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Special Edition: Royal Rumble 1989 Watchalong
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Foley Fam, we ran into some technical difficulties recording this week's episode. Your regularly scheduled Chick Foley Show will drop sometime this weekend. In the meantime, we are releasing this Patreon-exclusive episode for FREE to hold you over. Enjoy!
Sheena, Seth, Marco, and special guest Jordan watch the 1989 Royal Rumble! We take a trip down memory lane, talk figures, and reminisce on some of our favorite moments from the various casts of characters in this 30 man, over the top rope extravaganza!
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Transcript
Introduction and Setup
00:00:13
Speaker
Welcome to the Royal Rumble edition of the chick Foley show. That's right folks. We're back with another one You guys heard us do the 1988 Royal Rumble the first one last month
00:00:27
Speaker
This month, we're back with Royal Rumble 1989. We're probably gonna start trying to crank these things out every two or three weeks at a time. Remember, this is our Patreon exclusive series that we started up in honor of the late, great Pat Patterson. So something a little bit different tonight on the Chick Foley show. It's the boys' night. So we got your normal co-host, Marco up in Massachusetts. Marco, how you doing? I am doing swell on this fine night.
00:00:50
Speaker
And then Sheena's taking the night off tonight. If you guys don't know, once a week I have to work nights and Sheena gets stuck here with both kids by herself. And we love our kids. They're awesome, but they can be a handful when you're in a two on one, when you're in a handicap match with them. So we're giving her the night off. But we brought in the mystery tag team opponent.
Boys' Night Special with Jordan Wells
00:01:09
Speaker
We got the fig hunting God himself, straight out of Omaha, Nebraska. We got Jordan Wells on the line. Jordan, what's happening?
00:01:17
Speaker
What's up, boys? Excited for guys' night. Excited to be on the pod. Gonna be a good night.
00:01:23
Speaker
Hell yeah, so we are watching the 1989 Royal Rumble. This was the first rumble to be on pay-per-view. You know, they kind of tested it out on free TV the year before, just a way to kind of stick it to the NWA and the bunkhouse stampede. Obviously, it was a legendary event, and it's gone on to be probably the most fan favorite event of the year. We're watching Royal Rumble 1989. Before we hit the play button, what's everybody drinking tonight? Jordan, what are you sipping on?
00:01:50
Speaker
So I'm starting off with what's my all-time favorite beer, which is a set of Tampa Brewing Company. It's called Reef Donkey. Okay. It's American Pale Ale. It's just an unreal beer. Yep. Okay. Bradshaw and Farooq approved. Correct. And then I'll wash it down with a great tasting, less filling Miller Lite. Hell yeah. Marco, what are you working with?
00:02:18
Speaker
As always, the Godmother Imperial Stout made by, famously, my local brewery that's right around the corner from my house, Lord Hobo, so it's about 12% alcohol in it, so we'll see how this watch along goes. All right, now I'm sipping on our trusty Miller Lite, just like Jordan's gonna be here in a minute, so let me pop the top.
00:02:49
Speaker
OK, for those that want to join in with us on this watch along, we've all got our network queued up. We already let the ad play. We are at the one hour, twenty three minute and four second mark. If you go down to like the options below the event, you can go straight to the World Rumble and it should bring you right there. So have you have your network feed paused and
Significance of Royal Rumble 1989
00:03:07
Speaker
ready to go. What I'm going to do, guys, I'm going to count three to one play. When I hit play, hit the button on your machine, whatever you use to watch it to kick it off. So is everybody ready? Let's go.
00:03:17
Speaker
All right, let's do it. We're gonna go three, two, one, play. All right, we got the think in the center of the ring. God rest his soul. Man, this just hits different. You know what I really love about watching these old events is seeing the crowd, you know, nobody's on their cell phones. Everybody's just fully engaged, just marking out and enjoying the moment.
00:03:42
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, the 2000s, man, it's really hit everyone differently. I mean, you, you very rarely see in any wrestling event, no one on their cell phones. It's just, yeah, we, they have taken over our lives sadly, but yeah, I mean, in the eighties you were living in the moment, man, there was nothing else to do. The nineties were still living in the moment, but one thing that was starting to kind of creep in the nineties was the signs, you know, you had a few signs in the eighties, but it was nothing like the attitude era where it was just a sea of posters.
00:04:12
Speaker
Like when you get those wide crowd shots, you can really see everybody just sitting down and chilling out and enjoying the show. Look at these people. I'd love them to bring back into our retro rumble one year too. You know, nothing's ever been as good as that purple and gold logo that they had from the first five or six years of the rumble either. So here we go. Demolition Axe coming out first. Who do you guys think did the best Axe figure?
00:04:45
Speaker
The sentimental pick for me is the Hasbro's, but I really think Mattel just rocked the house on theirs. Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, no question about that. He's pretty stacked, dude. He wasn't like super in shape, but he's a big dude. Oh yeah, he's just a pretty shit house, man. Yeah. Yeah, dude, the Hasbro's an all-timer, but those Legends figures are unreal. Yeah, they really are. Mattel did a good job with them, too, in the classic superstars. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely.
00:05:14
Speaker
And what I liked about these guys too, like back then, like they look like, obviously they, they're all probably like in their twenties, early thirties, but they all look like they were like their forties of fifties. But the other, the other thing too was like, they're like, they look like you didn't want to mess with any one of those dudes. Like, Oh, hell no. You don't want to see, see any of those guys get mad at you at the bar.
00:05:36
Speaker
So this was, you guys remember the first rumble? I think they were still trying to figure out exactly what they had. They played it out a lot like a normal Battle Royale. I think this year, they really wanted to hammer in that it's friend versus friend, foe versus foe, which is why we got Demolition going one on one to start off.
Key Matches and Figures Discussed
00:05:55
Speaker
We got Demolition smashing here. One of the missing pieces in the Mattel line, I still think we need a repo man. What do you guys think? Would you guys be down for a repo man elite?
00:06:07
Speaker
100% I would I would love to have a repo man Alita. I love demolition. I love yeah repo man I mean, it's just those four has bros are probably four of my favorite has bros on yeah It's crazy that crush got three has bros out of all the superstars from the early 90s crush somehow got three freakin has bro figures Yeah, and the evil crush one is selling for like 200 bucks and
00:06:35
Speaker
I'd love to see Mattel tackle that. I've seen some pretty sweet customs. People take the Demolition Crush and turn him into Evil Crush. Oh yeah. Crush, it was crazy. That dude had really four totally different gimmicks and he used the same name. Because remember he was Demolition Crush, then he was Kona Crush, he was the Brata, and then he was the Japanese Trader Crush, and then he was just freaking Sons of Anarchy Crush.
00:07:01
Speaker
True and then you you can actually do like they could do like the WCW. Yeah, the disciple to know the disciple was uh was Brutus remember? Yeah, it was a crush came in is just a Brian Clark when he went in That's right. Oh, nope. Smash is staying in look out. Look out axe. We met these guys at WrestleMania 33. They were they were so nice Yeah, I've heard nothing about good things about people who meet them
00:07:35
Speaker
Here we go. Marker, did we have the countdown clock at the 88 rumble? I don't think we did, did we? No, there was no countdown clock. This is the debut of the countdown clock. Oh, boy, there he is. Look at that beautiful Bobby Heenan sweater. Chalk Line needs to make that also. They've done some awesome Bobby Heenan jackets, but we need to get the V-neck sweater like that also. Oh, yeah.
00:08:02
Speaker
Yeah, that's great. Uh-oh, guys. Special treat. We got another surprise entrant in the rumble. Wow. No, Andre the Giant. It is a giant. Have a break at the Testicle Festival. Oh, gee. All right. Poor Andre. Andre was almost like a comedy act at this point, wouldn't you guys say? Oh, yeah, definitely.
00:08:30
Speaker
Yeah, he definitely, uh, got to a point in his career where he was just there for laughs and he was in Oz. So, yeah, he did have this one more good moment at WrestleMania six when he finally turned on the brain. That was a good moment. But yeah, this was, this is just watching him, watching him fall over in the ring. After that first punches, it's sad to watch his whole feud with the warrior. He was in bad shape. He really is few with Jake. He was in bad shape. It really was like after wrestling, it was all he could do to put on that main event match at WrestleMania three.
