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Handling Setbacks
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On this episode of the VO Bar podcast, Victoria, Will, and Al talk about setbacks, how to deal with them, and what some common setbacks voice actors encounter are.
Chapters:
[00:00:00] Setbacks and Struggles
[00:01:29] Navigating Auditions and Holds
[00:04:18] The Voiceover Business
[00:07:40] Professional Etiquette in Voiceover
[00:10:30] Voiceover Industry Realities
[00:29:55] Dealing with Allergies
[00:31:20] Mental Resilience
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Transcript
Facing Frustration and Thoughts of Quitting
00:00:00
Speaker
I'm gonna sell everything. Sell it all. Forget this. I'm no good. I can't do this. I'm just gonna sell all the stuff. Sell it. I'm just gonna give it away. Today we're talking about setbacks and struggles. When things go wrong. That happens a lot. Yeah.
00:00:28
Speaker
when things go right. That happens less often. It does. It does. That's probably not true. It's probably pretty even. I guess it depends on your mindset, right? Oh, yeah. I see where you went. Yeah. I mean, it does. It depends on how you look at it, right? Yeah. I mean, you should be so lucky, I guess, to book the job. Right. And then you should probably celebrate that for others when they do.
00:00:57
Speaker
even if it didn't go to you. I am genuinely happy when I hear a voice that I know.
00:01:04
Speaker
Oh, that's awesome. I'm less enthusiastic when I hear something I've auditioned for and it's... Not good. Wow. Did they go another way or what? Like they, they, I think they just grabbed somebody in the... Coffee room? Coffee room, yeah. Maybe, like it's really a different way. Like at one point... They grabbed the barista from Starbucks
Coping with Setbacks and Overlooked Roles
00:01:25
Speaker
and said, hey. You can do voiceover. Do this. You sound conversational and not anouncery at all. Yeah. So... No.
00:01:35
Speaker
Could you fry it a little more? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yes, I totally can. Yes, we just lost all of our listeners. We're just like, yeah, you're welcome. And you gained a whole new batch. I do think it's a matter, it is, good point, it is very much a mindset. Yeah. Well, I mean, because say you get, and I've had a couple of holds recently that fell through and you've had a couple that fell through.
00:02:04
Speaker
but you still got the hold, right? Right. I know. So, like, you got past the audition process, you beat however many other people auditioned for it, except maybe one or two. Yeah. And that's the number you have to think about. And then, you know, at that point, it's kind of a coin toss, really.
00:02:21
Speaker
You know, it's the difference between, did the person making the decision have a BLT for lunch or a burrito? And how does that affect how they're hearing things now? I mean, who knows? Or that's when they look at your social media. Well, hopefully they're not looking at your social media. Well, at least not mine. To decide things. Ideally, that shouldn't factor in. I know it does in some cases, but it shouldn't. I mean, the only thing I get going against me is like, oh, she must be a dog or cat person. Ew.
00:02:52
Speaker
She likes animals. Ew. We hate animals here. For real. I mean, it is a matter of looking at it from... So I'm curious. For me personally, I audition, forget about it. Right?
Anticipation and the Booking Process
00:03:08
Speaker
So I'm curious to know, you know, what is that process when you know you're on hold?
00:03:13
Speaker
Now that thing that you threw away don't care about, now you start thinking like, oh my gosh, that's cool. And then usually I go back to even like, I don't remember, like, when did I audition for that? What even was this? Yeah, because I really forget about it. Genuinely audition, forget about it. Yes. I mean, there are times where it was like yesterday or, you know, Friday last week and now it's Tuesday or what, you know,
00:03:39
Speaker
Right. But it seems like more often than not, it's weeks and weeks, if not months ago. Suddenly it comes up and they go, what even is this? I don't remember. Yeah. Sure. And then you go look it up and you go, oh, all right, I guess they liked that. And then you get excited, like, oh, I'm going to book this. I got some money coming. And then. Right. No, sorry. No, sorry. We went a different way. But it happens. But you still got there. You were so close.
00:04:06
Speaker
So it means you did everything right. And once you get to that point, there's nothing else you can do about it. Yeah, it sucks. I'd rather have to win. But then you've got to forget again. It's hard to forget the second time. That's what I was like, how do you manage that? It's like, OK, well, because then I go back and, OK, I'm on hold.
00:04:27
Speaker
what did I do? So I go back and I listen to the audition again. Like, oh, okay. All right. So that that way you can kind of prep yourself.
