki like, that was Paramarktazaka's thing.
00:12:30
Ray
Academy manager at Arsenal, World Cup winner, he was like, alright, it's everything, it's his relationships. um And you know, you kind of go, well, I feel like I know that, but, you know, have have I really gone down that rabbit hole?
00:12:43
Ray
So, um so yeah, and im look,
00:12:46
sessionshare
It's good to be reminded.

Continuous Learning and Development in Coaching

00:12:48
Ray
Yeah yeah yeah and then around myself it's just like just being a little bit better as much as you can and I've always had a bit of a thirst for knowledge and then the next bit and yeah it's it's just kind of snowball.
00:13:08
sessionshare
I absolutely love that, I really do. We're going to be back shortly after a brief message from our Zencaster sponsor.
00:13:57
sessionshare
Welcome back and we're going to delve a little deeper on youth sports. We have Ray Power here and Ray, what do you feel is the biggest problem with youth sports at the moment?
00:14:10
Ray
uh and i suppose this answer i don't want it to make it seem like it's full of problems ah but i don't i have this kind of bit bit of a mental block when it comes to what's what's the one thing or what are the three things or list of the list of five i get asked to suffer that a lot what are the five things that kids should do to be whatever and you're like well like what if there's six what if there's four or what if there's an endless amount or or whatever so Look, I work in coaches from from a lot of of different environments. I would think if I was to ask them what they think the biggest problem in sports is, they would say ah the majority of youth coaches would probably talk about parents.
00:14:58
Ray
um and the the outside influence of and of parents, which is, I know I'm a parent myself and I see both sides of it and all that sort of stuff, but I think that's what what most coaches would say. um a kind of Maybe there's a way of tying all these kinds of things together. I believe that if we could have good coaches who are trying to better themselves with good football sport parents who are trying to better themselves and their understanding of of what's going on, um then you automatically get players who get better at what they're doing or you would like to think the environment as much as possible helps them get better at what they're doing. um And it almost, it does, it does pay, it genuinely pains me actually when, um you know, my previous job
00:15:55
Ray
Monday morning was probably always um dealing with something from the weekend, you know, something that had gone on. So my previous job at Boston was was kind of multifaceted. And and certainly the Monday morning in part was what parents stepped out of line, what coach was an idiot and got himself sent off or you know was swearing at the kids or was, you know,
00:16:24
Ray
what ref didn't show up and and the ref made a balls of everything and there's a complaint going on it and all that sort of stuff. And you look at this sort of thing and you're like, to to you, to the coach losing their head on ah on a Saturday at a foundation phase game or a parent losing their head in a moment.
00:16:44
Ray
you think it's the most special moment of the week, and it's the most dramatic thing to happen. It's not. You're just piling stuff on top of stuff. And they use the word stuff instead of ah another S letter word.
00:16:56
Ray
um if i't I don't know if I'm allowed to swear, but ah but I won't. I'll side swipe that one. um No, but you you understand where I'm coming from. It's it's the the ah the misplaced emotion in the in and around the game.
00:17:13
Ray
Which I think just stresses everyone out and I don't like I'd really struggle me my wife if had conversations about this with with two boys with two older girls who played a bit of sport but it wasn't for them with two younger boys that are kind of looking at it you know they're still in the little soccer