00:09:03
Speaker
Yeah, this is actually the same year. Yeah, 1989 was the year I actually went to go see that the Boston Garden warrior facing, well, not really facing Andre the Giant, just pretty much squashing him in 10 seconds and then leaving. Yeah, that was pretty sad to watch. We already shared our drinks. Tell the folks what you're sipping on. I'm drinking on a little Snoop Dizzle for Chisel Red. Wow.
00:09:30
Speaker
Listen, so I originally bought this, you know, just for the novelty that it had Snoop Dogg on the bottle, right? And it's actually pretty damn good. And it's funny because I was like, well, maybe it's just because like, I'm not like a super wine snob or whatever. But when I posted it, my stories the other day, a lot of people hit me up, they're like, dude, this wine is actually really good. It's the part of the 19 crimes line. So if you haven't tried the Snoop Dogg wine, get on that.
00:09:54
Speaker
So there we saw Mr. Perfect in trunks. I honestly had forgotten about this. I know that was his gear he wrestled in the AWA when he was a big star there. Did you guys ever remember Perfect being in just trunks in his WWF days? I don't remember it. I'd like to say I do, but I definitely remember. You don't have to remember it. It's right here before our eyes.
00:10:16
Speaker
I couldn't have forgotten about that. That could be another deep cut for Mattel on one of these Royal Rumble series one year. Mr. P, you need those boots, Seth. Mr. P. Mr. P. And there goes Smash, first man out. I really do not remember much at all about this Rumble. It's been about five years since I've watched this one. Do you remember who wins it? Yeah, I remember who wins. And I think I remember how Hulk Hogan gets eliminated. Spoiler alert. And that's about it.
00:10:46
Speaker
But yeah, this is crazy seeing perfect out here in just the trunk. You know, he was just so known for being in the singlet. He had to have been just at this point. The first time I saw a picture of him in just trunks, I was like, that cannot be the same guy because he doesn't even look the same in trunks to me. It looks a lot smaller here, I think.
00:11:07
Speaker
Yeah, I'm definitely a proponent of pants. I think if, if I was going to be a wrestler pants would be the way to go. I love you a main eventer, man. Yeah. I think, I mean, there's nothing wrong with just the trunks, um, or just the singlet, but I feel like pants just really just kind of like set you off, dude. I really love the Brit heart. No, no surprise there. I love the Brit heart pants over the singlet. I just feel like that's just like a championship look.
00:11:29
Speaker
Look at, uh, look at how much more of a man of inner, uh, hangman page looks like with the pants instead of just the trunks. Hangman page just drips swag though. I mean, he's just everywhere. Yeah. Everything he does is just, all right, here we go. He, uh, he also drips alcohol too. So why are you got your judge pants on? Oh God, Ronnie Garvin. That's really going to set the world on fire. Also, what's your favorite Ronnie Garvin match?
00:11:57
Speaker
Let's see here. So this is the last one that I remember because I'm watching. Yeah, I'm going to say the 1989 Royal Rumble man faces that dude going to be pretty hard pressed to remember a Ronnie Garvin match. He did have his brief run with the NWA championship there in the eighties when they thought he was going to be a huge baby face. But he's just Ronnie Garvin to me is just like generic eighties wrestler number three, like in the movie credits. Yeah.
00:12:26
Speaker
I love, one of my favorite things, this is such a random statement, but one of my favorite things about the late 80s, early 90s is monogram boots. I just feel like monogram boots are super swag. Just like the initial, it's like Laverne and Shirley, you know what I mean? Like just like, everybody's gonna have your, yeah, your initials on the boots. I think that was like, you know, I think when you made it, you got your own custom boots. You know, I think like the Paul Orndorff ones, Ric Flair had them for, you know, Ric Flair made them for the first. Yeah, he had, he always had his boots.
00:12:57
Speaker
Maybe it's to keep people from stealing your boots too, you know what I mean? On the road. Yeah, possibly. Look at that, we got- Your haircut also had to be terrible in the 80s too. I mean, that was just everybody across the board. That wasn't wrestling specific.
00:13:13
Speaker
but you definitely saw a lot more. Listen, the mullet is, you know what? One thing I never thought I would see a resurgence of in my lifetime is the mullet. And dude, it is back with a vengeance right now. Like some of the hottest acts on the, in the game have mullets. I mean, you got freaking Jay Uso, you got Morgan Wallin, like, you know, mullets are, mullets are back, dude. All right, here we go. Five, four, three, two, one.
00:13:45
Speaker
There you go. This one guy in the cowboy hat holding the foam two by four is getting so hype every time. So here we come with the hammer. That's another guy who's really going to set the world on fire. You know, he's like the upgraded version of Ronnie Garvin, I think.
00:14:00
Speaker
I will restate my idea that we need, as crazy as this sounds, we need an ultimate Jimmy Hart figure. It could be just the base figure and then just give me four sets of interchangeable arms and jackets for all the different acts that he managed. Agree. Dude had so much awesome gear.
00:14:19
Speaker
I'm going to be pretty upset with the Ultimate Edition line if they just keep running back the same five wrestlers. Yeah. Only thing I can think is maybe because they're so expensive, they want to make sure that it's people that sell. My criticism, especially with the fan central stuff, it seems like there goes Ronnie Garvin. Sorry, buddy. My problem is that with the fan central stuff, like it seems like they always pick three super similar options, you know? Yeah.
00:14:42
Speaker
Like they never really give us any, I feel like we're never really getting any choice. It's like they know like they got the figure like 80% done. They're like, all right, we can do these couple of things. Yeah, it's like they go to their little paint catalog and they're like, okay, we got extra yellow paint. We got extra red paint. So let's pull all the yellow and red options that we have, you know? All right, we're in classic battle royal mode now. The guys are struggling against their ropes for 20 minutes.
00:15:10
Speaker
My network is on fire right now. We get to think their, uh, their cardio, their cardio probably isn't the best. So they have to do a lot of those spots during these matches. That's true. Yeah. That's dehydrated. Andre's probably had 12 packs before he freaking got to Gorilla dude.
00:15:32
Speaker
Well, if I'm the HBO documentary, say you drink two in one minute. That's true. That's true. This dude's a dirty 30. There we go. Now that's a pop, dude. That's your first taste like the world one pop. Look at the crowd in a frenzy. Yeah, I guess this is when Jake and Audrey's feud had already started up. Yeah.
00:15:57
Speaker
Did you like it? Did you like him tumble into the ring? He kind of like tripped. He almost hit the tightest
Dark Side of the Ring and Surprises
00:16:01
Speaker
one. He was trying to be super smooth. At least he didn't tear both his quads all of Vince McMahon. Here comes the hammer. True. Did you guys see that Jake and his family are going to be one of the episodes of Dark Side of the Ring this season? Oh, really? That should be bad. That should be super dark. I wonder if they'll have DDP come on and talk. Oh, yeah. I'm sure DDP will be on there.
00:16:26
Speaker
Dude, the dark side of the ring is just, I look forward to those every time. Oh yeah, even some of the stories that I've known inside out, they do such a good job on those, man. Yeah, I like the little, even the little campy vignettes. I think they really add a lot to the show. That one on the UWF was awesome. I didn't really know anything about the UWF. That one was really good. I love the one on the Von Erics. The Von Erics was really good. I'm kind of sad. They're doing Brian Pillman next season too. Yeah, that's the season premiere.
00:16:53
Speaker
There's a lot of eclectic episodes. It's not like a lot of stuff that you'd know. They had to get you hooked in with those familiar stories in the first couple of seasons, you know, and then now, now they're doing the deep cuts. Yeah. Thank God no warrior won. That was fair enough to both of us. I'm sure it's coming at some point. Yeah. That episode. It's got to, dude. There's definitely dark side to warrior as much as you don't want to admit it.
