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Season 6- Weekly Fantasy Corner (Champions Cup Round 2)
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It's another loaded episode of the Fantasy Corner from TFRY. On this episode of the FC we are looking back at the CYL standings for Champions Cup after 2 rounds, the movers and the top managers of note. Then we have some notes on the coming weeks of PWR Fantasy League, plus a recap of who sits where. Then it's our usual shenanigans of Start or SIt and Pick 'Em. Grab a notepad and enjoy friends!
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Transcript
Introduction and Welcome
00:00:04
Speaker
It is. The Fantasy Europeans. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody handled that. Collusion. Collusion.
Fantasy Rugby Yanks and Fancy Corner
00:00:27
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fantasy Roby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. It's fancy corner time. Let's talk the fantasies and whatnot. First up. First up. Damn it. I've seen Guardians of the Galaxy way too many times in my head. That's the tune I had in my head just now. The opening song to the first one. Great soundtrack, by the way. It is. I think I own it on vinyl.
00:00:58
Speaker
It's a good place for it. Yeah. Cause otherwise I would just have it digitally. Yeah. Um, champion champion.
Fantasy Rugby Division One and Two Updates
00:01:06
Speaker
So you recap. I know the answer to this question. So why the hell do the spoon? Division one, there was a little, there was some movement, um, not, not at the top. Duncan had another stellar week. So he got the old stuff.
00:01:28
Speaker
Uh, but yeah, Ben dropped to go fucking out of here. Yeah. I think you and a lot of people fell for that trap. Um, I dug myself off the bottom. Hooray. Thanks Jordan. For more ways than one. Yeah, right. Uh, the advice and thanks for letting me get past you. Uh, so yeah, it's Duncan, Justin. Stu.
00:01:54
Speaker
Cobus Mark, that guy, me, and George. So let's see what division two looks like. Alex had the top week. Good for him. Spoon went to Franco. Oopsie. I know your pain.
00:02:21
Speaker
Yeah. Um, yeah. So, but Abby still holds the top spot. Uh, Alex, Paul, Barty jumped, uh, Anton, Luke, and then, um, and then Franco. Sorry, dude. Sorry. Franco killed the frigging World Cup. So it's about time he does something bad and something. That's, that's true. That's true. Fricking killing everyone over here. Anywho, also, uh,
Women's Premiership Fantasy Highlights
00:02:51
Speaker
women's premiership, fantasy, da da da da. So we had the top rounds, went to Duncan, myself and Ryan. Yeah, Ryan had a good week.
00:03:07
Speaker
one, two, three, um, top players for the week were, um, to goodie shark of the day. She's a freaking points machine. Um, Casolo fairies, Rigoni, which was a kind of a surprise one in long skeleton. So that was a, that was a outside one called by, um, George and it worked out quite well. So yeah, good heads up play from George.
00:03:32
Speaker
The standings had a bit of a shake because we had a couple of brain farts, so there were some donuts thrown in there. Oopsie daisy. Yeah, not good. Nope, that's never gonna go well. You can recover from one. Two, not so good. So one, you get your freebie now, but two, I would not recommend it.
00:03:51
Speaker
Um, so right now the, the standings read as Ben one, George two, myself three and, um, we'll pack 35 eight. And our friend Joe is four and Julia rounds out the top five. Good news, Duncan. You are not lasting anymore. Now that we got it. No, no, she passed it. She passed up, uh, pass over James. Yep. But yeah, your boy's still number one and I didn't, uh, Georgia and I are kind of separating a little bit.
00:04:19
Speaker
Although you, you know, you kind of worked your way to the top of that, that second, I mean, I had, I had a couple of good ones, so it helped. Um, I wasn't overly convinced that.
00:04:35
Speaker
I had some good ones, but then, like, Dougherty just carried me the whole way, basically. She will do that. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I mean, that's, how do you think I got to where I am? I know. She's a monster. You're great. Yeah, no, she, she killed it. And like I said, she was top score. So I think the top points for a single round is still her. Yep. Week one, 56.
00:05:02
Speaker
big scores out of the Canadian. Good on here.
Fantasy Player Picks and Analysis
00:05:07
Speaker
Okay, so with that, we will announce our picks. I'll go first. All right. Since I'm ready, willing, and able. So for this week, based on... Oh, let's clarify something before we go to the... Oh yeah, yes, yes, of course. So we will not include the Harlequins and
00:05:27
Speaker
Gloucester Harpery that's kind of match is kind of purely away. Yeah. Yeah. It's like we like my idea that I had was not going to work. So we're going to not include that. So just pick from the three matches there. Hopefully we don't have any cancellations. Right. And then, yeah, we'll probably just do some sort of fun bonus week from right from that. Just from that match. Just from that game. So.
