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Chris Cheney Pt 2
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This week we have the hilarious Chris Cheney back on the podcast. However this week we switch it up, Chris comes on to talk about the first shoe he design and released. We also talk about linkedin profiles and people hitting you up out of the blue. We also talk about working in streetwear and how Chris jumps into his creative process. It is a fun episode so check it out and leave a review and hit that subscribe button!
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Chris Chaney's First Shoe Design
00:00:10
Speaker
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to my first kicks. This is episode 42. Ify, we had a sit down chat with a former guest and we switched it up this week.
00:00:25
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, I like I like you the spin you kind of took on it and like Switched it up on everyone in a big way, you know, yeah We had we have on by the I mean because you're looking at your reading the read the read the name already clicked on the episode, you know
00:00:44
Speaker
Chris Cheney comes and joins us on this episode and instead of asking him what's his first kicks, we asked him what's the first shoe that he designed and got made and actually got put out.
00:00:59
Speaker
It's
Potential Guests in Design
00:01:00
Speaker
dope. It's a nice spin on it. And you got me thinking, because there are some people in the design world that I'd love to just have jump on so we could talk to them. You know, I got a homie, Michael Nerlino. He like deconstructs kicks and put new fabrics on it. And I actually have some fabrics I'm going to send them to probably do with some forces or something just to see what he cooks up with it.
00:01:25
Speaker
So I'd love to just talk about him and his process and him being out in Portland, the sneaker capital and how that goes for him. So that's, yeah, you're in for a good one, but man, outside of that.
Sneaker Wins and Losses
00:01:42
Speaker
It's been a week, has it? It's been a week. It's been a week. It's been a week, man. Yeah, we both got really lucky. I mean, last week, you know, as you all were listening, just iffy, just being upset that I won a pair of sneakers.
00:01:59
Speaker
When you say it that way, you make me look bad, but really, it is your fault. The Salt Squad name rings true last week. Oh, man. Well, I'll let you know, you know, the deeper we get into this conversation, we'll have proof.
00:02:15
Speaker
how lucky that you are, and it is something that is specifically you. We're gonna get into that, but first we'll just talk about the kicks, but yeah, you finally unbox those clean-ass off-whites. And so did you know what lot you were getting?
Sneaker Unboxing Anticipation
00:02:32
Speaker
Okay. So people were figuring out what lots they were, and I saw it on Twitter by accident. Okay, so you didn't know, but you knew because they kind of figured it out.
00:02:43
Speaker
Right. You were trying to you were trying to go into it and be surprised, right? Yes. And no, I was kind of I think I think I rather I mean, I'm surprises are cool. I'm not this but I'm not a person that doesn't enjoy surprises. Like, you know, like if somebody shows up and I'm like, oh, snap, like that's dope. But I wanted to know ahead of time if I got a dope color.
00:03:07
Speaker
for these since it's so random. And I mean, I was fine with it not knowing, but there was people on Twitter that figured out that like, oh, you've just, I mean, if you know a little bit about computers like I do, I was able to figure out like, what's the name file, the file name of the picture that was shown. And then you just look, look up the style code that's in the picture of the file name of the picture. And, and that was it. I found out what color I was getting, what lot I was getting. And it was,
00:03:37
Speaker
I knew, but I wanted to also, like, I mean, I hit you up. I was like, yo, let's FaceTime. I wanted to open it up in front of you.
Sneaker Resale Market Strategies
00:03:45
Speaker
But you. Yeah, I was busy. I, you know, I and also I didn't need to see that.
00:03:54
Speaker
Yeah. No, I was so bummed. I wanted to see you crack it open, but it just was the busy. It's been deadlines after deadlines, but I think I'm knock on wood. I think I'm hitting them and I'm doing pretty well on them. Real excited. Uh, but I'm curious to how they're going to market these off white dunks on
00:04:15
Speaker
Okay, I see you just got all the different lots Yeah, oh man. Yeah, I mean like I was looking up like that. So Once these released obviously the numbers the resale numbers were crazy, right? Yeah, two grand each for each lot. Yeah, and then that one day where like a ton of
00:04:37
Speaker
people were hitting. Do you know which lot that was? The which one for what? Which which lot was the one that everyone were hidden or was it just various lots like that day that just dropped a ton of them. And so like everybody was getting because like people were telling people were saying online that like oh
00:04:55
Speaker
these days, these lots were coming out. But if I ended up, because if they were doing in sequence for those two weeks, like two pairs each or three pairs each, this still wouldn't be enough. So that one day, the day before Thursday, whatever that Thursday I hit on, whatever, they just dropped a ton of pairs. And then I looked online and somebody said there was 140,000 pairs that got put up.
00:05:21
Speaker
2013 pair, 113,000 pairs, something like that. And then that was the, like, I guess it just tanked the number from two grand per pair to $400. So yeah, I'm waiting for it. I feel like we have another dip in our future. Um, and I'm waiting for it.
00:05:40
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, do you, or is there like a, is there one that you've seen that you're just like? No, I just want any of them. Honestly, at this point, any of them, because like even before these were dropping, I was going to actually buy the original, uh, off white ducks before they, um, before they like re-released them. And I was, I was on the fence cause they were in that like three, 400 range. And now it's like, it's like, okay.
00:06:10
Speaker
Well, we'll see. It's such a pain. We'll see once we get advertisers. It's just the fluctuation of sneakers, man. How like it'll dip and then if you don't jump on it, everyone will just try and go for like basically there's a million of me's right now who are like, okay, what's the, I was trying to get this one. What's the cheapest version out of all this? And so I think if I hold either they're going to dip again or you know,
00:06:41
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, they got a dip again, but I mean, I don't see them going up. But you were able to cop something this week.
Persistence in Sneaker Purchases
00:06:51
Speaker
Yeah, something I specifically took an L on, too. And that was the NMDs Hoos, which were the Chalkwhites. And yeah, I took a major L on them.
00:07:10
Speaker
And yeah, your homie came through. So it was real dope. And what's dope is that it's in different colors for each shoot. I didn't even notice that until when you sent me that picture, I was just like, oh, that's dope. The souls are different colors. That's pretty sick. Yeah. So very, very happy. It just reminds me when I was going to go to my first complex comm to try and get the black NERDs.
00:07:41
Speaker
That was a journey. Those are nothing. But yeah, now I'm very happy. So I came up on that, but then yeah, on top of that, I think I've mentioned, yeah, last week, you know, I got the PS5 and I wanted to finish it because of completion. So I wanted the Xbox and you, you had, we had the master chief halo Xbox is dropping and, um, and,
00:08:08
Speaker
That, I took big L's on that. It was right before the episode you're actually about to hear. I was taking some big L's, not really getting anything and I mentioned it. And then Haas was like, well, I'll try with you. And cause they were also dropping just the regular Xbox One X. And I was like, all right, man, we'll see.
