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#374 Grimsmo's Blade Show adventure
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Introduction to Episode 374
00:00:01
John S
Good morning. Welcome to the business of machining episode number 374. My name is John Saunders.
00:00:07
johngrimsmo
And my name is John Grimsmo.
Focus on Fusion 360 and CNC Machine Workflows
00:00:09
John S
And we're going to talk today about me being knee deep in fusion 360 CNC machine workflows, tooling setups, fixturing processes, 3D printed parts organization.
John Grimsmo's Blade Show Adventure
00:00:20
John S
But that's going to come later cause we got talk because we got talk about you in Blade Show. How was it?
00:00:27
johngrimsmo
Yes. ah Dude, Blade Show was absolutely tip-top phenomenal. Best show we've had. um We brought six guys down and it was excellent crew. Just, everybody had an amazing time. um Had the classic, there's there's always something that goes wrong, right? And the package that we shipped, the three boxes, we shipped a week ahead of time, like plenty of time. UPS, you know, all the knives and pens that we're gonna sell down there. um Still hadn't fully delivered and cleared customs the day we're landing.
00:00:59
John S
oh Oh, nice.
00:01:00
johngrimsmo
um when When we left, we had like a 12 o'clock flight. It got delayed by three hours. But we knew with enough time so we could like sleep in and stay at home. but that actually It was kind of nice, actually. It gave us more time that day to do it. But that meant we got to Atlanta um three hours later.
Travel Chaos and Setup Delays
00:01:18
johngrimsmo
that we like than we expected to, you know, landed at five, not two. And then the Atlanta airport is so big, it took us three hours to like fully exit the airport with our rental car. Because we had to take a shuttle from one end of the airport all the way around to the other to get the rental car and it's just fun, whatever, whatever.
00:01:35
John S
Oh my gosh.
00:01:37
johngrimsmo
But so we were planning on setting up the booth that Thursday night, but we didn't leave the airport till late. So that didn't work. um And we still didn't have our package, still didn't have our knives. And it turns out, so we were shipping it to a UPS depot at a CVS like pharmacy grocery store thing, right?
00:01:57
John S
Dude, you have way more kahunas than I do.
00:02:01
johngrimsmo
And you know they can hold it for days or a week or whatever. um And we're checking the tracking and it says, ah the the recipient has refused the package.
00:02:12
John S
Oh my gosh.
00:02:12
johngrimsmo
And I'm like, no, that's not allowed. What the heck? Um, we wondered if we shipped them too many packages.
00:02:17
John S
Yeah.
00:02:20
johngrimsmo
Like if we had a three max or something, cause we probably shipped five or six total t-shirts and banner and things like that. We had shipped there. Um, it turns out there was a, of the three knife boxes we sent, there was a $97 duty fee on one, a $42 duty fee on the other.
00:02:35
John S
Ugh.
00:02:36
johngrimsmo
And that's why they refused it. And I'm like. No, no. So Friday morning, ah gates open at 8 to set up your booth. um Customers start coming in at 10. So we had between 8 and 10 to set up the booth and go find our knives.
00:02:55
johngrimsmo
So I dropped off for the guys, Eric and the team at the convention center. And I was like, you guys set up the booth, figured out, get all the badges, whatever. Ryan and I are going to zip around to the CVS and see what's going on. They open at 8 30. So we show up at 8 15 and find some of the packages and they have no record, no history, no knowledge of these missing packages.
00:03:09
John S
Hey.
00:03:16
johngrimsmo
and i'm like So I'm like calling UPS and going through the ring around, you know, uh, customer service, customer support, local. I have ah um kind of a broker UPS person that's been helping us clear these packages. I called her in Texas, but it was like five o'clock in the morning in Texas.
00:03:35
John S
hey
00:03:37
johngrimsmo
And anyway, eventually two hours on the phone, I get to the right person and they're like, oh, I see where your packages are. They're all in the same spot. um Two of them have been
Blade Show Success and Customer Experiences
00:03:48
johngrimsmo
cleared to return to sender back home.
00:03:51
John S
Oh.
00:03:52
johngrimsmo
But they haven't moved yet, so they're all together. and And I was like, where is that? I will drive there, pick them up.
00:03:59
John S
Oh.
00:04:00
johngrimsmo
um and and we'll like ah I'll have them today, right? like don't Don't let them move. um They're like, well, you got to pay the duty fees first. I'm like, just tell me how. I'll do it right now. You got to call it UPS accounting and given your tracking numbers. All right, I'll do it. So it was actually really handy. I had my notepad on me because I could write down the tracking numbers, reference them, and not have to look through emails or whatever. whatever So I did that, wrote down all the phone numbers. And you know like when you're on hold and they transfer you to another line, um I always ask now, what is the phone number that you're transferring me to so that if I get dropped, which did happen once, I can just call.
00:04:36
John S
Yeah,
00:04:40
John S
yeah it's a good point.
00:04:40
johngrimsmo
um So I wrote down the number and the name or whatever.
00:04:44
johngrimsmo
And anyway, super easy to pay the fees. um not too much time on hold and just so much calling around. And it turns out that all the packages were at the main UPS hub in Atlanta. like I think they have their own small airport. um It's massive, massive facility. And fun fact, as we're driving up, I'm like, I've done this before. 2019, same exact stuff happened.
00:05:11
John S
Oh.
00:05:14
johngrimsmo
So I guess i five years ago, I forgot my lesson. But anyway, by we we rolled up at the show around 1030 with no knives, except for the six integrals that we brought to sell, which was good because we had those in our light luggage.
00:05:32
John S
There was an integral.
00:05:35
johngrimsmo
It's the Fjell.
00:05:37
John S
Thank you.
00:05:38
johngrimsmo
Yeah. So yeah, we had our six VLs and then the two, one for me and Eric. Um, so we had those to sell, which was good. And they were already sold by the time Ryan and I got there at 10 30.
00:05:51
John S
That's hilarious.
00:05:53
johngrimsmo
So we had four for sale and then two auctions, uh, one auction for Friday and one auction for Saturday, which did very well. Um, our dam of steel fails. And then, uh, Yeah. So then literally I'm sitting there waiting all day for a phone call from UPS. They're like, they will contact you directly. They'll give you a phone call. I got my ringer on, which I never have my ringer on and I'm just checking my phone all the time, like waiting for this phone call. Customers are coming up asking, do you have anything to sell? We tell them the whole story. you know It's a UPS thing. Everybody loves it. They're checking back.
00:06:24
johngrimsmo
And then I finally get a phone call, and we go pick them up. No big deal. I'd already paid my fees. um And the place was 18 minutes away, so like no big deal.
00:06:30
John S
oh my god
00:06:36
johngrimsmo
And then we had them at the booth by 3 o'clock. and then so we had
00:06:40
John S
Oh, pretty good.
00:06:41
johngrimsmo
Like we put out a blast on Instagram and there was a crowd at three o'clock, which was perfect. And that first hour, three to four o'clock was extremely busy.
00:06:50
John S
That's awesome.
00:06:52
johngrimsmo
It was wonderful. And then the show opened until six on that day. um And we did pretty well, but got through probably half our stuff on the first day and then almost all of it on the second day. And then by end of the day on Sunday, we sold the last few things. I think we had three pens left at the end, but it's good to go. um And the show was just phenomenal. Like like you forget. how much customers like you until they're standing right in front of you and they tell you how much it means to them. This one was made on the day my mother passed away and this one I'm going to gift it to my kids and my dad bought me this one for my graduation and all these amazing beautiful stories that really touched the heart and it reminds you and it reminded the rest of my team.