00:17:25
Speaker
China I thought China would be a good one. I I said that I I cannot I mean I can't imagine that they're not gonna tackle that I think Documentary in the works about China right now. Also, I think that's why they said they're holding off. Hmm. All right, who we got next Mmm Ron bass. Okay, Jordan, which rots on favorite outlaw Ron bass match. I
00:17:52
Speaker
He was on a low lights and we're on weighty. Yeah. Hey, there goes Jake just like that, man. Jake, Jake must have been hurt and going into the show and they knew he didn't have too much time. And I can't believe Jake's already gone that quick to Mr. Perfect's the smallest dude. They're like every every dude that's been in that rig. Ain't no cruiserweights in this match. I'm really like the killer bees like the smallest guys and they weren't even that small.
00:18:25
Speaker
This is a time when men were men. These are people's like dads and uncles, you know? That's one thing about this era is like, you know, these guys, you could, you could show up to a mechanic shop and you wouldn't blink an eye seeing one of these guys, you know? Wouldn't be like walking in and seeing Andrade in there. Yeah. Wouldn't even know. Not many lookers in this era.
00:18:54
Speaker
Not at all. What are you talking about? You're telling me you wouldn't ask Ron Bass for an autograph? I probably wouldn't. You know me, I get super celebrity shy.
00:19:06
Speaker
Yeah, we know. We could have met Wale. Why don't you guys take a picture of Wale? Jordan's putting his first hand. We were at Marco at WrestleMania 31, so Jordan and his wife Ari, we went to WrestleMania 31 with them. And it just so happened that as we pulled up to go to Access, you know the rapper Wale, his freaking tour bus pulls up on the curb. I'm a huge Wale fan, dude. We were living in
00:19:32
Speaker
No, we were already in Hawaii at that time, but we lived in the DC area. You know, Wale was huge up there. That's where he's from. And his tour bus just happened to pull up curbside as we're walking in. And I'm like, holy crap, you're about to meet Wale. It's like one of my low-key favorite rappers. Oh, crap, real quick. I have to interject. Speaking of lookers, here comes H.B. Kizzle.
00:19:52
Speaker
Not yet, he's not HPK yet. He's shot at the Michaels a third in this match. He's not HPK. Yeah, Wally's tour bus pulls up and Sheena acts like she can't hear us. We're yelling at her to hold on so we can get a picture and she just takes off and goes running inside.
00:20:10
Speaker
No, she did on purpose. She definitely did that. She just, she just, she was like, nah. She's like, I know who they want to take a picture with. Can I be honest and tell you what it was? There was, there was these access exclusive Bella twin pops that I really wanted. And I was afraid they were going to sell out. So I was going really fast. And then they, that was bull crap. These are wise.
00:20:39
Speaker
Cause then we took pictures with him that took all of about two minutes. You're like, why didn't you guys ask him for? Yeah. And he was super, he was super cool, man. He could have been friendly. He complimented me on my gold foam posits. It was awesome. I know. And I was wearing, I was wearing pink foam. So I would have had a conversation. It was the guy that brought back the phone.
00:20:57
Speaker
I can't help it, you guys. I do. I get, you know, you remember April Buchanan from Eastbound and Down?
Celebrity Encounters and Wrestling Shows
00:21:02
Speaker
I once saw her eating lunch at the Grove and I was like, she's like, at this point, this was the first season of Eastbound and Down. She is like a D list celebrity at this point. And I was too shy to go up and get a picture with her and like say something to her. I was like taking pictures around a pole, like, you know, like sneaking around.
00:21:19
Speaker
I don't know what it is. I get super, super shy. If you can believe it. I would. I'd love to get some more rockers elites if they would bring Marty back. But obviously I don't see Marty's neti being back on a figure deal anytime soon. And it'd be those. I got lucky. Whatever that last Shawn Michaels retro fest rocker came out, somebody hooked me up with a Marty Gennady head sculpt for free. But those things are pretty expensive to come by because those rockers figures are getting harder and harder to get. Here's another Hall of Famer.
00:21:49
Speaker
Is this Luke or... I think that's Luke, right? This is Bushwacker Butch. Oh, that's Butch, okay. One of the saddest things I've ever seen. I wouldn't say it was one of the saddest things I've ever seen. Oh, shit, Jake is back. I'm gonna hold that thought. Here it comes. Oh, it's Damian in the ring. Damian's in the ring. Look out, Andre. Look out, Andre. Look at Andre bailing over the top rope. That's the fastest he's moved in three years.
00:22:16
Speaker
It's a high fire look at the crowd everybody's on their feet Andre had that thing where anybody that feuded with Jake suddenly just had a huge phobia of snakes Just always worked out. It's just like it's just like how undertaker anybody that fuses undertaker has a fear of coffins, you know
00:22:34
Speaker
But I was going to say one of the saddest wrestling related things I've seen. This was probably like eight years ago. As far as back even in the wrestling hardcore, I was home in Kentucky visiting family and I stopped at a gas station to get in a case of beer, just grabbing a snack or something. And there were some flyers by the register and Bushwacker Butch was going to be wrestling at Cousin Don's Furniture Store like that weekend. And our hometown is like a speck on the map.
00:23:00
Speaker
Maybe less than 3,000 people there and cousin Don's is like the big furniture store there And so yeah in the town of 3,000 people bushwhacker butch was gonna be fighting, you know Some some hillbilly hometown wrestler in cousin Don's that was like the main event and I was just like god man like
00:23:15
Speaker
How bleak does it got to be that he's still going out and doing these shows for the love of the game, dude? I don't think he's going to, you know, put some chingo in his pocket. I think he's just I think free repossessed furniture or something. Yeah, I just I think wrestlers are just they just have a certain DNA, dude. They just can't give it up.
00:23:34
Speaker
We saw Ari's first wrestling show was at a high school gymnasium in Carter Lake, Iowa. It's a complete crap town. I mean, all due respect to anyone who lives in Carter Lake, Iowa, but it's like a 500 person town and.
00:23:52
Speaker
Uh, Coco beware and Brutus, the barber beefcake. We're both wrestling at the show. The ring like breaks on my God, but they just kept the show going. Beaver comes out and is like, uh, fed up tights and everything. And they're like ripping as he's wrestling. I'm like, Oh my God. This is the cocoa have Frankie there. Uh, yeah, he had Frankie. We got a picture with him and Frankie. And then, uh, the first bump he took, he got hurt.
00:24:23
Speaker
But he tried to play it off like he wasn't hurt. He was wrestling this huge dude and he tried to pick him up and just fell out of the ring. I'm like, man, this is embarrassing. You know, you never, you just didn't think when you were watching these guys as kids that like you would just, you would stumble across them in a high school gym somewhere eventually.
00:24:44
Speaker
Yeah. Speaking of, uh, speaking of first wrestling shows ever, first wrestling show I ever went to is in Memphis, Tennessee. I was five years old and a honky tonk man was the main event. The main event was, uh, the heart foundation versus, uh, rhythm and blues. So I had both the guys in there now, you know, Greg Valentine and honky tonk man. They may have been at the first ever wrestling show I went to. And honky tonk man has entered the rumble, just FYI. We didn't touch on that. He he's in there and him and a Valentine trying to eliminate. Well, we queued it up for everybody that was watching, that's watching along with us at home.
00:25:14
Speaker
We'll still, what if they're not watching along with, they're just listening along. No, we'll be watching along guys. We're currently at like an hour and 28. This is not one of my Carter, like Iowa rant. No, I love your rants. Perfect. You're really going at it for some heal versus heal action here. Yeah. Here we go. Who we got next. I like the wild thing. Tights.
00:25:42
Speaker
Yeah, this is a nice gear for honky tonk, man. Cheeto. El Matador. Biggest peg warmer of all time. I still wish we could get... Does anybody know why we have not got another Rick Martell figure since the Legends? I would love to get a matching Rick Martell Strike Force figure. Yeah, that is weird that we haven't gotten that.
00:26:03
Speaker
I haven't heard of him having any bad blood with WWE. He does lay very low for all the X superstars. You never really see anything out of Rick Martell.