00:08:31
Speaker
And when I say that this man was still struggling to get one in my cart, got it in his cart and was able to purchase it, easy. Hear me when I say, this man has superhuman purchase luck. And if you're mad about him getting a drop that you couldn't get,
00:08:53
Speaker
It definitely, uh, definitely you're right. It's his fault. I mean, it's persistence. Cause like, I feel like a lot of people just be like, okay, I'm gonna just give up. But once that site tells me no, like, like for sure, no, then I'll stop. Like, it's like, like I'm talking about like, I not, and I'll be like,
00:09:13
Speaker
And this is probably just from trying to cop a Supreme box. Logosy for so many years and still not being able to get them. But it's just that I until it says sold out for sure, for sure. Like, I don't see the button come back up. I'm going to keep trying. So what else? What's up? That's that's where all there is to it, to be honest. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Now, now I'm good. I'm feeling good. You know, I'm feeling very
00:09:46
Speaker
Happy and ready to have it all. I'm not going to. I'm not even going to be thinking of anything. I have no, no clues. No, no, no, no resentment. No, nothing. No. Yeah. No, not that I am pleased for now until the, until the next, until the Gundams, we'll see what happens until the next. We get a Steven a style iffy on the intro. We'll.
00:10:08
Speaker
Very, very happy and ready.
00:10:17
Speaker
I haven't been this mad in my life. My entire life, the audacity, the unmitigated gall. I hate Hassan like I hate LeBron. This is unbelievable.
00:10:37
Speaker
I'm going back to Adidas. Oh, my gosh. All right. Well, we do have to get out of here because this is a long episode. You're in for a real treat. So hit them with them deets.
Shoutouts and Team Expansion
00:10:48
Speaker
Yeah. Make sure you follow Chris Chaney on all social medias at Not That Chaney, which is spelled N-O-T-T-H-A-T-C-H-E-N-E-Y. And also, it's the same thing for his website. Check out his stuff. He has really...
00:11:05
Speaker
He works for Alife, so he works on their products. His website is dope as hell. It's a great inspiration if you were looking for streetwear inspiration. I was very lucky to have him on. Where can they find you with me?
00:11:24
Speaker
You know what it is. If you want to wait on Twitter and Instagram, if D's on Twitch, come see your boy. Yeah, sometimes we play together. Yeah, I know. You maybe take a little bit of that salty. You sound like I diss you. Like sometimes we play together. No, no, no. Sometimes it's mostly me because I just jump on. I jump on a game and then I jump on. That's who.
00:11:46
Speaker
I know, especially now you playing 2K with Eddie, so I don't know if I ever see you gaming with me. You got a squad now. You're getting shout outs on the timeline. It totally kicks me out. But yeah, you can follow me on all social medias at who is Haas, follow the podcast at My First Kicks Pod. Don't forget to leave a review. Leave a review. Five stars, and tell us your My First Kicks.
00:12:13
Speaker
or give us a story at myfirstkickspod.gmail.com. And yeah, share this podcast with all your peoples. And we are also still looking for a producer. I don't think we've mentioned that for a while now, but yes, please. Yeah, please. Hop on. Let's do it. Let's boogie. All right. Yeah, let's jump into it. Yeah, yeah. Now we bring to you Chris Chaney.
Chris Chaney's Puma Design
00:12:55
Speaker
Hey, Chris, welcome back to the podcast. What's up, boss? How are you? What's up, man? Your first episode was amazing. So when we had the opportunity to bring you back, I asked if you know, let's get Chris back. Yeah. And I was like, OK, I haven't met Chris, so I'm excited. It's like the first time for me. Yeah, very nice to meet you, if you, by the way.
00:13:18
Speaker
Oh yeah, no. So, you know, happy to connect fellow comic sneakerhead. You know, we're going to get Haas and Haas keep being like, I'm thinking about, you know, thinking about getting up on that stage. And why are you? Haas is the weird dude who's like chilling with all the comics, but you're like, where are you getting up? And he's like, get up.
00:13:39
Speaker
You just brought up a story that I saw I was I was doing I was rolling with will will miles to do his spots and I was sitting in the car with him and Julia his wife shout out to Julia and She turns to me and that we've met before and she turns to me goes are you a comic and I just go I
00:13:58
Speaker
I was like, no, no, no, no, I'm just chill. I don't do it. The weirdest part is when you're like with comics, you go, I'm chilling. Everyone's like, do you buy a ticket? Oh, that's my life. That's my life. I just hate I'm just surrounded by comics. I mean, it's the funniest way to live. That's for sure. Oh, yeah. Possibly getting roasted. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So write a passage.
00:14:24
Speaker
Uh, but yeah, you know, first, first episode you came on, talked about your first kicks, but we're going to switch it up like we did for your boy Lawrence's episode. We switched it up for him. I'm going to switch it up for you. Okay. And this week we're going to talk about what's that first shoe you were able to design and get produced.
00:14:44
Speaker
Yeah, which that is actually a very important thing to point out is like get made because you can work somewhere for a long time and then nothing that you do can get through. So I was actually lucky enough to do a Puma suede mid for a life.
00:15:04
Speaker
So that was that was my that was I got very lucky. It was like 2014. I also did a R98.
Designs and Collaboration
00:15:13
Speaker
Oh, R698. One of them fucking trinonic ones. Where the fuck it was. And yeah, so it was it was it's a group experience, at least when you work with these brands. So it was like a dude, a brand manager, this dude, Jesse, who didn't know how to do shit in Illustrator. And there was this dude, Manny, who was like kind of like the
00:15:35
Speaker
Third key, I guess, at the store. I don't I don't want to say manager because that's like that was kind of Chris Vidal, I guess. Yeah. Very weird, very weird situation. But it was basically me and guys who worked at the brain who didn't know how to do shit with me and my ability in front of the computer. And like we were all tossing shit back and forth. So, I mean, I got files like different versions of shit didn't come out with some. We didn't even send a Puma or like, fuck that shit. So that was my first one. First two really was a.
00:16:01
Speaker
r 8 9 0 or r 9 8 0 where the fuck that model is and then the puma suede mid is it the one with the a life printed all over it that joint yeah this there's a pattern that a life uses called the stuck up pattern which we don't really use it anymore but it looks like stickers on top of each other and shit yeah yeah so that's the puma suede mid and then the other one is just like a color i think it has the uh
00:16:26
Speaker
pattern on the soul. You know, I have, I have these bro, like right around the corner. I should've went grab them. I got the, yeah, yeah. I'm looking at it. Boom. Got it. Whoo. All right. And I got the product details from goat. Thanks. Shout out to go. We either pull me from stock X or go. So ready to hear about yourself, Chris. Yeah.
00:16:47
Speaker
NYC-based streetwear and skatewear brand A-Life teamed up with Puma to produce a special edition of the classic Puma Suede Mid. The A-Life stuck up Suede Mid sneaker features a luxurious black suede and mesh constructed upper decorated with an all over print branded with a subtle A-Life logo pattern. Dual brand logos on the tongue, gold detailing and a contrasting white sole complete the look of this collaboration.
00:17:13
Speaker
Yeah, that's the one baby. That's it. Yeah. I love it. Uh, just, you know, this is my first time seeing it, but I love a clean, like I like simple clean and also like, I really do enjoy like a, a subtle pattern. Like I like the black on black. And so, you know,
00:17:29
Speaker
And then black and gold, you know, I'm from LA, but my mom's side is from New Orleans. And I grew up in LA before we had a team. So I'm a Saints fan. So I love, I love a black and gold. So there you go, baby. That's what's up. Oh yeah. I mean, I remember when these came out and I loved them. I just wasn't able to get a pair. I think they did the white one, right? You guys did a white one too.