00:05:52
Speaker
Look at that. But anyway, so that's those that might want to know that I think Joe asked that so well that answers that question with that I'm gonna go For this week. I am gonna go based on the matchup and I've got two Two extra players one of them, of course though is Rachel Johnson. So I
00:06:15
Speaker
Yeah. Ride that one. Okay. And then I'm going to go Claudia McDonald as well. Okay. I haven't picked her yet. I'm going to, so for my kicker, those that are worried about like kickers and not having enough, we turn over at the halfway point. Right. You should have enough kickers too. So you got to use them all. You will. But you're going to have enough kickers to get you there. Um, so I'm going to use this week to go with Ellie Green from Ealing.
00:06:39
Speaker
All right. She's kicking. She's actually been kicking penalties. So while that's not benefiting trail finders a ton. Yeah, no, it will benefit the score line. So the other from the from this past weekend, it was like she had what, like some ridiculous points, like 15 points on her own because she kicked a bunch of pens. No, OK. Well, then I didn't do that before.
00:07:03
Speaker
Okay, so obviously we're looking for mismatches here, and not only that, but quality players involved in those mismatches. Last week I used three Siresons, although I had to come off of one because
00:07:24
Speaker
was that Rosie Galligan didn't play. And then I went with someone from... Who did I go with? Where was it? Butchers, I think. Yeah, Alicia Butchers, which was a bad choice, but my bad. Should've stuck with my... Good player, but not a good week. Ultimately, obviously, should've gone with Sarah Byrne as I tried to do the week that we called off.
00:07:47
Speaker
in that, but that was the only deviation from the three in one strategy. So I'm doing that again this week.
00:07:57
Speaker
So for the forward, it'll be someone you know, Rachel Johnson from Exeter. It'll be Claudia McDonald from Exeter. Hey, all right. And the kicker, it'll be Gabby Canturna from Exeter. Lots of red, white, and blues representing in there. Yeah. And obviously, we didn't collude on this because we're competitors. But yeah, so this isn't like one of those start of the week, sit of the weeks. We actually are
00:08:24
Speaker
Just making the same decision, the same... You copied my homework on that, let's be honest. I wrote mine down first. I already had it done. I had that before you even sent over the starts and sets. I was like, okay, I need... Because I always forget. So I'm like, no, I'm doing that first. Fair enough.
Match Analysis: Newcastle vs Bristol
00:08:42
Speaker
All right. So no, this time I'm not copying. I'm not copying your homework so much as
00:08:47
Speaker
I know what you're going to do and I'll do it as well. All right. Speaking of the start of set, let's go do that. I believe you are backing us off here with. Yep. With Newcastle hosting Bristol. Newcastle are 10th in attack and defence, which if you're unfamiliar, that's bottom of the league. So, yeah, Bristol are 4th in attack, 7th in defence. Not that that actually matters really, but really what matters here is that it's a road trip for Bristol.
00:09:19
Speaker
We haven't seen that really be too much of a problem for some teams, but it's also Bristol and they're seemingly flaky. I don't know. They don't like being away from the gate, that's for sure. Right. For Newcastle, only Brett Conon is averaging more than 10 points per game. Barf.
00:09:36
Speaker
Yeah, and he's a $10 million, so you're not going to use him. No, don't think about it, especially because it's only 10. No, that sucks from a fly half. Especially one with the boot. Callum Chick is averaging 10.2 for his last five stars, but still don't do it. It's just bad, no.
00:09:55
Speaker
For Bristol, Genge, Thacker, Lewa Tua at 4 million is a good option. I think he scored pretty well in Champions Cup. He did. And he's been hurt, so that's why he hasn't played so much. But I think he's averaged over 10 points in his two starts, too. But at 4 million, that's actually a really cheap option. Not bad. Would consider. Their 10s are also scoring fairly well still.
00:10:21
Speaker
also somewhat expensive. And then Max Manlin's is kind of a maybe. I'm still right now. Yeah, right now until until they're really like, I'm not really a fan of any of their backs at the moment. Maybe shoot the wing. Who am I forgetting? Lane? No, it was a toy toy. Duh. Maybe a between two. But at the same time, I'm like, I want to see that I want to see it before I make that investment.