00:04:37
Speaker
when you do get to the session. Because if you've given a couple of reads or let's say it's one of those things where it's a tag and you're like, oh shoot, I gave them around a five. Which one do they like? Do they like them all? Do they like one and three? It gets a little too obsessive. So it's almost like I have to go through this whole don't worry about it. If it works out, it does. It's great. But if it doesn't, fine. But it's,
00:05:02
Speaker
It's rarely ever just fine, but... Well, hopefully when you get to that point, it's a live session and you could at least ask them. Yeah. Usually they do. Oh, for sure. Usually they do have it available. Or they'll just tell you, we're going to play back the one we liked or whatever. Right.
00:05:19
Speaker
That helps a lot. Well, I mean, it's okay to feel bad about it, obviously,
Flexibility and Schedule Changes
00:05:24
Speaker
because we're so close. I would say that I feel bad. I think it's more of a, it's kind of a letdown, right? Because you then start, when you're agent or whomever, your client directly is like, hey, what's your schedule look like for this timeframe? And all the sort of things that you're like, oh, shoot, can I move that? Or let's say someone had a dental appointment,
00:05:47
Speaker
Well, I'm looking at you. That never happens. You had a dental appointment, and you knew you had a session coming up, so you're like, oh, crap. It was actually the other way around. Oh, was it? Yeah. So the session was booked, or I think I already had a hold, and I just didn't know what time it was going to be. So I got the earliest I could into the dentist, because I had a filling pop out. I didn't want to let it out for a long time. It wasn't quite an emergency, but I wanted to get it taken care of.
00:06:17
Speaker
Right. And so yeah, so I got in as early as I could in the morning. Right. I said, look, I've got to record a national commercial this afternoon. So let's skip the Nova cane because I don't want to be numb for that. I can't. I can't imagine. She looks at it and she goes, well, yeah, it's not that deep. We can we can try. Like, all right, let's do it. And I felt it.
00:06:43
Speaker
Like a couple seconds. It was like, yeah. But yeah, it wasn't that bad. It wasn't that bad. But can you imagine? You thought you booked it?
00:06:53
Speaker
And they cancel it last minute after I'm like, oh, yeah, I just went and got this filling with no Novocaine. Thanks for that. Thanks, guys. Thanks so much. Of course, it would have been worse, though, if I would have gotten the Novocaine. And they're like, oh, gee, our national commercial, I guess. And I can't remove my mouth. It's like, oh, can we move out the session an hour earlier? Are you ready? Like, no, no, no, no. I can't do it. Sorry. Can we move it to tomorrow?
00:07:17
Speaker
So yeah, I mean, that's one of the things you do start looking at your schedule very differently when you're on a hold.
Voiceover vs. On-Camera Holds
00:07:25
Speaker
It's kind of what I noticed. It's a little bit different in voiceover than it is for on camera because if they put you on a hold, if you're pinned for something, that means you're kind of locked in already.
00:07:40
Speaker
Now they're just trying to figure out exactly when it's going to happen. So it's nice that I got the hold and the release on the same day. The other one wasn't like that. The other one went through the weekend and I was given ample notice but on camera, nope.
00:07:59
Speaker
And I did have a session that they canceled day of and wanted to do it a few days later or the following week, whatever it was. And my rep went after that fee. Of course.
00:08:13
Speaker
So that does exist, but you have to have somebody advocating for you to get that fear, because it's theirs too. You can't just put us on hold and then not have it happen. So I guess avails and holds and all that kind of things are a little bit different for us. I think I've had a hold that dematerialized, but I've definitely had avails.
00:08:38
Speaker
Recently that like yeah, like oh we want to we didn't want to know your availability for like Monday Tuesday Wednesday like mm-hmm And then do you find yourself kind of go? I know but don't you find yourself kind of going? Oh shoot do I have to pick up my kid did I? That's the only mental appointment or something or that's the only thing usually that I have to work around is you know I pick my kid up from school every day but I have that's actually a
00:09:05
Speaker
an hour after school is done. So I have the leeway that I could pick him up early that day. Otherwise, I just have to arrange for somebody else to pick him up if it's unclear when the time is gonna be. But usually, it hasn't been an issue yet. Every time I've had an avail check, I just say, yes, I'm available. And then if I have to miss a meeting or have somebody else pick somebody up or whatever, I just figure it out.