00:17:53
Speaker
we did out of that there was a silver one it was a chrome silver one so yeah so out of that capsule uh
Collaborative Processes in Design
00:18:00
Speaker
it was interesting because a lot of it there was different parts to it but like one part of it was it was based around the store so i don't know if you guys remember the old store oh by the way rest in peace that was a good that was
00:18:12
Speaker
Rest in peace. I mean, we talked about my first encounter, I think, on the episode of going to A-Life, A-Rivinson Club. Oh yeah, Kool-Aid too, you told you to fuck it off, right? He kind of looked at markers, because I was big into graffiti at the time. And he was just like, you want those? Oh, no, you don't want those. And I was just like, yeah. Have you ever been to the store before? No, I haven't.
00:18:37
Speaker
Have you been to New York before? Oh yeah, I love New York. So on top of stand up, I'm an improv guy. So I used to come out for DCM. And the best thing of being the only stand up in your group is you get strong arms stand up set out of any festival that wants to book your group. Because definitely they liked my group more than they liked me.
00:18:56
Speaker
Stand up, it's just like. So you're like, well, I'm coming to town. They're like, all right, we'll give you a spot. And I'm like, bet. That's what I like. Because, you know, especially since it's only one, so they only have to give up one spot. Like, if we were all standups, they'd probably be like, nah, fuck y'all. But since it's the only one, they're like, all right, we'll give you a spot. But yeah, so I love coming to New York. And I love coming out. And what sucks for me is for anybody who isn't familiar with stand up,
00:19:27
Speaker
places in the world or if in the US, I say, you can be like, yo, come in, you know, into town from L.A., you know, boom, and you'll get up New York. You got to be vetted because New York is a stand up town. And also, so many people have come before me and ruined it, which, you know, like literally, and I don't even say this to Brent because I love my city, but everybody is like,
00:19:49
Speaker
oh, you don't seem like a LA standup. And I was like, oh, it's because I'm not doing 50 million act outs to make sure I get a sitcom. It's like, I tell jokes. Like, I'm a good actor, but I do the acting when it's acting time. And when I do standup, I want to tell jokes. And so, but, so you got to go out and get vetted. So like, so like, usually what I'll do is I'll come out, cause New York's a fun city anyway, come out, go to all the shows, support, meet all everyone running the shows. And then they're like, all right, when you come back, I'm gonna put you on. I did that.
00:20:19
Speaker
December of 2019. Do that trip all over again.
00:20:30
Speaker
That's right. They definitely don't remember you. No, they had no idea. Yeah, I was so ready. This is right, though, so I can sort of explain to you the store and also explain some of the shoe concept. So there was two sides of the store. There was a clothing side and a shoe side. The shoe side being a life riveting club and the left side being just a life to what you probably know it as, which is the clothing.
00:20:53
Speaker
You were talking about the chrome one when you walked in on the left side There was a welcome on the glass door that I believe Espo did and that's the that's supposed to reflect the chrome of the sneaker and Then the inside cork were actually the little seats we had on the a life side that you would sit on while your friends I whoever because you always went with a group it was never you know yourself you were kind of weird I
00:21:19
Speaker
Which is like who I was bullying you probably honestly I was not alone Friends yeah, yeah, he just did not like you guys then um, but yeah, so do you remember the little cork thing she would sit on? Yeah, of course Yeah, that was the insole so that insole had the cork thing But basically each of those items were based off things happening in the store
00:21:40
Speaker
That's, I mean, it's sick. Like the shoe is sick. I can't like it. And I'm looking at them all because I didn't see, I've never seen the R six nine eight and R six nine eight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so like, I, I love that. That my favorite thing was that the a life sticker. Cause like, I would always go around the city and you'd see it. You'd see that. And then the Iraq sticker and they're using the same typefaces anyway. So I would just be like, I'd look and I'd be like, Oh man, that's sick. And then you'd see like,
00:22:10
Speaker
Cause there was that one a life sticker where I use this pattern and you can, and you put it and it looks like it was like you, and I would always see it, especially down around Soho people were just putting it on the behind of like lights and stuff like that. So just like to me, to me. And because I am a fan of a life, like that is iconic. This pattern is iconic. So you, you being able to, to use the pattern is dope as hell.
00:22:35
Speaker
I mean, I'll I'll give you guys a little insight. So like, you know, I mean, I think I forget on or off my I forget if I told you I was a fan of the brand before I started working for him. I remember when they gave me the pattern to use, I like freaked out. I was like, is this the pattern? They're like, what else would it be? I'm like, no, no, because that's the real shit right here. This is the joint. And they're like, yeah, do you just put it on the shoe? And I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I'm going to put it on the shoe.
00:23:04
Speaker
Um, but something else to attach to those sneakers was, um, one time after a show, uh, this dude came up to me, he liked my set or whatever. This is like a bar show.
00:23:15
Speaker
And he was like, yo, man, I really like your set and I like, I like your shoes. I was like, oh, thanks, man. Appreciate you. So like, you know, taking it for a while. He like knew I was in streetwear. This is before I worked at A-Life again, like this time around. And he's like, oh, so like, you know, I told him I work at Echo. I've worked with like Wu Tang, like Rocksmith and I freelance for everybody or whatever. He's like, oh, so if you've worked everywhere, like what do you got?
00:23:38
Speaker
I'm like, oh, you know what, those those Pumas I did for a life are probably on like StockX or goat or something. And bro, I pulled them up. And when they're there, when they're categorized under retail tab. Yeah. Like I'm showing them. This is the best I got. It's like on sale. On sale. And I'm like, I'm like, oh, no, 60. Oh, no. Sixty eight dollars. Oh, no. Oh, no. But they're nice, right? You like them?
00:24:13
Speaker
Oh, show it to Dennis. He was a cool gift. Yo. Oh, my God. That's got a yo. First of all, you've made something pretty dope. And if it's not like imagine it, but like, I don't even know what that would feel like to be like, yo, I made something and I can go look and see how much is worth after I've like made it. Bro, it's not good. It's not pretty much like if you think reading comments is bad. Imagine being a designer, seeing your work on sale. You're like, oh, oh, my God. Yeah.
00:24:26
Speaker
Oh no! Am I still good here?
00:24:41
Speaker
I mean, that's that's that's what's the funniest thing is like, yeah, it is. It is like the thing where, like, if you see it on eBay going for money, like that's tight. But if you see it on under retail, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. I'm like, no, no, no. I mean, like, come on, dogs. Yeah. So, I mean, the unfortunate thing about a life at the moment is that it's it's gotten it's it's lost the respect that I think it deserves. And I'm not even saying that just because I work there. I'm saying that just because like I'm seeing how people move. I mean,
00:25:09
Speaker
When I beast in complex, they posted about the store closing like not only like was I getting phone calls, but I just saw like the overreaction and I'm like, where were you guys every time we put out product? What the fuck is? Yeah. Like what? Yeah.
00:25:24
Speaker
It never made sense to me because like, I mean, even like underground rappers, like, I mean, this is just a weird comparison, but like I've seen like underground, like speaking of like, so MF Doom, you know, passed away last year. Nobody talks about him like mainstream. Like if you're mainstream, you don't know about him. And then all of a sudden, once he passes away, everybody's the biggest fan. And then now they give him a street and you're just like, what was this when he was coming out? You know how that is. You know how it goes.