00:26:23
Speaker
doesn't want to have anything to do with wrestling anymore. Not in a bad way, just like he did it. Yeah, he's done with it. He's moved on a little bit. He doesn't want to be a 70-year-old in a furniture store. I would love to see it. If one of our customizers is listening to this, I'd be down to drop a little coin for a Strike Force Rick Martell.
Collector's Excitement and Storylines
00:26:46
Speaker
I love to see him come back as like a manager or something like manage like a young like like a hot Friday or That's right, Tyler Reese wrestled the first ever Y wrestling Matt Sheena saw him and Hideo Itami at uh, the untakeover in San Jose That was awesome
00:27:14
Speaker
All right, if you guys could get an elite made of anybody in the ring in their attire, who would you guys go with? I think I'd go with perfect in the trunks, man. Yeah, that's not a bad answer. What about you, Jordan? Who are you going with? I mean, there's not a whole lot of big winners in here, so. Slim Pickens for big guys. Honky tonk. Let's go honky tonk. Yeah, I think I was going to go with honky tonk.
00:27:41
Speaker
I might take an outlaw Ron Bass with all the accessories. That could be kind of cool, just because it's a new character. Yeah. I would take this guy. If we could re-pick, I'm going Bad News Brown. Bad News Brown, he's got to come with the box with the sewer rats in there. Remember when he was working that gimmick? That's right. That wasn't great. Did you do a Bad News 2 pack with him? Yeah, you gave him and Roddy Piper, and you can get Piper with the, where he painted half his body black.
00:28:33
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
00:28:38
Speaker
And he talked about how great his performance was on the run. Ramon, it was the best performance. Speaking of a greatest intercontinental champion, you see the hammer and Tito going at it. You know, that was one of the early, like really hot feuds for the IC title back around WrestleMania one. Yeah. The hammer's really rocking the karen cut though, isn't he? It's like... He still is almost the exact same. I remember Valentine has looked the same my entire life. Yeah.
00:29:08
Speaker
He's like, when he was like, when he was 30, he looked 55 and now he's 70. He still looks 55. Yeah. He's definitely serving meatloaf sandwiches somewhere. Oh yeah. He's throwing a hair net, man. He's G2G. Sloppy Joe. Sloppy Joe.
00:29:32
Speaker
Greg Valentine's not putting a hair net over that hair. You guys think Greg Valentine wears a COVID mask? No. I bet he has not touched a COVID mask. If he does, he wears it wrong. Yeah, he wears it on his chin. Oh, crap. Murderous Marty. Yeah, Murderous Marty.
00:29:51
Speaker
What's going on? Oh, there goes there goes Jailbird. Janetti. These guys were so freaking made. Like to me, like as much love as Rock and Roll Express always gets, I always thought they were overrated. I thought they were like the Bush League version of the Rockers, dude. These guys. The Rockers are made. So ahead of their time. Yeah.
00:30:16
Speaker
We used to give one of my best friend's sisters so much crap, because she loves Shawn Michaels and we're like, Marty carried the rockers. Marty was good, dude. Marty was good, man. I love Marty. He just committed his shit together, dude. Marty was awesome. There we go. Double drop. I don't love him anymore. He still don't have it together. This may or may not be the last time Ron Bass ever gets mentioned on the Chick Foley show. So thoughts and prayers. Thanks for the memories, man. I don't believe he was in the 1990 Voral Rumble, and I cannot see another circumstance where we bring him up. We'll find out in a couple weeks.
00:30:48
Speaker
It might not be the last time Ron Baskets mentioned, you just said you wanted his figure. Yeah, true. I mean, and eventually, you know, not, I don't know. I don't know where I was going with that thought. Okay. Sounds about right.
00:31:07
Speaker
Well, I was going to say something about him dying, but I realized he was already dead. So I was going to say, well, eventually he's going to die. So we're going to have to mention him, but then I realized, well, he's already, I know he died. Um, 2017 at the age of 68. Um, so thoughts and prayers and RIP Ron Bass.
00:31:31
Speaker
Well done. Well done, Shane. Everybody have a drink. Turn your drink up for rhombus. Who we got now? Oh, yeah. Look at that, dude. There you go. You see the crowd coming alive. Yeah. And remember, this is the world champion right now. This is the top dog.
00:32:00
Speaker
Should have brought the belt out with him, but still pretty cool. Look at that gear, man. Just freaking awesome. We need that macho also. I mean, I know Mattel does a good job of cranking out the macho man figures, but give me more. I'll take him in every freaking color. Yeah. Yeah, dude, macho man and ultimate warrior figs, like they're never going to be the same in trunks with the purple, the purple logo. That's that's sick.
00:32:31
Speaker
I love that they made the Ultimate Maniacs of the Warriors. Obviously that Elizabeth that just came out was for like the Mega Powers but you can pair them up with the Ultimate Maniacs for now until they decide to do like an actual Macho Man.
00:32:51
Speaker
Mega powers or actually I'll get mega powers. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely want some mega power speakers. It'd be awesome Where do you got lives and really you can use the defining moments Hogan for one. You just need macho man now
00:33:03
Speaker
Yeah, we have much historical context on it right now macho man is 10 months into what would end up being a one-year-long reign with the with the world championship He wanted it the the big tournament at rust many more and I can't really remember it have the mega powers already exploded at this point No, this is this plant some seeds because uh, I think uh
00:33:40
Speaker
Those anymore details match. But yeah, I wasn't really sure because I saw the girl. We got to stand out for watching this. The crowd was popping big time. But much when I was one of those guys, even as a heel, he always got a big, a big reaction. This has got to be one of our last couple of appearances in a WWE two on pay-per-view. Anyways, I think they I think him and totally were gone at Survivor Series. Oh, sweet chin music.
00:33:44
Speaker
Yeah, Hogan eliminates spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler
00:34:06
Speaker
Sweet chin music. If you would have hit me with a true or false this morning on, if Arne Anderson ever got sweet chin music from HBK, I would not have been able to answer it. There we see it. At this point, it's just a regular old move. Little did we know that would end up being one of the most legendary moves in wrestling. Yep. Oh, Macho Man and Arne team up to throw out HBK. Now Marty wants to know. What are you talking about? Sweet chin music's a regular move now. Everybody's got to see it. Yeah. True. HBK just hits different, though. Yeah. It does.
00:34:37
Speaker
It just kicks different. Wow. It just kicks different. I always have this weird random thought when I see Arne Anderson. When I get old, I wouldn't mind having that physique. Yeah. Arne is deaf, dude. Yeah. He's built like a brick shit house. He's another one of those guys, dude. He still looks like this. You could freaking Photoshop Arne from AEW Dynamite last week into this match, and you'd look the same. He's looked the same as long as I've been watching the rest of the days.
00:35:03
Speaker
Yeah, pretty much. Your hair may be a little bit thinner now, but I mean, yeah, Arne Anderson's looked the same my entire life. That is the best analogy. When he was 33, he looked 55, and when he was 17, he looked 55. When he was 70, he looked 55, yeah. Hair is actually 21, so that's crazy. Wait, what? Art is not 21. Oh, I was like, wait a minute. I know I've had a lot of wine, but that is not a 21-year-old. Yeah, Arne Anderson's been 48 years old my entire life somehow.
00:35:32
Speaker
This is quite the lineup we got in here, man. So Marty Gennady, you know, he should be a Hall of Famer if it wasn't for all his, you know, out of the ring demons. We got Orange, Bushwacker's a Hall of Famer, Tito's a Hall of Famer, Perfect's a Hall of Famer, and Macho Man. So yeah, the only one's Bad News Brown, Ariel's Tully Snow, we got both Brain Busters in the ring.
00:35:51
Speaker
Are you saying you don't think, uh, Marty Jeanette is going to get in the Hall of Fame? No, he's too problematic. Posthumously. Maybe after he goes to the big squared circle in the sky, like we saw with, uh, with dynamite kid, but, uh, I was joking. His Facebook posts are enough to get him out of the Hall of Fame. I don't know. Donald Trump's in the Hall of Fame. I mean, he'll definitely make the FBI's most wanted. That's basically the same thing.