00:07:40
johngrimsmo
kind of the emotional impact we're having on our customers, which you don't see as much through email or through, you know, online transactions. Um, and that's really cool. It was humbling.
00:07:54
John S
Good. it It's nourishing, right?
00:07:56
johngrimsmo
Yeah, exactly. Nourishing. It feeds the soul and, uh, is super cool to watch. Like this one kid came up and he was wearing a blue Grim's bro knives t-shirt that we made in 2019.
00:08:10
John S
That's
00:08:11
johngrimsmo
And he still had it five years later and he wore it to the show. And I'm like, dude, that I remember you. like You were a lot younger.
00:08:20
johngrimsmo
And you know you walk up and you kind of spy the pockets to look for the pocket clip. And I'm like, there's a Norseman in your pocket. Show me, show me. And it was great. It's just wonderful. And like being an expensive product, $1,000 knife, um
00:08:30
John S
awesome.
00:08:35
johngrimsmo
very infrequently do you just sell to a brand new person somebody's just walking by and they're like wow what is this yes I'll buy one like that doesn't really happen because there's that's a lot of money right um so you're trying to build this long-term knowledge and desire within a brand but there was one guy one guy who actually did he walked by he chatted with Steven and some of the guys for like an hour and then he walked away with the Norseman and and I was like good job guys like
00:08:53
John S
Yeah.
00:09:01
John S
Interesting.
00:09:04
John S
Yeah, that's those are really, that's always, yeah.
00:09:07
johngrimsmo
Right? And yeah, everybody had fun. And then um the company that makes our steel, Damasteel. So um like 90% of every knife we've ever made is this either the plain steel that they make or the Damascus steel. Swedish company, awesome guys. I've known them for years. They took us out to dinner. on Friday night to a Michelin star restaurant, which I've never been to a Michelin star restaurant before.
00:09:34
John S
Wow.
00:09:37
johngrimsmo
I had kangaroo and rabbit for the first time. I was like, whoa.
00:09:42
John S
Yeah.
00:09:43
johngrimsmo
It was delicious.
00:09:45
John S
Yeah. Interesting.
00:09:46
johngrimsmo
And ah great chats, great, great time. And then everybody gets back together at the convention center hotel lobby called The Pit.
00:09:55
John S
Yeah. I remember the pictures from you talking about it.
00:09:56
johngrimsmo
and Yeah, yeah, and it's it's literally just this huge you know central, like ah like a mall food court, but without all the tables. so And everybody just hangs out and talks knives and talks business and talks machining. And we did that every night till about two o'clock in the morning, three o'clock the one night, and it was just awesome.
00:10:14
John S
but call
00:10:18
John S
Yeah, that's great.
00:10:19
johngrimsmo
So we got we got four to five hours of sleep, four nights in a row. at the show and just up ripper and ready to go. I didn't eat enough. You know, we drank enough water, but we didn't really have breakfast or like, you know, people would throw bananas at us and we'd thank them profusely.
00:10:35
John S
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:10:38
johngrimsmo
Um, but it was absolutely wonderful. You know, it's just great.
00:10:42
John S
Good.
00:10:45
John S
I feel like there's some somebody's gonna crack this nut around shipping stuff. And I'm not here to throw shade on UPS, USPS, FedEx, like they all, everybody makes mistakes. I get that there's all, everybody has a horror story, but it's more just like, it's categorically absurd that it took the amount of time on your phone call, the risk, uncertainty, frustration,
Dealing with Shipping and Customs Issues
00:11:10
John S
time on the UPS side. Like it costs money to employ these people and chase stuff down.
00:11:13
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:11:13
John S
yeah When ironically, your package is 20 minutes away and you owe them a hundred bucks. like
00:11:18
johngrimsmo
Yeah, totally.
00:11:19
John S
yeah This is there's something that's broken and not to mention the whole like customs and all that stuff which is ridiculous.
00:11:25
johngrimsmo
Yep. And um honestly, I thought the customs fees would be like thousands of dollars, you know, like taxes, import fees, blah, blah, blah.
00:11:30
John S
Oh Really? Yeah Yeah,
00:11:32
johngrimsmo
And I was like 90. How did you even get to $97? I don't care. I'm just going to pay it. I don't care. Like whatever.
00:11:38
John S
well if you have to pay fee then why don't you just I'm just asking why don't you just fly with them and declare them?
00:11:39
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:11:44
johngrimsmo
Um, there are, it's just easier to ship them because, yeah, I agree.
00:11:48
John S
I beg to differ.
00:11:50
johngrimsmo
I agree. Um, we have traveled with them before and there's different forms that have to be filled out and different hassles crossing the border with merchandise. Um, that I guess we just thought it would be easier to ship them.
00:12:01
John S
Yeah, yeah. Sure. if I'm just, um like I don't, yeah, yeah.
00:12:03
johngrimsmo
And no, absolutely. Because like crossing the border, especially in a plane or in a car, you have to declare if you're bringing merchandise to sell. And that leads to a whole rabbit hole that I'm not super familiar with. And I guess that's the thing.
00:12:15
John S
Right.
00:12:18
John S
Yeah.
00:12:19
johngrimsmo
But coming home, it was kind of funny because the rule are, and I looked into it deeply, um
00:12:27
John S
I know, I know where you're going with those 10,000 per person.
00:12:27
johngrimsmo
you it Yeah, $10,000. So you can cross the border with with less than $10,000 per person in whatever currency is, both currencies, whatever, $10,000. um Without it declaring it, if you bring equal or a dollar more, you are supposed to declare it. Otherwise, if you get caught with it, you you could be fined or whatever. They're basically just trying to stop money laundering and like track it. And if you do report it, it gets reported to the government and make sure it's legit kind of thing. And since we're doing this all above board legit,
00:13:04
johngrimsmo
um I researched, I'm like, there's six of us traveling. That's 10,000 per person, right? If you're traveling as a group, it may be 10,000 dollars per group, and it's certainly that case per family.
00:13:19
John S
Interesting. Sure.
00:13:19
johngrimsmo
if
00:13:22
johngrimsmo
I couldn't find like exact rules for this, but I'm like, you know what, whatever. I've already got the form printed out. Spencer, my accountant, filled it out for me. And it's like, I just have to write in the number, declare it. It's no big deal. You don't get feed or charged for it. They just want to know. They just want to record that it's happening.
00:13:37
John S
interesting
00:13:39
johngrimsmo
And since we're recording it on our income, we're paying taxes on it. We're not hiding any of it. It's like, whatever, sure. Let's see what happens. So I brought $21,000 in cash across the border in two Ziploc bags.
00:13:52
John S
serious?
00:13:55
johngrimsmo
and I had the form filled out, declared it, you know, flying home. We fly into Toronto. um It's automated checkout thing.
00:14:02
John S
No one has ever actually hit yes in the history of Toronto Airport.
00:14:04
johngrimsmo
I fill out, yes, I have over $10,000 in cash. So then my my little slip printout that you show the guy has a big X that got attention. Everybody else passed right through, no problem. And I was like, whatever.
00:14:13
John S
yeah no no one has ever actually hit yes in the history of toronto airport
00:14:16
johngrimsmo
Yeah, exactly. And so I had the form filled out and I had the, I had actually had two versions of the form and I gave it to the guy and he's like, Oh, it's all filled out. And I was like, yeah, is there anything else you need? And he goes, well, but there's two versions here. I don't, I only need one of them. Okay. I guess you're good later. And he didn't want to see the cash.
00:14:36
John S
Wow.