00:25:53
Speaker
Yeah, they appreciate you when you go on. It is, it is wild because there is like an element where like, especially as a fan, it gets hard seeing people you wish you could have seen them collab with shouting them out where it's like, okay, y'all showing them love, but I would have loved to hear a track with y'all. I would, you know, you know, but I mean, also in, in, in, in their defense, a little bit doom was real slow. He was on Dr. Dre time with drop and stuff. He was like,
00:26:22
Speaker
I remember when we heard that Ghostface track was coming out and we waited a minute and then it finally came out. I was like, with no fan, I'm like, dude, what's going on? We got to get you a PR, dude, man. Yeah, I mean, this dude, he's canceled on me twice, so.
00:26:41
Speaker
Oh, yeah. I mean, but yeah, you know, your time at A-Life and, you know, the stuff that you put out so far. I mean, I got to say my favorite A-Life piece. And I still I don't know if I mentioned this, but it's my favorite A-Life piece. And I want it so goddamn bad. So if anybody listens to this and they can get it for me in a size XL, which is the I Got Rhymes. Is it Rhyme? Lyrics to Go? With the lyrics to Go on the back. A-Life piece, the type called Quest piece. You did mention that.
00:27:09
Speaker
Where did I? I found one somewhere in a small. I mean, what I'm going to do with that. That's why I didn't tell you. I didn't go, yo, I got small for you, not.
00:27:22
Speaker
But if you if you have some like like some backup shirts, because I know so the home, the homie, I won't put them on blast because I hope I'm not, you know, I'm not saying too much. But I know how I got hooked up with Mishka stuff. I got the whole mother lode. And there was stuff that I wasn't even seeing. And they're like, yeah, we'll drop some stuff. And then, like, we'll
00:27:45
Speaker
Like it's almost like they keep it up for a limited time and then it then it'll go away. But it doesn't mean they sold out. It just means it was up. So in the warehouse, they'll have that stuff. So I'll end up with like the like the Dragon Ball Z joint that they like. They like the like you either got it when it came out and it's not there. But then they re-release some of it because they're saying they just pop it up. And that I kind of like. I like when you can like
00:28:12
Speaker
That, to me, I think is such a fun aspect of streetwear, where it's like, you get it if you got it. I remember when I started doing Nerdificent, they could not get why I wanted to do it, except Miles, who will have on, because he knows the culture, so he knew exactly what I was trying to do. But I had a box logo, Nerdificent shirt, hoodie.
00:28:35
Speaker
And I was I was going to put it up, but it was only going to be available for three hours at a time that I announced before time. And after that, you can't get it. And they're like, why? Why are you making merch that your fans can't get? I'm like, because it's the it's the energy behind it, because the fans that, you know, put aside the time to make sure they can get it are going to be happy about it. And I was like, that doesn't mean this won't ever come back. But at the time, the nerd, like the nerd, if the fans will be talking about it.
00:29:03
Speaker
And then it just kind of like felt because like the company we were using, I didn't like the quality. So I ended up like. Putting it up for like a like an hour and taking it off, because I was like, oh, they didn't print them right. Like, like it was just like, it was just like, you know, when you use those like T-shirt brandship, not dropship, it was is it T public? It was T public. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's essentially the red bubble all that. Yeah, exactly. It's like.
00:29:32
Speaker
I was like, no, it needs to be. So I kind of like was like, we'll do the drop because I kind of promised it. But when I got the samples, I was like, not happy. So I was like, I got to find somebody who like does it because it's not it's not hidden like that. Those sites are great for like mugs, random, random accessories, something that like you need a special machine for that. It's just that like clothing. You might as well just go to a regular factory, honestly. Yeah.
00:29:58
Speaker
I mean, like, yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, not to cut you off, but like you because you talked if you talked about that shirt you put out, but when you had sub pod, you put out these amazing graphic tees.
Streetwear Design Insights
00:30:09
Speaker
Oh, thank you. Yeah. I mean, they were really great and I'm mad that I didn't get to get one. But the the one with all the logos redone as sub pod was always my favorite. And then like that, though, I think and, you know, you you talked about
00:30:27
Speaker
some dude stealing your art with using the logos and how it affects people. Write that art project you did. Oh, yeah. Are you talking about this dude in Australia just straight ripped a logo I did for my friend by hand. She was crazy. No, but I'm talking about the ones where you did each typeface for each brand. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That blog stole mine. Dude, my shit gets stolen all the time, man. This is why I don't put out shit independently that much anymore.
00:30:56
Speaker
I just see the shit the next day somewhere like, I'm like, how the fuck did this dude see? And how much money is he making off this? Because it was way more than me. I see people buying this shit. I'm like, what? You didn't see the OG? My shit's right here.
00:31:11
Speaker
Yeah, I mean this is messed up and but like your your work and you know transcends into what you're doing now too is that like the From from sub pod you put out amazing art and then you know you continue to evolve your what you're doing But I don't understand what I don't get is how do you understand streetwear and like how do you what what what makes you
00:31:36
Speaker
Like go forward with like these designs and and and how do you get like get to where you're where you're at.
00:31:50
Speaker
Kind of that, but also just like your vision because like the hardest thing for me is like, you know, trying to envision what I want. And then, or like the hardest thing for me is to create what I envision. So like, what is your thought process? Because like streetwear, everybody always trying to make a shirt, right? Everybody's trying to make the next box logo. You know what I mean? And so like, how do you take your steps to get to where you want to put out what you want to put out?
00:32:17
Speaker
Well, I think one thing to note that's important in this is that streetwear, although it is sort of like garnered in this idea of fashion, it is more of like a mentality or like a headspace. You know what I mean? Like there's not many types of dudes that care about like who's the creative director of places and what that creative director thinks about other stuff. So before you even start to think about like what something is, it's like more like like why do we give a shit like this? Like why do I have to have a bait towel when I go to the beach?
00:32:44
Speaker
You know what I mean? That's only for like a couple people around, but it's to let them know like, I think like you. You know what I mean? So like when you're engulfed in trying to connect those people, you sort of get entranced in like that just style of stuff. So then everything kind of like just looks like that.
00:33:00
Speaker
Like when I need to do something that's not streetwear, I need to step out and go like, what do these people think? Like give me a couple of people that are like in this space so I could see like what they like and sort of what they make stuff look like so I can get an idea of it. Like always ask for references, you know, it's like.
00:33:16
Speaker
Even like when you were like, yeah, I guess basically like when there's a random person asking me to make a logo, I'm like, OK, I know I'll make a logo, but it's going to be like a box logo. So like, what do you like? Show me what you like. Give me an example and then I'll try to enter your head. So it's just headspace shit. You know, it's like.
00:33:32
Speaker
When I make a shirt, like you were saying, it's like, all right, it's like, I know what you like. If I know what you like, if you in this space, I can just cater to what the generic shit is for that space. And then that's what you do. So you take your idea and you just garner it under the idea of what the idea of streetwear is, I guess. I hate saying culture, by the way. I'm trying to I was trying to avoid saying for the culture the entire time. But I feel like you feel like just
00:33:59
Speaker
But you know what it is? The thing is, it's like it's what the fuck? Fuck your culture. They're just what it's not a cultural thing. It's not. It's like it's way more than that because we don't. A culture is like traditions and shit. You know what I mean? Like this isn't necessarily what a culture is. And then it just just too many cultures. There's so many cultures. We don't need this many cultures. Well, it is funny because you make a good point, Chris. And I think it is the fact that like
00:34:29
Speaker
There are so many facets of like, quote unquote, culture within streetwear that it's hard to say for the culture because you're like, you're like, there are certain quote unquote cultures I'm not trying to claim. So I think you're so right. And it is. And I think it's because we're in this interesting stage where
00:34:51
Speaker
There's an intersection of multiple fandoms and groups into one. My buddy Miles, who I mentioned earlier, we both grew up in LA. Back then, before Kanye and them started wearing Supreme, Supreme was just another skate brand, like chocolate, girl skateboards.