00:09:30
Speaker
Right. Again, one of the benefits of the home studio. Yeah. And working from home and having a flexible day job. Sure. You know, because typically I can either miss or reschedule meetings, which are already very, very few. They know that I'm doing voiceover and as long as I get work done, I don't have to be like at the keyboard all day long typing out code.
00:09:53
Speaker
Well, yeah, you usually have a lot of off-hour stuff that happens anyway, right? Because you're dealing with vendors and stuff like that overseas. No. No. You're not. No. I thought you had something where you're doing something really weird at an odd hour, but... Well, I was working evenings when I was on vacation, quote unquote, in Florida, because I didn't actually take the time off. On vacation. I just shifted my work hours. Yeah. There you go. Maybe that's what I was thinking. Yeah, so that way I could spend time on the beach. Right. Victoria, is your light changing colors?
00:10:23
Speaker
No, but is
Strategies for Bouncing Back
00:10:24
Speaker
it, it's doing something weird on the video. Yes, yes, you turn orange. It's a good shade of orange for you, but just checking. It's her new bronzer. It still sounds a bit like a pumpkin. It has a new bronzer, that's a better answer. Let me see if I can... The color temperature keeps shifting between... Right, it's probably because I'm wearing kind of like a pumpkin color, so maybe that's why it's going, I can't recognize your color lady.
00:10:54
Speaker
Whoa, that was worse. Now I'm blue and greenish. But your sound is blue. You like blue. Yeah, she likes blue. I'm blue, Abadi Abadai. Sorry. Yeah, so struggles and setbacks, they happen all the time. And, you know, it's okay to feel bad about it or let down or whatever, but you got to just not get stuck in that mode of, oh, why me? Everything's going wrong, blah, blah, blah.
00:11:24
Speaker
You know? I'm gonna sell everything. Yeah. Sell it all. Forget this. I'm no good. I can't do this. I'm just gonna sell all the stuff. Sell it. I'm just gonna give it away. Yeah, right? And I'm gonna do something else. Yeah. Yeah. No, don't do that. You know? I can honestly say that's not crossed my mind for that reason. Selling things, yes, but not for to give it up. I don't know if I ever had a, I'm gonna quit this.
00:11:53
Speaker
maybe a fleeting moment early on when I had a particularly bad day. But then all it takes is just listening to a couple of ads or some other things. You're like, I can do that. Yeah, man, there's a lot of really terrible ads on the radio. Our job is so easy.
00:12:10
Speaker
I was always told I had a nice voice. Maybe all I gotta do is take a drive and listen to the radio and hear the local ads. Right? That half of them are done by the people being advertised and not even Airtown would like buy the client. Yeah, not good. There's a couple in particular that.
00:12:30
Speaker
make me want to punch myself in the face. I feel that way. I want to punch them in the face about authors who audio, you know, they narrate their own audio book. I feel like if they just get some training, it would be better. But unless it's a celebrity, even then, even then. I mean, I absolutely loved listening to an audio book. I'll leave that. It's just I had to speed it up. The woman spoke so slowly.
00:12:59
Speaker
when she was talking about her life. I'm like, okay, I can't. I want to hear about your life, but like, at like two and a half times the speed, at least. But yeah, I think- That's how I consume most media. And some people that do their own are so supernatural. I listened to Sebastian Bach's book, and he- Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, he's an entertainer. He narrated his own.
00:13:24
Speaker
He's phenomenal. He's so real, but it's so out there as a narrator. I enjoyed it because it was not the norm. Yeah. Well, he's also got vocal ability, right? He's a singer. And he likes to hear himself talk.
00:13:44
Speaker
That's always helpful. As long as you like to hear him talk. Right? Exactly. And you purchased his e-book, so there you go. I did, I did. I got the one by Billy Idol, and honestly, I grew up listening to that man, had all the posters, had all the things. I was very much Billy Idol, everything. And I got his book. I haven't finished it yet.
00:14:05
Speaker
I don't, it's just maybe, I don't know, and I love a good English accent and he's got that going for him, but he just, it doesn't speak to me, maybe. That's what it is. American English right here. But I really wanted to hear his story, but it just felt so contrived. It didn't feel
00:14:25
Speaker
authentic. And it could be that somebody did the ghost writing for it, right? So he was reading somebody else's words. He might have played with it a little bit in terms of trying to make it in his voice, but literally when it's about you and it doesn't sound like it's authentic, that's a problem.