00:14:37
johngrimsmo
Didn't want to count it. Didn't anything. I had it all like organized in hundreds and fifties and Ziploc bags and stuff, whatever.
00:14:41
John S
Yeah.
00:14:43
johngrimsmo
It's fine. But then I'm pretty sure that form gets submitted to the government, to the taxes, whatever. And I don't know if we'll hear about it in the future, but ah we're ready for it. It's fine.
00:14:54
John S
Yeah, sure. That's a good, a good learning experience.
00:14:56
johngrimsmo
It was funny.
00:14:57
John S
It's like one of those awkward things where you can't like, you can't really call ahead to be like, Hey, I actually want to play this one by the book, but like, I also am not going to like go out of my way to create lots of hassle on my front.
00:14:58
johngrimsmo
All right.
00:15:07
John S
Cause yeah.
00:15:09
johngrimsmo
Yeah. Like I had a ah friend, law enforcement officer be like, no, no, that 10,000 per person's real. Like abuse that. You know, if you're bringing six people, you can bring up to 60 grand. Like don't even, don't even question it. And then I started to get a little cold feed and I was like, is it per group? Is it per family? Is it per maybe per group means per household, which we all live in different houses. Um, I don't know, whatever. I'm just, I'm just going to do it.
00:15:32
John S
Yeah.
00:15:33
johngrimsmo
Right. It's fine.
00:15:34
John S
Yeah.
00:15:34
johngrimsmo
It's fine.
00:15:36
John S
Well, good.
00:15:36
johngrimsmo
So yeah, super fun.
00:15:38
John S
Did you have to ship stuff back?
00:15:40
johngrimsmo
We did not. Um, like the three pens we had left over, we just threw them in our bag. Um, I didn't want to deal with the hassle of shipping anything back.
00:15:45
John S
Yeah.
00:15:48
johngrimsmo
So the, the four foot by 12 foot banner that we zip tied up to the back rolled up and into the cardboard tube that it arrived in.
00:15:53
John S
yeah
00:15:55
John S
Oh, nice.
00:15:57
johngrimsmo
And we just checked that as luggage. We put a sticker on it as oversized luggage.
00:16:00
John S
Nice. Perfect.
00:16:02
johngrimsmo
It was fine. Didn't even cost us anything extra. So that worked great.
00:16:05
John S
That's awesome.
00:16:07
johngrimsmo
Turned out great.
00:16:09
John S
We'll put it if the way this is where you and i are very different. I, this, your whole story with like raises my blood pressure. Like I can't, um, it's not saying it's a good thing. It just does.
00:16:19
John S
Uh, I would be putting a note in like my February 20, 25 calendar to be just like, remember shipping to blade sucks.
00:16:19
johngrimsmo
Yeah, yeah.
00:16:27
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:16:27
John S
And then like, like do what you want with it. But, uh, holy cow.
00:16:31
johngrimsmo
find Find different ways to do it, yeah.
00:16:33
John S
Yeah.
00:16:34
johngrimsmo
Yeah, yeah. It's like a week ahead of time where like, you know, UPS takes two days to get there, a week is fine, yada, yada. Anyway.
00:16:43
John S
I can't believe you relied on, I mean, CBS like ship center. Oh my, for, for what you, I mean, you already said the number. That's a lot of, Oh man.
00:16:51
johngrimsmo
yeah Yeah, plus plus PayPal of transactions, like those more than that stuff.
00:16:56
John S
ah Oh God, I got it.
00:16:56
johngrimsmo
and And that's good. So I do have a question for you.
00:16:58
John S
Oh man.
00:16:59
johngrimsmo
So I brought that cash to my local bank account. um US s cash in Canada, I do have a US dollar bank account. So I bring it to the bank, my local branch. I actually brought Clara with me. I was like, hey, Clara, do you want to bring 20 grand to the bank?
00:17:14
John S
Oh my God, yeah.
00:17:14
johngrimsmo
you can be my ah You can be my security. I need a purse is what I need. I'm not going to carry it in my pockets, right? So she stuffed it in her purse and she walks in with me. She was all nervous too.
00:17:25
John S
Oh, that's funny.
00:17:26
johngrimsmo
And and I was like, I have some US cash to deposit. and There's people around. I'm like, ah two, one, four, seven, five. like I didn't want to say thousands. Anyway. um so they kept counting it wrong.
00:17:40
John S
All right.
00:17:42
johngrimsmo
And they used the machine and she said, I'm getting a different number. She got $1,600 less than what I counted and we triple counted it. And I'm like, hold on. Let me think about this. So I had to go home to get my counting sheet that wrote down all the, how many hundreds and fifties and whatever we brought. So I took the money home, recounted all the twenties and then it turns out that their count was actually wrong. Like she had two stacks of 20s that she machine counted and she added it up wrong. And I'm like, no.
00:18:14
John S
Yeah, that's crazy.
00:18:14
johngrimsmo
So anyway, my my number was right.
00:18:16
johngrimsmo
Brought it back with my notes and everything. And then they finally got the count right. And then they just called me as I'm driving into the podcast this morning. And they're like, actually we, at the end of the night, we recounted it again, a bunch of times. And we're $200 bills short from what we originally all agreed on. I'm like, yeah, like no.
00:18:37
John S
Things that aren't my problem.
00:18:41
johngrimsmo
Cause I counted $137, $100 bills. You machine counted 137 and now you're saying there's 135? Not like, I don't have them. They were basically wondering if I still had them from when I brought the money home and stuff like that.
00:18:52
John S
Yeah.
00:18:55
johngrimsmo
And I'm like, I don't, I don't know what to do. Like on one hand, it's just $200, whatever.
00:18:59
John S
Sure. I assume they're in a drawer or. I mean, I've never been a bank seller, but they you have to balance your drawer at the end of your shift.
00:19:00
johngrimsmo
On the other hand, the principal in me goes, They disappeared or they're miscounted or the bills are sticking together because they do that sometimes or like I kind of want to come in and recount them myself, you know, like Yeah Right, which is what they did So I don't know what to do this this was 20 minutes ago
00:19:07
John S
sure
00:19:12
John S
assume they're in a drawer or i've never been a bank teller but they you have to balance your drawer at the end of your shift so you're Yeah. I'd be...
00:19:26
johngrimsmo
um
00:19:26
John S
What are they telling
Banking Mishaps and Cash Deposition Troubles
00:19:27
John S
you? What are they asking?
00:19:28
johngrimsmo
I basically, they asked me to like go home and and look for those two missing hundred dollar bills. Um, cause I did have the money. I brought it home the first time and I got my notes and then I brought it back.
00:19:35
John S
That's the...
00:19:40
johngrimsmo
And, uh, so maybe they're wondering if I skimmed the $200.
00:19:41
John S
But...
00:19:44
johngrimsmo
I don't know.
00:19:44
John S
But didn't they... I mean, this is crazy. like
00:19:48
johngrimsmo
It's kind of weird.
00:19:49
John S
I don't know. This is like, whether you're in a bank or you're at a Vegas casino cashing out, like they on security camera footage above you, they like move. They put the money out. They put, they count it in a machine. Like you don't, you don't touch the money after they've counted it.
00:20:03
johngrimsmo
Right.
00:20:04
John S
So I don't, this is weird. I don't know.
00:20:06
johngrimsmo
This is weird. Yeah. So, um, I basically told them, I was like, I, I do have a receipt.
00:20:10
John S
Give have a receipt or deposit slip.
00:20:13
johngrimsmo
Yep.
00:20:13
John S
Yeah. I don't think you have, I don't know.