Handling Conflicts and Communication with Parents

00:17:30
Ray
school environment so it's pretty it's pretty sterile or whatever but you know and not too long it's it's it's all of a sudden catapulted into quite stressful environments and it's yeah it kind of embarrasses me as a ambassador for the game if that makes sense um yeah so if everyone could chill out that would be that'd be really helpful in new sport
00:17:55
sessionshare
I agree. um I've got to the habit now of when I coach, let's say for example I have a a good game at the weekend and I see something I've developed with the players or we got a good result or something along those. I try my best now to turn the phone off as soon as I get home um and the main reason for that is because I've done all week to get to this point where I've developed the players, I've developed the team and I've got them there.
00:18:20
sessionshare
And then, um I don't know if it's something inside me, for example, but I can have 100 things go positively for me. I get that one negative email and it spoils the rest of my weekend.
00:18:32
Ray
Yeah, yeah.
00:18:32
sessionshare
So I 100% agree with you.
00:18:34
sessionshare
I will try and ignore that for at least till Monday morning.
00:18:38
Ray
Yeah, and you're right too. And we we had a rule, to be fair, we had a rule where parents couldn't um approach coaches um the day of, unless it was something serious, right? Or or it was something helpful or whatever, but not the, I'm waiting in the car park to talk to him about my kid playing left back or,
00:18:57
Ray
and He got twenty five minutes instead of thirty minutes or whatever it was it was like if you can leave until monday if it's still a problem on monday reach out in the right way and it was just to take the the emotion out of it because i'm pretty sure before ah mobile phones.
00:19:13
Ray
it was really really helpful because by the time Monday comes around it's probably not as important as you thought it was right at that moment and you can have ah a decent conversation but yeah and have a decent conversation with people um and you know I've
00:19:21
sessionshare
The combat, yeah
00:19:31
Ray
I've not had to work in, you know, when you're working with, and we don't use the word at least young players, but when we're like selected young players, academy players or whatever you want to call them, and especially abroad, actually, especially in, you know, in and some developing countries arrive where I've worked, you get a very kind of light touch from parents. they They want to make sure the kids are all right. And then over to you, coach, like you you know, you know best.
00:19:59
Ray
Um, so I've been fortunate that I've, I've had. Hadn't have to duck and dive like you would like him consider turning my phone off after a game. I think that's quite shameful to be fair and and not of you, but of of the the cohort that you're with.
00:20:12
Ray
And, you know, Craig's taken my kid to play football at the weekend without Craig might be in trouble here.
00:20:14
sessionshare
Right.
00:20:21
Ray
Um, so I'm going to unload because of whatever I just think is really, I don't think it happens at swim meets. or athletics club.
00:20:30
Ray
you know yeah so that's I suppose if if there is the biggest problem, it's probably that environment that seems to be accepted and in in youth football.
00:20:30
sessionshare
Yeah.
00:20:30
sessionshare
Migrant out.
00:20:43
Ray
It's just what happens in football and I think it's wrong.
00:20:47
sessionshare
and it's a tough one as well because there's no immediate solution for that because at the end of the day I'm a coach I can't tell anyone I can't tell you I can't tell anyone else how to parent their children it's just not not right I can only do what I can do on the two to three times a week I have their child so it's like There's there's ah obviously a joke I'm sure you've heard of it many, many times that the best coach team in youth sports to coach would be an orphanage because we wouldn't have to deal with the parents.
00:21:16
Ray
Not at that.
00:21:16
sessionshare
you know in like yeah But it's one of those things that I just try and embrace it and just make sure that I'm open and honest with the parents and they know where I'm coming from, even if they don't agree.
00:21:17
Ray
Not at that, my goodness.
00:21:29
sessionshare
um Speaking of like like that communication and everything like that, if a coach comes to you and a new young coach, what sort of advice would you give them if they yeah if they asked for it?
00:21:42
Ray
Well, look if we we're going to hook that on directly to what we were just talking about, like I think if it was a new culture, if you've been doing it 30 years, the the very best thing you could do every season is sit every parent down in a room for 20 minutes, 30 minutes, and just say, this is me, this is what I do, this is what I plan to do.
00:22:04
Ray
like I will assume that everyone will be on board with us as we go through. you know And whether it's about game time or playing out from the back or all those kind of, that there's five or six things ah that tend to be complained about most. um And you know if if someone says to you, look, I'm going to rotate positions.
00:22:28
Ray
and and I'm going to do it every six weeks, we're going to have a little rotate so your kid will play up front or they'll play at the back of the play, whatever whatever way you do it, then it's open, it's out there, it's been set like asked and answered. um And I always think that's a really, I'd rather give a reminder in ah in a heated moment that you'll remember we spoke about that at the start, this is it in action. I've told you I'm going to be honest, so I'm going to do what I told you I'm going to do.
00:22:56
Ray
and but it also holds you to account for what it is you want to do as well so you know you don't want a parent coming to you saying that well actually you said we' we're gonna play equal playing time but because my kids the worst in the group he's only getting 10 minutes and and he's been left out more squads than than Johnny who gets most of the game um Or, you know, he's, I don't know, he's a big, big bustle and centre back and he's only playing centre back because and you don't want to lose him in that position and, you you know, you won't play him off front. And it kind of holds everyone to account. I think that's the very best thing. ah Certainly at a grassroots level, you you can do as a coach. And you soon figure out what's really important to you.
00:23:41
Ray
It doesn't need to be, I always say to coaches do it like 20 minutes before your game or something like that. So your games going to kick off at 10 o'clock, do it at 20 to 10.
00:23:49
sessionshare
and
00:23:52
Ray
So that by five to 10, you can say, well, I'm done, I'm going and the game is on. You kind of have a deadline so you don't get caught in kind of. going on and on and on about something. That's my biggest advice if if we hook it on to the conversation we were just having and about that environment and stuff. um if it's If it's a pure how do I get better as a coach kind of stuff?
00:24:19
Ray
um I think people normally recommend either what they've done or what they feel like they should have done and when they were when they were doing it. um and And someone said to me when when I was doing it, just spend time on the grass. like I was so keen to get on. I was probably, like I'm looking back. I don't regret starting my A license when I did, but I went from B to A in a flash.
00:24:43
Ray
um I knew at the time there was two parts you did you did a part one and then you went back it was minimum a year to do part two so it was kind of like but if I get part one done I can you know what I mean I'm i'm sort of poised or whatever um but spending time on the grass like spending time with players reading a book and getting that little light bulb in your head about whatever that's tactic or that's phrase or that psychology thing or what whatever it happens to be yeah and just test driving it um because that trying and error is massive.