00:14:41
Speaker
That's a big problem. Well, and not everybody writes the same way that they speak. True. So if I'm writing something for me that I'm going to speak, I write it in a way that it's going to sound right when I speak. But if I were writing something for you, it wouldn't be the same. Or if I was writing something that was intended to be consumed by somebody else reading it, the phrasing might be different. And so then if I go back later and read it, it may not sound as good.
00:15:10
Speaker
When you write scripts, do you write them in a conversational tone? Depends on the script. Knowing how most copy we get, it's not written conversational. It's almost static. It's just very harsh. The current trend is conversational reading. Would you write a script conversational if that's what it took? Or would you leave that up to the artist?
00:15:39
Speaker
I might kind of split the difference a little bit. Just to make it easier on the... Yeah. And I'm not going to write something and hand it off to somebody to narrate and not have read it out loud myself before. That's exactly what I say. You can tell when they haven't read it aloud. Whoever wrote the script, you can tell because words don't... They don't sound right together. They don't.
00:16:06
Speaker
And you can tell when they haven't read it at all before they send it. With all the spelling mistakes, you're like, did you really want to say lean it or learn it? Yes, did you mean to say learning instead of leaning? Right, exactly. But weird that we came up with the same example.
Handling Rejection in Business
00:16:24
Speaker
I wonder why. Yeah. Did we open the podcast without? Maybe. I don't know. Did we? No, it was not recorded. That's probably a good thing.
00:16:36
Speaker
That's true. Okay. What's another setback you got there, Victoria? Another setback? Other than getting excited about a job, maybe when you're sending out all those marketing pieces or if you're looking for a new agent and then that's crickets. That can really pull away with your head for a little bit or for a long while, like why didn't they?
00:17:01
Speaker
and then you're going to see on somebody's social media post, I signed with ex-agent. You're like, hmm. They didn't even respond to me. I didn't even get a no. I just went into the black hole of nothingness. You have to, again, look at that like, well, it wasn't the right time for me or my voice rather than,
00:17:26
Speaker
and be happy for the other person. And so much as you're like, dang it. Do you put them on a back burner? Do you put them on a back burner to follow up with? Well, so if you don't hear back from an agent or if they say, you know, try back later or whatever. Sure. Six months at the earliest. The earlier is even better. Yeah. That's pretty standard. Like if you don't want to follow up more earlier than six months. Sure. Some of these auto-replies are completely devoid of humanity.
00:17:56
Speaker
So, you know, sometimes it's better if you just didn't send anything back. That would have been nicer. That would have been the nicer approach. Rather than saying, well, our roster is very competitive. And you don't... Due to our competitive roster. I'm like, excuse me? We do not have a place for you at this time. Oh, so you're telling me I suck.
00:18:16
Speaker
Yeah, awesome. Thanks. Yes. Even though it's a generic response. Because you don't have to send anything back and I might already tell myself that I suck because nobody's getting back to me. See? Why just, you know, just put salt in that wound, but thank you. It's just a rude reply. We don't... Yes, we'd like to hear something. I don't think it's intended to be that way, but it can feel that way, sure.
00:18:38
Speaker
I mean, even in the corporate world or looking for a regular day job sort of thing, and sometimes when you hear nothing, it's better than getting the standard. Due to the high volume of candidates, we've decided not to move forward with your application. Thank you for your interest in Company X. We will not be moving forward at this time. Dear, state your name.
00:19:01
Speaker
Yeah, I love that one. It's just a parentheses. Thanks. Here's something for new newer people who just, you know, they start the journey, which is more of the work than the actual recording of putting together that list contacts, whether it's production companies or if they feel they're ready agents.
Following Up with Production Companies
00:19:23
Speaker
You get a reply from a production company or one of these smaller, um, just a company that houses a roster and they say, Hey, we loved your stuff. Here's your, we're going to put you on our roster and then you never hear from them again.
00:19:40
Speaker
I mean, obviously, they're filling a roster. They've got more than one person. What's, in your opinion, what's a suggestion for someone who's following up on that? Do you follow up on that? Do you treat that as the agent and wait for them to find that job for that person? I think it depends on what it is. If it's just a talent roster,
00:20:02
Speaker
I probably wouldn't even bother. If it's a production company, I might shoot them an email quarterly or a couple times a year and just say, you know, whatever. If I've got a new demo to share with them or you want it to, you want there to be a reason you're reaching out, not just a, he got anything for me yet, but you know.