00:20:15
johngrimsmo
And then basically they, they recounted the money and they're coming up short.
00:20:15
John S
be here
00:20:18
johngrimsmo
Um, and because it is weird, I did touch the money mid count, like they counted once I brought it home, brought it back and they recounted some of it. I don't think they recounted the whole thing. Does that make sense?
00:20:29
John S
Oh, that's not, that's really amateur hour on. Well, you should have done that, but they should have counted all.
00:20:33
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:20:35
John S
I mean, forget about the first trip.
00:20:35
johngrimsmo
Again, yeah.
00:20:37
John S
Yeah, exactly. I have just shove it over.
00:20:38
johngrimsmo
And I don't think they did. I think they only counted the 20s, because I said the 20s are the problem. And then she was like, oh, OK.
00:20:45
John S
That's insane.
00:20:45
johngrimsmo
Anyway.
00:20:46
John S
If a bank accepted 137 hundreds that you left with and brought back and then, um,
00:20:49
johngrimsmo
you Right? So they're probably freaking out, too. Like, OK, let's all be friends here. um But let's get to the bottom of this. um so
00:21:01
John S
wow
00:21:02
johngrimsmo
I mean, I counted it at least three times. There's 137 bills. There there were no no, no joke about it. I don't have the bills.
00:21:10
John S
Wow.
00:21:10
johngrimsmo
So either they disappeared at the bank or they're counting it wrong. Again, they said they had counted them at the end of the day and kept getting 135. So I'm like, I kind of want to come in and count these and just like show me because this is weird.
00:21:23
John S
I don't think you should do anything.
00:21:24
johngrimsmo
Um, yeah.
00:21:26
John S
Because I don't... Think grabbing money back out of a drawer. It's not like they put your money in a segregated drawer. So offering to recount doesn't gain you anything.
00:21:37
johngrimsmo
Okay.
00:21:38
John S
As far as I look, I'm not a banker or lawyer level. Like you have a deposit slip for 137 hundreds and plus the other stuff.
00:21:45
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:21:46
John S
So you're done. Like they can't, I don't know how that'll work.
00:21:47
johngrimsmo
Hmm.
00:21:50
John S
Uh, give a relationship with the bank.
00:21:51
johngrimsmo
Yeah, they they were basically decent. I mean, we've been with this bank for 20 years, like.
00:21:55
John S
No, but you give like a, is there a guy named Paul who handles your commercial relationship?
00:21:59
johngrimsmo
ah Yeah, look, yeah, that's that's true. I do have um several relationships on the business side. This is branch side, but.
00:22:05
John S
No, I understand, but like.
00:22:06
johngrimsmo
Yeah, you're right. I could. I could.
00:22:08
John S
We're not a cash business. The US has the same $10,000 deposit threshold reporting all that.
00:22:14
johngrimsmo
Hmm.
00:22:14
John S
And so if we were to start making a bunch of cash deposits, especially anything over 10, I would absolutely call up my guy, not named Paul, but like and say, hey, here's what's happening. We were at a trade show.
00:22:25
johngrimsmo
True.
00:22:26
John S
We're at to this event. This is what's going on. you know I know there's a standard form, but just wanted to give you a heads up.
00:22:31
johngrimsmo
Mm hmm. Yeah, I didn't heads up. I just walked into the branch and said, Hey, um, they did. So I asked what's, what are my options? What's going to happen? And she goes, well, we could credit your account with the $200 and just like kind of take it out of your account back to the branch. And I was like, I, uh, ah
00:22:52
John S
No.
00:22:52
johngrimsmo
Let's, let's sit on this for 24 hours. I'll go look at home for these bills. And and if you don't hear from me in 24 hours, you can do that. Otherwise I don't know what else our options are, but let's think about this for a minute. Cause I was like, I don't just want to brush this onto of the rug. Like something's wrong here. Um, I don't know what, so I was literally driving in to talk to you and I didn't have enough focus to really take this through, but that's what you're here for too.
00:23:18
John S
Yeah, I mean, it's only 200 bucks, but still the principle of it. And, um, I, I would be take a hard line.
00:23:21
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:23:26
John S
I'm like, no, no, no, we made a deposit. You gave me a slip. You counted the money. Um, that's yeah.
00:23:31
johngrimsmo
If you didn't recount it enough, that's on you. like
00:23:35
John S
And there's something that's just wrong about the idea that they're like, well, we think there was a mistake. made So we're just going to take the money out of your account. Like, uh, yeah.
00:23:42
johngrimsmo
Yeah, just kind of pause there for a minute. um Yeah, and i had I had two bags, one with 50s and 100s and one with 20s, 10s, 5s, and 1s. And I'm pretty sure I only opened the bag with the 20s. um to recount them all. I didn't even touch the bag with a hundred, so it's not like I touched them when they got home.
00:24:05
John S
I mean, the only only sort of thing I could say in the future would be, if you if you do this again, would be at home, count them and put them in, you can probably, they'll probably give you, or you could buy bands, so like $500, $1,000 bands, and then count 10, 10 100s, band them up, count other 10 100s, band them up, and then they can count each band, and like just easier than handing them two inches of greenbacks.
00:24:29
johngrimsmo
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
00:24:34
John S
I'm sorry. That's annoying.
00:24:35
johngrimsmo
So I'll figure that out.
00:24:39
johngrimsmo
Eh, is what it is.
00:24:40
John S
Weird.
00:24:41
John S
Yeah.
00:24:41
johngrimsmo
Weird.
00:24:42
johngrimsmo
But last thing, I did want to thank everybody who came up to me at the show and said they listened to the bomb and really appreciate it. um I love hearing those stories. And yeah, we're all in this together.
00:24:54
John S
Good. Yeah. Isn't that awesome?
00:24:56
johngrimsmo
Yeah, we're all in this together. so Every time like a somebody who works at a gun-related manufacturer popped up, um my guy Steven's really big into guns. He's got a bunch of cool stuff, even within Canada. And I was like, Steven, this guy from 511 Tactical, he's the chief designer at 511, or what was the other one?
00:25:14
John S
Yeah.
00:25:19
johngrimsmo
And there was a, Kimber had a booth like right around the corner from us, and I was like,
00:25:19
John S
No kidding.
00:25:24
johngrimsmo
Steve, you're gonna have to take five minutes and go see the Kimber booth. And he's like, yeah, I am, okay.
00:25:27
John S
That's awesome.
00:25:30
johngrimsmo
But yeah, various stuff like that. And I was like, you know, looking at the little name tags and looking at the the embroidered shirts that people have. And I'm like, really? I saw this old guy um with his kids or whatever, like in his 70s, whatever. And he had these Atlas Copco safety glasses inside his shirt. And just like the arm of the safety glasses were sticking out, said Atlas Copco. And I'm like, Sura, I feel like there's a story with those glasses. You want you want to share? And he's like, I worked for them in the tunnels for 40 years, great company to work for.
00:26:02
johngrimsmo
We board tunnels all over the world and great machinery. And he just went on and on. It was great.
00:26:08
John S
It's cool. It's awesome. It is. It's wonderful. Like you said, nourishing enriching. Like it's, it's great to be out there.
00:26:15
johngrimsmo
Yeah, it's it's different than IMTS, um for one, because we're behind a booth and we're central and it was busy for us.
00:26:21
John S
Yeah.
00:26:23
johngrimsmo
um You know, at IMTS we have a lot of those similar conversations and fun stories and camaraderie with people, but it does have a much different vibe because it's kind of specific product based.
00:26:35
John S
Mm-hmm.