Passion and Memorable Sports Moments

00:25:19
sessionshare
100%, it's got to be a case of just trying to find different ways to educate yourself all over, whether it's spending the extra hour to watch the coach after you, whether it's picking up a book, listening to a podcast, all these different things. is We're all just trying to find that extra 10% to improve, aren't we?
00:25:37
Ray
There was um when I was, well what year would it have been? 2009, 2010 or something like that. and Might be slightly wrong but not that long ago and I remember my yeah The boss of the club where I was pulled out this big session plan book, like printed off the thing. He's like, Oh, this was from X Academy, like a high level Academy. And it was like gold. It was, Oh my God. This is like straight from the horse's mouth kind of thing.
00:26:08
Ray
um And that document I have on PDF with a thousand more about, you know, that the Scout report from Andrea Villas Boas under Marino and, you know, this, this book and that book and this resource and that resource, like you don't have to go far to get yourself a degree probably in coaching football kind of informally you know and there's a course for everything there's a podcast for everything there's a webinar for everything so i yeah I do believe we're we're really really spoiled saturated maybe at times and there's there's ways of dealing with that as well um but yeah I think it's there's some real opportunity out there just just to get better just to move the needle every
00:26:55
Ray
and you know every time you're capable of.
00:26:59
sessionshare
And as you said earlier as well, when you have a passion for something, it doesn't feel like work then does it? It's just you enjoy every opportunity you get to learn.
00:27:07
Ray
Yeah totally and and we talked about podcasts but Stephen Bartlett was speaking about that on a podcast he had with someone recently about just that. um that he loves what he does and he can't sit still, he can't not do what he does, but it doesn't hurt him. It's hard work isn't hard for him because because he's entrenched in it. So yeah, don't get me wrong, there are good days and bad days just like everything else as we know, but definitely a net gain for myself anyway, when it comes to football and coaching.
00:27:47
sessionshare
Love it. ah We'll be back for a brief short message.
00:28:06
sessionshare
Welcome back. We're going to round off the episode. We're talking to Ray and just a little bit of fun here, right? What's your favorite moment in sports? It could be anything from as a fan, as a player, as a coach. What's the one thing that kind of like sticks out for you?
00:28:21
Ray
Oh my goodness. Well, it's going to be the first thing that comes to my mind. And I'm i'm a um a Liverpool fan. So thats that's going to make some buy my books.
00:28:33
Ray
I'm not biased probably now or or some turn off your podcast or whatever. But um like the best moment I've had in sport was 2005, the Champions League final.
00:28:38
sessionshare
Right.
00:28:43
Ray
And it's ah it's a reference for quite a lot of stuff you do. um So that if that's, I kind of have to dig deep if I'm going to find the the other ones, but that was that was certainly the first thing that comes to mind and and all the the stuff that you can build around that in coaching about never giving up and and yeah the next goal.
00:29:05
sessionshare
Yeah. Where did you watch that game?
00:29:08
Ray
Oh God, you you want the truth? um i i was still a teacher I was still a student teacher then and I
00:29:11
sessionshare
Yeah, go on. yeah
00:29:17
Ray
I went, I had two of my buddies stay over the night before in the student setup. I went into school that morning, I had a Liverpool tie on and I was like a child, so excited. I pulled a sicky after my first lesson because I couldn't bear it. I couldn't bear, you know, being pent up.
00:29:39
Ray
and yeah it went to a bar in the in the middle of Dublin um and was yeah as you can imagine most people in the bar that much.
00:29:48
sessionshare
that's probably a good night then right
00:29:49
Ray
It was, it was. an But yeah, it's, like I could say, there's so much, I don't want to make everything a life lesson or anything like that, but there was so much that night that that you could refer back to and go, yeah, that was anything as possible kind