00:20:22
Speaker
or you send an updated demo, you can reach out that way too, or if you've booked something. Didn't I say that? If you have a new demo? I thought I did. Maybe I did. I don't know. I'm sure I wasn't paying attention. Yeah, neither was I, clearly. But yeah, if you have a reason to reach out, you got a new demo or you just booked some big national thing and you think it's cool and you want them to know like, hey, check this thing out or you win an award.
00:20:46
Speaker
You know, something that gives you a reason to reach out to them. Then reach out to them and become top of mind again. But if you're booking regularly with them, then it doesn't matter. No, no, no. It's certainly not daily. If you're doing cold email outreach, do not send your follow-up the next day after your initial contact. Hey, I didn't hear from you. Why? Don't even send it the same week.
00:21:16
Speaker
Desperado. Couple weeks later, maybe. And also, you really shouldn't be trying to book a job from cold email. You're trying to start a conversation. You're trying to introduce yourself and shake hands. And show your professional. Get to the table to start having a conversation. Not even, you know, yeah. Hey, hire me for XYZ, because I'm awesome. Couple exceptions, I suppose, like radio imaging. Obviously, that's why you're contacting people.
00:21:44
Speaker
you want to be their new imaging voice, you're just telling them, hey, I do XYZ, I do this format, I do that, blah, blah, blah. If you're looking for somebody, I'm your guy or your gal, right? Yeah. And hopefully they are looking, because if they're not, then it doesn't matter. Right. True. Because in imaging, oftentimes you got to wait for somebody to die to get a job.
00:22:07
Speaker
But if you're on someone's roster and you just don't hear back or something doesn't come through, it doesn't really mean anything if you might hear from them later. So I'm on various rosters around the globe and one in Spain, I had been part of their roster that I knew of, I signed up, did all the things, and then everything was radio silent for at least a year plus, and then I booked a job with them.
00:22:37
Speaker
out of nowhere. Is that the one you sent to me? Yes. I've gotten a couple things from them and it's always like, we have this job, are you interested in being included?
00:22:47
Speaker
Yes, I had that too and they asked for my recording and then they're gone. They do actually book people and I know people that have booked and I've booked myself, but again, it was that whole amount of time that went from that first conversation that we had to actually booking a project.
Preparing for Opportunities
00:23:07
Speaker
Since then, I've had another, they've reached out again, asked what my availability was and
00:23:13
Speaker
and then it was quiet again. But that's the nature of the business because everything's moving. They're not thinking about the talent when it comes to production. They're thinking of their production timeline and how they can make this quickly work. So I don't want to be that person that slows down whatever process they're working on. If they want me, they know where to find me.
00:23:37
Speaker
And yes, just like we'll point it out, reaching out with a new demo or an award-winning demo, Al, that's a good reason to reach out. Like, hey. It is. Especially if it's a talent roster or a production company and
00:23:52
Speaker
the demo that's new or updated is what they have on file because they need to update it anyway so that they can share it with their clients and whatever. A lot of these rosters are huge and so you may never hear anything or very rarely hear something because their clients are going through the roster and listening to stuff based on your name or whatever order they're going through stuff. I'm at the end of every list because both my first and last name are towards the end.
00:24:20
Speaker
I've seen myself at the end of the list because they're doing it by first name. Your end or middle? Yeah, yeah. Al's beginning or middle. Right? Yes.
00:24:34
Speaker
And then maybe they do it by age and then maybe you're cut out and, you know, whatever. Who knows? There's lots of different reasons you never hear anything. There is. There is. So all you can really do is control the parts that you can control, right? Just make sure that your training is on point and you can deliver a performance consistently every time. Make sure you're ready for when that call does come.
00:24:57
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you certainly shouldn't be submitting to rosters or agents before you're ready, because you don't usually get a second chance to make that impression. Or, you know, if your first impression is not good, they'll remember that probably even more than if your first impression is really good, right? Because if it's really good, they're going to sign you probably. If it's not, they'll remember you, because how was that guy that had the chicken in the background on his demo? You remember that guy?
00:25:27
Speaker
I mean, seriously, I worked as a producer on a project and we signed in like the entire cast, right? Doing all the fun PA work. And there are two actors that stood out as people that I never want to work with ever again. Based on their attitude, how they walked in there, and their expectations during the whole thing.
00:25:51
Speaker
Interesting. I don't want you on set ever again. And that can be the same thing if you're pestering somebody by email. Yeah. But I heard back from you. Why am I not booking anything? Why am I not on your roster? How come you never responded to my inquiry when I tried to join your agency? All these things are going to piss people off and they're not going to want to work with you. So, you know, don't set yourself back.