00:36:19
Speaker
I'm still waiting for Mattel to give us the Donald Trump elite. We need it. It's much needed. No, that is not going to happen in any world whatsoever. Ultimate defining moment edition Donald Trump.
00:36:34
Speaker
You joke, but you know how fast they would sell out in the ultimate edition. I have zero doubt it would be their best-selling figure of all time. Oh my god. He's a Hall of Famer. He was in basically the semi-main event of a WrestleMania. I would say that match and that storyline probably sold more pay reviews than anything else because he was so popular.
00:36:57
Speaker
Hey, he bought raw. Oh, look at that spine buster. That's spine buster ever right there. Yeah, I don't know. I doubt we get it, but it would be kind of cool to have it in the line. There's plenty of guys out there. If you go to like the Warsman, you can get the custom head scopes. That's really all you need. And then just tell it on one of the... Yeah, it's going to be an SDCC exclusive guaranteed.
00:37:23
Speaker
If that really happens, I'm literally punching both of you that happen. That is miserable that you even... I want everybody, man. My dream is to have every single person that's ever appeared in a WWE ring in my collection, man. Look at Marty hanging on. We haven't really seen that spot too much with both feet hanging on.
00:37:45
Speaker
I was going to unleash my Donald Trump impression. There he is, brother. Speaking of problematic. Look at this crowd. They're in a frenzy. Both mega powers are in the ring now. Look, Hulk immediately goes to Macho Man's age. Yeah, we need to make a judgment here. Let's see if Hulk actually did wrong Macho Man in this rumble.
00:38:05
Speaker
Look at him. He's already got lust in his eyes. What number were we at, Shane, on our interest? He's 18. Okay, so we still got a dozen left to go. There goes the bandana. Hope said he sets a record with most eliminations in this Roar Rumble. Obviously, there's only one prior, but you know.
00:38:29
Speaker
Oh, look, look who he's trying to throw out. I'm joking. Hey, brother. Oh. It is borderline incredible that Hogan had that same hairdo for 20 years. It looks a little bit shorter than than I usually remember. Yeah, they took a little bit too much off the bottom. Yeah, he's hanging out with Brutus the barber right before he came out for this one, I think. Yeah. That's a make up look young. It's like I'm going to be out here with all these strapping young men.
00:39:01
Speaker
Those ropes look very flimsy. They don't look as like tight, right? Yeah. 400 pounders, like, you know, bouncing off the of them, it's going to be like, you know, they're going to loosen up a bit. Yeah, they do look a little bit loose. They normally has really tight ropes. I mean, Andre, Andre's already been in there, you know, freaking like a pinball machine bouncing off of every single one. True.
00:39:23
Speaker
And they had to make sure Andre could get over the top road when he fell out. That's true. That's true. All three heels teaming up on the Hulkster. Here comes bad news. Speaking of that, we didn't even get to talk about that on the show where Keith Lee like destroyed a turnbuckle using a turnbuckle. Oh, yeah. Remember that? Oh, yeah. Who we got?
00:39:48
Speaker
Oh, the other Bushwacker. That's it. It's a wrap. Bushwackers are winning this rumble. They're going to toss it at my house. And then I would love it. Does anywhere else feel robbed that we never got the the butch versus Luke? You know, Dream Feud that they never broke up. They're like the one tag team that always stay together. Yeah.
00:40:05
Speaker
Yeah, can you just imagine the promos between those two guys and the amazing technical matches we'd see if they win toe-to-toe? Oh no. Well, there you go. They would definitely be like false comedy wear matches. You cursed him. I don't know if that was Bush or Luke that went over, but one of our Bushwackers is gone. One of the sheep herders is gone. Sheep herders were pretty badass, man.
00:40:30
Speaker
I know. Did you go back and watch that? And it's like, how did they turn to this? They turned into the most like fan friendly, like cartoonish guys that were. They were brutal, dude. They were like the freaking Briscoes of the 80s. I was just about to say, they have very Brisco-ish energy. Yeah. I guess, I guess Briscoes have very Bushwacker-ish energy. Briscoes are awesome, man. Do you guys think we'll ever see the Briscoes go to AEW or WWE? I don't know. They're a little bit. They're pretty rough around the edges.
00:41:01
Speaker
They don't really impact. Impact likes to do those. They could do those types of matches and stuff there. Yeah. They don't do a whole lot of wrestling. They're more of just, uh, yeah. I would like to see them in AEW, but I don't think that's. Yeah. I mean, AEW is on prime time television. I mean, AEW gets a little bit, you know, um, edgy, but the, uh, the briskos they're like NC 17. You know what I mean? Yeah. They're hardcore. I mean, yeah.
00:41:31
Speaker
I was thought the, uh, there's like a weird stable. I always wanted was, uh, if, uh, the Bushwhackers left and went to WCW and teamed up with cactus Jack, I just had some, like, like a trio of just like psychotic, like just psychopaths killing everyone pretty much. Um, speaking of me fully, you guys see we're finally getting a mankind pop.
00:41:56
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was a, that was a reveal. There was a lot of stuff today. I'm super pumped for that. I've, I've been on the mankind pop bandwagon for like five years now. I use it. My friend, um, Sheila made one, she like made one out of like, uh, whatever font, not fondant, but like whatever you make freaking cake shit out of, um, for my 30th birthday, my 30th birthday cake. And it was a little mankind pop that she sculpted.
00:42:21
Speaker
We still, I think you nailed it. I think it is fun and is like the frosting, but there's another thing that's like gum paste or something like that, that you make like the hard, the hard stuff out of, you know, we, uh, we still need to get a cocoa lead. Also, you guys remember it back in a elite 44, he was actually up for pre-order on ringside and then he got swapped out for Sin Cara.
00:42:45
Speaker
That's how close he was to getting a release. What happened to it? He was part of the concussion lawsuit and he got dropped. I'm assuming if we went up for pre-order that there had already been prototypes made, but no pictures have ever leaked out. He's one of the big mysteries in the Mattel line is whatever happened to the Coco. Oh, man. Hulk. Coco's another good guy. You just dumped him like that. Definitely could use AI. Do you know what's happening here?
00:43:08
Speaker
Yeah, Hulk's got a bad history in the rumble remember remember I
Hogan's Tactics and Nostalgia
00:43:12
Speaker
know what's happening here He got squared by Sid and then he fucked over Sid Hulk's like the Royal Rumble asshole here No, ho ho coconuts like a net. He was like a really like a heel. Yes, if you ever go back and he did the best His moveset didn't really change when he switched from from Hulk to Hollywood man. Oh Yeah
00:43:38
Speaker
Don't need to change. Yeah, dude, he's always been a heel. He's been, he's been a heel in babyface clothing. You know what I mean?
00:43:52
Speaker
I'd love to get a powers of pain warlord figure also. Look at that both brain busters Yeah, we need the bar. We gotta have the barbarian also that we can't have a repeat of what happened with that Hogan just eliminated But which brain bust I love the LJ and warlord that was like one of my strongest push figures back, you know When I was a kid and stuff that thing is freaking awesome, but I think that oh My seriously warlord I spend a minute hyping you up. Oh
00:44:16
Speaker
Look, look, look. That's where it happened. Oh, yeah. Macho Man is... Hulk, it was down to you and Macho against Bad News. There was no need to be that reckless. He totally could have built that up and then thrown out Macho. There was no need to do the two for one special right there. Hulk is saying like, time out, time out. And look at that. Now he's slapping Santa in his face. You know, you at least be like, hey, my bad, sorry. Oh, here comes Liz. Elizabeth? Get that lust out of your eyes, Hogan.
00:44:45
Speaker
So yeah, I'm saying Hogan's the asshole. Sheena. Oh yeah. Jordan. 100%. I mean, definitely. Okay, so we're all in agreement that yeah, Macho Man was totally wronged here. Yeah, we're like three weeks out from the freaking Macho Man heel turn right here, dude. Even when the whole thing happened was Elizabeth getting knocked down. That's Macho's girl. You let Macho tend to her, Hulk. Hulk, Hulk's carrying her to the back. Yeah, I agree, man. I think if this went down nowadays,
00:45:11
Speaker
I think people would side with my show, you know, and hope would get booed. I think the whole thing just goes to show you how freaking over Hulk Hogan was as a baby face back during this time. He literally could do no wrong. You know, I mean, the fans just saw right there and cheered him no matter what.