00:10:50
Speaker
Yeah, in their backs their forwards. Yeah, especially for this match should be good He's definitely got the I think he's got the highest week out of anybody. Yeah a bit toy, right? Oh, he can go off but Yeah, he does this need to hurt too. So he's been a little banged up here now hasn't been too too bad though Okay, the other Friday game sale in series
Match Analysis: Sale vs Saracens
00:11:12
Speaker
We'll start with the hosts. Both teams are pretty good. Sarries are actually a little bit better in terms of defense, fantasy-wise, so keep that in mind. So for the hosts. Cowan Dickey, if he's in, I don't want him though because Sarries are very good against Hookers. Shithouse Hill is a no. In terms of the back rows that are
00:11:34
Speaker
Scoring slash highly owned my favorite are in this order DDP jail DP then curry but John Luke only if he's at In the back row if he's at locks at him quirk over war And that's and even then I'd probably I think yeah, I guess quirk is okay in this match especially frickin Davies is in
00:11:56
Speaker
to go. RDPs that go only at 10. I don't think the intercept thing's going to happen again. So don't bank on it. Yeah. Bedlow is start ish because the Saracens aren't that strong in the midfield. So start ish. So if you have them and you're kind of fucked, you might be okay. But if you can get away from them, then maybe that's better.
00:12:17
Speaker
People like him. I don't know what to tell you. He's expensive. That's why. Yeah, that's fair. For the back three players, my order of preference is Reed, O'Flaherty, Carpenter, and then Robach. And Robach being a solid sit. And then Carpenter, I'm saying start right now, but keep an eye on that because, yeah, we'll see. And then Reed and O'Flaherty are definitely starts for the series.
00:12:45
Speaker
Theo Dan or Jinx are both starts. Mauro is a start. Sequoia, if he's back, I know there's some guys working way back from injury for the series. If he's back, yes. Theo, yes, especially if he's in the back row. Tiz is a sit.
00:13:02
Speaker
My order of preference for the back growers are Earl, Christie, Willis, Gonzo, and all of them are playable, so give that a thumbs up. Willis is still out for a bit, right? I thought he was working his way back, but I could be wrong. Maybe he's one of the ones that's out until at least in a year, in which case, nevermind. Earl and Willis both will be possibly off the bench too, or at least their men's will be managed, so keep that in mind. Right.
00:13:31
Speaker
Hartley over Tomo for the midfield, and then same type of thing. Back three, my preference would be Lewington, Daly, Parton, and Good is a solid set right now. Parton's a maybe, I would prefer to have Lewington or Daly in terms of Obies. All right, off to Sandy Park. Yet again, we're Exeter, Host, Lester.
00:13:58
Speaker
Exeter, fifth in attack, ninth in defense. Lester, eighth in attack and fourth in defense. That sounds about right for both of them. Lester, though, if they can build off of what we've seen the last two weeks, they're they're a for real potential team, right? They were just in the finals. They really just won two years ago. So like they're they're not.
00:14:25
Speaker
Like they didn't just go to shit. They're actually still quite good. They've just been kind of playing like shit. Um, and sometimes all it takes is, is a click game. Um, but, and for Exeter, there's, there's also really not much in the way of scoring from this team. Fantasy wise, like frost is, is, is a decent option. Um, fizzle out. I'm getting behind as he's one 2 million and he plays every match. He's like perfect for your bench flanker position.
00:14:54
Speaker
like keep them there. That way you don't have to make any changes generally. And if you do, you can do kind of like, you know, expensive for expensive and just keep fizzle out parked right there. And because anybody drops or something like that, he'll come in to get you like 10, 15 points, maybe. Feiboso and Wyatt are definitely throw them at the wall and maybe they'll stick.
00:15:18
Speaker
slayed only with the kickering option, which doesn't exactly help much because most 10s make their bones off with the tee in this league. It kind of fucks you there.
00:15:30
Speaker
For Lester, I would look to the forwards. Exeter, once again, they're not leaky towards forwards. It's just that they, the way they attack doesn't, it allows the defenses to make a lot of easy tackles, easy tackles in that it's not much risk at a busted tackle.
00:15:50
Speaker
They might get go forward, but the guy who made contact is going to get credit for a tackle. So good for forwards on the opposition. Montoja, the Locks, yes. Visa, definitely great options. Pollard, the Kata, kind of a revenge game for him.
00:16:08
Speaker
Um, which could make things interesting. I'd love it. I'm sure. I mean, he has fun just running over everybody. So, um, I'm not that he would like rutted. It's not like rubbing in their face. It's more like, yeah, I used to play here and how I'm scoring tries against you kind of, this is fun. Yay. Let's celebrate that. I would say I can see that happening. I'm looking for him to get one or two this week. Right. Just because he's that good and they're kind of leaky there. Yep. And they should have kept him.