00:35:14
Speaker
In LA, people weren't like, this is the shit I'm gonna rock, you know? It was like, no, it was just like, you chose that. And personally, I was like, to me, Supreme didn't like scream black anyway. Like it was, to me, it was always like chocolate, DGK, Zoo York, like those were like- Oh, you're dirty ghetto kids. Oh yeah, those were the ones. So like, it is funny to see them now be like, we're in the culture and was like, oh no, cause when I was skating, I did not feel that connection coming from Supreme. And maybe that was just-
00:35:43
Speaker
Sorry. No, I was going to say, like, you know, going back to your like Supreme got big in Japan before it got big in the US. Yeah. So it was it was Asian culture that made it to what it so like when you were a Supreme, are you about Asian culture? No.
00:35:58
Speaker
That's why this shit is so weird. You know, like like most recently, the docs, the locks, dipshit shit, they're like, that's for the culture. I'm like, bro, half the people who watch that didn't even know who the fucking who chic looch was. What are you talking about for the culture? I mean, yeah, yeah. On top of that, on top of that. Well, like they can they can they can they've came around and they're like, who's that dude? I've never seen. Yeah, they're like those deep cut dip set members who you were like, who?
00:36:28
Speaker
I mean, the perfect example of this, and it's using the same brand, Supreme put out that Prodigy t-shirt, and how long did that Prodigy t-shirt sit? Like, it was until the end of the season. Because nobody knew, yeah, nobody knew who Prodigy was. I'm like, what are you talking about? And you know what's the craziest thing about that piece specifically? That's the only Supreme piece I've ever wanted, and I'm not paying what the resale is for it now.
00:36:52
Speaker
It's so funny, but once again, that's such a perfect example. I think it is more a perfect example than you think, Haas, because that is another example. Chris, you're saying that's the one you wanted. The one time, because I think all of us in here are kind of like, oh yeah, about Prem, like, we'll cop, but it's not like, we don't believe the hype. And the one that got me was when they did the Akira one.
00:37:19
Speaker
And then I had anime fans are like, they weren't doing enough, but I'm like, no, bro, we're past the bowling shirts. I like my anime references subtle. And if you know what, you know, and I don't need the whole shirt to be the explosion. Like I just like that. You don't need a giant pill on the back.
00:37:35
Speaker
Bro, like just something like, the one I got is the all black shirt and it has, it's when Yamagata dies and he's screaming and then on his shirt in the panel, it says Supreme. And I was like, that's perfect. No, that's perfect.
00:37:51
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I bought, I bought like four pieces, five pieces. Yeah. No, that was a dope drop. The I could align. I was like, okay, this is now y'all are going my language. Y'all can keep the bricks. I, and then, you know, my dumb ass is going to probably buy the Gunpla because that's just my brand, you know, but beyond that, I'm like, what are y'all doing? Like, but they know what they're doing. It's all in the all marketing at this point. It's all for the culture, bro. It's all for the culture.
00:38:19
Speaker
It's all for the weeb skate culture. I guess my question to you, Chris, and, you know, sorry if you covered this on the early episode, but how did you enter the industry?
Entering Streetwear Industry
00:38:29
Speaker
Like, because it's very obvious you've been a fan of it. But how do you go from, like, that step of, like, being a fan to be like, OK, this is I'm a I'm a work in this.
00:38:40
Speaker
Honestly, half of it is luck, and half of it is just timing. So, honestly, it had really nothing to do with my love for sneakers or, you know, I'll say skate. It had nothing to really do with those. It was just more of like, right place, right time. Basically, I interned somewhere, and I think I did go over this, so I'll kind of go over briefly. I interned somewhere in 2010, just because I liked this guy's sort of like,
00:39:09
Speaker
I worked at Reebok at the time. He came and gave a presentation and I was just like enthralled with what the school was saying. So like, I hit him on the side going like, yo, I love your, like, I love the presentation. I love the work that you showed. And I was like, you know, I'm in college right now. I'm interning at Reebok. Can you come to my school and do that? Cause I think you should tell this to everybody.
00:39:26
Speaker
And then after he was like, why don't you intern for me for the summer? And, you know, so I worked there and then I graduate. And then the dude that I one of the dudes that worked at that spot who I met was now at Echo, the Rhino brand. He's like, why don't you come work with me? So that's what it's like. It's like half timing and half whatever. But after I got into that Echo space, that's when Echo got sold to Iconics, which is like a parent brand.
00:39:49
Speaker
And then he started buying with that money he got from my colleagues, all these smaller streetwear brands. And some of the ones I mentioned earlier, including Alife, Rocksmith, Wu-Tang, he bought like half of all these little brands at the time, little to us, they're huge. Like who doesn't know the Wu-Tang W, but as far as, as far as market sales, they're small. You know what I mean? Like even at the time, you know, have you ever heard of Slowbux before? No.
00:40:11
Speaker
Dude, Slowbux is a weird heat maker's Queens brand. Oh, damn. It's just a snail with money coming out the side. And literally, there's a dude named Slow, and there's a dude named Bucks, and they just made this brand called Slowbux. And then there was this manager dude who was also called Soup. I mean, you would know Slow. Slow is like...
00:40:34
Speaker
Slows like a Queens dude and he's like in the rap scene, behind the scenes. Heatmakers, I don't know how much of he's a part of it, but part of the thing was like, they would have like, say Chris Brown was doing a Heatmakers joint, he would come in, they'd throw the fucking snail on him, like a snail shirt, and then they would take a picture, post it on Instagram, and that was their sort of marketing. But it was so...
00:40:55
Speaker
very hyper specific to a certain part of the world. If you went to Queens at the time, like 2014, everyone was wearing slow bucks. They were like a $5 million brand that no one knew about that Alife, Wu-Tang, Rocksmith, they are all doing less than that in sales.
00:41:10
Speaker
So it's just a weird sort of, but yeah, so there's all these like smaller dudes to us are huge, but sales-wise are doing basically nothing that I worked with at that time. So it's like, yeah, I mean, that's how I really got into it though. But it was by way of just asking this dude like, you know, to come to my school to do a speech. That's really how I got into it. Well, I feel like that's, if anything, that's a lesson for anyone listening. Like, Hey, you know, speak up, make them connections. Don't be afraid. You never know what will happen.
00:41:38
Speaker
Yeah, I would say definitely don't be afraid to ask. Yeah. And it's going to be embarrassing sometimes because you're not going to do it well. Like I recently got a LinkedIn DM at first. Guys, it says what time you send it at. It's this kid sent me something at four thirty in the morning.
00:41:58
Speaker
It was like a week after the store, we announced the store closing, which the brand is still very active, guys. We just don't have a shop right now. The kid emailed or LinkedIn mailed me going like, hey, man, I'm so sorry. But like, you know, like, you know, I love a life and I love what you do and I would love to chop it up. And I was like, all right, for 30 a.m. and this dude asked me to chop it up. I'm ignoring this immediately.