00:45:27
Speaker
If this happened now, if a man carried Liz to the back, they would be considered like, that would be toxic masculinity. You'd be like, let, let Elizabeth walk to the back herself. She's a powerful independent woman. She doesn't need no man to carry her to the back. You lost your damn mind. Yeah. So I think, um, I think in 2020, this giving don't work. Or 2021. We're in a new year, 2021. Here comes the boss, man. Here comes the boss, man.
00:46:00
Speaker
Another guy we need slick is definitely up on the news list for for the Mattel line Slick should be we should already have a slick Jordan I know you're a little bit smarter on the Jackson me was there a classic superstar slick or is the LJ and slick so the only one we've gotten
00:46:19
Speaker
I think the LJN one's the only one. Fire up the Google machine, Sheen. Sheen has got the Google machine sitting right next to him. Look up Jack's slick. What do you mean? I'm more... You were the one who was collecting class superstars. Dude, I collected class superstars for like six months, dude. And I was already collecting elites, so what do you mean? I'm more cultured up there. True. I know you were still into wrestling there in the whole heyday of that. Tap images.
00:46:48
Speaker
I've never not been into wrestling. So yeah, it looks like the, as far as I know, unless there's one I'm missing, LJN is the only time we've gotten a slick figure. So yeah, he's much needed. Wow. Boss man still rocking the Confederate flag on his sleeve at this point. Yeah. Not a good look.
00:47:04
Speaker
That didn't let in H12 boss man. I know he was a much better worker. I kind of dig this more heavyset boss man right now. I think it actually made him more of a heel, kind of being a slightly overweight cop. He looks like Paul Blart. Yeah. And then it just made him look more heel-less when the shirt comes untucked in the front. I love this era of boss man. Oh, no way. Paul Blart.
00:47:35
Speaker
Oh, God. I mean, you can't deny it. I mean, I mean, boss, boss man is made. I'm not going to, you know, deny that, but looking back on it, you know, it is a little bit campy. Oh, snap. Oh, snap. Oh, snap. Oh, the African dream. I love a king, man. I freaking love a king. Jaso, bro.
00:48:04
Speaker
Yeah, dude, these these guys are such a such a mismatch, but somehow still awesome tag team. Yeah, I got lucky, man, I snagged the there's this flea market in California called Frank and Sons, and I was in San Diego for a time and I snagged and Akeem Legends MOC for 40 bucks. Somehow it blows my mind out because that thing's going for us nowadays. Well. What's your guys favorite boss man figure?
00:48:38
Speaker
I like the attitude error the shield boss man. That's what I call it Oh, yeah, all black with the a mask you hear these ski masks and everything I like I like the the regular Mattel, you know cop boss man, and then I'm also I'm a huge fan of the LJN I think the boss man LJN is one of the best LJNs they had yeah Jordan what about you? What's your favorite boss man figure? 100% the LJN I love that figure so much
00:49:04
Speaker
came with the nightstick and everything. That was great. I love to get a one man gang Mattel. You know, the one man gang LJN was freaking sweet. The Mattel actually had it made up as a it was going to be in the legends line and they're getting canceled. There's a beefy tag team. And there goes Hulk. I mean, that just going to show you how much they thought of those guys, let them toss out Hulk like that. Yeah.
00:49:33
Speaker
Here goes Hulk, you know, he got thrown out fair and square, but of course he's got to get his shit in afterwards. The crowd is going nuts, too. This is pandemonium. Air Brother Brutus. Hulk's man friend.
00:49:58
Speaker
The old man did a lot for him, dude. I mean, freakin' dude, think about it. Brutus Beefcake main evented Starrcade 1994. One of the, uh, one of the biggest, uh, you know, WCW's version of WrestleMania, man. And he was also the number one follower of the O.W.M. Yeah. I remember that. That's great. The disciple figure would be pretty cool. You know, you mentioned it earlier, Marco. He was, he was pretty, you know, toyetic, man. He had a wild look.
00:50:26
Speaker
We can get it. We can get a whole. There goes boss man. Another person fucked over by Hogan in the rumble. We can get a whole box set of W.C.W. Brutus. You know, you had you had the butcher when he first came in. Then he was he was the Zodiac guy or the Zodiac man. Then he was the booty man. And then and then he was, you know, the disciple. You get the disciple in W.O. version and O.W.N. version.
00:51:04
Speaker
solid Horrible man, horrible. I remember being so freaking stoked the night when warrior debuted on WCW because I was already up on the dirt sheets at that point So I knew what it was happening and I just remember being so freaking excited and it would just fell so flat he came out and cut that bizarre like 20 minute long promo and
00:51:22
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, a Phelps was up on spoilers. No way. You have Mark. I got a long history of spoiling stuff for, uh, for Jordan. I used to do that too. I figured what a website it was, I used to go to, um, like before wrong, before nitro, I tried to read all the, all the spoilers and stuff to see what was going to happen. Yeah. Cause raw used to be taped every other week. So you'd know what was going to happen every time if you wanted to.
00:51:50
Speaker
I still remember one of the dirt sheet websites. It was loads of pain. I think that might still be active. That's still around, yeah. It still looks like a Geo City site also, dude. If you guys remember the Geo City's websites, you could build yourself. All right, now we got the Red Rooster. So he's looking like he's straight Terry Taylor, because he doesn't got the red mohawk going, but he's got that double R on his trunk. So I don't know if he was kind of in between gimmicks or what right here, if he just didn't feel like getting his whole get up on. Did you guys pick up the Red Rooster Elite?
00:52:20
Speaker
Yes, that's a cool figure it is it's a really good thing All right, brother Bruta and Terry Taylor teaming up on big I came Does aware now Especially as we're coming down the homestretch, you know, it was like I feel like ten minutes ago It was like nothing but Hall of Famers in here and now we got freaking Yeah, I mean obviously Brutus is a Hall of Famer, but you know Brutus is Brutus
00:52:50
Speaker
I've never been a huge beefcake fan. Exactly. Akeem's probably my favorite of these three guys in here right now. 100%.
00:53:04
Speaker
So yeah, for those listening at home right now, we're going to start cranking these out every two to three weeks. So this is going to be a lot of fun going through the 90s and through the new genre. Some of those were rumbles get straight hoard on the just the talent level, you know, with it. You can tell they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to come up with 30 people for some of these matches. There's going to be a lot of folks that.
00:53:23
Speaker
It's literally like their only ever appearance on a WWF pay-per-view is in these rumbles. So look forward to those. We're always going to keep the same. We'll keep it fun. We'll do have a lot of figure talk as these different guys come out. Look at how keen just crushing that second rope right now.
00:53:45
Speaker
Yeah, these the rumbles are such an easy watch to go. Yeah, it's so much fun. And they're always fun. Every two minutes you get somebody new and it just sparks another bit of nostalgia. It's barbarian. So if we got a barbarian figure, do you guys want powers of pain or do you guys want when he was working like the kind of like almost like a Viking type gimmick when he had all the fur on and shit? You know the answer. You know the answer.
00:54:10
Speaker
We need Fuji also Fuji's another big well, I'd say Fuji's probably in the top like six or seven missing pieces in the the Mattel line Agreed
00:54:24
Speaker
They should like start doing those and like, like, that's a Fuji and like, uh, like slick and like the WrestleMania series where you like build. Yeah. We need two foodies though. Cause I feel like we need tuxedo Fuji with the face paint, but then dude, I still want a Yoko Zuna style Fuji also with the, uh, with the gi on, man, that would be cool too. And the bucket of salt, you know, still so you could, you know, recreate him fucking over Bret Hart at WrestleMania nine.
00:55:00
Speaker
That match still infuriates me. I think WrestleMania nine is probably my all time, like, like an event that just makes me irrationally angry when I watch it. Yeah. All right. Barbarian working on Brutus trying to get him out of here.