00:16:34
Speaker
Yeah, to your point about the forwards, the only position I believe Exeter are top four against defensively is Hooker.
Position Analysis: Exeter vs Lester
00:16:43
Speaker
The rest of them, they're all like fifth or below. Right. And some of them, they're bottom three, a lot of them are bottom three. Yeah. Again, and that's not because they're bad, it's that they just let you make tackles, a lot of them.
00:16:58
Speaker
Alright Gloucester, Northampton should be a fun one For the house, so obviously much improved Saints defense, which means there's gonna be a hell of a mixed bag here for the props Three pops of note. My favorite ones are Val JFR and Paul maine the only one I would start might be Val the other three two I'm kind of met on right now
00:17:22
Speaker
Hookers, McGuigan's, that's a no brainer. He's been on since he's gotten there. Locks, Alemano and Freddie, Alemano over Freddie right now. Which Freddie? Freddie Clark. The only Freddie. Oh, no, that's right. They have Clark's. They have Freddie Thomas too, but no, we're going with Freddie Clark here. There you go.
00:17:47
Speaker
back row, there's only two that are worth noting for, for one reason or another Mercer and Lobo Mercer. Definitely Lobo know, uh, Barton's a yes right now. Uh, Seb Atkinson's a sit highly owned, but still not worth it. Um, and I'll go with the same thing I've been doing with the back three. My order of preference for one reason or another is LRZ Morris. If he's in, I don't think you will be. And then thoroughly right now I have down as a sit because not been scoring amazingly and saints have actually been pretty good against back three.
00:18:15
Speaker
Yeah, this isn't the match for Thorly, I don't think. He's good when, I mean, he can get into space. He's not a beach with his speed anymore, but he's incredibly physical. And I don't think that's a problem for his opposition this week. No, I don't think so either.
00:18:33
Speaker
Agreed. For the Saints. Laying dinner if he's in. Yep. Go. Coles is injured. We don't know how long. He's at least out a few weeks. I was looking at the news that Dowson gave. Inconclusive as of right now. OK. Your eyes peeled on more news. But we know he's out for at least a month, I would say. So I would. Yeah.
00:18:52
Speaker
get rid of him or at least plan on not having him. I have him and Cam Henderson. Damn it. Oh, gross dude. You're boned in that position. No doubt. Back row. Many, many names of note, all of which are going to be in order here. Pearson truck. He's back. Laws, Sam Graham and Angus Scott Young. All of them are shardable. And I say that like Angus Scott Young. Huh? What?
00:19:22
Speaker
What plan are we on? But yes, startable. Alex Mitchell or Tom James is fine. Finn, yep, dings. I'm going to give a thumbs up because Gloucester's soft against the Middies. And then once again, back three order.
00:19:40
Speaker
Freeman, Ram, Furbank and Seabrook. Furbank in his games that he even without the team has scored 12, 12 and 12 and a half. So he does not need the T to score just FYI. All right, final match bath hosting quins. This one could be
00:20:02
Speaker
Excellent. Bath, our sixth in attack, third in defense. Quinn's our third in attack and eighth in defense. But this is also coming off of a kind of statement champions cup for both of these teams, although again, Quinn's kind of...
00:20:25
Speaker
But that was a hell of a team and they still threw everything they had at them. They're still in good fighting shape. Could make for just some excellent rugby going down here. The Quinn's are strongest against scrum halves and centers.
00:20:44
Speaker
So everywhere else, they're kind of middle-ish. So the front row for Bath, yes. The Locks, yes. Barbary, yes. Finn, obviously. Ollie Lawrence, I don't care about the centers because that's the non-Ollie Lawrence center is not going to score that well. Lawrence will get a little hog off all those points. So hold off on him and obviously hold off on Spencer. You might want to maybe look somewhere else. For the Quins, Bath have very few holes defensively.
00:21:14
Speaker
but you're still going to go with guys who are going to score because they might not, they might depress their scores a little bit, but you know, Dom brand is going to score. Well, whoever's at nine is going to score. Well, Marcus Smith's going to score. Well, um, Andre and I'd still go out of the back three, um, until Murley and Lina are really playing.
00:21:33
Speaker
all the time. Green to me is still the dominant factor. As long as if Nick David's out there, especially when he's at wing, there's a reason that they moved green back to fullback and David over to wing. And that's because they're like, oh no, green's the guy. We need to put him back there and let him run. And so that's the thing. He likes to catch that ball, those long balls, and then just run them. That's money in the bank for fantasy players. So that's to me what tilts that in his favor.