00:42:25
Speaker
I know that's there's there's there's there's two two elements of that that I definitely need to get on record for people definitely yeah that either chop it up grab a coffee pick your brain any of that you know be specific what it what are we going to talk about because yeah because I need to call that and the second thing is
00:42:45
Speaker
One thing I've been getting is people will just go to your IMDB and just like hit you up to be your assistant based off of that. So like since I've written on like TV shows, people will be like, hey, I'm into but it's like so obviously just like a blanket
00:43:06
Speaker
email that they just pop in with my name. And I was like, bro, you gotta, you gotta, first off, first tip as a writer, you gotta be able to, if you can't, as a writer, hide the fact that I can immediately tell you're sending this to a bunch of other people, then that's an automatic pass, bro. Like, hit me with weird, deep cut stuff on my IMDb that really didn't have much. It was like, wild.
00:43:34
Speaker
Oh, I got it. I hear it. Look, tell me, watch this. I'm gonna read it. I'm going to obscure the names so that. So my name is blank. I'm a, I'm a.
00:43:51
Speaker
film composer based in New York. I was reading about your upcoming project, Scroll Wheel of Time. Sounds really exciting. I'd love the opportunity to connect, share my portfolio and discuss the possibility of working together or demoing with you. And then it shows like all the stuff that he works on and then is like his music stuff. But I'm like, if you would have looked at that, you would see I'm a writer. I can't.
00:44:15
Speaker
higher composers. I'm not a producer on that. Like, and you know, once again, I fuck with the energy, but it's like, this is so very clearly a copy paste one. And you, you being like, this sounds exciting. Like I wish you would have Googled it so you can know that project is dead in the water. It's never coming out. It ain't, it ain't ever coming out. That shit is cooked. You shouldn't respond to him. Cause I was about to say this, but you shouldn't respond to him. Like, can you produce podcasts?
00:44:45
Speaker
I'll take you on as a podcast producer. We definitely need somebody. Wait, since you read yours, I gotta read mine. And now I reread it real quick. And you know what it is? It's just, all right, I'll read it. And then, okay. Hey, Chris. Again, this was May 22nd at 4 0 6 a.m. So the first thing I'm like, 4 0 6 guy, what are we doing?
00:45:09
Speaker
May 22nd could be a Friday, Saturday, I don't care. Don't send anybody something at 4 a.m. So I'm immediately turned off, like I said. Hey Chris, real quick, I just want to extend some love to you and A-Life. The recent news of the flagship store permanent closing was big. I personally grew up admiring everything about A-Life. In more recent years, I admired the intentionatally, everything A-Life did and was a part of including collaborations for social justice. We did,
00:45:38
Speaker
We were on early. So one of the managing partner, just to pause it, to explain what he's talking about is he's black. And we put like a Maude Arbery. We put a bunch of like prominent names for the title. Yeah. And the proceeds always got kicked back to that. But so that's in particular, what he's talking about. It's like when we would put the black names on a hoodie, seeing you were a designer over there. I just wanted to congratulate you on being part of something so community driven and breaking boundaries in the art world.
00:46:02
Speaker
which at that point I'm like, oh, okay, this is pretty genuine.
Networking Challenges
00:46:06
Speaker
Like, all right, fuck the 4 a.m. Like, you know, this kid's coming with some actual shit or whatever. And then there's a break in it. And he goes, extending some branches, hoping to connect with you and chop it up about the culture. And then immediately I put my phone. I know exactly what turn.
00:46:23
Speaker
He's gonna use the C word on you. He had me going until he got out of the 4 a.m. He had left 4 a.m. behind. But then he wanted to connect and chop it up about the culture. And then immediately I'm like, no, I gotta double down. You're like, new snake, bro. No longer a fan. I'm out of it. I'm not into it. That response should have just said no.
00:46:48
Speaker
You know, it's even funnier. I didn't even see it until like mid-july. I'm not looking at my LinkedIn like that. Like hit me with a DM, bro. I don't know why you think I'm on LinkedIn. This guy's probably like looking like, oh man, maybe Chris hit me up. Maybe Chris hit me up. He's just like, nah, man.
00:47:04
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, man. Well, it's understandable why you're on LinkedIn because you have a real grown ass man job on top of doing comedy. But there is always a while to me when a stand up tries to like connect like be like this person wants to connect with you on LinkedIn. I'm like, who who is booking comics off of LinkedIn? And if and if they are, I don't want to do that show. I don't think.
00:47:34
Speaker
Since I brought the show back to it's crazy. I I'm getting dams from people I'm like, who the fuck did you even look at what the show's about?
00:47:44
Speaker
The credit part of the crisis, they've been on hype beast. You white girl from Oklahoma. Like what the fuck you think you're going to do my show? Get out of here. Yeah, I'm going to talk about the little white box. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Birkenstocks on stage. Yeah. Oh, man. Oh, it's like it's not that a white girl from Oklahoma couldn't do the show, but I looked at your Instagram after I'm like, oh, you don't even know what Supreme is. Yeah.
00:48:06
Speaker
You don't have a, you just got one pair of veins. You've been rocking for five years, girl. She got, she got the fall winter live, laugh, love fit on. She ain't gonna be pulling up in no heat. That is what it is.
00:48:24
Speaker
Ted's, you know, live that for a man. I mean, there should be like a seminar on how people should do these types of DMs. Like there should be a class now or something, or at least a part, like when you, when you go for social media training, the part of this should be like, all right, this is how you randomly DM or something, because everybody does this. I did it bad too. I mean, I look back at some of the DMs I sent people and I'm like, oh boy. Yeah. I also would not have responded to that. Yeah. Oh yeah.
00:48:51
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, since I'm not a big name, and so I have to slide into DMs and ask for... Well, saying that made me feel gross. But go and message people to jump on an episode of the podcast. I always try to keep it like, hey, just check out the podcast. And if you think you would like to be on it, let me know.
00:49:13
Speaker
But I remember I told somebody that I was doing that and they were like, that is such a terrible idea. Why would you do that? Why would you message them on it? No, you could do that. That's allowed. It's allowed. But it's just you got to do it. Not what like this kid did or what that person did to you. You know what I mean? If it's like you can't just be like desperate. Yeah.
00:49:33
Speaker
I can't text. I'm ending all my messages now with, let's chop it up. You want to chop it up about the culture on the pod? No, I don't. I don't ever want to be on your pod. We're going to, we're going to make, we got to make t-shirts now, Chris. Chop it up. Chop it up. Let's chop it up about the culture. Oh my God. Oh my gosh.
00:49:54
Speaker
That yeah, I mean, you know the but working and working in streetwear is always something that I've always wanted to do but I never got a chance I was a big echo fan growing up and so like Yeah, but so like, you know when you told when you jumped on the first time I was enamored I was like yo, I had all this echo and pretty much everybody who grew up did So like yeah, I think it's pretty crazy that like you're you're able to be in these spaces
00:50:24
Speaker
But like what I got this I got a crazy question is for all of us, right? OK, OK, OK. So what does a sneaker what is a sneaker head to you? Where's the sneaker head to me? Well, that definition has changed.
00:50:42
Speaker
And within the more recent years, it's just to me, someone who won't pay resale honestly, because that's like the OG term to me. Yeah. And someone who just like collect sneakers. But these new like Gen X sneakerhead kids who are or the celebrities who are just buying it to like look fly for whatever event it is. They're willing to pay like four hundred dollars for a dunk like this. I don't know what those are, but those are what you're asking about.