Conclusion and Future Projects

00:30:05
Ray
of thing. And that is why people love sport, no matter what, they they love out those underdog moments. So yeah, I'm going to plug for that in this case.
00:30:14
sessionshare
There's probably a good night then, right? Well, thank you very much, Ray, for this conversation. It's been a pleasure. As I mentioned at the beginning of the call, I am a massive fan of your work, and I know our listeners are going to really enjoy listening to this podcast. um You can find Ray's books on Amazon. They're highly recommended. i In particular, like I said earlier, yeah I recommend them to all coaches, whether you're a beginner or an expert.
00:30:39
sessionshare
um You can follow Ray on X. I will leave his handle and the Amazon links on the bio. Ray, just before you go, um can you tell us where we can find about your online courses?
00:30:52
Ray
Yeah, Twitter X.
00:30:55
sessionshare
and
00:30:56
Ray
I never wanted to be a webinar guy, or or I didn't want to be that kind of early. It was lockdown, actually, that kind of merged and what I was doing in coach education with with Zoom, essentially.
00:31:12
Ray
ah So I've never never gone down. but I'm going to build a big fancy website. I'm going to do this. I'm going to get a sponsor and all that. I just just never done it. It's just pure unadulterated. I know that guy who can deliver something really good, come in and we'll we'll put something out there for people and I'll put programs together. and So yesterday, um so it's the 12th, 14th of October today. So yesterday we started a scanning course. So Kevin McGreskin, who's who the yeah one of the leading guys when it comes to to that niche part of football.
00:31:48
Ray
that's still available to be fair if people want want to jump on and and we'll catch them up a little bit. but yeah twitter I sometimes feel like I'm saturating it a little bit but I get excited when there's stuff to be put out there. and collaborations to be made so and X is the main thing once once you've kind of come into my programs most people don't leave them they kind of re-sign up and we have a WhatsApp group that shares what's coming next and all that kind of stuff the best rates to get on stuff and whatnot so yeah Twitter Twitter is the best place for me
00:32:19
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Awesome. Well, that's all about the time we have for, for this episode of Session Share, the Coaches Podcast. Thank you again, Ray, for joining me. Be sure to get in touch across all our social so you can find our podcast description. This has been Session Share, the Coaches Podcast. Thank you for listening and thank you all for coaching the beautiful game.