00:26:16
Speaker
Man, you're just giving out nuggets tonight. Well, nuggets, I say. Yeah, well. There you go. One of these days, we'll have a whole bar. Not just a little piece. It's the VO bar. What do you mean? Oh, well, then we're set. That's right. Is it gilded in gold? It could be. Gold. It could be. I know people that have taken care of the graphics.
00:26:41
Speaker
Yeah. The VO Gold Bar. I don't think it's that important. So what advice do you have if you're experiencing setbacks and in a funk? What would you do? Go for a bike ride. Do something else that's not VO related. Just get away from it. Take a break. Yeah, that's a good one. Or record a podcast episode. Create your own work.
00:27:01
Speaker
episode and complain about being about the setback. There you go. Yes, setback. It doesn't have to be a podcast episode, but commiserating with somebody, complaining about whatever helps because everybody's got to vent every once in a while. But just getting it in your head and realizing that you're not the only one. Yeah. There's tons of people, yes, at any level.
00:27:28
Speaker
I mean, we heard the speaker, the gentleman who, you know, he was in his sixties or he was in seventies and he says he was busy up until a certain age. And then all of a sudden the jobs are fewer and fewer. And now he's living with the fact that that's what his voice future is.
00:27:50
Speaker
It's going to be a point where there's less and less jobs for him. That's a harsh reality. You know, unless you're lucky enough to become a voice of whatever the next Simpsons is.
Aging and Staying Relevant in Voiceover
00:28:02
Speaker
Yes. And then you're set for 30 years plus and, you know, making million dollars. That would be amazing to be able to do something when I'm in my 80s.
00:28:14
Speaker
Well, so you can do the voice now. I could. You just grow into it naturally. Eventually this will just be my natural voice. There you go. And I'll be selling oil of ole. And you could look younger too. You look like me. Maybe she's born with it. Maybe it's Maybelline. That's it.
00:28:45
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that'd be great. I think you need to be a little bit more announcery, though, because it should be back by then. Ah. That's true. So if you're going to prepare the future voice, you have to go into the future performance style, too. OK. Maybe it's me. I can't. I can't even look at my screen, because I can see you guys while we're doing this, and it's making me laugh. So we're done. It's all good. But yeah, you get the point.
00:29:14
Speaker
but i hope i'm not getting sick i've got i don't know if you can tell i got a there's an extra there's an extra deep something you know today right in a world very yeah it's not even as well it was it was worse earlier today it was very but yeah there's some rumbly going on i hope i'm not getting sick because that is definitely a setback
00:29:35
Speaker
Exactly. Well, it's also a season and the sneezing in most places because it's April and May with...
00:29:45
Speaker
the different pollens and things like that out there? Well, I am fortunate to say that I don't have any significant allergies. I was tested for things a couple of years back and the only thing that came back was some kind of like swamp grass or something. Whatever that is.
00:30:07
Speaker
Those are things that can develop later in life, though. I mean, you've had it tested recently, so that's an exception. And it would be horrible because I have like 200 trees on my property, all different species. Not good. So when pollen comes around, you go out in the morning and the car is yellow. Yeah. Yeah, it's gross. I've had that in the South.
00:30:30
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But I do know, yeah, that's an issue for people in Texas. Basically, everybody in Texas has allergies. The pollen is just so strong. We have very dusty times here because of the desert and the desert southwest. Not good. Not a fan. Not awesome. Bad air quality. No, wherever you are, prepare. Just take care of yourself. That'll avoid a portion of your setbacks right there. If you can't record,
00:30:59
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That's a setback. I see, I prepare myself by living in a physical and mental bubble, so nothing gets to me ever, mentally or physically. It's a booth. It's not a bubble, it's a booth. That's what it is. But booth boy doesn't have quite the same ring to it. Did he say nothing gets to him? You're not getting to me! I don't know. Wait, wait.
00:31:29
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Oh my. You saying nothing gets to you is like me saying nothing gets to me. So totally accurate. Yes. Cause although I say it, I don't mean it. Setbacks happen. Deal with it. They do. I try to meditate and find a different outlet, go bike riding, watch a really,
00:31:56
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bad movie, and then I really feel better about myself.
Embracing Setbacks as Growth
00:31:59
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Like, wow, at least I didn't do that. I'm not that guy. Just realize you're not the only one, and you'll get through it. Don't worry. It can always be worse. Oh, the words of wisdom. We have so many folks. Wait till you hear all the stuff we have.