00:51:11
Speaker
You're not asking about like what a real sneaker head is because there's three of us having a conversation right now. You're asking what the dude who's paying five grand for whatever sneaker is. You think that's I don't think that's my my definition is definitely not that my definition is definitely not that.
00:51:29
Speaker
Well, if what's yours, then we can go to us. Cause he, I mean, he posed the question. So he had his answer locked and loaded, you know? Yeah. I think my, the, you become a sneaker head when you have multiple apps.
00:51:44
Speaker
multiple lanes Like you when you're going for a sneaker you go the whole night because there's the people who like are like Oh, this is a cool sneaker Especially people I put on and they'll wake up and they'll go on the app and they'll be like, okay But when you are entering multiple raffles, you start, you know peeping around basically your Email is stuffed
00:52:07
Speaker
because it's all these companies that make you sign up for the raffle and then they don't get you in and then they send you all their sales that you don't give a fuck about. Like that's when you officially go in. I'm not gonna say you have to line up for anything because that's hell and I wouldn't put anybody on that. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I can't play with these kids. I will just punch one in the throat and take their shoes. So, so. Yeah, it's old school. Yeah, yeah. It's old school.
00:52:35
Speaker
That's a Boston line up right there.
00:52:39
Speaker
You know, actually, I can I after hearing what you said, OK, I think I can get with that if you want to discord, like exchange and links. Yeah. But I just can't be because I know a couple of people and us maybe off mic because there's some people you might know in similar things or whatever, like that are just dropping money on sneakers just to have. And I'm like, that's not what. Oh, yeah. Hang $4,000 for sneakers, not a sneaker head move. That's just your financially irresponsible.
00:53:06
Speaker
It's like, you know what I mean? Sneakers are, they're made for $30 a piece. And then by the time they get to you, yes, they're maybe like 150 to 210 now, whatever their average price is. But it's, that's what a sneaker costs. It's not paying resale on shit constantly does not make you a sneakerhead. It just makes you a doof. But if I like the way you said it, but like Haas, what do you got, bro?
00:53:28
Speaker
For me, a sneaker head is somebody who just has a passion for sneakers. To me, you don't even necessarily have to buy sneakers. I can see somebody, because my comparison, and the reason why I brought this up is because this question is being asked a lot in this group that me and Ify has talked about that I'm on, a Facebook group, and they keep asking, what do you guys think your sneaker head is? And to me, it's just, you know,
00:53:54
Speaker
As long as you have a passion, you know about the history of sneakers, then you are a sneaker head to me. I feel like we should like, because like you can, my comparison to this is just like, if you can be a car, a car snob, right? And never own a car, but you know everything about cars, you're a car snob. Like,
00:54:12
Speaker
Um, okay. Hold on. All right. I think there's a cool back and forth we can have here because I understand what you're saying, but just because you have a lot of knowledge about something doesn't necessarily make you like the figure for that. It just makes you the nerd about that to me. But I feel like a sneaker head is the nerd term of
Defining a Sneakerhead
00:54:32
Speaker
Like you're not gonna be like, you're a sneaker nerd. You're a sneaker head. Cause you know all about sneakers. Okay. All right. Hold on. Let me try to see where I, cause I want to make sure that the analogies are good. Cause then if you don't get the right analogy, you get caught up on like, that's not it. That wasn't good. And then you started arguing what an analogy is and you're like, okay, can we get back to the car? All right.
00:54:54
Speaker
Well, all right, so you use the example by cars, right? Right. To me, a sneakerhead is more of like a race car driver than someone who just like knows a lot about cars. I think you've got to be able to drive.
00:55:10
Speaker
You know what I mean? And a part of that, I think, might be, and this might be old head shit, so you guys can tell me, but like, if the sneaker doesn't have a crease, like, I don't know. Like, if it's not dead stocked, and it's out, and it's one of the hot ones. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Which dead stock do you mean? Because you have- No, the current, modern use of the term dead stock.
00:55:33
Speaker
Brows on here last time just like killing kids for not knowing what dead stock was if because dead stock is supposed to be the shit that like you said is the shit left over from the actual sale that no one bought it's the dead stock but now kids are using it of shit that just came out no one does any research but see this is what I'm saying it's like these kids don't know how to drive
00:55:54
Speaker
They just know about the shit. Some of these kids know how to make a bot versus how to wear the sneaker properly. You know what I mean? If you get the shoe from a bot and you can't wear it, then what the ... All right, this goes in several million different directions.
00:56:10
Speaker
Yeah. No, I see what you mean because there's a drive. Yeah. There's a, yeah, there's a level of like just owning to own it, especially like someone like responded to something I posted on Insta and then I saw they responded to something I
00:56:27
Speaker
said a while ago when I was asking questions. And the question was, hey, I'm trying to get into sneakers. Where should I start? And I said, you should just buy the shoes that you like. Don't worry about it. Like, don't ask me, like, what's the hot shoes? Don't ask me, like, what's it? But look at shoes. Go open up Nike. Go to, like you said, Foot Locker. And the shoes that you like, I fuck with those. Do that. Build a fit around it.
00:56:55
Speaker
because that's when it really comes because you don't need the way sneakers are dropping so quick nonstop. You will have a pair that speaks to you. You don't have to chase hype. The hype will find you every time and it'll make you mad because it'll be some shit like a Gundam dunk. And you're like, I know all y'all don't fuck with Gundam. I know all y'all don't have these plastic figures in your house like I do.
00:57:16
Speaker
I know you ain't watching all the Gundams, but because you know that I want it, now you want it. That used to make me so mad. I would go on our sneakers and they would announce like a Yeezy or no, I'll never forget. I ain't never forgot. But when the Travis Scott ones got announced, all the sneaker community was like these ugly pass, these whack, these ugly, gross, you can't get your hand on one.
00:57:43
Speaker
I'm like, how did everybody think these were ugly, yet these sold out? And it's because, oh, because y'all saw it was a Travis Scott. So now y'all gotta get it. Y'all like the name so much that y'all buying mochas just cause it looked like it. Get out of here.
00:57:59
Speaker
That's also just good marketing on Nike side. Oh, yeah. Nike, that has been the smartest thing they've done where they're like, OK, y'all like the hype suits, so we'll do a colorway similar so that people can be like, it's like that Cat Williams joke about the Chrysler 300s. It's like, y'all like the Chrysler 300s because they look like a Phantom. He's like, that shit don't look like a Phantom next to a Phantom. That's right. That is the same concept.
00:58:27
Speaker
Yeah, no, I think you nailed it on the head where it's just like, buy what you like. I mean, cause if you like, if you can't get the Travis Scott's, then obviously you're not a sneaker head, right? No, of course not. If you wear the shit you like the way you like to wear it, then that's all it is. That's the ultimate answer. But then this is like, it just gets so convoluted and all this shit. You know what I mean? Like there's been no real definitions laid out because this isn't something that needed them.
00:58:55
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until like around now, especially with like the replica versus fake versus homage versus like custom. It's like no one really knew like customs could be art until people started really making them by hand and shit. And now we have like John Geiger, by the way, probably the first one, the misplaced checks. Like people took that as luxury when that came out. And then, you know, all these dudes followed. And now it's like, oh, you just make fakes.