00:26:36
johngrimsmo
You know, it's like around what we make and what we do and people know our story very well. and But then you had all the machinists come up to us too and same stories as IMTS, right? A lot of questions. You going to
Exciting Machining Projects and Robot Showcase
00:26:49
johngrimsmo
IMTS? It's like, yeah, Saunders and I are probably going to IMTS. Yeah, yeah me too.
00:26:52
John S
Yeah, I'm excited for it now. i i yeah i yes there is good um well so i'm um i don't know if i should share this or not but i kind of want to There is a small chance that a famous-ish Hollywood robot that we may or may not have been building for the last five years might be at a show that we just mentioned.
00:26:57
johngrimsmo
Yeah. So yeah, that's my story.
00:27:21
johngrimsmo
Oh.
00:27:21
John S
um I'll leave it at that, because if it doesn't work out, I don't want it to be a bummer, but it would be super fun if it did.
00:27:24
johngrimsmo
Sure.
00:27:27
John S
And it's also been a good, I like it because when I dusted off Johnny Five two months ago, after not having done work on it for quite a few years, really, or a couple of years, I kind of thought to myself, you have that voice in your head of like, super private, but you're like, am I going to fail at this? Like, am I going to, I'm excited on a Saturday afternoon, but the reality has come next Tuesday, it's just going to be back on the back burner.
00:27:52
johngrimsmo
Right.
00:27:52
John S
And it hasn't. It's been awesome. um I've been taking little parts of him home, and then I work on a little part of him because I just can't do it at the shop.
00:27:57
johngrimsmo
Damn.
00:28:01
John S
I'm still too too much involved in real work here. But ah what I have done here, which has just i mean it completely re-sparked my passion for machining, which I guess betrays that I had gotten a little bit burned out a little.
00:28:15
John S
But ah I was telling Yvonne, I was like, no, the UMC 350, we've started building out those container workflows like we talked about, Yvonne actually challenged me. She's like, why are you doing this? You tell Grimsmo he shouldn't be doing it. And so Caleb is is coming up to speed. I gave him Lockwood's AU video. I sent him a couple of vice videos. Because if you don't use joints and user-driven parametric sketches that relate to other solid bodies that also relate to joints, it can be, ah Fusion is not, yeah, there's a way to do it well, and there's a way to want to punch your screen.
00:28:15
johngrimsmo
sure
00:28:46
johngrimsmo
Yeah process Yeah, yeah you guys you guys figure out the new um
00:28:52
John S
Um, but yeah.
00:28:58
johngrimsmo
pin and pin to parent um features in Fusion, like a couple weeks ago.
00:29:01
John S
Explain that. Explain that to me.
00:29:04
johngrimsmo
It's different, but I kind of really, really, really, really, really like it.
00:29:04
John S
I saw.
00:29:07
John S
Okay.
00:29:08
johngrimsmo
um I think it's called pin to parent or joint to parent or something.
00:29:11
John S
Yeah.
00:29:11
johngrimsmo
So basically, if you create a new component, it ground to parent maybe.
00:29:12
John S
it Ground apparent.
00:29:17
johngrimsmo
um It automatically, if you choose, ground grounds it to the one above, to the to the component above it,
00:29:25
John S
Okay.
00:29:26
johngrimsmo
So it's like it's like I used to use joined origint a rigid joint to origin. So create a new component and do a rigid joint to the origin above it.
00:29:34
John S
Mm hmm.
00:29:35
johngrimsmo
I used to do that manually for every single component. And it's just a little tedious. Now they've done it automatically. So if you want, every new component that you insert or drag or create or whatever automatically grounds to the origin above it. um
00:29:48
John S
Would be the origin above it though.
00:29:51
johngrimsmo
like the If you have multiple layers of components,
00:29:54
John S
Okay, so let's say I'm in Fusion and i have um I just have three separate CAD files in a Fusion folder. I have a Fjell handle, I have a Fjell bearing, I have a Fjell blade.
00:30:03
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:30:04
John S
So those all those all share a hole to pivot on.
00:30:07
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:30:07
John S
Walk me through...
00:30:09
johngrimsmo
So you could create a new assembly file and you'd drag one in and then you'd, I think it would automatically ground to parent, which would be the the top level, like the design, the, yeah, the assembly.
00:30:20
John S
Nothing, yeah, the assembly.
00:30:22
johngrimsmo
And then you drag the next one and it would also ground to the design where you, you know, when you drag it in, you can move it into place first.
00:30:28
John S
Yes.
00:30:29
johngrimsmo
So once you move it, then it grounds automatically there.
00:30:31
John S
OK.
00:30:34
johngrimsmo
And you can undo it. You can unpin from whatever, um unground. and Once you learn the intricacies, like move it into position first and then let it do its ground thing, it's it kind of saves saves me some time, which is really nice. And then the pin feature, which is now the old ground feature, which is kind of like a temporary you know hold it in place kind of thing, that doesn't work if you drag that whole assembly into another assembly. Now it's just loose in space.
00:31:03
John S
Yes. Right.
00:31:05
John S
If you put the whole knife into a sheath file, it's like something breaks there, right?
00:31:05
johngrimsmo
um
00:31:09
johngrimsmo
everything moves around. So that's why you do these joint origins.
00:31:11
John S
ah Okay.
00:31:13
johngrimsmo
So ground component or joint the component to the origin, like literally the the click on origin above it is what I ground to.
00:31:21
John S
Got it.
00:31:23
johngrimsmo
um But this new ground to parent seems to work extremely well for that. And then they still have the pin feature, which is the temporary ground, which we'll all use now in like a cam file if I just want to keep it from moving.
00:31:36
John S
Yeah, stop moving. Yeah, don't move.
00:31:38
johngrimsmo
Yeah, don't move.
00:31:38
John S
Right.
00:31:39
johngrimsmo
But ah knowing that a pin is local temporary only, it doesn't work on the following like files used forward.
00:31:39
John S
Right.
00:31:45
John S
Got it.
00:31:47
johngrimsmo
So play with it. um
00:31:48
John S
Yeah.
00:31:49
johngrimsmo
it's a way to to i mean joint origins or Joints let you like rotate and slide and all that stuff. And sometimes you need that. This is mostly just a drag-in part. Keep it still so it doesn't go flying a flying all over the place.
00:32:02
John S
Okay. Okay. Got it.
00:32:05
John S
Got it. Got it. Okay.
00:32:05
johngrimsmo
ground to parent.
00:32:07
johngrimsmo
Yeah, it confused me for a little bit. I'm like, this isn't working like I think it's going to work. And then I got used to it. And I'm like, this is pretty sick.
00:32:14
John S
I'm putting that on my to-do list. Watch. Find video on ground to pair. I'm sure there's a best practices.
00:32:21
John S
I think, think most of the stuff that I've got to do or Caleb or whatever is going to be more about joy. So we're actually filming, I filmed a video this morning. I'm going to edit it and get it up maybe today or tomorrow on, uh, kind of what we're dealing with both the VF2 and the UMC. there They're similar in the sense that it's two quote unquote new machines that we're kind of bringing online with workflows that I think are our our best efforts and the latest and greatest that we can present internally. They're different in that the VF2 will be a production
00:32:21
johngrimsmo
yep
00:32:53
John S
dedicated machine, so the limited number of tools because it's ah it's aluminum production, so there's a lot of, you know, 20 or 30 tools will do everything we need. But still, there's some really good practices around Fusion, the tool libraries, the puck chucks, the Fusion, CAM setups, simulation, replacing tools, storing the tools, like extra tools, all that.
00:33:13
johngrimsmo
Mhmm.