00:55:18
Speaker
Akeem. I know Akeem's got to be running out of gas by now. He's been there for a while. Oh, but it's his finisher. I think the only other finisher I've ever seen so far. We had HPK hit sweet chin music, which it wasn't sweet chin music yet. And then we saw Tito Santana hit the, uh, the flying burrito as Jesse Ventura used to call it. He had his flying four. He had his flying four on, uh, just even sure it was so low key race. I wouldn't even low key. I think he was high key racist on Tito Santana every time he had a match.
00:55:48
Speaker
Definitely was not lowkey at all about it. Oh boy. No spoiler alert, but that's a big entrance coming out right here. Big John Studd. Yeah, when you talk about beef.
00:56:03
Speaker
When you talk about bad beat in the rig right now, you're about to see it. He's still memorable to me because like my early like wrestling figure memories were with my uncle Josh's LJNs and he had like eight. He had like Roddy Piper, JYD, Don Morocco, Hulk Hogan, obviously because everybody had Hulk Hogan.
00:56:24
Speaker
But for whatever reason, I started being drawn to his Big John stud figure. And I just play with that thing like crazy. So I've probably seen like only a handful of Big John stud matches. But in figure in figure Feds, I probably wrestled hundreds of matches with this guy because that was just for my my formative years. He was one of the main figures I had to play with. Yeah, I was really happy when Mattel released him in that four pack a few years back with the Hienan family at Target because they really kind of perfectly created the look of the LJN figure.
00:56:53
Speaker
He's just a massive guy, dude. Yeah, big guy, dude. Huge. He's the number 27 entry, so we got three more guys after this. I think he retired shortly after this. I don't think he wrestled a long time after this event.
00:57:16
Speaker
No, he didn't. Yeah. Yeah. His last match with David is in June of this year's. So at this point, this dude's got five months left. Um, and he'd pass away, you know, a handful of years after this from cancer, sadly. Uh, but yeah, I mean, for those that don't know, big John stud was a superstar and David would be back in the early eighties. His, uh, him and Andre giant, their match was one of like the main build matches at a at WrestleMania one. This guy was just a huge heel.
00:57:52
Speaker
This is luck to he just like he just looks like a badass. There's Hercules I see him mentioned a ton on the Russell figs forums people are dying for figure him. I was never like a huge Yeah to me I could kind of go with or without if if I get a Hercules figure I wanted to come with With Paul Roma and power and glory. That's kind of like how I remember Hercules the most when they were that tag team you remember those guys I
00:58:18
Speaker
I remember they had their, their finisher, the powerplex where Hercules would do the superplex and then Paul Roman hit the big splash. I just thought that was like the coolest move ever. Yeah. Hercules does nothing for me. I remember him empowering glory. And I remember in WrestleMania six, him, you know, swinging the chain around before getting smashed by earthquake. Yeah, never a huge Hercules fan.
00:58:46
Speaker
I think it's a chain. People just want the chain accessory probably. Yeah, I think the last time we had the chain was JYD had a nice chain accessory, but yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah, it's elite. The Jackson wasn't bad either. I have the, I have both jacks. I have the red pants jacks and the, or they have WWE jacks. Those are good figs.
00:59:16
Speaker
And I have his LJN as well, only because I, like my father was like a huge JYD fan, obviously, grew, father grew up in the South. I mean, born and raised in Mississippi. So like, that was like the thing. So, uh, his favorite was, uh, JYD. JYD was over. I pretty much have all the JYD figures except for his, uh, uh, fear. He was the, uh, he was the number two baby face for a long time, aside from Hulk Hogan.
00:59:42
Speaker
Yeah, even Jim Ross said he was kind of bigger than Hogan in most parts of the country. He was up there then, obviously, in his later years when he went to WWF, he wasn't seen as much. But yeah, definitely fire up the network and watch some old Mid-South and see all that stuff.
Legacy Discussions and Controversies
01:00:02
Speaker
He was jacked out of his mind, first of all.
01:00:05
Speaker
People just pop like crazy from like anytime you showed up. All right, we got The other member of strike force Rick Martell we talked about earlier how we need this figure in our life To go with that Tito Santana that warm the pegs at Target for about five years He does he has legends figures out You have to have deep pockets with His model figure
01:00:33
Speaker
Yes, I love Rick Martell. He was one of my favorites, my low-key favorite guys back in the day. Just again. Going right after the Red Rooster. Yeah. As he should. What's that, Jordan? Akeem is still in this match. Yeah, he's working on a heart attack right now, dude. He's been in there a long time. Let me... Definitely needs Akeem's burger and a diet coke. Akeem's got to be hurting.
01:01:03
Speaker
Man, this is a we're coming up on number 30 here. It's really interesting how the booking has changed between, you know, 1989 and now because there's no way that even I'd say even, you know, five or six years after this, there's no way that they would have had the Hogan and macho man spots just going down in the middle of the rumble. And then those guys can toss out. Those guys definitely would have been in the mix. What do you guys think the
01:01:29
Speaker
The rationale was for for having those two guys for having that spot in that angle going down just in the middle of the match Probably not I mean probably just not to take away from the like the actual winner of the I would say like Let's let's finish the rumble because the finish of the room could stand on its own and be its own thing separate from that I give that Yeah, exactly and
01:01:57
Speaker
Yeah, obviously, I'm not going to do the sheet of spoiler alert thing, but just the last two people, the rig is like, kind of like unexpected, but... So here we go. We got the Medar Man and the Nut Man Virgil. Did you guys happen to catch Virgil's unfortunate cameo? Oh my gosh.
01:02:21
Speaker
Dude, I'm not convinced that was on purpose. Yeah, sometimes I wonder if Virgil's just working a gimmick now, man. The dude's just... I remember investigating at 33 at WrestleCon. It was just pitiful.
01:02:33
Speaker
Um, cause we were, so we had, uh, bought advanced tickets to meet Scott Hall and get a picture of him and stuff. And we got, we got to wrestle kind of early. We were like the second people in line to meet Scott Hall. It's a huge line, dude. It's a line going all the way across the room, uh, to meet Scott Hall and very Virgil happened to be like setting the table across from him. And you guys want to get so many people were in line to meet Virgil.
01:02:56
Speaker
Exactly, dude. It was a freaking ghost town. There was like a tumbleweed blown by and it was right. So the first person met Scott Hall when he came in. Scott Hall comes in looking like a million bucks. He's got on the outsiders tuxedo thing that he wears to some of these events. Um, and after the first guy met him, guys picture Virgil came walking over and you know, Scott Hall was friendly. There goes, there goes the red rooster. Bye-bye rooster, man.
01:03:19
Speaker
Scott Hall was polite. He kind of dapped him up and stuff, but you can just tell it was just awkward as hell because You know you got Scott Hall again, you know dripping swag looking like a million bucks rocking his red and black Outsiders, you know tuxedo jacket Virgil's in like Under Armour sweats, man He's in like some sweatshirt that was like, you know It was like faded black if you guys know if you're at a black sweatshirt that you've washed like, you know
01:03:40
Speaker
55 times how it gets that just kind of worn in color That's what he's wearing a freakin wrestle con and expecting people to you know Want to meet with them and stuff and he's said next to Scott Hall and it was just it was sad man Have you guys had any experience seeing Virgil at cons? Oh Yeah, definitely I was gonna say did he try to get you to We did not even engage I didn't make eye contact I kept a wide berth if I had to walk past this table. Yeah, I just I
01:04:08
Speaker
I didn't. How about you, Jordan? I know you're a con veteran. Have you met Virgil or had any interaction with him? So I don't think he's ever been at any of the cons I was at.
01:04:21
Speaker
I've only heard like people's experience with him and stuff. And just, I mean, even when like people have like paid to meet him, just out of a basically joke, he's just, he's not a good person. It's, I just don't think the dude is in a good place in life. I agree. Probably got a little bit of like mental illness possibly going on. Or maybe he's got knocked a little silly from, from wrestling for such a long time. He wrestled for a while before he got on was, you know, D.B. Asi's, uh,
01:04:48
Speaker
as DBS mayor. He was Soul Train Jones, I think was what his name was before he, uh, before he got on in his WWE role. I did. I still remember, man, if you go back and watch in a 91 and, and, you know, 92 after he turned on DBS, he was over, dude. He was getting some huge baby face pops whenever he finally turned on the million dollar. Oh yeah. Well, dude, just like imagine being in the NWO when he went to WCW and he was one of the only people in that fact. Yeah.