00:22:04
Speaker
green has started eight games. He's had one match under under 10 or under under five. Excuse me, but I think that it was so pretty good. So that's still not bad. Yeah. Um, Marley's probably hurt. Yeah. Just remember that. Right. In his first 50 and that they only, um, the only time he's been under five
00:22:25
Speaker
was against the, it was that first round one against Gloucester when Nick David kind of stole the show from 15 and then kind of pooped the bed ever since. So since then you've seen Darren Green's numbers just go up and up and up and yeah. There you go. There it is. Cool. Of the weeks. Of the weeks. Um, so I have not picked this guy yet, even though
00:22:49
Speaker
I love him and he's probably the best scorer at his position. If he's not, he's one of them and he's got a nice friendly matchup. So low hanging fruit. My start of the week's going to be Harry Thacker. All right. Nicely. Nicely picked. Um, my start of the week has also a tasty matchup and, um, himself as a tasty snack, Ali slide home. Uh, yes. Who is likely because didn't, did Hendy.
00:23:15
Speaker
And he's out. Yeah. For sure. He did not look great. No. And so there you go. Yeah. I think Slight Home's basically slated to start at this point. And him running off of Freeman, or him running with Freeman, yeah, they're going to do some fucking damage against Gloucester. Probably Freeman at 13, and then some combination of Ram. Slight Home for a bank. Ram got hurt, so maybe not Ram. Right. For a bank, Seabrook and Slate. So I think it depends on if Ram's healthy.
00:23:45
Speaker
We'll see. Any who, so my sit, I said, I'm sadly, I'm giving him this moniker as well because I love the guy, but it's just not going to be a fun matchup for the fella. I said the week's going to be Freddie Clark from Gloucester.
00:24:01
Speaker
My, um, my city of the week is the same match, uh, same team. So, um, and, and it's, uh, Sinti Carreras who can't seem to find points with, with Gloucester and, you know, maybe put him back at 15 and that could help. But maybe it'd be nice. I don't know. We'll see.
00:24:21
Speaker
Yeah, gives us on the, is definitely on the hot seat. I know they did okay in the challenge cup, but that's not what really matters to the team right now, that's for sure. You know, and as you said, Mercer coming back, that's a game changer. That is. So we'll see. That helps. Cause they were looking good and they were actually, Gloucester were not looking bad until Saracen's knocked out.
00:24:41
Speaker
Mercer and ever since then the bottoms just dropped out. So maybe, maybe this helps everybody. We'll say hope. Right. Pick them. Newcastle. This one's actually tough. It is. But I'm going with Bristol. Same. I just don't trust Newcastle. No, I don't either. Sales Saracens.
00:25:06
Speaker
I'm going with my heart over my head in clear opposition to my head. Yeah. Yeah. My brain's not saying anything good about the situation. So I'm going to go with, I'm going to pick sale and be happy to be wrong if I'm wrong. Cool. I'll be, I'll be fine. Perfectly fine. Picking up a game on you if that's the case. Uh, exit to Lester. Exeter. Unfortunately. I like, I like what I'm seeing from Lester.
00:25:36
Speaker
Exeter at home that there's something about it and I don't know that Lester can play the way that they need to You know if they can play that way that that monster was playing then stop playing that's not that's not really Lester's game it seems like this is just fit for
00:25:54
Speaker
Just their style played right into Exeter's hands is what I'm saying. Unless they change something. I will say that Lester had some rested body, so that's why I'm going to go with Tigers. And that's fair, yeah. I don't like, again, this one I'm going, this one is, I don't know, it's not head over heart exactly, because I, well, obviously I'd prefer Lester to win that one. Yep. Also, I, yeah. Gloucester, Ireland, Hampton. Saints.
00:26:25
Speaker
Bath Quinn's bath. Same idea. They're legit. They're at home. That's that's right. I like Harlequins, but I do. I think they're legit and on the road for is going to come from some combination of the current top five.
Potential Top Four Teams Discussion
00:26:44
Speaker
And I don't I just don't know where it is. Yeah. Lester could sneak in there, but I just don't know if they're going to be able to hang.
00:26:52
Speaker
Um, and that sort of been found out. So they'll, they'll, they'll stumble here, there and everywhere to get themselves out of the top. Okay.
Closing Statements and Holiday Wishes
00:27:02
Speaker
Fun. Cool. Cool. So that's that. So that was that. Um, yeah, we are going to be back with, um, year end and Festivus next week. Couldn't fit in this week, but, um, until then.
00:27:21
Speaker
Enjoy your holiday everyone. Thank you for listening to us. We'll catch you guys next week. Have a good one. Later. Cheers.
00:27:40
Speaker
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