00:33:13
John S
UMC has a lot of similarities to that, except it's a prototype machine. So I want to have over 100 tools, rotating tool assemblies, tools that are set up. The heights are in the machine. They're in a fusion library. Some of them will be in the AT&T. Some of them will be manual. And then the container method. I already made two parts. And John, I i know you you make five fax of parts every day. It's been a while since I made one. I made two hydraulic parts for Johnny Five. They're they're discontinued fittings. Actually, I have some of them. Some of them are not discontinued. Like there's a needle valve.
00:33:45
johngrimsmo
Okay.
00:33:45
John S
ah there's There's the cylinder. But there's one fitting here. that is has been discontinued. I actually, we had to do some metal 3D prints, and so I tossed one in, because it cost like $3 to add it in, um just to see what it would look like.
00:33:58
johngrimsmo
nice
00:33:59
John S
But I machined one, and it was a part that could be done with what I'll call standard tools. You know, 3-32nd end mill, slitting saw, drills, end mills, deburr tool. And put it in there, Fusion gave me all the simulation, um And zero point system means that probing is, we're using G59, so I don't have to probe anything.
00:34:23
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:34:23
John S
And then in six minutes, I had this part done. and yeah And then I did the next part, the little tiny ferrule fitting that goes inside of that. And I was just on fire.
00:34:34
johngrimsmo
it Yes.
00:34:35
John S
I was like, this is awesome.
00:34:39
johngrimsmo
Yeah. Once you have your tool library set and kind of standard tools that can do most things and the container method and and like a solid set of vices and zero point like modeled up in fusion ready to go, you know, you have your stock, the container method has a stock parameters, things like that, it's it does get easier.
00:34:43
John S
Yeah.
00:34:47
John S
yeah
00:34:54
John S
yeah
00:34:56
johngrimsmo
And we don't do a lot of kind of one off prototyping new parts here, although making the fialyte did have a lot of like new stuff. um So I, you know, reacquainted myself, especially on the Willemin with like, throw together a new part. um But yeah, it's a great method for doing it.
00:35:15
John S
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and like we this isn't this is not the part, it's kind of similar. This is 3D printed, and we'll stay 3D printed, but there's a aluminum version of this that's more of a ah radius here, so more infill, and has four tapped holes and a center hole through it.
00:35:20
johngrimsmo
Okay.
00:35:32
John S
We need more of those, and running those on the UMC350, it's like a joke, it's so awesome. and And I like it from a risk standpoint that, um You know, I wish the UMC 30 had certain features. It doesn't, you know, all that.
00:35:48
johngrimsmo
sure
00:35:48
John S
I also would not want a current for this, even if I was a billionaire, like this is not current type risk of around crashing and goofing and all that.
00:35:51
johngrimsmo
Right.
00:35:55
johngrimsmo
Yeah, exactly.
00:35:57
John S
Um, so I'm actually like super happy.
00:36:00
johngrimsmo
That's awesome.
00:36:01
John S
Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:01
johngrimsmo
then I remember a couple of weeks ago, a couple months ago, you're like, ah, this UMC won't sell. like
Maximizing Machine Usage and Maintenance Tips
00:36:06
johngrimsmo
I don't need it. I want something else. I want to get, you know, and you're like, well, I i have it. Let's use it.
00:36:11
John S
Yeah. Yeah. Done. Yeah.
00:36:12
johngrimsmo
I mean, you're you're going to put what, 200 hours of dicking around on it. If you do want to sell it eventually, like you're not, you're not wearing it out. You know what I mean? You're like, you're using it and it's costing you nothing.
00:36:20
John S
Totally. Yes.
00:36:24
johngrimsmo
Like really, um, you're right.
00:36:26
John S
I don't think of it. i know you yeah yeah yeah I try to say hard on myself, but last time you and I talked about this, I was planning on considering upgrading it to the new UMC that allegedly Haas is coming out with.
00:36:38
johngrimsmo
sure
00:36:38
John S
um I'm, I'll still keep an open mind, but the way this is running now, because I'm, I'm this close to fixing the tool changing program. I've got one, I'm stumped on one thing on it. Um, this is a great job. Like, I don't like love it.
00:36:53
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:36:54
John S
Holy cow.
00:36:54
johngrimsmo
Yeah. That's awesome.
00:36:55
John S
And it's the few parts I've made have looked great. I was kind of wondering if this thing was going to be a wet noodle so far. It's it's been good.
00:37:03
johngrimsmo
That's epic. That's so good to hear. Good.
00:37:06
John S
Yeah.
00:37:07
johngrimsmo
good
00:37:09
John S
um Otherwise what I was saying is I feel like I'm in a holding pattern, but um We've got I've got some vacation coming up. We're waiting on the Wilhelmin, which will be here in 40 days Which will be like no time blink and I?
00:37:24
johngrimsmo
yeah
00:37:25
John S
You the vf2 is coming online UMC is coming online um So I'm feel like There's plenty to do, but I'm kind of like, okay, the real plan, I think I say this a lot, which is kind of an internal alarm. The real plan is the second half of this year, because once the Wilhelmin is back, we'll be able to get back into some things that we want to keep making or actually iterate on and and prototype from accessories for mod vices to the manual puck chuck.
00:37:42
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:37:51
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:37:56
John S
And then. Having the UMC really cranking will help unlock other quality of life stuff we want to make. And then I need to do some marketing videos around Gen 3 Mod Vices now, the default option when you buy stuff on our website. we We basically never announced that, we just did it.
00:38:09
johngrimsmo
Good.
00:38:11
John S
But we have turret we have turret grips now for holding round parts with turret jaws. So there's actually some legit new stuff, but we should do a video on that. We should do a video on the puck chuck. um And then, well, it's turning that, turning the steering the conversation towards something that's less exciting. you know I meant to, I wanted to ask you, how do you handle maintenance in your shop? And the example that made me want to ask you this was I walked by one of our compressors and the air dryer has, I think it's honestly like a 200 hour default alarm where it just says service interval after 200 hours, which is ridiculous because
00:38:47
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:38:48
John S
I check the thing all the time. It's like always fine, but that's not a good answer. um So how do you handle all of the maintenance of filters, pumps, service alarms, oil changes? The list goes on.
00:39:02
johngrimsmo
You'll like this answer. I don't. Angelo does.
00:39:05
John S
Okay. Okay, great.
00:39:07
John S
it How does Angela handle it?
00:39:07
johngrimsmo
um
00:39:09
johngrimsmo
i yeah yeah I think um a lot of the things we have notes on the device, like on our bag filters, we have a big piece of cardboard with date and last replacement and what micron filter.
00:39:10
John S
Did you know?
00:39:20
John S
Mm hmm.
00:39:22
johngrimsmo
And I can see the past two years to history. um And it's right next to those pressure gauges that are like a pressure differential gauges.
00:39:24
John S
Okay.
00:39:30
johngrimsmo
So every time we walk by the current, we're like, You know, the cooling pressure is 42 PSI in, 45 PSI out. So it's a little bit of pressure increase through the filters. That's fine. If it starts to spread more, then we know we need to replace it. And it is starting to spread a little bit now. But I can tell the last filter went in in like September, like a long time ago, but it's still good.
00:39:49
John S
Oh.
00:39:50
johngrimsmo
um So we track it kind of visually, manually like that. We do not have any schedules, reminders, calendars, things like that. And we've always talked about wanting it.
00:40:00
John S
Yeah.
00:40:01
johngrimsmo
Things like the air compressor I know the guys check in they empty the empty the drain bucket every few days, so they're always like looking and and the screen kind of yells at you and tells you when the next service interval is.