01:05:18
Speaker
Imagine being that guy. Yeah. We saw a DBS. He just dumped hurt and a Brutus. So is there a final five of the 89 world world world? Well, not quite as random as 88, but let's start there. So we got a keen million dollar man who's true blue superstar. No matter what Rick Martin strike force Rick Martell. He's not even the model yet the barbarian and then big John Stutt.
01:05:40
Speaker
Keep in mind, this was, we're still five years away from, or no, four years away from the Rumble actually really meaning anything aside from being a glorified Battle Royal. It wasn't until the 93 Rumble that they added that the winner is the number one contender at WrestleMania. And then 92, of course, was the winner. We're seeing our third finisher, bam, the flying headbutt. Shout out to Chris Benoit. And then the 92 Rumble, that was the one that was for the World Championship.
01:06:16
Speaker
Hey, when you see that move, who do you think of? Good answer. Good answer. I see for me, there goes barbarian. For me, I see bam bam. I think the, uh, the moonsault and the big man moonsault, even more so than Vader.
01:06:33
Speaker
Dude, I just can't think of Chris Benwoff or anything. Yeah, Chris Benwoff is pretty much a shithead. That's one thing that really infuriates me when I see certain fans online try to defend him and say he should be in the Hall of Fame. As a dad, I can just never really imagine doing the stuff that he did. No, there's no way he can do the Hall of Fame. He was a hell of a wrestler, but dude, you do that. There's no turning back from that, man. Oh, boy.
01:07:03
Speaker
And there goes Rick Martell. So now our final three, the African dream, Joaquin, Big John Studd, and the Moon Dogmas. This is, is Big John Studd a babyface at this point? I'm assuming he is. Okay. He had already left the Heen family at this point. Yeah. So I was about to say, it's kind of weird that we got three heels. So yeah, we had two heels. We had D.B. Asi and Joaquin going up against the newly babyface, Big John Studd.
01:07:33
Speaker
Oh, they're working him over. Oh, what could go wrong here? Oh, wow. Big John Studd didn't move. I thought for sure he was going to dodge. Akeem's work rate is way up in this match. Dave Meltzer, I could imagine Dave Meltzer just like setting his eyeballs on fire watching this right now. Low impact shoulders to the gut.
01:08:00
Speaker
He's tired. He's fucking sucking wind. Just telling our team. Hey, get him. Get him. You know, right? Be so tired right now. Kim doesn't even know where he's at right now. He's definitely run on fumes. Akim's Akim has been the match for 18 minutes right now. I don't think you could add any other three Akim matches together and they'd add up to 18 minutes.
Sheena's Return and Rumble Climax
01:08:26
Speaker
Oh yeah, he's definitely. Hey, and she is back. You guys heard, you know, she has been up 10 into the baby face last 20 minutes. She's back in time for the final two. You guys thought I was eliminated. She came back. She was hiding under the ring and now she's back. She did the Hogan move when she gets eliminated and slides back in. There we go. We're down to our final two. Big John Studd and D.B.I. said we were just cracking up and I came and had been in the ring for a total of 18 minutes for it out. And you could tell a poor guy was just running on E. Yeah, the gas light was on.
01:08:57
Speaker
You see how quickly he's walking to the back. He's got it. He's got some, uh, I'm betting he's got some ice cold Coors light waiting for him back there. Some sort of a feather hanging out. I think that might be, I don't know if that's feather or like kind of like drool or something stuck in there. It's definitely some sort of like fabric material. What are you laughing at Jordan? Definitely drool. That was a hell of a move right there. Choke slam, buckle bomb type situation.
01:09:29
Speaker
That's what Seth Rollins got that from. Big John's study is huge, because D.B. Asi's not a small guy, dude. And he's making him look like a shrimp. How much sun in do you think Big John's got in his hair right now? I don't know. He was always a blonde like that. I don't know how, I don't know what his natural color was. It's a little brassy. He always had that color. D.B. Asi's hair actually looks a little bit more blonde than usual. Yeah, he's frosted up. Yeah. He had a great head of hair, this guy.
01:09:58
Speaker
Virgil definitely gave him the frosting before the match. Wow. I know. He doesn't mess with the frosting. He just messes with the meat sauce, remember? I apologize. I feel awkward because I've seen Virgil's nuts, dude. Yeah, we discussed that while you were going. Yeah, we've all seen it. Yeah, way to catch up with the conversation. Oh, yeah. Well, I think it was actually just one. I think it was singular nut. It was a nut. It was a nut.
01:10:28
Speaker
Yeah, that's one that. Yeah, it was all you made. Yeah. Here we go. There it is. That's it. Big. Oh, Virgil's got to get the mix. Look, look at Big. He's like, seriously, he's like, I'm not selling anything you're doing in Silver Virgil. Yeah, we're getting the moon dollar man to match that in the upcoming legend series. He's going to be the chase figure.
01:10:54
Speaker
Big John's also got one of those bodies that you would aspire to as an older, you know, like, you know, you can tell he drinks beer and eats cheeseburgers, but like he could still take you. Yeah. He could lift a house if he had to. Yeah. Older. I'd love to have that body right now. Oh, he's getting worked over.
01:11:19
Speaker
You already know I'm big dude season. You guys know I'm here for big dude season 24, seven, 365. There goes Virgil too, for good measure. Nice.
Royal Rumble Reflections and Wrap-Up
01:11:31
Speaker
Awesome moment. Again, like we mentioned, this was one of big John Studs.
01:11:35
Speaker
last few appearances in, uh, in WWE. I think it was this mountain as they would say on the rewatchables. Yeah, it definitely is. I think this was a little bit of a kiss. Goodbye for big John stud effort and kind of a thank you for all the hard work over the years. So even though this definitely didn't never really went anywhere, I'm definitely, I'm glad that big John stud got this moment, you know, being the, uh, the first ever pay-per-view or a wumble winner, well-deserved, the guy's a true legend.
01:11:59
Speaker
What did you guys think of this match overall? Like I said, to me, it was good. It was definitely improvement over 88. We saw some unique matchups and stuff. You can definitely tell they put a lot more like care and thought into this match and a lot more star power in this match than they did the first, even though we didn't see Brit. You know what I mean? Right. If I had one criticism, I'd try to sprinkle in a little bit more main event level talent in that last five or six people. Jordan, what was your thoughts?
01:12:27
Speaker
Uh, it's a solid rumble. Like Sheena said, they were missing a lot of main event talent. I thought, um, you had Hogan and macho in the middle, as we said, but I mean, outside of that, you could say whatever you want about Andre, but at this point, like we said, he was kind of a, that's why they had to get him in and get him out. You know what I mean? Just like have him, have him start the show, get people excited, but he needed to get out of there ASAP.
01:12:56
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, overall, it's not a top five rumble, but it's also not the worst rumble. It's definitely a fun watch. Marco, any final thoughts on this one? Yeah, they kind of definitely threw in a Rick rooted warrior because they did nothing. You had a Harley racing haku. They could have been. You had the Hart Foundation and Hacksaw working a six man. All three of those guys could have been there. Hacksaw didn't get a chance to defend his Royal Rumble title. That's true. Yeah, I didn't think about that. Yeah.
01:13:27
Speaker
Yeah. All right. Well, that's going to wrap it up for us. Thanks for joining along. Again, we're going to try to crank these things out every every two to three weeks or so for any of the people that are on the main event here on Patreon. Let us know if you guys want to jump on with us and do one of these watch them. It's a lot of fun. It's easy to set up. And yeah, I hope you guys enjoy it. So give us some feedback. Let us know what you think. Sheena, you got any final words for the listeners before we sign off? Have a good day for shizzle.
01:13:53
Speaker
Wow. Okay, you heard it from her. Take it easy, Marx.