00:59:22
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You know what I mean? No, it started off as like a craft. You know what I mean? Yeah, you could wear those and it'd be some fish of shit you wouldn't get herbed on. But now people don't know enough about shit. So now you're wearing some like, I don't know, custom babes does that you had like some dude on Instagram that you just met. Now you are. And I'm like, those are those are fake babes, which are a replica of an Air Force one. So now you like double fake and you're like, why didn't we go wrong here? What is happening? But it's crazy.
00:59:48
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Oh, my bad. So live on the pod, they restocked the ZX 800 Super Earths. I thought he was just getting confused by what I was saying. So I got hyped on that. But of course, they they fuck us yet again. So they are. They have three point five to ten and then it jumps to size 15. I'm like, why why why even say that? Just put a sock in there or double the sock. You'll be good.
01:00:18
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You know, I'm a nine, but you know what that really is? They probably just missed a few boxes in the original shipment and then they just got them in. And then like, all right, Dan, this just goes up to 10 and then there's that one box of 15 and 14.
01:00:31
Speaker
Bro, they going up to 19 a size 15, 16, 17, 18, 19. But y'all ain't got no 13s. Y'all could have not made the 17 to 19 and probably would have been straight had no complaints and use that fabric to make more 13s. But, you know, it's. It's what? Yeah. But.
01:00:55
Speaker
Oh, so, because I wanted to bring this full circle with the sneaker head thing. People in this group was talking about how you need one pair of Jordans in your collection in order to be a sneaker head. Oh my god. Oh my god. No way. Get out of here. You know what the other thing is though too, is if you're asking what is a sneaker head, that means you are real late to the game. Yeah, because here's the thing is like, that's so...
01:01:25
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not true, like you can have no Jordans in your collection and still have like a multi-thou wow collection. Like you could just have only Yeezys. You could have like only dunks. You could have like only forces. Like there's so many like hyped sneakers outside of Jordan brand that that's just such a wild idea. I actually was, I mean, I said it on my episode, I was the slowest to get a Jordan because I just was like, uh,
01:01:53
Speaker
You know, because that's the one thing I do hate is showing up somewhere and somebody got the same shoe as me. You want to know the easiest way to do that? Wear some hype J's. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, you know what? To bring this not full full circle, but I think as we were talking about prodigy earlier, the Supreme Tea, you guys have seen the interview of him saying that like he doesn't fuck with Jordans because everybody's wearing them.
01:02:17
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No, but that's great. Yeah, there's a great interview and project going like, no, I don't fuck with none of that. Just because like, what am I wearing and what everyone else is wearing? And I'm like, that's why he's the best, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out. Shout out to Prodigy up there. Probably spittin bars, spittin bars with guru right now. Did I tell the story about how I met Pete? I probably didn't. Why would I have told that? No, you did. You never, never stole that story. But that definitely let's hear that.
01:02:45
Speaker
I can make this quick. So, I was working at Echo, but it was, it had turned over to Slam Hype and A-Life guys were everywhere. We hired Frank the Butcher, who's an OG sneaker guy, like, I'm sure a lot of the kids who are asking what a sneaker head is do not know who Frank the Butcher is.
01:03:05
Speaker
Boston Legend worked at Concepts. I credit the Kennedy collab with New Balance to him and those guys like Dion. My mom wanted to come. I did some artwork for Frank's pop-up shop for his personal brand. It's gonna be on Newberry Street, which is, you know, for people outside of Boston, it's like the fifth half of Boston, I guess, is like where you kind of go shopping shit. So he's having a pop-up shop. I'm explaining to my mom what's happening, because she's giving me a ride because she wants to see the whole thing. She's like, I'll go with you, I'll bring you, let's go.
01:03:34
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I'm like, all right, so Prodigy's gonna be there, mom. You've heard him playin', you've heard his music, because I've been playing it. It's like that rap shit you think is too aggressive. He's in that group, MoD.
01:03:47
Speaker
Now Frank, he goes by Frank the Butcher. I think I've introduced it as Frank Rivera, but it's Frank the Butcher here, so call him Frank. But if you're gonna say anything else, say the Butcher. And there's Prodigy and there's Mob D. When we roll up, Prodigy's outside smoking a cigarette. And my mom immediately just walks right up to him. Now, granted, they're the same size, by the way. They're both like 5'4". So I have my very white Irish mother going up to Prodigy of Mob D.
01:04:16
Speaker
And she goes, hey, are you Frank from MOOP DEP? I was like, yo, mom, you need to get in the car. I can't have I'm like, I'm like, dude, I'm so sorry. And, you know, that I turn pale. I would have lost all color as well because that is. Yeah, that's so wild. Oh, man.
01:04:39
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Man, but you know just to end it up like that question was definitely the way to go out But this story was twice as bad
01:04:50
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So let everybody know where to find you. Definitely, you know, push that show because it's coming out Friday. So. So sold out Tuesday. Well, you can go listen to old episodes of podcast streetwear and lifestyle discussion if you want. All of them on YouTube. I don't know about the RSS to feed. I kind of let that go. But then I have a monthly show here in New York City at the comedy shop.
01:05:14
Speaker
It's, I'm not calling it a hypebeast show. I mean, I think probably throughout the rest of this podcast, you realize I hate all these terms that we have. Yeah. But look, if you like Haas was saying, if he, if you like raffles, if you search in for shoes that you want and the easiest way to get them, if you're on grills, especially under the, under retail, buying my Puma, this is the show. Please come. Like I want the vibe to be like,
01:05:42
Speaker
I want it to be like if you're waiting at line for something and there's entertainment, like there's stand up while you're waiting in the line. That's sort of the vibe I want, but at the last Tuesday, every month, if you ever come to New York, dude, I'd be happy to have you on. Haas, maybe once you start getting a good five, we can talk about it. I got it, I got a good time, ready to go.
01:06:00
Speaker
But yeah, so sold out Tuesdays, comedy shops, 10 bucks a pop. Always the last Tuesday at the end of the month. We got beer deals. And yeah, I mean, it's just a really good time. So that's the main thing I'm pushing right now. I'm trying to take all the podcast energy I had and put it into the show. Cause I want a good hangout spot for once a month. And that's sort of where I'm at right now, but at not that Cheney C H E N E Y on Instagram and any other social media platform.
01:06:23
Speaker
Yeah, man. And this sold out, you have to wear, if you're coming through, you have to wear your off-white dunks. This guy. This guy. I mean, that's the main thing everybody's talking about right now is these dumb off-white dunks. Yeah. And you know what? I ain't even going to be mad at you because you got me that Xbox One X right now. I mean, the Xbox Series X. If you didn't, I would have been way hot and tight about it. But you know what?
01:06:52
Speaker
You came through for me today, so shout out. Yeah, we're those fucking dunks, I guess. No, but you know what? Shout out Virgil. Yeah. Shout out to Virgil. Hey, you know what, man? As much as as many things I could say about him bad, there's too many things to say good. So he's aware he's an interesting character where like he kind of does.
01:07:13
Speaker
You know, he's the guy. He's the guy's target on his back. So, I mean, there's not many people can do what he did in the space that he's doing it in. So exactly. And that's why he's going to be a great future guest. Yeah, I'll let him know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come through. Come through. But thanks again for jumping on and for everybody out there. Wear your kicks. That's right. I can't do it. I can't do it.