00:40:12
John S
Okay.
00:40:13
johngrimsmo
And we've kind of been putting off having Kaiser come in and do like an annual PM on it. because that's one of those things, it's like it's a bigger conversation than just putting new filters in it because we have now two Kaiser air compressors. One is plugged in and running and the other is repaired and sitting there. And we want to sync them, not even turned on, not even plugged in.
00:40:36
John S
Not even turned on.
00:40:38
John S
Oh, wow.
00:40:38
johngrimsmo
um We want to sync them together and have them be redundant backup, you know, switch every Monday kind of thing, have two tanks now.
00:40:46
johngrimsmo
um But that's a bigger conversation because we need now twice the power run to that corner of the shop.
00:40:46
John S
Yeah.
00:40:53
johngrimsmo
So getting the electrician in and then there's the syncing.
00:40:53
John S
Oh, Lee lag.
00:40:58
johngrimsmo
whatever they have to do to program that and get it together and then plumbing it up.
00:40:58
John S
Yeah.
00:41:02
johngrimsmo
Like it's just slightly more complicated than yes, new filters, please. Um, but that's also delaying the actual maintenance. Like like we're not putting the new filters in and we probably should. Um,
00:41:17
John S
But is that all still Angelo?
00:41:19
johngrimsmo
yeah, pretty much like he talks to me about it.
00:41:20
John S
like
Budgeting and Maintenance Strategies
00:41:21
johngrimsmo
They asked me questions and I'm like, I don't know. What do you want to do?
00:41:23
John S
Right. but yeah But if, and I'm being super picky or specific on a question, if Angelo wanted to spend $2,000 to have an electrician come in to have Kaiser do a lead lag work, whatever that's going to cost.
00:41:36
johngrimsmo
Sure.
00:41:36
John S
Does that, does that still get approved by somebody else?
00:41:37
johngrimsmo
That's a good question.
00:41:40
johngrimsmo
It absolutely does still get approved by me. He wouldn't do it on his own, but honestly, I would be happy if he did, you know, like there's full trust there.
00:41:48
John S
Yeah. right Yeah.
00:41:50
johngrimsmo
I do need to kind of, um,
00:41:54
johngrimsmo
what do you open the checkbook, whatever you call it, like give him more permission to do things like that, purchasing things like that.
00:41:58
John S
Yeah. yeah
00:42:00
johngrimsmo
And that's just a conversation we need to have. Um,
00:42:03
John S
But that's like, if anybody is listening who's done more in business than John and I have, you're probably laughing. But it's like, now it's all of a sudden like, you really need to ask Angela to put together a quarter or annual budget, which now means you're, you're tasking somebody with budgeting, which I just was kind of like, I like being
00:42:09
johngrimsmo
Sure.
00:42:15
johngrimsmo
Sure. Yeah.
00:42:18
johngrimsmo
They don't want to do that.
00:42:20
John S
Yeah, right. But it's the point. And then you've got like budget reconciliation, which you don't have to do, or very variance analysis of like, what does, and then you get the ulterior motives of like, Oh, Grinsville gave me 10 grand.
00:42:27
johngrimsmo
Right.
00:42:33
John S
I only spent two, so I should really just spend some money. I don't want to lose my budget.
00:42:37
John S
And I don't know the but right like i didn Part of it is because I know too much because I've seen it the other side.
00:42:37
johngrimsmo
Yep.
00:42:37
johngrimsmo
Yep. Oh, that's big. Big business. You hear it, yeah.
00:42:43
John S
um but i also like So if I walked into your shop and a compressor filter or a current filter was was beyond the stay, it should have been replaced to the point where it wasn't causing a problem that stopped the machine, but it was like, oh, this is not good. Does that, like, do you have some, this is a bad way to bring this up. Like, do you have somebody who's like, hey, what um Paul, somebody who doesn't work there. Paul, why what's going on here? Why did this get missed? You don't have that. Like.
00:43:12
johngrimsmo
Not super rigidly. Angelo's pretty much in charge of delegating those tasks. if If I need something done or if I see something that needs to be done, like that filter's really you know toast. Then I tell him and then he tells the guys to get it done.
00:43:24
John S
Yeah. Sure. Sure. Yeah.
00:43:26
johngrimsmo
and Or I'll tell the guy directly if it's easy. and Otherwise, I mean, they do a really good job because they sweep in the shop every single day. It helps them see leaks. It helps them see, you know, that he makes sure that everybody does a quick walk around of the machine, look for stuff. Like he's really trying to teach them how to see what the machine is doing and listen to it and, you know, look for drips and look for door seals that are going bad and, you know, clean the glass and things like that.
00:43:42
John S
Mm hmm.
00:43:54
johngrimsmo
and Just really get intimate with with the machine um to be able to notice.
00:43:59
John S
Yeah.
00:44:01
johngrimsmo
But yeah, we could totally, and we'll continue to step up our preventative maintenance. yeah I mean, Angelo's Mr. Preventative Maintenance. like Oh yeah, he's he's got a Porsche Cayenne, and he does it on the book every time.
00:44:08
John S
Oh, really?
00:44:14
johngrimsmo
like you know He's obsessed with that kind of stuff.
00:44:16
John S
Yeah.
00:44:17
johngrimsmo
And it's great, and it translates to the shop. And I'm kind of, yeah, well, it's still going fine. like
00:44:23
John S
Yeah, yeah, right.
00:44:27
John S
Okay, good to know. we do have We do use Lex for a lot of maintenance stuff and it's great because it's it's it's reactive it's us reacting to a PM schedule.
00:44:31
johngrimsmo
Hmm, sounds like it.
00:44:37
John S
um And I'm still on a few of those things, which is okay.
00:44:38
johngrimsmo
Is it good? Like it works?
00:44:42
John S
Yeah, for the most part, but I don't want to fill it up with a bunch of noise, like these little seemingly often blinking service interval on the dryer, which again, maybe um maybe maybe a bad answer, but like in eight years, I don't think we've ever had a dryer that needed any work or drain, like just, they kind of take care of themselves. So it's kind of like, that's annoying.
00:45:03
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:45:04
John S
I don't really want to add a like, clear that alarm task, or check it out. Now we do, We kind of have catch-alls where it's like, hey, every time we do check the oil levels, we also just do, like you said, sort of check the other state of things.
00:45:15
johngrimsmo
Hmm.
00:45:17
John S
So I just ask, I'm just curious.
00:45:21
johngrimsmo
And especially on the older machines like the Wilhelmin, you open the, whatever you call it, the mechanical cabinet and you see all the filter regulators and all that stuff and those those cups under the filters, um they they crack and they leak and they get old.
00:45:32
John S
Yeah.
00:45:35
johngrimsmo
They're 20 years old. And so I try to make a point myself of like poking my head in there and like listening for leaks and like, oh yeah, that one's pretty cracked.
00:45:36
John S
Yeah.
00:45:44
johngrimsmo
That's going to explode any day now.
00:45:44
John S
yeah Yeah. Yup.
00:45:47
johngrimsmo
um And you you don't know if you always ignore it or if you turn the music up louder We don't play music in the shop, but you know what I mean? It's that whole drive drive the car thing and it's making a squeak.
00:45:53
John S
Yeah.
00:45:55
johngrimsmo
So you turn up the music now I Don't know so today's my first day back all the guys that went took Monday and Tuesday off and I just
00:45:57
John S
Right. All right. Well, what do you have to do today?
00:46:10
johngrimsmo
I didn't think about work much. You know, I digested the show. I had a lot of great ideas, a lot of great conversations, but I was kind of like, what am I going to do when I get back? I don't have any direct, I don't know what I'm doing right now, to be honest.
00:46:20
John S
Okay.
Knife Design Feedback and Improvements
00:46:23
johngrimsmo
I'm going to check with Angelo, see how it goes.
00:46:23
John S
Okay.
00:46:25
johngrimsmo
And I I got to dump all my show receipts on our accountant and kind of close that up, but give all my footage to Ryan so he can start editing the video that we filmed down there.
00:46:29
John S
That's so totally acceptable.
00:46:35
John S
Nice.
00:46:41
johngrimsmo
And I don't know. I think with the Fjell knife, I had so much good feedback. um that There's a knife maker from Belarus that I admire greatly, Dmitry Sinkovich. His brain for design is unlike anything I've ever seen. And we've become friends over the years. We see each other at Blade Show. And he he saw the integral and he looked at it and he held it and I got to see his like reaction and personal opinions.
00:47:07
John S
Okay.
00:47:10
johngrimsmo
And he's like, I love in his thick Belarusian accent. He's like, I love the handle. I love jealous of the desire the angle here, the everything. I love the handle. I hate the blade. The blade's not big enough.
00:47:24
John S
Oh.
00:47:24
johngrimsmo
And i so I was trying to justify and explain, well, when you close it, I want it to be flush right here. And this is the reason why it's like, Because if you look at it, the handle looks kind of big and the blade looks kind of small. and It's like, I know that. and These are the reasons. And he goes, well, expand your limits. Like, why? Just break the rules. Move the pivot.
00:47:44
John S
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:47:44
johngrimsmo
Make the blade a bit. Why does it have to be flush? It'll look better if it sticks out, like here. so And some of that kind of feedback that I got at the show will, the next few weeks, cause me to like stare at it unblinkingly for a while. to figure out what I'm going to change for the upcoming production of the knife or what I'm going to stand my ground on and what I'm going to be like, no, I get it.
00:48:07
John S
yeah Yeah, right.
00:48:09
johngrimsmo
It could do that, but I could also just keep it. It's fine. And I got to figure out what's going on there. But a couple of things, the clip is definitely going to change up. That was sort of a I'm not even happy with the design of the clip.
00:48:24
John S
Oh.
00:48:25
johngrimsmo
But if I'm going to have knives to bring to Blade Show, it's fine.
00:48:29
John S
Yeah, okay.
00:48:29
johngrimsmo
<unk> where That's where I was at last week. um I'd rather it mechanically work as opposed to aesthetically be perfect, whatever. So I'll be tweaking that over the next week and kind of make make the next version, which should satisfy me. See, that's where I'm at.
00:48:45
John S
Okay. Good.
00:48:46
John S
good
00:48:46
johngrimsmo
What are you up to today?
00:48:49
John S
Testing out um a VF2 new fixture, one of the guys programmed it, one of the only quirks, and it's such a good example of like tribal-ish learning, they use a duplication pattern, did all the cam, Garrett did all himself, which is awesome, except duplication patterns don't really work for G68 stuff because you can't apply G68 swapping between two different parts.
00:49:14
johngrimsmo
Okay, kind of yeah rotation doesn't pattern well.
00:49:15
John S
Makes sense? Like, verification value. just doesn't pattern, right?
00:49:20
John S
yeah Yeah. You have to have the G68 applied while you run operations for that part.
00:49:20
johngrimsmo
Yeah, okay.
00:49:25
johngrimsmo
Sure.
00:49:25
John S
So easy fix. So we got all that there. So literally go click start run and run that. And then I'm going to edit this video real quick. um And then, you know, a bunch of not fun, not fun, just like, you know, I like getting rigging lineup for the, for the Wilhelmin, I've got a Fusion Team issue I've got to solve out, three we three d metal 3D printed, some new clamps that look like they're not gonna work, so it's like what happened there, why troubleshoot those?
00:49:53
John S
ah sir
00:49:53
johngrimsmo
Remind me, what's your turnaround time on the metal 3D print?
00:49:56
John S
Um, usually I don't pay, sorry, I don't pay clues for the extension. Um, they say, I think when I order it, it's like four to nine days and sometimes it's a day or two quicker than nine. But the last one, there were some holidays was like, I don't know, eight, nine, or probably.
00:50:07
johngrimsmo
Like but less than two weeks.
00:50:12
John S
Yes.
00:50:13
John S
All right. Less than two weeks.
00:50:13
johngrimsmo
That's awesome.
00:50:14
johngrimsmo
That's awesome.
00:50:15
John S
Yeah.
Final Tasks and Troubleshooting Metal 3D Printing
00:50:16
John S
Um,
00:50:16
johngrimsmo
That's cool.
00:50:18
John S
Yeah, we're using craft cloud, no secret, like just upload SCLs and these parts.
00:50:22
johngrimsmo
sure
00:50:24
John S
Like I wanted some clips for the ah pocket knife I'm carrying that doesn't come with a clip. So I had three printed them and then I metled the printed those.
00:50:29
johngrimsmo
Nice.
00:50:31
John S
Those are, I don't know, I think under $10 a piece.
00:50:34
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:50:34
John S
um Actually, now that I have the UMC, I can just make this. Oh my God, that's great. Oh my God. That just, the light bulb just went off.
00:50:38
johngrimsmo
Should you?
00:50:40
John S
Cause I was like, I don't want it to two three access this part.
00:50:42
johngrimsmo
Should you? You can do whatever you want for fun, but should you?
00:50:46
John S
Uh, Yeah, fair point. i My talking out loud, my justification to accepting the DIY responsibility is
00:50:55
johngrimsmo
Practice. Practice the machine and...
00:51:00
John S
and This is the oh slide from Black Fox that I really like, and I probably pull it out of my pocket if I had to guess 20 to 30 times a day.
00:51:03
johngrimsmo
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:11
johngrimsmo
Good.
00:51:12
John S
So having a clip, and this is still one of the 3D printed clips.
00:51:14
johngrimsmo
Nice.
00:51:15
John S
When they break, I just replace them. um So having the security of that clip not losing it is worth something to me.
00:51:21
johngrimsmo
of course
00:51:21
John S
And that part now, this part, which is just a very basic knife handle, I can have done in the UMC and I mean, if you could teleport to here right now, I could, I think I could be holding this as a machine part in, I would wager under 15 minutes done.
00:51:39
johngrimsmo
Yeah, I was going to guess, guess 20.
00:51:39
John S
Like so dead, like deads dead, dead serious.
00:51:41
johngrimsmo
Yeah.
00:51:41
John S
Now I don't have the stock cut for it. So that would take a few minutes to stock cut.
00:51:44
johngrimsmo
Yeah, right.
00:51:45
John S
Otherwise, actually, if you, so if we did it as a true challenge and you teleported here right now, we just hung up the podcast. I bet you.
00:51:56
John S
I might even be able to have this done in under like nine eight, nine minutes.
00:51:59
johngrimsmo
Dude.
00:51:59
John S
Seriously. That's the intent. like they Drop it in. Tool pass is there. The adapters are there. The part off is there. this This is a simple part. um Yeah, I think it'd be really quick.
00:52:09
johngrimsmo
That's crazy. Sweet.
00:52:11
John S
Yeah. All right. I'll see you next week.
00:52:14
johngrimsmo
Alright, Ben.
00:52:15
John S
Take care.
00:52:16
johngrimsmo
Good chatting.
00:52:16
John S
Bye.
00:52:17
johngrimsmo
Bye.